>choosing anything other than independent Vegas.

If you're a boring fag you could choose the NCR, if you're an "euphoric" retard it is entirely possible that House projects may be your thing, however I never understood those who choose the legion since this is just a mob of angry primitivists with fascist tendencies, I mean all the other factions are flawed but at least they have a core belief that make sence (House wan't to leave the earth, the NCR is your good old fashioned everyday kinda boring but somewhat not so bad democracy thing and yes man ending is the ultimate selfish shit but it make sence in a purely individualistic way) seriously if there is a legion lover out there I realy want to know why.

>faction options are painfully generic, predictable, and annoying so you pick the most edgy, brutal, and douchebag faction out of spite
Is it secretly good game design because they know if the other factions were well made only edgelords would play the evil faction?

NCR does have the best ending as everyone, but goodsprings benefit.

>>377997223
>NCR ending the best
>ending where you literally get cucked is the best

>>377997329
how do I get ""cucked"""?

>NCR
Corrupt government trying to emulate pre-war values without realising that those values caused this situation

>Legion
Although Caesar has good leadership and ideas, his followers don't follow his train of thought. Will devolve into savages as soon as Caesar is dead

>House
Very smart but very egotistical at the same time. May have the best interest for his strip and himself, but little for the greater wasteland

>Yes Man
Only as good as the player is.

>>377996265
>Independent: DUDE ANARCHY LMAO
>Legion: DUDE FASCISM AND SLAVERY LMAO
>NCR: DUDE CORRUPT DEMOCRACY LMAO
>House: The only way for New Vegas to prosper economically while keeping the NCR at bay, along with the fact that he would keep any raiders from causing trouble in the Mojave

>>377997423
everything becomes more chaotic in independence ending.

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>>377996265
>tfw 10 int

You can be like Mr. House but better!

>>377997396
Cass cucks you for a random NCR soldier

>>377996926
Independent Vegas is only selfish if you decide to play it that way. I'd argue House is the most selfish option.

>>377997504
>House: DUDE I'M A BETA AND NEED A REAL MAN TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO LMAO

>>377997535
Never actually completed the independent ending.

From what I have gathered from it though, it just seems like it leaves life the way it is the wastelands though. Anarchy, yes, but a way of life that remains unchanged.

>>377997573
>HAHAHA I'M THE NUMBER ONE FUCK MASTERS FUCK GOD LMAO hey how does this shit work anyways ah shit there's chaos everywhere
unless if your courier has 10 INT the Mojave will become a gigantic shitter

>>377997504
House is an egotistical technocratic fuck who can't let go of anything to the point of overstaying his welcome in the world and collecting stupid snow globes. He would let the other 99% of the Earth sink into a black hole if it meant his little Vegas strip and its few dozen denizens remained to stroke his ego and let him continue pretending it's the glory days.

>>377997565
>not selling cass to the van graffs

there's your problem

>>377997739
>not letting in the 4th customer getting inside the Silver Rush in the first Van Graff mission
that's where you fucked up

>>377997535
If you do all the side quests the Mojave Wasteland as a whole is more balanced at the end. It's still a shitty place to live because it's the Mojave Wasteland, but slightly less so.
They main part to the Independent Vegas ending is that you break it out of the repeating history loop for a chance at something better or worse.

>>377997810
not really. Freeside ends up shittier if you don't choose NCR ending

>>377997693
>not having 10 int
t. brainlet

>>377997693
Why does everyone think that ending means that the Courier is going to become God King of the Mojave? It's "no gods, no masters" not "I'm the master". The Mojave communities go back to taking care of themselves just like they did before the NCR and Legion showed up. Except now there's an army of robots to keep Raiders and Deathclaws off the roads.

>>377996265

yes man is the type of asspull that i don t like in games. That said i'd still pick house, my courier was not a 10 int absolute genius and even if he was he lacks the pre-war knowledge, experience and the immortality that house has.

Even if he could get cryo'd he'd rather not.

NCR and Legion are both trash

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>choosing anything other than prosperous Vegas

>>377997870
It's a small price to pay.

>>377997714
House has been alive since the Great War and even calculated when it would happen, in which afterwards he made the right preperations to protect Vegas from the incoming warheads. Because of his long lifespan and great mind, he knows more than anybody else in the Mojave and perhaps the entire America on how he would bring humanity to its former glory and then colonising space.

>>377998205
how do you know Mr. House isn't going to murder you once your usefulness runs out?

>>377998275
Because a smart businessman doesn't get rid of his best assets

I sided with NCR just because it seems like the most honest choice. It's a system that everyone is aware is corrupt and leaking, but the angle of the game is that with the Courier around to patch the leaks, the NCR might shape up from the inside out and their nature as a republic could end up being the best benefit for the greater populace. Imo, the future of the Mojave is safest with NCR since the Legion are almost comically evil while House is senile, selfish and doesn't care for anything other than his strip. You could make a case for Independent Vegas but it's essentially leaving the Mojave as you found it, albeit with safer trade routes.

>>377998275

there's always a use for a loyal terminator

>>377998275
Why would he murder his most loyal subject? When the Courier got into the bunker with the stored Securitrons he could've just destroyed them like Caesar wanted but instead he chose to do House's bidding. House understands gratitude when he sees it, he even rewarded the people of Goodsprings because they helped the Courier.

>>377998362
I doubt even the Courier would be able to fix the entire NCR. A task of that magnitude would need its own game.
As for Independent Vegas, I'd say making it independent with its own army to fend off factions like the NCR from trying to interfere with their own ideals is a pretty big deal.

>>377998745
he does influence the NCR actions like having them help out the followers and ending the feud with BOS.

>>377999112
Yeah, but the NCR is a lot bigger than New Vegas. He might be able to do it if he dedicated his life after the events of the game to it, but I view The Courier's adventure as being done once the game ends. Like the other Fallout protagonists where they retire afterwards.

The best way to help the NCR is to take either Independant or House. By doing the NCR ending you're putting both New Vegas and NCR on the road to disaster. At face value, yeah, the dam is cool. But literally the only reason they get it is because an unstoppable war machine took it solo and handed it over. The NCR will only get weaker after this because they'll continue their campaign of nonstop expansionism resulting in inevitable collapse

If you want to help the NCR they HAVE to lose the dam (not counting helping the Legion assrape everything for obvious reasons). This causes turmoil in the NCR leadership and helps oust the retarded officials who believe in the nonstop expansionism and likely gets them replaced with people who know what the fuck they're doing. This is better for everyone involved.

