Why don't western games have good soundtracks?

>>378002718
>wanting anything aesthetically pleasing in your video games
you fucking bigot, everything must be ugly and "realistic" and colors and music are tools of OPPRESSION anyway

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*blocks your path*

They do? They're just not as good.

You know there's something between good and shit, right?

>>378002718
except they do

>>378002802
Obviously mean not as good as Japanese games.

>>378002718
Are you asking for recommendations or just looking to start shit up? Many games from both Japan and the West have great soundtracks.

>>378002923
The only one I can think of is American McGee's Alice.

>>378002718

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???????????


Have you not heard of Jeremy Soule????????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5M1eT63lGE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-26c4fMgM0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2ml4aUUdBc

https://www.discogs.com/artist/779522-Jeremy-Soule?filter_anv=0&type=Credits

>>378002718
>>378003119

The only country that competes with game soundtracks is Japan.

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>>378002972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOeubRGrPVs

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Wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvDswh7eXw4

There are some good western soundtracks, but Japan effortlessly beats West when it comes to both diversity of video games osts and their overall quality.

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>>378002718
Because they create one theme and then make 6 versions of it for the rest of the game
Or they use stock background music since they dont consider it important
or the composer has zero range and can only do that "epic action sequence" tune you find in every average action movie

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>>378002718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJwh3erQlyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypNPxwnppU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J0H5ah1G7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v1WTgPvuCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTtrxKMF3Yc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGOm15Sp0Qg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upZAxeT416g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWpbXDTkIxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slKNBP7VEvI

tfw OP has no idea what he's talking about

Danny Elfman can have his moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BIu83wq0_I&list=PLl3ZLlAjma47fni9Bt3KKod4lOIC8X4L5&index=9

Western music composition for video games is just different and often pretty fucking unmemorable when they're trying to be serious. It think it's more if a current day thing though.

Western games can have good soundtracks, but it's usually pretty rare these days cause music isn't considered as important when it fucking is.
Japan have always been about making good game OSTs.

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>final battle in Shadowrun HK
>suddenly this starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNQpSMraAW4

>>378002718
Some western games with good soundtracks, off the top of my head:
Bastion
VVVVVV
Witcher 3
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
Call of Duty (I'm thinking World at War specifically)
Payday 2
Binding of Isaac
Hotline Miami (probably doesn't count)
Rayman series

>>378003480
>Wrong
>Links to a 3s loop

Okay.

>>378003567
>Elfman

So is he an elf or a man?

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>Kirill Pokrovsky is dead
>he will never make another beautiful OST for Divinity

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most western games try to emulate stuff from movies so they end up just being background tone setting noise

Jap games tend to make the music themselves be a part of the situation they are used in, which makes it more memorable

the only western game music that I can remember is Assassin's Creed II

>>378003810
This is the west's main problem.

>>378003789
Can't fucking wait for Divinity 2, but I just know the soundtrack won't be as good

>>378002972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqsUfZfxx5w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqGXCQ_5WOc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqFLp0jI8lY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSVHx23ByhM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLfj3pAlrs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns7fNPiNiNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh7bneLa2ek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA8C9SXISHQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfAuWjCXwnw
I could go on if my memory was better and I had my soundtrack library in front of me right now. These are my favorites and purely subjective, of course.

Western games are just as good as Gook games at using music, and I can prove it with one song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRpw-8vxZag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUjxPj3al5U

>>378002718
I'd say Japan has the more memorable soundtracks, but anything Mick Gordon composes is gold.

>>378003661
Anon, OP just said Soundtracks so surely the objective answer to the Call of Duty choice is IW?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEOqLoXjFQ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMMJNal_ybM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J55HOteSwCI

>>378002718
The first game's music was better. Autobutter's felt too busy if you ask me.

Anyway, R&C 1-3's music was good. Mick Gordon's stuff is really good, though not really to my taste. Jeremy Seul's music is great. Michael Hoenig's BG soundtrack is pretty unforgettable to me, but I can't rightly say whether it's truly great or I'm just nostalgic for it. Plenty of modern games have fantastic music too, and not even just the one's that borrow from japanese games.

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>>378002718
Say that again motherfucker

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WE'RE GONNA SHOUT IT LOUD
EVEN IF OUR WORDS SEEM MEANINGLESS

>>378002718
>what is homm3
>what is quake
>what is doom
>what is deus ex
>what is warcraft
>starcraft
>baldur's gate
>Tribes
>Tomb raider
Hell, even the star wars kinect soundtrack is good, in a laughable way.

Good western OSTs are usually limited to non-RPGs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Z2mG9XFpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSwATqPUsv0

>>378002718
I should have said unmemorable instead.

>>378002718
The problem with the west isn't the soundtrack itself it's that they have no idea how to utilize it's fullest. Majority of games have just the soundtrack blarring in the back of the game and you barely notice it unless you focus on it. Japs usually weave it into the game itself which makes it for an amazing experience.

>>378004317
>A lot of it does a gorgeous job at creating atmosphere, but what you never see is really unforgettable melodies
Complete horseshit, I can give an example of a track from a western game that does both perfectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIA1c9XxBVE

>>378004267
>mfw I have liked all fallout & TES soundtracks
Todd, just fuck off.

