Warcraft III

>>378042662
>enlightenment era 2005-2008
WC3 was already dead by late 2004, with DOTA autohost bots taking over 90% of the custom games list.

>>378042662
Fuck DOTA, i never enjoyed that shitty map and having to swim through hundreds of fuckin dota "servers" to find a fuckin tower defense or some survival game was pain

>>378042942
>DOTA autohost bots taking over 90% of the custom games list.

Host bots came out in 2008. DOTA got its first WCG tournament in 2005.

>custom games
no, anon, you are the cancer

>>378043262
le MLG pro

>>378043201
Can you source me on that? Because I'm convinced that WC3 went to shit around the same time that I started playing WoW, which was mid-2004. It was because of them that WoW replaced my freetime over WC3.

>>378042942
this is bullshit i played WC3 back in 2004

>>378043262
>tryhard madfag detect

>>378043506
How is playing the game in it's intended form making me "le pro gam3r"?
Wc3 was developed as a strategy game with 1v1 matches as a balancing gold standard. You're just using it's engine for retarded meme maps

>>378042662
golden era: 2002-2005

dota era: 2005-ded

fuck dota.

>>378043995
>Wc3 was developed as a strategy game with 1v1 matches as a balancing gold standard.
lmfao did you even play warcraft 3? the game's balance is whack with some races dominating 1v1 while the others dominate team games

>>378042662
Ah custom games, for the casual retards who were to shit to play regular vs mode

>>378043995
Nobody. And I mean: Nobody would give a shit about WC3 without its map editor.

Which saddens me, because it's still the greatest map editor a game ever had, especially with TFT

>>378042662
It's time to move on, Anon.

We know you miss the golden age of gaming because, well, you were younger and didn't give a fuck.

Your nostalgia is taking over, just like the rest of the people in the world who play vidya. Just move on.

>>378043995
dont listen to /v/'s top underachievers

Well blizzard helped kill wc3 when they forced delay upon everyone for no good reason. I tried to get back into it like 2 months ago but it's not fun to play with 2 second delay and on private servers such as w3arena I just get shat on.

>>378043594
>which was mid-2004

So before WoW was even released?

>>378045108
Didn't WoW come out like November 2003?
I guess I got a year wrong

>>378043995
/v/ is casual central of the internet, they like to claim they are "hard core" but whenever it actually comes to proving thier skill vs another opponent they all of a sudden hate anything not massively casual

>>378043262
>>378043995
>>378044163
>>378047274

same buttmad esports-watching fag detected

>>378047620
if they watched esports they would at least know wc3 is not balanced for 1v1 in the slightest

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fuck off meleefag losers

>>378042662
>le ebin vanilla faggot

fuck off nigger, MoP > Legion > WoTLK/BC > WoD > Cata > Literal Garbage > Lost Viking > Heroes of the Storm > Hearthstone > Dota 2 > League of LEsbians > Vanilla WoW

youre a fucking shillkike nigger, fuck off

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I
CAN'T
FEEL
THE WAY I DID BEFORE

>>378048725
HotS is pretty good

>>378048725
He's talking about WC3.

You are literally retarded. congratulations you little Asperger-bot

>>378048725
He's not talking about WoW, retard.

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>>378048962
>>378049070
>is a warcraft thread
>is obvious bait thread
>will inevitably get bogged down by WoW dicsussion because /wowg/ is a literal clutsterfuck of furries, autism and JoJo the shitposer
>this happens in EVERY single WC thread

hello summer

Now I want to play Enfos

Or Castle Fight or Darwin's Island

>>378049137
>will inevitably get bogged down by WoW dicsussion because /wowg/ is a literal clutsterfuck of furries, autism and JoJo the shitposer
so which one are you since you brought it up?

>>378049267
>because /wowg/ is

are we in /wowg/ right now, or are we AWAY from /wowg/ right now?

