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Where should the next Fallout game take place? Should it not

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Where should the next Fallout game take place?

Should it not take place anywhere at all? †

Pic related is a map of declassified nuclear targets in the the US
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If Obsidian: Seattle

If Bethesda: Philly or New York

Shame there was quite literally zero extra east coast lore added in Fallout 4. The Commonwealth was like a padlocked playpen. Absolutely no sense of a bigger world outside of the game map.
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>>377932439
Obsidian should do Fall Out: Mexico
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Somewhere in the South. Doesn't have to be New Orleans like all the fake rumors said, but that as well as Nashville, Atlanta, or Miami would all be cool to see. It's pretty much the only region of the U.S. not touched by canon or semi-canon installments.
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>>377932098
Australian Outback, duh
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One thing I'm really interested in is how language (the English language) would evolve 200 years spread thin amongst Vault dwellers and eventually tribes throughout America. Especially in times of scarcity and tribal hunter-gatherer communities. From a practical design perspective, it's really a minor detail and not that important.
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>>377932098
If its made by obsidian, near or in California
if its made by Bethesda , who gives a fuck
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>>377932098
London of course.
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If it has a voiced protagonist I'll kill myself.
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next one should be another spin off, fuck bethesda they can't do anything right.

Either Denver, somewhere in the heart land/fly over states, or the deep south. Enough with the coasts, we get it NCR and goody goody two shoes brotherhood. boring. I want to see new big factions like the legion or some neo-confederacy in the south.

>tfw if we ever get a neo-confederacy faction they will be made out to be generic "slavery is gud" bad guys like what was done to the legion
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>>377932098
>500 warhead scenario
>my city gets hit five or six times.
What the fuck.
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>>377933170
They deal with this in New Vegas. Vault Dwellers are obviously well educated, and in New California the Followers of the Apocalypse basically make it part of their mission to not only aid but also educate the Wastes. A few characters in New Vegas state that they owe their literacy/education to the Followers. IIRC even Caesar himself.

In the really isolated areas, like the national parks such as Zion and the Grand Canyon, the Tribes have developed their own languages. The Burned Man (Joshua Graham) was a translator before the Legion. If I recall correctly, the Sorrows in Honest Hearts are some mix of devolved english and Spanish. I may be wrong on that last bit though.
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>>377933469
Even Todd realized it was a major fuck-up so I don't think that'd be a concern.
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>>377932098
What are those places that get ultra fucked in the mid west?
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>>377933790
Nuclear launch sites/bunkers like Cheyenne Mountain.
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>>377932098
>Those massve blobs in Montana, North Dakota and Wyoming/Colorado
What the fuck is out there?
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>>377933790
Missile silos the government hides in the ass-end of nowhere, away from big populations.
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If Obsidian ever makes another great fucking Fallout game, Joshua Graham and Mr. House's voice actors should have some roles. Just naming a few great voices from FN:V if anybody wants to add to it.
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>>377933738
>the Sorrows in Honest Hearts are some mix of devolved english and Spanish
it is. the people the sorrows decedent from were mexicans immigrating north after the bombs fell
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South florida
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China would be really cool. I mean maybe make a fast travel system based around the wall and maybe have commie ghouls and a shit ton of non mutated pandas for irony.
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>>377932781
HardcOrleans would be dope.
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>>377933858
Missile silos. Can you not think critically?
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>>377933738
>tfw Graham curses Salt-Upon-Wounds to hell in his own language before shooting him

fuck that character was so cool.
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>>377932098
>they dont bother directly nuking Bismarck, capital of montana even with 2000 nukes to spare

lmao
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>>377933858

Thats where we store our nukes
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I live in Northern Kentucky find it kinda impressive that my little shitty hole in the wall town is worth targeting in even a 500 warhead scenario. I'd think they'd rather target Bowling Green or something.

Also holy shit why so many concentrated warheads in the middle of montana, north dakota and colorado/wyoming?
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>live by the largest Marines base in the world
>not a target

Feels....okay i think?
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>>377932098
mfw in new jersey
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>>377934274
>Also holy shit why so many concentrated warheads in the middle of montana, north dakota and colorado/wyoming?
taking out civs is nice and all
but if you can take out the other guys missiles before they get to you, then your civs don't die
which is better than killing their civs
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>>377932098
>See all the blank rural fucking nowhere locations untouched by nukes
>think they'd be a safe place to be
>suddenly remember the fact that they'll be downwind

Not sure what I'd prefer. Death in the blast or prolonged radiation poisoning and salting of the earth.
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>>377934370

Figured it was something like military bases but that makes more sense, yeah
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>>377932781
Atlanta would be an interesting choice. It's a very different city than the area surrounding it, which could carry into some interesting story opportunities.
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>>377932098
What the hell did Florida do to anyone to warrant being wiped out?
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>>377934274
>I live in Northern Kentucky find it kinda impressive that my little shitty hole in the wall town is worth targeting in even a 500 warhead scenario.
Where there any military bases during the cold war nearby? That might be it
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>>377934349
Try being next to D.C, first nuke target always
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>>377932098
>>377932439
>>377932714
Obsidian should do a New Vegas followup in the Los Angeles and surrounding area, maybe as far down as San Diego and Mexico.

