Why does /v/ pretend this game is good?

I'm surprised it's not getting a remake before Strange Journey.

>>378022532
because muh Dante

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>>378022532
>(u)

Why are there so many SMT threads?

>>378022532
I dunno but you guys sure do like to talk about it a lot.
I saw it for 25 yurobucks in a shop.
Should I go for it or what. Never played any SMT/persona.

Cause its a solid JRPG with unique atmosphere seldom used nowadays.

>>378022532
>I was too pleb to like this game, this means that everyone else has the EXACT same personality and taste that I have, meaning everyone else just pretends to like the same game
Is this the true, unleashed power of autism?

>>378023040
Normalfags and casuals played P5 and wanted more; found out that other SMT games are actually good and are now having allergic reaction to it like the niggers they are.

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>>378022532
Why does /v/ pretend this game isn't good?

>>378023063
who knows?

>>378022532
It was the last smt game on an actual console, now that Persona is considered mainline, smtfags feel threatened.

>>378023063
If you're a fan of JRPGs and manly enough to accept MC death = game over, go ahead.

muh dignity

>>378023232
I thought this was a shop because of the Dante sticker

>>378022532

No pretending.

>>378022742

Japs didn't like Nocturne all that much. As far as mainline goes it's the least like any of the others.

Would love to actually hear reasons why this boring grindfest is even considered anything above average

Yes i have beaten it and i forced myself to beat it
No its not hard i remember persona 3 bosses that gave me more trouble than anything in nocturne

>>378025316
>he needed to grind
>"I-it's not hard...!"

>>378024593
What will you do now that you know that it's real?

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>>378025316

>grinding in SMT
Want to know how I know you're a faggot?

>>378025446
Didnt grind on purpose you just get attacked so often while trying to roam that you just become overleveled unless you always know where to go or have a shitton of repel bells

>>378025509
Again you get attacked pretty much all the time did you faggots even play the game? High demon encounter rates are a thing in smt games

>>378025187
>Japs didn't like Nocturne all that much

>despite the fact that enough brought it to the point they had to reprint more shipments

I never understand this "japs hated it" meme and in any case why would japan be a factor when the US always buy more copies Atlus shit?

>>378025726
>you get the Picasa demon that has estoma spell and encounter rates become nothing

>>378025750
Just because a lot of people buy it doesnt mean that they all liked it aswell i hate the sales argument so fucking much

>>378025869
Wow one demon that becomes useless after a few lebvel ups that sure is going to help with the abysmall encounter rates for like 2% of the total game thanks for the advice faggot its not even grinding if iam not doing it on purpose so fuck off with your grinding argument i know my shit when its about smt games and nocturne is easy casualized trash go play smt 2 you fucking casual

>>378022532

>play nocturne with /v/ a few years ago
>we go through the wonkiest path and complete fifth kalpa before diet building
>on hard mode

It's a great game but some of those dungeons are suffering. Carry the enemy avoidance item and use it when going to save or you're going to die and lose your 4 hours of progress since last save.

>>378026160
>smt 2
>hard
Alright anon. You can stop false flagging now. We all got our laughs.

Do the Us and jap version feature Dante too?

>>378026447
The jap one has Raidou i think

>>378025885
No but if a game is "hated" you wouldn't be having to ship more copies, there was no articles or polls saying japs hated it. You lot just came up with this bullshit because the later SMT titles sold more. DMC2 came out round the same era and that was game that got shitted on but you hear jack shit about nocturne and nips hating it.

>>378026501
That was a second remake.

>>378026406
Just wanna hear some arguments why nocturne is supposed to be good but without someone using the word challenging because if thats all this game has than you might aswell put strange journey on your top list

>>378022532
Why do people pretend any main line SMT game is good?

>>378023040
P5 got popular so now the SMT elitism is being overdone to the point of it becoming a caricature.

>>378026660
Because they're good.

>>378022532
I'm playing it right now(at the obelisk) and it IS good. It has a few issues but the atmosphere and gameplay are top notch

>>378026660
People just wanna have the persona gameplay without the time management and waifu shit crammed in there it was nice to see my character hit level 40 and my game time only being at 20 hours whereas in persona 5 it was at fucking 70 hours or something like that its refreshing to not have to scroll through a million logs of text

>>378026160
>Wow one demon that becomes useless after a few lebvel ups

You stupid fuck, the demon isn't meant to be used in battle and be in your inventory, the level of the demon has nothing to do with the effectiveness of the spell. The only way you're getting encounter rates conistently is if you're way to underleveled.

