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please give drk info thanks
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>>377969371
>From what I've seen thus far all dots that aren't part of an actual combo have been removed
This part is true. All jobs have seen a one DoT reduction (if you include Aero) except for BRD who still has VB/WB.

As for SAM, there's another WS they have that is similar to the old Touch of Death for MNK in that it doesn't break combos but is on the GCD. It gives 10 Kenki to encourage you to keep it up on time. Media embargo is up on the 31st, you'll see by next week.
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>thunder aoe
>600+ potency aoe
>three instant casts every few minutes
As a blm main I'm diamonds.
That said I will be trying rdm, looks pretty cool.
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>>377970432
Do we know if thundercloud works on the aoe thunder?
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>keniki
Please fucking fire Koji right now.
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>>377970706
>implying a massive fucking weeaboo like Koji wouldn't get every Japanese word right
Blame the battle team that typed it in.
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>>377970565
>>377970432
It does work. Yoshi-P got Thundercloud and spent it on Thunder IV. We're looking at some INSANE AoE bois. BLM king of AoE again.
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>>377970172
DRK and WHM are going to share the bed in the cuckshed!
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when your bar reaches 100, linkin park plays "bleed it out"
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So what will be the next event to bribe people into PvP?
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>>377970706
>people actually believe Leaker-kuns lies
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>>377970853
>Summon Bahamut
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>>377970964
It was already confirmed
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>>377970914
nier
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>>377970964
I just want to shit on Koji.
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>>377971043
Why does some guy on his fucking twitter posted "damn shouldnt have leaked that stuff...." Literally anyone could say that for any reason without proof.
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>>377970853
230 potency AoE on every enemy AND resetting the DoT is kinda fucking disgusting honestly. What the fuck.

>mfw Thunder IV or 5+ mobs and I get Thundercloud over and over and over
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The potencies just sound big because you're used to earlier ones. The numbers will keep getting higher each expansion and they wanna put a gap between tanks and DPS anyway.
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>>377970432
>aoe tc procs
>flare/convert
>foul as a finisher
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>>377971187
Potencies are just factors. There's no reason for them to get higher with each expansion.
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>>377970896
They're going to share the bed because WHM is PLD's girl and DRK is cucking the PLD.
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>>377971187
There's also the fact that it looks like DoTs and Cooldowns are being reduced in general so they have to make up for the loss of those through higher potencies.
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>requiecast
>holyholyholyholy

such a good time to be a paladin.
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As stupid as it would have been, I'm a little disappointed SAM didn't get an attack that changes depending on how long it's charged, like Cyan.

It would have made planning the rotation great.
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>>377971543
It's not based on time, but their iaijutsu does change effect based on which sigils you have charged. It's a similar concept but doesn't turn them into another Wanderer's Minuet.
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>>377970172
I can't WAIT to play lvl 70 DRK. Can't wait to see all the new shit and changes.
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>>377971478
Holy Spirit also has a 25y range, meaning that PLD is the only tank that can reliably DPS without being in melee range.
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>>377970172
im trying to get into this game. I play WoW currently but my friends are currently dropping the game temporarily while we wait for 7.2.5 to drop to resub then, as there's nothing for us to currently do other than gear.

the 2.5 second global is a massive turn off for me. what's so appealing about this game and why should i play it? I know you guys know everything about be, so list some good qualities about FF14 that might sway me
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>there are people itt that couldn't stance dance
sickening tbqh
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>>377971640
Nah I just mean a button that you hold down for 8 seconds to unleash a 1000 potency attack like in FF6
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>>377971187
>between tanks and DPS anyway.
Aren't you forgetting healers? SCH and AST were putting out close to tank numbers in 3.4 too.
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>>377971851
>b-but it was inconvenient!
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>>377971773
WOW = 1111111111A1111B1111111C1111A
XIV = 1AB2CQ3CZX4D567CSDRT74567XCEW¨
YOU'RE WELCOME
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>>377971645
Is that motherfucking Golbez armor???
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>>377971478
>using holy spirit under requiescat

thats a DPS loss because you cant auto attack during casts.
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>>377971773
As a current xiv player and former wow player i would just say dont even bother. unless you have no other mmo to play. Imo you wont get used to the gcd. But who knows you can always free trial up to 30 or whatever it is. The player base is also a bunch of cancer.
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I wish I knew how to play AST, the new skills are visually pleasing. The aoe that blows up into constellations was so pretty.
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>>377972028
But its by far your highest damage move.
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>>377972028
430 motherfucking potency every 2 seconds under requiecast 20% damage buff and (maybe) fight or flight 30% damage buff (without taking foe requiem into account). It's all speculation now anyways, I'm sure DRK and WAR are gonna be amazing.
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>>377972028
Requiescat before the MP dump, Holyholyholyholy on adds. Total Eclipse away once you've run out of MP. Circle of Scorn in there at least twice. Sit there like a dumbass once you're entirely out of both resources.
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>>377972302
Holy Spirit is confirmed single target
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>>377970172
Apparently the beta testers said DRK had a really difficult rotation, keeping up Blood and MP separately might be really hard
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>>377972131
What's hard about it? You keep drawing until you get an expanded balance or you kill yourself because you failed your group.
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>>377971995
Its Odin chest (NPC version).
>>377971187
If that SAM leak is real, 800 potency is a lot. They already have a 720 potency move. Yoshi showed a 10k crit.
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>tfw they've confirmed that they're never, ever going to fix any of the dumb shit in the ARR MSQ because any criticism of it by new players will now be met by torrents of JUST BUY A SKIP POTION LMAO ARE YOU TOO POOR TO PAY TO NOT PLAY
Like it's not horrible, it's just pockmarked by fetch quests and the cutscene placement in dungeons is poorly handled. It just needed some tweaking.
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>>377972441
finally a smart job for smart players
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>>377972302
Its single target. Though one of those videos did show a shinier circle AoE that wasnt Total Eclipse, I swear I remember it.
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>>377972464
That 10k crit was their 420 potency move btw, Kasha.
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>>377972614
They should just increase the rewards for MSQ roulette and make the cutscenes unskippable.
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>>377972441
Yeah, that was layla bell who said that. He also said DRK is looking very strong for the expansion.
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>reach the second Titan Hard in the MSQ
>remember I want to play SCH more
>try it
>forget Titan's rotation
>never succor before the raidwide aoes
>hardly mitigate damage at all

SCH is harder than I thought to get used to.
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>>377972464
>Yoshi showed a 10k crit.
A 10k double crit off of an estimated 420 potency attack.
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>>377972771
Must be a significant change. I wonder why they didn't touch on DRK at all on the LL.
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>>377972662
>>377972365
Fuck me then, ignore.
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Why would anyone play anything other than Summoner or Black Mage?
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>>377972834
DUDE

420
2
0
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>>377972807
Not really. No one succors after you get deployment for the "THIS IS A BIG AOE SO I'M GIVIN YOU 20 SECONDS TO ADJUST" moves and Indom for the big dick heals

You'll get it right in time
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>>377972634
THOSE TITS
DAAAAAAAAAAAMN
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SCH is fun!
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>>377973120
Hard mode is synced to 50 though, don't didn't even have deployment. I remember using SS at least though.
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>>377972935
To make PLD seem more hype I guess. It really is lame they didnt touch DRK at all.
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Didn't they get one of the FFXI developers to work on job design?
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>>377972771
He said all tanks are looking really good this expansion.
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>>377972770
They'd have to quadruple the rewards to make it worth running some of them with cutscenes unskippable. Especially the last ARR MSQ.
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So I just hit 60, since SB is only a month away is there any point in trying to get shire gear/raiding savage? If not, what should I do for a month?
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>>377970385
What the fuck no, I love Scourge.
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>>377973435
Yeah but which is bringing MUH DAMAGE so we can know who to bench over a 1% dps loss this time around?
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>>377973661
You'll need to be ilvl 235 to finish the HW story so start with that
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>>377973661
Hit 60 with your other combat/crafting/gathering jobs
Farm materia to make mad dosh in SB
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>>377973661
You need ilvl 235 to run the end of 3.x content. Buy gear if you're rich, use lore/whatever scrip gear you can manage. Run the 24mans to supplement whatever gear you need to upgrade.
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The way to fix dissipation is to have it give the Scholar a big boost to their job meter in addition to its current boosts.