It should have some futuristic Noir type missions, as a tribute to 1950's Film Noir
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Its already been hinted at that it takes place in New Orleans
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>>377934629
if you want Los Angeles literally play Fallout 1.
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>>377934274
Ohiobro and feel the same, guess you gotta fuck up the Great Lakes and ohio river so it flows down
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>>377932098
I'm curious to know if there's a similar map showing targets in the non-continuous US, you know Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, etc...
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>>377934525
>niggers
>over prideful hispanics
>white trash
>rich white trash
>anybody who visits on vacation

Literally everybody is shit down here. All makes and models. Something non floridians don't know.
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Assuming it's Obsidian because I don't want another Fallout if it's from Bethesda:

Either return to Fallout's tonal roots and take a more art-deco/wasteland-y approach in somewhere like Seattle.

Or further embrace the Western aspect and take us to West Texas with a collapsing Legion spilling into the state territory (Caesar having died either from assassination or brain tumour.)
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New York/ Miami/ Seattle
I hope
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>>377933790
>>377933842

Chinks really hate corn
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>>377932098
australia

you fight wildlife exclusively
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Anyone have a map like this for Europe?
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>>377934152
LOL NO!
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>>377934629
>Obsidian should do a New Vegas followup in the Los Angeles and surrounding area, maybe as far down as San Diego
>whole game about running around boring pristine NCR cities
no
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What about other countries?
The USSR ,some in Europe, China or Maybe Brasil
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>>377932439
New york is a literal flat glowing crater. I don't think anything is there anymore
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>>377935041
>boring pristine NCR cities
lmao NCR big cities must be full of corruption, murder, hookers, drugs, street gangs, mafia type organizations, political turmoil, and general bad shit
NCR is not paradise at all. it's the cancer of the old world mixed with the lawless brutal nature of the wasteland.
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>>377934490

This what is the best scenario if any?
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>>377935067
Fallout and America are synonymous. You take America out of Fallout and it might as well not be the same franchise.
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Somewhere near a national park where nature has reclaimed the area.

I'm so tired of dusty urban centers.
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>>377933730
>Live in New Jersey
>Get fucking annihilated in either scenario
It's not fair.
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>>377934985
>Chinks
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>>377935191
so go play GTA. i play Fallout for the post-apocalypse and rebuilding of society parts, not the "literally the same as today" parts.
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>>377935226
Literally New Vegas and its DLCs
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>>377935226
No!
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>>377933608
I'd fucking love Denver. Ever since I read the transcript for Dogtown I've always wanted to see someone do it in an official capacity
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>not a single bomb in Idaho

I guess China really likes potatoes.
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>>377935226
Fallout is based off of 50's pulp science atomic wastelands. There is no nature to reclaim back shit. The world is a desert.
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>>377932098
>tfw in boston
can't wait to become a mutated body-horror monster
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>>377935067
Those places don't have any good cultural references to 1950's nuclear age that would be even a little close to 1950's America.
It literally was a poor post-WW2 wasteland.

Robots and Alien sci fi only started to appear in European and Soviet popular culture in the 1960's. There was no obsession with "Atomic Age"

t. Eastern European who's also a local culture history major
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>>377935204
Move to Canada. Because you'll be above the U.S., all the radiation will fall down away from you.
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>>377935480
you know Boise is in Idaho, right? it's even the capital.
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>>377935443
It's Legion territory though.
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>>377933608
most primitive cultures had slaves at some point it shouldn't be a surprise that it would crop up when rebuilding society after the end of the world. And yeah modern day players will always recognize that slavery isn't a nice thing to do
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>>377933858
Also the Yellowstone Caldera. If ending all life on earth is your goal, set that shit off.
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>>377932098
>pierre, south dakota

what'd we ever do to you
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>>377935348
I don't think you understand what I was saying. I wasn't saying that's what I want to do in an NCR big city, I'm saying that is what is probably in an NCR big city. It's next to lawless shithole where a 100 caps will get any cop to look the other way on anything. No one cares about anything but themselves, no loyalty to anything.

NCR is "we're like america before the bombs fell". That's their whole gimmick, being the old world reborn. And they're just as shitty and worthless as the old world was. Destined to die in atomic hell fire.
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>>377935067
FALLOUT
IS
ABOUT
AMERICAN
EXCEPTIONALISM
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>>377933469
>>377933739
Yeah there was a quote from him a while ago where he mentioned the voiced MC in reference to some new things they tried not working so well. I doubt we'll see it again after how huge and multilayered the backlash was.
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>>377935480
I'm surprised the Idaho National Laboratory isn't a target. With all the nuclear material held there I figured it'd be a prime target.
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>>377935497

After 200+ years it's gonna happen. Look at Pripyat these days.

