Do you support game censorship? Pic-related, this was censored

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>>377957689

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is there any company who censors as much as Nintendo?

No, but I also don't sperg about it when it happens (as long as there are options).

>>377957000
It was censored because Americans are all cultureless, sheltered fucks who can't handle any sort of opposite worldview without crying in outrage.
Yanks are truly the gift that NEVER stops giving, they're the funniest fucking country to watch fuck up and they consistently fuck up which is hilarious to watch.

>>377957000
Well it's America. Angry moms and western kids =censorship.

They also own the product, so they're free to censor.

>>377957000
Maybe the US release is how the game is supposed to look, and Japan censored us?

>>377957889
what happens in the NA version?

>>377958563
Old Dorrie was shit and new Dorrie is infinitely better in literally every single way imaginable.

>>377959083
He gets hit with a cork, to emphasize it's a play toy gun.

>>377959083
>>377959203
>Urg! Ya corked me!

>>377959170
>>377958563
i agree on the dino-dolphin but i genuinely liked the old scuttlebug, and its not because of the autism video either
its just so goofy looking and cartoony, especially compared to the new police tape one

>>377957000
No I don't support it, and I'd prefer it not happen.
But I'm not going to be a bootyblasted baby and refuse to play or purchase a game for a few minor puritanical localisation changes

>>377959438
if you buy a censored game, that means you support it. So i guess you do

>>377957889
>>377959203
>>377959330
I don't like censorship but honestly the censored version suits Mario more & makes it seem sillier which is fitting.

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>>377958894
wew lad
Are you a leaf, or did a Burger fuck your bitch?
>Cultureless
I don't get this meme. Yes, our "culture" was imposed upon the rest of the world, but that was not the fault of the average American. You Yuros need to learn to distinguish between our government and our citizens.
>Sheltered
Literally only a vocal minority and several politicians push for more censorship. We don't like it, but at the same time, name me 1 (ONE) country that doesn't censor certain things- Germany and Australia are much worse than us in this regard, and almost every European country is touchy about the holocaust.

>who can't handle any sort of opposite worldview without crying in outrage.
This is exactly what you're doing right now, On this Origami Instruction Question board

good b8 tho

>>377959826
not in the gba release though

>>377959546
>don't buy the game
>"oh well, guess the rest of the world isn't interested in this series! LOL"
>don't even get the opportunity to bitch about censorship because no more games are localized

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is this censorship

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>>377960260
When NoA gets involved, no one wins.

>>377960357
>Felicia
>???
>Lillith

>>377960397
No, that's localization.

That mark would appear as a non-sequitur to US audiences, so they don't process the idea it's a flag for a beginner.

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>>377960526
Except for the fact that you can just look up the JP version while playing the NA version, which is shown right in your image there.

>>377960997
>non-sequitur
so you're saying it wouldn't humorous if they just left it be in the US version? Because that's what non-sequitur means ya sophisticated fool.

>>377960526
now what gets me about this is if it was just some normal kid's game i could understand, but theres not a single person buying this who isnt a weaboo the core audience for this niche game either doesn't give two shits about fan-service or wants extreme amounts of it.

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No, it still fucking hurts what they did to Fatal Frame.

Fuck Nintendo for listening to bitches that never even bought the game.

>>377961359
>No, it still fucking hurts what they did to Fatal Frame.
This is easily one of the dumbest things /v/ has whined about.

The actual game is shit. This is what you should cry over, you permavirgin fucks. Not to mention the Zero Suit is actually more form fitting and sexier to boot.

>>377960526
On the one hand, the left appeals to my love of over-enveloping skintight suits.
On the other hand, it takes the right away from us. Also, the change is completely pointless because >>377961296 There's part of even the first trailer where a town is flooded with an ocean of blood. Who the fuck were they trying to appeal to? All those kids that played Strange Journey?

