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Fire Emblem Echoes

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Last thread is about to hit reply limit. This time around, instead of talking about why it's good or why it's shit, let's just sit back and share some jokes and memes (because I've seen relatively few)
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How the fuck do I get Gargoyle Ears? I've beaten the game and most of the post-game (just have Thabes Labrinth left to do), I've done all the sidequests except the one that requires 3 Gargoyle Ears and I've beaten plenty of Gargoyle's throughout the game and I've only every acquired a grand total of one throughout all this.
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Post game dungeon is apparently hard as fuck
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>>377967038
p sure that the swamp graveyard spawns them constantly
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>>377966234
What kind of genitalia do Gold Knights have?
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>>377967167
I've killed a shit ton of Gargoyles in that graveyard and I haven't gotten any since beating the game.
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>>377967349
huh
the only other place they spawn is in dungeons, maybe fear mountain?
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>>377967046
No it's not that hard. I didn't grind at all the entire game, headed straight into postgame with a lv9-12 party (final promotion), and got all the way up to the final boss before MY FUCKING ALM GOT CRIT'D WITH A 2% CRIT CHANCE FUCK OFFFFFF TURNWHEEEELLLLLLL

The first 5 levels of the postgame are ez, after that it gets challenging but is still perfectly doable without grind
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>>377967316
female (male)
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>>377967316
Silver Lances.
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>>377968027
>not gold lances
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>>377968114
You mad gold boi?
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>>377966234
Alm is a dork and I love him for that
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>>377967316
A horse
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>>377966234
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So why the fuck does even Normal need so much grinding? I Thought I was doing so well but I got up to the last Berkut fight and no matter what I was losing someone.

Frustrating as fuck, but I reset, backed out, and I guess I'll wait until tomorrow and grind everyone up to 20. Maybe even promote them to Overclasses.
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>>377969484
This sums up Fernand too well
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>>377967046
Hope you like enemies with inflated stats.
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>>377969823
>sells his whole nation to an insane zombie dragon-worshipping empire because ree peasants
Fernand is a cunt and the fact that they tried to paint him as a tragic figure pisses me off.
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>>377970208
It's like how Americans sold their nation to a JIDF shill because ree niggers
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>>377969751
Are you serious? Not only can the entire game be beaten on Hard with no grind, it's one of the easier FEs. How fucking bad are you?
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>>377970598
I could believe it with Casual mode. But I used every single use of my Turnwheel trying different first turn approaches just to lose someone every damn time. It was fucked.
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>>377970812
It's really not that difficult. Just make sure that vulnerable units are out of enemy range and try to let weaker units get kills so that they get more experience. This is FE basics, I shouldn't even need to say this.
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If I wasn't a fan of the recent Fire Emblem games, namely Conquest and all that shit along with Awakening, would I like this? I've really been debating getting this being a long time fan of the series, but I feel like I've been burnt by the series enough already and so I'm a little hesitant.
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>>377970812
How 'bout you stop rushing in and pay attention to enemy movement range and who has low def. Just turtle bro.
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>>377970505
ree spics and mudslimes*
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>>377966234
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>>377971324
If you hate Awakening/Fates because of the waifu pandering and god-awful story then Echoes will be a nice change of pace. The maps can be fairly shitty at times but otherwise it's a solid game.
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>>377971539
Oh shit! Does celica actually get a gun? That's exactly what fire emblem needed. Gunz.
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>>377971578
alright cool. That was definitely my biggest gripe with it along with a cast of almost wholly unlikable characters. In that regard I didn't mind Awakening half as much as Conquest. I'll probably pick this up soon thanks Anon.
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>>377971324
Maybe. Outside of free rewinds, Echoes is extremely faithful to the original, far more than it ought to be. None of the problems with Gaiden were adressed, some of them were even exacerbated.
You could say this is the furthest you could go from post-Awakening FE.
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>>377970812
Was there another enemy on the map square? Enemies roam around, and if they stack up on the same square then you have to fight both armies at once, makes it much more difficult
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Just got to the first castle and got the Dragon Shield While really good I fucking hate bosses where you are just pinging them for 1 damage and just waiting for them to finally die but I also always do it for really good items. What are the best person to give the item too? Knights so they can never die or Mages/Clerics so they don't have to worry about casting spells?
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>>377966234
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>>377971873
Celica looks better, but Alm looks like an edgelord.
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Thoughts on the time wheel? Have you been using it?
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>>377971873
>tfw this is one of the twists in the game
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>>377971285
I mean, what the fuck do you think I was doing?

Never mind that, but the fact that the mentioned Berkut fight is limited to 10, so of course you're bringing your best anyway.
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>>377971390
>implying you can turtle when there's a mogall splitting every turn and a witch bitch summoning more teleporting witches
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>>377972000
I don't see any issues with it. For those that always soft-reset everytime a unit dies, this saves them a lot of time. It also has a limited number of uses which means you can't be completely reckless, especially during dungeons. And for those that like to Ironman the game, you can completely ignore it.
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>>377971873
>>377971996
I don't think these are too bad. Keep the eye colors the same, Celica's red eyes and Alms green eyes, and it would solve the edgelord problem I think.

Even with the matching eye colors, it's not that bad.
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>>377971873

this just makes me miss roy even more
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>>377972000
A great addition but it needs to allow you to turn back time even when your Lords die, I was at the final boss of the postgame dungeon and my Alm gets fucking crit'd with a 2% crit chance.
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>>377972305
>>377972393
I really don't see how you can find this difficult. I'm by no means an expert when it comes to this series but even I found Normal/Classic to be pretty easy without any grinding.
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>Climbing up Duma Tower
>All these fucking Dread Fighters kn these tiny confined maps
>Fucking my shit up. Dodging all my normal attacks, and brushing off magic attacks

I didnt think anything could get more annoying than cantors spawning 3000 reinforcements per turn but her they are
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i sexually identify as a golden knight. i don't need to be honoured by cis gendered queens.
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>>377972789
I'd really like to know what the hell you did, then. I'm no newbie to the series, but Berkut seriously stumped me, unless I decided I could go without a unit or two until I could get to the revive springs, but that would've required the rest of the dungeon after Berkut still.

You probably just got stupid lucky with growths or something.
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>While the maps are pretty bad I am still having a blast and honestly one of my favorite FE game
Maybe it's because of how bad Awakening/Fates was but man I'm loving this game.
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How many treasure chests are in the forest you have to navigate with Celica?
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>>377973017
I've just realised you were talking about the final Berkut fight in the middle of the dungeon. Admittedly, that was the hardest part of the game but even I managed to beat it on my first/second attempt. Just take it slowly, bait the enemies that aren't Berkut or Rinea and take them all out while killing the witches and healing, then rush Berkut and Rinea in one turn. Mila's Turnwheel should give you plenty of leniency if you need to use it.

Also, the game lets you save immediately after the fight so you don't have to redo it if you die later in the dungeon.
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>>377971868
It's overkill on Knights. Lukas with a Leather Shield takes no damage from any physical unit short of Knights and bosses, and against mages he'll get doubled and take like 3 damage per hit.

I would probably give it to Faye (if you made her a cleric) so she can spam Physic every turn. She shouldn't be getting attacked in the first place so etc.
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>>377973208
The repeating maps are almost insulting, really.
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>>377973451
Three.
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If you were a cavalier, would you fuck your destrier?
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>that first elica map past the hamlet
Is this a joke
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>>377972000
I wasn't sure about it at first, but after playing some later-game dungeons I'm glad it's there. Dungeons really would have been a pain in the ass without it. I do think that uses should have been limited on hard mode though. Maybe half as many.
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>>377972641
They're the ones holding the turnwheel so it makes sense that it can't operate when they die. I agree it's frustrating restarting a battle for it, though. It's happened to me too, but not on any battle that took much time to start with.
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>>377973546
Yeah, I was trying that. I don't know, my units suck dick I guess. But I already left, which sucks because that totally fucks with the rhythm of the story which I was actually enjoying, and now when I go back after grinding anyway I'll have to just skip shit.