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>>378049137
you absolute mongoloid, delete your posts

>>378049137
>/vg/ poster
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/image/e4pF7qYJKTm4uheQAg6Njw/

>>378042662
you know, there might not be as many games as before, but i could install wc3 and log on right now and find many things to play besides dota

>>378049418
My friend, thats a post from /d2g/, you fucking moron.
Go find me a thread on /v/ that has ASSFAGGOTS

>>378048913
>playing autism maps like run kitty run
holy shit lmao get some taste, i bet you played the RP maps and life of a peasant too you cringelord

>>378044161
Maybe at scrub levels. In pro games the races were well balanced.

>>378049740
You are delusional if you think Undead are as strong as Orc or NE in 1v1. There's a reason WC3 is getting a balance patch soon while BW isn't.

>>378043995
>le
Fuck off

>>378042942
No.

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>tfw out of all of the AoS games on WC3, DotA Allstars became the most popular even though it had one of the worst game designs, terrible community, and was filled with stolen content

>>378049905
Source on the balance patch? I'd like to see what they want to change.

>>378050309
yeah that's most popular wc3 maps

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Which of these maps would you like to see made into a full game, like Dota?

Which of these maps do you think would ACTUALLY be successful as a stand-alone game?

>>378050462
find-the-traitor maps have potential to be standalone games I think

>>378050337
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/bnet/topic/20754965441

>>378049137
Man, I fucking miss Dark Ages of Warcraft

The triggers were tons of fun

>>378050462
There was one RTS that was fucking bad ass. You started on a planet and could zoom out to see 4 worlds on the map. You eventually worked out to go to outer space and could drop pod marines and even a spider infestation onto the planet. Shit was dope as fuck. Some of the spaceships could even go planetside. They'd be fucking huge of course but it was so worth it

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>>378050309
>worst game designs
sure smells like mad cuz bad
>terrible community
can't argue with that one
>filled with stolen content
pic related

>>378050462
Dark Deeds, Memestasis, Uther Party, and Warlocks

>Not playing SC custom games instead
I mean sure the map editor wasn't near as good, but it didn't have Dota cancer.

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>>378050462
How to be Black

>>378050909
>dark deeds
>uther party
Did you mention those autism maps on purpose as a joke or did you actually enjoy them? That's embarrassing as hell mate

>>378050462
Enfos, a million times Enfos. So much fun playing it.

>>378042662
It's not dead, just filled with chinks and eastern europeans.

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WERE MY DBZ BROTHERS AT!?

if you play future trunks or the Androids, your a huge faggot.

>>378050462

None of them. They were all pretty fucking bad. The only reason Warcraft 3 was fun was because it had immense variety. Playing the same map repeatedly is like going to a really low quality buffet and eating only one thing. Quantity is more important than quality.

>>378050789
>>worst game designs
>sure smells like mad cuz bad
Nope. The majority of the hero designs are incredibly dull, as the game took a quantity over quality approach. The same goes for items and the recipe system was extremely clunky. There's very little strategy to engage in regarding the actual team/AI in comparison to other AoS maps. Denying is the result of laziness and people think it somehow adds complexity, when it just adds tediousness rather than fun, which is really an ongoing theme for the game in general.

>>filled with stolen content
>pic related
You can't be serious. Allstars from the get-go was a combination of stolen ideas. Over the course of many years code (literally line by line), ideas, and artwork were stolen from other maps, and that is a well known fact particularly for those were involved in custom map making.

X hero siege was fun as hell

>>378050462
Some good survival pvp stuff with crafting and basebuilding would be good but people are slowly making these.
uther party would make a great cheap steam game to kill time with friends.
None of the good TD maps are listed in the image.
Castle fight and civilization were great.
Seriously tho, why isn't YouTD on that list?

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>tfw you open the WC3 map hall of fame and see your map is on there
>http://classic.battle.net/mod/halloffame.shtml

Fuck I miss spending like 8 hours a day after school working on that shit every night. I'm one of the creators of Pyramid Escape by the way, but I abandoned the project when WoW released.

>>378050909
Arent they making a game based on warlocks?

>>378042942
>bots in 2004
Fuck off retard.

>>378051151
I listed them because both have excellent replayability and the capability for normies to enjoy them. They are not all "autism maps"; that designation goes to WC3 RPGs.

>>378051710
>>378050909
yeah just checked, there's several. check out spellsworn on steam.

