Good.

Bad.

And I will not buy your game.

>>378045026
No balls

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>WW2 game
>Can't play as the good guys
every single time

>>378045026
Fuck off Cuckanida

>>378045026
Oh well I'm not finna buy it anyways, a friend is game sharing me it

>>378045026
Just make a mission about a German who defects and has to help escape a concentration camp with some Jews. Idiots would gobble it up

>playing a campaign where you lose at the end

Who wants to do that?

>>378045196
This.

/thread

>>378045570
Well there was a Vietnam Call of Duty.

IS there a WW2 game where I can play as the germans in an actual campaign storyline, not just some goofy multiplayer?

>>378045570
It teaches you to cherish what you have.

>>378045026
so close to being good, oh well.

>>378045570
Just like vietnam games I guess. Besides, the levels you play as Axis would probably take place in battles the nazis actually won anyways.

>>378045708
Company of heroes

>>378045708
of course not, because itd be fucking dumb

>>378045701
What was it?

>>378045838
Black Ops

>>378045701
>>378045805
US won every major battle in Vietnam though. They only pulled their military early.

>>378045947
That was barely about Vietnam

>>378045570
it's about the journey not the destination, grasshopper

>>378045026
>Good.

one word faggot responses ending with a period like this is the ULTIMATE tell for a redditor

>>378045026
Guess this means it'll be coop only.

>>378045970
>US won every major battle in Vietnam though
Lies

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>tfw can't be a racist in my games

FUCKING SJWS RUINING THE INDUSTRY!!!!!!

>>378046010
How do you know that anon

>>378046010
>reddit spacing

>>378045026
Wow, fucking political narra-
Oh wait, World at War did this too. Stop generating fake controversy you faggot OP.

>>378045026
See, here's the thing.

I'm an Australian, and I was hyped as fuck for BF1 having an ANZAC Gallipoli campaign. The campaign itself was something of a mark of Australian pride and a mark of Australian failure. Yes it was a disastrous campaign, an absolute failure, but we suffered through it for King George. It was a major failure for the allied forces.

'Mere colonists' gave their lives hopelessly, to no avail, but they did it bravely. I felt a kind of somber pride when playing that campaign.

But once it was over, I couldn't help but think "What about the Turks?"

See, for the Turks, the Gallipoli campaign was a full on panic mode response. If the allies succeeded on that beachhead they could have had a clean, resistance free march to Istanbul, completely knocking the Turks out of the war.

I wanted to play a Turk, see through his Turkish eyes, get the perspective of that campaign I had never seen before. But sadly, the devs decided not to give me that.

It's not that I'm some edgelord who wants to play a Nazi soldier because lelkilljews, it's that I want to see the second world war through Hans and Fritz's eyes. I want to know what he was thinking at Normandy, Stalingrad and Al Alamein.

It's time for devs to harden up and give us campaigns from the losing side, let us feel what they felt. Tell their story.

Also it'd be nice if a WW2 game addressed the fucking holocaust for once.

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>"no we won't let people play as nazis in the campaign that's horrible"
>"be sure to preorder and invite your friends to play multiplayer where you can play as nazis"

I don't understand why it's still such a taboo for this to be a thing, it's more than possible to represent both sides of the conflict and still have the humanity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5dBdlZTvRY

>>378046662
Narratives anon. Narratives. Nazi's were ebil inhuman monstrosities with eugenic modifications that wanted to kill everything not blonde and blue-eyed and they nearly conquered the world and you wouldn't be alive today if America didn't beat them and save earth and shiet.
We can't let you play video games from their perspective, you might start to question these facts.

Doesn't the game have a history of switching between characters in a campaign? Seems like a big missed opportunity, could be interesting to switch between characters from the Allies and the Axis sides.

>>378046413
I like how in BF1 in the Operations game mode you get this short intro for the faction you're playing that's thematic and nice.
It feels like a nice touch for anotherwise mediocre game mode.

The Nazis were irredeemably evil, of course we're not getting a campaign glorifying those scum. Why would you think there woukd be?

>>378045570
>he didn't play Halo Reach

WHY ARE PEOPLE UPSET AT THIS

HARDLY ANY WWII GAMES YET YOU PLAY AS THE AXIS

>>378045815
Why does this game barely get posted when people start asking for an Axis campaign in a video game? Do people just want muh first person perspective?

>>378047230
Yeah, I'm picturing a set of levels where you're hopping between a Russian storming the Reichstag and a German trying to hold off this horde of vodka beasts.

Hopping between the foot soldiers two irredeemably evil regimes fighting each other to the death. Could be interesting.

>>378047330
No they were not.
They were the good guys.
The allies were the good goys.

>>378047689
Shamefully, RTS is a dead genre /v/ plebs don't care about anymore.

D D D D D DROPPED

>wanting to play as the losers
Wouldn't make sense if you could.

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IMAYGINE MY SHOCK!

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back to warthunder it is then

>>378045026
I like a game where I play as the bad guys.

Don't worry you can experience the frontline experience through the eyes of female soldiers in WWII for the low AAA game price of 70 dollars + DLC season 1 and 2 (sold separately) passes + tip. Don't forget to pre order for the limited edition hitler is bad dog tag only available through gamestop power to the players

> 2017.
> Can play as a gendersquid octoroon self-identifying nigger who wants to murder black people.

> Can't play as a white guy who's in a war on the "Wrong side" through no fault of his own.

>>378046069
Racist?
White germans killing White americans?

You're stupid.

>>378047956
Post the webm of the japanese plane knocking the wings off the other plane.

>>378047698
Keeping with CoD cliches, there would definitely be a scene where the Russian and the German meet. The Russian stabs the German right in the chest and looks him in the eyes as he slumps down.

>>378046413
>Gallipoli
I thought that was Churchills fuckup

>>378048164
Yeah, then keeping with CoD4's ending, then the German pulls out his luger and fires a few last defiant shots.

