SFV

But I don't.

Because its a fun competitive game
less bullshit than the other fighters

I don't, I went back to 4.

I was close to pulling the trigger on release, but I'm glad I didn't. The support for it just sucks at this point. I'm just playing Tag 2 in preparation for Early 2017 next week.

>>378013738
You the german guy that was playing 4 recently?
You have far more serious things to worry about than "bullshit".

>>378013675
Because it's the least shitty fighting game when it comes to online besides Fightcade and Skullgirls, and the least dead among fighters. If Guilty Gear and KOF's PC versions had more people playing and weren't input-dropping slomo fests online, I'd be all over those.

>>378013675
I don't i stopped playing after rootkit and have 0 desire to play.

I had close to 2000 hours in USF4 btw.

SFV is straight up trash and the only reason people play it is because of money and the sheer laziness of having to learn another fighting game.

I only play SP and local with friends.

Made a mistake buying it. But at least I get the latest update and just have to edit the save file to unlock everything

>>378013675
Because it's fun.

>>378013675
I'm bought it so that maybe one day they have enough money to make the next Fire Emblem game.

>>378015939
Fun is not a legitimate reason to enjoy something you fucking autist.

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>>378016042
>Fun is just a buzzword.
t. autist anon

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>>378013675
i do it for her

>>378013675

I already uninstalled.

Even if I was good at fightan the netcode and balance are dogshit. No reason at all to play this game

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Because I'm a Super Diamond Juri who really loves his wife more than anything else.

Also the netcode is amazing, any of you fags play during beta? There was no lag, rollback, or d/c's. Why? Because the game was being hosted off stable PSN servers, not shitty first timer Capcom servers that are unoptimized and run like shit.

>>378018409
im trying to learn juri but iam so used to ibukis b mp as an anti air that i always eat the jump ins with juri because only her elbow comes out... i hate breaking habits like that

i dont know, i fucking hate this game yet i dont stop, probably cuz i want to say that i dont suck.
i guess i like ibuki, juri, and i really like kolin too cuz shes the only good addition that sfv has in terms of characters

I don't.

I'll pick it back up if they add Sagat or Makoto, though.

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>>378013675
>implying

I go in maybe once a month into practice - do a few combos, then just quit out due to sheer apathy.

I don't like any of the new characters so I stopped playing. I should get back into it but the game gets very stale.

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But I don't.

I play

Mahvel 3 - Faster, more characters, more supers, more movement
3s - More supers, better characters, parry or die
KOF XIV - More characters, more supers, more movement options

It's sad because as bad as V is, IV was still worse.

>>378013675
its fun.

>>378014549
sounds like you were just too lazy to learn SFV after 4 desu.

>>378021168
nice try but im super platinum birdie.

>>378018557
lol

https://twitter.com/CoreAGaming/status/862932238945599488

Because I like it and love to play Mike Bisonte.

The funny thing is that I used to ask the same question to IVtards back when IV-apologists didn't exist.

>>378013675
Because I enjoy playing it and the things it does poorly are mostly things I consider irrelevant like single player.

>>378021297
>super platinum
lmao

>>378021443
unless your winning events you're no better than him

Fightingfags are the most obnoxious and insufferable beings on this planet.
While I do agree the game is hot garbage, when I see people bitching about balance on every single patch because "muh aerials muh footsies muh zoning muh X character" you just know that there is literally nothing they can do to please you.

It's embarrassing really, almost sounds like Stockholm syndrome with you people.
Fighting games are a shit genre for this very reason.

>>378013675
Its all i have untill mahvel comes out, and grapplers are somewhat enjoyable in this shitpile

>>378021443
CFN? I bet i could trash you even though i haven't played in months.

https://cdn.capcom-unity.com/capcom-unity.com/user/harrisony/street_fighter/may_reminder/4a405ac83d7fd6b021194a6dad484082.gif?v=71200
ayyy

>>378022141
What the fuck is this?