It was just a mix of either overextending to protect a couple of the others, or turtling and losing people to those I didn't overextend for. It was fucked.

At least I shouldn't have any issue when I go back.
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>>377972000
IT DONT WORK FOR RE ROLLING LEVELUPS SO IS GARBAGE.
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So has all the dlc been released or at least revealed? Last I heard there was one more piece of mystery content.

If it's a lunatic tier mode it'd be an instant buy for me, but we know that won't happen.
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Do you get anything for killing Jedah? During the first battle with him, he left early and during the final battle, I thought he was vulnerable during the 4th, 8th, 12th, etc. turn rather than being vulnerable during the 4th, 8th, 12th, etc. attack. So after trying to attack him twice and not dealing any damage, I just left him and killed Duma.
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Not gonna make my own thread since there are already 3 FE threads. I went to gamestop to buy my first Fire Emblem title today and couldn't decide what to get based on the limited information available on the game cases.

I saw Awakening, Echoes: Valentia, and fates conquest. What are the pros/cons and difficulty level of each game? Any suggestions on which to buy? I don't mind a tough learning curve either if one is particularly easy.
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>>377974085
If I'm not mistaken the mystery content is a crossover event with fire emblem cipher so you can recruit characters from that game
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>chp 4 roadblock on alms side
do i just have to do duma tower with celica to clear this shit up
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>>377973627
That's was my feeling as well. Thanks.
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>>377974462
Yeah. It's so Celica has to watch Alm off his dad
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>>377973017
Ever heard of a Bow Knight?
Ever heard of a Killer Bow?
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>>377973663
I 100% agree but I don't know why but I'm really loving the game.
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>>377974259
I wouldn't buy fates, it's a game split into 3 parts and i don't support practices like that, not even to mention the shitty localization.
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>>377974641
Python is shit and I made Tobin an Archer, and he's barely any better. Doesn't matter, though, since when they do hit at all they still one round.
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What's with starting threads with Tumblr and twitter screen caps
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>>377974352
>crossover event with fire emblem cipher

I want to believe this will mean Hidari gets to draw more characters, but they'll probably just copy paste card art.
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>>377974726
/v/ is full of tumblr and twitter kiddies now.
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>>377974726
Literally the only guys that are making memes rn.
Let's fix that, guys
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>>377974909
They were all already shown on some Japanese show.
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Is Clive supposed to be complete shit?
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>>377974259
Awakening was the starting point for a number of people. It's not the best game in the series but you won't really notice its flaws if you play it as your first. The story is pretty shit. There's also a pretty big emphasis on pairing up and marrying your characters if you enjoy that stuff.

Fates has two version: Birthright and Conquest. Birthright is easier and closer to Awakening, Conquest is more challenging and closer to older games in terms of map design. Both have a story that's even worse than Awakening. There's also a third DLC-only storyline called Revelations, but it manages to have an even worse story than the other two versions. It also has the waifu mechanics from Awakening. Awakening's probably a better entry point although I guess you could start with Birthright as well.

Shadows of Valentia is a remake of the second game: Gaiden. Both Gaiden and SoV are very different from the other games in the series, they have things like dungeon crawling, villages and sidequests. The map design is pretty poor because they've been lifted straight from a NES game, but otherwise it's an enjoyable game. The story is less complex than Awakening/Fates but it ends up being better because of it. Also the waifu mechanics and other "series staples" (like weapon durability and the weapon triangle) is gone. If you do start with this then be aware that the other games in the series are pretty different.

An alternative would be to play FE7 (known as Fire Emblem in the West) with a GBA emulator or on the Wii U eShop. It was the first FE game to be released in the West and a third of the game is basically a tutorial. If you want to play the first game in the series (Marth's game) Shadow Dragon is a remake of the first Famicom game released on the DS. You could start with that but be warned that it's a very barebones remake and the later games add a lot more to the series.
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>>377973208
I'm enjoying it partially but there are parts I really fucking hate. Mostly everything that has to do with Cantors. Archers on Alm's side are a pain too because my archers suck dick. I want someone as based as Leon.
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>>377975337
mhm
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>>377975337
yes
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>>377972832
More pics like this please.
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>>377975397
>his Leon doesn't deepthroat cocks

Bad enough he's a clear faggot, but he sucks dick and because I missed Atlas he's the only Archer on Celica's side
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>>377966234
>tfw no Attack Helicopter class change
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>>377975442
>>377975471
What about Est? She's shit for me while Pella is doing fine and Catria is a goddess.
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Any tips for forging? How would i craft a brave sword for example?
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>>377970598
Why did you post a bitch
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>>377975668
worse than her sisters but not as bad as clive
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I have 6 dread fighters in post-game (Gray, Saber, Deen, Kamui, Jesse and Atlas). Is it worth reclassing any of them?
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>>377975851
Yeah, down to Villager and back through Dread Fighter until everything caps.
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>>377973812
Of course. I'd rape my destrier again and again
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>>377975774
Steel bow can be forged into a killer or longbow. Can't remember which but they're both worth making. Silver has the other option.

Shadow sword can be forged into a brave sword and vice versa
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>>377975548
My Leon rapes dicks. Looking at him and looking at Python makes me feel genuine sadness that my usable units on Alm's side are a bunch of sword fighters, a healer and a loli with a fang.
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>made Atlas a Cav
How bad did I fuck up?
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So who do you guys think is the funniest character in the game? The one who says those little comments that just crack you up? I've been enjoying Alm's dorkiness, and Mae is pretty fun too.

Image mostly unrelated.
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>>377972000
Pretty dumb. If its reused again for the Switch game it should be disabled for Hard and Lunatic like Phoenix mode was for Fates.
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>>377974259
Conquest is a very fulfilling experience on the highest difficulties. The enemy placement and the AI does not give you any mercy, and the experience is gained solely through the story so you can't grind, and thus must be strategic in who you allocate exp to. Some of the maps have gimmicks which are quite annoying, but on the whole the maps are well designed and varied. The story is notoriously terrible! however. I recommend it after you have experience with one of the other two.

SoV presents a good story with a fleshed out world. There are lots of side quests and optional items to find. It is quite different from standard FE, so while you'll learn the basics about the games, you'll also be learning a system which doesn't translate to the other games fully. The maps are very bland, as a weak point.

To be honest, I'd suggest you start with Awakening. It's story and maps are somewhere between the two games above, and you can grind if you need extra gold and exp. It has a lot of criticism here, but it's a fun game. At some point you should try all three, though. But Awakening is a good place to start.
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>>377976165
Fucking growth rates man
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what the fuck do i do with this first celica stage of chapter 4, i can't clear this without losing units.
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>>377975668
Est took a while to get going but I felt like she was worth it in the end just for the Falcon Knight's bonus damage against Terrors. I gave her a Javelin so she didn't have to expose her shitty defense to counter attacks by Necrodragons.
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>>377976457
Go grind.
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So Lukas just got to Lv10 Knight. Should I promote him into Baron immediately, or give him a few more level ups?
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>>377976236
CAN'T COUNT TOBIN OUT
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>>377976558
my power is like 1420
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>>377976165
>growths
Python, Luthier, and Clive are my useless squad on Alm's side.
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>>377976728
Just promote immediately. You most likely won't bring him into the endgame and the skills from baron are nice to have, even if typically unneeded
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>>377976909
Power means jack shit when the enemy has 10+ units on the field
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>>377976909
Make it 2420
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>>377976165
That's one sexy Leon you've got there, mate. Mine is good too but he doesn't compare. And he's already a bow knight.
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>>377974909
They already showed the concept for Emma and Shade Hidari was drawing on some show.
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>>377977278
They showed all 4 characters in game already.
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>>377974909
>>377977278
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>>377977041
Alright. Faye can also promote, so should I do that? She's a Cleric
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>>377977374
I mean artwork, like anon was asking.
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>>377977278
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How much would it cost me to get my gender reassigned to Gold Knight..? Men tend to be girly metrosexuals these days and I cant be doing with that bullshit.
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>>377969204
Just how sensitive to light do you need to be that looking at the sun hurts?
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>>377969751
I'm playing this game on Hard and I honestly feel like it's too easy. I wished that Berkut (and Fernand) were more beefed up/challenging.
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>>377977278
>>377977383
Is that Armads in the background
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>>377966234
What should I reclass all the villagers as? Also can I change their class later if I don't like it?
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>>377977815
Grey - Merc only
Kliff - Cav or Archer, your call
Tobin - Mage
Faye - Cleric