You clearly haven't played SMT2 if you think the encounter rates there are not way higher where you can't even move, they had to make a spell so you'll have no encounters through the whole dungeon because it was that bad

>>378026834
This

This is usually the best reason, we do not care for social links, we care for the story and atmosphere, choosing a side and a philosophy to stick with.

>>378026160
Weak bait. Try harder next time.

>>378026890
Well than...thanks for the tip i was just lying about beating nocturne iam at ikikuburo tunnel right now trying the get inside the manikin city and ive been stuck there for fucking days gonna get my picasa back now thanks anon

>>378025885
We're talking about SMT, a niche franchise when people bought the game, you know damn well they like it

>>378026890
The encounter rates in SMT2 are pretty good. You're probably thinking about SMT1 when you can't move and need estoma.

>>378022532

ummmm me me n o make pwetend!!!! me me always sewious about SMT one hundwed pewcent!!!!!! >O<

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How casualised will SMT HD be since they're probably gonna bank on P5's success and expect newfags.

>>378027326
They specifically make Persona for casuls

I thought of that too but after SMT IV and Final, I hope they will still make it for hardcore retards

>>378027326
Final is the hardest game game in the series combat wise, so probably not.

>>378026660
Because they are objective good.

>>378022532
Because the game meets you halfway by being good, so it's a very comfortable lie to tell.

>>378028947
What did he mean by this?

>>378028807
Only genuinely and well-designed hard part in Final is boss fights and the final dungeon

Rest are pretty braindead before Apocalypse's Agi penalty

>>378030483
what penalty? haven't played final yet

>>378022532
it's so epic hard xD im so hardcore lol dae dark souls?

>>378030483

Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Boss fights are where most of the challenge is supposed to come from. Dungeon crawling is a test of endurance.

>>378030992
Nah, in SMT exploring dungeon shouldn't be braindead shit, literally half the fun.

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It's fun, unique and has a good atmosphere. Not my favorite Megami Tensei game, but it's still great.

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>>378022532
It's pure kino.

>>378032819
I need more r63 demifiend in my life

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>>378032917
Ya sure about that?

>>378022532
Because it's difficult. Personally I think it's shit like all other dungeon crawlers but if someone likes dungeon crawler genre it's probably a good game for them.

>>378023175
Can confirm. I'm having so much fun purging demons with Megidos!

>>378025187
no
Japs didn't like Strange Journey
they liked Nocturne so much they remade it twice
and it allowed several spin-offs to be made after it

They're giving Strange Journey another go because it's a good game Atlus wants to give another shot before the 3DS ends it's lifespan

Because some of the people who played the game had fun and enjoyed, so they decided to talk about it.Because preferred ways to entertain yourself are completely subjective.
So notions of good and bad are completely imaginary.

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>>378033087
you bet I am

>>378030787

Apocalypse Mode has a -100 Agi penalty for your party.

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>>378033616
Buckle up.

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>>378033760
you're doing God's work anon

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Leave Persona and Sonyfags to me.

>>378022532
It has great atmosphere and gameplay. Honestly it's the only mainline SMT I actually like, the rest are all shit.

>>378027326
>all those dungeon """"""puzzles""""""" in P5

Legitimately made me upset, I too hope that they don't make SMT HD dungeons as brain dead

>>378030483
If your talking dungeon design than yeah Nocturne is better but the actual combat in those dungeons is harder in Final since buffs don't make or break a fight anymore. Just cast one Sukukaja and you can never lose even in hard more.

>>378034020
Because IV and IVA certainly had brain taxing puzzles, right?

>>378034020
I liked the one at the end of Okumura's Palace, even if it was too short, and the rest of them were inoffensive at worst and helped to vary the gameplay a little at best. I can't complain about them.

At the time of its US release it was pretty impressive. It also featured Dante from the Devil May Cry series which was a potentially big plus.

>>378034049
Mot

>>378034229
No, because they didn't even have proper dungeons, they should just stick to Nocturne style instead of whatever they were trying to do in IV/Apocalypse, or at least stick with the old dungeon crawling.