>Send fairy away because don't need big heals right now
>Fairy leaves the battlefield and charges up for 20 seconds
>Comes back with a full meter ready for the next phase
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsVyhjRVAu0
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>>377973935
West Coastie leave.
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>>377971851
>>377971953
>cleric stance used to take skill!!
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Job leveling potions when?
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>>377974140
june 16
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>>377971889
>All the new shit Tanks and DPS are getting DPS wise while healers only get a filler upgrade (and lose a DoT in the case of SCH)
Might as well go tank or DPS for SB at this rate.
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>>377973296
Is that supposed to be good or bad? Original 4.0 was also loaded with xi shit.
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>>377973960
Only Xeno and Happy can make a 40 minute video on a 30 second clip.
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>>377974350
>playing a healer expecting big dick DPS

You're just as retarded as the "I ONLY EXIST TO HEAL" crowd. Why would anyone bother playing a pure DPS job if healers could crank out high DPS?
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>>377973741
>>377973854
my friend made me i250 gear so i'm good on that front
>>377973804
might do that, but crafting/gathering is genuinely the most boring shit, at least leveling it up
whats the best order to level all of them up?
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>>377971063
Damn. This PvP meme must stop.
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>aoe thunder

Sweet fucking lord think of the thunderclouds
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Any actual confirmation that summoner and scholar are losing a dot? They are the dot class it doesn't make sense
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>>377970172
please give Aranea DRG armor thanks
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>>377974412
except xeno is actually good at the game and has a strat named after him loser
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>>377974630
Just because Xeno and some friends call something by his name enough to catch on with a few dozen other people doesnt mean hes e-famous. Go ask in shout and most people dont even know who he is.
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>>377974594
prolly miasma II
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>>377974630

>a strat named after him

Which one? The innovative "tank in dps stance" strat?
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>>377974630
>a literally who made a literally what for a literally who cares game
They're both equally irrelevant.
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>>377974773
he is e famous lol. i play with him a lot and hes one of the best players ive seen and a damn good theorycrafter/strat maker
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>>377974630
The Xeno Maneuver: An advanced FFXIV technique wherein the player spikes his computer chair into his mother's floor so hard that she's too afraid to ask him how the job search is going this month.
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>>377970779
Isn't he the one who puts memes in? He also put in his kids name in for a quest instead of just translating
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>>377974821
I really hope
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>know everything about MNK rotation
2700 DPS with 270 weapon
>don't know shit about SMN rotation
2600 DPS with 255 weapon
I have no idea what's going on.
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>>377974594
Well Scholar is losing Aero for sure, since its not a healer cross class skill.

Miasma II falls into the worthless tier, so that could probably disappear too.
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>>377974594
I assume Bio will become Bio II and Bio II will be instant.
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>>377975141
But isnt that less AoE until way high level?!
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>>377974916
>Isn't he the one who puts memes in?
For quest names, yeah. I don't know why that triggers the fuck out of /v/ so much.
>He also put in his kids name in for a quest
No, he put it in a random NPC's text box that appears as you walk past. And you wouldn't even notice it if he hadn't said it in an interview.
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>>377972073
like this? >>377971958
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>>377974594
SCH only used Bio II and miasma, and Bio II was instant.
Also SMN is getting a Bio and Miasma upgrade.
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>>377974528
>WHM outdps me on experts, so they should do so little damage it barely matters if they DPS or not.
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>>377975493
They do tons. You're way exaggerating these big potency skills that are on 2 minute cooldowns compared to your spammable ones.
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>>377975396
>>377975141
That's dicks. I liked having three dots at once. What's going to happen to tri disaster?
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>>377975220
Because localizations shouldnt be localizations it should just be direct translations! Even if we don't get any references!!!
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>>377975396
SCH uses Bio II, Miasma and Bio. Bio is the instant one.
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>>377972073
>The player base is also a bunch of cancer.
The playerbase is much better in this game than WoW, it would be much better if WoW refugees kept away because we don't need the entitled whining. 9/10 times an ex WoW player shows up in the game and they do nothing but bitch and complain about how it's not enough like WoW instead of learning a new game and taking it for what it is; same genre, similar playstyle, different paradigms.

XIV has a much more personable community than WoW and it would be nice if it stayed that way instead of being overtaken by a bunch of retards who can't handle being civil in an online environment.
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Just finished getting SCH's 60 quests finished, have played before but I'm pretty rusty. How should I handle level 60 content with all these new skills?
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Heal sluts are finally gonna learn their place, anyone that takes cleric stance buff over Rescue/Lucid Dream are gonna be laughed out of instances.
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>>377975493
>butthurt WHM crying about wanting to DPS
Color me fucking surprised, play a DPS class then retard.
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>>377973935
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/325185-Reporting-Issues-Resulting-from-the-North-American-Data-Center-Relocation/page28

>280 posts

Why do they keep posting? By now it should be obvious that nothing will be done.

I just don't understand....
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>>377975869
Any Scholar with Lucid Dream is going to get bounced out of every party.

And "I need to take Esuna" is going to be the new "I only Cleric Stance when it's SAFE"
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>>377972614
>Have burned through it several times
>Will probably burn through it a few more times too
We'll just give all of them a nametag that says "Hi my name is Credit Card Hero"
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>>377975820
Dungeons? Prepull adlo and midpull rouse + whispering drawn. Otherwise let fairy do the work and if shit hits the fan you have lustrate and indom.
Keep 1 aetherflow stack for emergencies until you know you can ED it and refresh the stacks

For bosses dissipation comes into play as extra EDs
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All the new changes sound fantastic, enough to get me to start playing again but then I remember that the server migration tripled my latency to the game.
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>>377975815
>People complaining about thier classes being nerfed .
>Compared to literal ERPing, underwear mogging, macro spamming weebs at every corner in ffxiv.
>worse.
I don't think that bait is going to work vs people who have actually played both games, anon. I don't think ive been more disgusted at a community in any game more than FFXIV.
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>spells interrupt at 0:04 now
HAHA
FUCK YOU YOSHI
FUCK CALIFORNIA
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>>377972441
Jesus shit, I already have 30+ buttons, how am I going to manage this?
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>>377976439
Download more fingers.
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>>377975803
It uses Libra>Miasma>Bio II (instant)>Broil II
Then again we barely know shit, and the HW skill showcase was incorrect on a lot of shit.
At this point Miasma II could have become a real AoE DoT like Aero III or something.
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What's the best order to level all the crafting/gathering jobs?
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>>377976439
My plan is to begin performing part of my rotation with the erection that DRK's SB rotation is going to give me.
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>>377975869
>5% damage for 15 seconds, every 120 seconds
>Only 5 slots
They might aswell just deleted Cleric Stance all together.
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>running MSQs to prep myself for SB
>doing some obviously super serious Scion business
>gotta investigate some Sylphs and check if they have a primal
>their Elder is disappeared and could be turned into an evil fairy or some shit at any moment, obviously super serious
>get the word out to the guards to keep an eye out
>stop by the bar to harass locals and see if they've seen a fairy anywhere
>bartender laughs and says he's seen one, BUT FIRST...
>next thing I know I'm on a wild goose chase looking for an anteater-mouse-hybrid and trying to jerry-rig some sketchy looking alcohol
>mfw
Alright, freeze the frame, scratch the record, hold up, how did I get here? This shit still has the fiery emblem over it so I'm pretty sure it's still the Main Questline, but wasn't I supposed to be hunting for Primals and trying to stop the planet from dying or some shit?
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>>377973935
I hope they fix it for SA at least
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>>377973935
Can you fuck off to reddit already yoshidrone
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>>377976371
starting running in a line, not stopping, and try to mount your chocobo over and over, what does the timer stop at on average?
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>>377976326
based on what, /v/? nobody gives a flying fuck about half the shit posted on here, the general population doesn't care about or participate in ERP, the general population doesn't participate in or care about FFlogs or meta or any of it.
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>>377976660
Shut up and go find that cheese before fighting Titan anon.
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>>377976660
Welcome to the 2.0-2.x storyline.
You're everyone's errandbitch and get to deal with loads of useless filler.
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>>377976008
And thus, the game continues its process of WoWnization.
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>>377976984
>WHY CANT I DO AS MUCH DPS AS A DPS CLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS NOT FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>377976840
00:15-00:40
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Jesus rogue has a ton of useless fucking abilities and traits
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>>377977105
What are you even shitposting about? Go away.
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>>377976854
I posted my comparisons between the communities in response to a statement. Everything you just posted is pointless, I'm not arguing whether or not the "general populace" cares and I never even mentioned FFlogs. Don't know why you bothered at all? to make this post.
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PLD is going to get a built in surecast trait now that it has even more spells, r-right?
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>>377977359
inb4 tempered will prevents spell interrupts
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>>377977359
Just learn to not cast during tankbusters.
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>you're not even Almost Holy
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>>377976653
>>377975869
Yeah I'm not sure what they were thinking with the new CS stats.
Raging strikes is pretty lousy, its long cooldown causing its overall dps gain to be somewhere around 2% if you use it at every opportunity, which nobody does because it actually has use for helping burst something before a mechanic goes off or such.

Healers already do less damage than every other class, giving them 5% more damage for 15 seconds (during which they still have to heal) is so minuscule that taking stance is just throwing away a skill slot.
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>>377977219
that's excellent, I was getting that on HW launch with a VPN from the East Coast, I bet it's like .8s now for me
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>>377977576
You say that but, PLD small holy has a range of 25y.
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>>377977637
It doesn't mean anything m8, I clip fuma and shit in instances, everything feels like shit to play.
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>>377976984
Boy, you sure are fuckin' stupid aren't you? They're not killing healer DPS, they made it easier to do and they even made healer damage spells work off your primary stat, so you can seamlessly heal the dumb DRG standing in the fire and then turn around and shoot lightning out of your ass at the boss.