>>378002795
You jest and yet there are those who actually think that way.

>>378004267
Oh shut up, Soule was exciting 15 years ago.
Kyd is way better.

>>378004750
>naming Baldurs Gate 2 which was released in 2000 when they are talking about modern musical scores

I always wonder why no one ever posts WoW (or even W3) music in these threads.
I think it's consistently very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADmPpY_oC2k

>>378004750
Sounds generic as fuck.

>>378004874
Western game music was always mediocre,right now they have just given up on videogame music and just make movie soundtracks.

>>378002718
Videogames have shit soundtracks, though? This includes Automata:
>Repetitive.
>Zero musical innovation.
>Typically copies the composers influences blatently.
>Nothing interesting to note.

>>378004874
>modern musical scores
Even those the west rapes japshit (((music))) harder than an underage schoolgirl. Even AAA western have better soundtrack now. Worse of all is that the west managed to make a Jap themed music better than the jap can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZLmf3n00IM

What happened Japan? Also Klepacki and A.Brandon are godtier.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA614N3IHD4

>>378003119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LtSMlkBAFE
at least post something jeremy soule did that's actually good

>>378002718
What? I know plenty of western games with good soundtracks. Persona 5, Dark Souls and many others.

What is the western equivalent of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uInmFU6JkU

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>>378002718
do weeb games have jesper kyd?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=958OBRLyuko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iriiZOeInDg

>>378005047
Oh shit, /mu/ is here, evacuate the thread.
Your music sucks ass.

>>378004874
But other than it being good, it fits what they're talking about to a T. They basically just threw a bunch of money at a big hollywood composer, exactly what they're complaining about. It's true that they're talking about the huge budget AAA modern game industry, but they're also making a broad statement and comparing it to their own one example.

>>378004986
Compared to what?

>>378005076
You like movies not videogames,find a new hobby.

>>378005076
>Even those the west rapes japshit (((music))) harder than an underage schoolgirl
When you make such a bold claim you should post an example..

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>>378004502
>End of YoRHa version starts with 8-bit version, cycles through 3 different vocal versions and ends with a powerful chorus

>>378005076
Sounds like fucking Nightwish diarrhea

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*blocks ur path*

Western composers are nothing but Hans Zimmer wannabes.

>>378002718

Why doesn't Nier have a good soundtrack?

>>378005089

Heh, we all have different tastes... Yes he has done other good things.

>>378005089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejafLR6jb0g

>>378005215
It does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUmktoDFFKM

>>378003480
Eargrating noise, both Prey and D44M are shit tier.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLSdl-CdOBo

The whole soundtrack is fukin amazing.

>>378002796
Yes. You can shit on Undertae for its fanbase and because it bet Mario that one year, but the soundtrack is S-rank.

https://youtu.be/B2jVbSI9H4o
https://youtu.be/oDdR4c9vcEw
https://youtu.be/BEWOTdVnnZ8
https://youtu.be/P8ifb4V_mvo
https://youtu.be/VT9BfLVbnI8

>>378005397
Because it wasn't an OST trying to copy hollywood but tried to be slavshit music.

>>378005047
There is almost no room for innovation anymore unless trying to be really experimental, and that would most certainly not work as a videogame soundtrack.

Biggest problem is that the west wants huge orchestra with no memorable hint of a melody ever in almost every AAA game, thus it all sounds the same.
Nintendos composers access a much wider variety of genres and instrumentation for example.

>>378003480
Fucking hell, I'm so over soundtracks that all sound the same. I wish developers would stop using synths and go for more variety with instruments.

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>>378005397
Also:
https://youtu.be/bk8rraKzGBU
https://youtu.be/ApcxP0GURck

>>378005117
Sound shit compared to a game nearly decade before it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKUrUdL2h1M
But then again the Ultima series always have a godly soundtrack that the jap always try to emulate.

>>378005169
Ironic since most of the japshit games in this thread are cinematic heavy games.

>>378005171
>you should post an example
I did :^)

>>378005189
Not an argument.

Western games generally try to emulate Hollywood, and Hollywood is fucking awful, so the music ends up fucking awful. It's really that simple.

Good god I'm so glad Hollywood is shrivelling up and dying. It's a festering sore on all forms of entertainment media, it can't be gone soon enough.

>>378005160
>Compared to what?

I don't know. It simply sounds like a generic track you can hear in any fantasy game under the sun.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlfUcnSbKDA

>>378002718
Because majority of Westerners have shit taste.
>durr, give me more of this "epic" hollywood orchestra music

>>378005210
And Hans Zimmer is not someone you want to copy. How he got so successful is beyond my understanding.

>>378003119
Are you trying to cause a worldwide shortage of question marks

>>378005514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKUrUdL2h1M is equivalent in that it's a tune that everyone recognizes in an instant?

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>>378005532
Yeah capeshit franchises taking over is so much better.

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>>378004317
Many japanese composers entered the industry because they liked videogame music,i have a feeling that non-indie western videogame composers are people who wanted to compose music for movies but couldn't find a job.

>>378003964
Divinity 2 has been out for nearly 8 years famalam

>>378005514
>cinematic heavy games.
>only games mentioned are Monster Hunter and Nier:Automata and Bloodborne
>either of the Cinematic heavy
If you bait you gotta do it right.