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>>378051583
>You can't be serious
still waiting for that proof

>>378051846
dark deeds is definitely an autism map

>>378051412
i never played this, and i regret it

how did the map play like?

>>378051692
I found it funny that Blizzard only kept it up for such a short period of time so that only 6 maps ended up in the hall of fame. At least the 6 that are there are deserving.

>>378051412
I played Cell

>>378043995

>game comes with map tools
>people use said tools to make maps

How is this not "playing as intended"? Do you hate fun?

>>378051692
>Footman Frenzy by HatoUP
except it was made by Nosferatus and HatoUP and his faggot clan stole it and stole all the development credit

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>>378042662
i miss hero siege

>>378052395
i never understood the appeal of that map, the only times i played, people just picked the most broken heroes and it was just a matter of killing stuff in a tunnel

>>378052054
I could drag up plenty of archived threads on WC3 map making communities and lines of stolen code, but I'm not going to waste my time. You must have been completely oblivious if you didn't know Allstars was filled with stolen ideas. Hell, it's called Allstars because the hero pool initially consisted of heroes taken from other DotA variants, without the creators' permissions of course, including Eul until he started getting paid years later.

>>378052563
no competition with other players, everyone's a winner no matter how shitty you are.

it's a terrible map to be honest

>>378052303
>buy a bottle of Cola
>drink Cola
>stick the bottle in your butthole
>"The bottle was included, so I'm using it as intended"

>"waa waa custom games are so good"

>SC2 custom games fucking barren
>dota custom games fucking barren

Looks like you guys are all talk and no play.

>>378043262
>defending melee RTS games aka gookclick simulators
go and stay go

>>378051412

>Goku
>you decide the entire game; if you rush Broly and the sagas the whole game is already over, no one can compete
>Vegeta
>like Goku but slightly worse since you don't get the Broly bonus
>Gohan
>like Goku but slightly worse
>Future Trunks
>trash, might as well turn into Krillin and use the cheat that lets you get 5000 attributes in 20 minutes
>Piccolo
>by far the worst character; shit even if you use the cheat to get a huge stat multiplier, only gets one beam, complete embarrassment, the only character that can never maintain its stat multiplier not to mention it only applies to strength, what the fuck
>Androids
>only good if your opponents are mentally retarded and let you grind a bit
>Buu
>technically could be better than any of the Z-fighters in the long run because candy grinding is strong, but no good players will let you candy grind
>Bebi
>you will never actually possess anyone worth possessing
>Broly, only use is to use the cheat that lets Broly get infinite stats
>only use is to die to Goku and give him +300 attributes or to cheat with Bebi; a good Broly will always type -stuck at the start so that he dies before Goku can get to him
>Cell
>actually somewhat decent, but a good Gohan will always kick your shit in
>Metal Cooler
>in the long run, no one can beat him. If the game goes on for 30 minutes and no one is stopping his grind, the game is over, there are now 500 metal cooler clones that no one can defeat

This map was such a disappointment. The game is skewed so much so in the favor of the Z-fighters. With good players, it is entirely impossible to win as evil.

>>378052653
>I'm not going to waste my time
sure, because it's not true and you have no proof whatsoever. I'm not as stupid as most of these children on /v/ who will believe anything they hear or see with absolutely no supporting evidence.

>>378052734
>putting cola bottles up your ass is not allowed

>>378052080
you go around killing npcs and to get stronger. than bosses from the show and movies will spawn and you have to kill them first to gain even more power or special items before everyone else. your in a team, either the good guys (goku, picoolo, gohan etc) or the bad guys (cell buu, cooler etc)

if the other team kills everyone on the opposite team, that team wins (everyone made sure not to kill everyone to make the game last longer)

>>378050462
I mained island defense. It has a lot of depth and could easily succeed as a standalone game

>>378051412
>lock brown (freezer) asap
>create a couple clones and put them on patrol randomly across the map
>rinse and repeat
>babby tier saiyan players cry in all chat
>win and start another lobby
haha nothing beats a good freezer

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>>378050462
>helms deep

i loved that game. hell, i was such a big lord of the rings fanboy at the time.