Despite this, you're somehow extrapolating that healers somehow don't get to DPS anymore and that it's not worth playing a healer because you don't get to big dick DPS like DPS classes. Hint: Tanks aren't outdoing DPS, either. You seem to think that it's somehow good for game balance if healers are tossing out the damage of a pure DPS class, and if that were the case, why would you ever take anything but healers and tanks to a raid?

Somehow, having classes act within their distinct roles is "WoWnization"? I'd laugh if this statement wasn't born of such profound ignorance and misunderstanding, given WoW has for such a long time diluted the lines of class role and specialization through the hybridization of almost every class in their game, but yeah, keeping DPS above healers on damage, that's definitely going to just turn the game into another WoW. This must be a WHM thing, since the only faggot WHM in my static also does nothing but spam chat with his parses every trash pull in ex roulette and bitch about having to actually heal.
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>>377977810
Finally, somebody who can fucking READ.
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>>377971851
Literally anyone could do it, it's terrible gameplay. At least when the "stance dancing" involves on or off and not actually moving between several stances.
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Is there bigger waste of a zone than Azys Lla?

The music is great and there are tons of points of interest like the laboratories full of chimeras or the huge chunk of Meracydian soil with crystal trees and shit except there's nothing to do in the zone but FATEs. Not even beast tribe quests or something.
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>>377977576
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>>377976660
If it makes you feel any better, during the first few missions of HW an NPC gets bitch-slapped by his father for being about to send you after bear asses, because you're a well-known hero by that point.
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>>377977810
Only the vocal WHM are the cancerous ones, most are pretty quiet and are fine with the changes. Its only the outliners making the rest of them look bad.
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>>377978006
Sightseeing log is interesting, but it's not much. But hey at least you get to go there to see Gerolt get drunk and complain about work again! :^)
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>>377971851
It's only even considered semi-difficult because of the game's garbage unresponsive combat system. 5 second recast time with a 2.5 second GCD through a garbage ping and 30% packet loss, it's literal guesswork whether that shit is going to toggle off or get recast and fuck you in the ass for another 5 seconds.
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>>377978006
That is how Allagan stuff in this game is, all mysterious and shit, with little information as possible. There isn't much to interact in Crystal Tower either.
You still can find some minor lore in Azys Lla, from drone NPCs and fishes you can catch (like compound #666, the so popular "prototype lalafell").
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>>377977710
Range isn't radius though.
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>>377978103
healer DPS is awesome tho for the record
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>>377978678
>That is how Allagan stuff in this game is, all mysterious and shit, with little information as possible.
I'd say we possibly know just as much about the Allagans at this point as we do current city-states. It's fucking everywhere, and we have plenty of NPCs who spill information for us like Doga, Unei, and the Azys Lla nodes. Fractal is even a museum with panels you can read for lore.
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>>377978006
Azys Lla is pretty much the worst. The relic shit is there, but there's really no reason for it to be there anyway since Idyllshire would've made a fucking ARSELOAD more sense. I don't think
At least talking to all the nodes and doing the quests was kinda interesting.
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Just finished the MSQ. Fuck, I don't think I've ever felt this bored during a finale. The whole Papalymo thing fell totally on it's face. Heck, the cast themselves hardly cared. Also the audio quality for voices seemed pretty low, though I haven't played for months until today so maybe it was always that poor and I'd just forgotten

I really hope Stormblood picks up the story telling
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Elezen are for ______.
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>>377978480
I'm a 100% they rushed the zone because they couldn't finish it before the release.
There are tons of paths obviously made with ground mounts in mind and yet you get the ability to fly almost instantly after entering the zone.
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>>377977810
The issue is that healers were never anywhere close to DPS on damage in the first place, and for a good healer, the changes amount to a 10% penalty to DPS for 75 out of every 90 seconds, and a 5% penalty to DPS the rest of the time. And there was really no good reason to do it that way when they could have moved healer damage to Mind AND kept Cleric Stance as a toggle with a 10% buff.
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>>377978921
Reaching the tall leaves.
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Any tooltip leaks ahead of the nda? i heard some were floating around.
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>>377978909
Nobody cares about the scions.
Talking about that.
REVOLUTIONS IS SHIT
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Did you know there are people that don't think Papalymo will show up in Omega raid ala Louisoix?
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>>377978909
Everything after Final Steps of Faith was just a prologue for Stormblood. Nidhogg's death was the actual finale of Heavensward.
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>>377972771
>beta testers

lol
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>>377978986
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>>377973435
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>>377979136
Hissatsu is 750 I thought - where did the 800 come from?
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>>377979254
You're probably thinking of Setsugekka at 720 potency which is the charge up quickdraw thing.
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>>377979136
>extends blood weapon and blood weapon

???
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>>377979376
effects
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>>377976180
>280 posts

Compared to the days of shitposting we had that doesn't seem like that much
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>>377979376
Blood weapon effects. There are new blood weapon effects. Why does nobody realize this when they read it?
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>>377979376
"Blood Weapon effects"
Might be implying there are certain buffs or debuffs you can put up only with blood weapon now.
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No slackin' boy, git to work.
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>>377971645
Wait when did the game have actual cape physics?
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>>377979672
On Odin, since launch. That's a model swap.
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>>377979136
man SAM feels like you're playing a fighting game or something with having to build and spend meter. I can dig it
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>>377977810
No one is talking about healers doing more DPS that DPS jobs, you retard.
What people are worried about is DPS getting so powercreeped that DPSing as a healer will barely be worth it to begin with.
But hey, if you want healers to only heal, good for you.
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>>377979136
>800

EIGHT HUNDRED

WHAT THE FUCK

T.Monk
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what data center can I play ninja on if it's unplayable on my regional dc?
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>another popular 2 handed class forced to be tank

enjoy killing your groups by killed by unskilled bandwagoners
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>>377979719
>model swap
>au ra tail

???
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So the Garo event still doesn't have an end date?
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tempted to resub now and grind up my Summoner Anima weapon to have Bahamut wings on book while summoning Bahamut.
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>>377978909
how far am i from the end
I just rescued estinien, fought nidhogg again, and he left forever and took off his drg gear
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>>377979913
Odin copies the model of the last person who killed him.
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>>377970853
>>377970432

>Meanwhile, SMN loses its only spammable AoE

IT'S NOT FAIR! WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE AOE KINGS! BAHAMUT USE GIGAFLARE RIGHT NOOW
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>>377979818
>2 minute recast
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>>377979817
Raids aren't balanced with Healer DPS in mind already. Your dps just makes it faster and provide possible mechanic skips.

That's how it has always been, and how it's going to stay, and I don't know why you think otherwise.
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>>377978102
>Proceeds to babysit and play hide and seek with an entire Moogle tribe.
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>>377979818

Get fucked faggot. You all were talking mad shit the past two days.

Now SAM is cucking you in your own expansion AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>377979986
You're almost there. You have two dungeons, two solo instances, and a couple of really long cutscenes.
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>>377979986
That's 3.3ish.
You have maybe like 15 to 20 more quests to go.
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>>377979986
About 4-5 more hours worth of quests, give or take. Two more story dungeons and a couple of solo instances along the way.
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I played a while ago, started right after heavensward (but stopped before ever getting to it) as a lvl 60 Summoner iirc. Going to resub tomorrow, but is Summiner actually good and I should continue as it from 60 or just play another class? I dont remember anything about it aside from using garuda egi and spamming dots
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>>377979818
Number can still change.
Maybe it will 1k
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>>377980050
did you even progress during gordias?
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>>377979848
What are you talking about, SAM is a dps
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>>377980074
How does it feel to be my chakra battery cuck?
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>>377979136
Maybe SAM is the new job for me with BLM trading big hits for sustained damage.

>no raging strikes
>have to cross class swift cast now.
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>>377979913
Tons of NPC's unique outfits are actually just glamour gear, not the body of the character, we just don't have access to them as players.
For example, Minfilia's puppet dress (pic related). Massive tits are actually part of the dress.
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>>377971773

If WoW classes were half as challenging to play as FF14 classes, 90% of the WoW playerbase wouldn't be able to clear in LFR.