>>377997423
>Democracy caused aliens to hijack the nukes
What the fuck

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lmao at faggots trying to defend House

Independent is literally House+, you have all his resources and all his plans except you're the one on top. No reason to pick anything else.

>>377998275
Because he's not fucking retarded. Because he has no other agent of comaprable competence to go out into the Wasteland and do shit for him.

>>377996265
I personally like going through the independent route, but in the long term, House is honestly the best choice for New Vegas.

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>>377996265
I like the independent route not because I think it's the best option, but because it's fun to have everyone to try use you for their own ends, and then end up fucking everyone over one by one.

It's the reason why I went with the Institute in Fallout 4, since that almost feels like the same thing.

>>378000713
You really want to leave New Vegas in the hands of a mentally retarded man who needed to be chaperoned by Arcade Gannon?

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>>377997504
>Anarchy
>Bad
Get the fuck off my property

>>377996265
Yes let my cannibal child killing 1 intelligence female ghoul hold the fate of the wastes a true great end.

But I don't want to rule Vegas.

Why do you talk about an 8 year old games every day? Autism?

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>>378002380
>talking about talking about this game for 8 years.
I'm thinking about KS now.

>>378002380
If an 8 years old game can still be constantly discussed on /v/ then it's doing something right

>>377996265
>Yes Man
>wants to rid the wasteland of rulers
>didn't learn it's lesson from Benny being that there will always be someone who wants to be at the absolute top of the food chain

>Legion
>wants everything to be where their rules are the only ones in the wasteland
>has had two legates defect

>House
>stubborn old man that wants the good old days to be real again
>doesn't know how to let go...how to begin again

>NCR
>the best chance of taming the wasteland

>>378003486
Yes Man doesn't "want" anything. He's barely an AI. He just does what he's told, no matter who tells him to do it.

>>378000713

Being is the second man is the best :

Pro :

-You're rich.
-You've got the best deluxe room of the strip.
- Everyone fear/respect you.
- When not in a mission you're independent.
- Nobody blames you if shit hits the fan.

Con :

- Someone give you order.

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>brodahood

>>377996265
Except Vegas is already independent under house, yesman is literally ancap means with courier having to fight through to being a NAP enforcer, which securitrons help with.

>>377999112
>ending the feud with BOS.
Anything than extermination of techno-fascist bandit community is extreme cuckoldry
>ally with terrorist group that destroyed your currency
>ally with group you had 2 wars with because they were hoarding toasters and power plants
>ally with the group that makes your heavy troopers were Power armor, without any power making it basically 40 pounds of junk in west-coast heat.

>>378004191
Vegas isn't "under House". House does his own thing and has no real power outside the Strip. He doesn't make his move to take over until the end of the game.

>playing the game exactly the same every time

Every single thread, yesman beta faggots ignore sword of damocles and even the entire ending
>my mary sue 10Special perfect cyborg courier will rule the mojave with a fair and iron fist!

Yes man was a mistake.
Obsidian should have the "leave mojave" ending instead, where at any point you could've go to the I15 and leave forever.

>>377996926
>just a mob of angry primitivists with fascist tendencies
And yet Legion controlled lands had less crime overall than NCR.
Really makes you think.
Though the Legion falls when Caesar dies because it can't support itself without Caesar.
And NCR is a corrupt shithole filled with bureaucracy that doesn't get anything done.

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>>377997739
>not looting the entire place for profit.

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>>377996265
i'll never understand how these fedora tipping anarchy teenagers think a small, mortal man who's only function is to kill would be the best choice for The Strip over an immortal, business genius who has the experience and knowledge from running the largest and most humanitarian company of the Old World.

>>377996265
Yes Man almost ruins the game for me just because everyone else in the game ignores his existence. You can't tell House he has a bug in the system, you can't suggest using the Secruitrons under your control to be used as cannon fodder in the Battle of Hover Dam for the NCR or Legion.

I really wish the 'you pissed off everyone' ending was to just walk away from it all instead of having Yes Man as the fail-safe.

>>378004686
You can do that with a stealthboy

>>378005002
Itd be nice if someone could restore that ending, but it would need Ron Perlman to voice it.

Independent Vegas doesn't mean you're going to rule it, you dumb niggers. There's no mention of the Courier's rule in the ending slides and there's a clear lack of leadership in New Vegas with shit like Freeside deteriorating further.
You're simply building the groundwork for New Vegas as an independent faction that's free to go its own way instead of looking to the failed ideologies of the past. The courier's job is done after that and the Mojave wasteland can develop freely for better or worse, protected from outside influence by the securitrons. Laterally the theme of the game.

>>377998275
>>378000815
>Oh shit dis nigga too useless, i can do a better than him
>Oh shit dis nigga too competent, what if he starts getting thoughts of replacing me? better get rid of him
>Oh shit dis nigga bosses me around, bet i can take him on and be the boss instead
>Oh shit dis nigga suspicious better kill him now
>Oh shit im the Sith Lord now

House and Independent are the worst choices in the long term, instead of being a part of a larger civilization you act essentially like a city state. Robots aren't going to mean shit when someone organizes a group four states away and pulls another Caesar, the long term problem is you can't account for things outside of your small sphere of influence so you're fucked the next time a new government gets power and land. NCR did it, Khans did it in some endings, Caesar did it, it's going to keep happening and eventually one of those big factions full of people and land are going to stumble upon your shit.

>>378006416
And the NCR and Legion are going to fail eventually too due to over-expansion. There are no good endings here, in the long term.

>>378003769
Yes Man only gives you that delusion and you can only take the actions "it" suggests, therefore you do Yes Man's bidding.

>>378006416
Good thing House's plan is to get off planet isn't it

>>377996265
I never tried, but what if you kill yes man?

I always mod NV to give me a perk every level because I like dicking around with the lesser tier perks and doesn't make me feel like it's a waste if I pick them.

>>378006815
He respawns shortly after, IIRC

>>378006815
He's one of the very few essential NPCs

>>378006815

He re-uploads into a another robot. It's done to prevent the player from locking himself out of every ending. Yes-Man even comments on it saying sorry that you can't kill him.

>>378006815
his AI jumps into a different robot and that one becomes yes man

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>>377996265
>dude we wuz anarchists n shiet

>>378006590
>are going to fail eventually too due to over-expansion
>what is the real life USA
>started out as colonies migrating west
>gets spread out and we end up with 50 starts on the flag
>it's alright

>meanwhile Europe is a bunch of former medieval apes
>???