Is this a recommendation thread or something? Cause if that's the case, here's some from this generation that try to be out of the norm. Shantae and Shovel Knight got pretty enjoyable OSTs.

It really starts to get groovy by 1:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yParHIzy1nA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqAYMZSOQao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcGV9VdnvhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v1WTgPvuCY

Plus stuff like Tropical Freeze, both Hotline Miami's, etc.

>>378005397
/thread

I wish soundtracks were more varied, was hyped as fuck when that tribal techno shit started playing when fighting Adam. Was a good break from all orchestra stuff.

>>378005621
You're retarded.

>>378005621
Capeshit is a fad that's already fading. Blockbuster movies in general are dying in term of revenue, Capeshit is one of the last holdouts in that regards.
Once all the plebs are tired of capeshit, Hollywood will finally end.

>>378005702
>Tekken music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaUO252yuYw

>>378002802
Everything is shit. This is the true /v/ideo game philosophy

>>378005532
You know what I hate? Every movie and western game these days so the same synth soundtrack that has no personality and doesn't do anything new.

Meanwhile you have the amusement park level in Nier Automata and its this fantastic track.
https://youtu.be/5aLHJE44QU8

>>378005670
If it's not finished, it's not out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RzA_Oomra8
It's a good thing western games can't have this. QTE boss fights don't deserve soundtracks like this.

>>378005543
Not really helping your argument there. You can't just say "it sounds like everything else" without providing any examples of what it sounds like. Or are you trying to say that because it's an orchestral track that it's generic? In which case I could say fair enough, I guess; I'm not too fond of orchestral stuff either but for some reason BG is an exception. My point is that it's a very memorable track that conveys the atmosphere of the game perfectly, at least to me.

>>378005739
This really sounds like something Iwasaki Taku made, not Keiichi Okabe

>>378002718
I think the soundtrack for journey won a Grammy. I also enjoyed it

>>378005181
i was reduced to a sobbing mass ;(

>>378005148
Videogame music blows, I don't even go to /mu/

>>378005397
This.

>>378005813
It's so finished it got multiple releases, actually.

>>378005827
it's... orchestra with choir?

I've no idea why people are hyping the Souls soundtracks so much. They really fit the games, but I don't think they're anything overly special.

Unreal Tournament 99
Deus Ex
Quake 1, 2 and 3
American McGee's Alice
DOOM
Morrowind
Fable
Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines
GTA San Andreas

>>378005942
>GTA San Andreas
If you're talking about the licensed tracks, that doesn't count.

>>378005576
Zimmer was in the right place in the right time mostly. The guy has been attached to some fantastic movies and from there pretty much became the movie soundtrack guy.

Sort of like how everyone is trying to be Sawano in anime right now so 90% of action anime soundtracks sound like they're emulating Gundam Unicorn.

>>378005810
I like how the amusement park theme fits in either case of killing everything or leaving them be

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>>378005938
>Souls

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>>378005651
Case in point

>>378005397
fugg I wanna play Witcher 3 now

>>378005810
You should look into the making of the red dead redemption music and sound design. Less focused on composition and more on ambiance and using unique objects and instruments to get the job done

>>378005827
>good thing western games can't have this.
>Post shit that Hans Zimmer can shit out on a Tuesday

Here's something that is more le epic and better for your taste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfMX1fz8l7s

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>your face this started playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKOM3lNFajE

>>378005938
Are you kidding me? Those pieces are the dark souls of music. Git gud (at appreciating music)

>>378002718
When you "study" music in primary school in the west, they just skim over classical music history, ramble on and on about pop music history. Then they teach the kids how to play some tunes on some instrument(s). And that's usually it.

When you study music in primary school in Asia. They go in depth on musical theory. The math behind it and how it correlates with the common perceptions of music.

This does in no way whatsoever make all Asians into splendid musicians or in any way better than western musicians. It does however mean, that the ones who do become interested in music and pursue a career in music. Have an idea of just what exactly they're doing. They aren't just abstract art fags who go on and on about feelings and emotions with nothing concrete behind how or why.

This means that Asia as an industry. Regularly dishes out far more people who actually know what they're doing. And when you want a score to have deliberate intent behind it, that's what you want. And it's harder to get in the west.

>>378005992
Sawano has become a one trick pony, like Kalafina, and where is Kalafina now in the animu OST department? Nowhere.

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>>378005887
Who wasn't?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXb3p28DG1E

>>378002718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm932Sqwf5E&t

>>378006070
That was one of the first games that popped into my head when I saw this thread. I love how they did the RDR soundtrack. It was such a unique and fantastic idea. It's shame they're not bringing back the old composer for RDR2.

>>378002718
What purpose serves these threads?
Why is it always weeb shitters who try to stir shit?
Why is this thread still up?

>>378005874
Nah, not enough rapping or dubstep.

>>378005924
Just so you know,
I'm talking about Divinity Original Sin 2,
not some other 10 year old game called Divinity that got a sequel.
Divinity Original Sin 2 is still in early access, hence, not finished

>>378006135
They focus so much on music, you'd think they'd fall behind in some aspect of school. America is still top dumb. We deserve trump

I wish that western composers synced up the music with the Boss fights more, it instantly makes them 10x more memorable. Fights like Ludwig the Accursed/Holy Blade, Ouroboros from Bravely Default, and End of YoRHa become 10x more memorable and hype with the way the music corresponds to whats happening in game.

