>he chooses luck

>>377956871
need more info

>>377956871
def kinds sums it up for me

>>377956871
>LUCK sneezes before he fires the gun
>it hits everyone else through the head and kills them
LUCK wins again

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>>377956871
>Luck
>BASED NAGITO

>MAX Luck
>win everything

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>>377956871
>chose wis
Life is suffering.

>not using LUCK BASED BUILDS
Fucking plebs

>he doesn't spec for CON

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>>377956871
Give me the def

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Are there even any pure luck builds that are viable in games?

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>>377956871
I might be retarded. I thought Wis was a guy with spiky hair bent over backwards like that episode of Futurama.

>>377956871
>Luck is literally the only true stat in life as everything is predetermined at the moment of the big bang
>he thinks that it's the lesser choice

classic uneducated

>>377956871
>Fires gun
>Bullet harmlessly passes through empty skull, kills all the others
LUCK MASTER RACE

>>377958369
FO3 and New Vegas.

>>377958369
Luck was pretty great in New Vegas.

>>377958383
I thought so too
you can see his nose

>>377958442
>what is free will

Depending on the game, Luck can be pretty useful. For example, Luck fucking destroys everything in Dark Souls 3
>Hollow weapons scale with luck
>Bleeding is more effective with luck
>Many enemies are very weak against the bleeding status effect
>You make everyone bleed out on the floor with one swing because you're lucky enough to hit a major artery and instantly win the fight

You know, having 'dick size' as a stat for a multiplayer RPG would be interesting.
It would have no tangible in-game benefit, but you'd have one big fuckin' dick.

>CON and DEF are both stats
stop playing shitty jrpgs

>>377958369
Dark Souls 3

>>377958442
Bazinga.

>>377958496
>>377958509
what does it do?

>>377958369
Having 10 luck pretty much made you a god in New Vegas.

Demon's Souls had a sword that required middle ground stats to use, but scaled entirely off of luck and could do crazy damage.

While not directly called luck FFXIV's entire DPS selection is hugely based off of consistently getting random crits.

>>377958551
>>377958519
bleed was nerfed to shit with AoA update

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>>377958531
Go play FATAL.

>>377958442
>believing everything is predetermined
>believing in luck

pick one you bait artiste'

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>game has a luck stat
>hover over it
>"Increases your luck"

>>377958369

Fallout 2 unarmed/jinxed with 10 luck was fantastic until you had Enclave troops to deal with

>>377958513
an illusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCofmZlC72g

>>377958592
Critical Hit rate mostly. Which generally correlated to whatever you were shooting at just randomly fucking exploding. There were also several speech options in New Vegas that just let you bypass entire areas because you have high luck. Most of which involve ice cream.

>>377958698
everything is predetermined therefore the amount of pleasure and suffering you'll receive thorough your conscience experience is purely based around the luck surrounding the circumstances of your conception

>>377958592
Gambling was tied to luck pretty strongly. And since it was an """RPG""" your effectiveness was about 80 percent based on gear. You could gamble to effectively infinite money and buy all the best shit about 1/3 of the way through the game, especially if you have all the gunrunner's arsenal dlc.

>>377958442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkfKWCV3TK4

>>377958686
I wonder how many RP groups with neckbeards that have played FATAL "ironically"

i'd rather be lucky than good

>>377958936
>>377958569

>can't provide a proper counter argument
>bazinga xD

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>>377958715
>hover over it
>"has no direct effect, but has a small influence on everything you do"

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>>377957636
>>377957920
>>377958241
>>377958442
>>377958469
*pulls slot machine out of my ass*

>>377958659
Really? Fuck.

>>377958592
Besides being necessary for a crit build in New Vegas you could use it to gamble and basically have infinite money. Then with a decent starting int + the augment (which you could buy early with all the caps) you'd be rolling in skill points maxing what you want out quickly. Add power armor to that and your low str score didn't really matter

>>377959103
>luck stat has a unicorn icon

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>>377958734
>determinism
>harrisfag
OH
BOY
WE
GOT
A
LIVE
ONE

Philosophers refer to top down causation and bottom up causation. Bottom up causation occurs when physical factors affect the mind – such as sleep deprivation, or alcohol and caffeine consumption. Top down causation is when the mind affects the brain and the rest of the body. This occurs, for instance, when people get emotionally upset by what someone has said, raising blood pressure and increasing respiration. Brain plasticity is an example of top down causation.