>>378006590
NCR and Legion falling just paves the way for another group, as it stands the setting has shown that large scale organization is still possible so it's reasonable to assume New Vegas is going to be dealing with new groups like that over and over. It might take a very long time, possibly a few hundred years, but eventually a stable society with factories and technology and stability is going to find the Vegas area and by then it's all over unless New Vegas is just the start of something bigger. Not expanding enough is just as bad as over expanding

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>decide to blow up robot army during a Independent run just to see what would happen
>Yes Man is baffled at your stupidity but complements you anyway because clearly you have a good reason for doing so

I like the nice little touches they add.

>>378006904
>>378006815
He's not essential. He just respawns by moving his AI into another Securitron. It's a design feature so you can't actually fail the game if you kill literally everyone else.

>>377996926
This is a ROLEPLAYING GAME

I always tend to play as a Mary Sue then as a more strictly controlled character, replaying NV as a Nazi Scientist type, strong on discipline, high science skills, INT etc. He's choosing Legion

>>378007219
>scientist type
>chooses Legion

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>tfw Mr. House ending probably isn't going to be canon

>>378007368
Knowing Bethesda, it probably is just so Fallout 5 can take place in space.

>>378007076
Yes Man is programmed to essentially obey your orders regardless of actual effectiveness.
Also he hates the Khans.

>>378007368
I doubt anything in New Vegas is going to be canon because Bethesda hates West Coast Fallout and thank fuck for that after looking at their clusterfuck that is East Coast Fallout.

>>377996926
NCR is the safe choice for washing your hands off the responsibility while not feeling to bad about it.
What exactly being in command of a cesspool of gamblers and drug addicts is going to accomplish anyways ? I guess you've got an access to an army of robots, I'm sure that won't attract the attention of a really fucking obnoxious group of cultists coveting any kind of technology they can find.
Yeah fuck that, the NCR can handle it, maybe I'll get a nice manor in their capital and die happy of old age surrounded by non-irradiated bitches.

>>378004973
10 Int, 100 Science, 100 Barter, and 100 Speech says I'm way better than House; I never betray him though, I prefer being #2 and he's a good guy.

>>378007025
>what is the real life USA
Not a post-apocalyptic irradiated wasteland full of mutated monsters on the dead husk of a planet.

>>378007368
If Obsidian ever makes another Fallout game, Independent Vegas seems like the most likely option.

>>378004973
>business genius
>genius
He has low INT tho. He just has high LK. He's the fucking Timothy Dexter of the late 21st century.

>RobCo
>humanitarian
What the fuck

>>378007704
>If Obsidian ever makes another Fallout game
I hope not.

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>>378007704
I like to think that Yes Man was added as an option if players killed everyone.

>>378007707
He's over 200 years old for fuck's sake, his brain probably deteriorated like his body.

>>378007908
It would make sense thematically.

>>378004973
house is just lucky bastard
Courier on the other hand is capable of shaping future of Mojave, despite being capped in the head

>>378007908
>I like to think that Yes Man was added as an option if players killed everyone.
It is. See >>378007157


>He's over 200 years old for fuck's sake, his brain probably deteriorated like his body.
Actually, if you look at his actual backstory you'll find that House, while of reasonable intelligence, only got to where he did and as far as he did through luck. His luck just happened to run out on October 23rd, 2077. He practically spells it out for you even.

>>378007908
>>378008005
Ulysses doesn't act like a guy with 10's in everything, special stats don't reflect npcs so quit meming

>>378007694
you missed the point. NCR would effectively be the best option for the wasteland in the long run. they're organized and have a government. while it aims to increase it's wealth, NCR citizens at least don't have to sleep with a gun under their pillows.

on a side note, Minutemen would make a great runner up candidate for the best option since they also aim to unify a land under one flag but while keeping everyone a free man.

>>378008327
>they're organized and have a government
A corrupt government, which is worse than no government in a world of daily survival like Fallout

>>378007076
I once did it to help NCR but ended up killing NCR when they wanted to kill BoS

>>378007536
Vera was mentioned in FO4

>>378008275
???

His entire backstory pretty much reflects that he does. You're telling me that a guy that: trained the White Legs to crush the New Canaanites (successfully), LEFT the Legion without consequence because of how much Caesar respected him, talked to the Think Tank without getting lobotomized, had long conversations with Elijah, survived the sundering of the Divide AND the aftermath, completely reprogrammed the ED-E facility AND the Hopeville silos, didn't have 10s across the board? I can understand how you'd feel differently about BEAR AND BULL, but his backstory definitely reflects the stats he was given.

>>378008535
I meant major plot points.

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>>378007368
>yfw in Bethesda's canon BoS are the victors and they take over the Mojave

>>378008661
>10 INT
>10 LUCK
>Is black

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How can one man be so BASED?

>>378009135
Ulysses isn't black, tho. Either way, we're talking about an NPC that shapes the Mojave as much if not more than the Courier himself. Literally, everything the courier does in the game is the result of Ulysses.

>>378009184
Hard life.

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>download a bunch of gun mods
>check where they're located
>most of them will put the weapon near/at Doc Mitchell's place

Jesus Christ, Doc Mitchell is one armed motherfucker.

>>378009645
one time I just downloaded a fuck ton of armor and weapon mods, and I installed them in bulk and I just ended up discovering new shit in random places because I forgot where the modders placed the weapons and armors

>>378009645
Funnily enough, Doc Mitchell's dialog hints at him being quite capable in a gunfight despite his leg.

>>378007543
>I'm sure that won't attract the attention of a really fucking obnoxious group of cultists coveting any kind of technology they can fin
>Implying they could win

>>378000713
>implying I want to be in control when I could get some other chump to do it for me while I live the ultimate high life
House is the actual selfish choice

>>378009989
They can't, however they're an annoyance so getting rid of them is beneficial

House is best

>>378004624
>And yet Legion controlled lands had less crime overall than NCR.
>Really makes you think.

If you're a fucking retard maybe.

House isn't perfect but it's the best option for the Mojave as it can at as the buffer zone between the NCR and the Legion, preventing either side from taking over and fucking everything up

>>377996265
Sony Vegas?

>>378004624
>And yet Legion controlled lands had less crime overall than NCR

Yeah, ever since murder, rape and child slavery was legalised, crime rate has plummeted. Ave, brother!

>>378008275
>Ulysses has 10 in everything
>Plays around with an Enclave detonator and blows up his home
>Hunts down the courier instead of the Enclave

I'm pretty sure he should have been 1 INT.

>>377997504
>Choosing the Democratic Party of the game
Must be an idiot

What the fuck was Ulysses problem
of course I didnt know I had a detonator I'd be a shitty courier if I messed around with the client's stuff
pretty rich of him to complain about his home being wiped away when that's exactly what he did to the Mormons

>>378012668
He had PTSD.