You'll be praising that 2.5 second GCD once you're actually raiding.
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>>377980194

How does it feel to be cucked by SAM bulls bitch?
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>>377980190
Is it? I heard they're making it tank because they originally wanted it to be a parry tank in XI but it ended up switching roles with NIN
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>>377980186
Why does that matter? Yoshida has gone ON RECORD MULTIPLE TIMES that the dev team doesn't balance raids while taking healer dps into account.
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>Summoner 5.0
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>>377980194
>M-MUH CHAKRAS
>does no damage even with them
>meanwhile SAM has EIGHT HUNDRED POTENCY on a CD comparable to DRG jumps
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>>377970432

>weebs still lazily equating megum with blm

get some taste you bottom feeding trash can
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>>377977810
>>377978958
This.
Changing that shit to a Raging Strikes-like CD just means I'm dealing less damage overall. They should've kept it as a toggle with just the potency swaps so it doesn't punish shitters too hard but still rewards good stancedancing with extra damage.
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>>377980281
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10;mid=1141871674105963075;page=1
>Q – Samurai was presumably meant to be a tank, but Ninja ended up overshadowing it. Are there plans to make Samurai more of a tank?
>A – Samurai was never intended as tank. They are actually looking at ways to make jobs better at what they currently do. For example, make Samurai a better Damage Dealer, and make Paladin a better tank.
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>>377980281
You heard wrong. Not only SAM is a DPS, bur parry is being removed from the game.
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>>377975681

Unless they removed Miasma II, you still have 3 dots at once. If Bio and Bio II are getting merged, I assume Miasma II will get buffed.
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>>377980281
If you're going to shitpost, at least put in the effort of knowing what you're shitposting about, senpai
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I don't get it. Do I have 100 ping or 140 ping? Or is it that I have 240 ping?
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>>377980210
>trading big hits for sustained damage
>multiple fire 4s and an even bigger dick Foul spell
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>>377980458
I quit the game after I was cyber bullied
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>>377976660
YOU WANT HEAVENSWARD?

FUCK YOU

GO FETCH TEA FOR TATARU
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>>377980510
Just download WTFast and check there
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>>377980510
one is to the old server and one to the new server
prob in a week or two you will be changed.
You currently have 120 ping
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Xenosys "aggressive tanking" Vex
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>RDM is turning out to be mash shit out as hard as you can during a short period of time proc based caster MCH.
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>>377980006
>bahamut probably uses garuda's ai

he'll cast gigaflare when he's good and ready and not a second sooner
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>>377980645
>>377980636
I guess 120 ping isn't that horrible. It's not like I play ninja anyway.
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>>377980750
Xenosys "DUDE WHAT IF I JUST DROPPED GRIT LMAO" Vex
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>>377980159
>Maybe it will 1k
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>>377980339
From the Stormblood job actions video, you can see that the Monk's new Spirit Bomb ability lasts around 16 seconds.

With 2 tank and one melee dps with the monk, considering they all have a 2.5 GCD, the monk will get around 18 chakras for the entire duration of the ability.
18 chakras = 3 forbidden chakras = 3 x 320 = a total of 960 potency.
Plus the physical damage boost.
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Haven't played in awhile. Paladins getting a damage buff in Stormblood?
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>>377980927
I think it's implied with their new hardcast magic nuke, whirlwind/cleave
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Do we actually know what RDM does yet?
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>>377979672
Its using the trainer that allows you to wear NPC items.
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>>377979540
I wonder if it's something as simple and boring as there being one effect for when you're in Grit and another when you're not, or if there's actually a third layer of class mechanics to manage sandwiched in between MP and Blood.
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>>377981049
>magic
>magic
>magic
>teleports behind you
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So with cross class skills going away, does this mean there's no reason to level other classes in a roll then?
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>>377980052
At least you get the Kan-E-Senna to help you with some of the tasks. Too bad it wasn't her sister.
And with that simple task she managed to help you far more than a certain admiral that have been doing fuck all since patch 2.5.
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>>377980927
Yes. One of their new oGCDs is basically Spirits Within, except the damage scales with your MP rather than HP, and if you use it at >80% of your MP, you get a 20% damage buff.
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>>377980123
help
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>>377981049
+Flares, stones and aeros
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>Stormblood will punish "aggresive tanking"
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Are there any jobs that don't have an obnoxious gauge plastered on their screen?
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>>377981240
I hope this is real...
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>>377980750
Xenosys "give PLD an axe and call it a day" Vex
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>>377981049
Casting one spell has the chance to proc a faster cast of a connecting spell. So the idea is to chain things together so you're just blasting shit out with no cast time. They have a buff that increases their magic damage by 20% but drops by a certain amount every few seconds, and the same buff also increases nearby party member's physical damage.
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>>377981383

all of them

until stormblood hits, then none of them
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>>377980325
yoshi's """"dev"""" team released pepsiman, royal pentacle, and brute "infinite phase works" justice, followed by ebin forwardback where the third boss was harder than the fourth

have you considered that they are not very good at balancing
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>>377981408
Just watch the last live letter.
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>>377974580
whoa shit is this asanagi?
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>>377981408
Yoshi hovered over the tooltip on stream and people translated it. It's real.
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>>377981049
You ever play Shantotto from Dissidia? Get ready for HIGH IMPACT SEXUAL CASTING
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>>377980750
>>377980862
>>377981435
fuck off to your xeno jerk faggots
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>>377981383
You're going to fill up your Katana Meter and like it
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>>377981486
>brute "infinite phase works" justice
Brute Justice is one of the greatest fights in the game next to Nael, faggot.
>ebin forwardback where the third boss was harder than the fourth
Cruise Chaser only seems more difficult because once you have the team synergy to beat him, you'll keep it going into Alexander.
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>>377981527
Granted, it could still change between now and Early Access.
Which would be a fucking shitty thing to do but it's possible.
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>>377981112
>And with that simple task she managed to help you far more than a certain admiral that have been doing fuck all since patch 2.5.
Goddamn, has that cunt actually done anything at all? Both other commanders did SOMETHING, even if it was inconsequential, they at least tried to do something while she just keeps making funny faces trying to sound pissed, no wonder those chucklefucks have two pimals breathing on their neck, because they have a whole city of douchebags
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How did you all keep your sanity when the level cap was 50? I only recently started so 60 is all I know but holy hell do those jobs feel boring at 50.
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>>377981675
we didn't know any better, basically
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>>377981646
Titan is 100% her fault. He was summoned in the first place 15 years ago because Limsa broke a peace treaty because they got greedy and wanted the Kobold's mining operations. They've had the capability to summon him for 15 fucking years and she never once considered just not killing fucking Kobolds anymore.
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Does Paladin -use- his shield now?

My dream design for PLD would be based around a manual block button; a sort of stance that prevents all actions but greatly reduces damage. And then you have a bunch of skills that allow you to weave in and out of the stance in various ways to deal damage/heal/whatever, rewarding mastery of knowing when and where to block things

I just feel like the thing that sets PLD apart, having a shield, is currently incredibly underutilized
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>>377981618
>Brute Justice is one of the greatest fights in the game next to Nael
Here's why I don't raid anymore. The community is too autistic so SE will continue shitting those horrible fights where you spend 80% of the time bored out of your mind before finally getting to the phase that you have to "practice"
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>>377981794
thats what they initally wanted to do with sheltron
look forward to SB pld i think it will be better with timing blocks and being in that stance that blocks damage for everyone behind you at the cost of no attack
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>>377981725
Even that late quest in HW that had the botched summon of Titan the Kobolds talked about it how they were fucking tired of their bullshit, they keep making promises and breaking them a short time after, even with all the jewing and backstabbing I think Limsa is a worse place to live than fucking potatoland.
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>>377981557
>xeno jerk
If you say so.
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>>377981794
ps3 limitations

prease understand
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>>377981991
For reference, this was Titan back 10 years ago when they still thought peace was an option. But an extra decade of pirates fucking murdering them pushed him over the edge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO2QFM2a8PQ
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>>377981383
The gauges are optional, if you're good enough to track your resources without them
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>>377982085
>those old arcanist weapons
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>>377971108

What Twitter guy? I don't see anything from searching.
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>>377981435
This would have been way too powerful.
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https://www.twitch tv/videos/146267937

Comfy music starting from 2:03:36 if anyone is interested
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anyone switching mains? Stay scholar master race personally.
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Just resubbed to get ready for Stormblood. Haven't played since 3.1.

I want to grind a new class to 60 after playing SMN, SCH and DRK. I'm tending between DRG, BLM and AST. Which one would you recommend (considering viability, how the class will be in Stormblood and fun)
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>>377981794
Sheltron is about as close as you're likely to get to that in FFXIV, and now that it's going to be able to block magic in Stormblood it's gone from a neat little trick to the most overall powerful defensive tool in the game.
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>>377981435
>let's superpower PLD, this is balanced
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>>377981618
bruticus was three good fights you were forced to complete end-to-end to get your purps.
>team synergy
the hoops you are jumping through in the name of cognitive dissonance is amazing.
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>>377982085

Why can't 2.0 into cutscenes? The Omega vs Shinryu fight was stiff and awkward as fuck, and that was supposed to be the huge finale

Fuck that awful 'nodding' animation that punctuates every single scene in the game
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>>377982395
*Nods angrily at you*
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>>377982274
Nah, still staying a PLD/DRG main. But i really want to see just how much more crazy the DRG opener will be. I love my piano classes as it keeps me awake
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>>377982395
Because 1.0 fucked them in the ass and all it had were cutscenes, when they had to redo everything im pretty the budget was literally nothing
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>>377981794
>My dream design for PLD would be based around a manual block button; a sort of stance that prevents all actions but greatly reduces damage.
PLD will get a skill that is basically that, plus it also protects party members behind you. Not a stance, though, and it will probably have a long cooldown.
There is a new gauge gimmick that is used by Sheltron (and possibly other skills), and shields will block magic damage in 4.0 (plus parry is being removed from the game, so blocking will be a unique feature for PLD).
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What if

ALL

the DPS classes are good in Stormblood?
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Any australians know if we benefitted from the server change at all in terms of ping

contemplating resubbing but muh 200+ ping is annoying
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>>377974773
Found Leddit. I thought I wouldn't find the same "everyone better than me is a SHIT NOBODY" attitude here, but thanks for proving me wrong.
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>>377982395
Because every single cent of the budget went into animation and graphics, they just threw peanuts at everything else
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>>377982582

I can understand that

But why are we at the cusp of 4.0 and they -still- look like garbage?