It makes sense in the recent games because they take place in major metro areas that already had gutted most of the area.
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In Hell. Along with Bethesda.
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>>377935067
Half Life 2 already did the post apocalyptic Eastern Europe
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>>377935585
That's the only problem with it. With the legion there, that means no raiders of any kind. No mutants. No crime really. Just peaceful towns making a living, with the occasional legion war battle traveling through just going to the next battle.
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>>377932098
Why those massive blobs in the central north ish? Its nothin but empty land isnt it
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>>377935585
Yeah but there's also NCR there technically. There aren't enough legion forces there and the NCR sent down prisoners on work release and shit. And then they have to deal with the gangs of feral dogs. It's just so cool
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>>377932439
Far Harbor added some Maine lore: Lobster country is infested with Liberty Prime-sized crustaceans that shrug off tactical nuclear devices and hate humanity with a boiling passion.
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>>377935850

Edgy.
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>>377935909
Missile Silos
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>>377935909
Nuclear storage depots, destroying them in a first strike means reduced retaliatory capacity.
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>>377935909
See
>>377934198
>>377934245
>>377934757
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>live in maryland
>somehow dont get hit

Ok
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>>377932098
Arizona

Survival/Hardcore mode could be really fucking brutal when you're dealing with upwards of 120F.

>But it's a dry heat

Go look up Heat Stroke and see how painful dying like that could be.
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I can't believe no one's talking about those huge blobs in the middle of nowhere I mean come on people
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>>377934274

>get a single nuke in 500 scenario
>in 2000 they drop two more just to be sure

I guess they really hate this place too.
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>>377936224

It's time to stop now.
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>>377936107

Whoops last one was supposed to be>>377935694
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>>377932098
Outside Chicago up to Green Bay.
I just want an open world WI game.
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>>377936224
Yeah, I sure wonder what important military installations could possibly be installed in a mountain near Cheyenne.
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wtf why would you wastes nukes on nowheresvile like montana? are commies really that dumb? lol
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>>377936469
Oh is that what the are I had no idea thanks
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>>377935909
nuclear silos
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>>377932098
I'm from South East Michigan, so I'd love to see Obsidian tackle Detroit. Otherwise I don't give a fuck where Bethesda does it.
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>>377936440
For what purpose

Outside of Milwaukee and the southwest part of the state its fucking nothing
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>>377936478
>being this retarded
Yes, nukes appear out of thin air, it's not like they have to be stored somewhere
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>>377932098
detroit
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>>377936641
Considering how this is a divergent timeline, Detroit might have avoided the great auto company pullout by the time the nukes dropped.
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>>377932439
fpbp
>>377932781
the south would also be cool but only if Obsidian got a hold of it first, otherwise well have a 3rd hamfisted racism metaphor to look forward to

If I had to pick something else for Bethesda I'd want their shiny new engine to take on Hawaii or Colorado.
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>>377936762
If anything the resource wars leading up to fallout would have made detroit even fucking worse
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>>377936762
since car manufacturers couldn't move their factories to china or anywhere else since AMERICAN MADE probably meant a lot to americans in that world, Detroit was probably booming. All those nuclear cars being built there, then it gets nuked, what a cluster fuck.
Would love to see it, probably a big glowing crater like a mini version of china/new york.
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>>377934525
>military bases
>high population centers
we have a lot of military installments down here, you know
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>>377932098
>Get fucked in 500 and 2k scenario
t-thanks vandenberg
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>>377936440
>Can only see your feet in third person

Yeah the midwest is perfect for a Bethesda game.
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>>377932098
>tfw VA

D.C. is gonna get fucking wiped.
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>>377936224
>literally blind
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>>377937112
why aren't those dicks
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>tfw no fallout in florida
>no robot-filled disneyland expy
>no talking mutant alligators that were alluded to in tactics
>no everglades exploran
>no mutated african/zoo animals that escaped from all of the wildlife preserves/tourist trap zoos
>no cozy southern faction
c'mon bethesda, let obsidian do it
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>>377936762
>The engine actually gets updated to support vehicles
>Take advantage of Detroit's automotive industry
>Motown music on the radio
I think I'd really like this style for a Fallout game. Obsidian did a great job with the cowboy gimmick, I think they could pull off a bluessy gimmick pretty well.
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>>377936440
Wisconsin is already an apocalyptic hellhole. I'd hate to see what nuclear war would do to it.
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>>377936936
The resource wars were for oil. If Detroit managed to keep up with changing nuclear generator technology, they'd still be in the bank.

