How shitty is the gtx 970 now?

not shitty at all

but buy a 1060gb if you can instead of a 970

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5H_1ZFN2EE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dhyjcnCylI

>>377994581
considering every new aaa game is made to be ran on a super computer to used be by scientists at national labs, the 970 is actually fine because its not like the newer cards are going to help you anyway.

>>377994581
stills runs everything on very high/ultra 60 fps 1080p

>BUT NOT THIS ONE GAME!!!!!
fuck you nobody cares.

good used card. new buy 1060 6gb instead.

I saw some go for 120 at craigslist. For that price its breddy gud.

Runs all Crysis games at 4k, 30fps
https://youtu.be/a0nl0Pdn3is

>>377994947
why would you even want to play any crysis game

>>377994581

I have one.
Have been able to run every game released on PC so far at max settings with no stutter except when using some weird shit like5000 or more spawns on GTAV or Skyrim

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>>377994661
>>377994797
580 is better in all respects except power usage.

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It's still good in the sense that it can still run every game and nobody who owns one should be replacing it yet.
Compared to a R9 390 the gap is widening though. 390 and 970 used to be within margin of error of each other. Now it's 11.5% difference.

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>>377996284
My 175 Euros RX 470 performs almost as good as a 400 Euro card.

Still satisfied with my 770 and 2500k

>>377994581
Very shitty, please give it to me

It was a hot item when it came out

>>377994581
The 970 is still a top tier GPU. If you are only on /g/ and /v/ you'd think everyone was running around with 1080s but that is not the case at all.

Anything that can get past the PS4's graphical quality and achieve 60 fps at the same time is considered very good.

>>377996769
You can get a 970 for like 150 easy in the states.

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>>377994581

GTX 970 owner here, can play everything that's not a completely broken mess at Ultra/High Setting, 1080p.

>>377994581
I have the astrix 960 it's so cute :3

>>377994581
1070 is the best price to performance card right now.

>>377994581
it's still within 10% of a gtx 1060 or rx 480 despite being a midrange 3 year old card. if you can find one for cheap just overclock it to 1500mhz and you're gold for the next few years.

better than ps4 poo and will be better than scorpio too

>>377998794
Your opinion is factually wrong

>>377998850
it was high end stop using the wrong term you retarded cuck

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>>377994581

its wose than a 1050 and costs 6x as much

>>377998794
the 1070 is the GOAT gpu right now. you can find them for just over $300 on sale and it's miles faster than these other gpu which are only like $70 cheaper on average

>>377998904
Nah, hes right.

>>377998996
950: entry level
960: budget
970: midrange
980: high end
980 ti: enthusiast

fuck off retard

>>377998904
Substantiate your claim without using memes.

>>377998904
it is right now, especially the ones that were available for $305 just last month. as far as i've seen nobody has actually done an up to date graph on this and tpu's ones are all using the old msrp.

>>377999162
>$160 is entry level
>$200 is budget
What does that make $100 cards then?

Please stop taking cock up the ass from a company with 60% profit margins that jacks up the price of their cards every generation.

>>377999653

970 costs $550 tho

1050 costs $180 ok it aint quuite 6x as much but still they get like the same performance

>>377998794
Pascal is shit like Kepler

Hopefully Volta will deliver like Maxwell

>>377999653
>What does that make $100 cards then?
You're better off using your CPU integrated graphics

>>377999784
>970 costs $550 tho
>can buy 970s for $150 easily

bruh

>>377999784
>1050 costs $180
I just bought a 1050ti for 115 bucks and its nowhere near as powerful as a 970, especially if the 970 is OCd which it will be because I don't think there were many if any reference 970s

OC 970 beats an OC 1060

Found an old Geforce 7900
What can I run on it

>>377999653
there were no $100 gtx 900 series cards. the 950 was the first entry into the gtx 900 series as the 750 ti was the $100 card from the previous generation. as far as the 900 series goes, the 950 was the entry level.
only this generation of gpu do we have the $60 gt-1030 and the $90 gtx 1050.

for amd it was the same last gen. 950 competitor from the rx 3xx series was the r7 370 which had an msrp of $150, only $10 less than the gtx 950. the r7 370 wasn't even tahiti and was a rebranded hd 7850.

>>377998210
Same here. Not gonna need to upgrade in the next 2 or 3 years.
I don't play new releases at all because I wait some years to price drops and discounts. And there are a lot of good indie titles out there that run perfectly on this card like Hollow Knight. That and my steam backlog make me have enough games for at least the next 4 years without needing to upgrade.

>>377994581
it will run literally any game in existance (that can be played on PC) in 1080p.

>>377998210
hows performance in the latest games?

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>tfw fell for the amd/nvidia meme

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>be a fucking leaf
>pc parts cost an arm and a leg

>>378000223
Yeah, we really hit the sweet spot. I'll upgrade when 4k high Hz monitors are cheap, no sooner.
>>378000332
Pretty good, i rarely buy stuff on release though, typically they run a lot better after a month or two when patches come out. Naturally i don't play on ultra, but i really don't see a big difference in 1080 regardless.
I haven't played anything that couldn't run at 60fps, though i must admit i haven't gotten around to playing Witcher 3 yet even though i own it.

hey /v/, whats a good card under $300? should i go with something in the 900 series?

>Tfw got a GTX 770 2GB
When do I upgrade lads?