I'm still of the firm belief that Dante's appearance in Nocturne can at least fit into the timelines of both games
>Dante fucks off at the end of 2 into some portal
>Dante runs into Lucifer of SMT Land
>Tells him he can go home if he does that candelabra bullshit
>Goes home afterwards

>>378025316
>boring grindfest

you don't even need to grind. this was beaten at level 53 on the hardest difficulty. git gud

>>378034909
One of the easiest bosses in the series. He weak to electricity and never goes first. If you don't cast buffs and debuffs at the first few turns of course he's going to be difficult. He only continues his beast eye spam if you let him.

>>378035369
https://youtu.be/zIjVvnO5lgM

fuck you matthewmatosis I know you're in here

>>378035490
why is this video always posted? the guy is doing a low level challenge. doesn't represent the boss fight at all

>>378035490
Again, if you cast AGI and VIT buffs at the beginning of battle, this will never happend. He will always miss. He only uses Dekuna and not Dekaja so it's better to buff yourself or only debuff him to -2.

>>378025885

I promise, PROMISE you don't actually know whether or not Japanese gamers liked the game and are probably just parroting something you read on /v/ a few years ago.

>>378022532
Game is a corridor simulator with random battles every 5 steps. Atmosphere is great but level design and gameplay are beyond terrible.

>>378034229
>there will never be a remake of SMT IV and SMT IV:A all in one package with tons of branching points and a new route for krishna/maybe something else too that ditches the majority of demon realm find the door bullshit in favor of unique environments to scrounge through to make the whole game feel a lot longer than it really is sort of like how minimal effort overworld map of mikado would create an illusion of size much moreso than navigating a dropdown menu
JUST

>>378026160
>lebvel
Slow down, you angry faggot lol

>>378022532
hipsters

>>378023040
Persona 5 + contrarian SMT fag who want to take their time to shine and prove the masses how superior mainline his.

>>378027008
>philosophy to stick with.

I have never played a SMT game that gives any actual compelling philosophy(Nocturne/SJ/SMT4) that make me want to actually stick with it.

I usually just pick whatever feels the most appropriate, but please stop with this philosophy bullshit it's very superficial.

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>cant even control your own party members

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>all these SMTcucks hating Persona because le social links/waifushit
Just don't do them if you hate social links or romance that much. It's not like the game is forcing you to do them.

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>Finally trying this game because /v/ doesn´t shut the fuck up about it
>insert cd
>Ubisoft logo appears

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>>378034015
this is a meme thread now

>>378039841
you know nothing

>>378039841
I don't hate the Personas with social links just because they have them, but
>Just don't do them
What else are you supposed to do then? There isn't enough dungeon crawling in Personas 3,4 and 5 to keep you interested in the game if you avoid the social links.

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I just want more Devil Summoners already.

>>378026160
I've beat smt2 and nocturne and can say with certainty smt2 is mediocre garbage compared to nocturne. The first half of smt2 is nothing but boring fetch quests, and while the 2nd half is difficult it wasn't even fun or fulfilling in any way

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>>378041235
and more raidou please

>>378039841
The modern Persona games all gate their progression behind arbitrary dates, so there's nothing else to do unless you want to grind dungeons you've already been through.

>>378039841
their fanbase is JUST378016818

>>378041235
Are the DeSu and Devil Summoner world connected, I know Sakurai, and J. Carol can be seen bidding.

>>378041897

>>378016818 i meant

>>378041235
How's Sould Hackers? Setting seems to be ultra cool, I really love this late 90s setting.
Any other games that also have it beside P1 and P2?

>>378038374
Wrong game, retard.

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>>378042439
It's honestly my favorite, it's the most advanced version of classic SMT, 3DS version has lots of quality of life and speed improvements along with extra content.

The setting's great, the music's great, gameplay's solid, and the pacing is super fast. Game's only like 30 hours long, and then it has fantastic post-game dungeons and bosses.

I can't think of many games that have the same kind of setting though. It's really unique, with it being a 90's as fuck vision of a slightly futuristic cyberpunk Japan.

>>378027008
>philosophy
>main line cucks believe dis
Repeat that when the series stops making neutral ending the best ending and alignment heroes not retarded.

>>378042848
>It's really unique, with it being a 90's as fuck vision of a slightly futuristic cyberpunk Japan.
Damn, I really have a real hard-on for this type-of-setting. Are there some anime then with similar so-90s-it-hurts setting?

>>378043059
Evangelion, Akira.

>>378042848
>tfw when you hear Rei say one soul is fading
I knew this was coming from the start, yet it still hurts.

I want to marry FemDemi-Fiend.

>>378043465
Femmy Fiend

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Why was Finnegan so fucking cool?