And no
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>>377976236
Gray
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>>377974352
Still don't know why they just didn't make Yuzu a Merc considering she's already been a Dread Fighter at one point, granted it's Fates' Dread Fighter.
Knowing ISIS they probably don't want to bother making a female merc in the game just for one unit.
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Any point in changing him back to villager?
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Do the pegasus sisters join you the same chapter you aid them in, or do they join you later?
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>>377977972
>no
well shit
I've heard leveling works differently in this game so what level should I class change everyone or should I do it right away? I just got Silque.
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>>377976236
Gray.
Clair is pretty great too.
Also love how big of an edgelord Kliff is.
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>>377978127
Go meet them at the village after helping them. You don't have to talk to them or anything during the battle.
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>>377978090
>penetrate

L-lewd Saber.

>>377978127
Go to the village you were in earlier. You can get them immediately.
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>>377978127
Go back to the village where you first found them, talk to them and they'll join you
>>377978157
Promote right away
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>>377978090
They keep their stats besides mov so you loop the Merc line and keep raising them if you wanted.
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>>377978127
You can recruit Catria and Palla at the port after helping them. They'll join you to rescue Est.
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>>377972832
that picture is backwards.
Celica cucked Faye
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>>377966234
Who is the Hector of Echoes?
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Is there a way to change this shit UI? I want to see how much damage I'm going to do in an attack and not have to att- def every time.
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Why is she so great?

Why is Boey absolute garbage?
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>>377978527
Lukas for me. Gameplay-wise, anyway.
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>>377978384
>implying Alm doesn't use Faye as his cumrag while Celica is out bitching about how much he oppresses her with the patriarchy to Mae
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>>377977815
Best to worst classes for all the villagers, in my opinion, are:

Kliff:
Mage
Merc/Soldier/Archer
Cav

Tobin:
Archer/Mage
Merc/Soldier
Cav

Gray:
Merc
*huge gap*
Archer/Soldier/Cav
Mage

Faye:
Cleric
*huge gap*
Peg Knight
Mage/Cav

Atlus:
Merc
Archer/Soldier/Cav
Mage

Also in general Mercenary is the best class and Cavalier is the worst. Anyone you make into a Merc is going to be great and anyone you make into a Cav is going to suck.
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>>377978629
She has a shit voice.
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>>377978597
Go to Options and switch Combat Forecast to Simplified.
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Is Conrad shit?
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>>377978669
Kliff had the most kills for me of any unit not named Alm, and I made him a cavalier.
If that's his worst class, I can't even imagine what he'll be like next playthrough.
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>>377978629
BIG
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>>377978669
>Faye
>shit cav
She's literally better than Mathilda
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>>377978867
Kliff is generally good as anything because of his high 60% speed growth. But yeah he'll generally be better as a Mage or Merc than as a Cav or Archer for example.
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>>377979047
Yandere powers give you superhuman strength.
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>>377979047
Faye is also a pretty good mage. The only problem is that it takes a while for her to get a spell beyond Fire.
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Special skills that activate for an HP fee are so, so much better than skills that activate on random chance. I really hope newer FE games implement something similar.
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>>377979047
Faye is death incarnate, blessed by the spirit of war but scorned by love.
She will be good no matter what you do, but it is a waste to make her cav.
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>>377979454
Tatiana is a better cleric and Clive is the Boey of Cavaliers.

I'd make Faye a cav or peg knight.
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>>377979385
I like the weapon-linked skills too. I think some hybrid of unique skills and weapon skills would be cool in a future installment.
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>>377977278

Please Hidari, don't ever leave Fire Emblem.
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>>377978697
FIST OF JUSTICE
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>>377978785
He's solid.
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>>377978669
>Cavalier is the worst
I made Gray a Cavalier expecting them to be as useful as they are in every other Fire Emblem game, but they've all under performed. Really wish I had gone with merc.
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>>377979138
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So when are people class changing in this?

I'm doing everyone at 10 (or 12 if it's one of those classes that requires it). Going ASAP goes against all my fire emblem instincts, but apparently grinding to 20 takes forever in this one.
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When does Alm promote? I'm on chapter 4
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>>377980237
Chapter 4 when you finish Celica's maps.
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>>377980127
Asap.
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>>377979047
Well, that's not true. At all.

Given 10 levels, and 50% growths across the board (that is +5 in every stat) Faye can't match any of Mathilda's level 1 Paladin base stats apart from Def and falls WAY behind in Speed.

And Faye's growth rates are all around 30%, not 50, so...

Mathilda has way higher overall growth rates than her too, so it only gets worse from there...

Your Faye may have been RNG blessed, but your personal experience isn't fact.
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>>377980237
You unlock it during Celica's portion of chapter 4, in the forest village.
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>>377980237
In chapter 4 you have to visit a village in the lost treescape as Celica to unlock Alm's promotion. You still have to go to a shrine to promote though.
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>>377977092
>>377977108
managed to actually clear it without grinding, soldier spam OP
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How long is chapter 5 ?
I'm getting started on 4 and I still haven't promoted my pegasus and mages/clerics, they're around 12-15. Was planning on getting them to 20 first but exp gain is so slow I'm worried I'll barely use them in their final tier before endgame.
Should I just promote or grind them ?
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>>377979942
The Cav class has the worst base stats and NO growth modifiers, so yeah, it's bad in this game.

And Gray pretty much has to be a Merc, his growths aren't good enough to be great as any other class.
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>>377980431
Chapter 5 is one long dungeon and you can't leave once you start.
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Why do the amiibo dungeons have such good music?
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>>377981192
>Boey and Mae
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Can you get the DLC for free with a hacked 3DS? I refuse to support DLC practices as Jewish as the ones in Fire Emblem and since Echoes will probably be the last 3DS game I buy I don't have to worry about firmware updates for future games.
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>>377981963
Yes
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>>377981963
Yeah it works, can confirm as I'm playing the DLC maps right now
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Is it possible to play/get the amiibo units with a hacked 3DS or is not possible yet?
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Why does Clair keep referring to people as "a boy?" Is she a recruiter for the Faceless Men?
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>>377982393
Alm is younger than her and she's nobility so she doesn't give a fuck at times.
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Clair and Gray's rank B support conversation is pretty brutal
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>>377972000
It doesn't let you reroll level ups, and some of the shit in this game is just cancer, so I think it's fine. I try not to use it as much as I can and only reset if I get Crit by like a 1 percent chance or miss my 95 percent chance to hit.
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>>377982752
She just found out she lost the Almbowl
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>>377982752
Made me like her a lot more. Too bad she is still second hottest girl. Matilhda is fucking gorgeous.

Honestly that b support confuses me on Gray more. He obviously likes women, but he can't stand them at the same time. What the fuck, Gray.
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when is the next dlc availible it says 5/25/2017 but it's fifteen minutes after midnight and its not avalible :((((((
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>background artwork for each class is done in the style of ancient greek paintings
>you can't see them properly because the character portrait is cockblocking you
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>>377983160
eshop doesn't update until like noon est.
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>>377983347
Double tap on the portrait and it zooms in and you can move it over to see a little bit better depending on which character you select. Some have big heads
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Holy fuck, Celica maps are insane, I just passed through the swamp in act 4. I had to bait the enemy for several turns using invoke. Who tought that this was a good idea?
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>>377983347
whenever you're fighting ghosts the portraits are clear so you can see the background
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Echoes feels like the SMTXFE I've always wanted. 8/10 in my book. And just did the quest of the tired mother looking for her lost son, I didn't ask for that ending
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How do I forge the rusted equipment without turning them into shitty gear?