I don't even expect them to look as good as 1.0's, but at least make some unique cutscene animations instead of just cobbling canned emotes together?
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>>377982640
BUT THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE
WHO WOULD BE IN THE KEKSHED ARAARFHFFHARAARGH
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>>377982640

they were all good in heavensward

some were just gooder than others due to group buffs/debuffs
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>>377982310
I'd personally do BLM over DRG because the changes shown so far seem pretty great, but we also got a lot more insight into 4.0 BLM than we did DRG from the LL.
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>hit 60
>unlock the extreme primals
>alright i guess i'll farm birds
holy shit the drop rate is so fucking low and when they do drop i roll low every time
is there a more efficient way to do this
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>>377976189
They're taking away Aetherflow's MP recovery just like they took away Shroud of Saints/Luminiferous Aether. SCH will need Lucid Dream or a BLM/SMN/RDM to Mana Shift to them or a BRD/MCH to Refresh them. All healers will need this now.
>>
>running dungeons all night to lvl healer
>all tanks are actually trash
>too much of a pussy to tank

I think I'll just go through PotD...
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>>377982718
Most 1.0 cutscenes were made with mocap.
Now they have to make them manually which takes much more time and resources.
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>>377982868
>Doing ANYTHING other than PotD to level up other jobs
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>>377982886

Then why not just do mocap again? If it's easier and takes less time
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>>377982274
Yeah, I'm dropping DRK after I finish my Anima (at this point I just want the minion and the "skip relic step" ticket). I don't enjoy the job anymore for various reasons and DRK's part in the live letter wasn't that great to make me interested in it again.
I'm leveling WAR now, planning to pick either SAM or RDM for 4.0's MSQ progression.
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>>377982857
Unsynced farming groups
Some of the fights last literally 4 minutes done unsynced.
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>>377982761
>gooder
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>>377982952
You still have to pay actors for mocap.
It's less expensive to just use existing emotes for cutscenes and have the animators work on new models animations and stuff.
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>>377982867
Removing Aetherflow mana would severly impact SMN, not going to happen.
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>>377982596
Parry, as in the thing that you do when you randomly mitigate part of incoming physical damage, and the thing that Raw Intuition makes you do at 100% and Dark Dance makes you do at 30%, is not being removed from the game, and will presumably function the same as ever.

Parry, the secondary stat that you can find on gear, is what is being removed from the game, to be replaced with Tenacity, a stat that directly increases damage dealt (like Determination) and directly reduces incoming damage.

Serves SE right for calling the stat and the action the same thing, but only one is being changed for SB.
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>>377982867
>How to give casters more raid synergy.
>Make them mana batteries for healers that can't conserve their mana.
>Give RDM's MCH like damage bonus ability for physical only.
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>>377982839
Yeah BLM seems like a good choice.

How is AST as a healer, especially compared to the other two? Do we know what they get in Stormblood?
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>>377981557
xeno is a fag
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>>377978517
>East Coast Problems
:3
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>>377983335
A better UI to look at cards and some new card gimmick. Not much information related to AST was revealed in the live letter, we are waiting for the media tour reveal more to us.
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>Monks finally getting the skills they need.
>SAM and RDM look perfect.

Hopefully this expansion won't fuck up like heavensward. The problem now is that there is going to be a raise of PotD MNK shitters.
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>>377982085
>primals getting good scenes
Why are our primals so shit now? We even got a literal whale that did nothing besides eat islands.
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>>377980050
Extra, consistent healer DPS makes it possible for people to survive stupid shit like seeing less Optical Sights or skipping extra Limit Cuts. More Healer DPS = Less actual healing. Fucking retard.
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>>377983257
there needs to be a magic tank that increases damage enemies take from magic sources, as well as another caster like Blue Mage/Time Mage/Chemist/Calculator/whatever that increases magic damage of allies.
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>>377982867
>they took away Shroud of Saints/Luminiferous Aether
Nigga you best be jokin',
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>>377983015
>birbs
>unsync
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>>377983617
Eating Islands sounds like a far bigger problem than Leviathan's failed attempts to Tidal Wave shit.
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>>377983643
Nope. Have fun healing.
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>>377982952
mocap looks just as bad.
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>>377980325
Except Yoshida and his team went full invincible mode for Gordias so it was mathematically IMPOSSIBLE for people to clear it without healer DPS. It was really that bad up until Thordan EX and Diadem weapons came to save the day for the rest of the people who were struggling to clear it.

You would know that if you actually played instead of running story mode every week and pretending you were a raider you fucking cuck.
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>>377982950
Some people like having souls
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>>377983643
Shroud wasn't on Yoshi's hotbar, only the new cross role version.
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>>377983643
They made MP recovery skills into cross role as well as esuna skills. So enjoy having to use up 4 of your cross role skills on shit you already had or completely mandatory skills with absolutely no room for adjustment.
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>>377982697
>>377982582

Don't get me wrong, 1.0 was a hot mess that needed to die, but I genuinely think it did a few things better than 2.0

Namely quests
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>>377983786

there's this new exapnsion called stormblood coming out where the new level cap is 70
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>>377984019
m-m-maybe they give us good skills to replace the ones we lose?
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>>377984098
>mfw you won't be able to unsync HW primals
>mfw i already have the firebird
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>>377984123
>lalaposter being in charge of being a clueless faggot
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>>377982213
>>377982379
They literally did half this and more you fucking retards.
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Do you think pugs will finally be able to clear t9 once 70 rolls around? Goodness knows they couldn't manage it at 60
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>>377983229
No it wouldn't. SMNs get two phases of Dreadwyrm Trance per Aetherflow now and their spells cost no MP during Bahamut summon. Mana shouldn't be anywhere near as tight.
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>>377984362
What? I 4-manned t9 with 3 of the worst fucking players mechanically in the game unsynced. I don't think many people will have a problem with it at 70.
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>>377984019
Jokes on you. My static will run Omega without Protect because I'm the healer and I say so.
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>>377984530
>He doesn't R3 outside of DWT
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>>377984358
Half isnt overpowered.
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>>377984019
Not really true if you split up cross-role abilities with your partner. Technically only one of you needs to bring Protect/Esuna, so you can have healers dedicated to cleansing/protecting rez'd players.
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>>377984640
I do, but since DWT is now 30s instead of 15s, that's a lot more fucking 1/10th Ruin IIIs you fucking cuck.

>>377984686
It is when you do half and then add in 350 Potency oGCDs in addition to the things the other tanks already had like half-decent AoE attacks.
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>>377984851
Whats 350 potency ogcds do you speak of?
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Honestly they could have done a better job with the BLM job gauge. It looks too confusing to track. This is exactly why we need UI addons.
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>>377984880
Requiescat, dumbass. 350 Potency and then increases their overall damage/healing by 20% for the next 12s. PLD OT can and will spam 430 Potency Holy Spirits at that point for over 500 fucking potency. Holy Spirit is the new Fell Cleave for PLD.
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>>377984915
So long as this game is cross platform we will never get them.
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whats the easiest way to farm the unidentifiable objects for the anima weapon
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>>377984986
Its on a minute cooldown. The other tanks are getting high potency burn phases too you know.
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>paladin gets flashy wings
>summoner bahamut now
>unlimited bard works
>warrior and monk just get a buff to use to use FC more
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>>377985007

2.0 beastmen and lore tomes
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>>377984986
You forgot to add that its on a 60s CD. So PLD technically has 20% uptime on that if they can get their MP back to above 80% before the next Requiescat comes off CD.