I can actually see it frame by frame infront of my eyes right now.

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>>378048085
Yeah, that's all the Germans were doing... killing Americans.

Wait, wait, shut the fuck up.

They are making WW2 games again? We're really going through this same thing again?

Sweet mother of mercy, why. This was easily the most boring, uninspired period for shooters and looking back at it, the best thing you could say is that it's gone. But sure, let's go again. Let's add butch lesbians into the mix as well, because it's 2017 people.

>>378048397
Yeah, Churchill commanded it, but it was ANZAC soldiers fighting. British reinforcements were meant to arrive but decided against the attack too late for the runners to reach the Australians and tell them not to attack.

>>378047956
I started to play world of warships as the germans, really addictive

They never did. Don't treat this as some kind of controversial news.

>>378048460

Because nostalgia.

If they're going to return to WW2 they might as well explore different themes in it, like a German campaign or Japanese campaign. Fuck, even Italian. Just anything than a straight Allies campaign.

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>>378048604
>tfw american jets cant handle german prop planes

>>378045196
You weren't going to buy in the first place

>>378048786
And they failed to change that.

>>378048679
An Italian campaign might be too hardcore for CoD without ignoring Mussolini's atrocities.

Fucking exhuming the corpses of Italian WW1 veterans just so they could build a propaganda monument.

>>378048874

>robot tearing off the limbs of the player

Yeah, no, there are plenty of "hardcore" stuff in the CoD series to warrant a Italian campaign.

And I don't give a shit if it's controversial. Almost every single WW2 game or movie follows the Allies, why not spice it up a bit and show it from the Axis perspective?

>>378045196
>>378048786
>>378048873
this

>>378049089
They won't even address the holocaust, how are they gonna address Facist Italy's everything?

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>Call of Duty is going back to World War 2
>But they're replacing all the swastikas
What's the point of trying to retell history if you're not gonna, ya'know, TELL HISTORY?

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>>378045280

>>378049283
with what? just Iron crosses?

>>378049283
>ya'know, TELL HISTORY?
They're even going to talk about the holocaust, so they're far from real history.

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>>378045026
But we can play as African American soldiers, killing the Nazi scum right?
I'm __okay_ with this.

>>378045970
That means they lost. You don't win every hand at poker and then walk away without the money.

>>378049283
I think its illegal to have swastikas in some places in europe. Its easier to put in an iron cross than to make multiple copies.
I fucking hate how world of tanks did this.

https://archive.org/details/youtube-23hUzelYUVA

I'm just going to leave this here. He makes a lot of good points about why it's important to tell the story of the side that lost the World Wars.

>>378049472
They're not removing them. He's just memeing.

>>378049484
shit bait
stop trying so hard, faggot

>>378049089
Remember, this is the same franchise responsible for "No Russian" - but still no balls to let us play a German campaign. Apparently, playing from the perspective of a Nazi soldier is so reprehensible that shooting up dozens of innocents with a machinegun pales in comparison.

It's never gonna happen. And you know the sad part? Given the "political" (read: politically correct) climate, a Nazi campaign is actually even less probable today than it was during the WW2 oversaturation period.

>>378049283
Are they really replacing swastikas?
I hate that shit so much. I remember when I played World of Warships I had to install a mod so my german ships could have the actual Kriegsmarine flag instead of that shitty cross they made.
Same thing for the Imperial Japanese Navy, they just put the normal japanese flag instead.

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>>378049545
yeah, warthunder too
but at least most of the skins and camos are accurate, swastikas included

>>378049590

Doesn't have to be nazi either, just show German soldiers fighting other soldiers. The first few CoD games only focused on battles, it left politics and morals and ethics at the door. It worked then and they could do it again.

>>378049545
No it's not, literally a simple texture swap.
Inexcusable crap by lazy devs.

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>>378045026
why would you want a AAA produced axis campaign in 2017?

you'd probably be playing a strong independent Jewish woman

>>378049545
germany mainly. swastikas are only allowed as art, and videogames are not considered art (what's how movies etc. get away with it).

anything else is considered propaganda or some nonsense due to eternal butthurt and inherited guilt.

>>378049773

Well, that's the thing, isn't it? It always worked for them to simply skip the playing-as-a-german part, so might as well skip it this time around.

>>378048453
>tfw no Holocaust game where you play as a guard at a concentration camp pushing Jews into ovens

>>378049809

activision just doesn't want to create an extra german version

>>378049587
the holocaust did not happen like you think it happened you sheep

>>378049812
Would be a breath of fresh air actually

>>378049851
Fucking Germans.

>>378049545
>some places
Only in Germany.

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>>378050238
blame the old germans and politicians, most people hate that shit too.

>>378049539
Except by the time the fall of Saigon the US army had pulled out. It's the same situation as the US army trying to train up the Iraqi military and the the Iraqis being humiliated by ISIS and losing vast swathes of their territory after the US army pulled out except that ISIS isn't backed by a superpower and Baghdad didn't fall.

And desu Vietnam is like that civil war in Brittany during the 100 Years War. England supported the side that won and then the victors of the civil war sucked up to the French instead of the English who had dumped massive resources into making their side win. Except replace England with China and France with the Yanks. How the Chinese managed to sour relations so bad that Vietnam would rather be in the pocket of a country that they were at war with just a few decades ago is beyond me.

Can I play as a Nazi in multiplayer?

>>378050059
This stuff is not made by the main devs though, that's the localization team's job.
The team that translates games also does other things during localization, in this case it would be to replace the swastikas, and then the rest of the world gets the non localized version.

t. worked in localization for EA in Madrid

>tfw you will never get to defend roma from the allied invasion

>>378045570
>he can't appreciate a good story about tragedy
>he can't appreciate the artistic value of a bad end

>>378048637

Pretty much. 1, UO, 2, 3, and WaW didn't have a German campaign, so not having one in this new game is not surprising in the least. It would be surprising, and rather refreshing, if they did have some axis missions, but it was never the default answer.