>>378052946
You are fucking stupid if you're such a fan of what is now known as DotA and know nothing of its roots. It even says the following on the fucking wiki:
>DotA Allstars, originally created and developed by custom map makers Meian and Ragn0r, who took the most popular heroes and compiled them into one map

That same spirit of "compiling" (AKA plagiarism AKA stealing) things continued throughout its existence on WC3. You can literally go ask anyone else who was a map maker on WC3 and you would hear the same. It's not speculation; it's a fact.

>>378053124
>you go around killing npcs to get stronger
more specifically you aggro as many npc as you can and then level your beam attacks and destroy the stack thats following you

the route you take in the first minute of game to aggro and kill as many npcs as possible without dying literally decides the game right there

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>>378053595
>it's a fact because i typed something out with no cited sources whatsoever

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>>378054124
Oh, sorry, I can't find any peer-reviewed journals regarding DotA history for your fucking perusal. The best I can give you is the wiki which already proves the foundation of my claim. The rest of it is archived in countless discussions and threads. Even though you claimed to be "not as stupid as most of these children on /v/" it would appear that you must be very new to Warcraft and the internet in general. Otherwise, you've simply had your head extremely deep in the sand.

>>378050462
can i play any of them alone?

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>>378051625
I dont know why YouTD never got very popular.

It was by far the most high quality tower defense map ever produced by the community with balanced, high variety towers with lots of intricate mechanics and systems. Even the towers looked great with their pseudo-custom models and not 5 variations of the cannon tower in different colors.

Tons of replayability with randomized spawns, tower research, items and the builder xp system.

Sure, it required near autism to beat (240 on atleast medium) but it was objectively the best solo TD map. Could even be played in teams or as 1 team if that's your thing.

Its even still updated to this day and it's the only game I still log on battle.net to play.

>mfw beating the final level 240 boss for the first time

>>378052338
Wait is that true? Fuck man, my whole life has been a lie.

>>378050462
>SotDRP
I could build better shit in that map than in the actual editor. Good times.

>>378057032
>seeing that druid circle dance for the first time after beating it
I still occasionally play a couple of matches while watching a movie.

>>378050754
LTA & LTF are basically improved versions of daow

>>378057032
Played YouTDby myself earlier today. It really is a ton of fun - especially when you can get the advanced heroes. The game is kinda difficult though, the way I win is by getting the priest and getting some sweet auras on him. Don't know any way to get as far with other builds.

I really hope that custom games can make a return somehow, so many fun games I'll never get to play again.

>>378057897
I've played it so much now that I can do 240 mdium pretty consistently by now in roughly 2 hours

X-regen is usually what ends my runs, that mob mod is busted with dps requirements

>>378042662
>Custom games were unique, experimental, and super fun. Every day that you launched Battle.net you knew you could expect something new and surprising to play.
tower defense tower defense tower defense tower defense tower defense tower defense tower defense tower defense

>>378052782
Sc2 map listing was trash early on an alienated devs, also the game editor was trash

Doto 2 has too much baggage from the base game, and not enough default assets. Editor is also obtuse but not as obtuse as Sc2's

Wc3 succeeded because the editor was easy enough, the map listing ignored popularity, and there was tons of base content to make maps out of without introducing custom model. Also as the graphics were older generation making custom assets that fit in with the base game was quite doable by amateurs.

It was a perfect storm, just as the original Doom WAD community was, and as the Minecraft mod making community is.

>>378042662
Hosting bots are good because with normal hosting the game is tied to the player host and if they get butthurt and quit or get disconnected the whole game dies. It's only a problem because there's a million hosting bots hosting trash games that nobody ever joins and it clutters the list.

>>378058198
yeah flying with armor and regen is what generally fucks me up. It's a shame that sometimes you only realize late game that you won't make it simply because you don't get the items that your build needs, but i guess that's what makes it fun.
I used to run iron and nature but now i'm mostly using iron and lightning followed by ice
>tfw you only get magical hammers

>>378058195
yeah you're kinda fucked if you want to progress in YouTD now.
Can always hit the forums and steal someone's code if you ever lose yours.