>>378012624
>Democratic Parry
>House
what

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>>377997905
>roads

>>378012574>>378012668
Ulysses didn't blow up the divide and the reason he hunts down the courier to prove to the courier that seemingly meaningless actions have dire consequences. The reason he does this is that not only is Ulysses fucked up from the fact that his home was destroyed, the Courier is walking the exact same path that Ulysses did. Everything that occurs in the game, outside of the destruction of the Divide, is the direct fault of Ulysses. The point of the DLC is to show the Courier that he's walking a Lonesome Road, one that Ulysses has also walked. It's really unfortunate that people didn't really pay attention to LR so they only complain about MUH BEAR MUH BULL rather than the message as a whole. Same thing happens with people missing the message of Dead Money because of how much of a nightmare it is the first go around.

>>378012485
The Legion isn't the people it rules over

>>377996926
I don't love legion but I feel like Vegas Strip would be taken over by them eventually due to fact they pretty much took over a good portion of the Midwest. But with the impending death of Caesar is the death of the legion, so I assume the vegas strip would fall to ex-legion-turned-raider gangs after the invasion. I chose the independent vegas in the end. My assumption was that at least the citizens of vegas could live free for a bit before getting suffocated by the legion and either killed or enslaved.

>>378013245
who said this?

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>>378013473
Sawyer

robots are disgusting abominations
siding with them is the worst choice

>>377996926
why do people keep asking this question? the legion's purpose is to cleanse the wasteland of weak, cowardly men and unify them to make them as strong as possible. personally, i thought that was made to be painfully obvious. compare your average NCR grunt to a legion recruit. the legion recruit would walk to hell and back if he had to, while the trooper is just counting the days until his next leave.

>>378013352
That's right, the majority of those gets killed, raped and enslaved.

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>>378011530
>the buffer zone between the NCR and the Legion
The Mojave is a tiny wedge of land between Arizona and California. If both sides are serious about continuing to fight each other they'd just spill over into Baja or the rest of Nevada

It's the eye of the storm

>>378013742
Because that's the reasoning of a violent nigger and we normal white folks can't comprehend being so barbaric and evil.

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>always sided house
>thinking of doing a legion run this time around
>tfw too guilty to do it

>>378014449
Helping the NCR defeat the Legion while keeping House alive would be the best ending by far.

>>378014449
All of the endings are worth doing at least once so you can get a better idea of each faction.

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>>378013742
>be born into savage tribe in the middle of nowhere
>tribes gets conquered by some bald motherfucker
>tells you you're a future legionnaire now
>you train every single day to make this guy happy
>if you don't you die
>oh well
>they throw a machete in front of you and tell you to charge the profligates with it
>but they have guns why don't we use guns
>"it's degenerate"
>true to caesar
>run in
>die

>>378014852
>Legion doesn't use guns meme
You've never played the game, then?

>>378014116
it's not barbaric. killing for no reason is barbarism but the legion has a simple and clear purpose, to rid the wasteland of thievery and corruption, and bring us to a golden age where you can trust every man with your life.

Why does Ulysses have such a hard on for The Divide?
It would probably have just ended up being taken over by Legion or NOT anyway

>>378013742
>the legion's purpose is to cleanse the wasteland of weak, cowardly men and unify them to make them as strong as possible
>doesn't even respect the tribes it try to absorb into the legion to the point they just trick them into believing they are righteous
>murder and enslave tribesmen and just brainwash the children into fighters

>>378015065
Why does anyone have a hard on for the place they live?

>>378015065
Because the people there had made their own culture, a post-war culture and society that wasn't mired in Old World philosophies like NCR, Caesar and House. It was its own place.

That, and it was a place he finally felt he could call home after all the shit he'd been through

>>378013742
>Legion starts training boys since they are 8 until they are 16.
>Give them no weapons or true armor so you can get the guys you spent 8 straight years training killed in 46 seconds
That retarded shit just does not run on the long term. It's a model doomed to collapse.

>>378015020
not the youngsters.

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Stop posting western garbage

>>378005057
Just carry them into the back room, chump

>>378015161
people like you will never understand caesar's vision because you're too bogged down by politically correct formalities. the legion is like the ideal version of the united states, if every immigrant was willing to forget their old country and unify to create a great new country. imagine a society where literally every citizen is working towards the progress of their nation. it gives me chills.

>>378015325
All ranks of Legion troops have guns in their equipment lists. Recruits just get shit tier ones like the Cowboy Repeater and 9mm Pistol

>>377997565
ncr? more like ntr.

>>378013564
sounds like house is the right choice

>>378015403
also they're supposed break from their families too because it means they're loyal to something else. it's the ultimate cuck system.

>>378015472
I've never seen NCR troopers charging at me with knives anon, stop being obtuse.

also cowboy repeater is not shit tier at all.

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>>378007368

I wish Obsidian has the balls to do a follow up to Fallout: DUST. Too bad such an idea probably won't be financially viable sales wise.

>>378015049
I'm sure these kids in slavery are the root of thievery and corruption dude.

>>378015403
the legion was born to fail once they stop having a certain leadership,
the followers said it,
Marcus said it,
independants said it,
and they were all proven right when you get the legion ending with caesar dead.

>>378015298
it's a model that led to the society you see before you. if our ancestors were given a break by mother nature and all her dangers, we wouldn't be here right now. we wouldn't have developed the ingenuity to survive this long.

>>378015298
>NCR raises children to be educated and productive members of society
>Conscript them, give them shit weapons, two weeks of basic and send them in a human wave until the battle is won

Yeah, this is a sustainable system

>>378015883
Don't forget about drafting women so they can experience PTSD, rape, and permanent injury 1st hand!

>>378015801
no. thieves become good thieves by NOT getting caught. not being punished, never facing the consequences. a society with lax laws promotes that sort of lifestyle.

>>378015808
if caesar is dead then you either did something wrong or you were intentionally trying to sabotage the legion, in which case you wouldn't have picked the legion ending. curing him is one of the easiest quests in the entire game if you've already cleared Vault 34, which you should have by that late in the game.

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>>378007550
original character do not steal

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>yfw you realise if they ever confirm who wins in New Vegas in some new installment there will be a major upset among the fans because all factions have their fair share of supporters

Not gonna lie, former Kimball supporter here. It's hilarious watching NCR crash and burn, but in all seriousness we can't let them have the Hoover Dam

>>378016241
I won't be upset if the consequences are realistic.