>>378050494
which would both need to work in multiplayer without issue etc.

remember this is the company that had a separate queue in IW for the windows store version and steam.

plus you'd have to deal with german ratification boards and put region blocks in place etc - just easier/cheaper to have a global version.

>>378047868
He looks like such a fucking faggot. Those pink little lips, pasty face, and dead eyes slurring out "cuhltural maaaahcksism" in his pig accent are hideous. Alex should stop associating with this filth.

I wasn't expecting one. Nor did I care if it had one or not. I haven't played CoD since Blops 1, which is, by the way, the best call of duty videogame by a large margin.

>>378050407
That picture is pretty retarded. It's almost as if Germany's aggression was an all-out act of war from a foreign government.

While islamic terrorists are lone wolves, and the only governments actively financing them is an enemy, Iran, and an Ally, Saudi Arabia. ISIS is the closest to the government, but that's a stretch and the fuckers are already being bombed.

TL:DR: Equating Nazi Germany's aggression to islamic terrorist is fucking stupid and borderline revisionist.

>>378045026
>good guys are called allies
>bad guys aren't called enemies

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>/v/ giving a shit about Cawadooty

>>378050729
How is multiplayer an issue? Textures are client-side, not server side. There are no compatibility issues between versions or regions if they have different textures, as the texture is just different for each client.

Seriously you have no clue how simple and easy this stuff is.
The main studio provides the localization team with all the assets and the localization team gets to work replacing and adapting whatever assets need to be.
What would probably happen is that you have some cuck intern replacing every single swastika in every texture with whatever the execs dictate it has to be replaced for the German version, and every other localization team in every other country doesn't have to do that.

>there will never be a game where you hold off waves of German marines at Westerplatte
>you will never follow the first French assault into the Saarland
>you will never lead the 10th Mechanized's breakout into Hungary
>you will never storm the beaches of Narvik with the Foreign Legion
>you will never shoot down hundreds of German aircraft at The Hague
>you will never hold the walls of Ebin Emael
>you will never drive a Char 1 bis into a German convoy
>you will never frantically retreat towards the French coast under the cover of Matildas
>you will never man the turret of a Boulton-Paul Defiant and shoot down waves of bombers over London

When will the early war ever get the recognition it deserves?

>>378049539
Except they didn't walk away without their money, they contained the spread of communism which was the main goal.

>>378050434

>How the Chinese managed to sour relations so bad that Vietnam would rather be in the pocket of a country that they were at war with just a few decades ago is beyond me.

By kicking off a war within the same decade that Vietnam unified:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War
Which in turn happened because the Vietnamese invaded Cambodia and overthrew the Chinese-backed Khmer Rouge. And they did this because the Cambodians attacked Vietnam. And the Cambodians attacked Vietnam because they were afraid that Vietnam would attack them first as part of some sort of grand Vietnamese empire. This is all despite the fact they had worked together in the past.

>>378048873
Why would you have bought a shitty game just for an axis campaign

>>378051250
because

>remember this is the company that had a separate queue in IW for the windows store version and steam.

sure it's probably pretty easy from a technical standpoint, doesn't mean they aren't able to fuck it up. one less version to support is one less version that can cause issues etc.

>Cant play as a scared Japanese 17 year old hiding in a foxhole on some shithole island as the White Piggus fire down on your measly spit of sand from a warship
>No BANZAIIIIIIIII

>>378045708
Most ww2 strategy

>You'll never be able to play a Japanese solder using your bayonet on a pregnant lady and throwing her baby into the fire

feels bad man

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>>378045026
>will not have a single player sith campaign

>>378048453
>thinking wehrmacht were nazis
They were just regular soliders, they didn't know what was going on at the camps.

>You'll never be able to play as an axis plant in Tehran and assassinate the allied leaders in a fictional scenario.
Why can't I play super espionage.

>>378052259
yeah but the game itsefl will be trash

>>378045026
/pol/ BTFO

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>>378050483
Yes.
Be ready to buy loot boxes and get the green and purple SS uniform and the nazi salute that transforms into a dab.

>>378051063
t. amerifat who doesn't know how cucked europe is

>>378052260
even the ss werent nazis per say, they were a section of the military and because some ss were assigned to guard the work camps they were thrown under the bus

I'm a little suprised at this. I haven't cared about CoD since the first Black Ops, but I was expecting something akin to "No-Russion" for their big return to WW2.

I mean, they didn't have to go the 'muh evil concentration camp Nazis'. They could've done something like in the show Band of Brothers where one of the captured/executed Nazis in the second episode was American. If they wanted to something darker, they could've taken someone like that and portray the brainwashing the Nazi's did on their soldiers for them to commit their atrocities.

The games are rated M for a reason. They seem to have forgotten that though.

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It never did. Why is it suddenly an issue?

>>378051243
>vietnam unified under communist government as the ussr wanted
>contained the spread of communism
kek
you americans haven't won a war since ww2

>>378046413
I was lucky enough to meet a German soldier at the 70th anniversary of the D-day landings, obviously he didn't have any uniform or vet markings. The poor fucker was 17 when he went there and had no clue what the fuck was going on cause he was in reserve and not the beach head. Told us that his unit caught an American solider who managed to bugger off on them in the middle of the night, and before they knew it the shermans were on them and they had to surrender.

It'd be wonderful to see it from the German perspective, a PROPER German perspective, not some S.S. division like everyone thinks where you'd have a shit-ass mission that would comprise of walking around slowly to a narrative while shooting Jews or some shit.

I hope that we can play as the Soviets. It's really sickening to see all this Western propaganda when WW2 was actually "Soviets Defeat Japan And Germany".

>>378052571
>The games are rated M for a reason. They seem to have forgotten that though.

can't sell the game to 12yo timmy this way and god forbid you actually have sth different than the easily digestible LE EVIL NAZIS narrative.