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>tfw dota 2 customs are shit and dead
>tfw the fanbase told valve how to not fuck it up but they did it anyways
you all better play the remaster when it's released

>>378052734

If the cola bottle also contained ass lube, then I would consider that using it as intended and a decent analogy

>>378050462
>No London Underground

SOME PEOPLE MIGHT LIKE TO GET A TRAIN TO WORK

>>378051583
Fun fact retard it's not stealing when you don't fucking own it.

>>378059659
Funny enough, my favourite part about original dota was that you couldn't understand what the other players were saying so you couldn't get mad.

>>378060572
fuck are you talking about

>>378051583
>laziness and people think it somehow adds complexity, when it just adds tediousness rather than fun, which is really an ongoing theme for the game in general.
t. retard who is bad at dota

why do retards talk about subjects they know nothing about?
> Allstars from the get-go was a combination of stolen ideas.
so were most maps you fucking idiot.

>>378060702
it was all chinks and ruskies and wc3 couldnt display their moonrunes so all you saw was blank messages.

>>378042662
R I P

the golden/enlightenment era was my childhood, when im reminded of it its like remembering a dead parent

Surprised Legion TD hasn't been mentioned yet, it wasn't a great map, but fuck was it popular at times

i never forgave dota/mobas for what they did to WC3 custom games

>>378061393
The more popular maps are still being updated and there are people still playing, but i get where you're coming from.
You can't just binge random maps any more and find a new gem almost every day.

>>378043995
Orc vs. Undead was so skewed towards the Orc player that I have no idea how your could even contort your fingers to say that the game was well balanced. There's a reason why Blizzard turned Warcraft into an MMO and the reason is that Starcraft is a superior game bar none.

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>>378042662
>ywn experience 2002-2008 warcraft 3 again

I find Dota2 Arcade to be pretty cool tbdesu fampai

>>378060412
It's called intellectual property, idiot. It's the reason why DotA could actually be bought/sold.

>>378044163

Tower Defense was more entertaining than the core game.

As was Parasite and Dark Deeds

>>378050462
Life of a Peasant, Island Troll Tribes and Vampirism were literally too good for this world
I miss them so much

>>378062496
tfw was too poor to have a computer back then

>>378063020

>Valve keeps shitting on it since everyone's busy slurping up that Io arcana and paying 80 bucks for an easily modded terrain.

>Arcade getting worse every month, people not making customs anymore.

DEAD GAME FOR CUSTOMS

>>378043995
this

>>378042662
Ironically enough WC3 inadvertently created assfaggots to happened by implementing heroes.

>>378063863
assfaggots existed on Sc1

>>378050462
>Are You A Retard?

u wot m8

>>378064094
It became more prominent on WC3

>>378064102
it was an autistic series of "puzzles" with no logic to the answers and if you failed any of them you got killed and kicked from the game.

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>tfw Blizzard will never make WC4 because RTS's are dead thanks to, ironically, a WC3 mod

>>378050462

>No Island Defense.

Man you think DOTA people got salty when they had a shitter on their team. Feeding and giving away teammates on Island D was a fucking crime and fucking hilarious to boot

>>378064431
Even if they make WC4 you can expect it would have the same shitty multiplayer UI as SC2's where it's all about ladder matchmaking and map making isn't incentivized.

Would you guys be interested in a WC3 HD remake?

>>378051412
>>378052885

i played this maybe 20 times and never really did get the hang of it. one game as cell I somehow got my final form and could end the game but I never understood how the map worked.

>>378066892
I don't care about graphicsfaggotry, but it could mean reviving the game, and that would be literally the best thing to happen in very many years of my life

>>378066892
Yeah if they don't fucking ruin the map maker, include a low graphics mode, only make improvements to the map search rather than having it be some meme popularity ordered shit like SC2, and doesn't include a clause where Blizzard owns the custom games you make.

>>378067572

>Brings DOTA to the Battle.net platform again

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

7 Blademasters / Fight of Characters HD never

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anyone ever beat pic related?

>>378066892
>>378067572

I suspect it'll happen, their classic games team are working across all their oldies slowly but surely, WC3 will probably get some love.