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>>378042848
How's first Devil Summoner? Shame it wasn't localized, hopefully Atlus will bring a 3ds remake of it akin to Soul Hackers.

I like both SMT and Persona, and Niether are that hard once you understand the mechanics. Digital devil saga is better.

>>378043612
It's pretty good, though even the PSP version's still a bit rougher on gameplay. Negotiation's also not as good as Soul Hackers'.

It's more like an entire game set in pre-apocalypse SMT1.

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Hoy

>>378022532
It really isn't,it bored me to death honestly

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>>378044831
10 hours in paint

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>>378045538
Shit i could have cropped better

>>378045538
Bretty good

>>378022742

Having enjoyed SJ more than Nocturne I'm glad to see it's getting a remake. However I was surprised too considering Nocturne was the more popular game.

>>378027326
It will be easy like every last smt game. Auto fight to win.

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>>378039841
smtfags are super insecure, leave them be.
The only reason there smt threads now is thanks to Persona, as always. I think they are sad smt is no longer mainline.

>>378039841
Not liking Persona because you don't like the Confidants/S. Links is fair, it's just the ones that act like that's objectively bad game design because it tries something different that suits its setting very well that are retarded.

>smt threads don't talk about the supposed 'superior' gameplay
>they only talk about persona being bad

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>>378045750
I just wish 1 and 2 got remakes instead. Why they would remake a game that's already perfectly fine over one that would benefit greatly forma remake is beyond me.

>>378038134

None of the SMT games have compelling philosophies or even stories outside of the setting. These games are meant to be light hearted and a bit goofy from a narrative perspective.

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>>378046154
>this is what persona cucks b leave

Too bad TMS was an idol ultraweeb game. Gameplay was decent, upgrade system was pretty good, dungeon crawling was fine. Even had some DDS-style songs. Wouldn't even mind the weebness if the story was actually good.

>>378046434

Agreed but I'd still rather an SJ remake over Nocturne.

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>>378046790
>needing crossover to be relevant

>>378046790
I've seen this image like a dozen times now and I honestly don't know what it's suppose to mean.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhqz97a4jqU

>>378027326
As a person who hasn't played much animu garbage in his life, the right one looks like some generic weebshit that people use as their avatars on steam while the left one actually seems rather interesting

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>>378047305
>relevance is what makes a game good

:thinking:

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>>378047804
They're both rather interesting.

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best SMT game coming through

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>>378048253
I hope so.

>>378048084
gabriel is cute

You are now entering: Sector Grus

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>>378048695
Best angel

>>378048721
NO

>>378048084
>Barong x Rangda = ?

shiva?

>>378022532
why does your mother pretend to love you?

>>378048880
>teleports back to the beginning

>>378049228
Alright time to try sector Grus again

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>>378048841
Did someone ask for the best angel?

>>378046953
Yeah

Nocturne doesn't need unnecessary waifushit or terrible redesigns

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>>378050319

based

>>378050319
Go away Mastema

>>378048721
Grus was the most tiring sector of all. Eridanus got nothing on it,

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>>378050319
good goy

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>>378046790
People still don't know TMS is its own universe
Game could had been better, we really need another DDS
>>378046953
What changes would be bad for Deep Strange Journey (Other than characters, still waiting to see what is done with them)

>>378051921
the first one is a 3 years old wii u game ...

>stuck in the eternal hell that is the final dungeon in SMT4A
>probably have killed Mastema like 100 times

please god im fucking dying

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>>378051921
>Game could had been better, we really need another DDS
That would make no sense at all and would be completely unnecessary. What we need is another Raidou: featuring good combat, possibly from the Devil May Cry series.

>>378022532
Why do you think that disliking a game means it's bad?

It's entirely possible that you're just a butthurt bitchboy with shit taste.

>>378052295
YHVH's Universe wasn't so bad. It's big, but it's layout isn't so complex. Compared to Grus or The Sun it's the least frustrating dungeon ever created.

>>378052472
with demifiend as a guest character

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>>378022532
Why does /v/ pretend this game is good?

>>378052574
I think my main problem is how fucking boring it is. The Cosmic Egg was so much better, YHVH's Universe is just the same rooms over and over with no variation, usually with one-way traps to make you backtrack all the time. Most SMT final dungeons are usually pretty shit, but this one is in the purgatory realm of I can barely pay attention.