>portray the brainwashing the Nazi's did on their soldiers for them to commit their atrocities.

so if the german's excuse is brainwashing, what's the russian' excuse? revenge?

>tfw you will play a generation war-esque campaign in which you follow a german soldier who slowly gets more and more brutalised and hopeless as the war effort crumbles everything they hold dear to dust
>tfw forced to play more "MURICA FUCK YEAH" bullshit

>>378045026

(((Michael Condry)))

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>>378046069
>racist
huh?

>>378048085
It's racist because Germans were killing Russians which are white niggers.

>>378045026
Nice another ww2 game about muh Normandie, just what everbody wanted

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>>378052615
Why don't try something new? play the game as Axis and try a story about them , i mean communism will ruin europe and germany need to stop that. Of couse will be a shitstorm if something like this happen, but will be something new no just same bullshit , normandia and same shit over and over again.

>>378052615
Because its boring as fuck to play american hero #4532.

Its not like your regular german soldier was any different from the american one, but then again, the devs would have to try to make something good.

Still, when someone finally gets the balls to do a german (or japanese) campaign, it will have the potential to become a true classic. A story of easy early victory, turned into a bitter, drawn out defeat. Yeah, in the end you would lose, see all your mates die. It could even have *gasp* emotional impact.

You would basically "win" by surviving the end.

>>378052942
They were literally racist. Racist doesn't mean "I don't like black people".

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>>378052801

>>378047335
you will recall that people bitched about that in reach too, smartypants.

>>378045026

Wow, so brave. Not like they didn't make this decision before.

It's not that there's a big jew behind this, it just wouldn't sell to the normalfags who buy CoD. Try asking one if they want to watch Generation War. They'll likely ask why they'd want to see an evil Nazi's perspective.

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>>378053195
> It could even have *gasp* emotional impact.

too complicated of a buildup, just have an evil looking dude with a german accent commit a warcrime in front of the player.

Hey goys! Remember the 6 gorillion!

>>378052717
Funny how no other southeastern Asian country fell to communism after that.

Really makes you think...

>>378045026
That would take effort and require to acknowledge not every axis soldier shared beliefs of their country

>>378053717
You mean "The Room" budget or what?

>>378053667
there IS a jew behind it, but it has less to do with perpetuating a myth or pushing a "globalist objective" than it is about making as much money as possible. Its a mistake many anons make. Its all about having as broad an audience and getting as much profits as they can.

>>378053819
Cambodia?

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>>378053196
>literally racist
>literally
ayy

>>378045196
yup

>>378052875
in our sjw times, there is absolutely no room for alternate moral values. when someone from a different culture does something that's considered bad according to the beliefs of your social or cultural group, it's absolutely unfathomable to our grown 20-something babies that they might be doing what they believe is right from their moral standpoint. all axis soldiers were 100% brainwashed by mustache twirling villains and stalin is somehow absolved from being responsible for millions of civilian deaths because he thought the evil nazis and that view is fully supported by the current climate of historical revisionism in mass media because the thought that the majority of people on both sides supported eugenics, nationalism and racial purity just makes millenial brains bsod.

>>378053195
There is no easy victories in a Jap campaign.

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It always bothered me that there was some moral compass in war media, like regardless of beliefs its just human vs human. War sucks and the fact that people take a moral high ground at all speaks leaps and bounds about how fucked up human nature is.

Hitler being a shit head and massacreing Jews has nothing to do with the individuals who partook in slaughtering each other on the battlefield. There were people who were forced into battle only because they lived in a certain country, too poor to get out and their families were affected and the rest of their lives a German soldier was probably scrutinized for serving under the Nazi regime even if it was against his will.

Modern media is too afraid to takes risks or create something that might make someone think or sympathize with the thing they were taught which was the "enemy" since birth.

>>378054013
Considering they systematicly exterminated Jews and considered the "Aryan race" as the ultimate human being. Wait. Why should I have to convince to ANYONE that Nazi's were racist? Isn't that an obvious historical fact? What the hell is wrong with you people?

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yes goyim. buy our 140 dollar game. believe the propaganda about those evil nazis and how they were so evil and racist.

heh good goyim

>>378052445
>Judges games that aren't out yet.
Your opinion is trash.

>>378045026
Why would you even want that from a AAA basic bitch normie game? If they put it in at all it'd be about a defector helping the jews to escape/survive because no one has the balls to put in a campaign where you fight the war from their perspective.

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>>378054213
>he actually believes the holocaust happened

get with the times grandpa

>>378052553
the SS were not military.
and yes, they were party members.

>>378054213
Didn't you get the memo? /v/ is now neo-/pol/

>>378054323
Oh. You're an uneducated stormfront hick. I'm sure education is beyond you. "Jewish brainwashing" and all that.

I'll just leave this here: https://imgur.com/gallery/725A7

>>378054334
to expound, the SS were the paramilitary arm of the NSDAP, so they were party members for sure, and they were above the military ranks, without actually being in the military, since they were a party control organ.

>>378053686
For contemporary AAA devs? Yeah, you are right.

And unfortunately for it to look and sound great, you need a AAA budget, which no one is going to give them.

>>378054112
They completely steamrolled allies early on. Also while the attack on PH didnt succeed 100% (since they wanted to sink carriers), it still castrated the american sea power in the Pacific for a long time.

Has there been any one that lets you play as the Germans? I only remember playing as the Russians putting their flag up on the Reichstag

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>>378054323

>>378054079
sjw times? The allies won the war, the axis ideology was defeated in war. The winner writes history, this has nothing to have with sjws...

>>378054267
Just because something appeals to the masses doesn't make it immune to criticism and doesn't mean I can't have high standards for that thing. Plenty of popular franchises have had a controversial or moral ambiguity in it's actions.