I imagine at a blizzcon inbetween WoW expansions they'll announce a HD WC3 with the new battle.net integration, keeping it up to date so those faggot maphackers dont get free reign

>implying they're relevant in anything but 1v1 anyway

It's pretty funny keeping tabs on who the hacker is, scouting them normally and then just countering their army anyway in 4v4

>>378067675
it would be pretty fucking retarded if the dota audience came back to play it in the wc3 remaster when they have dota as a separate game now
then again, they've never been too bright

WHO /BINDERS/ HERE?

>>378066892
I'd rather they just patch WC3 so bots/empty games are hidden by default (like a little unchecked tickbox that says "Show empty games") and they fix that latency issue.

>>378067883
If blizz actually wanted to eliminate maphacking they'd make the map only partially resident on the client. Yeah it'd introduce a network delay if a large section suddenly gets revealed but it'd be secure. They'd also have to make the client/server syncing ROBUST as fuck.

>>378067980

>Ability to IP ban shitters
>Ability to block out ruskies/br's/tacos
>Ability to play with who you want without issues.

Naturally, I'd pick "Custom DOTA" over DOTA2.

>>378067883
They did mention updating some of their older games and they relatively recently announced the sc1 hd update.

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>>378042662
>>378042662
>>378042662
>>378042662
>>378042662
go to
http://makemehost.com/games.php
find game name
go to any bnet realm
write game name and join

also entgaming.net allows anyone to upload a map and have it hosted by a bot for free

>>378068171
ya except they adding fucking hotkey rebinding to broodwar which is basically legalizing maphacking.. they're only releasing sc1hd to kill the community since they couldn't do it conventionally with sc2

I've been playing legion TD again the past few weeks. Still a great game

>>378068282
Yes and get desynced 15 minutes in because bothosts don't actually run the game they just emulate it on shitty VPS.

>>378050462
>Enfo's
god damn that hit me with a wave of nostalgia. I remember always playing the support hero that couldn't attack and was basically the item bitch for the team. I think I spent most of the last year of me playing WC3 with NOTD Aftermath where I also played the support bitch Predator. WC3 is probably where I got my hardon for being support

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>>378068329
>hotkey rebinding = maphacking
I don't get it

>>378050462
>no poker TD
nigga come on I played that shit for weeks after it came out

>That feel when there will never be a game that has a custom map era like WC3 had.
Valve had the chance to do this with Dota 2 but as incompetent as Valve is they didn't actually do anything to make it good.

>>378050462
>Tree Tag
>Vampirism (1.09 was the goat map)
>Wintermaul Wars (with a bit more customization and a ladder-system perhaps it could work)
>Dark Deeds (could maybe work but would likely get old pretty fast)
>Warlocks
>Uther Party
>Footman Wars

there was also a map called hunters and farmers which was really fun. oh and gangster wars or something like that.

think i once jerked off to something in life of a peasent

>>378052338
Man I played the shit out of the 5.4 AR version. For some reason, bottom right had stacked shops, allowing you to buy shit that would be out of stock. Buying 3 shamans instead of a hero lets you instant kill any human hero in the game at lvl 1. Had 80% winrate then 95% when I started to use map hacks. Was hilarious when you can tell other players were map hacking too. Looking at you AthenaGOW..

>>378068480
idk never had that

>>378042662
I remember playing 5-man free-for-all games around 2003-2004. Best RTS experience of my life. Every game I played ended completely differently and you could never predict what was going to happen by the end. Usually each game lasted about an hour.

It was so fun when it's just you and one other player left in the game, and everything comes down to the heroes (who are all level 10 by that point) because the armies and bases and expansions have all been destroyed through various exchanges beforehand. Even more fun is when you have nothing but your max-level heroes remaining while he still has armies and weaker heroes, but you are somehow beating him and destroying his shit just with the power of your own heroes

>>378068838
yeah hunters vs farmers was alright if you could get everyone to stay in the game. what generally happened was that you'd only have 4 people left after 2 minutes.

>>378066892
No because remasters need to fucking die.

>>378068936
Play on any map that takes longer than 10 minutes, you'll start getting server splits and desyncs out the ass.