Do I need something?
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>Backtracking to the very first shrine on Alm's route to use up the fountains
>Monster group with 2 garudas and 2 gargoyles appears out of fucking nowhere

If it weren't for Tobin pulling like 3 lucky crits out of his ass while I turtled in the corner of the map, it would've been a party wipe.
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>>377984426
Its random when you pick them up, though there does seem to be rusted weapons guaranteed to become the regalia in the late game.
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>>377972000
Its saved me from getting butthurt over missing two 55% attacks in a row once so far. I like that its limited enough to make it so that you'll still lose if you're a braindead retard but has enough uses that it encourages you to take risks to speed things up.
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Anyone else really enjoying the soundtrack? Every theme is memorable as fuck.
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>>377982331
SOMEONE RESPOND OR I'M KILLING THIS HOE
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Are there any special recruits in this game? I know you have to choose between Sonya and Deen but I want to know if there's anyone secret like that guy in PoR in the desert
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>>377978249
Speaking of lewd Saber, I could totally see a doujin where Saber is a bit drunk and denies getting hired for just the dagger alone and insists she offer her body as payment. She obviously accepts and cried "I'm so sorry Alm" and shit but ends up loving it.

Shit would be 10/10.
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>>377985717
Not really, it's not entirely obvious how to recruit characters like Zeke and Nomah, but that's about it.
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>>377972000
Shitty bandaid to get around Gaiden's flaws instead of actually addressing them.
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>>377985801
You forgot the part where they continue fucking behind Alm's back after the ending.
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>>377985091
So lemme get this straight. You have a rare chance of making really good shit from a rusted weapon which is a rare find to begin with.
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>>377972000
It takes out the risk management in an already easy and lacking in strategy game and should be disabled on hard mode.
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>>377986056
No, when you get a rusted weapon, what it turns into is already preset. You can usually tell by how much it costs to clean it. The more rarer weapons usually cost 1 gold mark to clean.
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>played a shit ton of Kid Icarus Uprising
>played a shit ton of Smash 3DS
>circlepad is perfectly fine
>one playthrough of this game and my circlepad almost comes off
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>>377986765
>using the circle pad on a grid based game
why
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>Genny expels 2 necrodragons

spell is so damn useful
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>>377986308
And I believe you can tell by the silhouette
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>>377986857
I used the d-pad throughout most of the game, it was only the dungeons where I used the circlepad (which makes it even weirder that this was the game to cause issues with my circlepad).
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>>377986963
>Nuibaba Seige
>Warp Alm in to kill her
>He does but only makes it out with 1HP because Medusa hits
>Run in with Gray and kill the Cantor
>One Arcanist still left
>Have Faye use Physic on Alm
>Arcanist hits him with death and kills him anyway

Fuck this chapter. I knew I should've used rescue instead.
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>>377987290
Didn't mean to reply
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>>377987038
It was most likely already on the way out before you played FE and this was just the last straw.
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Grey seems low key super useful as a mage early game. His base attack being higher is significant in getting those one round kills that other mages won't. And when he starts lagging behind because of having shit spells you get a better mage.
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>>377987485
I think Faye is actually the best early game mage.
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>season pass is 60$
for what fucking purpose

Is there anything worthwhile in this?
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>>377987554
It's free if you're a filthy pirate.
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You know, this game reminds me a lot of SMT IV. From how the dialogue is displayed, game switching to 3D dungeons, to the towns. Just the whole presentation really.
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>tfw you forget Nomah
Just remembered him after unlocking Alm's promotion and now I have to backtrack and suffer 1 billion spawns.
He would have been useful on those shit swamp maps too.
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Is it worth waiting to promote my villagers? I just started act 3 and still have an army of peasants.
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>>377987613
Can you still hack your 3ds if it's up to date?
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>>377987687
I'm on Act 4 and still running around with Villagers. It's probably best to promote early, but my OCD compels me to wait for 20, enemy Dread Fighters/Witches be damned.
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>>377987534
But then you miss out on an extra Pegasus Knight or Cleric so there's a bit of a trade off long term.
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>>377987759
If by up to date you mean literally latest firmware, probably not, but I'm not exactly the most up to date on the 3DS hacking scene. Try to find /hbg/ on /vg/ and check there.
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>Killed Zeke
>He's not evil and there's no talk option so figure he'll Get Better
>Realize that I actually goofed and he doesn't Get Better

Video games have trained me to go to towns before dungeons. I'm sorry.

>>377987617
Same here. The full-body sprites in towns in particular. For the first few hours of the game I was actually kind of unsettled by them.
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>>377987759
https://3ds.guide/get-started
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>>377987687
I waited until they were at level 10, the experience gains after that drop hard so it's not worth holding them back.
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>>377987845
Using her as a Mage right now, I kinda like it more than Pegasus Knight. A mage doesn't have any right being this bulky.
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>>377987931
It's like you never played Gaiden, everyone knows you rescue Tatiana from Nuibaba before fighting Jermoe so Zeke joins you.
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Should I promote my villagers immediately or give them a couple levels of grinding?
So far, none of them have an obvious talent besides maybe Grey. I'm thinking he'd be best as a Merc. Tobin is pretty fast but has middling str, Kliff is squishy and hits like a sponge, and Faye is just meh.
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>>377987964
I'm dumb and not really sure what I'm looking at but does this boot9strap thing mean I can hack my 3ds?
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>>377987931
The dialogue before the fork in the road heavily suggests that you're better off dealing with Nuibaba before Jerome. It's similar to how the dialogue suggests you should deal with Greith before heading to Mila's temple. You only have yourself to blame.
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>>377988219
Make them all Mercenaries so they can continue the way of the sword. Make Faye a Mage for the exact same reason.
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>>377988268
are you on 11.4 and own any of the dsiware games?
"Fieldrunners"
"Legends of Exidia"
"Guitar Rock Tour"
"The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords"

if so you can hack it, otherwise you can't.
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holup, this got released?
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>>377988506
I don't but am I still able to get them somehow?
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>>377988219
Grey is a merc, dread fighters are bonk as fuck.
Kliff gets good spells, high base res and a nice speed growth. Best suited for mage but archer works.
Tobin's growths are all kind of eh around except skill. Archer fits him but another merc (which means another dread fighter) can never hurt.
Faye gets really good unique spells as cleric. She also works nice as mage since she gets seraphim. No rescue shenanigans in this game so pegasus knights lost their biggest utility but still have arrow weakness. The fragility isn't worth it, you get clair if you need a flier to open doors and shit.

Cavaliers are bad in this game, I found this out the hard way.
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>>377988765
>This method requires that the source 3DS buys or already legitimately owns one of the games listed on the Installing boot9strap (DSiWare Game Injection List) page.

A pirated copy of the game will not work.

And they aren't available to buy anymore
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>>377971873
I like that alm, and it makes Celica look like some sort of Lucina Lyn Hybrid
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>>377988963
well fuck me then
Guess I'll just wait and hope for someone to find a new method
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>tfw I made Faye a pegasus knight
I thought it would be a good idea since most of the pegasus knights would be on Celica's route. That was a mistake.
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>>377972832
>Faye
>not getting cucked

This is likely rape. webbum related
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>>377989184
only other option is hard modding for now.
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>>377988867
Been a while since I played non-nu-FE but how important are base stats for unpromoted units? I'm a bit confused by your advice on Kliff.

Are pegasus knights still super-sonic fast with high res? I usually use them for their combat potential rather than defensively in the GBA games.