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reminder than Chunky Kong is one heck of a guy, not one hell of a guy

Yes I support localization

>>377961946
fucking white revisionists trying to change black culture to their whims

>>377960526
I can understand removing a bit of cleavage (though to this extent would be being highly generous in said understanding), but even the hands and sheaves? The fact that's there's absolutely no skin showing below the neck just looks weird and off putting. They even changed the gauntlets to match in hue so there's no differing in fabric choice and it all just blends into one giant mesh. Just awful design. It's like she's been tarred and feathered.

>>377961614
>Not to mention the Zero Suit is actually more form fitting and sexier to boot.
It usually is, but in Fatal Frame it looked like rubbish.

>>377961359
Yes. Because nothing builds up a feeling of dread and suspense like tits and ass. I can't watch porn because titties make me jump when they bounce, and I just can't handle being that scared.

>>377961359

Maybe people would have given a shit if they have kept the bonuses, played it, and said, this game really sucks.

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>>377957000
What? Mario Kart had Princess Peach taking a bong rip?

>>377962437

You get the games only after you complete the game, idiot.

It's a nice bonus to fuck around with, nothing else.

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>>377958563
>mfw they put the nu-scuttlebugs in sticker star

>>377962616
i wish peach would let me take a rip from her bong if you know what i mean

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Old pic, but FUCK censorship.

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I don't think there's really a point for even having censorship anymore, especially in games like Fire Emblem, where I fucking doubt any kid is going to even play it.

>>377959583
Yeah, it's a bit funnier that way, and fits with the feel of Mario Party.

>>377961296
>>377961705
The weirdest thing is that strangely, I can't think of another Nintendo game that had gone that crazy with censorship around or after #FE.

I mean sure, Xenoblade Chronicles X had no breast slider, but still had tons of revealing outfits. And Fatal Frame got rid of the sexy outfits but the nintendo costumes also left little to the imagination. It's like if they went Hyper-SWJ to #FE SPECIFICALLY.

I may be theorizing, but maybe it got super censored because NoA, like most Americans, do not understand the concept of idols in Japan, so everything around it feels sleezy and wrong. As such, even with the age up they didn't understand all the fanservice is common in Japan in the idol industry.

At least that's what i think cause, as I said, it feels like no other game reached this level of specific censorship.

>>377963204
This one always confused me cause the USA ver looks more provocative, makes it seem she's wearing a thong or at first glance nothing....

>>377961359

Nothing was ever found about this artist right?

Also Nintendo has a long steady history of censoring shit.

>>377959720
>Immediately blaming Canadians who are categorically the only friends of America
>Sperging the fuck out with baseless statements in pure anger

lmao, classic Americucks.

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>>377963440
>Nintendo tells Platinum to make Bayonetta more sexy and more revealing
>But everything else has to be censored to hell and back for absolutely no reason, despite kids not being the target audience

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>>377963204
The weird thing is that with Awakening, you had this yet Tharja continued to wear her super skimpy clothing in the game.

Meanwhile #FE went out of its way to censor pic related of >>377960526 to the point of even covering the ARMS. As well as change an entire dungeon and almost every piece of clothing in the game.

What was it about #FE SPECIALLY that triggered NoA so much, cause honesty they haven't gone that 4Kids in anything around or after that. At least to that magnitude.

Someone post THAT Cape Fulgur image

>>377963529
Soda Popinski is better.

>>377963829
Japan Nintendo is not Nintendo of America.

>>377963874
I thought #FE localization wasn't done by Treehouse, but by one of Atlus's teams instead. My guess is they either had someone on the team who personally really hated fanservice or the team just went way overboard after their market research.

>>377963829
That's exactly, and like the examples I said. They STILL mantained SOME of the lewd.

Yes, Potato-chan in Xenoblade X was covered and you couldn't change your boobs but you could still dress every other girl in a bunny bikini.

I like to think that, yes NoA loves to go overboard, there was something about #FE ITSELF that made them go bonkers. Because otherwise we would have seen way more games around that frame that was equally as censored and there isn't the case.

>>377964043
Would the world be better if NoA just imploded in a self contained black hole?

Their dubs are shit and their censorship is terrible. Why can't we just leave this shit to NoE? Their dubs aren't shit and they're not so fucking gay that they have to crucify someone when they see a tit.

