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What would your ideal HnK vidya be? I pray every day for a revision to the Arcsys FG with new characters and some balance changes
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>>377920475
God Fist with gore turned up to 11.
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>>377920715
>God Fist

I'm not going to let you hide that by deleting, you poser
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>>377920836
I have no intention to delet.
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>>377921057

Also, God Hand didn't feel a lot like HnK other than borrowing from it stylistically

You always felt in danger, and even shitter enemies posed a threat if you were caught off guard. Definitely not the Kenshiro experience
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>>377921205
The true kenshiro experience would be boring.
Not everything translates well into vidya...
If you play Ken you need to be OP if you have the skill for it but that doesn't mean everything has to be handed to you just to compliment the source material.
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>>377921593

You're assuming here that you'd be facing only a couple of guys every time, a la God Hand.

Hokuto Musou had large groups of mooks, and it didn't feel wrong that they could give you some trouble if they were 20 or 30

And the real challenge was another practicioner of Nanto Seiken/Hokuto Shinken at the end, just like in the series (where like only 6 people on the entire world can realistically be a threat to Kenshiro)
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>>377921932
So you want it rather to be Senran Kagura/Warriors style?
I think that wouldn't really fit the mood of hnk.
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>>377922170

I don't think the series, despite being so old, ever had a truly AAA game. Hence the thread. My favorite is the Arcsys FG, but that game was made on an obvious budget and it's getting harder and harder to play (both Atomiswave and PS2 emulation ran it with errors last I checked)

The first Hokuto Musou is a good starting point, and it's somewhat different from other Musou games. Hokuto Musou 2 is so generic, HnK is basically a flavor, I wouldn't want something like that again
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>8 posts
>2 unique IPs

SAD!
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>>377921593
>true kenshiro experience would be boring
I don't know, DMC3/4 exist, and CUHRAYZEEfags are always dickriding those games, even if the only resemblance of challenge is purely from a technical standpoint of doing combos. Enemies are fucking braindead fodder.
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>>377922623
Fuck you Akagi.
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>>377922623

>amoralfaggotry shilling
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>>377922712
>the only resemblance of challenge is purely from a technical standpoint of doing combos.

After a few clears, maybe. A first run in a DMC game will have you struggling just to survive. Nobody's going to play DMC3 and be fancy on a first playthrough
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>>377922623
You're a hypocrite Akagi considering you're a literal mary sue while Kenshiro is the polar opposite considering the countless times he gets rekt and his life being literally nothing but misery of everyone he caring about dying around him.
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>>377922414
I would love a aa/aaa hnk game.
But i really don't liked the mass combat in musou, in hnk every fight, even those against minor enemies gets milked for dramatic effect.
A good hnk game needs to not push 100 of enemies at you all the time, but to give you actually good fights,
Sure there can be a mass combat segment, like one of those mad max style raider groups, but doing it for the whole game.... nah.
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>>377922850
Children tend to enjoy moral centric protagonists. It appeals to the moral policeman freshly instilled in their young brain. Older audiences tend to enjoy characters who are reflective of real people, characters who are morally ambiguous or at the very least are logically fleshed out.

Adults who cling to black and white heroes are essentially overgrown children. It is likely they own every silly piece of plastic Nintendo has spawned and think the Nintendo Switch is an innovation.
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>>377923379
The first Hokuto Musou is literally HnK simulator.
You don't mow down hundreds of enemies at once.
It's a fucking beat'em up game.

It's the SECOND game that fucked everything up and threw away everything good and unique about the first game into the trash.

>>377923479
Get cancer and die you literal autismal shitstain, also see >>377923284
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>>377923284
>the countless times he gets rekt
>countless

Fingered by Shin at the very beginning

Knocked out by Souther on their first fight before he knew of his secret

Took a lot of damage to beat Raoh I guess

That's it. All other times he "lost" he was just letting himself be captured to save others
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>>377920475
Ironically I think the best hokuto no ken game would be one where you do not play as Hokuto no ken. It would be an OPEN WORLD RPG based in the same universe, perhaps after the events of the end of the show. You could create your own character and eventually choose one of say 30 martial arts styles, and forge your own story kind of like the show with a heavy focus on either representing chaos or order.
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>>377923479
>somehow brings console wars into the thread

Classic Akagifag
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>>377923674
>rekt by Shin
>rekt by Raoh (Rei literally saved his life with that crossbow bolt)
>rematch with Raoh ended up with a draw and Kenshiro bleeding like a stuck pig and on the ground while Raoh was still left standing if barely
>rekt by Souther
>another draw with Raoh and "winning" only because Raoh sudoku'd
>draw with Falco
>HARDCORE REKT by Kaioh so hard he fell into clinical death
>draw with Hyoh
>rekt by Yuria's ghost so hard he became braindead
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>>377924167