What makes cavs so bad?
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>>377972000
checked

I like it for this game because it's an extremely slow and shitty slough without it, but I hope it doesn't return for the next games because we already have casual mode anyway, if it does the uses needs to be drastically lowered.
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>>377989237
>made Faye a Pegasus Knight for same reasons
>can't dodge worth shit but tanks as well as the Christmas Soldiers but with actual RES too

RNG in general has been unusually kind to me so far
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>>377979138
Crazy bitches are weird.
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>>377977535
Gender is up to you, you can be whatever the hell you want. Having an operation to become a member of the gold knight sex however... that'll cost you your left nut
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>>377989342
your base res is 99% of the res you will get because the resistance growths in this game vary from 0 to 9
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>>377985990
>>377985801
I hate you NTR kids,
Just have Saber fuck Genny, she's cannonly more than willing and that size difference is hot.
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>>377989342
>What makes cavs so bad?
They're not bad at all. Mathilda, Zeke, and Conrad rape everything. Heck, with the Warp nerf, you're probably going to be relying on your high mov units (Falcon Knights, Dread Fighters and Gold Knights) even more.
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>>377989342
Promotion works differently in this game.
There are no promotion bonuses, just minimum stats. If your character has lower stats than the minimum, they'll be raised to that minimum. If your character has higher stats, nothing changes. Ergo, there's no reason not to promote immediately.
For Kliff, he's squishy but fast, so mage or archer to keep him out of combat.
Enemy res stats are also low in this game so magic damage is useful to have. That and magic ignores terrain avoid bonuses.

Peg knights are fast, but res growths are fuckawful. So your base res is essentially what you'll have. The problem is their frailty and arrow weakness. But the REAL issue is that Faye's spells as a cleric are just really god damn good and not having them is a huge detriment. You can go without them on normal, but on hard you need all the bullshit you can gather. Faye can function as a pegasus knight but her alternatives are better.
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how far down does the Thabes Labrynth go, needed to evacuate so I can save some of my level ups and some of the enemies were getting too strong at the 8th floor
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>>377977618
Having working eyes
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>>377966234
Is this game good? I've never played any FE but all my friends jerk off over the franchise and I figured I might as well start here.
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>>377989940
this
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>>377989284
>>377989542
>TFW Season 2 never
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>>377990103
It's good but it's not exactly the best game to start with if you want a taste of the series.
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>>377990103
This game is about as far as you can get from what most people would consider "normal" Fire Emblem. Start with 7, AKA the one with Lyn in it.
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>Genny's Act 3 base convo

curse my sick mind for imagining that as something much worse
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>>377990103
It's good but it's a remake of a black sheep and not entirely indicative of the rest of the series. Try 7 titled simply "Fire Emblem" on the GBA if you're willing to look past dated presentation or Awakening if you want something more modern.
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>>377990103
No but /v/ is creaming themselves over it because the last 2 games offended them over stupid shit. The story and characters are nice, but the gameplay is some of the worst in the series, so it depends on what you're looking for. I'd recommend you start by emulating Fire Emblem 7.
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>>377980004
It's not fair, people. I just want Faye to have some possible happy ending, but the ISIS just doesn't want it to happen. They literally made her so she could suffer, and they made her a good unit too so even if we didn't think she's cute we'd still like her
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>>377988219
My advice would be
Gray: Merc
Tobin: Mage
Kliff: Archer/Cav
Faye: Cleric
Gray has the highest str base and growth of the villagers, so putting him in the merc class, which will fix his speed and let him go straight to work, is ideal.
Mage Tobin may seem like an odd choice, with his barren spell pool, but he gets Excalibur, the best spell in the game, pretty early. He also gets Physic as a Sage, which means he can still contribute in the backlines, when his 4 mov as a Sage eventually starts working against him.
Kliff will most likely be your fastest archer on Alm's route, and be more accurate than Python. Python will probably have more str, and similar speed though, so it's up to you. Cav Kliff will be better than Clive, and while he'll get outclassed by Mathilda, he can still put in work.
Faye gets Physic and Rescue as a cleric. Peg Knight works too, but she gets outclassed by Clair in that regards.
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>>377990406
after the shitheap that was fates, people like you deserved faye getting fucked so hard
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Wait was it possible to get the two other Pegasus Knights for Celica? I have Est and never got the other two.
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>>377990585
Yes. How did you even miss them?
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>>377990620
I...don't know? I saved them in that battle and never found them again.
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>>377990406
that faggot rejecting a yandere.
I'd kill to have a gf like this
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>>377990585
You had to go back to port after saving them.
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>>377990683
they are in the harbor after that battle
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>>377990683
When in doubt, check your towns.
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>>377971324
What did you not like about Conquest's gameplay?
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>>377990716
Well shit. Thanks. I'm already next to Duma's tower so I'm not sure if it's worth it. I do wish I had them for the cancerous swamp maps ;_;
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>>377990708
Never stick your dick in crazy, anon. Faye is not an exception to that rule.
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>>377990438
>Kliff anything but a mage
have you even seen his spell list?
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Reminder that the game literally tells you the villager's recommended classes in Ram Village.
Tobin - Archer
Gray - Mercenary
Kliff - Mage
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Is Mila's Diadem used for anything?
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>>377991128
no idea, asked about duma helm and got no response on that either
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>>377990836
And what about a crazy sticking his dick in crazy?
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>>377991097
Faye also asks about Alm's bruises in a villagr conversation, which suggests she should be a cleric.
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where do you get the lady sword again? heard tower of duma, but don't remember for sure
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>>377990406
It's up to all of us to

PROTECT

THAT

SMILE
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>>377989816
I see, so the villagers just make inadequate cavs compared to what I'll get later on then?

>>377989842
Any advantages to archers over mages? I'm having troubles deciding since there's no str vs mag stat to help me choose.
>Cleric Faye
How many clerics do you get on Alm's route? I just got Silque.
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>>377991462
You get Silque and then Tatiana in act 4
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I don't know if it's the new artstyle, the fact most of this game was written ages ago, the lack of marriage, or the fact NoA had nothing to do with the localization, but this feels like the first FE in long time that actually tried to be something besides bottom of the barrel pandering weebshit with a power of friendship black and white story.

Just the fact characters are actually allowed to die in this game is a step up.
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>>377976236
Gray and Tobin have a nice dynamic. I like their banter much more than Mae and Boey's.
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>>377976236
>Cecilia
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I remember hearing how if Celica headed to the Dragon Shrine prior saving Est, her sisters and Atlas bail, meaning you can't promote him to Mercenary. Is this true?
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>look up cia to download
>every link is undub
fucking weeaboos
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>>377991723
just go back to where you first recruit them and recruit them again and go to greith's fort
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>>377991723
Yeah, damn shame too cause i actually wanted to use him on the path to. GRieth for flavor/gameplay reasons, unfortunately had to bench him cause not going to use a fucking villager for that long
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>>377991794
just use freeshop or ciangel
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>>377978527
Faye. I've literally had her solo whole maps that had EXTRA bow knights on it.
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>>377990406
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>>377989284
damn I guess I'm downloading this shit again to make a webm with sound, didn't know my machine was beefy enough for that back then
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>>377978669
>Faye:
>Cleric
>*huge gap*
>Peg Knight

I chose Pegasus Knight for her. She's better at being one then Clair is, and their both the same level and Falcon Knights.
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>>377991723
>>377991906
You can go back to the dragon shrine and promote Atlas there though.
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>>377991906
Seems like I can just haul ass back to the Priory and promote him there. Thank god I don't have have to bench him.
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I'm pretty sure my Silque is broken. She's only a Saint, but she's better then about every other Mage so far. She's destroyed so many enemies its insane. She's actually done more damage then Kliff quite often. What happened to make her so strong?
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>>377992736
Probably RNG. Mine turned out shit.
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>>377991968
don't see it on freeshop
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>>377992885
enjoy your ban, senpai
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>>377992313
I know that, nut you have to beat Grieth first. I still did, but feels.like a waste and miss of a lot of XP on a new unit.
>>377992325
Damn, i never thought of that.
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>>377993270
No you don't, Atlas only leaves if you go north, if you go south to the shrine with the dragons before fighting Grieth you can promote him.
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>>377981192
>Forsyth's Python death

Fuck man. That smile and happy face to that realization. I hope I never lose my bro like that.
>>
>my Forsyth ended up becoming better than my Lucas
I really should have used him more in the campaign
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>>377992736
Its the RNG. Its MUCH more random in echos. People are getting random units as gods and others get nothing special. Mre Me Faye and Saber are my two that can solo maps but ALL of my archers are shit even Tobin.
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>>377979047
>>377979454
>>377992147
Faye is inferior to Mathilda as a Cav, inferior to Clair as a Peg Knight, and inferior to Delthea as a Mage.