>>378006205
Literally this, westaboos have it rough enough as it is these days.
This is just pure bullying.

>>378005991
I was looking at my music library but I see your point

>>378006190
RDR and GTAV were both built around an algorithm that put together pieces of the track together based on gameplay triggers. They'll probably use the same thing for RDR2 and they did manage to get a bunch of the old timer western musicians they sourced for RDR1.

>>378006213
Maybe you should refer to D:OS 2 then you fucking retard?

Oh who am I kidding, you don't even use the colon when spelling out the full name.

>>378006205
This is all a ruse planned by the weebs. Dubs confirmed

>>378005576
By always doing the same shit.
Everything he does sounds like pirates of the Caribbean

>>378006276
Still a great selection of songs though. A lot of them still pop into my head.

>>378006262
How many western studios actually do boss fights anyway? I can barely think of any.

>>378005992
>Sort of like how everyone is trying to be Sawano in anime right now so 90% of action anime soundtracks sound like they're emulating Gundam Unicorn.
No, that's just because Sawano is composin 90% of action anime soundtracks. It's a damn shame too, since he actually has range and is capable of creating absolute GOAT soundtracks (see: Blue Exorcist) but he's pigeonholed as the epic technorchestral clusterfuck guy.

>>378005470
Or use synthezizers for what they are capable themselves of doing, not just aping other instruments.

>>378005810
>Amusement Park theme
>generic carnival music with a basic electronic beat over it

I guess the lyrics make it a little bit different but I still think it's one of the most uninteresting tracks on the OST. There are tracks like Memories of Dust, Possessed by Disease, Alien Manifestation that I think much better exemplify Okabe / Nier's music.

>>378006293
Wew lad, take your pills today?

Thought you were smart enough to figure out I was talking about D:OS 2, not some game that came out a decade ago.

>>378006205
I just wonder why (modern) western games soundtracks aren't memorable like Japanese game soundtracks.

>>378003664
He loves little girls they make him feel so good

>>378006285
Should be good then. I like dynamic music like that in games. Like in Jak II the music would change womhen you would pull out a gun or hop on your hoverboard or steal a zoomer. Not exactly the same as rdr but stillc appreciated

>>378002718
nowadays it generally goes
indie games > japanese games > western AAA+ games
for me at least

>>378006371
You would think that, but there are a lot of shows people think is Sawano but it's actually Hayashi Yuki, the guy that did Build Fighters/Haikyuu/Hero Academia.

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>>378006000
How can the west even compete?

>>378006262
It doesn't necessarily need to be bossfights. I mean War to War in Nier:Automata was great because it fight exactly what was happening on screen and it fit the atmosphere that small arc was going for. Route C was memorable the way it was because the sound direction complimented everything else, for example that soundtrack that starts playing when you get infected by the logic virus as 2B . You knew what was gonna happen but the further you got you knew there was no saving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpDlQHOtGoM

>>378006293
I'm not the guy you're replying to but fuck you, pedant. Try not to start hyperventilating.

Did they fix the crashes on nvidia?

>>378005942
Fuck I forgot Bully

>>378006483
But why should I care?

>>378006251
Asians fall behind in music too. They lack innovation and have copied the west and abandoned their traditional music. You think they would have made more Asian traditional rock fusion ala Kimg Crimson, but that's not really a thing.

>>378005938
I'm not a fan of Ludwig's theme personally. The buildup is really good but when the choir starts screaming it's just chaotic noise that's not even pleasant to listen to. Disregarding that though, Bloodborne's music is a good league above Souls.

Not much can compare to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCDEDi5gDPo

>>378006482
But there are loads of them. Some of them are posted ITT.

>>378006604
No still waiting on Nfruit beta download. Sound fix all problems your shield is giving you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZLmf3n00IM

Don't mind me, western composer making a kick ass jap theme song for Killer Instinct.

This thread is fucking stupid, though. Music is the one thing that stands out in gaming whether they're American, European or Japanese. Weebs really need to stop smelling their own farts and calling it perfume.

>>378006619
>abandoned their traditional music
That's a funny joke anon.

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>>378002718
Nice try

>>378006000
>carte blanche
>composes the worst Castlevania soundtracks in some of the worst Castlevania games

Really makes you think

>>378006710
That sounds like shit.

>>378006637
laurence's theme is so fucking good. No one talks about it because the fight itself can be kinda bullshit and he's optional to begin with but that violin section is phenomenal.
I think I prefer gehrman overall though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9zxXN1rx0

>>378006575
>>378006453
>act like a retard
>get called out
>proceeds to samefag it up while pretending he's not by making retard statements.

As expected from an underage faggot that probably was born after the divinity series started.

>>378006423
>generic carnival music
Nigga you should try listening to it with a bit more of an open mind. When the strings and piano come in it completely removes the carnival part which is only done through the instrumentation. It's called contrast.

Calling it basic and generic isn't even an opinion, it's just wrong.

>>378006710
There's nothing japanese about it aside from the lyrics.

Posting MG is cheating, anyway.