>>377964184
>they have to crucify someone when they see a tit.
don't talk about Christ that way.

>>377961359
>started off as a twitter meme
>turned into smug wendy's porn
>now it's mostly just wendy's mascot porn, ignoring the original smug amine girl context
I'm American and it's sad when Americans maturbate to a fast food mascot

>>377963829
Two different companies. One produces stuff, the other cuts stuff out when it gets to America.

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>>377963440
>do not understand the concept of idols in Japan

You might be on to something (pic semi-related). Still, I firmly believe NoA simply hates Fire Emblem, its fans, and the female form with a seething fury.

>>377964132
Maybe ATLUS thought Nintendo's laws on risky stuff were way tighter than they really were and they decided to safe-proof themselves way too much? "Let's make sure we don't leave ANYTHING that Nintendo could ask us about." or something like that because they had to use an IP that is not theirs?

Because the fact ATLUS localized it makes it even MORE strange than the usual case of NoA censoring.

When it comes to censorship #FE is truly a modern mystery I'd love to hear about from someone who worked on localization.

>>377964373
>NoA simply hates Fire Emblem, its fans, and the female form with a seething fury.

Yet main FE games have never been censored to the level #FE was. There has to be another reason.

>>377963927
unironically this. "Vodka Drunkinski" sounds like it's trying way too hard to be funny.

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>>377964297

Are you literally new to the internet or something?

>>377964367
Yet they censored nothing on Bayonetta...

>>377964146
Well there is that whole rumor/conspiracy theory that the localization group was simply changing anything and everything to get more money since then they could bill for more work done.

So perhaps they saw a much bigger cash cow for #FE than anything else which provoked the crazy reaction.

>>377963529
Soda Popinski shall always be the greatest thing ever.

>>377963874
>As well as change an entire dungeon
I knew about the clothing but what did they change about one of the dungeons?

>>377964184
I thought it was Nintendo of Europe that was behind the Fatal Frame localization.

>>377964583
>Le rule 34 xd
Doesn't matter to me, it's literally a mascot of a girl for a burger restaurant. Go jerk your dick off to something that isn't fucking fast food

>>377964604
>Bayonetta
>NoA/Treehouse
It was the same people that did Bayo 1 back when it wasn't even on a nintendo system. Take your stupid ellipsis back to tumblr.

>>377964708
>There are still faggot who try to act like people should be mad about this

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Honestly I take more offense to Treehouse's awful localization team switching out dialogue for memes and WACKY XD HUMOR

>>377964828
I'm not trying to defent NoA/Treehouse you twit. #FE was localized by Atlus NOT the Treehouse yet it was STILL censored to hell and back.

It does not matter if it's treehouse or not. I was trying to say how bizzare NoA is because their censoring makes no sense.

>>377957000
Not really, but I can accept it as long as it doesn't fuck up anything about the original intent or gameplay, and the change doesn't look like complete shit. Censorship is also a pretty broad term, and localization changes are far different from revisions.
For example: The animation in the OP was changes by NoA for the use of alcohol, which Nintendo tried to avoid showing in the SNES days. The animation is a simple victory animation, and they were both changed to fairly similar victory animations. Would have been better to not have a change at all, but the change didn't really do any harm.
On the flipside, Treehouse's localization of FE Fates didn't just remove a gameplay mechanic that wouldn't have really offended anyone (as it's not like anyone new to Japanese gaming is really going to be picking up a FE game of all things) but it also deleted several lines of character-building dialog and replaced them with strings of elipses instead of making any attempt to carry across the original intent. It's everything wrong with vidya censorship.

And then the third thing I mentioned, a revision change, is shown in >>377958563 which this motherfucker posts every time this subject comes up. It's a design change made in the remake in all regions to better reflect the current aesthetic of the series, with Dorry being changed to a design used for other dinosaur-related characters in Mario games and the scuttlebug design being changed to the design used in NSMB for the NDS, which was the huge system selling Mario title at the time. No harm done to gameplay or original intent (as it IS the original intent of the remake), and it honestly looks far better anyways.