>>378000495
sucks to be a third worlder

I was disappointed with the whole VRAM debacle, the gpu gets stutter even in older games like shadow of morder

btw does anyone know what came of that lawsuit against NVidia?

>>378000572
Same here. Waiting for the volta release.

Now that this thread exist?

If I'm building my first mustard race PC ever and say I want to spend anywhere from 500 to 1500 bucks what would be the best cost-performance card? Is the 10 series just a meme or is it worth getting, say, a 1070 over a 980 (or whatever the equivalent is)?

No upgrading, I'm building from the ground.

>>378000572
I upgraded my 680 (which is essentially the same thing) to a 1080 last year. The improvements have been massive - 2-3x fps at 1080. Higher resolutions are now playable when previously I've been hitting 2GB VRAM limit

>>378000543
you'll probably be able to get a gtx 980 for under $300 used but if you're looking at new, the gtx 1060 and rx 480 exist for $200-$250 which are basically neck and neck but the rx 480 does pretty shit in games that aren't amd sponsored or indie games.
they're about on par with the gtx 980 but i think the 980 pulls away in the averages when you compare overclocked vs overclocked.

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>>377996284
>I bought a R9 290 vapor X for 320€ when the cheapest 970 was 350€

>>378000193
750ti wasn't previous generation. It was the same generation as the 900 series, they just branded it differently because they were selling 700 series cards alongside the 900 series.

If you think $300+ is midrange you have fallen victim to the marketing of a company with a 60% profit margin.

>>378000659
no it doesn't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COEwgUI6D3w

>>378000731
you can build a whole new pc with the latest ryzen 1600 and gtx 1070 for around $800-$900. this is probably the best price/perf build you can get. the 1070 is a goddamn monster and the ryzen 1600 is the best value gaming cpu at the moment (aside from the $60 pentium).

>>378000659
You could have claimed $30 last year. It's too late now

http://www.pcgamer.com/heres-how-to-claim-your-30-nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-settlement/

>>377999969
>OC 970 beats an OC 1060

no. the oc 970 just about matches a gtx 1060 aftermarket gpu. OC vs OC the 1060 is way faster than the 970.

>>377994581
>3.5gb
>old
>not buying 1060 or 1070

If you already have a 970, that's fine, but if you're out looking for a new card, don't.

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>R9 290
>1440p monitor
>Still going strong

Feels good /v/

>>377994581
whats a good graphics card that can run 1080p 60+ fps high to max on most games, I could care less for 4k.

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>>377999160
>>377999160
>>377999263
>>377999360
>hurr durr im retarded.
and stop samefagging dumbass

>>378000912
>they were selling 700 series cards alongside the 900 series.

no they weren't. the 700 series production stopped as soon as the maxwell based gpu's came out which where the 750 ti and the hole 900 series.

>>378001303
whole*

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>>378000495
I want to die

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>>378000976
RX580 is better value
Half the price and not that much weaker

>>378001369
>SLI is slower than a single card
What kind of benchmark is that?

>>378001369
is this bait?

>>378001369
>AMDrones always using Hitman benchmarks, a game literally optimized for AMD cards

>>378001507
hitman has dogshit optimization. i own it. fps can be at like 100 fps at one minute and then drop to 15 at the next. on average, the gtx 1070 is about 30/40% faster than the rx 480 and gtx 1060.

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>>378001513
No
Nvidia just really sucks at DX12

>>378001670
It's a good thing that there has been absolutely no reason to use DX12 then. It brings no image quality or performance improvements and it's bundled with the OS that violates my privacy. On the other hand, I got +20 fps when switching from OpenGL to Vulkan renderer in DOOM

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>>378001276
Same
No reason to upgrade desu

>>378001303
You can still buy GT 740, 730 and 710 cards brand new. They always were the low end counterparts to the 900 series. Nvidia just didn't brand them 900 series because "lol rebrands are bad m'kay"

>>378001293
lmao kys faggot

>>377998715
This. I bought the exact card in OP's pic a year ago and it's doing more than OK

>1050 ti (2016) is stronger than 770 (2013) and just a bit below 780

Hot damn, so will the budget card in 2019, the one that doesn't require pin connectors, be stronger than a 1070?

should I neckbeard out and buy a 1080ti and a 1440p 120+ hz screen, or will my i5 6600K bottleneck it?

1080ti worth it?

Got sli 970's that overclock for shit all, what a fucking disappointment

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>>378001824
Vulkan isnt that different in terms of performance

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>>378001670
terrible bait

>>378002152
These percentages really mean nothing. Just list fps and let people make their own conclusions. Also, I like how the chart doesn't list two best nVidia cards to make AMD look better.

Go for 1080Ti or wait for Volta before making the jump to 4k?

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>>378002069
I remember too when my 7970 was pretty much top of the line, not too many years ago. Now new cards easily get double the frames. Shit goes fast.

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>>378002280

>>378002069
Sure, assuming it's 7nm or 10 nm.

>>378002069
well since nvidia are the only incompetent company in the industry right now, probably. amd doesn't even have motherboard powered gpu iirc

Should I upgrade from my 670 yet?

>>378002528
460 but it's a piece of shit

>>378002528
competent*

>>378002539
Yeah, that's about 1050 level.

>>378001276
That's animatronic, isn't it? That snek is way too adorable.

>>378002539
Can you decide for yourself?

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My new budget card. How'd I do?

>>378002651
Can you?