>>378022141
wft vega is getting a stage buff with his regular buffs

>>378022248
lol, look at that kid

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>>378022141
get the fuck outta here

>>378013675
I don't even know why I still have it installed. The only good thing SFV did, was to make me learn 3s.

>>378013738
>less bullshit than the other fighters
Is SFV your first fighting game? One day you will see how messed up the basics of SFV are.

>>378022141
lmao

>>378022838
>One day you will see how messed up the basics of SFV are.
>make me learn 3s.
LMAO

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Because Birdie is the most fun I've ever had with a grappler
>strong neutral buttons
>can play keep away
>Second most damaging command grab in the game
>most damaging command grab in the game while in trigger
>good punishes with bull head confirms
>nobody ever expects ex dolphin dive
>YAY-HO
I just need to work on getting my v-trigger out more in matches

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>Get good with Urien in S1
>Gets jacked up in s2
>Probably going to be gutted on the 30th
>Only other characters I enjoy are Kolin and Akuma which I'm shit at

M-maybe Ed will be fun.

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>>378022141
panic

>>378023002
Urien will still be really strong.

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Because in spite of it's flaws it still plays like a Street Fighter game and I have fun playing it and being a part of the community.

If it had never came out and we were still playing Ultra we'd all be complaining just as fucking hard about all the dumb as fuck huge problems that game had too. It's just the Zelda cycle. The game will inevitably improve, as they always have with updates.

>>378013675
only played solo 5mn a week for the 5000 fm challenge and couch with friends on the weekend but now that i have injustice 2 and soon tekken and guilty it's over for street

>>378023002

Urien is going to be just as strong as he is now, his "nerfs" are virtually cosmetic.

t. Someone who got to diamond with Urien

>>378016143
ignore autist anon, fun is a great reason to enjoy a game

however it's not a good justification of why you play the game, why do you find it fun specially? what is good about it that makes it fun?

>>378022838

You do know 3S is the least SF game there is right?

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>>378021443
>>378021965
exposed

>>378013675
i tried but even on casual people are rage quitting so nope, not touching this turd more

>>378023532
shut up nigger real news coming
http://www.capcom-unity.com/harrisony/blog/2017/05/25/the-new-capcom-fighters-network-arrives-may-30-alongside-monthly-targets-ed-and-an-all-new-spain-stage

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Balrog

Turn Punch

Level 1 - 6 Motion: Added throw invincibility for frames 1-18F.

Level 1 - 3 Motion: Changed to upper body and projectile invincibility from frames 3-18F.

Level 4 - 6 Motion: Changed to attack and projectile invincibility from frames 3-18F.

Level 7 - 10 (Final) Motion: Changed to complete invincibility from frames 1-18F

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>release new monthly target goals for fight money
>only 2017 Premier Pass© users get to do them

once again, fuck you capcom

>>378023714
good thing he's gonna have 25 less hp huh

that outta do it

>>378023002
>muh cr. mk is getting nerfed (-2 on block oh noes)
>muh ex tackles is getting nerfed (-2 on block and less push back as well)
>muh ex head butt is getting nerfed (25f on recovery)

does every urien just yolo everything?

Juri's moveset looks so boring. She has rushed for season pass written all over her face.

>>378018409
New juri's moves are shite. I want her pinwheel kicks back, her dive kicks and ultra 2.

>>378023714

I don't get it, isn't this how TAP already works? TAP isn't even the fucking problem with that stupid character.

>>378024193

She still has her pinwheels dude.

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>>378023714
>fully invincible 50% + on block move

>>378024294
They do not function the same at all.

>>378024471

>combo enders and anti-airs

Look the same to me dude.

>>378024523
That's like saying if Ryu's hadouken was shot upwards at an angle and dropped off, that is somehow the same.

>>378025086

No it doesn't you literal retard. In 4 it was a combo ender that could end with standing pressure or a knockdown, an anti-air and a reversal. Turns out it also does all these things in 5 too. To say they don't function the same isn't even CLOSE to true.

The move is virtually functionally identical. An air fireball and a normal fireball are not fundamentally the same thing.