>>377964764

>Doesn't matter to me

Amd yet you're here bitching about it.

Really makes your gray matter stimulate.

>>377957000
I'm annoyed by differences more than anything. I can't play the US version of Dynamite Heady after I discovered that the JP version is different. Same with Ristar.

>>377964708
I agree with this.

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>>377964708
>Legitimate translation company
>censorship

>>377965335
The US version of Headdy actually fucking ruins the gameplay, though, even aside from deleting all the story and shit.
https://tcrf.net/Dynamite_Headdy_(Genesis)#Regional_Differences

>>377963829
daybreakm's joltik

>>377964764
>getting butthurt over what people fap to

That's even more pathetic than sperging out over people playing video games you don't like

Bravo

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John Hardin said on twitter that they couldn't talk about the reasons why #FE was censored, implying it was Nintendo's call. I think it's safe to say that Atlus wouldn't have censored things if they had been left to their own devices.
>yfw they had the Japanese VA redub JAPANESE AUDIO lines to match the western censorship

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Interested, anyone have a change they actually like better.I dislike censorship but even I have to admit there are a few instances where I prefer the change made. Drunken mercenaries are a pretty common cliche but having a character who doesn't like to speak due to his lisp is honestly original and clever.

In Breath of Fire IV one character you have a character named Scias. Scias is pretty quiet and typically only speaks when spoken to. In the Japanese he has a broken pattern of speaking as a joke to show that he constantly id drunk. In the US release this was changed in that now he rarely speaks as he has a bad lisp when speaking. Honestly I hate changes but I genuinely love this one.

>>377965719
and AND I CAN'T OPERATE ON, THIS FAILURE.

>>377965104
You've got it backwards. Super Mario 64 DS was a DS launch title, releasing nearly two years before the first New Super Mario Bros. game. People usually call it the "New Super Mario Bros. style", but the aesthetic was already being used in games like the 64 remake and Mario Kart DS. Nintendo probably just made the decision to make the designs more standardized when they started developing DS Mario games.

>>377966105
Oh, really? Huh. I could've sworn NSMB came first, but yeah. That makes sense.

>>377957000
I really don't care about localization changes if they don't effect gameplay.

>>377965558
I acknowledge both versions.
On that note, JP Headdy's final boss was a jab at the then president of SoJ. Treasure knew he was fucking up with the 32X.

>>377965047
>I don't understand what localization is

I see, go on being dumb.

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>>377966420
Hey dipshit, Yakuza 0 was a perfectly fine localization that didn't feel the need to turn an entire conversation into a series off "..." for a joke

>>377965986
One example that really doesn't bother me were some of the CO design changes in Advance Wars. I was disappointed to hear that they were changed in general and wish it didn't go through such, but I oddly still prefer some of the design changes they made for the localization.

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I fucking hate the retards who are completely incapable of using critical thinking and who go straight to extremes.

>Video Game X has bikinis removed, blood taken out, pantyshots changed into black voids, guns changed into lasers, etc
>Video Game Y has a can of Boss Coffee changed to a Red Bull or something because that's easier for that country to identify with and more familiar to them
>WOW IF U SUPPORT Y I DON'T SEE WHY X IS SUCH A PROBLEM THEN

>>377966589
A story based in Japanese culture is easier to keep a Japanese joke in than a game in mushroom kingdom keeping a Japanese joke in.

Best localization changes in games?

>Black Knight lost to Ike because his warp powder malfunctioned in Japanese
>Black Knight lost to Ike because he realized he never got to fight against Greil at his most capable; letting Ike survive would mean someday being able to fight someone as good as Greil was at his prime

Localization is about recreating the 'feel' of the original and this shit does that better than the original script did.

>>377964708
That's pretty arbitrary.

>>377967248
I agree with all accept the pantyshot thing.

Gratuitous sexualization of panties expecally on underage looking women is defiantly a Japanese thing that is impossible for most of the non Japanese gaming market to understand.