>>378006841
Laurence going full fire monster didn't really have the same impact as "ahh you were at my side all along" with the shift into the second half of the track. That's probably the real reason most people tend to remember stuff like Ludwig and Gehrman; there is an aesthetic visual memory attached to a moment that created a lasting impression.

the last of us had the perfect soundtrack for its setting.

>>378004317
>>378006553
Yeah man, who would ever remember something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onie4N5FTlE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEId-ERa0M0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1BrVVFaF-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wh2HgBRRPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7fp3A_6Pq0
So overblown, not catchy at all!

>>378006964
The only retard statement here is you

get slammed kid

Generally, western vidya tends to have a more varied palette when it comes to vidya music, which means it is more susceptible to being hit & miss, but I vastly prefer that to the orchestral choirs and upbeat nintendo tunes of the east.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvetotNZhkw

Probably the best Western composer.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=paul+romero

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>>378006964
Can't believe I actually had to do this


Look mate,
I was replying to the guy that was clearly talking about Divinity OS, because he mentioned Kirill who did the OST for it.
When i said I couldn't wait for the second game, why the fuck would I be talking about a 10 year old game?

YOU are the brain-dead retard who couldn't figure that out

Good work wasting all of our time with your pathetic rambling

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6KcYN0A5LY

This game has a great soundtrack.

>>378005938
>orchestra with choir
Yes, there's literally nothing more to it than that.

Fucking idiot.

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>>378002718

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>>378002718

Because they think silent ambience and those chorus guys going "aaaaaahhh" is all you need.

>>378006731
When it's an underwhelming minority, you can consider it abandoned anon. It doesn't matter, it was actually solved music anyways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXb3p28DG1E

>>378002718
Because they don't get a shit right about video-games.
Nowadays they pretty much pander to movie's codes and rules rather than vidya's.

>>378007378
>underwhelming minority
I wasn't aware that you were the absolute expert in all things Asian traditional music and have been able to visit every single music circle to assess the state of who plays what.

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>>378007301
But I have proof right here you samefagged?

>>378007378
>only some people do it so you can say that no one does it
Dude, just stop.

>>378007456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKWtwJ38EjE

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>>378007268
>1:36

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>>378007634
It's kind of sad how Hearth Stone had a much cooler story than Blood & Wine

>>378007301
>>378007598
It's even worse
>I was replying to the guy that was clearly talking about Divinity OS
The guy said "divinity", he never mentioned OS. You reply to him about divinity 2, the sequel to divinity. Then you proceed to call others retarded because your balls haven't dropped yet and are to immature to admit you're wrong.

YOU are the brain-dead retard who can't remember his own retardations

Good work continuing your shitposting with your pathetic denial.

Game music is much better when it sounds like its own thing, rather than just mimicing big orchestral movie soundtracks or actual genres. Only exceptions to this from what I've played is Doom and Metal Gear Rising.

>>378007598
You could've chosen to stop embarrassing yourself and fucked off, but damn, you are a purebred fucking retard aren't you?
I've never seen someone as desperate as you on this board.
We both know I wasn't samefagging so do us all a favour and leave

>>378007709
>Hearth Stone
Man what the fuck, I meant Hearts of Stone

>>378007801
>he writes this as he's fuming at the mouth because his emotions are out of control over a bunch of posts on an imageboard
>he continues to reply like a retard
>while in denial that he made a mistake and it was pointed out
No anon, the embarassment comes from you.

>>378007574
Yes, well now you're aware. Solved boring music that's dead, etc.

>>378008019
That means you're a solved boring human that's dead.

>>378007619
Some people still perform opera, that doesn't mean anyone gives a fuck about it.

>>378008079
Go on.

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Hans Zimmer made the soundtrack for Beyond Two Souls so yeah that is 10000x better than all your japanese weeb shit

>>378007331
Oh sure it's well made, but it's not particularly memorable in my opinion.
Here are a couple of my favorite vidya orchestra pieces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns7fNPiNiNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4lwpYLlVvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiPon8lr48U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRzvLrriF1E

>>378007992
anon, it's time to stop baiting the idiot before it kills the thread

>>378008084
Well, shit anon. That's quite a watertight argument to make but I guess if I had to argue it then I would say that maybe the people that do perform opera and the people that go to see it performed give a fuck about it.

>>378008232
Yeah, a bunch of nobodies basically. I mean bitches literally period onto a canvas and call it art and people show interest in that, but that doesn't make it relevant for example.

>>378007992
>Guy talks about a sequel that isn't out yet
>Hurr that sequel came out a decade ago

Fucking hell,
If i said "damn, cant wait for the new Star Wars"
you would say, "It had 5 fucking sequels that came out more than 10 years ago" "Well how was i suppose to know you were talking about this new installment that everyone is looking forward to when you didn't say the full name including colon?"

That's how retarded you sound

I still can't believe you were desperate enough to shoop that samefag image. I'm still laughing

>>378002718
what was that thing called where big budget movie directors use other movies' music in pre-production, and then get so used to it that they tell their composers to write something similar, and in the end most movies produced in the last 20is years have really similar and forgettable OSTs? Perhaps it's like this in games too.

halo series had a great soundtrack. Same for Assassin Creed series.

>>378008345
Relevance is subjective.