>>378025227
That is again wrong. Go do the move in 4 and show me her attack that visually looks and functions the same in 5.

Name calling is an admission of ignorance.

>>378022141

MEMBER STREET FIGHTER 2?

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>>378023032

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>>378025421

Yeah the dude you're talking to is a fucking idiot.The hit-boxes, spacing, and travel arc of the move varies greatly between IV and V.

>>378025421

light pinwheel looks and functions the same. Every other pinwheels also functions almost identically, the only visual difference is that she flies up into the air, they still serve the exact same purposes they did in 4.

What is your CFN? I want to understand what kind of person I'm having such a stupid argument with. Don't worry, you don't have to play me.

>>378024193
Fuck I really miss those dive kicks. Really helped me a lot when I first started playing. Her old ult was way better than the stupid flip kick shit we have now
Why did they do this
Gimme my dive kick back Capcom you fucks

>>378013675
Because Tekken isn't out yet.

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>>378025545

>>378013675
I dont i even sold my ps shit and bought a switch

>>378025627
>>378025421

Every time people dodge here, without exception. I didn't even want to play you dude, no need to be so scared. I'm gonna go to sleep now but if you're try and talk some retarded shit in my absence about stuff you clearly don't understand remember to post that CFN.

Have fun!

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>>378026237
This.
Just playing something until T7 comes out and can play my boy, Kazuya.

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>>378026712

Is it too late to start playing or will I be miles behind everyone?

>>378028591
Not too late at all. Game is only in its second year. I just bought it myself and am getting into it.

>>378028591
dont support this game, get guilty gear of tekken, fuck even injustass is preferable

>>378029137
Injustice is not preferable. It's fine if he gets GG or tekken though.

>>378028591
If it's your first fighter be prepared to lose a lot at first.

>>378013675
It's fun and I don't get my opinions from the internet.

>>378013675
It's fun. Still wish they'd add arcade mode, though

>>378028591
Just wait for the evo sale and you'll fight retards

So are these changes good or bad?
http://www.capcom-unity.com/harrisony/blog/2017/05/25/the-new-capcom-fighters-network-arrives-may-30-alongside-monthly-targets-ed-and-an-all-new-spain-stage

>>378029137
Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, KoF and MK/Injustice have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve, furthermore many combos can be done simply by hitting 1-button, and the nearly "instant-kill" rage art moves are just laughably broken. Instead of a supplying a proper fighting engine, matches in T7 seem to rely heavily on "who can get their rage move off first". So many elements of the gameplay don't even require any sort of skill. In my book, slow motion over and over again also gets old very quickly. And in the end, it's more of a novelty or gimmick rather than an actual, thought-out fighting game mechanic. But hey, the casual crowd will be pleased!

If you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.

>>378023456
The complainers chalk it off as a negative, but I enjoy the fact that rushdown is encouraged. Also that defense isn't as mindless as in previous iterations. Plus, SFV has my favorite versions of two of my favorite characters in the entire series (Akuma and Juri).

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>>378022141
>WAAAHHH THIS SUCKS MAKE IT MORE LIKE SF2
>Alright, sure. Have this.
>WAAAHHH FUCK THIS PANDERING
Are you people unironically retarded?

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>Capcom putting actual dev work into REMEMBER STREET FIGHTER 2!?
>Balrog got fucking buffed
>Targets are only available for Premier Pass 2017 owners
>no other balancing made besides negligible Dhalsim changes

As someone who has been committed since the betas, I think I'm done with this game. Fuck it, I'm playing GG.

>>378013675
waiting for UNIST in june

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>>378030921
>I'm playing GG.
Nobody is playing GG.

Neither you nor anybody else.

>>378030920
>/v/ is one person
Also anyone saying SFV should be more like SF2 is retarded

>>378031038
This has been voiced all over the place, not just on /v/.

>muh world warriors

>>378013675
>Why do you still play this?
I boot it up every couple weeks to get easy FM, but nothing is really driving me to play. Which is unfortunate considering Birdie is a godsend to me in character design and style. Amazing normals aside, it drives me nuts taking him online against Urien's, Balrog's, and competent Akuma's.