>>378002668
if that's the 460 you're a fucking idiot

>>378002668
Is that a 460/560?
If yes you fucked up big time.

>>378002703
Can you?

>>378002069
>>378002518
Probably not, TSMC is a wee bit late on their 7nm node. Nvidia might have a card at the end of 2019 unless they really eat the early fab costs like they did with Pascal (and that hurt margins Bad). They'll tide over with that "12nm" process, that's just an improved TSMC 16nm, which still has the 20nm BEOL.

That or they fab at Samsung or Gloflo but I doubt that.

Given how quickly AMD wants to ramp Navi that may fulfill the criteria, but all signs point to them going for absolute performance crown with Navi. It'll be interesting.

>>378002393
Volta won't be too special desu, GV104 will perform around GP102 range, and I've no clue how long it'll take GV102 to trickle out of the Titan zone. No way GV100 comes to consumers, die is too large.

>>377994581
I have a GTX960 4gb.

It can comfortably run all the games I have / want at 1080p 60+FPS on medium to high settings.
I'm sure it can run any game I throw at it.
I'm very comfortable with it and won't upgrade until it dies.

>>378002789
I'm hoping they'll repeat the ~30% bump the 1080 got over 980Ti, that would put it into comfortable 4k territory.

>>377999932
>>377999969

in straya

and yes, the 1050 is not as powerufl at the 970 but its like within 5-10%

>>378002393
Voltra is gonna be 40ish percent better if the stuff about the supercomputer using it is true. Good, but not as much as 900-10 series.

>>378002725
>>378002730
It's a 460 2GB I found for $80. What's a card I could find for a better value?

>>378002789
nah, they'll release 10nm cards first. 7nm isn't even near. Maybe 2020

>>378002892
1050

>>378002892
Anything used

>>378002859
GV102 probably will. But again that'll be quite late to hit reasonable prices.

GV104 is a forgone conclusion at this point, comparable to GP102.

>>378002892
>2 (two) GB (gigabytes)
Return that shit, sell it, whatever, and just buy a 1050 ti. It's like $130 USD

>>378002893
TSMC 10nm is a mobile focused process like TSMC 20nm was. It'll never be used for a GPU. Volta is "12nm", Volta+1 is 7nm, yes late 2019 / 2020. AMD will in all likelihood beat them to 7nm in early 2019.

>>378003091
>AMD
>beating anybody to anything

>>378003002
>>378002920
It was $20 more and I hate nvidia's software ecosystem.
I needed something cheap.
>>378002946
I'll consider it next time.

>>378003185
Oh you got cucked by /g/.

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>>378002230

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>>378001367
>mfw I bought 1070 for 560$

>>378002959
>GV104 is a forgone conclusion
Based on what exactly

>>378003091
The biggest problem with 7nm that all manufacturers are trying to solve is very low yield. They can make the devices on it but it's not profitable yet.

>>378003139
AMDs roadmap has them beating Intel to 7nm (10nm with finfet) for CPUs as well. Glofo can compete with the big boys now; it's not just TSMC and Intel anymore

>>378003139
Not AMD itself exactly, Gloflo is early on 7nm, it's already in risk production. AMD has already confirmed ES samples of Navi will tape out this year.

>>378003343
>roadmap
Call me when it transforms from dreams to reality.
Remember Intel roadmap having Cannon Lake in 2016?

>>378003395
Zen was on time, EPYC and Threadripper will be on time, and Raven Ridge is expected to be earlier than expected. AMD and Glofo have their shit together,

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>>378003329
Yeah GloFlo is using DUV quad patterning for 7nm risk production. Actual production will use EUV.

>>378003395
2015 actually. However, GloFlo's 7nm isn't a farce.

>>378002103
Nah, unless you play arma or something. Then you might get drops

>>377994581
>they're still marketing it as a 4GB card
Why do corporations get away with this shit

>>378003262
>>377999360

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>My GTX 770 has better benchmarks than a 1050ti 4GB that came out 3 years later.

I wish GPUs had interchangable VRAM because if not for just being 2GB it seems perfectly adequate for me.

>>377994581
I just got paid today, I was thinking of buying a gigabyte gtx 1080. Anything I should know anons?

>>378003839
because it has 4gb of vram on the pcb

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q9NhLD

How's this?

>tfw when the 1070 is 30% more expensive in my country

>>378004741
If you can afford it, why not. Looks good.

>>378004741
Make sure to upgrade your bios asap. My friend bought the same MB and it failed to boot with the stock one.

>>378002668
The 460 2GB isn't that bad
A used R9 380 or HD7970/R9 280x might have been available at a similar price and significantly stronger, but its not a bad card except for the lack of VRAM
And it doesn't consume a lot of power, so thats nice

As long as you don't go above 1080p and don't expect high settings you will be fine

>>377995987

No it's not. The 580 is just a massively overclocked 480 with no OC headroom at all, just like the 390 was an overvolted overclocked 290 with the same fuckall OC headroom. A stock 970 has a meager 1000hz core clock and you can easily OC past 1500+. OC vs OC the amd cards don't stand a chance.

>>378004741
Avoid the MSI board and get a better PSU
Give me a minute and I will post a better version

>>378000508
>Naturally i don't play on ultra, but i really don't see a big difference in 1080 regardless.