>>378052295
>Stumble through this dumb dungeon with little trouble, even backtrack to open doors I couldn't get through previously only to obtain worthless items
>Get to the final floor
>Every door either teleports you somewhere else in the room you're already in or teleports you halfway across the map
>All the teleporters go wherever they feel like
>Travel through this dumb area for two hours before I find out that the one set of stairs I didn't climb was the end of the dungeon
Well fuck me then.

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I just finished my very first SMT, SMT IV!
ama me anything

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>>378052675
Its good, 7.0, but it is only better than 1,2,13, and 14r
>>378052472
What we really need is a Devil Survivor 3

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>>378053923
I still haven't played Devil Survivor, is the dub really that bad? I was going to play it or Soul Hackers for my next SMT, but I'm not sure if I should get the undub or not. I'm also too much of a moralfag to hack my 3DS. So is the dub just not great,or is it genuinely awful?

>>378053905
Did you have fun?

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>>378054210
Thought the dub was good, except for Midori who is very annoying

>>378053905
What ending? White isn't right, for reference.

>>378054210
Dub is fine besides Midori

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>>378054557
Yes!

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>>378054650
First the Blackhole ending then the Neutral ending!

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>>378054678
Why are you posting women eating yogurt?

>>378034020
>Tfw Tokyo Mirage Sessions of all things has the best dungeons in the series

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>>378054871
I can post other things

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>>378053905
I beat my first SMT game a few days ago, Strange Journey. But I'm playing before fighting the boss 'cause I found out there's NG+ and want them sick rings.
>Neutral ending
>MISSION COMPLETE

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>that soundtrack that plays on the world map right before the last dungeon

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>>378056017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omYBbiD0idA
These games know how to do music right.

>>378023746
>manly enough to accept MC death = game over, go ahead
Yeah, that was shit, but the game is fucking good.

>>378033526
This thread and pic related smt has the shittiest fanbase.

Does Nocturne emulate well?

>>378023063
I like it a lot. Music's really good, most fights are interesting, and it has some modicum of challenge despite being a jrpg.

Has some frustrating bullshit, too, but no game is perfect.

>>378054210
Va is good for what it is.
Its my favorite smt.
Best story for implementing demon lore.
All of the bosses are rad as hell and have a nice twist to them.

>>378057671
i've played it for about 20 hours so far and it seems pretty good emulated

>>378057671
I had no trouble with it though i remember there was transparency issues with either dx11 or opengl

>>378022532
Got stuck on Fly Boss Beel-something
Need help

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>>378058039
>20 hours so far
casual

>>378058349
Equip null expel magatama.

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Who would win in a fight?

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>>378058475
>tfw you update pcsx2 and lose your savestates where you cleared the kalpa tombs for new game +

>>378059056
>savestates

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>>378058475
don't get me started on a dick waving contest, boyo. i've played nocturne so much on the ps2, it stopped counting my time. i'm just starting to emulate it so i can play the hardtype hack. which is pretty okay i guess. some bosses just feel like they've had their hp inflated needlessly but i do like the new full kagutsuchi encounters.

>>378022532
>amerifats couldn't deal with blue
>they get the super edgy RED AND BLACK version of the cover

>>378059149
>teleportation """"""puzzles"""""""

>>378059237

>>378059410
fuck sake
>>378059237
>i'm just starting to emulate it so i can play the hardtype hack. which is pretty okay i guess. some bosses just feel like they've had their hp inflated needlessly but i do like the new full kagutsuchi encounters.
Yeah I noticed it was a bitch to get the kalpa tombs down within the needed turns on hardtype so I switched over. The kapla encounters are pure sex on hardtype though fucking running into matador and all kinds of fuckers out of the blue

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>>378059586
>full kagutsuchi encounter in the kalpas
>oh, i wonder what is down he-
>demons starts playing

>>378058039
>>378058475
>>378059056
Whats the best version? Ive heard its been remade a few times

>>378060227
Nocturne USA version

I could never finish the game because I had a hard time remembering what spells did what when it came to fusions and generally didn't understand how important buffs/weaknesses were.

After playing Persona 5, my interests in III has returned. Currently playing Persona 3... will probably play SMT3 after I'm done with that.

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>>378060227
There's only one translated version. It's also more or less the best one, the only other one worth playing is the same but it has Raidou instead of Dante. Which you'd rather is down to preference but the one with Raidou isn't translated anyway so it's a moot point.