>>378030223
they dont seem to be changes at all, just corrected patchnotes from Season 2.

>>378016143
>Uses my image
God bless you, anon.

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>people still play fighting games
Yeah i remember when i was a 90s kid too. Grow up.

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>>378022141
>stage looks great
>people complain
>people don't like new characters
>people don't like callbacks either
Nothing will satisfy you fags anymore, won't it?

>>378031146
Birdie has decent matchups against all of those.

Its the Dhalsims and Guiles that ruin you.

I stopped when IJ2 came out, and I gonna drop that when Tekken 7 comes out

>>378022978
>I just need to work on getting my v-trigger out more in matches
And decent combo leaves room for a safe trigger execution with him. What's the issue?

>>378031346
Don't you have a Maximilian video to like?

>>378031223
Oh never played Rog so I wasn't sure.

>>378031272
its just /v/ posers who dont play fighting games at all.

reception for Ed has been pretty positive and looking at multiple fighting game discords people like that vega stuff too.
most are just concerned about it being banned.

fuck it, im tired of being a character mainer
im just going to pick a top tier
here i come balrog

>>378031393
I thought that faggot was on KI's dick.

>>378031291
Decent match up's don't mean shit in some online settings, anon....especially SFV's network.

>>378031401
meant for
>>378031216

>>378031393
Huh?

>>378031506
He pretends to like whatever is the new shit right now. Or whoever slipped him a cheque last.

>>378024063
Why do you think people play Urien?....

>>378031517
not that much of an issue for me desu.
online makes it harder for them to react to dolphins too.

>>378031272
>don't like callbacks
I LOVE callbacks and fanservice, anon...But part of me doesn't want every new stage that isn't behind a CPT paywall to just be a classic stage. World build a bit...give the DLC characters a unique stage or something.

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I'm just here waiting for Makoto for the SFM guys to make nude mods with a hairy pussy and asshole, and footjob animations

>>378031584
some just like muscle men in diapers

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>>378031678
That's disgusting.

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>>378031693
>muscle men in diapers

>>378024063
Didn't this bring LTG to tears? That shit was hilarious.

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>>378031856

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>>378031829
You know you want it, babe

>>378031506
He would, but he knows he gets a fraction of his viewership if
he plays KI. (It's a shame, because KI is my second favorite fighting game this gen, right behind KoF.)

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>>378032194
Makoto is pure.

>>378030569
You've never played a Tekken game before, have you?

>>378032383
its copy pasta dont reply

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>>378032243

>(Right behind KOF)

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH NIGGAAAAAAAAAAA


So glad to see someone else know what the actual best FG of this gen is.

What're your teams?

I got

K'
Angel
Vanessa

Robert
Rock
Luong

Yuri
Ryo
Vanessa

I also play and mix and match like 7 other characters. I upload combo vids and set-ups. I love KOF XIV, it's fucking amazing.

>>378032492
Make your own thread if you want to discuss Chinese knockoffs.

>>378032454
That's either new, or I've been away from here longer than I thought

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>>378032607

Why? so you SF-shits can invade it and talk about your dead e-sports 50/50 Balrog garbage?

I got a better idea. Suck a fart out of my ass then get cancer and send me a pic of yourself on chemo so I have something to rub one out to every night before I go to sleep.

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>>378032308
Pure feet to rub my dick on

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>>378032809
It would still be more enjoyable than playing KoF.

But at least you willingly admit to coming into these threads to start shit.

>>378031865
He did make a video about it but if anything it showcased how at least to a degree he's just playing a role and not being 100% serious. He was all like "but urien is a GOD, how can you make him mid tier, he deserves to be on top"

But yeah Urien really had those nerfs coming. I don't usually bitch about characters being too strong in any game but Urien is so dominating it's not even funny. When you play just about perfectly but then he does random ex tackles into aegis, you guess wrong on two 50/50s and die, like you can't even be mad or anything it's just, oh, wow, guess that round is over...?