Just imagine all those irradiated black people. Hell, there'd probably be Ghouls in Detroit even before it got nuked.
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>>377936478
Please read the thread before posting.
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>>377937314
I'm only legally blind
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>>377937336
>Disney World knockoff DLC where you find the disembodied head of an ex-cartoonist megalomaniac
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'Ronto. It's established as a serious location by Ashur in the Pitt. Likely referring to Toronto, I'm down to see some nuclear canadian winter.
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>>377932098
Haha bunch of dumb stupid idiots just nuking the middle of nowhere lmao
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>>377937332
>Implying midwesterners can see their dicks in first person
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>>377937589
I'll always love Fallout's timeline of America finally fucking up Canada and annexing their resources.
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>>377937578
yes, exactly
now you're thinking
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>>377932098
In the world of imagination and non-existence.
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>>377937650
you know what I'm talking about
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>dropping a nuke on Monroe, Louisiana
ffs guys there isn't anything out here to nuke!
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>>377937724
Yeah it's pretty rad :~)
Could be expanded in an interesting way too in the future.
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What goes on in the mega BLACKED areas?
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>>377938001
Nuke storage
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Fallout 5 will be in miami with our cool new tropical mirelurks. Explore the vast beaches and help Tony montana, a cuban, rebuild settlements. We also brought back fan favorite enclave and brotherhood of steel fighting each other as you search for your long lost grandmother and grandfather from puerto rico.
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>>377937336
Add New Orleans and Atlanta for shits and giggles and you got yourself a fucking widely varied overwolrd.

>Florida with Muh Swamp and destroyed Disneyland to explore, find the cult revereing the last working animatronic of Donald Duck
>Atlanta with Muh rednecks and a bunch of them trying to bring the confereration back, constantly raid the cajuns down south for Muh Slavery
>St Louis/New Orleans with a bunch of nuke black magic mumbo-jumbo and looking like a warzone due to all the mutated sealife constantly attacking the city.
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>>377935348
I love that ending slide. So much in fact that I wish there was a Fallout game that included civilized Arroyo as part of it's world map.
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Montana

the bad guys should be retarded christian DRUMPF supporters that believe in a flying spaghetti monsters
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>>377932098
It shouldn't matter

In Fallout 1 and 2, when it truly had the apoc-punk, wasteland look, it focused on creating its own look and lore for the setting where buildings, clothing and other things were not of our timeline. It wouldn't matter if it were California or Texas, it is the same techno-punk, mohawks, mutants and other things

FO4 went the other way and made it absurdly turbo-boston, it looked nothing like the black art deco buildings of Fo1/2, it looked like IRL Boston kinda and too well intact
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>>377938853
that's farcry5, you can murder whites to your bigoted heart's content
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>>377938853
>>377939241
fuck off already /pol/, you're a cancer on 4chan
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>>377937336
>no mutated sawgrass
>no rad gators
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>>377937589
DAMN... that nigga got cake...
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>>377939429
fuck DRUMPF and fuck WHITE PEOPLE
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>>377939460
the alligators mutated to speak and shit, man
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>>377932098
England plz, am tired of murica
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>>377939557
unironically this
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>>377939645
England is underwater you dweeb.
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You're welcome
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I was trying to make a merge of Millenia's guns that isn't in the guns of the new millenia pack but I have no fucking clue how to actually do it properly, I tried it recently and when I went into the game all I had was giant ! errors.
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>>377934523
>playing some sort of King of the Hill campaign on Stone Mountain
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>>377940206
did you try turning it off and back on again
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>>377940368
I wish it was that simple.
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>>377940206
Get the esp merger
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>>377940783
What the xEdit script? I did use that, I must've just fucked something up.
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>>377941007
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69905/?
I use this personally
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>those blobs in the north
literally why?
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>>377941351
i think that where the US stores their nukes
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I know it's trendy to hate on zombies but State of Decay 2 and Project Zomboid are more promising than whatever Bethesda will cook up.
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I want fallout great lakes region, in winter
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>>377939989
The way to survive an atom bomb is to not live in a metropolis, and to have a long duration food and water source.
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recently built first new gaming pc. Immediately buy Fo4. I cant get into this fucking game the dialogue is HORSE SHIT. KARMA? What fucking karma.

Im not a huge elder scrolls fan but i swear it better not be call of duty with sword and magic
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Why do they hate Denver so much
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>>377941839
I guess they think Denver has gone to the dogs
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>>377941839
Ehh if i remember the legion conquered Denver. Id like something new away from ncr and the rest.
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I can't wait for TESVIs plot twist to be that magic comes from a genetic experiment and that it takes place on earth thousands of years after Fallout.
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>>377941839
Because of that fucked up airport.
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>>377942242
That would be hella fucking epic.
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Hawaiian islands
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>>377941839
They target Denver due to Cheyenne mountain, specifically NORAD and there are a large amount of AF/Army troops stationed there.
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>>377932098
anywhere in the midwest

>we barely get noticed around here
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>>377939009
exactly. not a lot of people seem to understand this very well.
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>>377942589
Far Cry
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>>377932439
You all are some seriously stupid motherfuckers if you think Bethesda will ever let Obsidian near Fallout again. Obsidian is a joke.
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I wouldn't mind a Fallout set in London.