Hell, MW2 had a scene where you murdered innocent people straight up, played as a terrorist, and it was a good moment. There was definitely some self meta commentary in violence in media and how doing actions like murdering innocent people could come across as "fun" to a player without context.

>>378054002
Except Cambodia only became communistic during the height of the Vietnam war, not after.

>>378054213
You say that like it's a bad thing.

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>>378054405
"education" is brainwashing you pay for in case you didn't know

>>378049587
grow up

>>378046069
Everyone in the fucking world was a racist by your standards

>>378053195
>2017 still no press F to seppuku/swallow cyanide

>>378045026
D R O P P E D
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P
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>>378047429
Because like with Civ V people who liked WW2 games moved beyond CoD. People who like WW2 games have played Red Orchestra and shit like that just like those who liked Civ IV back in the day played shit like EU3 and Victoria 2 and then when Civ V came out it was shallow and lacking to those who loved Civ IV in its heyday. Now those people who moved from WaW to Red Orchestra are finding the new CoD to be lacking.

>>378045970
Lmao
Americat defense force back at it again

>>378054912
>tfw can't kill Jews and niggers ;(

Yes, you're just like every other normal person.

>>378055343
What the actual fuck is this post?

>>378055313
>Americat
???

>>378052875
>so if the german's excuse is brainwashing, what's the russian' excuse? revenge?

Call it whatever you want. Taking young men and slowly making them commit worse and worse acts, all while drugging them at the same time, is brainwashing.

I don't validate what Stalin did either.

Go back to /pol/.

Video games.

>>378055436
Oh, right, it's okay to talk about politics if you have your opinions, but not if you have opinions you disagree with, of course

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>you are now a SJW if you think the Nazi's did bad things

>>378046662
I have to say the most important moment of my life, with a regard for history, was comprehending a German youth in the 1930s and thinking about how they would view Hitler and since the damage is wrought during the first World War.
I spaced out during a World War II video of a Hitler speech in a World History Class, and I recall thinking to myself that he sounded persuasive, though I did not understand the German he spoke, but from his appearance, the energy in his speech, and the firmness of his motions, there was a leadership. A part of me then sais "this is fucked up because Hitler," but the other part realized that this was how people felt at the time: it was a genuine desire to rebuild and make their country a better place
https://youtu.be/I7dmcHoODZI

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>>378045026
who wants to bet they won't even put swastikas in the game?

>>378055421
You're accusing me of having low standards for calling people racist simply because I pointed out the fact that the Nazis were racist. If you can't even admit that the Nazis were racist, then you're not just stupid, you're also a coward.

>>378054323
>some dude managed to have a regular life in a totalitarian system
woooow
i love hitler now 1488 holy shit

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>>378055564
it doesn't make you an SJW, it just makes you an idiot

>>378055534
Its not ok to force political opinions on non political boards. I didn't say any opinion. I stated facts.

video games.

>>378048604
Bayern is such a good girl.

>>378045835
t. jew

>>378055645
Don't try to argue with /pol/tards dude. They are too far gone.

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>>378055995
>oh no someone disagrees with me, better shut down and blame it on the fact that they think differently from me rather than using facts to substantiate my arguments

seem like the only tard here is you

>>378050407
>>378051063
Britain declared war on Germany not the other way around you memesters

>>378045570
>he didn't play Star Wars Battlefront II
The truth is, the majority of people want an option to play as the antagonists in games of most media.

>company ran buy a bunch of jew rats
>expect them to ever let you be the jew killers
this site has way too many Reddit/Tumblr fags now

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>>378045026
I guess Japan wins, again.

>>378056119
Top-shelf hypocrisy.

>>378056139
there was a chart with the online playerbase percentages for the rebel alliance and the galactic empire for some star wars game that showed the majority of first world nations played as the empire while the bulk of developing nations picked the alliance

weird right

>>378045026
i don't think cod2 or cod1 had axis campaigns either.

it's supposed to be about heroism in the face of evil.

>>378054323
>don't believe the mainstream propaganda manufactured by the evil jews
>instead believe this piece of unbiased evidence by an ex-SS officer

>>378056476
really makes you think

>>378045026
to the surprise of literally no one

>>378056119
>nazi pepe
fuck off back to /r/the_donald

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>>378056541
>media depictions of the time

vs

>actual first person account

hmm I wonder which one makes more sense

you fucking normalfag sheep are really something

>>378048453
>meanwhile america was putting japanese americans into internment camps

>>378056267
>Britain could've sided with the Axis
Fuck you England I hate you.

Still waiting for an apology from Americans for fighting for the wrong side.

>>378051250
>The Chinese back the Khmer Rouge
I didn't know that. Why the fuck would China back a regime that was genocidal towards the Chinese people living in Cambodia? Are they giant cucks or something?

>>378046069

All those liberal egalitarians storming the beaches of Normandy...

>>378045970

US lost the Vietnam War. We had little reason to intervene in the first place.

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>>378056651
ive never been on reddit and I didn't vote for trump

I just know that the nazis were good people and ~70 years of media depictions and school indoctrination have taught people otherwise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg

>>378056679
Oh so first person accounts matter when they're not done by jews I see.

>>378045196
:)

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>>378052260

>>378045970
Yeah all they have to do is count their losses as partisan attacks and not military losses, and you won every battle.

>>378056820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW0Kg_rBi2k

of course not

>>378045947
that was about the coldwar dumbass

>>378056636
no matter which way you slice it you cannot call the nazi's heroic

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>>378054213

>>378054213
Everyone wants to exterminate their enemies when they go to war that's the whole point

>>378054415
>all that bias in the main body
nice try, schlomo

THERE WAS NO AXIS IN COD 1 OR 2

HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS ARE EASIER TO TRIGGER THAN FEMINISTS

WHY ARE YOU ALL SO EMBARRASSING?

>>378056679
Yes, I'm absolutely sure living in Hitler's Germany was absolutely great if you were a SS officer.