I have been noticing this as well. It is so hard to tell the difference from ultra to high or medium nowadays. Back in the day it used to be something so obvious. Most of the demanding shit on games nowadays are usually some irrelevant fluff that changes fuckall in terms of visuals but tank your fps by half. I have a 970 and my old 760 still and a few days ago I slapped it back to my pc and was surprised by how little of a fuck I gave about higher graphic settings.

>>378003262
>this chart
>recommending the non Ti 1050 and the 3gb 1060 over the other ones

>>378004741
>>378005248
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hytGYr
Faster RAM, more storage (trust me, you WILL need it) and a much better CPU and board
Moved down to a RX580 to not make it more expensive (does the job just fine at 1440p), but you can get the 1070 if you want

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So which parts should be immediately changed?

>>378005509
>much better CPU and board
Meant PSU and board, appearantly I'm too stupid to write

>>378005554
Get a RX580 and more RAM and you're good

>>378005554
>>378005795
This. Also, consider getting an SSD for your OS and at least some of the games

>>378004064
Except for the fact the 770 doesn't have the bandwidth to go over 2gb. There's a reason that back then no one recomended the 4gb version because it was literally a scam, just like the retards with their 8gb 390 which can only use about 5.5gbs before shitting the bed.

>>378006095
Except that the 390 has really high memory bandwith
512bit memory bus really pays off

>>378000495
>Live in Alaska
>Parts take weeks to a month to get here. Or insane shipping

I feel your pain, kind of

>>378005509
>580
>does the job at 1440p

You people are utterly fucking ridiculous. And jesus fucking christ, 650w for that build? Are you insane? Also, any sane person would downgrade the SSD to 120gb in order to keep the 1070 because it really is worth a shit just for the OS and most used programs, but you don't need to do that. Not to mention there are drives with better value like the crucial ones. And a seagate drive instead of toshiba? ATX case in this age? Fucking please.

>>378004741

Here, a non retarded build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TV2yr7

Don't fall for the ATX meme.

>>378006212

And it still won't be able to use beyond 5.5 GBs of vram.

>>378002148
If you got the money yea it's worth it, make sure you pick up an aftermarket, I recommend he EVGA FTW or Strix both have the best cooling so far.

>>378005554
Just get a new GPU and SSD and you're good.

>bought a 1070 instead of my 970
>cba to sell 970 it lost like 50% of its value

Maybe I should build another PC and put it in there for some reason.

>>378006694
If the Zotac 1070 is much more expensive than the other 1070s in my country, what's the best alternative?

970 is fine. Don't upgrade till next gen.

>>378007568
Make a mATX living room station with it.

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>Still using HD 6870

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Console peasant here. My card has been peaking a lot lately when it used to be at a constant temp. I can hear the fan whirl as the temp peaks, which I never heard before. Probably been the case for the past few weeks as I've started gaming on it again. I checked for dust that I could see in the case and it was nothing big. Blew what was there out. I assume my nearly 5 year old card is dying, though google tells me it could be a lot of things.

>>377994581
was better than my Asus r9 290 when i bought it but also way more expensive.

now it's shit compared to the 290.

nvidia is useless unless you go for high end, and has been this way for a while now.

>>378009145
i have a 6870 in a box next to my desk, good card but for some reason it fucks up everytime i install drivers now.

it was ment to go to my brother's computer but that fucking freeloader is already using my really old XFX 5770 which is still working fine.

>>378005554
I recently upgraded my build with a 1070 and an extra 8gb ram. Brilliant decision

>>378002872
900-10 series was only like 20-30% better, pretty poor for a big die shrink but they had no competition

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>>377994581
Is that who I think it is?

>>378006694
>1440p meme
>16GB ram meme

you're a faggot

>>377994581
I bought a 980 for witcher 3 and it still plays everything max or near max 1080p, playing Prey on max with 100+ fps at the moment. No reason to upgrade if you're still at 1080p, I usually only upgrade gpu when I can get twice the performance for a decent price so I wait 2 gens

My 2500k needs a replace so I'll probably go all out around black Friday and get a 1440p Freesync monitor/ryzen/vega build. Pretty much runs 100% cpu usage on any 2017/2016 games.

>>378006095
770 was planned obsolescence, that card got outdated real quick compared to 280x or the older, 7970

Luckily nvidia put decent amount of vram on the 900 and 10 series, the 5/6/7 could have all had a little more

>>378010306
>Luckily nvidia put decent amount of vram

kek

>>378001279
RX480 or a 1060.

>>378004980
>My friend bought the same MB and it failed to boot with the stock one.

Wait, is this a common problem? That's not the mobo that I got, but I've recently upgraded to a 1070 and had to do the exact same thing. Nearly shat my pants when that shit didn't boot. I've never experienced anything like that.

>>378010378
580 is a much more sensible purchase.

cheaper than both 480 and 1060 and faster, also has 2GB more vram than the best 1060.

nvidia has no place in the mid-low end market

>>378010306

I had 670, 770, 970 and now 1070.
Only the 970 fell face first into the mud.

>>378010504
Oh right, I forgot the 500 series came out, sorry. You're absolutely right.

>>378010347
Compared to the previous gens the 900 series has lasted ages. It's almost 3 years old and still decent, 580 was shit after a year because 1.5 vram, 680 capped the 2gb real fast too

10 series all have a good amount to last a few years instead of just enough for 1 year

>>378010579
>still decent

Its not, its worthless ever since 1xxx series exists.