I like to imagine they reinstated an Absolute Monarchy after the chaos of the wars, and it was run by a dynasty of ghouls that were always in political power struggles with each other.
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>>377942404
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>>377943221
fallout will never take place outside the US britshit
london would also be fucking lame
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>>377941114
Would you happen to know why the same type of armor is sold at different prices? One of my mark 2 combat armors is valued at 8k and the other at 2,5k and they're both fully repaired
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>>377943470
Wouldn't Hawaii have been wiped out due to rising sea levels or volcanoes blowing up the islands after the nukes fell
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>>377932439
New York was completely flattened but since you said Bethesda I'm sure they'll just retconn like they've done before.
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>>377941839
fuck the Broncos
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>Anchorage a large sprawled out city
>lots of wilderness nearby
>fighting Chinese
>smaller towns like Wasilla and Palmer
>ski resort
>airbases
>timelapse opportunity for summer and no night and winter with 5 hours of low hanging sunlight
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>>377942997
it's actually because bethesda is a joke, but you are correct.
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>>377938446
>New Orleans
Wasn't that the main rumor a while back? I don't think we'll get it now, kind of a shame.
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>>377943748
Waterworld
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>>377943867
>fighting chinese
peace was declared after the bombs fell bro, there's no more bad blood except among weirdo prewar ghouls.
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>>377944028
Sure but you could have a Brotherhood/China cold war type situation where one is just waiting for a reason to fight the other.

Also there's probably Chinese raiders and shit
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>>377937578
>tfw you also have gangs ravaging the park

American Dad did it
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>>377943221
Cool idea anon
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At least you Americans stand a chance, Britain is a small island and we'd be fucked
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>>377944506
fallout lore states everyone in europe was at war with eachother before the bombs even dropped

wasnt the cancelled fallout vidya meant to be based in bongland or something?
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>>377943470
Fallout: sun and moon
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>>377944339
no brotherhood in alaska, read your lore.

Of course having ethnically chinese groups would make sense, but I think still having a conflict between chinese and american analogues would be another example of bethesda basically ignoring that fact that two centuries have passed since the bombs fell and wanting the games to be like Left Behind of The Omega Man.
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>>377943221
Fallout in any other country other than the US wouldn't make any sense, The core of the game is based on classic Americana
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>>377944339
DUMB! NO!
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>>377944652
Now this guy's a genius!
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>>377944625

Every video game I play takes place in bongland
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>>377934341
It's nuclear war, dipshit. You take out the population centres, the nuclear stockpiles and anything capable of retaliating

A bunch of fags with guns don't mean shit when the missiles are launched
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>>377935067
>some in Europe
Doesn't exist, glassed itself after European Commonwealth imploded.
>USSR
Merged with China
>China
Literally glass, bethesda will release modkit alone "build your own fallout (^:"
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>>377934349
>>377934591
At least you'll die instantly and won't have to deal with radiation poisoning and the collapse of society.
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>>377944691
I think a game set in mexico, or at least partly would work, my assumption is that mexico in the fallout universe is basically filled with shoddy poseidon energy plants with waaaaaaay more lax regulations (and also greater output) that sent energy to the united states in exchange for kickbacks for the people in power, basically how our production system works now but with energy instead of cheap clothes. And of course Canada is technically part of the US in the fallout universe.
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>>377944931
probably everyone in all other countries would assume that the US is "completely glassed" too. Maybe something interesting can come from these newly formed protogovernments finding eachother where they expected to find open land to colonize or at least scavenge.
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>>377944625
The only cancelled fallout vidyas I know are Van Buren which was going to be in Arizona if I recall, Tactics 2 which would've been in Florida after an irradiated GECK turns the state into a swampy hellhole (not that it isn't one already), and Brotherhood of Steel 2, which would've stuck to Texas, like the first one.
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>>377943892
Obsidian hasn't made a good game since New Vegas. They're incapable of good writing now. The best they've done is fuckin' South Park.
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>>377945284

How many of the people who worked on New Vegas are even still at Obsidian?
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>>377935067
>USSR
S.T.A.L.K.E.R and Metro
>China
>Latin America
What about those countries?
and what about Eunope
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Takes place in the rocky, snowy mountains of colorado, but also in the warm parts so they can reuse the map from skyrim
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>>377932098
Literally anywhere in the Midwest. I'm a Chicagofag myself, but I would take anything
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>>377945415
>and what about Eunope
Imploded from multiculturalism. European Commonwealth dissolved into weak as fuck nations and self destructed.
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>>377945528
I feel like chicago is the most likely bet for 5 honestly, I remember hearing about some fuckery with the BoS trying to establish a sovereign state in the midwest, so that could be something.
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>Fallout Japan
>Way of the Samurai/Yakuza Ishin style gameplay
>Society devolved into samurai government similar to how society devolved into the old west in the southwest.
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>>377945512
stop encouraging and enabling bethesda to reuse assets.
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>>377944506
God that was a miserable film to watch especially because it could happen
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>>377945728
Fuck the BoS. I want all new factions
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>>377933170
Children learn languages from their parents. Having a language and being able to read don't go hand in hand
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>>377945224
Wasn't Van Buren supposed to have a scene that travels to the UK? I remember reading something about that.