If mind were simply a product of brain function with the brain being a machine that produces consciousness, then it should not be possible for the mind’s wishes to turn around and affect what is producing it. Placebos and nocebos provide a striking example of this kind of top down causation.

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>>377959224
>luck stat has the 4chan symbol

>>377959371
>Henry K. Beecher accidentally discovered placebos in World War II. Having run out of morphine, he injected wounded soldiers with saline solution telling them it was morphine. This had exactly the same pain-killing affect that actual morphine does. It is now known that placebo painkillers work on exactly the same physical principles as ‘real’ painkillers. Both function by releasing dopamine into the brain. This means that the recipients of placebo painkillers do not just falsely think that the pain has been reduced when it has not. The pain really is reduced.

>Materialist scientists recognized the mind over matter implications of placebos and many of them steadfastly rejected their existence for many years. Unfortunately for them, the placebo effect is very real and stands up to experimental verification. It is repeatable and publicly observable. In fact, placebos are now a mandatory part of drug testing. It is sometimes mistakenly thought that giving someone a placebo is giving them ‘nothing’. However, as has just been seen, placebos result in real physical effects. Thus, a controlled drug experiment would have to include three parts – the drug to be tested, a placebo, and literally nothing.

Also DEX is easily the best stat, Flash written not to job is the most OP character in comics next to deities.

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>Not dumping all your points into 'Stache.

If anyone doubts the power of luck, they haven't played Mario Party or Mario Kart. Fuck your skill, luck solves everything

>>377956871
>int
>wis
Where's the difference?

>inb4 one is intelligence the other is experience
>inb4 one is max mana the other is mana reg
fuck off

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>>377959394
>4chan has the luck symbol

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>>377959838
Int is knowing what to do, Wis is knowing what to do with it.

>>377959838
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribute_(role-playing_games)

google is a thing

>>377956871
>Luck
>Literally become hopeman
Fuck yeah you turbo pleb

>>377958369
SMT IV

>>377959371
All of what you did with this post is to give a fancy name to the way the mind interact with the body emotionally, it is in no ways or form an counter argument against the idea of the free will nonexistence. Just because you can narrow down a phenomenon and gives it a name doesn't invalidade the nature of what cause this phenomenon.

>>377956871
>DEF and LUCK are stats
fallout fags stop thinking you know anything about the rpg genre

>>377959838
I always dislike it when magic has too many stats to level up to be good

>Level up intelligence to raise magic attack power
>Level up Wisdom to raise max MP
>Level up Dexterity to raise casting speed
>Naturally you need to level up core stats like HP and defence and stamina too

>>377960031
wikipedia isn't owned by google yet

>>377959838
one is intelligence and the other is worldly experience

>>377960228
>>Level up Dexterity to raise casting speed
The only game I know of that does this is Ragnarok Online.

>>377958369
High Luck build is op as fuck in New Vegas

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I AM BECOME DEATH

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>>377960248

>>377960367
Pretty sure DS1 or 2 had some bs stat that increased casting speed that you'd just have to know about.

>>377958369
Maplestory

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>max luck
>arrive at New Vegas strip
>30 minutes later

>>377960502
DS1.
Caps out at 45 DEX, at which point Great Combustion becomes almost instant.

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I was born one lucky fucker. Anything else wouldn't cut it.

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>>377958227

This desu

>>377958469
Underrated post

>>377959118
Usopp is a luck/int hybrid build

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>>377960771
>dex fags had END and DEX as the only things to level to become gods
is that why all ds1 fights were katana plate armor wearing dweebs.

>>377960502
DS1 also had pyromancy run off strength, not intelligence like you'd expect spells to do.

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>when you use alchemie to buff your LUCK to never before seen heights in Morrowind

>>377958532
What is dungeons and dragons? Constitution and armor class aren't the same thing.

>>377956871
Def and Luck don't belong on that list at all. Both of them are encompassed by a combination of the other attributes and one's equipment.