>>378060227
this>>378060416
Gotcher true ending, danny from diablo possible blubber and i may be retarded but i think the kalpas are exclusive to it or atleast they have and ending in this version

>>378060647
after a few hours ya get it eventually, ma- = many, -ga = powerful. Pretty sure theres an in battle help bar too

>>378054924
you're kidding me right? TMS has shitty dungeons with the only that backstage dungeon having a somewhat decent puzzle. They were barebones and honestly could had just used a randomizer like P3/4

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>>378058475
play some more

>>378060846
>TMS has shitty dungeons
you're fucking retarded

>>378061735
Explain how they were good.
Compared to DDS they were garbage.

Can someone give me a run down on SMT games? Like, what's the basic premise and what is the gameplay like.

>>378062050
shits fucked
kill yer friends kiddo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVwSZDXr5LU

>>378062050
JRPG
Known for their difficulty but if you aren't braindead you can get a fairly nice challenge.
Loads of customization.
Fight for "God", Lucifer or give them both the finger.

>>378062050
They're turn based RPGs. The premise is that either the apocalypse has already happened or you'll get to witness it happen, and from there you choose how the world will be reborn.

>>378022532
Persona is an incredibly boring game.

When I watch people play it on twitch it doesn't even seem like they like it themselves.

>>378062474
It's fine in its own way.
If you hate the game being 60% cut scenes then play 99% gameplay Nocturne.
Both fine games in different ways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5uT7fas-WE

>>378062050
Shit's already fucked, getting more fucked by the minute, and you can decide in what way it will be fucked in the end.

>>378062554
while they play it, it doesn't seem fun at all

>>378062554
the cut scenes seem to be the only good part actually

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>>378033526
>I DON'T WANNA TRY TO FIGHT THIS LOVE

>>378062724
Don't know what do tell you. If they aren't having fun then they aren't having fun. Can't tell you why they don't like it.
>>378062813
Merciless difficulty is nice but fuck some of the dungeons. You can just abuse ambush.

>>378061735
Name one good thing about them? They were barebone corridors with little to no character.

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>tfw I just got to Trumpeter

Jesus Christ, this is tough.

>>378022532
because it's weeb shit. a jap could piss in a weeb's cereal and he'd still love it.

>>378063206
Count the turns and use a weak demon as bait.

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>>378058475
>>378061657
>normal

>>378063206
toot

>>378063469
madman

>>378024593
Where do you think that that shit came from?

>>378063206
Pro tip, he always does something at the xth turn, count em and ready up your shit.

>>378063206
>trumpeter
>hard
It's literally a gimmick boss though. Just count and revive

>>378063340
>>378063756
>>378063781
Count? What am I a fucking mathemagician?

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>>378063469
As soon as I painstakingly redo the kalpa tombs again im gonna run through Hard mode on the Hardtype hack
also
>silver
I thought I was bad at coming up with names

>POST YOUR LUCIFER DEMON RAPE SQUAD

>>378063901
every 8 turns

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>>378063901
get dooted casual

>>378064004
>Dave
Pot, kettle, etc.
>all that macca
>grinding and/or cheating

>>378064264
>not selling your boipussi for macca
fool

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>>378064264
>>grinding and/or cheating
world of strength my friend

>>378064264
Well in fairness I forgot demi fiends gook name and settled for my own, when prompted for a nickname I was confused as I dont have one and put my short name and now it gets used it fucking everything and makes me mad since its my dads name so its jarring

>grinding and/or cheating
you bet your ass i used cheatengine man I was at the end of the game by level 64 roughly and wanted Beelzebub and Metatron since everyone cums over them but even with peirce theyre just normal boring demons with great immunities and I couldnt afford shit the entire game no way am I gonna pay for resummoning demons because I cant figure out the fusing abilities shit

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>>378064787
>I cant figure out the fusing abilities shit
should have used this

>>378027060

Or fuse an Oni. He has Estoma too.

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>>378064787
Failure of a demon.

>>378065089
Yeah I found out about that right when I got metatron and had trouble figuring out how to get my skills onto him, became a matter of fusing down 3 gens of demons and carrying up skills to metatron I think

>>378065194
>not even level99+
top pleb do you even punch god?

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post best demonbros

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>>378065374
>grinding
>using cheatengine
>on normal
you wouldn't even graze YHVH

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>>378065538
Definitely not that moth bastard.

>>378065832
look at his skills

>>378022742

wait, is DSJ a remake or sequel to SJ?