Nevertheless, Joshua Sawyer, the guy who basically made F:NV wants to make a Fallout game based in the UK during the resource wars, about British troops. I'd like to hear his ideas on how it'd be like.
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>>377945825
>nuclear bombs are time machines instantly resetting the culture in any area to its most stereotypically recognizable historical state.
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Fallout: Flagstaff

Legion lost New Vegas. Caesar and Lanius are dead. Who won isn't important.
Caesar had an heir back home he was going to properly mentor when he had conquered NCR, who has to rise and take control of Arizona and the Legion to stop it falling apart.
The remains of the Legion are split between following him and a highly influential Centurion who has set himself up as the new Legate and wants to rule alone.
Tribes from down south over in Mexico, who thought the Legion would steamroll them like it did everyone in Arizona before it went off to fight NCR, unite under a common banner of dismantling the Legion completely before it looks to conquer them and replenish its numbers

Twist endings: Caesar's heir becomes progressively more brutal in his attempts to exert control, Legate Newguy sees the value in not blindly following Lanius' butchery, the Nu-Triple Alliance either falls apart when it wins or becomes a Neo-Legion under the player character's rule, "Independent" is literally just "kill all the leaders" and hasn't got a Yes-Man to push it along, you just do it if you want to.
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>>377946014
>it's ok when obsidian does it
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>>377944625
I assume you mean http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_Resource_Wars
But it wasn't canceled, they didn't even start working on it.
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>>377945825
Is she asking him where are the toilets?
Fallout Japan: those stimpacks are really big, wondering how it works *voiced yamete*
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>>377946216
oh yeah I remember that time that julius caesar conquered the midwest, it was a tumultuous time for the fledgling United States. thankfully our army of cowboys defeated them.
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>>377943470
Hawaii got huge in 50s culture, so it would be appropriate
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>>377946592
oh god but can you imagine how fucking hard bethesda would lean into the elvis and surfing culture references? And it would also be a great chance for them to twist the knife by retconning The Kings.

I would predict a roughly 100% chance of encountering a ghoul elvis.
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>>377943470
>can quite literally be possible due to the sheer size of Hawaii and capability of the map

oh god I want this so hard
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>>377945869
yeah well that's just not gonna happen pal.
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>>377946740
You know Elvis didn't show up in New Vegas because of how goddamn much it costs to use his name, likeness or music right?

Not even Bethesda is that petty
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>>377932098
Entirely within a single vault
Have a Fallout game with a vault that was never able to be opened up and unlike 13 and 101 which did anyway because plot, this one stays shut.
The vaults are supposed to be huge but most of the games only ever show a very small part of them, with this game you could really show it in all it's glory.
With a limited number of people that can be in the vault it allows you to flesh out the npcs a lot more and also makes killing them have much bigger impact, morality could be more than just good and bad but be a question of practicality if you kill the doctor in the vault you may lose access to medical help this also makes the medical skill more worthwhile.
You could still have the wasteland exist but only interacted through radio and the occasional wanderer that comes close who you can talk to through intercom this allows you flexibility so you could set the story at any point in the series timeline.
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>>377946926
so they'll call him "the king" again. If you think that a bethesda fallout game set in hawaii wouldn't got for the broadest most easily recognizable images associated with the region then you need your head checked. Expect tiki torches and firebreather enemies. There will be a military base in graceland ("faithland" probably) and pearl harbor will be, as the image posted earlier predicted, the game's primary settlement.