>>377994581
Worst than the 290 these days.

>>378010541
Why would you buy a 770 to replace a 670, basically same card

970 still plays games fine, 770 was left in the dust a year after release

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When can we expect new nvidia cards

i think my 970 is dying lads

how long will a 980 last me?

>>378000495
>be a nordcuck
>parts can easily cost up to $1000

>>378003262
That chart is horseshit.

>>378010685

Because it was a good deal, I could sell the 670 with little loss and get an upgrade for a minor cost, they are not the same card.

What an arbitrary system to go by, If some new game gets released the 970 can't handle suddenly its worth has changed for you.

>>378010642
For buying new yes obviously, just like any other new generation that gets released. But the 970 is still almost 3 years old, retailed at like 300 dollars launch day and still plays games at near max settings. I'd call that decent

Basically same performance as the 1060/580 at the same price except you could of had it 3 years ago. Do you think the 10 series will be worthless when the next gen releases? Obviously not, it will still max games for a few years

>not making your own custom GPU from scratch

fuck off reddit

>>378010946

>$300 3 years ago

Maybe in your tax free magical land, it $400 less than 2 years ago, now a 1060 is little more than $200 and destroys it.

>>378010872
Yes but that's not the case, it's still playing games near max

770 is a 680 which is 5% faster than a 670.

>>378011075

Maybe today.

>>378009823
A 1080 destroys a 980 by far more than 30%.

>>378010931
It also came with a massive price increase. 1070 launched at the same price as the 980, 1060 at the same price as the 970.

1070 is 30% faster than the 980 at the same price, that's a 30% increase. 1070/980ti are the same performance.

>>378011050
False, use google it launched at 329

And obviously price/performance gets better each gen how dumb can you get

>>378011364
>False

Again, only your freedumb land has no taxes on its electronics.

>>378011169
1080 launched at 980ti prices though, at 20-30% faster

1070 launched at 980 prices, at 20-30% faster

For a die shrink from 28nm which we was on for 3 gens to 16nm I was expecting more. The last die shrink the 660 beat the high end 580. 580 was the cream of the crop card, before titans and shit.

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>Got a 1060 6gb
>Don't feel any desire to play fucking video games

the GTX 970 is still relevant, at least in my country.
It's not sold retail anymore, but because so many people bought it back in the day, there are always a lot of them available used and at good prices

a new RX 570 for warranty and Freesync is a better option though

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what should I change /v/ please help

>>378005274
Thats because no one makes games for high end pc anymore. It's made for console then ultra is tacked on last minute which barely makes a difference but halves the framerate

>>378011889
upgrade the cpu ram and mobo

>>378011889

the whole thing

jesus

>>378010504
No it's not. It's £25 more than the cheapest gtx 1060 6gb whilst also being the same speed at stock vs stock but uses 100w more power

>>378011889
Everything

Sell that as a 'gaming pc' on ebay

>>378011889
CPU RAM and MOBO.
That card is still really decent unless you want 60+ fps on ultra.

>>378012104
Depends where you live senpai

I'd take 580 + Freesync over 1060 + gsync any day, way cheaper for same experience

>>378012104
If you go midrange AMD is the way to go. IF you buy NVIDIA get at least a 1070, anything below that is a waste of money.

>>378012234
Variable refresh is a meme. I've been gaming on a cheap £200 32 inch 1080p tv I bought 3 years ago and i can still play at high framerates with fast sync.

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r8

>>378013337
broken on delivery/10

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>>378013337

>>378013337
looks all ready for bw remastered pham, best of luck on battle.net

>>378010718
Why don't you replace the fan before it dies?

>>378013337
>7700k
>non overclockable motherboard
>8gb ram in a new 2017 build
>RGB LED

1/10

I'm looking to get a new PC to replace my laptop with a 640m.

If I want to play mostly slightly older games in no more than 1080p, will a 1050Ti be alright?

>>378018498
A 1050ti is overkill for older games, assuming y
you mean 2015 or less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4TnDVxvGrs

>>378006694
The 580 is just fine for 1440p
There is little to no difference between ultra and high settings
And mATX sucks ass

>>377998715
Can confirm. In the same boat.

>>377996769
Keep on dreaming, poorfag.

>>377994581
very good card for 1080p 60fps. For, the really shitty optimized games, just set shadow quality to Medium and you have silky smooth 60fps 1080p on everything.

>>377994581
I've had my MSI 970 since around launch, plays basically everything that isn't a complete piece of garbage port on the highest settings with slight adjustments that barely impact visual quality.

Temps stay below 60C at all times.

So basically, i wouldn't buy one now because there are cheaper and better alternatives, but it'll serve me well for a long time but i'll probably upgrade to Nvidias next flagship card, 1180 or whatever they'll call it since i'm getting a 144hz 1440p monitor soon.

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>its a /v/ technology thread

Time to laugh.

>>378021190
It's slightly less awful than /g/'s amdfaggotry

>>378021190
Here comes the bi/g/ot

>>378000495
get a job and you can easily afford one witting a week of work

>>378021485
/v/ has no idea what it's talking about when it comes to technology. The fact that you posted

>amdfaggotry

Proves it, i bet you're one of those fuckers who post AMD wojaks on /g/ constantly.

>>377994797
Im no tech expert but i cant figure how the fuck i can still run new shit (nier, surge ecc) at 60fps with everything ultra or just something unfluential at high and not ultra. Is this the truly will of the machine god?