Her only good class is literally Cleric, she gets access to really good White Magic.
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Would I like this game if I normally hate Fire Emblem games for their hyper defensive play and RNG? I heard it has more regular RPG mechanics
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>>377994490
If you hate RNG you'll definitely not like this game, though the turnwheel alleviates a lot of the annoyances.
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>>377994386
This guy gets it.
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>>377990406
>wanting an obsessive needy girlfriend and even marrying her
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Clair is great, i want to marry her
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>>377994386
To be fair, you get Delthea kinda late and damn it's nice to have a mage that's better than Luthier for Desaix.
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While I honestly enjoy the combat animation (really like how it goes right into the action than standing for a second plus the dodge with countering). Just wish they didn't have some of them having humpbacks.
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Clive really is terribly compared to Mathilda. They're both level 1 paladins right now and her stats are way better. Only def and str are lower than his and only by 2.
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>>377996342
they are both garbage units
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Is there like, a detailed guide on the subquests anywhere with a good order and timing for them and everything?
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So how does promoting in this game work?
Should I wait until my units hit level 20 and promote then, like in every other game?
Its a bit confusing, because promoting is possible at around level 7?
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I don't really know why everyone says to promote ASAP in Gaiden/Echoes. Yeah, it boosts you to the new class's base stats, but when you look at the base stats for some of the third tier stuff, Baron's 4 Speed, Gold Knight's 7 Skill, that shit is goddamn worthless. If you actually get the boost to it from promotion, too, you're in real trouble.
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>>377996736
>he doesn't have a baron with 17 speed
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>>377996807
>tfw my Forsyth actually doubles some things
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>>377996884
He is a Forsyth to be reckoned with
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>>377996615
Promote ASAP. When a unit promotes, their stats are automatically boosted to the bases of the new promotion class. Level ups in the game give minimal stat ups half the time and promoting early just saves time. Even if your unit has stats over the base of the promotion class, you don't gain any extra stats except in HP.
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>>377994256
I'm in a similar situation. For some reason my Faye turned into a god with 19 atk, 9 spd, 8 def and 8 res as a level 12 cleric. Meanwhile, all my archers are dogshit. Leon is a level 7 sniper and he still has 12 atk. Tobin and Python have 11 and 10 respectively, but they're still archers so they have room to grow.

My Mae has had shit luck too. 12 attack and 14 spd, while Boey has 15 atk and 11 spd, as well as great defense. RNG is weird.
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>>377996615
I've been promoting around level 15 unless they need the faster level ups earlier. vllagers, I promote at level 10
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>>377996449
>mathilda being garbage
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>>377998465
she looks like a man, clive must be secretly gay
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>>377996449
>>377998535
>hating on Mathilda

Can we just purge nu-fire emblem fags already?
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>Nuibaba's fort
>mfw Tobin shoots and kills the cantor and Nuibaba herself without even circling around back, just shooting right up at them from the front
>He and Python circle around the fort picking off the rest of the mobs and they can't do a thing about it

Archers are hilarious and the Killer Bow is broken.
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>>377998535
>looks like a man
>long blonde hair
>big stonking tits
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Never played this series before. Downloading Birthright now. What am I in for?
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>>377999623
a shitty fucking story and a piss easy game
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>>377999658
Oh man. That doesnt sound very reassuring.
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>>377999217
Just got done killing the postgame boss the same way

>send bow knight Tobin and Atlas straight to the boss
>both get double crit with hunters pursuit or w/e it's called
>boss dies
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>>377999756
your own fault for starting with the worst set of games in the franchise
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You know, comparing the side characters of Fates and Echoes, I'd say Echoes wins by a long shot. The most redeeming qualities of side characters in Fates was Takumi and he was pretty much the only character that didn't suck the mc's ass all the time. But Takumi alone wasn't enough to beat the charming characters of Valentia. Mind you, Takumi's drama CD was excellent. Leo was meh.
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>>377970208
Peasants aren't human. Serving subhumans is what losers do.
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This is only tangentially related to the thread, but I know there's at least a few fuckers here who pirated Echoes. Basically, have you been hit by the new banwave that Nintendo's rolling out right now, and if not, are you worried about it?
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>>377999623
>>377999658
>>377999756
>>377999841
The most worth you're going to get is the wide soundtrack that was excellent. Some of them are repetitive but nonetheless, exceptional.
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>>378000346
Conquest has better music anyway
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>>378000346
Damn. Should I get Echoes after playing through Birthright then? Or awakening?
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>>378000676
if you really want to play awakening, play the entirety of echoes first, postgame included
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>>378000676
Just get echoes anon. Fates was plain stupid, Awakening was slightly less stupid but still bad, echoes is decent.
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>>377967316
Gold Members
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>>378000783
>>378000845
I bought birthright on a whim, will get echoes after. Thanks guys. I really enjoyed the awakening demo I played
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>>377990406
Holy shit and I thought Kana got cucked hard.
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>>378001404
Faye is too crazy anyway
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>that line of dialogue with Zeke when he sees Tatiana
>defects his whole squad against Jerome
>in the most heroic way possible
>with that heartwarming music in the background

God I love this game. The game could end right now and I could be happy.
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What exactly are the differences from the original? Do they make an improvement or do they detract from what the original was?
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>>377967316
>genitalia
>in anyway related to gender
get educated, cleetus
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>>378004649
>all characters now have more than two lines of dialogue and are far more fleshed out
>same with the story, same general plotpoints and setup but with extra stuff in between and new characters
>gameplay is no longer slow as fuck
>some of the crazy shit (Dread Fighters, Pegasus Knights, etc) nerfed or reworked
>new skill system and weapon arts
>dungeon crawling and towns are now SMT4 instead of shitty hallways
>hard mode makes the game actually kind of challenging
>exp rates seem to have been adjusted, you dont have to grind anymore
>fully voiced, so get the undub if you dont feel like killing yourself
>bonus content like chapter 6 and whatever bullshit they come up with for the dlc
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>>377967316
Gold
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>>378005174
>>some of the crazy shit (Dread Fighters, Pegasus Knights, etc) nerfed or reworked
dread fighters were nerfed? I couldn't tell
>undub
fuck off weeb
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>>378004649
Gameplay is largely the same, but the story and music go from good to begin with to GOTAY material. New characters like Berkut are very well done.

None of that crap from awakening/fates like pair up and romancing is in the game.
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>>378005268
Dread Fighters are no longer immune to Devil Sword self-damage, I found that out the hard way.
>you're le weeb for wanting to play a Japanese game in the original language instead of deadpan hammy dub voice acting
>>>/twitter/
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>>378005449
Not him, but the voice acting in the dub is fantastic. Berkut's breakdown alone is worth playing with dub.
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>>378005552
You really can't go wrong with what language you pick for this game. I think they did a great job with both versions
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>>378005552
But if you don't use the undub, you won't get to see the differences between the JP voices and the EN text.
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>>378005552
>finish nier and p5
>half the cast is in echoes
Hmmmmm.
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>>378005449
Unless you can actually understand spoken Japanese then I'd go for the dub in this game. It ranges from alright to excellent, and battle dialogue doesn't have subtitles.
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>>378005923
Battle dialogue is so simple that anyone who's watched anime for a while can tell what they're saying anyway.
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>>378005923
there's also the post crit dialogue or people commenting on having low hp
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>>378005843
>Don't get wrapped up in the mood... ya hear?
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>>378006435
Ikr? I'm more suprised that they didn't get Xander for anything now. They got even the shogi idol in.
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>>378005174
Are there any dub voices that sound off? I know that I raised an eyebrow at Conrad, but that's about it iirc
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>>378007169
Sonya sounds pretty stale to me in her supports but I haven't seen anyone else mention so.
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>>378007169
Off? Not really.
Mae may (lol) sound a bit overwhelming at times, but it's balanced out by everything else.
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>>378007169
There's the usual dub problems of "every male between the ages of 15 and 18 sounding like Sonic the hedgehog" and "most bosses sounding like retards" but the only offensively bad voice is Catria from what I heard.
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>>378007461
>but the only offensively bad voice is Catria from what I heard
fuck you, she sounds hot as fuck
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>>378007169
Deen's is weird. I'll never be able to shake off him sounding like Squidward. Probably should have been edgier honestly.
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>>378007515
Yes, I too get off from emotionally dead women.
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>>378007781
retard
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>>378007461
>catria
>bad

She's supposed to sound like that after getting cucked hard in the first game. Surely you know who's dick she wanted, right?
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>>378007779
I think sometimes he sounds alright, but it's so noticeable when he dips into Squidward territory that I can't help but laugh.