>>378033108
I think his biggest strengths are the range on his normals and how good his standing standing hp is.

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>>378033037


Hey, you fucking illiterate context-blind idiot. This entire thread was started to bash SFV. Look at the OP's topic text. No one asks "Why do you still play this?" actually asking for legit reasons. They've already made up their minds about the objective reality that SFV sucks.

So please have that chemo pic ready, I'm about to cum.

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>>378033470
Sure thing, sweetie. And when you rub your tiny pencil dick, remember that from now on I will come into every GG thread I see just to annoy you.

:^)

Because there's nothing better on PC. All other fighting games are dead, and Injustice 2 isn't coming out no time soon.

>>378033305
Yeah, he's a neutral monster too, but having that in top of the ridiculously damaging setplay is just too much. It's like he barely has weaknesses to speak of. So ex tackles no longer being free, cr.mk going from +2 to -2 (!) and the reversal being less finnicky to bait and punish, that's very very welcome. Didn't think they would have the balls to go that hard on the nerfs even.

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>>378033612

GG thread? Wow you truly are fucking stupid. I've been talking about KOF. GG is trash and YRC's are the fire coming out of the top of the trash barrel. Game has nice tits though.

Now kindly do what Mr. Talbain is telling in my pic and shhhhhh before you make the other posters in this thread as dumb as you are.

>>378033798
>and Injustice 2 isn't coming out no time soon.
and when it does it'll be a mess

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>>378033983

Oops, wrong furry pic. :3c

>>378033983
>>378034072
>furry
>SNKUCK
>faggot
>retarded
>degenerate
Checks all the boxes.

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>>378034187

Yet a furry still has better reading and contextual skill than you do. You might wanna try harder in life, friend.

>>378033983
>SNKUCK busy shitposting instead of playing
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Honestly can't remember the last time i lost to a urien. All you gotta do is just neutral jump all day.

>>378033914
I'm really glad it happened though, fighting Urien with Nash was always a problem for me, but at least now I can punish some shit.

>>378034310
Why try harder? I'm already #1.

Meanwhile, you're shilling a dead game. :^)

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>>378034413

And you're shilling a terrible game. :3c People who just care about a game's popularity can be zeroed out immediately as having a shit opinion. This is /v/ though, so I guess I don't know what I was expecting.

I mean fuck, people in this thread are still complaining about Urien of all people. El Oh El.

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I want to like SFV so bad but...

I don't like any of the characters.
I don't like to play online.
Even if I play the game offline at my locals it's still a pain.
I don't even enjoy winning at this point.

I just want to have fun, and the game won't let me have any.

>>378018409

Respect for you Sir

For as many strong Juri's I've seen more often than not people just bitch about her changes in 5.

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>>378013675

I don't play it all the time, hell sometimes a week or two will go by between times I do play it.

I guess like most people I'm curious to know who the remaining dlc characters are to see if it will spark new interest

Dunno why they're keeping them secret.

Akuma was sort of a given but it feels like Kolin and Ed were only added in because they had models already. To me its bullshit for them to call two characters who -already appear in the game- 'new characters' and make them playable.

>>378036073
>but it feels like Kolin and Ed were only added in because they had models already.
Shut up you dont know what you're talking about

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Who here /Vega+SpainStage/?

Can't wait to fuck with people.

>>378036490
i'm not playing on BANNED, NOT OFFICIAL CPT ® stage.

>>378021654
Name a multiplayer game that actually pleases /v/.

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>>378035082

>don't liek any of the characters

Yup. I jizzed at the first mention of Urien but he just feels sooooo shitty and slow compared to how he was in 3s. That backdash is so fucking clumsy and awkward for a literal produced demi-god of athleticism.

>don't like to play online

Yup. Online in just about any game is trash and trains your reactions and tactics incorrectly.

>playing games at locals a pain

Tournament scenes are just full of douche bags and tier whores. I'll agree it sucks but that's just how it is. Turns out a hobby full of tard and autists tend to have a lot of them turn out at related events.