>>378021652
/g/ complains about being unable to shit on the toilet, drink their coffee and read the newspaper before their OS loads beccause of SSDs, fuck off

>>377994713
Nice bait, Newer AAA titles work on even the shitiest potatos. The times where AAA titles requiert the newest hardware are long gone

>>378021652
When someone irrationally supports something even when it's inferior, they've fallen prey to a cognitive bias and aren't speaking rationally. Address them as such.

>>378021671
cuz that games are not demanding at all

>>378021898
What is a "demanding" game? I dont play a lot of games.

>>377999784
>550$
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125789R&cm_re=gtx_970-_-14-125-789R-_-Product

>>378021740
thank the consoles for that

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>>378021796
>irrationally supports something
>just saying to not buy i5s and i3s because they are bad value thanks to the Hyperthreaded Pentium and ryzen 5 1600
>amdfaggotry

Alright.

390x here it's limited vram will be its major limiting factor.

Apart from that it oc well but struggles over 1080p.

If u can get a 390 cheap do it.

480/580 are over rated and over priced but use less power

>>378021740
>Newer AAA titles work on even the shittiest potatoes
Just because my computer is capable of running witcher 3 but on 2 fps ultra low settings doesn't mean it works

I thought you people didn't even play AAA games?
What /v/ approved games need a strong gpu?

>>378021485

/g/ is such a fucking cuckfest that if you even mention nvidia or intel they'll start chatting shit to you. i literally asked about configuring some dual monitor settings in a gpu thread and all i got was how bad nvidia is and how much better amd is. they refused to give me an answer because i owned nvidia. i only got my answer when a fellow nvidia user saw my post and told me his settings.

I had this card and only just recently upgraded to a 1080ti.
It was running everything I threw at it with no problems.Only upgraded for future games.

>>378022103
The only GPUs worth buying:

1050 ti
1060 6gb
570
580 8gb
1070
1080
1080ti

>>378022103
NieR: Automata

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>tfw no Ryzen 3 in my taco country

>>378022210
>crap tier
>poorfag tier
>amd shit
>amd shit 8gb
>monopolio tier
>best tier
>best tier with oc

>>378013337
>Weeabo signs
Please stop using autism and change it to english

>>378022210
>PC gaming is cheap

>Still using a R9 390
>Still works very well on every modern release, only requiring minor tuning for some titles

>>378022380
or learn another language you ignorant cunt

>>378022479
it is if you buy cum covered used 5years old hardware you found on goodwill

>>378022343
>amd shit

How to spot someone who has no idea what he is talking about and only gets his info from linusshilltips, probably owns razer products as well.

>>378022479
1050 ti is cheap as shit nigga.

>>378022617
how to spot an amd poorfag user

>>378022545
Not him
>learning a whole new language that will be useless to you besides reading an image online
Why are you so retarded?

>>378022758
>amd poorfag user
I love whenever people shit on amd with no reason other than "ew amd"

>>378022617
AMD is for first time PC builders because after that they never buy AMD again

>>378022479
BOO HOO HOO
WHY CAN'T I GET 144 FPS AT 4K WITH A 1050 TI?!
SO EXPENSIVE
>plays his shitty ps4 locked at 30 fps

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Building a small, 500 burgerbux budget PC for video editing and shitposting on /v/. Thoughts?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sHQ9Yr

>Best bang for your buck: AMD RX 580
>Best bang for your buck if youre an nvidia fangay: 6GB GTX 1060
>Best card if you are stupid as fuck: GTX 1070
>Best card if you have more money than you know what to do with: GTX 1080 TI

All other cards are irrelevant.

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>>378022758
:^]

>>378022874
>Ew AMD

>>378022767
>learning a new language useless
classic americunt

>>378023043
>doesnt use AMD
>defends them
Ok kid

>>377998715
At 1080p, Dishonored 2 is the only game I can't run maxed out with a stable 60 fps and that's because the engine is a mess.
Oh yeah and I couldn't turn texture resolution to the highest in RotTR.

>>378023149
Because i know what im talking about, you do not. You only consume memes and shit out memes.

I bet you watch linusshilltips.

>>378022886
How the fuck are you going to play vidya without any gpu bitch?
That's fine I gues if you just plan to play up to ps1 emulators.

>>378022856
cuz amd is shit tier

>>378022882
>/r/pcmasterrace autist sperging out and blaming Sony
Nice obsession, I'm not a sonyfag though
You can't deny that PC gaming is expensive. It costs a minimum of ~$700 to have a decent PC to run most games, not even all games
Even if you're not trying to get 60fps 4K on ultra settings on the newest AAA games, it's still expensive.
>inb4 you're just a poorfag!

>>378023043
>win10 education
>64gb ram
>2 gpus


wtf is wrong with ur build?