these people have no creativity.
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fallout but its an open world survival game multiplayer sandbox with zombies (feral ghouls have been renamed zombies to avoid confusion)
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Fallout is dead
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>>377946996
Now that is an interesting direction
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>Hawaii
They'd kill themselves when the Spam ran out
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>>377945728
I don't think Betheda considers the Midwest BoS canon, and if they did they'd ruin them like they ruin everything else.
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>>377946116
Having a Legion civil war would be cool but seeing the map it would be also great to have the Legion be at war with the Midwestern BoS with some other new faction tossed in. Then you make a choice to side with either of those three but you may also pressure your faction to ally one of the enemy factions so you can wipe out the remaining one easier and then deal with the other later
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>>377946996
Yes, and for infinite quests we could travel from vault to vault with teleportation, now it's canon.
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>>377946996
Any gamedesigner will tell you that won't be a good idea for the gme you are creating.
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>>377932098
fallout belongs in the west.
all of the real fallouts are in the west.
i'd like to see phoenix, new mexico, or texas
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>>377947826
I guess but I was thinking more about just fleshing out one single big vault
>>377947898
why is that?
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>>377947697
The Midwestern BoS is in a precarious place in canon and only gets to exist for as long as Bethesda doesn't outright say "Tactics never happened". So they'd probably object to anything concrete like an entire faction shitting all over that
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>>377936440
>open world WI game
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>>377946996
>this also makes the medical skill more worthwhile.
God this if nothing else the next game needs to bring back skills fuck bethesda
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>>377947898
>Any gamedesigner will tell you
Now this kind of cancer should return to reddit.
Thanks.
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>>377932098
>†
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>>377948138
They mentioned midwest BOS in 4 and in 3 they had sentient deathclaws
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>>377948138
>implying they wouldn't milk it because Bethesda has a raging boner for BoS
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>>377946996
that game already exists.
its called fallout shelter
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>>377946996
I feel like the environment would get really stale after a while.
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>>377948358
Yeah but nothing's happened out there. They can say whatever they want about it until something is actually set in the area. Then they'll be flooded with "but <game> said X, Y an Z is canon you can't change that!" complaints the moment they say something to the contrary
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>>377948396
Yes but I meant an rpg game not a casual mobile cookie clicker game.
>>377948440
The same could be said for any setting in the fallout series, I imagine if thousands of people were living in a vault for centuries it wouldn't look nearly as bland as vaults are usually shown.
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>>377932098
Austin

Maybe 2 nukes will make them stop being Liberals
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>>377947651
they're acknowledged by scribe jameson in fallout 3.
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>>377932098

New Mexico.
>Legion expansion into Mexico.
>Mad Max Mexicans vs Legion
>Native American tribal holdouts.
>Mutant Green-chili
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>>377948109
>>377948291
It sound's interesting at the start and probably is, but it'll never happen and if it does it would be lambasted as a walking simulator, simply because the external threats to a sealed Vault would be extremely limited and on top of that the nature of the game would support peacefully resolving internal conflicts simply because if the vault experiences a massive depopulation the vault dwellers would be forced to open the vault to the wasteland out of necessity. It would be derided simply for lacking in combat options despite the massive increase to dialogue options.
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>>377947651
The Commonwealth BoS are basically the Midwest BoS, complete with a "GAS THE GHOULS MUTIE WAR NOW" Maxson wannabe.
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>>377947651
What's the Midwestern BoS philosophy? Is it similar to FO3 BoS or WC BoS?
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>>377949512
>simply because the external threats to a sealed Vault would be extremely limited
>external
Maybe but look at vault 13 they were threatened twice by outside forces.
regardless the point would be the internal threats like the potential breakdown of society within a vault especially if they only just found out they are never getting out.
>a sealed Vault would be extremely limited
The vaults had to be large enough to house 1000 people potentially indefinitely, they would be about the size of a small city this means they could be very large think a game map the size of maybe morrowind but far more dense in terms of content with 1000 npcs each with more detail and plot significance as the average main character in other games. Enemies would be combinations of humans, robots and creatures that had managed to get into the vault.
> because if the vault experiences a massive depopulation the vault dwellers would be forced to open the vault to the wasteland out of necessity
I was thinking maybe leaving isn't a matter of wont but rather actually can't, like the door doesn't work or something.
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>>377949984
The White Knight BoS from 3 is basically a shitty ripoff of the Midwestern BoS