>>378016126
i cured caesar on my first legion play,
i tried to see if legion was any good but i still see more bad than good.
i understand some of his point but this is taken to the extreme.
what i'm saying is that once caesar will die, legion will die with him or will stop following caesar's rules and commit more atrocities which will make them goes back into some sort of barbarian tribes with a fake sense of society.
at least i'm glad he still had his head on his shoulder and respected the followers of the apocalypses he was with in the past, which was also the only faction i truly sided with.

>>377996926
https://youtu.be/o6LaGLjxq88?t=406
Because the world is shit and fascism works best under those conditions. The main flaws in his plan is that it self-destructs without his overseeing and without an enemy to fight. To circumvent these obstacles he planned to evolve his ideology as either drew near.

>>378017020
Fascism doesn't work in any kind of condition. Legion is basically Fallout ISIS.

>>378015742
NCR Troopers occasionally spawn with knives and will try to stab you if they have no alternative

>>378016551
caesar is creating an environment of brotherhood and trust specifically because he knows he will die one day and can no longer lead. he's working a long term strategy. when you fight and kill alongside certain people your entire life, it doesn't matter who is commanding you. you will develop an extremely strong bond with those men and legionaries will actively seek out a new leader for themselves.

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>>378017020
>Fascism doesn't work in any kind of condition.

>>378017214
meant for
>>378017114

>>378017114
>Fascism doesn't work in any kind of condition
That's not true. It's among the most volatile of ideologies, but in the right circumstances it's the most powerful.
>Legion is basically Fallout ISIS
It's basically the Roman Republic given how strongly they emulate it. Caesar even feared that the realization among his subordinates of its origins would lessen his reign.

>>378017143
if you try any harder you're going to shit yourself.

>>378017214
>>378017584
I'm just saying, if Legion were fascists they would've folded a long time ago. At least jihadis are resilient considering the odds are really not on their favor.

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>>378014116
>reasoning of a violent nigger
>direct copy of the most renown contributors to the western world

>>378017771
>muh legion dun use guns
>they objectively do
>nuh uh!

Only one trying to prove something here is you, fagbait

>>378017584
>That's not true. It's among the most volatile of ideologies, but in the right circumstances it's the most powerful.
People make literally, WORD FOR WORD, the exact same argument for Communism.

>>378017852
The Legion has almost nothing in common with golden age Rome, you retarded fuck. Caesar was even known for being extremely merciful.

>>378017771
>I'm just saying, if Legion were fascists they would've folded a long time ago.
How exactly? Facist ideologies are strong whenther there's an outer threat. Even Francoist Spain lasted for decades.

>>378017871
there is a part of legion that specifically does not use guns, this particular legionnaire in this greentext was a part of that group. man you really want to have the last word don't you

>>378018013
Only because the allies didn't fuck his shit up and let him live.

>>378017984
Direct copy wasn't the right word, but my point still stands. The conquering and integration of tribes as well as the reliance on slave labor are obvious parallels. Fallout's Caesar clearly feared the degeneracy associated with the decline of the Roman Empire, and was relentless to instill a hatred of it before his passing.

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kaizar this some nasty ass civilization I hate you so much but the cosplay game ridiculous

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>>378018829
>female

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>>378019037
Just the Courier getting into the spirit of things

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>hit level 30 with logans loophole
>realize I'll have to do OWB to get rid of it

I hate OWB. Not because it's bad it just isn't a good DLC to replay.

>not wanting to be number 2 your boss brings out when no one else can do anything
>he has an army of super robots so most of your time will be fucking around
>will handle most of the hard shit and bad laws will pass you by so it's a null point
>might make some robot parts of living eternally
later on so you can do the realest robot government

>>378019652
the courier is male. just because developers let lonely autistic faggots make female characters doesn't mean it's canon.

>>378020085
>skip introduction
>do three main fetch quests as fast as possible
>talk to Mobius
>talk to Think Tank
>all that happens is the ending chides you for going so fast
>come back later and do the rest at your leisure

>>378020085
None of the dlcs are specially good for replays.

>>378019037
that's a young male tween

>>378020371
I personally disagree. Dead Money gets better with every playthrough probably stockholm syndrome because I can't let go and I feel like I find new things in HH every time I play through it. OWB just feels like such a chore, but at least it's varied enough (albeit far too long) to where it doesn't drag as badly LR.

>>378020371
>haven't played fallout nv for years
>only did every dlc once each back then
>decide to play again
>first dlc i go for is honest hearts
>skip every location and go fast just to end with the dlc because i remember locations are utter shit

IS IT TRUE PEOPLE LIVE IN GIANT GECKO

>>378004973
>RobCo
>humanitarian

Did you even read the fucking terminals, bro?

>>378021008
Compared to WestTek, VaultTec, General Atomics and Poseidon Energy, House looks like a saint

>>378021232
You realize that RobCo had primary partnerships with literally ALL of those companies, right?

>>378021504
Selling computers is not a business partnership, Anon.

>>378021583
House personally worked with General Atomics on Liberty Prime. You can even see a photo of him standing in front of it. PipBoys? House did that. Literally every bot in the Fallout universe? House. The fucking vault 101 PA system even tells you right out:

>Did you know that the Vault-Tec/RobCo partnership is considered the most successful joint venture in the history of American industry?
https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/4/43/Vault101PA_Vault-Tec_Robco.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150507211020


That's not even counting the shit he did to his poor brother. House is complicit in all of those things. He's not a saint. He's not humanitarian. He's just as fucked up as the rest. You can either accept it or you can ignore it, but thems the breaks, nigger.

>>378021813
>Liberty Prime
>giant commie killing robot
I don't see a problem.

>pipboys
>same thing as selling computers

>vault-tec partnership
it's unknown exactly how much of a role he really had in the vault experiments

>his brother
his brother was pretty much retarded

>>378022217
I'll say it again, you can either ignore it which you've chosen to do here or you can accept, but those are the breaks. Doubling down on your already proven incorrect view doesn't change reality.

>>378021813
>Liberty Prime
A ridiculous robot that never worked when it was built. Not exactly a Bad Thing. Given the story of New Vegas, probably a ploy to earn more money and spend it on Securitrons for himself.
>PipBoys
Tell you what to do, where to go, dull your brain. Still not a bad thing.
>All Robots
The Mister Handy/Gutsy and Robobrains were built by General Atomics.
>Antony House
He stole House's inheritance in the form of H&H Tools and then had a mental breakdown when his brother became so rich and powerful he could just buy the company out. Maybe House ran a projection to see how likely it was his brother would lose his mind but it's not really his fault or problem that the guy ended up batshit insane because he got one upped so hard.

>>378022745
>The Mister Handy/Gutsy and Robobrains were built by General Atomics
In a partnership with RobCo, you double nigger

>>377996265
>independent

No friendo. You chose slavery to an AI. Best choice is NCR by a land slide.