>>378023043
shit pc

>>378023319
>pc's are just for gaymen

/v/ in a nutshell

>>378023319
It's not that hard to modify the names in speccy

>>378023067
Nice strawman
I said that specific language was useless, the only useful Asian language if you're not living in their country is mandarin
Learning languages has tons of benefits, but that doesn't mean it's useful to learn Ukrainian unless you live in Ukraine
And that's just an example, so don't make some shitpost like
>omg he thought it was Ukrainian dumb Americunt

>>377994581
>mostly player games that are old or starting to age a bit
>on a 770 could manage 60fps by gimping the settings just fine
>upgrade to a 1060 3gb after it dies
>all games can now do 60 pretty on best settings except for siege
consider what games you play, 1060 is best if you're not constantly playing AAA titles and want them to look ace

>>378023280
Kill youreselve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNUahVQso0Q

>>378023280
700$ - 60fps - 4k - ultra settings
just pick one with that budget

>>378023561
omg he throught it was Ukrainian dumb americunt

>>378023614
>used new parts all for the total price of $300
Enjoy your broken ass PC

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>>378023229
I don't watch shitty youtubers but I owned a 6970 from 2011 until 2015 and AMD has so many shitty problems with games that nVidia doesn't have. Even now when I have an nVidia card I still see threads on Steam all the time of specific problems only Radeon cards have. I remember this one from GTA 5.

>>378023759
>LOOK MOM I AM B8
Pathetic, anon.

>>378023229
Yup, you're right. But good luck trying to explain something that's not memes to this board.

>>378023863
>used new parts all for the total price of $300
Yes this sounds 100% like a good idea there's no way there's a good reason for it being that cheap

>>378023773
AMD isn't the only one who has problems.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-csg8JItkUg

>>378023942
You trust more Sony or shitendo than a PC made out of brand parts? stop with your shitty b8, seriously.

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>>378023989
According to the comments people with AMD cards are getting it too so it's not specific to nVidia.

>>378024132
>BUT MUH SONY MUH NINTENDO
Obsessed.

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>>378024206
Have a final (You).

>>378024163
Thats funny, because this is an old bug that was fixed. Nobody should be getting it, i will admit, AMD used to have a lot of problems. But not anymore. They're drivers are arguably better than nvidias now thanks to that crimson thing they did.

And they're CPUs don't suck donkey anus anymore.

>>378023043
wtf do you use this for

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>>378024365
AMD still has problems, you never see these weird specific problems with nVidia cards.

>>378024684
>2 year old bug that was fixed

You're running out of arguments lad.

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>>378024760
All I have to do is google "(game) + AMD glitch"

>>377995005
because g r a p h i c s

>>378023231
>No GPU
>What is APU

That aside, I only planned on using it to capture footage of /vr/ games in 480i and lower

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>>378024869
Wow look at me, i can do the same thing with nvidia.

>>378024869
>Just Cause 3 being an unoptimized piece of garbage
>AMDs fault

I guess everyone forgot how FPS would drop to the 30s even with a 970.

>>378025031
R7 a shit
Have fun anyways, I guess it will work for ps1 and less like I said.

If you're gonna buy an old card buy the R9 290. Out performs that shit for the same price

>>378022886
>investing in DDR3 and FM2 now

Yeah enjoy your obsolete hardware

Is it possible to get a constant 60fps in Fallout 4 with a 970? I've turned a bunch of view distances down as well as putting shadows to medium and I'm still getting frame drops in Boston.

>>378026038
He clearly said he is just going to shitpost and play old shit, so he doesn't need new shit, kys retard

>>378026324

Than he could at least get a pentium g4560, so he could upgrade to something newer if he wanted.

>>378026324
He's still a moron for not getting a G4560 instead. That would mean he has an actual upgrade path AND a stronger system.

>>378026230
Yeah.

I have a 970 but I have 16gb DDR4 ram and i7 6700K and I get 60fps ultra in everything on 1080p this includes fallout 4, Nier and even deus ex mankind divided.

>>378022886
get this intead

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/myDWLD

>>378026742
>pro gaming mobo
Retard
"Gaming" anything is overpriced shit

>>378026880
I thought he would maybe want the wireless capabilites of the mobo.


Get this if you don't:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X3zDVY

>>378026230

Unlock the framerate in the config
Turn shadow distance to the lowest
godrays off

>>378027034
> asrock shit

Or, you know, this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wvwsr7

And now we can even upgrade because we aren't limited by the PSU.

>>378027137
Rebates are a scam so you did right, 500 usd

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>>378027137
>Gigabyte mobos

>>378014410
Wait, can you replace GPU fans?

>>378027249
Still a step up from ASrock.

We can also do the MSI pro-vd

>>378027316
Are you living under a rock? ASrock motherboards aren't shit anymore.

>>378027310
Sure.

You can also replace the whole cooler. Arctic has some nice aftermarket GPU coolers.

>>377999653
"I don't have integrated graphics, but I need something to output a picture for my virtual machine host" or"dude I have a Dell"

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>>378000495
>Ausfag
>New 1080 ti is around $1100-1$200
>mfw got 4 for $250

>>377994581
About 5 - 10% slower than a 1060 in most games. Runs almost everything on Ultra 60fps. If you have one no need to upgrade now.

>>378027249
gigabyte mobos are pretty solid if you're a poorfag not trying to upgrade for a while. honestly if he's going for a $50 case and matx board you could rig up something super cheap and have it work. if he really doesn't care about modern game performance he could get a cheap amd 6 core for the video editing like the fx6300, a cooler for ~35 and OC it to 4.1 or 4.2ghz. i'm probably going to get a million disgusting meme faces in response but it's insanely affordable. gtx 660 is also disgustingly cheap these days to the point where you might as well grab it if you're going to use the integrated graphics anyway.

wouldnt know i got a 980

I want to make an amd build, will the 6300 with a 750ti handle games okayish?
My current main build is a i5 4440 3.1ghz, 1060 6gb and 8gb ram 1600.
I just want to run games okaish, not at high, just medium.