I consider you irrelevant because I don't know or care about you, but I imagine you have family and friends that do and would dispute it if I claimed that the entire planet thought the same as me.

Because that would be a silly claim to make.

>>378008469
That's a bad analogy however because I'm not a form of art. Also, relevance isn't subjective at all. It's very real and very measurable.

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>>378008348
>That's how retarded you sound
The only one sounding retarded with that post is you. That's a nice strawman argument right there.

But you said "the NEW star wars" so that specifically implies either the latest release or the incoming release depending on the context of that sentence. The context should be obvious, even to a braindead fucktard like you.

>I still can't believe you were desperate enough to shoop that samefag image. I'm still laughing
>thinking you need to "shoop" that image
>thinking you need paint to edit image
>thinking it was edited to begin with

>>378002718
Western don't care about soundtrack on video games or contract C class composers or hobbits electro guys.

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>>378008695
>He made a webm of a screenshot of the shooped image

Holy fucking shit son, maybe you're not quite as retarded as i thought

>But you said "the NEW star wars" so that specifically implies either the latest release or the incoming release depending on the context of that sentence. The context should be obvious, even to a braindead fucktard like you.

Nevermind


You seriously made my day with that webm, I'm in stitches right now

>>378008925
He must be quite the wizard if he made a screenshot with functioning quotes.

>>378009138
He just took multiple screenshots

What are you two arguing about again?

>>378002718
They do. You just have nipponese dick so far up your ass that you can't see that.

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>>378008925
>retard thinks it's a webm
>retard can't see it's a .gif
>retard still thinks it's edited
>retard thinks I can't record a similar gif with new posts appearing
>retard doesnt notice the javascript popping up a thumbnail for a split second in the gif
>retard probably pronounces gif as "jif"

>Nevermind
Yeah thanks for admitting you were wrong on that part at least, now if only you admitted you were wrong the first time, and that you've been samefagging all this time.

>>378002802
Why would you indulge in average entertainment when you can consume good entertainment at the same cost?

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>>378006678
>>378006604
downgrade to driver 365.10 or make the game only use 2 cores in the task manager and no more crashes

https://youtu.be/VPXuopwIdBo

>>378009541
Good entertainment comes once in a blue moon

>>378002718
Furi's soundtrack is dynamite

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>>378009613
or make sure the game only uses two cores either works


https://youtu.be/bYoGFvn_fOk

>>378009541
Not him but to gain perspective is one reason I could think of. Consuming bad media once in a while can skyrocket your appreciation of good media. When everything you consume is 9/10 then an 8/10 for you becomes below average.

>>378003119

>Not posting Dungeon Siege Theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7aYfjE8h48

>>378005206
>distorted electronic noises
>music

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But they do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt4clSHR9o8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx06VKCP8z0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wQ_BQHmV3A

>>378006148

That's the concert ending right?

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>>378005406
>because it bet Mario

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>>378004317

>pretty dry

what's really dry is the cunt of all japanese women that can't find a real man in that god forsaken country full of cucks

https://youtu.be/JWblrR9JZ5E?t=20

>>378005887
It seems like everyone cried while playing it but I didn't, i don't think i've ever cried while playing a game.
I want to cry but I can't.

>>378002718
Play more games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnlA2rCHJHY

>>378002796
Too bad music is the only good part of this "game".

>>378003510
>they create one theme and then make 6 versions of it for the rest of the game
The japanese do that too. No More Heroes comes to mind.

>>378012627

I didn't cry but my jaw was on the fucking floor with a stupid smile on my face.

My problems with Automata are that its so fucking close to being perfect for what it is, and the things its good at all but offset the places where it makes its critical errors.

>make directors cut with A2 DLC
>add Memory Cage and more subtle hints at prior backstory
>9S's inner edge isn't telegraphed too well so flesh it out
>add in content from plays

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>>378005702
>Nier Automata
>"all orchestra stuff"

>>378012342
American banter is so sad.
You might think you "got 'em" with your remark but in reality you just sound offended.

>>378013056
Exactly, I think A2 came a bit from nowhere and since I haven't played the first nier there's some elements of the story that i've missed.
I would have loved it if 2B lived a bit longer, her relation with 9s is so cute

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>>378009458
For the record, you're still a massive retard for not knowing which game i was talking about.
Even a 5 year old could've figured that out

>>378013258

If there was just one scene before she dies where she and 9S fully acknowledge what has happened between each other I think 9S's tumbling down would have hit even harder All the stuff Adam was saying about him also seemed like they were coming out of left field,
the only sign he was kinda crazy was an off remark comment about killing Emil when he first saw him.

>>378002718
Mick Gordon would like to have a word with you.

>>378013363
>retard takes an hour to figure out something a child can do in 2 minutes

>>378015232
>Retard doesn't know what having a meal is

Regardless, I've proven you wrong, so you can stop now kid

>>378015424
You take an hour to eat? Is your jaw retarded too?