It's obvious I wasn't counting HnK2. But it doesn't change that in the main series, he only lost twice, and all his victories other than VS Raoh were complete blowouts (and his first fight with Raoh WAS a blowout, Raoh was 100% going to die there weren't for the whole place collapsing, as Kenshiro knew Musou Tensei and he didn't)
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>>377923479
When hitting puberty most young boys take a shift in what they like, the new taste has to cater to their unique "personality" and they have to develope in this time and to the new social struggle for acceptence.
In this time they usually find eleborate reasons for liking and disliking things that usually aim more at social acceptance than at their own enjoyment.
This usually ceases when their hormone inbalance stops, making them able to enjoy things from a more simpler standpoint without the need to be socially accepted.
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>>377924167
>another draw with Raoh and "winning" only because Raoh sudoku'd

Raoh had already lost. He'd keep fighting if he could win, but he saw it was futile. Might as well say Kenshiro only beat Shin because he jumped off that balcony
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>>377924531
>Raoh had already lost.
Someone didn't pay attention.
Raoh only """lost""" because he chose to give his Touki to Yuria to extend her lifespan.
He literally would've rekt Kenshiro if he hadn't and Kenshiro himself confirms that.
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>>377925252

And Toki could have beat Raoh if he wasn't sick, what's your point? Raoh thought he could still win after doing that, he was wrong. You can't make these mistakes if you're to be a supreme ruler, his tactical error cost him his ambition
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>>377925419
>Raoh thought he could still win after doing that
Not really, after that he just wanted to settle with Kenshiro.
He explicitly says he threw away everything including his ambition and doesn't care about anything anymore other than one last fight with Kenshiro.
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*BLACKS your waifu*
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>>377925541

No johns. Then it was also unfair that Raoh even lived to that point, as a trap bailed him out from being killed by Kenshiro on their last fight
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I would have said a Musou game, but the HnK Musou games were fucking terrible. Ken's Rage was my first Musou and it put me off the genre for years.
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>>377925662

I hate HnK2 so much. Way to make all the events of the main series feel less unique and special

The series shouldn't have gone past Kenshiro learning Musou Tensei and beating Raoh
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>>377925756
Either you started with the second one, or you have extremely shit taste.
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>>377925718
By your logic Kenshiro shouldn't have lived through his first fight with Raoh in Mamiya's village considering he was literally saved by Rei.
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How did this kenshiro is a moralfag meme start

He killed hundreds of people and plays with some of his enemies before killing them
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>>377925662

Adult Lin a qt

>>377926029

And Toki should have been the sucessor, and Raoh should have been killed by Toki halfway through the series. A fight is settled before fists even cross, that Raoh could even go past that point was just his fate
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>>377926196
It's just one samefagging retard hypocrite because Akagi is a literal mary sue that never loses even once.
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>>377926196

Well, he only killed scumbags. Everyone else in the post apocalypse is murdering and stealing for personal gain
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>>377926208
My point was that Raoh getting bailed from a death situation in fight with Kenshiro made the score even with how Ken got bailed from a death scenario in his previous fight with Raoh.
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>>377925912
the manga ending was worse desu

>blind dude is ken's final fight
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>>377925912
Should I stop reading the manga after the final fight with Raoh?
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>>377926208
>And Toki should have been the sucessor
Play the first Hokuto Musou's Dream mode and he does.
Kenshiro gives up the mantle and goes off to live in peace with Yuria, Toki keeps the peace as the True Successor and Raoh is free to go back to Land of Asura to end the shitstorm there.

It only makes me even more mad that Ken's Rage 2 was a rushed piece of dumbed down garbage without a real dream mode. I so fucking wanted a Dream mode scenario with Raoh coming to the Land of Asura.
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>>377926592

It's where I stopped, but with the anime. But most people will tell you to watch it for completeness' sake, including watching trash related
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>>377926592
Read it all if only to have full context.
Also you should've watched the anime, since despite art obviously not being as good as the manga, everything else more than makes up for it.
God tier voice cast, god tier music, god tier direction.
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>>377926763
Is that canon?
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>>377926592
That's where I stopped and I got closure from it, so sure
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>>377926763
>Ten no Haoh
>trash
Choke on a bag of dicks, it's in the vein of HnK1 and is perfectly fine.

>>377926846
Yes.
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>>377926672
>and Raoh is free to go back to Land of Asura to end the shitstorm there.

The idea that Raoh was expanding his conquest and growing in power just to beat not-Raoh on top of not-Kokuoh the whole time is so fucking offensive to me
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>>377926592
>>377926763
theres also shin hokuto no ken, which was a sequel to the original mango
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>>377926947
>Choke on a bag of dicks, it's in the vein of HnK1 and is perfectly fine.

It belongs on a garbage can just for the horrible, generic animu art that makes even Raoh look bishonen

>Souther looks like Gilgamesh from fate

G A R B A G E

>>377926846

I'm fairly sure it's not
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>>377926965
Kaioh was so fucking garbage as a villain.
He was also saturday morning cartoon-tier unlike Raoh who had actual goals.
Kaioh's entire goal is "I AM EVIL FOR THE SAKE OF BEING EVIL AND I WANT TO MAKE THE WORLD RULED BY EVIL MWAHAHAHA EVIL DID I SAY I'M EVIL MWAHAHAHA LOOK AT MY EVIL AURA".