Now if you are playing some moeblob shit like nep there is no reason to remove it.

>>377967536
>Best localization changes in games?
Professor Layton being voiced by a British guy.

>>377967638
Panties are a universal language.

>>377967794
I don't know many Americans who get hard at fucking panties on an underaged anime girl.

>>377967717
He's actually from Massachusetts.

>>377963723
>>Immediately blaming Canadians who are categorically the only friends of America


that's wrong though, japan loves us.

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>>377967536
All name changes in Ace Attorney. No one but the most hardcore weebs would ever complain about those.

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>>377967881

You probably do, it's just not something people tend to admit to.

>>377967536
Vivian being made into a girl instead of a degenerate homosexual :^)

>>377967881
Not him, but if you were a kid, you grabbed girls' asses and flipped up their skirts if they had them. Boys will be boys.

>>377964132
>>377964420
No, Atlus came out and said this was all Nintendo's doing.

A popular theory is that localizers do this to make more money. They go out of their way to look for things that could be censored, in order to delay the game and keep earning paychecks.

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>>377967536
Originally the pencil statues were octopuses, and the eraser statues were kokeshi dolls. The octopuses are there because for some reason Itoi associates being lost with having your path blocked by an octopus, and the kokeshi dolls were there to set up the pun "Kokeshi Keshi" (keshi meaning eraser) for the item you get to remove them.
Earthbound changed them to pencils and erasers, preserving the pun as "Eraser Eraser" and also creating a new pun "Pencil Eraser" where the used to be just a dev in-joke.

>>377967638
>defiantly

they aren't defying anything bruh they're just lookin at panties

>>377967638
>Gratuitous sexualization of panties expecally on underage looking women is defiantly a Japanese thing that is impossible for most of the non Japanese gaming market to understand.

No reason to feign piety here, anon.

>>377968995
Fight the power. Study to understand panties.

>>377967536
Sanji using a lollipop instead of a cigarette.

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and they ruined boogie nights

Censorship is dumb but sperging out over minor stuff is dumb too. Whining about things being in games while also whining about censorship is top tier autism though.

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They censored Ryuji's shoes in South Korea.

>>377969327
I like it, especially the handicapped elephant

>>377969539
If it's minor stuff then why do they need to censor it?

>>377968981
Earthbound had some really clever ones really, there is a reason the script is remembered to this day.

In the game upon defeating Master Barf in the Deep Darkness he will have a 100% chance to drop an interesting weapon. In the Japanese version the weapon is called the "Swing with all your might bat". However since that is obviously super long it was called the "Casey bat" as a reference to the poem "Casey as the Bat". This is brilliant since the weapon is immensely powerful but only has a 1/4 chance of hitting, perfectly referencing the poem.

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>>377967536
See
>>377965986

I really feel it made the character more interesting and memorable.

>>377960526
The one on the right looks weird and stupid. The one on the left is a proper wedding dress. Does Japan not know what wedding dresses look like? Do they even have marriage in Japan?

PM2 had the best game localization, Vivian aside. The JP script is dry as hell.

>>377964497
>Yet main FE games have never been censored to the level #FE was.
FE10 had an entire script cut from the game.

>>377957000
no, who the fuck censors anything besides moms? moms are stupid.

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>>377957000
Waste of good trips

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>>377970090
Most wedding dresses show some skin and don't look like white hijabs senpai. The wings are pretty dumb but other than that it looks like a regular wedding dress

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melee truly was the best smash bros

>>377972748
Isn't that Brawl, though?

>>377973067
Shh, don't tell him, just play along with his retardation.

>>377958563
They censor their games because they try to market to everybody since they are a videogame company that makes videogames, something Sony doesn't do which defined your jaded mindset and non educated understanding on business. If Sony made as much videogames as Nintendo they would be doing the same thing if not now with their small videogame division when they try to market to SJWs

>>377964497
Did you somehow miss everything regarding Fates? The entire script is a complete mess of botched translations, removed petting minigame, removed bikinis for both men and women, and so on. It's absolutely idiotic.