>>378054561
Dude what the fuck are you talking about, the Vietnamese invaded Cambodia to defeat the Khmer Rouge after the fall of Saigon.

No way, germans must keep being the evil army of death they're always portrayed as, it's a staple of the military history, and it's rad as fuck.
>Reminder to thank Hitler everyday for creating an army of comic tier villains that tried to use black magic and shit to win a world war

>>378057010
Or 3 or WaW, it's literally a bunch wehraboos and wet behind the ears internet fascists who got all memed up during the last US presidential election.

>>378056125
Germany attacked Poland which was under a public British guarantee.

>>378045026

It's not something I really wanted but I could see an Axis campaign being a really powerful experience, even in a CoD game.

>That slow march into despair as you know the end is coming and you aren't going to win

They missed a good opportunity here.

What did you guys expect?
Call of Duty making an Axis campaign would be suicide
Far left wouldn't buy it because muh SJW Hitler bad
Far right wouldn't but it because muh patriotism fuck our enemies I want to be American
And this country is fucking Retarded and barely anyone is moderate

>>378045570
But games with edgy grimdark endings where you/everybody dies are all the rage these days.

>>378057221
fucking seriously, it's ridiculous how these people will freak out over anything.

they're more sheep than man at this point

>people pretending they didn't know it'd just be US only Normandy again
lol

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>>378057017
lets see

>Almost everyone had a job
>Almost no wealth inequality
>Animals had rights (Germany was one of the first to enact these)
>Very little crime

oh wait, MUH HOLOCAUST GOYIM. THEM EVIL NAZIS.

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Who the fuck was EXPECTING a AAA game to have an Axis campaign?

>>378057413
>implying any of those are good things

>>378057413
None of that is true, except the animal thing, but that's only on paper.

>>378056119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX4g7y3i19o

>>378056267
wtf i love boats

>>378057413
You realize the german people under the nazi regime had basically no rights and lived in a constant state of emergency right?

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>>378057520
>>378057531
>there are people who will actually defend a lack of wealth and happiness for their people

this world is fucking disgusting

>>378057413
yes, the political and ethnic oppression for those who weren't part of the "in" group tends to cast a shadow over the rest.
>just leave lol who's forcing you to stay
People DID leave. When Hitler invaded everyone else he rounded them up again and had them killed then.

>>378045196
And they as likely don't give a fuck.

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>>378057413
lets see

>made the country more literate than ever
>kickstarted the industrial revolution to the country
>gave good education to everyone
>almost no employment
>world superpower

What was so bad about Stalin and communism again?

>>378056987
Nice way to dismiss everything.

>>378045970
Oh but you're forgetting that US also won the Race for Space despite losing every major milestone. You'll have to pick one. Did US lose Vietnam or did US lose in space?

>>378057413
>oh wait, MUH HOLOCAUST GOYIM

Why do people still believe it didn't happen. I've seen every dumb image dump and not a single one has proven anything to me. You know that not a single nazi denied it, right? Like they all admitted they killed Jews, Gypsys, pols, ect.

>>378057672
full employment means stagnation, this has been proven
no wealth inequality just means everyone is suffering equally

animal rights is cool though i like that
low crime usually goes hand in hand with a proper human rights.

>>378057318
>he forgets the soviets also attacked
>he really thinks even if the soviets shot first the eternal anglo would help them
sounds like british aggression on germany tb.h

>>378057413
>>Very little crime
As typical of a regime with an active secret police. There was very little crime in East Germany and the rest of the Warsaw Pact too. Nobody does shit if they're terrified that they'll be disappeared in the night for a crime they don't even know they committed.

>>378057672
Well it just wasn't true, the economy wasn't better, they kicked all women, and people of the "wrong" ethnicity out of the workforce to increase employment. They did not experience an increase in GDP or wealth, and any potential growth they might have shown on paper was due to them plundering the treasury of countries they invaded.

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Why not do something like Europa Europa people couldn't complain if you're a jewish soldier just trying to survive.

>>378057413
>no wealth inequality
Reminder that Goebbels' descendants have a combined net worth of 25 billion

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>>378057717
If something was bad about socialists, surely America wouldn't have one running for president?

>>378045026
>le redditor's passive aggressive judgement comment
>literally offers no discussion
>only mandates group think narrative and pure censorship of any opposing viewpoints

>>378057949
Of course Britain wouldn't have helped Poland if it was the Soviets only...the guarantee was against Germany *specifically* in response to Germany breaking the Treaty of Munich and invading the rest of Czechoslovakia. Hitler cutting a deal with Stalin to invade Europe together blindsided the entire fucking world.

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>>378058036
Don't tell me you actually think women belong in the work force.

/v/ is the most normie infested board, holy shit

>>378056853
That guy with the gun is czech btw, not a german
nice shitty image

>>378056814
this video is forbidden in France.

fuck.

>>378048453
For your average Kraut soldier, yeah, that was their reality.

Holy fuck so many people are ignorant as fuck about nazi germany despite talking about it like they were there.
Here is epsiode 1 of the most based WW2 documentary in history, it's all about germany from 1933-1939.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x13pwg5_the-world-at-war-ep-1-a-new-germany-1933-1939_shortfilms

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>>378058093
>>378057717
200 million dead, for starters.

>>378058153
why shouldn't they be allowed to work?

>>378045701
No there wasn't.

>>378058093
>Socdems and Tankies are literally the same thing

Sure just like Hilary Clinton and Trump are the same.

>>378058272
>not even real communism
Great start faggot.

>>378057413
>>Almost everyone had a job
they only got that by kicking women out of the workforce, throwing jews and other undesirables into camps and ramping up military spending to insane levels
>>Almost no wealth inequality
complete bullshit, nazi germany still had rich elites like the Krupps
the Nazi economy was built on looting and short term gains, hence why they plundered Poland, Czechoslovakia and Eastern Europe during Barbarossa

>call of duty
>in 2017
come the fuck on now

>>378058308
Women are not physically or mentally capable of doing the same jobs as men. Granted there are jobs that they can do with their abilities, but women are suited to be mothers and caretakers. Not workers.