I'm about to finishe SMT IV and move on to IV:A. if DSJ is a sequel then i'll probably play SJ next but if its a remake then i'll just play nocturne instead and then DSJ

>>378065972
It's Maniax SJ

>>378065940
Mothman is still a shit

>>378065972

It's like Record Breaker and Overclocked: HD sprites, voice acting, new ending...

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>>378066124
delet

>>378023040
Because it is the alternative "hardcore" JRPG franchise that /v/ latched onto that isn't Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest.

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>>378065734
>magic fag
lmao hows that damage cap

>>378065089
Metatron's face reminds me of Brent Spiner.

>>378063206
>Never learned the Trumpeter gimmick
>Wrecked him on hard on my first try
What ever nerds.

>>378066605
>wasting slots on deathbound and deadly fury
>megidolaon instead of bolt storm
>can't recognize I'm not playing vanilla Nocturne
Oh I am laughing.

>>378066605
>might
Fucking useless. Thats only for normal attacks

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>>378042848
i just realized that the online setting is fucking vaporwave years before all the memes

sequel never

>>378066605
>no endure
and you call yourself a physicsfag

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>>378067137
why does jonathan remind of that teacher hoe from P5?

>>378066853
>wasting slots on deathbound and deadly fury
Ya got me on deathbound but deadly fury is ok for groups and high crit rate
>megidolaon instead of bolt storm
High damage and cant be blocked unlike bolt storm on lighting immune enemies
>can't recognize I'm not playing vanilla Nocturne
Theres no way I could recognise magic skills I went from gaia to masakados with little variation, my demons handled magic for me

>>378066937
For real? fuck

>>378067223
>dying
nah but I got my info on skills from a gamefaqs guide and I do regret my fuck all damage outside of friekugel in hindsight, maybe javelin rain is in hardtype?

>>378067607
>For real? fuck
Yes unfortunately

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>>378067137
i have a queer feeling for jonathan (no homo though)

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>>378067443
makoto also kinda resembles isabeau

>>378067607
javelin rain is shit

Soul Hackers is superior to this game in many ways. Only thing Nocturne has over it is a better OST and Dante.

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have I gone too far?

>>378067874
no, maximize his luck with mitamas

>>378067861
Turn Press is pretty awesome

>>378067956
do you really think that is the face of luck?

>>378067814
Are there skills that arent shit? I kinda brute forced my way with lunge and focus for 75% of the game

>>378067607
>deadly fury is ok for groups and high crit rate
It's pointless when you have gaia rage and that slot could go to something better.
>High damage and cant be blocked unlike bolt storm on lighting immune enemies
it's high mp cost shit damage and doesn't proc shock and hit rangda's weakness like bolt storm does.

>>378068173
deadly fury
gea rage
frememiel
deathbound

>>378068173
deathbound, deadly fury, gaia rage for AoE
lunge, divine shot, spiral viper, freikugel for single target

then for magic coverage
force < ice < fire < electric
on hardtype magma axis with a passive boost is the most damaging single target attack in the game

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>all these loser not playing the real hard mode
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3299/

Kek. You fags don't even live in a world of STR.

>>378069293
i was scared to not finish the game ok?

>It's pointless when you have gaia rage and that slot could go to something better.
oh right I forgot about that, still I hated using it sometimes due to the high HP usage
>it's high mp cost shit damage and doesn't proc shock and hit rangda's weakness like bolt storm does.
I never use magic on my MC so that was never a problem mp wise, vanilla magic isnt much to write home about from what my magic demons could do and I am pretty sure peirce goes through rangdas deflect phys doesnt it? either way I had some strategy when I farmed in the ToK3

>>378068354
>deadly fury
>>378068354
>gea rage
Yep bretty good
>frememiel
Ya mean freikugel? Goes without saying its as important as focus
>deathbound
cant be bothered to look but an anon earlier bullied me for having it

>>378069106
>deathbound, deadly fury, gaia rage for AoE
>lunge, divine shot, spiral viper, freikugel for single target
Are these in order to get because some people said deathbound and deadly fury were shite
>then for magic coverage
>force < ice < fire < electric
got it elec is king
>on hardtype magma axis with a passive boost is the most damaging single target attack in the game
Will definetly do this thanks anon

>>378069434
deathbound is my favourite fuck off ability for normal encounters because of the fast animation it has

>>378035490
>Guy trying to beat hard mode at the lowest level possible shows the game is ballcrushingly difficult
Mot was easy as fuck dude, even easier in P5

>>378043576
Because he fights you in a fucking JRPG mirror match
The dude used my demons way better than I ever did, made me feel like a huge bitch

>>378046434
They already have been remaked 2 times both, in PS1 and GBA

pssst, hey kid, you got a life stone?