>proven me wrong
There's clearly conflicting evidence, but go ahead and tell me how your edited image is proof

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>>378002718
GTAV
>OST composed by Tangerine Dream, Woody Jackson, The Alchemist, Oh No & DJ Shadow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzKvPrlPVbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArA3bkumvol

Pic related is also pretty interesting; same contributors as the OST, plus
>Earl Sweatshirt
>Ab-Soul
>MC Eiht
>Freddie Gibbs
>Kokane
>Phantogram
>Killer Mike
>E-40
>Wavves
>Curren$y
>Action Bronson
>Danny Brown
among others
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1Vx-9TUyzA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG63uGgtdl0

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>>378002718
>muh jap games

>>378013258
>cute

Wasn't really cute so much as it was depressing and dark.

>>378005353
DOOM's soundtrack is a weird one, I can't really stand listening to it on it's own but it's fucking perfect for the game itself.

and no one is posting TROPICOOO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRUj6M0tpLo&list=PLjUso2IXN6RkZxxgyZUxVAghgKcfJ26Tk&index=7

>>378002718
Jap games:
>All the characters look the same, have a very specific set of personalities they never diverge from
>Soundtrack always sounds the same
>Waifu faggot and pedophile pandering
>Always edgy as fuck


I wish /v/ would stop sucking nip cock.

>>378017651
>I wish /v/ would stop sucking nip cock.

but considering
>Waifu faggot and pedophile pandering
that isn't likely to happen

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBJYhiAs4Js

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTLhWXv2I4A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ2Vb1t1-Js

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78jnBlInP2I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un7yVbYEEBY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0FaAs4M3d0

>weebs

>>378017651
>Waifu faggot and pedophile pandering

You just jealous because western vidya women are ugly

>>378013258
What part of it is cute exactly?

>>378018175
They have to be, otherwise it's sexist.

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>>378003480
>ambient shit

every time

>>378006619
>They lack innovation
Innovation is overrated.

>>378002796
/thread

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>western game music: whatever's trendy
>japanese game music: whatever fits perfectly

bump for more soundtracks.

>>378002718
anything warcraft, including wow's soundtrack (the only thing that was always consistent and good in wow)

diablo 2's soundtrack is top of the line

and a timeless classic, heroes 3. lovely how every town theme mirrors the aesthetics and the residents of that town

from more recent times, deus ex and the witcher come to mind, one with its dystopian cyberpunk vibe, the other with the subtle and not so subtle eastern european pagan references and songs

to sum up, you're a smelly weebshit

>>378003119

What about this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34SkRMjMv_Y

Also, this song is better than any weeaboo shit out there when it comes to RPGs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLyqSQhS6E0

But I feel like using Gothic music is cheating.

>>378019806
>>japanese game music: whatever fits perfectly
what about all those japanese games where every song is just an infuriating 20 second loop

>>378021141
>infuriating 20 second loop

How about a few second loop?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGM8-YN5B64

Still sounds good.

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>>378016229
>posts image from a jap game

>>378021315
Fits like a glove.

If you disagree with this you should literally kill yourself and stop wasting oxygen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12HXnYNA6Cg&t

>>378021072
cool. anything good that isn't 20 years old?

>>378021636
why does age have to play a factor?

>>378021751
While OP was broad in his statement, there isn't much difficulty recognising that older games had good scores. As for modern games though all that's posted are several exceptions to an otherwise boring state of modern music where it just apes film scores and those aren't exactly desireable.

>>378003119
I could never get into jeremy soul's music, it just goes in one ear and out the other

>>378012816
I never understood the argument that Undertale isn't a game. Like the battle system or not it's very clearly a gameplay element (and one which some people who are bad at videogames struggle with, SOMEHOW)

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>>378002718
They do. Martin O'Donnell by himself is so far ahead of the curve in terms of game scoring I have no idea why people don't copy him more. There are so many little tricks he puts into sound design that you only consciously notice after reading his interviews.
But even though I could fill the thread with Halo tracks, let me post one of the best soundtracks of the last year which went completely under the radar: Mankind Divided. Perhaps it was because the game wasn't a well made overall as Human Revolution but the score is the best cyberpunk music since Bladerunner. His ambient layering is sublime and something you can only really experience in the game itself, but the soundtrack release still has some great stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWDItAHS9-E
I love how McCann dials in on a clearly brutalist atmosphere but manages to create a distinct tone from both HR and other "Bladerunner-y" soundtracks. Especially in Prague, it just radiates the cynicism of the game's universe. But there's always got to be hope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVyds-mBQt0
TF29 conveys that incredibly. It's a complex theme, but the instrumentation is so bitingly clear and light that you can't just help but feel like you escaped the rest of the game world. And of course, you have some of the most uniquely textured action tracks out there. My favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT8okjbd6bg
McCann is a master of imbuing everything with thick ambience and his own texture, but still creating memorable tunes.

>>378005181
Smiling and laughing through tears... One of the most memorable vidya moments.

>ctrl+f "neverhood"
>ctrl+f "skullmonkeys"
>0 results
sasuga /v/

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>come for OSTs
>stay for two turbo autists having a fight over the most trivial matter of miscommunication.

wew so this is the future.

>>378024108
I'm not a big fan of a capella but Neverhood's soundtrack was brilliant.

>>378023917
When playing Automata and hearing how well it uses themes and in game mixing all I could think of was "Marty would be fucking proud"

Seriously, it takes skill to do legit bombastic orchestra stuff like he does and still have it sound so fresh.

>that live performance of destiny music where he conducted
>before he got fired

I was hyped for destiny, and hearing that he got fired sapped any hope for me befote it even came out.