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>>378068605
starcraft is a game about reacting under pressure.. you need to be able to make units and issue commands without a second thought even when you're on the verge of getting raped by a korean.. for instance, if you want to make overlords with just hotkeys, you need to enter 5so6so7so8so9so0so quickly,, otherwise you won't have overlords.. hitting 'o' is fucking HARD when you're using 567890 as your hatchery control groups, making zerg macro difficult because you need to consider that limitation of yourself as a player. if you're good enough, you might only miss 'o' once every 20 times. if you're stressed, maybe once every 5 times. the difference between players makes the games more dynamic, and a player with shit composure falls apart more easily.

if you can rebind overlord to 'e,' even the fucking noobest player in the world can hit 5se6se7se8ses9es0es with near 100% accuracy, which takes away a part of the game's strategy.. each race has some keys that are a pain in the ass to hit (protoss with 'p' for probes and pylons is fucking annoying), but it's a part of the game and defines how good you are... the noobs that think it's just a quality of life change are really stupid, that's why rebinding was previously a bannable offense on korean ladders and tournies.. it's also fucking stupid to obsess over optimizing hotkeys instead of practicing the actual game, which is another added bonus of not putting it in the game

>>378069103
I purposely got good as a hunter so I could host those and decimate plebians.

>>378069183
nope

>>378069103
i found that problem to only arise in the later version. in the early ones where hunters were spear throwing trolls and farmers were kobolds, the maps were smaller so it was more balanced, sort of anyway.

in the later ones it was way too big and tried forcing a late game siege by the farmers.

>>378069243
Your autism over such a trivial problem is commendable.

Still not sure how that equates to maphacking.

>>378050768
solar conquest, really good

>>378069243
>>378069541
>writing an essay on this subject

go outside m8

>>378050462
>no footmen frenzy
>footmen frenzy will never be ported to dota2
Feelsbadman

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>>378069541
it gives an unfair advantage between 1.16.1 players and 1.18.x players. it's not broodwar when blizzard was like "we promise we're not making ANY gameplay changes." that's why it's the same as adding maphacking. or MBS. or unlimited unit select.

not sure if it's autism or what, i have played since 1998 and literally moved to korea to find better games

>>378069727
dude get a fucking life holy shit.

You moved COUNTRIES
FOR A VIDEOGAME

>>378050462
>preschool wars
wew nigga every game ended when you flooded the map with so many units they couldn't make it to the enemy base anymore

>>378069727
>i have played since 1998 and literally moved to korea to find better games
that is high level

>>378069727
if you love video games so much you moved to korea to play and youre not making money on it, then yeah its prob autism.
esp since its the same game since 1998

>>378069943
Nah, nuke + water balloons, or vanguards depending on the version

>>378069912
>on /v/
>oh no someone enjoys video games!!!!!!

>>378070036
There's a difference between enjoying something as a hobby and making your life revolve around it. Unless he's making boatloads of dosh for playing like an athlete does, he's mental.

Has anyone beaten WC3 campaign on the hardest difficulties?

I swear I can't do anything except turtle a fuckton with under 40 food and get as much gold and wood as possible, make like 15 barracks at the same time, and when the AI suicides, quickly make units from the 15 barracks and try to take a base.

Beating one mission takes me hours. I run in circles around shitty Brood War AI and the missions within, and here I take extremely grueling victories.

Reign of Chaos Orcs are trash, too, no good healing around, if a Grunt gets to 20 health he doesn't get reused for later, he just takes up food.

I still remember when all the fucking shills insisted that everybody saying the Dota 2 editor was too obtuse and difficult to learn compared to WC3's was a retard and that they didn't deserve to make maps for it
Then they had to one up it and put in the FUCKING POPULARITY SYSTEM TOO

>>378069992
oh well, it was fun as hell and i met lots of cute korean girls, at lots of delish food, improved my korean, and played tons of broodwar. if that's autism than i would much rather be autistic than be sitting alone in the states working a 9 to 5 at a company that i didn't like to come home to play games that i didn't enjoy with other gamers that i didn't respect like i was

>>378070184
i haven't made a cent off of it, i play because i enjoy the competition. not everything in life is about money, once i got enough i just started traveling and doing things that interested me instead of living the corporate meme

>>378070193
Well youtube says they have yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pMNCrVuBgI

>>378070250
nobody in dota 2 customs threads actually touched map editors, they were shitting themselves over terrain paint tools that were in starcraft 1

>>378042942
are you dumb? i played wc3 online few years late prob 2006-2009 and never spotted bots

I played a lot of custom games because of Dota. Back in 2010 when garena was packed as fuck, we played a lot of fun game modes. When Dota 2 came out, garena died and custom games with it.