>>378045026
Why and what kind of retard was expecting an Axis singleplayer campaign in CoD anyway?

I know the games are made mostly made for underage, but cmon.

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>>378058353
Name one difference between Hillary predictions and what Trump ended up doing.

>>378058036
The reason women didn't work was because the nazi held the common german family sacred, even in 1940 Hitler wouldn't allow women to work because he believed their place was at home raising children. All germans were encouraged to eat the same traditional german meal despite their status and the nazis pushed a lot of other 'folk' ways of life.

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>>378055645
Define "racist"
Do you mean discriminate (see or acknowledge the differences between) the races? Race certainly exists and there are differences in the body and mind between the races, so do you deny reality or is there some special meaning to your term of the word racist? Does using this term add anything to the discussion or do you simply utter it in order to silence your opposition, what the fuck does racist mean and why should anyone care

>>378058446
>Women are not physically or mentally capable of doing the same jobs as men
So they shouldn't be able to work at all? That's retarded.

I don't think I've ever played a COD game but I remember back when MW2 was a big thing there was this big hullabaloo about "No Russian." Are they simply trying not to get that kind of backlash again or are they just giant pussies nowadays that wouldn't even think of taking that kind of risk?

>>378058446
That's for every individual woman to decide.

>>378058258
it's the /pol/tard infestation

>>378058446
>American and Soviet mobilization
>versus German mobilization

History proves you're absolutely retarded.

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>>378045026
>another pol bait thread
and yet they still take the bait
I guess the redpill does not keep dicks out of your ass

>>378058546
>Granted there are jobs that they can do with their abilities

Read more than part of my sentence you moron.

>>378045835
>He doesn't know the difference between SS and Wehrmacht

There are good hearted that fought for their own survival and for the love of their family. They despised the Hitler and the SS but could not abandon their country.

The jews have brainwashed you and it's very sad.

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>>378055785
>Nazi's were 100% good and justified

>>378058576
Women can't decide anything. They need men to do it for them.

>>378058615
How does that prove anything?

>countries with bigger populations of women that put them to work during total war means something!

/v/ is so full of retards when it comes to politics.

>>378057512
>Korra picture
Tumblr GTHO

>>378058659
>they despised Hitler and the SS

The SS I'll grant you, but only because the traditional Prussian army hated how stupid they were in combat and how they were totally outside Wehrmacht command. But trying to pretend the average German didn't love Hitler is retarded.

>>378058642
I did, why do you believe they shouldn't be in the workforce, at all, don't move the goal posts. Your original statement implies they shouldn't be in the workforce at all.

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>>378058387
nice joke anon!

>>378045026
The axis were all people of color. That's why they lost

>>378045701

That was a tie.

I always play the germans if I can in WW2 games and I think their aesthetics and tactics were cool as fuck but if you seriously think the Nazi regime improved society you're absolutely retarded.
The Nazis hijacked an entire peoples' national pride and resentment towards the treaty of versailles. The german people thought they were taking back what was rightfully theres up until they started conquering land that wasn't even historically german. At that point there wasn't much they could do though.

>>378045026
So.... CoD 1-3?

>>378058789
>countries that put their women to work to increase their workforce outproduced the country that barred women from factories totally

gee, what could we possibly learn from this

is it that artificially lowering your potential workforce by half is beyond brain-dead when you declare war on the entire world? it can't be

>>378058878
I never said explicitly they shouldn't be in the workforce at all you fucking illiterate spastic. I just said that any job that they can do men can do better, but that doesn't mean that they can't do some jobs. Despite that, women are just more suited to taking care of the family and children rather than slaving away in an office or whatever.

>>378058659
see
>>378056853

>>378047330
They where saving the world by getting rid off the jews.

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>>378045026

What did you expect? Really...

>>378058986
>when you declare war on the entire world

more like the entire world declared war on them

of course you wouldn't know since you know nothing about history

>>378057776
They lost both, but the US decimated Vietnamese forces if you look at the death toll.

>>378058986
Germany fucked up so badly with their production. Even after the conquered france and were preparing for war against the soviets they were still mass producing consumer goods and had no women in their workforce.

>>378058997
>Don't tell me you actually think women belong in the work force.

That's what you said, friendo. But if we're just going to call each other names, I wonder. How weak was your father to raise such a little bitch of a "man"?

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There is no conceivable reason why that the entire other side of the second World War should be cut out from military fiction.
It's not so much that people want to be GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW, but that people want to have a campaign from the Axis point of view simply for historical value. I want to be able to play as each side of the conflict along with their respective countries.
Only thing that is preventing this is the sentiment that ALL GERMAN SOLDIERS WERE NAZI FASCISTS REEEEE

>Muh American freedom
>Women aren't allowed to work
Pick one, freedom lovers.

>>378055645
>>378055995
lynching niggers was legal in America at this time

Racism was a part of daily life in 1940s USA

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>>378058387
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>>378054213

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>>378059168

>>378059134
Apparently strong enough to instill in me the idea that women can't do the same work as men and therefore are inferior.

Women don't belong in the work force. They belong taking care of children watching the homefront. HOWEVER that does not mean that they CANT WORK. They can do certain jobs. But men can do them better. Hence why they don't belong.

Logic is not your strong suit

>>378059089
>invade a country that's under the protectorate of another country
>GEE WHY DID YOU DECLARE WAR ON US WE DINDU NUFFIN WRONG

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>>378059089
>more like the entire world declared war on them
Germany declared war on:
>Poland
>Denmark
>Norway
>The Netherlands
>Belgium
>Yugoslavia
>Greece
>the Soviet Union
>the United States of America
First, and generally with an immediate surprise attack coming within hours of the declaration. Who knows nothing about history again you braindead Wehraboo?