>>378007515
She does sound a little bland, which I guess is the point of Catria's character as Est says she's the most quiet of the three. I like her voice actor better as Felicia
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>>378007871
There's a line between sounding sad and shitty deadpan voice acting.
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>>377990406
Are there multiple endings for her or something? I got an ending where she got married and had a family or did the localization just add that part themselfs? In that case she kind of got less fucked over in the US version.
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Mathilda is the best fucking unit in the game. Holy shit. Also Delthea a cute
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>>378007926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpSgtoSSIgM
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>>377980004
>Summoner
>Summoner-Kun
>Shipperfaggotry with a character who is neither in her the game or speaks
His name is Kiran btw
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>>378007871
>who's dick she wanted
How the fuck do they appear in that many games?
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>>377978629
*in normal cute voice*
>sure I'm still hyper(?)
*in deep af trannys voice*
>LET'S GO!

Gives me conniptions
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>>378008494
for the longest time i thought a different character was saying the 2nd half of that line because the voice change was so dramatic but maybe she just turns into a crazy murderer during battle or something.
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>>377978629
I'M AT THE TOP OF MY GAME

Boey is shit until he gets saggytitties
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>>378008749
I think it's literally her going 'hyper'
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How the fuck are you meant to kill the Mask guys in Thabes Labyrinth?
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>>378008838
blessed weapons and seraphim you dumbfuck
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>>378008838
Guts and no pain and punch harder.
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Should I go after Grieth, or head towards the temple first?
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So will Delthea randomly teleport and try to suicide against my team?
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>>378009154
just keep your long range attackers away from her, she will eventually have too little hp to attack. don't forget to have a unit block the healing area
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>>378009067
recruit atlas, go down to the dragon temple to reclass him, and the you have to fight Grieth first because otherwise Palla, Catria and Atlas leave you
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Local cute loli destroys enemy team with little to no effort.
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>>378004287
Zeke is so based and he has good taste in women Tatiana is probably a great fuck
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>>378009241
turn one she runs up to kliff who is ALL THE WAY AT THE BACK OF THE MAP and he crits her. luckily she isn't dead but god damn what the fuck
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>>378009283
You can go and get them back and then go to the dragon temple
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>>377995658
>is this a bird.png
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>>378007854
I was serious though
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>>378010530
likewise
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>>378010339
Kek
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>careful is my middle name, no really i had it legally changed

gray is amazing
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My level 5 Falcon Knight Catria only has 11 Attack.
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>>378012139
Better give her a good weapon then.
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>>378012139
using Palla and Catria is choosing between having a reliable strength stat and a reliable speed stat
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>>378012139
Use Faye instead. You DID recruit her as Celica right?
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>>378012543
>leaving unstable yandere with mc's waifu
What are you doing, anon?
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>>378008494
>>378008749
>>378008835
You've never heard someone put on a silly voice when they're goofing off?
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>>378012884
Anon, that's exactly what 'going hyper' is.
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>>378000054
Rigel was also being ruled by peasants. The only difference is that Rigelian peasants have blue skin, elf ears and can sic zombies on you for no adequate reason.
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>>378012543
Alm and Cleric Faye support is too useful to give up
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>>378005552
Berkut's voice is pure sex. It's too bad we can't recruit him.
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>>378011285
>Tfw the 3DS and Switch will never get Fire Emblem Chronicles: The Legend of Gray plus that one guy
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Do Faye and Kliff get unique dialogue if you recruit them as Celica?
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>>378014092
Yes
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>>378014092
Yes, but they don't have any base conversations with Celica.
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>>378014092
Yes. Faye is even happy to see Celica, amusingly enough, and tells Celica to punch Alm if they meet for leaving her behind. But they don't support anyone in Celica's team for the juicy bonuses.
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>>378012139
Catria has godly speed, give her a forged Silver lance and let her murder everything.
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>>377971873
>green hair anime chicks
Every time.
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>>377989542
Why is that one lady wearing underwear as if it's a mask?
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Bumping thread.

I'm pretty tempted to buy this right now, it looks like a fun intro to the Fire Emblem series.

It looks somewhat easier than the others (im new to srpg anyway, so is kinda welcome).

I saw that the 'overclasses' are paid DLC, is this absolute bullshit - or will i not care for them?

Jus looking for advice before i drop my money on my first fire emblem game.

The combat looks pretty gorgeous for a 3ds - and im looking for something new - so should i?
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>>378007871
Who's dick did she want and what happened to her
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>>378015258
It's not really conventional Fire Emblem, it's more like Shining Force if you have played that.

It's a great game though. The class DLC is optional and requires levels so high you will already be in postgame anyway.
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>>378015357
She's the original Cordelia. She loves Marth.
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>>378015357
She wanted MarMar's dick but he's engaged to the other blue-haired Pegasus Knight
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>>377982752
Even I felt that burn
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>>378015258
Overclasses will basically never be used. You need lvl 20 in the highest classes and even if you promote early you most likely won't reach that leve without extensively grinding.
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>Reclassed Lukas into a Villager and through Merc line
Holy fucking shit, he's an absolute god
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>>377966234
>no attack helicopter

TRIGGERED
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>>378016550
The Harrier class is DLC, anon.
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Nice dodge!
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>>378006080
that doesn't exactly do much to deny the 'filthy weeb' part
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TAKE YOUR FUCKING GARGOYLES AND SHOVE THEM UP YOUR UGLY ASS MIKHAIL
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>>378009380
Are there any shotas?
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Why does promoting make everyone except for the Soldier. Cav. and Archer line look worse.
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Why is Alm's party so shit? Faye and Kliff have been carrying it to part 4
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>>378019097
The villagers in the prologue.
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>>378019472
I really want to ruffle his hair
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>>377989284
>>377989542

what anime?
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>>378019429
The only really shit units in Alm's route are Clive and Luthier. Everyone else is fine. If someone tells you Forsyth is shit, tell them THEY'RE shit because Forsyth does fine even with 0 growths just from getting by the Knight class bases.
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>>378019472
Yeah they are all cute. Just wondering if there's any later in the game.
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>>378019560
Luthier is good, just not nearly as good as Delthea. He functions fine at base
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>>378019560
Python also seems to be notably shit
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>>378019809
Python is only shit if for some reason he fails to proc his 55% Spd growth a bunch of times. 15 base Str as a Bow Knight is fine.
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>>378019737
Luthier is as much of a witch bait as Clive
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>>378004857

lol, /v/ is clearly not the place for you, fag.
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How many units will I need for endgame? I have 4-5 good units each party
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>>378020572
Like 10 or so. You'll need to deal with spawn of like 6 or so eye monsters. Don't worry because you'll get some fantastic units like Tatiana or whatever and Conrad
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Is it ok to not even send Clive and python into battle? I don't even want to use them
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Should you promote everyone as soon as you can or just the villagers?
My Lukas is ready to become a knight but I want to know if I should level him a bit more first.
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>>378020348
How's that? He has a decent 8 res against them, and I believe the only witches that double him at base are the fire using ones with 6 attack speed in chapter 4.
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>>378020902
I hope you have at least one archer. Because they're absurdly useful
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>>377966234
I fucked up, is there a way to get more golden daggers?
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>>378021381
>Valbar getting a point in speed

What sorcery is this?
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>>378021506
Did you throw it away?
Also, no, there's only one Golden Dagger because it forges into the Beloved Zofia.
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>>378021706
I forged it into Beloved Zofia indeed but I need that skill that lets you transform killed enemies into food
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>>377966234
Best way to level up shitty villagers?
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>>378022573
Killing enemies
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>>378022648
How do I kill enemies with shitty villagers on hard mode?
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>>378022573
Feed them kills. You should only level them up to the point they can change class then promote them to Merc inmediately anyways.
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>>378016365
Everyone is a god when they reclass because they don't lose stats.
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>>378022747
Use Alm/Lukas/Gray to weaken enemies, then finish them off with whoever
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>>378022751
Yeah, who needs powerful units anyway!
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>>377966234
Deen or Witch tits?