>>377960427
undermasturbated post

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HELLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo-oooooooOOOOOOOOOOO

>>377961130
>when you use alchemy or enchanting in morrowind at all

>>377959371
I was going to give a serious reply to this, but I honestly can't tell if it's ironic.
It's too meticulously crafted to anger anyone with half a brain.

the sad part is that I'm pretty sure there are some people that ACTUALLY think like this, just like there are flat-earthers and creationists. This is some mighty fine bait.


You could have just easily called sam harris a tool for trying to ditch religious thinking but then hesitating to throw away Buddhist reincarnation ideas because it's his favorite pet religion

>>377958975
Honestly, I'e always wanted to try one of those sex games. Is that one by Gideon any good? I'm sure I could get a group up on F-list for a one shot.

>>377961128
GIANTS
GIANTS
GIANTS

>>377959053
It was a joke because he said "Big Bang."

>>377959371
>then it should not be possible for the mind’s wishes to turn around and affect what is producing it
Except you're wrong, top-down neural processing is something that is widely studied and generally understood in neuroscience. The neural circuitry is even easily studied. My guess is that you've never ever studied science once in your life.

>>377956871
>pick luck
>gun jams

>>377960228
The point is to avoid having just a 'magic' build. For non magic users, you have to pick speed or strength or tank, for example, but archers and wizards always just have one build. "Dump this stat and raise this other one when you max it," isn't really interesting.

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>>377956871
Give me CON, I shall become meat mountain, destroyer of low class niggers.

>>377956871
>pick Charisma
>every other character becomes part of your harem and completely bend to your will

>>377956871
>dex
>no anime eyes

inaccurate

>>377961128
What?
That's just the pyromancy flame's melee damage when you bop someone with the heavy attack, fire spells were based entirely off how much you'd upgraded the flame.

>>377961019
Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring + Dusk Crown and 45 DEX made for some insane DPS with great cumblast. I made a pure pyromancer build and it wrecked everything in PvP aside from the few weirdos that used the black iron greatshield. But then From added Dark Pyromancy spells which deal physical damage and that guard-broke anyone in 2 casts so nevermind them.

>>377961715
>i am sure to win for my speed is superior
every time

>>377961804
for me it's more like if I can't win it doesn't matter because I can just run away and survive

>>377961636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhszZ53SEC8&ab_channel=BlankonBlank

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>>377961804
you'll never see it comin.

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>>377961804

>>377960114
pure luck isn't really good you need atleast 100 in dex or int to get something good

>Equip item that boosts crit chance by 50%
>Have been maxing luck and damage the whole game
>Crit 9/10 times and one shot almost everything

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>>377961179
>>377960165
More like DEF and WIS don't belong there since WIS is basically just INT for all intents and purposes.

Luck is a legitimate role-playing stat which makes sense to add.

Think about it this way, if you're making a Frank Drebin character, or a Shaggy Doo character, or a Gladstone Gander character, or a Longshot character, or a Groo the Wanderer character, which stat are you going to want to max if Luck exists?

And if you're playing a Donald Duck character, or a Charlie Brown character, or a Jon Arbuckle character, then you're going to use Luck as a dump stat, aren't you?

Luck is a good stat for an RPG to have, since a lot of fictional characters you may wish to roleplay as revolve around luck, and because it's just a fun stat to have.

>>377964064
>WIS don't belong there since WIS is basically just INT
stopped reading right there lol.
go play a single tabletop and stop getting your shitty rpg knowledge from bad videogames.

>>377964064
Don Quixote, he has INT, but no WIS. Contrast with Sancho who has no INT but at least a decent amount of WIS.

>>377964164
>bitches about video games on a video game board
There's no reason why WIS and INT need to be separate stats. Prove me wrong.

>>377964457
Functionally the same for the purposes of roleplay. Either the character is good at doing things, or they aren't.

>>377964064
Intelligence is knowing tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is knowing not to put tomato in a fruit salad.

Seriously though, you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, dude. Try playing a pen and paper RPG, maybe you'll learn something.

>>377958369
Going all into luck in HOMM V makes you pull some serious bullshit.

where the fuck is FTH

>>377960427
>MinMaxing.jpg

>>377964713
The FifTH element is unnecssary and hidden

i'm not even sure i believe in luck

>>377964614
Intelligence and Wisdom are both something you lack.
>try pen paper rpg hur dur
Plenty of pen and paper RPGs have only Int and no Wis. Like GURPS.
Get triggered more, autist. You just got BTFO.