That's before you even add in Fight or Flight. PLD is going to be a pretty fierce OT for the first tier of Omega.
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>>377985105
>spending lore tomes on anything but umbrite
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>>377984994
Unreal Tournament 3 was cross platform between PS3 and PC, yet it still managed to get modding support.
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>>377985061
Motherfucker we get a cooldown that makes our eyes glow red, a titan-inspired fucking ogcd uppercut to the mouth and will still most likely be the best tank. Chill your shit and embrace the buzzsaw. Also reminder that every FC now reduces your Infiruate cooldown.
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>>377985049
PLD has 2 damage increasing cooldowns now in addition to bigger potencies than its ever gotten in addition to MORE defensive utility. That's a pretty big deal.
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>>377985061
Simple is best.
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>Let me post a speculate video about something I already know because I attended the press event.
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when are they going to reduce the 2.5s gcd
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Alright boys, pick for me, what should I level to 60 right now?
BRD, WAR, MNK, or SMN?
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>>377985262
>every FC now reduces your Infiruate cooldown.
what?
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>information comes to light about doing a negative underflow to maximum possible aggro value on a target with one attack
S rank hunts will never be the same.
It doesn't give full credit though I just tested it. Hunt credit is likely calculated by total party aggro generated, not the amount of party aggro controlled when it dies.
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>>377985519
Never.
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>>377982274
I was a NIN main.

Not much changed with their new actions it seems and I have higher ping now in the new servers so I'm jumping boat

probably to a ranged dps for a change of pace
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>>377985572
every fell cleave reduces infuriate cooldown by 4-5 secs now
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>>377985347
who are you quoting
i actually want to know since i kinda want to see it
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SAM and RDM start with Ironwork weapons (non-upgraded) by the way.
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How many of you are palying as elezen?
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>>377985347
Reseph plz. I know you're jealous that you can't get past the embargo but you don't need to hate on your fellow journalists.
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>24/7 FF threads
Jesus fucking christ just how much did Yoshida and Tabata pay these SE shills?
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>>377985572
If you do it right, Infuriate is can be 30.

Also Beserk has no pacify and has a 60 seconds cd.
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>>377982274
nin, probably going to samurai
i might switch back at some point since i guess b4b + ir aren't things anymore and my ping is low enough not to clip fuma, but what few skills have been revealed aren't really doing much for me
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>>377985908
>Stop making threads about the 2nd biggest MMO of all time when new info just came out and the expansion is less than a month away
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>>377985908
I get one day of subtime for every thread that reaches bumblimit
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>>377985908
we own this board
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>>377986112
wtf i hate hiro now
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>>377986112
goddamn yoshi almost looks like he has a normal face next to hiro
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Is it too early to recruit for a static for 4.0? Should I wait till the tier is actually out?
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>>377971108
>the premiere WAR player across the entire game
>high quality content creator
>"some guy"
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>>377986535
>Static
I'm sorry that you're stuck in NA/EU Cuckcenter.
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>>377986535
considering you dont even know what jobs are buffed or nerfed or whatever i think the answer is obvious
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>>377986535
Never too early to recruit. You just gotta be determined to find the right people.
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>>377971851
A single toggle skill is hardly "stance dancing"

Call me when you have to swap 3 stances to efficiently play your class.
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in the MSQ, gosetsu does some sort of dive attack against the multiple enemies that spawn in that solo instance against that Roe and his army. I'm hoping that's one of the kaiki gauge abilities.
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>>377982867
>They're taking away Aetherflow's MP recovery
Aetherflow still has the generic MP recovery effect on the showcase, same with energy drain.
They could have gotten nerfed, but not removed.
Hell, for all what we know LA could still be there and WHM could have gotten a new MP regen skill or a buff on Assize.
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>>377986856
Of course the animations were fucking reused. This should really fucking obvious by SE standard.
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>>377983335
AST is the best support-y support but does the least damage. If you want both healing and shielding while getting mad at RNG for giving you shit cards, you pick AST.
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>>377985007
hope you like Gordias
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>>377987017
???
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>>377987017
If it works like how I imagine, that would make SAM incredibly OP. They dash through 4 enemies then hissatsu them to death
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>>377987017
>How should we give players an early peek at Samurai?
>Oh how about we put one in the game to show off the cool abilities!
And then there's you, stewing in your own piss like a fucking retard because you just want to be mad about something, and the dozen legitimate reasons you have aren't enough.
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my sub ran out the week that "craft item for affection" thing started with the orphange. How did that turn out?
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>they said they would "do something" about WAR OT
>they made it even more retarded
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>>377987268
It IS one of Hissatsu skill

>>377987280
Sounds like you're the one getting mad. Consider taking your own advice.
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>>377987385
An extremely effective method to finish either role's red scrip grind for the week. Lots of blue scrips too. It's a crystal sand mine.
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>>377987409
I'm not saying don't be mad, I'm just saying get mad at stupid shit that SE constantly does, not a cool way to show off Samurai ahead of the expansion.
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>>377987409
800 potency for guren plus their sen abilities would destroy a person in PVP
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>>377987640
Guess you didn't hear the news about PvP.
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>>377987640
>Muh pvp deciding what's allowed in pve.
Good fucking riddance to the old system. Pvp is what kills pve in mmo's.
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>>377987579
Sorry, but this 'cool' way to show off the samurai was completely overshadowed by the fact that we've already seen 4 out of 5 move (only the dashing skill is new, the rest were from reveal) and how awesome Nero magitek was.
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>>377987640
PvP are separated from PvE now and have their own skills set.
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>>377987640
PvP is changed heavily. It got mini-gamed to heck.

Template stats, gear doesn't matter, 9 abilities, single press combo chains, 2 additional actions + LB. The skillset is entirely separate from PvE.
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>tfw tempted to do pvp before the system is gone forever
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>>377988138
what is happening to pvp?
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>>377988138
tfw pvp changes might make it somewhat bearable and i can finally get my white ads AND flying airship mount
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>>377988217
>>377988052
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>>377988265
Sounds like it might be better honestly.
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>>377988395
it definitely will because they'll at least have a chance of balancing it now
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>>377973679
>>377970385
this, fuck

Scourge's animation still gets me rock hard
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>>377976854
The player base is cancer, absolute and total aggressive cancer. Ever tried doing savage via PF? Or ex primals? For example, yesterday a drg spent 5 minutes insulting the tank in a11s because he had the aggro of the first add for 2 seconds and claimed that the add killed him (even though he floor tanked optical sight, I mean the first add is so weak a healer could tank it). The main tank positioned the boss in the east saying ''what does it matter where I put the boss, are you all directionally challenged?'' Many examples of this, people in this game are cancer. And then you have your pic related retards
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>that incredibly bald ginger that gets posted sometimes is actually xenosys

hahaha oh shit
i hadn't actually paid much attention to the dude before
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>>377988395
>>377988225
I might actually give it a try in SB.
The thousands of pvp specific skills alone turns me off and makes my controller weep.
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>>377988589
Yaah, there sure are a lot of faggots who play this game.
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>>377988451
I feel like they MIGHT keep Scourge, even if a lot of similar skills go away.

Fracture was pretty much a shit skill that you rarely use as a Warrior.
Mutilate was not especially powerful and basically there to space rotations out a little bit, which will now be accomplished through extra Ninjutsu.
Touch of Death was more interesting as "Generic GCD that doesn't move your stance forward" than it was as a skill in and of itself.
Phlebotomize is crappy and was mostly there to reduce the amount of time that Chaos Thrust clips by, and contributed a lot to DRG feeling like a really rote 1-2-3-4-5, 1-2-3-4-5 class.

Scourge was actually one of DRK's power moves, though, and felt satisfying to use because of it.
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>>377982952
Easier to do what they do which is just LUA scripting the cutscenes using all of the canned animations at hand.

But even those they get fucking lazy with the camera and STILL phase characters in/out of existence in plain sight.

>>377983617
Because Primals in 1.0 were a greater focus on the story (and very slowly milked along) instead of ARR's themepark ride of knocking them out as fast as possible. Really, 2.1-2.5X's pacing was fucked.
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>>377989037
I actually wonder if Lead Shot will be going away in favor of new HEAT stuff.
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>>377989037
Losing fracture is more of a problem for monk than it is warrior. It was their highest potency attack when they couldn't hit a positional.
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>>377971851
>"Remove" clerics stance and scale healer DPS off MND to encourage people who don't DPS as healers to try DPSing
>they won't
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>>377989957
Watch SE make healer DPS act as a contributor to the healer job gauges refilling quicker vs regular actions.
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>>377972207
>(without taking foe requiem into account)

That's assuming Foes is still a thing.
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>>377989872
Well, True North is a thing now, so things are a little less shitty for Monks when they have to hit from the front, as long as it's only occasionally. But yeah, Fracture was definitely more of a MNK skill than a WAR skill - it was also pretty important for spacing out their combo GCDs to maximize Demolish ticks.

MNK Fracture was definitely on its way out anyway though as part of the role skill stuff, so it really only needed to be considered from the eyes of a WAR.
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>>377985061
>MNK still won't get Greased Lightning 4
>Super Saiyan Aura still exclusive to the catslut
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>>377990048
I hope they add something like auto-commendations that give you points for how well you performed in the dungeon, and healers are graded equally for their dps as healing.
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>>377989957

This person is especially retarded on the OF I am pretty sure they said they were from EU, either France of Norway I can't remember which.
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>>377989872
Untraited fracture, which is so shitty that even warriors ignores it, is the monks highest potency move when they can't get the directional bonus damage?

That is so sad.
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>>377990332
Tank potencies tend to be really high in contrast to their lack of damage buffs from stances/gear.