The BoS in California kicked out all its liberals who thought they should do stupid things like "help wastelanders" by sending them on some mission to track down the Master's fleeing army. They crash out in the Midwest and decide, fuck it, they're going to start helping people by ruling them with an iron fist. They became so large and powerful because they accepted outsiders, set themselves up a feudal lords and tried to run a nation instead of hiding in bunkers jerking off over plasma rifles.
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>>377949984
It seems they closer to FO3 brotherhood but they don't only take human wastelanders into their ranks but anyone and anything including super mutants and deathclaws
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RONTO WHEN
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>>377932098
Colorado. Colorado is screaming for the next Obsidian developed Fallout.
>dogtown
>New Plauge infestation
>Boulder Dome
>muh mountains
>muh abandoned mines
>muh underground mines turned into Vaults
>continuation of New Vegas Western feel
>throw in some new-age pioneers competing against the legion with the BoS securing the Boulder Dome
>throw in a survivalist, pot-growing, gun enthusiast Libertarian follower
It would be perfect
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>>377949897
>complete with a "GAS THE GHOULS MUTIE WAR NOW" Maxson wannabe.
That's the opposite of the Midwest BoS though, since they welcome mutants, ghouls and others into their faction.
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>>377950413
So they're almost guaranteed to not get along with FO4 BoS then? How about MWBoS VS ECBoS in Detroit as a game setting for Fallout?
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>>377944790
>Sarcasm or actually serious?
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New Canaan
The Preacher
Pop caps in tribals in the name of the Lord
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>>377950954
>he doesn't remember Simon "if it's green, make it screm" Barnaky
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>>377949512
>but it'll never happen and if it does it would be lambasted as a walking simulator
How do you explain previous game being lambasted walking simulator then, Einstein.
>>
Swamp Land Apocalypse with Gator Mutants is all I want in this world. New Orleans or Miami.
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>>377951398
Wasn't he only like that after he was kidnapped? Honestly it's been forever since I played Tactics so I could be completely wrong.
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>>377951661
He was upset any time you brought a new breed of mutie scum into the fold, but had to bite his tongue because there weren't nearly enough humans to recruit.
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>>377934985
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>>377951772
Well shucks, can't say I remember that. I'll have to play it again soon.
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>>377952026
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>>377952491
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>>377935226
This is what I have always wanted, cut it out with the wasteland shit and give us a city-turned-overgrown-jungle of wierd-ass irradiated plants. 200 years after the nukes went off, if any life survived the fallout at all it will have fully adapted by then.

Preferably another spinoff obsidian title since you fanboys seem to cling so desparately to the hamfisted 1950s retrofuturism the main series had going on
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>>377952491
>all that wasted space in north Africa
No wonder they're starving
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>>377952690
North Africa is mostly desert outside of the coasts, anon
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>>377952690
What? You mean the desert? Of course there's nothing there. And remember that this map only shows corn. There could be other crops, grazing, etc.
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>>377952924
Sounds like quitter talk to me
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>>377953057
Well they are making an attempt, now that you mention it.
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>>377935759
>>377933739
He mentioned the dialogue system, not the voice specifically. He could've just been talking about the wheel.
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>>377932098
just so everyone knows this map is fake as fuck mutually assured destruction is long gone replaced by the idea of nuclear utilization target selection you only target your enemies weapons/command and control centers
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>>377952924
No shit. But they could be getting a higher yield out of the subsahara.
We should stop adsorbing refugees and instead send them down more farm equipment.
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>>377954732
>OP claims the map is declassified government data
>declassification takes 50 years
>which would make it Cold War era
>when MAD was still the big thing

You're an idiot
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>>377934674
FAKE RUMORS GENIUS
>>
Holy fuck, Tampa would be blown to pieces and there's no chance of survival for me what so ever...
neat

I think a Fallout game taking place in Alaska (I'm aware of the DLC) would be an interesting setting where multiple nations are trying to seize control because it's not obliterated to shit. It would be more oriented to something like Metro 2033, but you could also introduce all kinds of weird shit and have hell zones in Alaska.
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>>377932098
Wyoming. You fight against a cult whose goal is to trigger the Yellowstone Volcano, under the assumption that it will destroy all life on Earth as it destroys our atmosphere. They are a religious cult that believes that humanity was punished in the Great War and that they are tasked with ending all remaining life on Earth.
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>>377956461
Does the game end with them successfully nuking it and nothing bad happening
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>>377934523
Who the fuck cares. BETHESDA FUCKING SUCKS AND CAN'T MAKE A GOOD GAME TO SAVE THEIR LIVES. Fuck them, and fuck you for making this thread.

Anybody who still likes Fallout is reddit cancer
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>>377957321
meant for OP
>>
Wyoming following the khans
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>>377957059
dunno, but you can choose to join them mid-game in a branching path
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>>377957592
It would just be the Legion with drugs instead of crucifixion and nothing interesting to look at because it's Wyoming
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>>377932098
>declassified nuclear targets
>literally nothing in nukevada
lmao
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>>377958605
I forgot Vegas and Area 2 were part of Arizona
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>>377958512
Then the devs can make it interesting it's a blank canvas. And with the followers beside them I doubt the khans would get too crazy. Unless the player wants them to since fallout is an RPG
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>>377958948
The last time the Khans "connected" with the Followers they were taught how to make medical supplies and then turned into drug dealers, forcing the Followers to leave out of disgust

Teaching a century old raider culture how to run a society isn't going to stop them from being assholes
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>>377959235
I'm going based on the khans leaving the Mojave ending in NV which states that with the help of the followers they carve an Empire in wyoming with the help of the followers
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>>377934629
I would love to see a post-post-post apocalyptic NCR, social unrest and collapsing economics
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>>377959670
So am I. It says nothing of the sort. It says they "reconnect" with the Followers and get taught some things and then make an empire.

Nothing says or implies the Followers stick with them and, like I just said, their past interactions with the Followers and their gifts of knowledge show exactly why the Khans keep getting the shit kicked out of them. Because they're raider scum, always have been and always will be.
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