Pros and Cons?
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>>378021230
I have Tobin and he's doing really well. I guess it would help a lot to add another in python, but what about Clive? He just seems shitty and I don't like him
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>>378023005
You can always reclass them to villagers isnt it?
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>>378023071
Deen since Sonya is doomed in her ending.
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>>378023219
No
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>>378023234
Explain
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>>378023291
Sonya becomes a witch after researching a cure for Witchism.
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>>378023071
Deen for facerape, Sonya for utility and plot catharsis
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>>378023071
Do you want another merc or another mage?
Go for Deen, you never have enough mercs.
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>>378022480
No, you really don't.
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>>377966234
Still waiting for the SE copy to come in and since discussion for it will be dead by the time it gets here, have any advice for a new player to it? I know how the combat works and how it is different, but that's it.
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>>378024059
Why not just pirate it?
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>>378024059
Don't let the enemy reduce your HP to 0
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>>378024059
Make Gray and Faye mages because Alm barely gets any, Tobin a Cav, and Kliff a soldier.
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>>378024357
Because I like collecting the useless physical bonus stuff. Not against pirating, but I don't partake in it myself.
>>378024359
what about the enemy tho
>>378024531
Thanks
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>>378024531
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>>378024059
Pray for good levels. Be sure and do the Thieves' Shrine, and actually use the cleric you get from there so she'll learn warp, and pray for her to gain atk so you can just warp Alm to the boss or whatever needs to die really fast and let him kill it. If you want Rescue and Anew, make Faye a cleric, then pull some stupid bungee-jumping shit by warping someone in and using rescue to pull em out.
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>>378004857
FACT: You can not support equality and individuality while also supporting gender identity and fluid gender amidst a large spectrum of genders.
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>>378023137
Nah he's ass. Feel free to ignore him
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>>378024870
Reminds me of utilizing a team of Python Snipers armed with Kishins in Devil Survivor 1 and 2 to wipe out maps without ever touching enemies.
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>>378005706
You do realise most people in the west can't speak or understand spoken japanese, right?
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>>378024619
Why not buy the game but still pirate it so you don't have to wait for the copy to ship? That's what I did.
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>>378008838
>>378008953
RIP AND TEAR
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>>378019148
I think the better question is why have generals looked like shit in battle since the shift to 3D?
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>>378024619
He's bullshitting you. Make Gray a Merc and Tobin an Archer. Kliff should be a mage and Faye a Cleric
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>>378023371
How the fuck do you manage to fuck it that badly?

Also source?
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>>377995658
too bad she gets BLACKED
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>>378019556
Shimoneta. Premise is that Japan made dirty words illegal.
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>>378025754
>Not 3 Mercs and one pegasus powerhouse

Do you even Hard mode?
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>>378025482
Because that would pretty much defeat the purpose of buying it. I don't buy SEs to sell them, I like opening the box and holding the stuff, looking at the books, etc., and this means I will end up playing the physical version anyway, so I'd rather start on the copy I own rather than the pirated copy. If the DLC is any good I might pirate that because fuck that retarded shit.
>>378025754
Now I'm confused.
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>>378025896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Ys67Ka9M8
Around 3:30
>>
I'm at Ch5 in Duma's temple or wherever.
Beyond the cell where you see Mila there was a fork, you could go left or right. I went left and I've been making a bit of progress - what was to the right?

Also is there a shrine down here so I can promote?
>>
>>378023005
>>378023269
>Those few times when they gain 4 stat ups
Those truly are magical times.

It pissed me off at the start but since I never really found anything needing high stats I was ok with it.
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>>378026057
That other guy was joking you. At Ram Village if you inspect certain spots it gives hints on the best class to give each villager.
Gray - Merc. Mostly because his speed sucks and Merc gives high speed in class change.
Kliff - Mage
Tobin - Archer
Faye - Either Cleric or Peg Knight. Both work for her. I picked Cleric mostly for the extra healing but you don't need it.
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>>378026179
There's a warp puzzle later on. IIRC messing up loops you around to through there.
Yes there's a shrine in the dungeon.
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>Celica spends the entire trip to Zofia Harbor slaughtering every bandit and pirate in her way
>mfw when she has the balls to criticize Alm for not finding a peacful solution to the Rigelian invasion

what a bitch, Celica's only saving grace is that her army has better characters
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>>378026471
I just found the shrine.
Is there anything important I can miss down here?
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>>378023005
Bringing them to level 20 as villagers before promotion is a massive waste of time and unecessary. If you're willing to grind for like an hour right out of the gate just so the villagers can still contribute to the rest of the campaign until promotion at lvl 20, and you don't mind having the most boring army imaginable, then sure, level them to 20 for that amazing 7 stat point difference between them and a lvl3 promotion into a real class.
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>>378025986
oh man this is gonna be gud. up to episode 3 now and haven't seen any lewdness on that scale yet
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>>378026578
You can get Gradivus by taking one of the warp points. I can't remember which one though.
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>>378026578
No. You can always come back later in the post game.
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>>378026445
I see, thank you
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>>378024059
Honestly as long as you're a fire emblem veteran you're fine for the most part but you do need to know about how promotion works.

The way it works is that when you promote your stats will be pushed up to the promoted class bases, if theres any stat above that base you get nothingfor that stat, if ALL stats are above base the character just gets +1HP.

So basically, your gains as you level up the character are whatever stats that character has above their promotions bases. In other words you need to choose between promoting early, or grinding for stats.

My advice is that once you reach promotion level, you check what stats your character has above their promotions bases, and go for a little grinding if any stat is at the base or close to reaching it, so you get a gain.
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>>378026568
I liked Celica until she turned into a dumb bitch at the end of chapter 4.
>>
If I equip a brave blade on Delthea does that critboost her spells too?
>>
These over classes what the fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFC421WX5zs
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>>378026969
Are classes DLC wtf?
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>>378027048
4th tier promotions that weren't in Gaiden. Highly unnecessary.
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>>378026445
>Faye - Either Cleric or Peg Knight. Both work for her. I picked Cleric mostly for the extra healing but you don't need it.

Honestly, the healing is a nice bonus to getting Rescue, Freeze, Again, Seraphim and another Nosfertank (that actually has good Hit with it thanks to her Alm support).
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>>378027121
I thought they were third tier, or is villager counted as first-tier?
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>>378026969
>those Kamui stats
Holy shit dread fighter loop
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>>378026678
From the entrance to the room it's the bottom left one
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>>378027121
They still could have included them as classes that unlock for the post-game.
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>>378027505
If you include villager then it's 5th. Merc->memedon->dread fighter
Soldier->knight->baron etc
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>>378027728
Do you see how broken those classes are?
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>>378028061
I haven't seen their stats, do they have really good bases? All I've heard is apparently elephant knights or whatever lose a mov upon promotion. It's
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