Monk is also incredibly on the low side of potency due to greased lightning making them hit harder and faster.

It would be sad (and is sad) when monks don't have greased lightning.
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>>377990332
Monk gets damage and speed buffs from Grease lightning so their natural potency are lower.

Also it's not about being highest potency. If we're talking about dots, Demoish and Touch of Death are still higher.
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>>377990332
Did Yoshi even have fracture on his bars when he switched to WAR? I don't remember. Nothing of value would be lost if it's gone.
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>>377990079
with all the crossclass stuff giving mana/tp and the general removal of buffs, i wouldn't be surprised if mage's and army's got reworked into a physical/magic damage up buff

still dunno what those notes do tho
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>>377989957
>Kick
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Speaking of monk I noticed one ilm punch was still around. Touch of death was probably put into it if they did remove all dots outside of combos
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>>377990332
Monk damage comes from multipliers rather than raw potency. You have to multiply everything by 1.3x from GL3, then by 1.1x for Twin Snakes, then 1.05x for Fists of Fire. Basically works out to 1.5x.

Monk's non-DoT weaponskills are mostly in the 150-200 potency range, but that's equivalent to 225-300, and Fracture at 220 becomes more like 330. Whereas, say, Dragoon only has a 1.15x multiplier from Heavy Thrust, so a base 150 potency skill like True Thrust is only 172.5 potency, bringing the average down pretty considerably.
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Le chakcra cuck aside, what's going to be NIN's strength now?

Goad is now cross-role.
Diversion is also cross-role
So what's left for NIN?
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>>377990739
reminder that kicking healers who don't DPS is not a reportable offense because "Different playstyles" is a valid kick.

And we know this doesn't mean "not being 100% optimized", but means "Tanks who don't actually try to control aggro", "healers who don't try to DPS" and other shit like "Ice mage BLMs" or "Melee DPS who can't do a fucking rotation"
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>>377990826
iirc self buffs are additive, so it's 1.45x
damage up debuffs are multiplicative tho so adding in dk makes it 1.59x instead of 1.55x
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>>377991048
Trick Attack which always made it viable.
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>>377991048
TA
Slashin debuff i guess?
And whatever the fuck SE give them
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>>377987409
>SAM skills looks like hakumens movelist.
I can't wait to make a hakumen glamour.
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>>377991261

kys
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>>377991259
Slashing debuff might not be that premium anymore since SAM is pretty much forced to do it to activate one of the sen.
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>>377991261
hockeyman was the only good part of that shit series
plus he looked cool as heck so yeah hopefully you can cosplay
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>>377991048
trick attack and shadewalker opening
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>>377991048
Is diversion nothing more than provoke
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>>377991570
Basically Quelling strike accessible by every DPS
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>Mained BRD through all of 2.0
>Mained MCH instead through 3.0
>Never returned to Brd because didn't care much for the casting bars, but it was bearable on MCH and I LOVE MCH
>Suddenly 4.0 and casting is gone on both BRD and MCH, MCH gets fire and missles and BRD gets weponised music
>Will probably end up maining both since they share gear

Stormblood is shaping up to be the best expansion because I'll be able to main two jobs.
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>>377991669
And no DPS are going to pick it since they'll have better toys/dps-tools than the "Less aggro" skill.
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>>377987409
>Guren
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>>377991920
>no DPS is going to pick something that'll increase raid dps because the tanks won't have to do more shitty aggro combos
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Do you guys think Stormblood will have a good story, good writing and good pacing?
My answer? No, but good enough.
The new characters do look like they have lots of potential, especially the Doman prince and the Garlean-rule-born Ala Mhigan and I just hope they don't kill them off like *cough*YsayleandHaurchefant*cough*
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>>377991920
They don't really have "DPS tools" in their role skills.

Stuns are losing their damage, BfB is gone, Internal Release is gone, Hawk's Eye is gone,
Raging Strikes is gone (from role skills, no idea if they're still on their corresponding jobs).

The closest you get to DPS tools for your role skills on a melee is True North, which just lets you ignore positionals for a while.
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>>377992058
I am actually really interested in the Garlean Ala Mhigan working for the Garleans. She is Uncle Tomming her way out of Mhigger-hood and I applaud her efforts.
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>>377992058
No, no, and no.

>>377992270
>Stuns are losing their damage
All of 'em? Even Shoulder Tackle? Game sorely needs crowd control being a thing again so raid encounters can evolve a little.
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>>377992361
Monk still has shoulder tackle and steel peak but they most likely lost their stun component. It looks like they want interrupts to become a real mechanic so they're removing the damaging component so the bosses don't become immune.
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>>377992361
No idea if it's all of them; I don't think they've explicitly said "we're removing damage from all stun skills, and stuns from all damage skills" anywhere. But at least in terms of skills like Leg Sweep, Brutal Swing, or Low Blow, where you had low-potency skills that happened to have a stun attached, those have been folded into role skills, and stripped of all their potency.

Shoulder Tackle's stun could well be removed, but we've got no way of knowing (as far as I know).
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>>377982310
AST seems like it's about to get more utility with the "reverse" mechanic.
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>>377986552
Who are we on about?
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>>377992474
The damage isn't what makes the boss immune though - it's just a diminishing return on the effectiveness of the stun/silence until they eventually become immune for a while, so you can't just constantly mitigate the damage of a boss by perma-stunning it.

If they just reduced stun duration very low it might work without the diminishing returns/immunity.
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So what's the best way to prep for leveling SAM/RDM? Doing a bunch of sidequests and not turning them in?
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>>377991570
Renamed shit for role skills:

Addle: Supervirus, Caster DPS onry
Break: The slow effect from Stone I/Stella moved to a 50 potency spell
Diversion: Quelling Strikes
Manashift: Manawall+Manaward combined
Shirk: Probably Shadewalker for tanks
Arms Length: Possibly Haymaker
Proton: Swiftsong
Lucid Dream: Shroud of Saints/Luminiferous Aether
Affection: Likely Divine Seal
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>>377992474
Why the fuck are enemies still gaining immunity to stun when Silence proved that interruption mechanics worked fine in two point fucking zero?

Wtf is wrong with SE?
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>>377992632
He probably meant no damage means no meed to spam shit off cooldown for maximum deeps anymore.
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>>377992654
Full set of i130 and i270 gear for MNK & Caster.
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>>377992632
No, but if it does damage then people will spam it on cd and when you actually need to stun the boss they will be immune. If it only stuns and nothing else then it can be used reliably as a stun. Look at the succubus add in the 2nd boss of Weeping City, how often did your group actually manage to interrupt its cast?
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>>377992674
Probably just so WHM can't spam holy forever.

But yeah there's no reason. At the very least an enemy in a cast time that's supposed to be stunned should always be stunnable during it
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>>377992674
They gain immunity because it would be kind of dumb for a White Mage to just stop an entire dungeon worth of enemies until they ran out of MP by casting Holy over and over.
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>>377982310
BLM was reworked into being less punishing so it'll be super fun to cast all of those Fire IVs without worrying about Enochian anymore. Plus, they get Thunder IV AoE and a 650 potency AoE every 30 seconds of Enochian (assuming that's how it works) AND that Umbral Heart thing which makes the next 3 spells free of MP costs which is pretty insane.
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>>377992747
>>377992771
Oh yeah I read that super wrong, sorry.
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>>377992794
>>377992797
Make stun still interrupt but last 0s then once you hit the 'immune' resistance level.
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>>377992674
Can someone go check the VOD for how much MP the Paladin had at 70? I assume more than 7k?
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>>377992674
it's really weird since if i remember right the legs in a4 are stun immune until you actually need to stun them

it's probably easier on the devs this way tho, plus it'll mean that people save the stuns for actually stunning things instead of a damage ogcd
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>>377992654
get a full shire caster/mnk set and then grind potd till 60 at stormblood.
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>>377992940
>if i remember right the legs in a4 are stun immune until you actually need to stun them
You remember correct. They also animated steam coming out of the leg to signal which one to hit (not that you can see fucking shit with the body of the boss taking up 50% of your screen).
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>>377992963
is it even possible to get full shire before sb? You can get 900 max a week and a set is 5000, isnt it?
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>>377992905
It was just slightly over 7k. I can't check the exact figure right now, but I remember checking to see if they could cast Holy Spirit 5 times in a row (7200 MP) and figuring that they probably could, but only because they'd be getting a couple ticks of MP regeneration along the way.
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>>377992905
7090.
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>>377992839
yeah, staying in Astral Fire/Umbral Ice for 30 seconds without letting anything drop (rather, staying in enochian, but Enochian only drops if AF/UI drops) gives you the Polyglot. The timer is for AF/UI while the purple gauge is for keeping track of the Polyglot's timer (when full you get Polyglot)

Visually it's the little diamond at the bottom of the UI which glows purple when you have the Polyglot and can cast Foul.