>>377964713
Nerfed to hell in DS2, hasn't been good since

>>377964713
An interesting alternative to the INT vs WIS dilemma since WIS is usually reserved for characters that would have high FTH

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i fixed it

>>377958369
Morrowind

>"Luck shouldn't be a stat!"
How am I going to make my Forrest Gump build then? High luck is critical for such a character.

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>>377965040
>sick dude I got lightning spear so early!
>wow 4 charges!
>wow 200 damage!

>>377965093
Faith is accomplished by turning don your INT and WIS stat, you fucking idiot. Get rekt.

>>377964917
Isn't it love?

Where's the Will stat?

>>377958813
>everything is predetermined
what makes you think that?

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>>377965026
>btfo
>by random anon who has never played a game of D&D let alone looked at the core rule book

It must be grand being so ignorant.

>maximum defense
>maximum endurance

I fucking hate taking damage but I'm very patient.
Just leave me alone unless you want to spend thirty minutes on the other side of a greatshield.

>>377965145
Wisdom,

>>377965403
D&D did not invent those concepts, dipshit.

>>377965351
A sub stat that's affected by either WIS or INT depending on your class.

>>377959371
According to science, causality is an illusion. Each state of a situation contains all of the information to get to the next state. Consider that next time you see billiards being played.

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>>377965658
It standardized and made them widespread. Dipshit.

>>377956871
What would CON be?

>>377965485
>Starts spamming shield piercing attacks

>>377965808
Health, immunity to disease and poison.

>>377965768
D&D didn't standardize the fucking concept of wisdom, goddamn for someone who lacks the fucking stuff you sure do love trying to explain it.

Str+Cha faggots

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>>377957757
>the reversed roulette
>the conclusion of trial 5
>him being in DR2
Nagito has to be the first character ever that I have no idea whether I like or hate him

>>377965808
CON=END=STA

>>377956871
>Not knowing luck determines your genetics and the chain of events that happen in your life.

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>>377965972
In the setting of fucking role-playing games, you goddamn mongoloid. How fucking stupid are you that you thought I was referring to real life in a discussion about RPG's?

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>>377957757
Hell yeah, Nagito.

>>377966139
I was stupid enough to think to pass my time by arguing with some who clearly has autism. Screech into the night all you want, you'll never become WISe.

>>377965579
But Gump didn't get through all those situations with wisdom. He got there through pure luck.

>>377961153
But it isn't a 'stat'

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>>377958442
>everything is predetermined
*fluctuates your path*

>>377959371
>le sort yourself out man

everything that has ever, and will ever exist, already exists simultaneously. Einstien figured this shit out years ago and people are still too retarded to understand what he meant by "The distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO_Q_f1WgQI

>>377965728
According to science at the turn of the 19th century, they had everything figured out and the universe ran like clockwork. That view quickly changed, and can again.

does CHA stand for CHAD?

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Are there any other protags other than pic related who canonically have luck builds?

>>377966395
Well Einstein also said quantum physics are whack and he was full of shit

>>377966139
>>377965227
>>377965093
Yeah dumb assholes get BTFO.

>>377966478
Demoman from Team Fortress 2

>>377966526
except the theories pertaining to time being spacial have been proven countless times to be an accurate model of the universe

>>377966282
Listen Mr Self Important, Intelligence is an innate quality a person can have, Wisdom is not. Wisdom is gained only through experience. What you clearly think you have in wisdom, you clearly lack. You're also not very fucking intelligent, as it seems the simplest of concepts is beyond your ability to grasp.

>>377966675
What a ridiculous thing to say. Science is nowhere near totally figuring out the universe. Again, a hundred years ago they thought they had it all figured out (one guy even said "everything that will be discovered has been discovered")- and that turned out to be fucking wrong, didn't it? Drop the modernity bias. There's still plenty science has not reached a conclusion on yet, and may never do so.