I want to pew pew guns. What game is the best for a DEX character?

>>378069293
I posted my end game hardtype build in this thread faggot. Try reading it before you say stupid shit.

>>378069604
Its not bad but gaia rage is not far off it especially is the emulators on turbo mode, shits so smooth youll think you hit slomo when you turn it off
fucking nearly ruined my enjoyment at the end of the game

Fucking captcha wont let me post

>>378070824
4

>>378070824
IV

I went Magic for my first character and I had 6 different spells, Concentrate and Salvation. What does a Dex or a Str character look like? Like, you don't really need 6 different Gun spells right? You'd just need a single target, hit all and severe hit all, yeah?

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>>378065538
you're a faget

>>378070906
Only you. Everyone should try it. It makes Nocturne much more enjoyable.

>>378022532
Why is there Frodo Baggins on the cover? Is that LoTR video game?

>>378071423
Honestly if there's one thing Hardtype does amazing more than anything else it's making you go all the way up to level 99. I loved how in apoc you ended the game in the high 90s, because then you could actually fuse the endgame demons, instead of having to grind for them in every other SMT and turning the game into a joke

>>378071403
>Soul drain
>Not critical eye
no you are the faget

>>378071840
>crytical eye when it has bloody glee
fucking retard. Also Phys pierce is gonna go in that slot faget

>>378071403
I never ran into a Fiend when I played SMT IV and I feel liked I missed out...

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>>378067137
>i just realized that the online setting is fucking vaporwave years before all the memes

It's just called "90s web design".

The weirdest thing about Soul Hackers is that it feels incredibly modern but only came out three years after SMT2. That was just the power of the Sega Saturn I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ywll-f0RXA

>>378072078
Well, that's Final.

Also, most people didn't run into a fiend in IV, don't worry. The only ones who did have extreme luck or extreme autism

>>378071979
you do know that critical eye also makes it so the next attack never misses which is fucking useful with andalusia which never hits all of its attacks
also once critted you will then no doubt smirk making sure to charge up and makes the next attack even more stupidly powerful
basically bloody glee is the useless skill

>>378022532
It's pretty good compared to.most jrpgs and their braindead combat.

>>378039841
>don't do social links
That's literally impossible. Fuck off dumbass

>>378067861
>Soul Hackers is superior to this game in many ways

Not it isn't souls hackers is garbage outside of side content, letting a setting blind you from how shit the main content is

>>378071423
>It makes Nocturne much more enjoyable.
It's a fucking grindhouse with the insane HP buff the modder gave everything. It's fucking absurd that random trash mobs can take a focused freikugel.

>>378072547
>fucking grindhouse
The creator lowered shop prices, gave demons in the stock natural exp gain, and more. He made the game less grindy, if anything, and makes you rely more on strategy, so not every boss is just the same pattern of 'buff, debuff, hit with strongest attacks, enemy uses dekunda, repeat'.

>enemies shouldn't be able to take a focused freikugel
Oh no, random encounters are actually a challenge on what's supposed to be a high difficulty mode? The horror!

do you get to fight yhvh in nocturne?

>>378073726
No, you fight a disco ball.

>>378073726
Nah, you fight a disco ball.

>>378073726
Yeah, but only on the remake for the switch

>>378073726
No, you fight a disco ball.

>>378073843
>>378073847
>>378073858
>>378073943

for fuck sake atlus

>>378072260
>what is draconic reaction
stopp embarassing yourself

>>378073284
Scrubs shouldn't be able to tank one of the most powerful attacks in the game, that's just artificial difficulty

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WHERE IS IT?
ANSWER ME GIDEON

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>>378073726
You fight his avatar which is a disco ball that turns into a face.

By the way guys, what is the deal with IV/IVA? In Nocturne, the Great Will is YHVH. Lucifer says he is its creation and Metatron serves it. But in the 3DS titles, YHVH is just a rogue avatar of the Great Will and it itself seems to be a decent being. Is it all just a retcon?

>>378074349
Kagutuschi ≠ YHVH

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>>378046154
This
SAD!

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>>378075219
IT'S NOT FAIR
FUCKING PERSONA CHADS
EYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

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>>378075059
Kagoot is stated to be an avatar of the great will. But the great will itself in nocturne is YHVH.