>>378022897
>best choice is NCR
>NTR fags actually believe this

>>378022720
>>378021813
Well, when you can come up with something that's actually as bad as the other companies directly working with/being part of the Enclave and helping to engineer the end of the world while experimenting on the American people, maybe you'll have an argument

"Worked with the only other companies in the market" does not make House as bad as the people behind the Vault experiments or FEV

>>378023017
Democracy > Dictatorship

>>378023168
>and helping to engineer the end of the world
He did exactly that though. He even admits to you that he could have saved the world but he chose not to.

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>>378023230
>implying ncr's """""democracy""""" actually works
>implying ncr won't collapse if they keep expanding out eastwards

>>378023338
>You say that you saved Las Vegas. How?
>By 2065 I deemed it a mathematical certainty that an atomic war would devastate the Earth within 15 years. Every projection I ran confirmed it.
>I knew I couldn't "save the world," nor did I care to. But I could save Vegas, and in the process, perhaps, save mankind.

Hmmm

>>378023461
>nor did I care to

>>378023563
>implying the world was worth saving by that point

>>378023420
NCR- Manifest destiny 2: The Electric Boogalo.

>>378023563
>I knew I couldn't
Yes, it's funny how you keep skipping important things to invent arguments that don't exist

Nothing about the Enclave says they would have welcomed his help, or done anything other than hinder him if he tried to provide his technology for all. One man and his robotics/computing company weren't going to suddenly fix the oncoming apocalypse

>>378023612
>moving the goal posts

>>378013381
>legion
>controlling the midwest
They have Arizona, New Mexico, SE Utah, and SW Colorado

>>378023807
>know the end of the world is coming
>do nothing to help save it, only your little pet project
>this makes you humanitarian in the eyes of some rando autist
You fuck off

>>378023695
>implying they can make it all the way to the east coast without collapsing
They're already stretched way too thin, weighted down by crippling bureaucracy, and on the verge of collapse by the events of NV.

>>377998275
If you're good, he really likes you
If you're neutral, he respects your work ethic
If you're evil, he is afraid of you

>>378023889
>accepts his limitations regarding the impending nuclear holocaust
>"little pet project" is a convoluted plan involving gambling to preserve important resources, rebuild civilization to a point where spaceflight can be achieved and then save the human race by getting them off the raped carcass of Earth
You lose so gracefully but I'll accept it

Try harder in future, faggot

>>378006597
what
Yes Man just gives you suggestions. You can tell him you don't care about any of the minor groups and he'll happily ignore them

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>>378024247
>happily

>>378024176
He could have handed some resources to the government. Suddenly America and the world is saved. He didn't. He abandoned it for his pet project: Vegas.

>>378023889
I will admit he could have done more to try and save more cities.

>>378024296
I mean, he's not angry

>>378024315
>The government
You mean the Enclave. That had its own resources. That chose to save itself and only itself. That later decided it was going to exterminate all humanoid life on the planet with a modified strain of FEV so they could repopulate with only the purest of American genes.

Yes, that would have been a GREAT plan.

>>378024437
No, I mean the government. The Enclave was a small subset within the government.

>>377997870
Freeside was fine for me and I went independent

>>378024381
he barely managed to save Vegas even with his calculations, the lack of the silver chip meant dozens of warheads still got through
trying to save other cities would have doomed everyone in vegas

>>377996265
Honestly, you could make a good case for the NCR, House, or Wild Card being the best option for the Mojave.

Legion players, on the other hand, are contrarian plebs.

>>378024658
>dozens of warheads
Out of 77 warheads targeted at the Mojave, 9 of them hit and none of those hit Vegas itself

You can even visit about 4 of the craters in the game

>>378023230
>it's easier to topple an overwhelming majority than a single tyrant
EBIN, cuckolds actually believe that too.

>>378000713
correct me if i'm prolly wrong but it has been a long time since i've done yes man ending and i was under the impression yes man itself would run vegas after finding some sort of update that allow him to not always saying the truth or some shit.
didn't felt like the courier would run vegas with yes man, more like a "whoops i've unleashed a robot to be put in charge of the whole area"

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>>378003834
>Being is the second man is the best
This

>>378003486
The ncr was already ridiculously spread thin by the start of the game and required The Courier's help to defeat the legion they'll only get weaker the more they expand

>>378024501
>The Enclave is comprised of (mostly) ancestral descendants of top ranking officials of the government (most notably, the last standing president of the United States before the Great War, according to the Fallout Bibles)
I mean, trying to bargain with a government already corrupted within by a cabal of powerful, self important officials would be bad enough but outright going to a President in cahoots with the Not-Illuminati would be crazy

Of course, if the government actually cared about people not dying in nuclear fire they could have done more to stop it themselves. Like, not invading China and kicking their asses so hard. That might've helped.

>>378024932
No, Sawyer himself even said that the Yes Man ending just has the update to only follow the Courier's orders.

>>378025027
It's almost as if China started the war by invading Alaska or something

>>378025105
And there we have it! Global politics!

Not something one man and his personal fortune is ever going to fix, no matter how hard he tries

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Independent=House>NCR>Legion

>>378024932
Chris himself said this was not true. The upgrade is only so he wouldn't take orders from anyone but you.

>>377997870
Poorfags get out

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>>378008275
>dresses like an edgelord
>talks like an edgelord
>dreads
>black
>10 charisma

>>378024932
Yes Man's "assertiveness" is to say no to everyone but the Courier

>>378025243
>have the tech to stop 90% of nukes ever reaching their target
>refuse to share it for his own pet project
>somehow not complicit
Let me axe you something. If your child had cancer and you found out that a man had cured canced but refused to share it so he could use it in a little pet project, would you blame him for the death of your kid? Of course you would.

Independent=House=NCR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Legion
I don't like Legion very much

>>378017584
>>378017584
>It's basically the Roman Republic
It's not even the Roman monarchy.

>>378013189
>the main message of dead money
the "let go of the wealth" message? that one was pretty easy to spot, even through the red tint everyone saw through while getting through all the bullshit to the vault room.

Or are you referring to something else?

>>377997810
This, independence doesn't guarentee a better community but it's the chance that matters, like what Evey says at the end of V for Vendetta.

>>377997870
who cares about Freeshit

>>378025438
>computers that can calculate numbers really fast
>giant lasers
As we all know, RobCo had a monopoly on both these things. Never did anyone else get advanced computers, like the fictional ZAX, and energy weapons? Forget about it.