>don't even enjoy winning at this point

Yup. Games feel so laggy and bulky and slow I never feel like I made a good read. I just feel like my lucky crush counter netted me a dumb win. I mean I'll take it.. but it isn't any fun.

>>378036073

They keep them secret to "build up hype" despite the fact that no one outside the core scene cares anymore. Not that getting a new character in SFV is all that much content to begin with. You get 6 buttons + command normals, a few specials, 1 v-skill, 1 super, 1 v-trigger.

Meanwhile KOF gives you 4 normals, command normals, 2 regular supers, 2 MAX supers, and a Climax. I have DLC packs for both SFV and KOF and even though KOF's only had one DLC pack it kicks the shit out of both seasons of SFV's so far.

>>378031378
I'm used to playing balrog and using it more offensively, which Birdie can only do in very specific situations

>>378031407
I do get Ed is some sort of Claw + Bison + Boxer mash up, but his design is pretty shit.
Newcomers are shit with FANG being the only exception. Old folks redesign is shit too.
Do you know who liked that shit? Fucking NeoGaf.

>>378013675
I dont play it ^^

>>378036989
oh no neogaf liked thing we must all hate it now
what goes through your mind when you make a garbage post like this?

The game has some problems, but I enjoy it, feel confident enough in my ability to play it online.

While with Guilty Gear or even Marvel, and to a lesser extent, KoF or Blaz; while I like playing those with my friends casually, I know I'd get blown up online.

I'll probably play some Tekken when that comes out too, and I'd probably have put some hours into DOA5 if they didn't screw over the PC port.

>>378024193
>>378024146
She really is. If I knew she was going to be changed this much for sf5 I would have never gotten the game. She feels like a new character.

Maybe I'm masochistic. I have fun when the game doesn't fuck me over but with the type of characters in the high and top tiers that doesn't happen very often.

I want some fucking depth again, so i've moved on to other fighters

>>378013675
I tried to get into it, I really did, but it just wasn't that fun.

Maybe I'm a complete shitter, but it felt like most of the game was mindgaming wakeups

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>>378037278

SFV's execution barrier is super super low compared to those other games. Combos are short, to-the-point, and for the most part lacking in variation wrt optimization.

There's simply not as much to practice or get good at. That's why you feel like you can win online. Not dogging on you for liking it but it is a way more simple game.

>>378023427
Just nerf ex tackle pleese, literally all i ask

>>378037713
this is pretty accurate, it's also why it's so easy for so many people in SFV's early lifespan to have pocket characters, multiple ones at times

>>378037713

>There's simply not as much to practice or get good at.

I mean, that's not entirely true. Most of the practice is just dedicated to oki and setups now.

SF was never an execution heavy series in the first place.

>>378038053
you don't really have to practice oki or setups either, the buffer even makes those easier. A lot of SFV is just, I hit him with this, i can do dash up into (move). Characters like Necalli just do this off literally everything, you don't really have to practice it, you just have to know it

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>>378036989
>Newcomers are shit with FANG being the only exception.

>>378036989
>FANG being the only exception
Fucker how do you not like Rashid

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>>378038053

You can hold the opinion that SF was never execution heavy but it's a pretty dubious one. Parries and combos in 3s had some fairly tight timing and required practice.

Frame perfect 1FL FADC shit in IV (as much as IV sucked ass) took a ton of practice. You also had to practice set ups for Ultras, Supers, and Focus Attacks in general.

You also had to practice oki and set ups in those games, but they had all that on top of it. In V you have none of those extra features. After you get down your 1 or two optimal combos then there's nothing else to practice beyond basic shit like learning punishes.

>>378038263

>you don't really have to practice oki or setups either, the buffer even makes those easier.

You have to figure out options that cover all 3 wake-ups, which is something I guess.

The thing that really makes SF5 oki game braindead is a throw loop. Experienced players are going to eat that shit over and over again because the risk-reward for teching is totally fucked.