>>377958369
Valdis Story has an acessory that boosts your stats based around your luck
If you pump out your luck, and wear luck boosting gear, you can get stats higher than any specialized builds in the game

>>377959838
Wis is used to determine stuff like local rumors and discerning intent. Int is used for knowledge of the arcane.

Int is booksmarts, Wis is anything but.

>>377966686
>autism
get BTFO faithfag.

>>377966826
All I'm saying is that atring theory is garbage because in that model time is unidirectional which makes no sense dimensionaly

>>377966915
You're bitching at the wrong anon, dipshit. I had nothing to do with the Faith offshoot in this thread.

>>377966986
Cry more autist.

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>Playing New Vegas again
>8 str, 8 con, 2 INT
>Unarmed and explosives only
>Kill everyone in goodsprings with a shovel
>Head to Powderganger prison and do the quest line
>Kill the traveling merchant, turns out to be a bounty hunter
>Report back to Eddy
>Dialog choice is, "I took care of that bunny hunter for you"

This gon' be fun

>>377966947
>makes no sense
Yes, and?

>>377966672
>black

yeah real lucky

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>>377956871

>>377964064
What you're describing as Luck would just be DM Fiat in a proper RPG. Luck is kind of pointless as a stat both mechanically and narratively since high Luck in practice just means Deus Ex Machina-ing your way through encounters through no effort of your character's own, according to /v/

>>377967107
>NV
>fun
lol

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>>377967123
>Black in 1968
>Employed in high-paying job with people who don't call him a nigger every 10 seconds
I would say EXTREMELY lucky.

>>377958785
>>377959194
Crit builds suck in New Vegas now since most of the guns they were good with got nerfed to shit thanks to Josh "No Fun Allowed" Sawyer's compulsive need to "balance" all the fun out of single player games.

STR+INT+AGI are really all a game needs. Your body, your mind, and your movement.

>>377967368
just because you don't like it doesn't make it a bad idea. balance means more build variety choices and challenge in the long run than mindlessly clearing through everything with crits

>>377959371
Point at this fucking DEF picker and laugh

>cha and dex
>make everyone do what you want
>if ever in an unfavorable scenario just fucking run away
>not roleplaying an "honest merchant"
holy moly there's some plebs in here

>>377967498
nah nah STR+INT+DEX
movement is a part of STR, it's not like you only work leg day

>>377958442

something something hypocrite something die like a dog

>>377967498
I would recon it also needs DEF and either RES or MDEF depending on the setting.

>>377956871

>choosing anything BUT luck

Luck is the most OP stat irl.

>>377960918
Based Akagi blowing the fuck out of every build

>Dex is skinny motherfucker
>Con is fat dude that will get a heart attack
unrealistic, shit game

>level up STR/INT
>also max out DEF/CON/DEF/CHA/WIS
wew

>>377967368
Doesn't that happen only if you use a sort of official mod?

>luckfags

>>377970534
No. For example in the vanilla game the Gobi campaign rifle used to have a 5x multiplier to your base crit chance, now it's only 2x. Even with all the perks and shit your base crit chance is only going to be around 20% at most so that's a massive nerf.

>luckfags are so casual they think casality manipulation will save them

>>377965227
I see, you maxed out your euphoria stat.

>>377959613
Mario gets all the Pow, Luigi gets all the Stache. that's how i build my Bros.

>>377973192
>max out luck
>99% chance to activate special
>still miss
LMFAO LUCKFAGS BTFO

>>377973837
>guaranteed chance to hit and crit
>deals only 1 damage per thousand of years
LUCKFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>377974794
>one chance at a good life
>fuck it up
WILL LUCKFAGS EVER RECOVER?

>>377956871
>His piece of shit game doesn't use S.P.E.C.I.A.L

>>377975081
>find an infinite supply of valuable resources
>due to the abundance of said valuable resources, their value instantly drops to zero
THIS KILLS THE LUCKFAG

>>377960026
Int is knowing the NCR are the good guys.

Wis is knowing the Legion are the heroes.

>>377975419
In what situation would you give other people access to your stash of said resource

>>377975732
exactly, their luck didnt save them

HOWS YOUR """LUCK""" WORKING OUT FOR YOU LUCKFAGS HAAAA

>>377975732
In a scenario in which you're a retarded quadruple amputee with paper skin but a LUCKfag

All into swimming

>>377958369
Demons souls. There's weapons which scale off of it.