>>378027865
The FX would again lock you into obsolete hardware, and the only time you're getting any advantage is in raw INT number crunching. It's just not worth it to go with the old AMD CPUs. And by the time you're spending on a cooler, you can also afford a Ryzen 5 1400 which will blow it out of the water.

>>378028065
Why? You're current build is better.

>>378028065
If you want to make an AMD build, go Ryzen. FX is simply shit. There's no way around it.

>>378023186
I play dishonoured 2 at 60+ but I have a i7 7700k

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>>377994581
I'm still running on 650ti boost and feel no need to upgrade
I suppose being an aging nostalgiafag pays off some times

>>378028250
Well it is a luxury I want because I come visit my sister sometimes in the main city, and her laptop sucks ass.
I want to have a side system to play some games.
>>378028323
I wanted to go ryzen ofc but there are no ryzen 3 here in my taco country and even the cheapest 5 is way too much for a system that I will barely use.
Or should I just get one of those 300 usd intel builds?

>>378028714
>but there are no ryzen 3 here in my taco country
They aren't released anywhere yet.
> Or should I just get one of those 300 usd intel builds?
If you want an exploding-tier power supply and no upgrade path sure. What I'm saying is no.

Sounds like the G4560 path is the right thing for you as well.

>>378028143
the thing is, it's so damn cheap it almost doesn't matter. one of my friends in the midwest got a gigabyte78lmt-usb3 with the 6300 at a local place for ~70 bucks during some promotion. don't get me wrong, i don't fully disagree with you. however if i was in his position myself, just wanting to play or stream old games i would build that system with fairly cheap 8gb ram and just sit on it for a while until the ddr4 and ryzen cpu goes down a little bit and then rethink my upgrade. plus there's no reason you couldn't use the cooler in your next system.

>>378028685
if you're still okay with running a res below 1080p there's no real reason to.

>>378028875
I got a spare power supply that worked fine for a 750ti and barebones hardware, so the psu isn't an issue.
I will just get the cpu, ram, mobo and a 1tb drive.
I should be good after that.

>>377994581
>tfw got ops pic 2,5 years ago for 200 bucks
>Still holding up preddy gud
>Only lacks Vram for VR
Memecard meme gave me a gud card for cheapo that lasted almost 3 years.

>>378028941
>one of my friends in the midwest got a gigabyte78lmt-usb3 with the 6300 at a local place for ~70 bucks during some promotion.
Extraordinary rebates always skew the prices, duh.

I have one. It's still pretty decent. Can run shit on high with 60+ fps unless it's a bad port or something.

>>378027316
ASrock>Shitbyte

>>378029108
it wasn't a rebate though, it was just an in store sale. granted he was a bit "lucky", but you can order them new for about 130 bucks right now.

>>377996769
new 970 cost 179euros in my country (but there is only few stores who still have them in stock)
Its actually really good buy right now

>>378011889
Get the best MOBO CPU and RAM first wait to upgrade the gpu

>>378000976
>no it doesn't
for me it still does. Some 970s were manufactured differently than others

Still rocking my R9 290. These cards are great and it's not worth buying anything new unless you truly are planning to play everything on Ultra and 2K at 60+ fps.

>>378030981
>Some 970s were manufactured differently than others

no

>>378030981
This is not true.

>>378030981
Learn how GPU hardware is actually manufactured then you learn how this is impossible.

Who else 960 here

>>378033138
All the smart people got a 380 instead, sorry.

>>378033138
seems really popular based on steam

>>377999162
I have GTX 960. It's a great budget card.

>>378033221
wrong

>>378033578
You gonna wait for the 1160? 1060 6gb is pretty fucking great currently but dunno if worth the upgrade.

good

>>378021190
>implying that most of /g/ knows anything about tech
go back to your leenox and desktop threads

Anyone /670/ here?

>>377994581
>4gb

my sides are still recovering, stahp

>>377994581
Considering the price, it's pretty darn good.

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>have 970
>get 1440p monitor
>can't max out games anymore

shit

>>378035624
Retard

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>>378035624
This is the reason I stay with 1080p

I clearly remember a decade ago when I went from 1280x1024 to 1080p. I was pretty disapointed since I couldn't max my shit anymore and the screen was bigger so I didn't even notice the added resolution that much.

I have never experienced 4K yet so I will just ignore it because I can't miss something I haven't experienced yet.

>>377994581
i have a 960m and i am considering suicide

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>finally upgrading from a 750 Ti to a 1070
>can't figure out which 1070 to get

>>378035928
Kys frogshitter

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>>378035624
Maxing out is a meme, very rarely there is a noticeable difference between medium and very high, and you can still mix and match settings to get very good results without much of an FPS hit.
Some settings in some games like certain postprocessing effects, shadow resolution, etc can be tweaked to get unnoticeable differences to everything maxed out but with much better FPS.

You can also switch from MSAA to SMAA injectors for a good FPS boost for an almost as good result as long as your framerate is high and your monitor/resolution is fine. For example you don't need MSAA at 1440p if your monitor is around 24-27 inches, you can do just fine with SMAA.

>>378036261
just get the one that is cheapest

>twf rx 480

0 problems
Driver updates make the card better
Max graphics every single game
Under 300$

>>378036485
>very rarely there is a noticeable difference between medium and very high

This is false.