Fuck

Everything

After

Falco
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>>377927150
>It belongs on a garbage can just for the horrible, generic animu art

You're a complete retard judging something for its art rather than writing (and it was written by Buronson and drawn by a guest artist which is why it looks different).

>makes even Raoh look bishonen
Yeah you're a lying sack of shit. He's still roided the fuck out and taller than most.
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>>377927186
>In the original raoh and toki's parents grave are shown
>in hokuto no ken 2 kaioh's mothers grave is in the back of his home

unless kaiohs mom he's talking about isnt his biological mother isnt this a plot hole then again I watchede this series 7 years ago
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>>377927186

Not to mention his secret technique that was able to nullify Musou Tensei was so fucking dumb. He basically telekinetically lifted you off the ground and spun you around so you got dizzy. So much for the ultimate technique of Hokuto Shinken that nobody in 2000 years was able to realize
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>>377927914
>THIS IS MY ULTIMATE TECHNIQUE
>Whoosh spinning around whoosh
What a great move.
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>>377927914
>>377928150
You guys are misremembering.
That's not how Anryu Tenha worked.

It lifted the opponent off ground, nullified his senses (you can't see/hear during this) and put you into a miniature Zero G hole.

Kenshiro gets rekt the first time by this due to being unfamiliar with it.
The second time he IMMEDIATELY easily beats it by spinning in the air to create counter-force and regain his balance.

tl;dr
It's not Anryu Tenha that spins the opponent, it's Kenshiro that spun right round baby right round like a record.
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>>377928576
Well then. My bad. I still think it's kinda dumb though.
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>>377929029
I think it makes sense that the (initial at least) counter to Musou Tensei, which is basically enlightenment and feeling everything at once, is a technique that nullifies opponents senses and puts them in Zero G thus unable to interact with anything.
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>>377920475
SAY MY NAME!
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>>377930198

>Left out of every flashback
>All but retconned out of being one of the Hokuto brothers
>Post your quoting has an image that put fucking Juda in but left Jagi out

Jagi had a hard life
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>>377930198
Faggi?
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>>377930198
Sorry I forgot it.
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>>377930198
Hmmmmmm, Jewgi? Nah that's not it.
Oh right, it's >>377931510

>>377930315
He wasn't one of the Hokuto brothers in the sense that he wasn't of either of the Hokuto Soke bloodlines.
He was just Ryuken's own son that happened to be the only remotely competent student outside of the main three.
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>>377926592
I liked the Falco stuff right after it. The moment people start talking about the Land of Ashura is when you need to drop it though.

Also there was a small manga-only arc towards the end where Kenshiro ends up in some snowy mountain kingdom that was pretty fun.
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>>377921932
Besides King, was there anyone even close to Ken? Farthest I've read so far is Jagi
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>>377933273

Raoh is next. And Toki is stronger than Kenshiro, though they're not enemies
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>>377933273
Meant Shin, not King, my bad.
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https://youtu.be/4Qb_lcQGm6Q
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>>377933441

Shin IS King. It's his codename within the cards gang
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The eternal question, /v/:

Ai Wo Torimodose or TOUGH BOY?
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>>377933397
>Raoh is next

Souther actually. One of the best arcs
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>>377933964
Silent Survivor.
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>>377934531

Good, but not on the same level. The ending song of HnK1 is also in that category
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>>377934194
Souther isn't a relative in any way to Kenshiro.
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>>377934634
I disagree.
Silent Survivor is far more emotional and thematically fitting, same with Yuria Eien Ni.
Ai Wo Torimodose and Tough Boy are just "hype" and that's it.
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>>377934637

By "close to ken" I'm assuming he meant in power
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>>377934760
Then he's in for a doozy.

>>377934634
>>377933964
A NEW CHALLENGER APPROACHES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2JF4EW_X68
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>>377935010

"Kill the Fight" sounds like the song the South Park episode with the kids as anime was parodying. It's so fucking shit
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>>377935116
Your taste is so fucking shit that I wish I could kill you.
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>>377920475
yea pretty much this, add Shu and Jackal
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First of all, can we agree that it needs more strong women? and they can beat up the guys, too.
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>>377935325

>Having women fight
>In the post-apocalypse
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>>377935325
>>377935478
I wish they would throw in some of the anime-only characters in a Hokuto game for once like that green-haired chick who fought Kenshiro at one point or the renegade Gento fighters. But for some reason they tend to stick only with characters from the manga.
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>>377920475
>Tap an enemy with your finger and they explode
I don't see how an HNK game could work unless Ken got nerfed hard.
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>>377935883
Because like all anime filler, they're worthless and don't have techniques to make moveset out of.
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>>377935325
>80s fighting anime
>le stronk womyn
leave
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>>377920475
Just play Fallout 1/2 with an unnarmed build and the gore perk and go around the wasteland punching people until they blow up
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If Fist of the North Star was remade today he would just be some skinny betamale faggot like every other modern anime protag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bFcqGqZsF0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y2VzSY1HIg
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>>377936346
Are there any modern anime/manga with buff guys beating the shit out of each other? I'm reading Kinnikuman and HnK next.
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>>377937692

Grappler Baki
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>>377930198
>tfw Jagi was at one point played up to be a big threat
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