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>>377958532
How does it feel to be a stupid poo face?

>>377959838
intelligence is knowing how a suspension bridge works
wisdom is knowing that you don't need to build a suspension bridge if you can just pay the boatman a few coins

intelligence is knowing how electricity and televisions work
wisdom is knowing that your life is probably better off without tv

intelligence is knowing that the best way to stop cthulhu is a steam powered boat to the face
wisdom is knowing the world will run out of steam powered boats eventually

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>he didn't chose the virtuous path

intelligence is separating intelligence and wisdom into two different stats
wisdom is knowing they're one and the same

>>377958442
>implying you have fourth dimensional perception
>implying human interaction and causality doesn't disrupt deterministic motion regardless of the chemical origin of human consciousness
bazinga indeed

>>377975651
Luck is getting shot and ending up as the ruler of New Vegas, with everyone fearing you.

>>377960031
>The Storyteller System used in games like Vampire: The Masquerade took this one step further, breaking the attributes down into three by three classifications. Power, Finesse, and Resistance, and Mental, Physical, and Social, leading to nine different combinations
Well gosh golly, that sounds neat as fuck, but how is it in practice?

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>>377958227
really makes you think

>>377977230
w e w l a d

>dude luck lmao
>born as a retarded quadruple amputee with no muscle or skin incapable of dying
woah...so this is the power of LUCKfags...damn

>>377978413
really does

>muh drop rate
Luckfags please leave.

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>>377956871
I don't know.

>>377958369
In Raidou 2 the entire game revolves around luck and investing in it is extremely worth it.

>>377981594
Could you tell me more about it? I have to option to pick it up soon.

>>377981361
>this is what luckfags actually believe

Best games for STR build min-maxing?

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>>377982751

>>377983342
>dude luck lmao
>critical miss
LUCKFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

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>>377983342
>off by 1

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>>377981361
>Charisma doesn't woo the bullet

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>>377960004
>anon has 4chan luck

>>377983686
>STR doesn't punch the bullet
>WIS doesn't get wise enough to move away long before LUCKfag attempts suicide

I like rolling luck because it's usually a stat that doesn't get upped by other means,

>dude luck lmao
>only increases accuracy, crit chance and loot chance
wew

>>377985518
>only increases accuracy, crit chance and loot chance

>Have max luck
>Kill a rat
>Loot legendary item that makes you a god.
Why would anyone pick anything else?

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>he doesnt put everything into STR and make the other party members buff your LUCK
Its like you dont even know how to kill gods

>>377987689
I still have yet to play the game (waiting on the next steam sale basically to decide what to get). So, how is it?

>>377963130
Saitama isnt a very fair example.
The man has no limiter on his STR, DEX, CON, and DEF
That fight is more like
>99 DEX vs
>n+1 STR, DEX, CON, DEF

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>>377988028
I hope you like X-COM because its RNG is just as bad if not worse.
Theyve come out with an '''easier''' mode that makes the endgame no where near as bad a grindfest as it used to be, but in everyway the game is 85% RNG mitigation and 15% base management.
Its more or less a dungeon crawler Lovecraft X-COM
Its narrator and atmosphere honestly make the game, its god-tier

>>377988474
we'll I've never played X-COM but I guess I understand your point about rng.

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What mode is this?

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>>377988084
n isnt a number you fucking retard
Learn basic math and then try again

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>>377956871
Wisdom

>>377988474
Last three panels here are gold.

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>>377960427
True gods.

>>377958369
I hear everyone jacking off about luck in NV but I never once felt like I was strong at all running pure luck builds.

>puts all points into luck

let's see that lucky 8

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>>377989714

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>>377961000
checked and confirmed

>>377964064
>make Jon Arbuckle character
>no pipe
???

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>>377989731
better keep training, anon

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CON reporting in

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>>377966478
>not the fastest, strongest, or most skilled of the SPARTAN-IIs
>just lucky and charismatic
4's chosen one bullshit isn't canon,
his story ends with 3

>>377990087
That picture creeps me out more than it should

>>377989046
what's going on in this image
can i jack off to it

>>377989898
>not maxing PIPE