I dont know why but current custom maps in Dota 2 are absolute shit. I think that era of "custom games" is over and it has no place in 2017. People expected some crazy RTS shit from custom games but the maps are so bad. Only some are playable

>>378064431
>RTS's are dead thanks to, ironically, a WC3 mod
this is what retards actually believe

>>378070559
what

Anyone remembers a series of about 12 maps where 2 MCs were Arthas and Hero-ified Peasant?I distincly remember the last map being 1 minute long and just showing you the parade in honor o the MCs.
There was also an story map where you played as a character with Kael's model and did quests and shit, and then your succubus friend shows up or smth and then you fight those guys you did quests for.
Anyone knows what i am talking about?

>>378070847
the dota 2 editor is much more complex and difficult to learn compared to WC3 or even SC2's and as a result half of the maps are "dota but with more/less lanes". every game let you hit a certain level of complexity before you really had to know programming fundamentals and have outside knowledge. WC3's biggest and most complex maps used a lot of Json scripting but the editor itself was easy and intuitive to use. SC2's biggest problem was losing that intuitiveness, it was significantly more capable and used modified C++ but having to go through so many steps for basic actions turned a lot of people off.
dota 2 editor is meant for existing mapmakers and scripters, you can't do anything but make terrain and make pretty objects without learning scripting. so most people got turned off right at the start and most maps are "dota but with more/less lanes". valve also breaks lots of custom games with each patch and some of them never get fixed. it's a mess and unfortunately they won't do anything about it

Quit your bitchin
Put up some games, ladies
http://makemehost.com/maps-download.php

>>378071150
back when the editor came out in beta in august 2014 people were making webms of them just painting water/grass around and raising terrain a bit and using that as proof that the dota 2 editor was revolutionary and would herald in a golden age of custom games
of course, all of those people never did anything else in the editor besides make pretty terrain.

>>378071729
Yep, one of Wc3's major features was the entire trigger programming system. Made it easy to do medium complexity stuff with a nice GUI.

>>378071825
No, I hate desyncs

>>378072020
I don't see you hosting

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>>378072152
because you barely get any pop these days

You either get shitty bot hosts that desync but host across the server regions, or no players.

>judging the game by custom games made for babbies who cant deal with the actual game

Youre the reason RTS is dead

>>378070847
>I dont know why but current custom maps in Dota 2 are absolute shit. I think that era of "custom games" is over
retard

>>378071843
plenty of people were commenting on how difficult it was

>>378072472
>no players
If only there were people here who wanted to play some Warcraft 3...
Hmm...

>>378042662
>Dark Age: 2009-2010
>Host bots overwhelm the custom games list with a shit load of empty games for DOTA, with a few bots for Vamp Fire and a small selection of TD's, and just general spam URLs to scam websites. The number of players logged onto Battle.net has begun to drop dramatically. Warcraft 3 became synonymous with DOTA.
I think that started with 2010 more, after WoL was released.
Ever since then you had to start using outside communities or play something popular to get games going.

>>378042942
>WC3 was already dead by late 2004, with DOTA autohost bots taking over 90% of the custom games list.
Bot hosting came way later.

The fact that many people liked to play dota in 2004-2005 wasn't a problem.
I saw a full list of games of dota.
I refreshed, then I joined Dark Deeds which filled up immediately.

>>378043995
>How is playing the game in it's intended form making me "le pro gam3r"?
They made wc3 with custom games in mind though.
Custom games is playing the game in its intended form.

>>378043995
for fucks sake mike

wouldn't mind playing a night of the dead round right now.

>>378049740
>well-balanced
>deviate from the meta and you'll lose, no questions
Hmmmmmmmmm

>not playing the late 2011-2014 golden age of Korean top tier maps like fate/another
You missed out

>>378050462
Footies is and always was better than DotA