What an asshole he was to keep these things all to himself. Or, to put it another way, no. You analogy is ridiculous because House used things widely available in Pre-War America. Not his problem in the slightest if every other organization that could have set up their own defensive grids chose not to.

Is there anywhere I can get the full list of changes for NV Redesigned 3? The author doesn't seem to want people to know.

>>378016241
Imagine if they made Legion ending the true one just to fuck with everyone.

>>378025686
Let Go in general. It's actually the main message the game overall, to let go of the past to forge a new future While it is true that most people HEARD it, they didn't get it, yourself included.

>>378007550
>and he's a good guy.
Nice lie guy.

House is a business man and only cares about only profits in sense. So if the MC were to ever to because useless or a burden to him House would just find someone new to take his place and get rid of him. House only cares about things and people as long as he can get some value out of them and different towards everything else not hostile to him.

Like House is the type of nigga who would let someone die in-front of him even if he could save them if he could get nothing out of them and if they were alone with no one to talk shit to ruin his rep and make people more wary of them.

House is not nice. He is ultimately self serving looking to build a vision of the past in the present just like all other of the major factions in the game aside from the Yes Man..

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>>378016241
if it happens the canon one will probably be independent, unfortunately.

>>378025630
You have every right too anon.

>>378017913
but fascism has had actual benefits to the countries the system was used in

>>378005002
I saw Yes Man as the in-game medium to have the player go rogue, rather than an actual entity in the game that affects the world. With the way the game is designed, this was probably the simplest way they could think of to represent the player making his own choices over picking the other options.

>>378026093
>Like House is the type of nigga who would let someone die in-front of him even if he could save them
He'd do well in the Wasteland

>>378017913
>implying anyone says communism is bad

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>NCR
>Basically the HRE. Will overextend itself to the point it balkanizes and ends up like the warring German states

>Legion
>Will end up like the Roman Empire: collapsing from the sheer weight of its conquests, and after the good leader dies will be followed by really shitty leaders and civil wars. After it collapses will provide a baseline for the remaining ethnic groups to emulate off of and restart the post-Roman period

>House
>Venice. Obscenely powerful, only cares about itself and its interests, and profits off of other nations. May last but not necessarily useful for mankind

>Independent
>??? A loose confederation of wildly differing states and cultures unified by one singular person with an iron fist

Who /MrNewVegas/ here

>>378028394
Best DJ in the franchise desu.

>>378028553
NO
THE BEST DJ IS MY BOI
THREE DAWG
AWOOOOO

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>>378027664
>Primm
loving every laugh

>>378028653
Shit taste

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>>378028850
WHAT
SCARED LITTLE WHITE BOI CANT HANDLE THE GOOD FIGHT?
FAGGOT

>>378018613
>the only fault of fascism is that it collapses when attacked by multiple, overwhelmingly powerful enemies

>>378028653
DEM GHOOLS DINDU NUFFIN TENPENNY TOWER IS RAYSIS AND A SYMBOL OF WHAIT DEVIL BOI OPPRESSION
SSSSSSSHHHHHEEEEEIIIITTTTT
HANDS UP BIX NOOD DON'T SHOOT
I'M FIGHTING DAT GOOD FIGHT BY STAYING IN MY HEAVILY GUARDED BROADCASTING BUILDING AT ALL TIMES

>>378003834
This, fuck the wasteland. The sheer strenght firepower of the courier alone is enough fuck up every other faction.

>>378029246
Somebody post the comic.

>>378000521
Source? Iirc Mothership Zeta logs only state that they observed the nuclear exchange not acticely instigated it.

>>378030192
He's referencing cut content

House > Legion > POWER GAP > NCR > dude anarchy lmao

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I wonder what happened to the people I sent to work at the Aces Theatre when Caesar rolled into town

I bet Billy Knight got crucified for being a shitty comedian

>>378026174
>implying Todd would ever acknowledge NV for having existed.
>implying Todd would let Obsidian ever come near anything related to fallout again

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>>378030967
Childhood is thinking that Todd's the bad guy.
Adulthood is realizing that Todd wants to make more good RPGs like Morrowind but is being held back by the corporate executives at Zionmax and dumbasses like Pete Hines and Emil Whatshisname.

>>378025630

Legion is an unfinished edgy faction. The only reason people like it here is because they're contrarians.

>>378020173
Despite this based on the dialouge, the cast of followers and the comments made by npcs. It always seemed to me that the game was built around a female protagonist. Where as 3 is blatantly male.

>>378031318
>Adulthood is realizing that Todd wants to make more good RPGs
Funny since he's given no indication of that but he has given us indications of the opposite

>>378018829
>literally can't wait to become a cool as fuck old dude so i can cosplay with my kids as based Doman.

>>378031318
but Todd has a huge amount of creative control, he could make any game he wanted at this point

>>378031318
todd is definitely pushing for more fo4/skyrim style trash

>>378031318
>/v/ is so contrarian that people are now defending todd "liar for hire" howard

>>378031318
It's a shame really that most people consider him to be the big bad.
If he never existed we wouldn't have gotten Morrowind or the mod kit, which impacted TES and the rest of the industry, even if only slightly.

>>378029873
We need to go further, someone post the reddit edit

What are some good New Vegas mods
>Project Nevada

>>378029873
which one?

>>378034040
"Around ghouls, don't be a fool."

>>378033972
Project Nevada
I'm serious.

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>>378034112
fuck the _eddit version
>b-b-but muh racism

>>378034463
The reddit version is hilariously bad. They got their nu-male pube beards in a twist because the punchline referenced an A. Wyatt Mann cartoon.

>>378031328
I like Legion because of Raul, Vulpes, Caesar himself, and Ulysses.

The picture they all paint of the legion isn't really of a terrible people, but EVERY member of the legion you see in NV is the 'army' of the legion, not the people of the legion.

I feel they really needed some fleshing out, and even without fleshing out, their goals seemed more realistic than NCR's, because their totalitarian ways were objectively more superior in controlling a vast wasteland filled with shit that would kill you faster than the legion ever would.

Legion is also better for involved neutral parties, due to safer trade routes and little taxation. That's just an objective fact.

>>378034882
I don't know how you got that from Ulysses. Ulysses was very blunt about how shitty the Legion is and what it did to him and his family.

>>378035356
Yet if you confront Ulysses as a member of the Legion, you can convince him to put down his arms in 2 lines of dialogue and 0 Speech by calling him back to you. He realizes you're right and joins you, realizing that his ideals were dumb.

He was intended to be a follower, and in early development, a legion follower. He was designed to be one of the only sympathetic legion characters due to his problems with the Legion, much like Cass and the NCR.