>>378024562
Agreed. Salvatori's solo tracks, while good in comparison to the rest of the industry, are so painfully lacking in comparison. It's really easy to point out which tracks are his and which are Marty's.

>>378002796
>All done by one masshole in fruity loops
Still amazed

>>378003289
This game man I still love it
>that wings of steam tho

>>378021072
thats fucking gorgeous.
Thanks anon!

>>378002718
$$:
10% developers
90% marketing

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>>378002718

>limiting yourself to experience only one part of the entire fucking planet's vidya

Why do people do this?

>>378003983
>This giant list of generic ambient trash
Fuck you. Especially fuck you because you picked a good track from Transistor to show that you know what good songs can be, but a list of other trash.

>>378027941
i dont play indie, sjw or juden propaganda.

>All of these forgettable ambient scores that are only considered good by plebeians who think that the songs are super "epic"

Start posting actual songs you faggots.

https://youtu.be/_7uDB0mOwpA
https://youtu.be/VSl1cMB1j7M
https://youtu.be/EY6-zgbQI6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V81DlvZkxGE

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>listening to video game """""music"""""

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>>378006118
As soon as I heard the vocals, I went to the settings to turn off sound effects.

>>378018390
9s being shy when it comes to behaving in front of 2b, and trying to befriend her

>>378005684
Both are done by the same guy. Jake 'Virt' Kaufman. Probably one of the best western vidya composers right now. He does the music for most Wayforward games and many outside contract work too.
He puts his soundtracks up on his bandcamp for free
https://virt.bandcamp.com/

Other than Shantae and Shovel Knight I recommend his Mighty Switch Force and Double Dragon Neon OSTs as well.

>>378029005
But that detracts from the reversal of the situation found in Nier 1. Those twins were fighting against you and you heard the effects then in additon to Song of the Ancients, now, 9000 years later these twins are fighting for you with it playing and swords clashing.

>>378002718
Because you are a weebshit idiot that hasn't ever played any good games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yhpGBAvHl8

does any western game have a music style similar to this track
does any game in general have a style similar to this

>>378002718
Western games OST shit on any chinese k-pop soundtrack any day.

>>378002796
undertale had garbage music. What the fuck are you trying to say.

>>378031206
I like this song more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA0XWEUeCKM

>>378031771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PllQmeSEpNw

this one was real good too

>>378002718
I love N:A soundtrack OP, but you gotta listen to some tracks from Tim Follin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_gObHt1uZA&list=PLs8ECUWuwp5FDm4lYvKCBjhSMyalV1qq1

There is also other guy with a hispanic name but I can't remember.

>>378032227
I always see a pattern with western OST.
Everytime somebody posts its most likely either chiptunes or simplified music meant for a platformer/indie title.

Haven't seen a western recommendation about recent triple A games that sounded good apart from the Witcher 3.

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>>378030636
I actually still can't believe how retarded I was and didn't recognize the song when it played during YoRHa Betrayers and the tutorial mission. Not until the Tower did I recognize it.

>>378012137
>Using your free time to correct people's spelling online

I agree that Japanese games have better music overall but there's tons of good western video game music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUaNHjB1hy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMBt9L8Zgog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8HW5agFwUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXoELYrsQdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ysisxLSfsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGx-eH6b3rY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQP190NJjdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-h4-D9zko8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObCgwGR__wE


To counter though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul21yjKIT1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbXmIw62nU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kd8qdly2io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTht2pC-9AA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgTK2jffviY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XjouKSkSeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVuon4OLtpE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj8tIsgumCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXvaS52lfUs

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Japanese orchestral music is more focused on melody.

John Williams is really the only western composer who used this philosophy, pretty much all of the rest just produce music that fits the mood

>>378033184
Hans Zimmer used to do it. In general it's simply fallen out of favour in Hollywood. This video highlights the flaws with capeshit scores in particular.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfqkvwW2fs

>>378008180
Hans Zimmer is a talentless hack

>>378004043
As shit as the game was, that soundtrack for IW was fucking beautiful

Furi

Prey

>>378031720
>>378028130
Whew
Lad


>>378003810
>>378013165

>>378033731
>Furi
>Prey
European, not western

>>378005553
Was about to post Bastion OST.
The part where they stop shooting broke me.

>>378002718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFaTP4FoRfU

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>>378034107
>the one who still tries to shoot
>gets bashed by his own commander

>>378034292
Is it just me or most indie game soundtracks are better than AAA game soundtracks?

>>378034528
Not just you
Like older games, the soundtracks are generally better because they don't have thousands of dollars to spend on a fancy sounding but bland orchestra, so they have to put more effort in to make the music good with their shitty tools
that's how i view it anyways

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>implying hyper light nigger doesn't have one of the best ambient video game soundtracks

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>>378033839
European is western you retard

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>>378035032

>>378005397
RIP OP

>>378005090
But anon, those games came from Japanese devs

>>378035958
The Witcher is eastern game tho.

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>>378003531
Yeah! Tim Follin.

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ITT: people post shit tier "music" that is nowhere near as good as Keiichi Okabe's genius OSTs.

>>378028643
I'm glad someone else said this

ambient is nice and all in moderation but most of them don't stand out