>>378059406
You had a horrible mom, I can tell. And if you're gonna winge about logic, don't move the goalposts.

Try again, my redpilled amigo

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>WW1
>germans fighting france
>deep into enemy territory
>commies in your own country end a war you aren't even losing while making you the loser
>country goes to shit
>see commies rioting in your streets trying to get into power
>for some reason every single of their leaders is jewish - might be a coincidence who knows
>fight back
>try to fix the injustice that happend after the first war
>somehow you are the bad guy

>>378045121
>>378045196
>>378045280
Wanting to play as the loser.

The good guys lose - 1945
Communism and SJWs have political power - 2017
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK. FUCKING ANGLOS AND THEIR NIGGER COLONIES

I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong about the war atrocities committed in WW2 but there is a fucking amazing book about a specific group of german policemen on the subject called 'Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland'

A bunch of regular policemen, civilians, not even military were brought into poland and their commander told them it was going to get pretty bad and gave them a chance to leave. Out of 500 men only 12 men opted out of going further.

Those men that remained, normal men, went on to kill 83000 fucking people by the end.

>>378057338
>Far left wouldn't buy it because muh SJW Hitler bad
I'm pretty left wing and i'd happily play a game showing the Axis perspective
Could also show areas of WW2 that usually get overlooked too, e.g. Italian Civil War, Japan vs China, the Baltics, the Balkans, France and the Low Countries

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>>378059526
>>378059550
>have a regional conflict with a neighboring country
>two different countries decide to get involved for no reason
>"MUH EVIL HITLER DECLARED WAR HES AN EVIL FASCIST AND RACIST"

>>378059562
>>commies in your own country end a war you aren't even losing while making you the loser
>what is the Turnip Winter
>what is the failure of the Spring Offensive
>what are the planned 1919 Offensives
>what is the collapse of Austria Hungary allowing the Italians to invade from the south

By 1918 Germany was totally spent and starving to death. It wasn't a question of if they would lose, it was only a question of how many would die and how much of Germany would need to be destroyed to see it to the end.

>>378059562
What about the jews who fought alongside you in WW1?

>>378059562
you forgot to mention the part where Wilhelm II breaks all the fucking alliances and starts the whole bloody mess because he's still butthurt about not being half of a man Bismark was

Daily reminder that Video Games were invented by kikes and if you think your a National Socialist but still play vidya you need to get your head out of your ass.

>>378059741
He was evil, he was racist, and he was a fascist. What the fuck are you even saying you deluded reject?

>>378059556
No, I had a great mother. I respect her because she had the strength to work and raise a family. But she told me once that she liked raising us kids more than working at her 8 hour a day minimum wage job to support us.

Its okay, you'll come to accept reality soon. When? Its up to you.

>>378059667
That was this unit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_Police_Battalion_101

>>378059848
>evil
Proof?

>Racist
Proof?

>Fascist
Fascism isn't necessarily bad

>>378059741
>completely ignoring every single other country in Europe besides Britain and France that Hitler invaded

Not even touching on him burning the Treaty of Munich not even six months after he signed the damn thing.

>>378059989
Britain and France were the ones that declared war first. Why should they not be the main focus?

>>378045196
2pbp

>>378045026
And all Tripwire Interactive needs to do is put Red Orchestra 2 on sale for 5 bucks to make a fuck load of cash.

>>378059982
>proof?
Laws based on race barring you from owning a business, voting, marrying outside your race, and forcing you to move into a walled ghetto with no contact with the outside world are literally the definition of racism. It even meets Tumblr's retarded definition of racism.

>>378060170
Its free on Humble right now

>>378060170
>tfw the only populated servers left in that game have 100+ ping for me
I was playing in a full game the other day and the person with the lowest ping had 70, everyone else had 110+

>>378047330

Okay.

Why is it okay to play them in multiplayer then?

>>378050623
> good story
> artistic value
> call of duty

u wot m8?

>Allies

i only saw americans on the trailer lmao fucking americans

>>378060087
Because all those other countries were not part of the war you insipid retard. Every single one was neutral. Fuck, the Soviet Union was ALLIED with Germany and they still stabbed them in the back.

>>378060253
>The Hitler wanted to take over the world meme

Yeah he was total nuts.
Wanted to extreminate all non germans
Only had one ballsack
Was secretly gay
And also build UFOs
Oh and of course he was also a jew

>>378056702
Lmao good, I wish the Americans would have made the atomic bomb sooner to Arthur "Krispy Kraut" Harris could have nuked Berlin. Imagining all those stupid fucking Krauts dying from radiation poisoning makes me smile.

>>378059585
But we play as Western Civilization in every WW2 game.

The Japs, despite losing almost as badly as the Italians, ironically won long term.

>>378045026
Wow and they almost could have done something mildly interesting.

How many fucking times have I experienced the HOORAH MURICA IS ON GOD'S SIDE campaign? They even presented the Russians in a similar way in world at war.

For fucks sake just have some German soldier in a concentration camp who is conflicted about killing the jews or something. It really isn't that complicated.

>>378060205
That's Rising Storm, Americans vs Japs. I'm talking about Germans, who you can play as in RO2.
>>378060258
Most of us are playing Rising Storm 2 right now (at least while the beta was up). The game will probably get back some population once people want to go back to WW2 Krauts/Slavs.

>>378060379
>falling for that obvious joke image

ahah oh wow, wtf I LOVE hitler now!

>>378060430
>INCLUDES ALL RED ORCHESTRA 2 MULTIPLAYER CONTENT!

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>>378060382
DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS

>>378060330
Obviously they were part of the war. Have you never looked into this?

/v/ermin have no right talking about WW2 or politics.

>>378060202
>Laws based on race
Nothing wrong with this

>forcing you to move into a walled ghetto with no contact with the outside world
America did this too. Wheres the outrage at Americans for that?