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>>378034463
>>378034706
Hahaha, silly Anons. You can convey the same message without being a fucking racist scumbag, cmon

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>>378035895
Kek, wow.

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>>378035895
So this is how humanity dies, not with a bang, but with a whimper

>>378035643
>Yet if you confront Ulysses as a member of the Legion, you can convince him to put down his arms in 2 lines of dialogue and 0 Speech by calling him back to you
I am 99% sure that is a mod because I have never seen that and there is nothing about that on any of the wikis. The only way to get him to stand down is either through collecting the logs/ED-Es logs (and stating the proper things) or through speech checks.

>He was intended to be a follower, and in early development, a legion follower. He was designed to be one of the only sympathetic legion characters due to his problems with the Legion, much like Cass and the NCR
Cut content is irrelevant to lore and all of this was scrapped before Lonesome Road was even on the design board.

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>>378035895
>comic made for a community
>different community finds it
>What le fuck? Why wasn't this made with our community in mind?
Really activated my almonds

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>>378036252
Oh for fucks sake

>>378036356

No, the real problem is that they fail to understand the entire joke is racism so removing the racism makes the comic pointless. It makes more sense to ban the comic completely.

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>>378036252
Reminder that if anyone in this thread came from or still goes to reddit, you need to go back and never return.
Can you link me the thread, please?

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>>378036572
Here you go senpai
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/383zyw/fallout_3_karma_racism_removed_better_moral/

>>378036572
YOu may say this ironically, but I don't.

4chan and reddit are very different places, both in posting style, and in collective morality. If you post in one, you have no real right to post in the other.

And I especially hate the people who post on both, spit a really dumb, cancer opinion, and then justify their cancer by saying "Everyone goes to reddit"

No, not everyone goes to Reddit. Just you, and people like you.

>>378036527
I know, I was referring to their sensitivities

>>378036804
I wasn't being ironic senpai.

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>>378036572
>>378036767
Reminder that if you're from reddit you seriously need to fuck off

>>378034882
Legion is simply fascism.
It's needed in bad times.
Like in the political chart with hard times > strong men > good times > weak men >hard times

>>378037413
>I found the original funny! I'm not offended by the punchline that you felt like you needed to make kosher for our echo chamber website!
>le downboad squad xdddd

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>>378037413
Holy fuck this happened to me too.
>Make joke
>Pissy cunt gets mad
>Tell him I was just joking
>It's not a joke if I don't like it!
Reddit is such a fucking pile of steaming shit.

>>378038501
>using reddit for anything other than niche porn
go back.

>Leigon and House on top
I knew /v/ was full of alt-right edge lords and fedora tipping neets

>>378039146
>Implying
I only went there for a few months to troll faggots and shit post about how nuLara was a shit on the official Tomb Raider subreddit.

>>378039910
On top of what, niBBa?

>>378037413
Has humanity reached the reality the MGS2 ending depicted?

>>378038501
Yeah, people NEVER do that here.

>>378033972
WMX

I plan on getting New Vegas during the upcoming summer sale. Other than a couple hours in Fallout 1 I've never played a Fallout game before (I'm sorry but I don't like CRPGs). What mods should I get and what are some good quests mod? How much can you mod the game before it becomes unstable?

>>378038501
you have to go back

>>378041336
get JSawyer
it's the personal fix mod from the lead developer that makes NV closer to the game he wanted to make

>>378041336
don't fall for the project nevada meme
>NVAC
>NVSE JIP
>4gb patch
>Jsawyer Ultimate
>Legion Quests Expanded
use Mod Organizer instead of FOMM

>>378041336
I honestly wouldn't mod at all for your first playthrough. The only exception is if you're on Windows 8/10 because then NVSE and NVAC become required or the game crashes on startup. Also Zan's AutoPurge Crash Protector is a necessity on 10 if you don't want the game to crash every hour like clockwork.

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>>378041753
Or you can pull your big boy pants up and sort your mod order out and everything will be fine

>>378042154
I'm glad you think you're intelligent, but your reading comprehension really shows otherwise.

>>378041545
>>378041669
But Project Nevada looks fun. I don't care about autistic survival simulations. I just want an action game that actually has good storytelling for once.

>>378041753
No Bethesda engine game is good (or even stable) without at least a few dozen mods.

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>>378042438
>I honestly wouldn't mod at all for your first playthrough
I would have said this a couple years ago. But mods are pretty well polished and you can definitely run some big name ones with no issue if you want. At the very least I would run a hi-rez texture pack, a weather mod, interior lighting overhaul and some other realism polish. It really helps bring the game into 2017.

>>378042857
>>378042849
It's not related to fucking mods you retards. W10 Anniversary update literally broke the game and it can't be started without NVAC. Gamebryo RAM cache doesn't play nice with W10 so if you don't have something that purges the cache, the game will crash every 45 minutes to an hour. Jesus Christ, learn to fucking read or don't talk about things you don't know about. You just prove yourself to be fucking stupid.

>>378042857
>>378043057
Also the reason you go through your first playthrough in vanilla is to appreciate the game as it is without mods so you appreciate mods that much more. Seriously fuck off

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>Oh man, Nipton was soooo easy to destroy, everyone but us is just so weak
>he says while having lost almost half his men and had the support of a good dozen dogs

Oh Vulpes, why do you lie to me

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>>378043057
>I honestly wouldn't mod at all for your first play through. The only exception is if you're on Windows 8/10
I honestly would mod for your first play through. Especially if you're on win10

>>378043161
Nah. There are some mods that don't even touch the vanilla experience that are fine to install. Just don't install any that give you special powers, OP weapons or change story elements and you'll be fine.

>>378043443
>There are some mods that don't even touch the vanilla experience
Mods touch the vanilla experience by default.

>>378043393
His entire job is to lie to everyone about everything

>>378035895
>the only winning move is not to play the quest.
what fucking losers, I bet they google the endings to quests and get a walkthrough for the one they like most.

>>378043659
not modes like anti-crash and stutter remover

>>378043443
I fucking love that concept art

>>378040864
you dont get fucking banned for it here

>>378043737
So... mods which alter the vanilla state do not alter the vanilla experience? Just because you say it doesn't make it so. A MODIFICATION which MODIFIES the game MODIFIES the experience from the non-modded version. It doesn't matter what the MODIFICATION is. Anything that alters the default is no longer the default. Your mental gymnastics will never change that fact.

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>>378043659
So? The default experience doesn't include hi-rez texture packs, weather, or darker nights/interior lighting. I want this game to feel like I'm playing STALKER and mods let you do that while not changing anything about the story.

>>378044065
Nice blog how do I subscribe?