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>>378037221
>>378038282
Hold up. So you actually like weeb tier characters like Kolin but don't like a proper Street Fighter weirdo like FANG?
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>>378038846
Most characters don't have those anymore and those that do only have it in the corner.

People talk about the lowered execution barrier being bad in SFV but I think it's super refreshing. New players aren't going to spend months committing 1f shit to muscle memory and new players are needed to keep fighting games alive. Additionally, the new execution is going to stall the onset of my carpal tunnel from what FADC did to my hands.

Lowering the skill floor while allowing the skill ceiling to gravitate around the same fundamental concepts (AAs, punishes, hit confirms, neutral, oki, setups, matchups) is a good thing.

It's fun. At least until my opponent realizes that they can't beat me normally and starts spamming throws. And my options are to either eat throws all day or risk that one time they don't throw me being their long combo into super that'll kill me.

>>378038337
I really want to like him but there's something in his design that throws me off.
Looks overdesigned to me. Same goes for Necalli.

>>378038846
Again, I think it's way more about knowing the setups than practicing them, I've never had to try anything more than 3 times to get it in SFV, at least setup/combo related.

I also agree that throwloops are mad stupid. I love how people hated crouch-tech OS in SF4, and everyone was excited to see that you had to actually tech throws correctly. Now with how SFV has evolved, throws are insane. I just like how they made throws overall worse and now they're too good on certain characters lol

>>378013675
People still play Snorefest Fighter V? Seriously?

>>378013675
Cuz Tekken 7 isn't out yet.

>>378039073
but ultra is what revived the fighting genre for the most part, I think dumbing the game down only allows people who were going to quit after 2 weeks anyway do slightly more stuff.

>>378039073

Yeah, I don't mind really. SF is always the game I come back to when I feel like messing around with friends or if I get stick of other fighting games.

I can pretty much random every game in SF5 and play perfectly competently with whoever I get.

>>378038846
Personally, throw loops dont bug me but too much you're absolutely right about the risk/reward. They really need to get rid of ch state on backdashes or give vreversals a throw invul buff.

>>378039081

Unless you are playing at plat or above, you can delay tech all day and they will never shimmy you. If you eat a throw below platinum you need to learn how to play.

>>378039680
I'm a super plat but I don't know what you just said means.

>>378039680
I'm silver but I bet I could throw you.

>>378040089
>>378040089

I doubt it. Unless your opponent knows how to shimmy, there is literally no reason not to delay tech everything.

>>378040319
I have a command grab, so sometimes I'll do that and other times I'll throw and other times I'll crush counter meaty. You would almost certainly blast my ass, but I bet in a best of 3 I could throw you.

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>>378013675
i play all i can , i play sfv but im playing the kof 14 steam beta right now, and im gonna play gg rev 2 but im no pro i just play with friends.

>>378040527

I'll give you the command throw, but a CC meaty isn't going to help you against delay tech.

>>378040623
Well I frequently just command grab until I start forcing other options, the meaty beats backdash and jumpout.

>>378040719

In the current patch, you can beat command grab, meaty and regular throw on wake-up with a jump-tech option select.

You'll be able to do it next patch to with a backdash-tech option select but it will be much harder to execute.

>>378040995
How do the best players in the world regularly eat throws and command grabs in an offline environment? I get why it works at my level.

>>378041154

>How do the best players in the world regularly eat throws and command grabs in an offline environment?

Shimmy.

Basically, the idea is that you put yourself in a situation where you can throw your opponent but, instead, you walk backwards for a few frames, make their throw tech whiff and punish them with a full combo.

This is the main reason why throw loops are so dangerous in SF5 and why you see pros eat them over and over again. It is much better to eat a throw, or even multiple throws, than to get shimmied and eat a full combo.

>>378041492
How does shimmy beat that jump back tech you mentioned? I know what the shimmy is.

>>378041707

>How does shimmy beat that jump back tech you mentioned?

Pros have developed setups to punish it.

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>playing "mash buttons and shimmy: the game" at all