The naming scheme is okay here. Enochian is the angelic language and Polyglot is someone versed in multiple languages, meaning you're 'versed' in Enochian.
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>>377975220
>For quest names
Best part of localization DESU
The puns are out of this world
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>>377993069
not if you start now, but y'know there's always a9-12s to farm for easy sets.
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Are the UIs optional?
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>>377993069
Poetics are going to be used for 50 and 60 gear come stormblood so you've got an extra 2k from there once the expansion hits.
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>>377993167
dont you basically need shire to do savage though? or is 250 good enough
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>>377993208
They are making simplified version.
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>>377992839
>Umbral Heart thing which makes the next 3 spells free of MP costs
Not quite, it removes the spell cost penalty for fire spells you get in Astral Fire
Which means twice as much Fire IVs all in all
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>>377993101
Stroking The Haft is the best quest name.
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>>377993208
Probably. I assume some classes will get more use out of them than others. You can resize them so I assume there is a command to hide them too.
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>>377989037
At the very least I'd like to keep the animation because like the other anon said, it's fucking baller.
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>>377993208
So far no, I don't think, because aside from tank stances, the things that would show up on the buff window no longer do. But they're making simple versions of the gauges for those who don't like Maplestory
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>>377993261
sadly yes, other cheap alternative is grinding dun scaith for full diabolic+proto ultima set
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>>377993285
>>377993312
Some of them are decent, I like Dragoons for example, but others are just shit and either unnecessary (warrior) or over the top (black mage)
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>>377993086
Interesting. I was wondering what the diamond was about. It's for Foul then


Also I feel like BLM will be a lot more powerful than SMN now but it's unfair for me to assume that since we haven't seen any of SMN's new skill tooltips.
Maybe it's time to come back to BLM...
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>>377993298
Tarantula Hawk, Pro Stinger.
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>>377993421
blm seems like it's in a really cool place right now since you get to go back to the old proc system, and you finally have more than four buttons to press to keep you from falling asleep
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>>377993421
>we haven't seen any of SMN's new skill tooltips
We've seen a motherfucking Bahamut summon though
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>Got all jobs at 60 and i270
>Watch the latest PLL
>Job gauge bars HUD layout position seems to be per job rather than universal like hotbars
>MFW I'll waste lots of time sorting new skills position for my hotbars AND finding a comfy position for those damned Job bars for each job
Just kill me already.
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>>377993646
It's not like you're going to play ALL of those jobs at launch anyway.

t.also all 60 and 270
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>>377990329
That thing is a kraut
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>>377991089
>Ice mage BLM

Nigger what?
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>>377993385
oh, you do dun scaith for ultima and diabolic? I thought they'd be seperated
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>>377993646
>I'll waste lots of time sorting new skills position for my hotbars AND finding a comfy position for those damned Job bars for each job
That's the best part though, what are you complaining about
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>>377993691
Yes, but it's something that I basically will end up doing sooner or later famalam...
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>>377993697
What does kraut means?
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>>377993769
Ultima stuff is a weekly quest reward for doing DS.
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>>377993763
a BLM who casts blizzard and only blizzard because they're too lazy to figure out how to manage their MP and do the rotation. They'll say they're "RPing an ice mage"
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>>377993646
>all jobs at 60
how do people find the autism for this
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>>377993646
>not turning the job bars off
Fucking casuals.
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>>377993851
is the ultima stuff worth more than diabolic? If you can only get 1 piece per week that still leaves me craving for time in regards to sb release
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>>377993541
True. This is pretty much the best version of BLM. It looks powerful, it looks fun, it's not stressful to play and all that.
>>377993554
I know, I'm super excited about the Bahamut summon but I want to see the numbers, really.
And I feel like SMN didn't get a lot like BLM did. I just hope that Bio IV and Miasma IV (assuming) is actually good and there's a way to extend Bahamut's time on the field.
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>>377970385
What about the dot king summoner? Are we getting a Tri-disaster 2 or some shit?
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>>377993887
Not everyone started playing in 3.0 and grind only via potd.
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>>377993925
270 accessories. Diabolic is 260 left side gear.
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>>377989957
>pic

I just don't get it. There's plenty of downtime to fill when you're not healing, especially when you've got shields/regens active, to fill with DPS or DoTs at least... Either these people are fucking gutter tier garbage or they're just lazy casual fucks.
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>>377993998
Doing damage will ruin their netflix watching
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>>377993939
given the spell upgrading they're doing they might trim down Bio and Miasma to upgrade into a Bio II and Miasma II. Or something. Someone said something about the spells SCH cast
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>>377970914
Nier: Automata glamour.
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>>377993939
From what they showed in the skill showcase, I think it's fair to assume Bahamut doubles your spells. When SMN casted Ruin III Bahamut casted it also
Speaking of Ruins, are they going to get compressed like Stones, or will they remain individual spells? I think they mentioned something but I forgot what exactly
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>>377993082
That means we can safely pop a Spirit before Requiescat, as natural mana regen should handle it.
That way we won't waste mana with Riot Blade.
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>>377994093
We can assume that for SCH, Ruin gets upgraded into Broil and Broil 2, but it's a tough call for SMN since all 3 of their Ruins function differently.
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A reminder to repost all the leaks everywhere you can so that leech bloggers get pissed off. There's no reasonable need to feed people who can't get a real job. Break the news or go home fake journos!
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>>377993887
Not him but I just bot all my classes to 60. They never ban bots who only fate grind and shit, just gil spammers.
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>>377993979
oh, so if i do ultima once a week, i'll be fine, thanks
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>>377993939
I have to assume that SMN at 70 will be about keeping Bahamut around as long as possible. Only summoning for 20s ever 2 minutes seems dumb.
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>>377993879
[Disgust intensifies].
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>>377994181
It's easy, they make Ruin 2 a direct upgrade for Ruin (same MP cost, you just get instacast) and Ruin IV or whatever would be a direct upgrade for Ruin III as a separate ability (AOE and ST Thunders are similarly divided on BLM)
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>>377994204
how do you bot to 60?
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>Summon Bahamut-Egi
>Get hit by AoE since you can't see shit
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Everybody get up it's time to slam now
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Here's your chance do your dance at the Space Jam
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Behind my back, you know what's next
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Wassup, just feel the bass
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Make sure you don't hurt nobody
Get wild and lose your mind
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QCD, goin' burn it up
C'mon y'all get on the floor
So hey, let's go a'ight
Everybody get up it's time to slam now
We got a real jam goin' down
Welcome to the Space Jam
Here's your chance do your dance at the Space Jam
Alright
Wave your hands in the air if you feel fine
We're gonna take it into overtime
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Here's your chance, do your dance at the Space Jam
Alright
C'mon it's time to get hyped say hoop there it is
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Now all the fellas say hoop there it is
C'mon and run, baby run
C'mon, c'mon, do it, run baby run
Yeah, you want a hoop so shoot, baby shoot
C'mon and slam, and welcome to the jam
C'mon and slam, if you want to jam
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C'mon and slam, if you want to jam
Slam, Bam, Thank you ma'am
Get on the floor and jam
It's the QCD on the microphone
Girl you got me in the zone
C'mon, c'mon and start the game
Break it down, tell me your name
We the team, I'm the coach
Let's dance all night from coast to coast
Just slide, from left to right
Just slide, yourself the night
QCD, drop the base
3-point-1 all in your face
Jam on it, let's have some fun
Jam on it, One on One
You run the hole and I run the "D"
So c'mon baby just jam for me
>>
>>377994263
Isn't that how summons work in almost all other FF games?
Is this not what you wanted???
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>>377994357
As a summoner, it is impossible to ever be satisfied with the job.
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>>377994045
>>377994093
I doubt Bio, Miasma and Ruin will be compressed.
The DoTs aren't really treated as upgrades like it is for Stone, while Miasma II is an AoE.
Same for Ruin, too. Ruin is used to preserve MP, Ruin II is instant and for mobility while Ruin III is the one that does the better damage but MP costly.
I just hope Bahamut does double your spells or whatever.
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>>377994357
Only in 9 and earlier. 10-13 had them last a while. It just seems like a lot of effort on their part for what is essentially SMN's raging strikes replacement.
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>>377994469
>>377994469
>>377994469
move
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>>377994357
>in almost all other FF games
Kill this shitty meme
SMN debutted in FFIII
From III to IX = 6 games
From X to XIV = 5 games
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>>377994487
well they're doing SOMETHING. You can see for example (but with a different job) that WHM casts Aero 3 but Aero 2 was instant cast so Aero might upgrade to Aero 2 despite them being differently functioning spells with different dots
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>>377979817
>>377980358
for all you two know healer potency's have slightly increased and/or their offensive magic scales more with MND than it previously did with INT

you're chimping about healers doing less dps when it's entirely possible they'll deal more than previously
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>>377994906
I imagine healers will be doing less damage on a striking dummy without the +10% but the same or more in an actual fight since they won't be losing gcds swapping stances.
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>>377974528
>Why would anyone bother playing a pure DPS job if healers could crank out high DPS?
That's something I had been wondering about for a good while, playing as healers.
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