Fire Emblem Echoes

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>turn based

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>>377892028
The best thing about Echoes is that it still has the same soul of NES/SNES era, but with better presentation and interface. It reminds us of how different modern games are, nowadays it's all style but no substance.

Pic not related, but am I autistic enough?

Fucking Leon. I had to use the turnwheel 3 times to save him, and even then I only did it by rushing Genny straight toward him every turn to heal him. She got lucky and landed Nosferatu enough to keep herself alive.

>>377892028
Most of the negatives i've heard about this game boils down to maps and other Fire Emblem traits
If i'm not much of a Fire Emblem girl and feels like playing an RPG, would this game be suitable for me?

>>377892641
nu-FE actually lacks style, not substance. i however wasn't interested in playing a eugenics sim and strongly disliked pair up, so none of the content interested me at all. the minimalism is easily echoes' strong point, and that seems why IS made it faithful as it is.

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I started chapter 3 and started getting my ass kicked.

What's the best way to grind?

>>377893173
I'm not talking about nu-FE, but other series.

>>377893058
No, invest in a critical thinking class instead.

>>377893058
It's still a strategy game at heart; elements like map design are different than we're used to yet it's still important to learn them to get full enjoyment out of the game. I'd play something else. There's better games for the feeling of tailoring a party of adventurers to your liking and there's better games for getting to know a world and its cast of characters. You play FE for the strategy aspect bundling it all together.

I'm being told that it's not worth grinding till 20 to promote , is that true?

Not talking about villagers btw, the actual jobs.

>>377893312
Just dungeon, the first one.

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>>377893403
Yes, it's not worth grinding to 20 unless you have free time to burn. You can compare the stat in pic when grinding to 20 (both 0th and 1st promotion)

>>377893403
If you just want to get through the game, do it. Experience gain is super slow and promotion gains do nothing if the unit's stats are already beyond their class base. You'll be needing those advanced class skills too.

>>377892028
It's the most fun I've had with a FE game since the GBA/Tellius games. I really, really like it. Good characters, love the world map and the dungeon exploring and all the little changes that make the game stand out like the promotion thing and the item system.

Great return to Fire Emblem roots. Let's stick to this sort of stuff from now on.

>>377893959
If all 90s games were remade with this passion in Echoes, they would be awesome. Instead, we have too many half-hearted remakes already

>>377892028
>A nice change of pace.
>eating shit is a nice change of pace from normal food.

FE gaiden is an objectively bad game, and this is no different. only good thing about the remake is Hidari's art

Echoes is pretty much the Sacred Stones of 3DS

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God bless FE and making the loli's fucking nukes.

Why does Alm's gloves magically vanish when the plot calls for it?

>DLC costs more than the game

>>377894856
>prayer ring
For 'say your fucking prayers' situations?

My kamui sucks. Looks like Saber is soloing the second half of the game.

>>377893403
Unless you feel compelled to minmax, it's not worth it. Shitty gains all around make the extra grinding not as a good of a return on the time investment as usual.

>>377894721
because of the grinding? Or incest? either way SS is the only FE game I've bothered to finish, so I don't mind

>>377894856
How much did you grind her before promoting? I bet you save scummed for stats too.

>>377897203
Not him but you can guess from Ragnarok

>>377897203
The Dragon Shrine Dungeon is long as fuck and I just had her kill most things since she one turned them and I don't promote until I'm done with a dungeon.
No i didn't save scum her stats though, I did how ever get her the Soma.

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>>377892028

>Ordered limited edition from FUCKING AMAZON
>says delivered, but day 2 and nothing has showed up at my door

I know they'll give me a free month of prime or whatever, but I'm worried they won't replace the ''limited'' edition, AND I will have had to wait 3-4 extra days, depending on when they ship it

This is the 3rd time my mail carrier has fucked me over like this.

>>377897692
Contact customer support and you'll probably get refunded as well as get the game.

>>377897692
Have you contacted your mail carrier over this?
I mean if it's happening more than once, it's not just a normal fuck up, something is going on. Maybe they're delivering it to the wrong house or someone is stealing your packages or something.

>>377897847

Yeah, it's definitely the postal carrier. I've contacted them before about lost packages, they just basically shrug their shoulders and say they'll let me know if they find it

It's got a bit of a slow start and the maps aren't great, but I'm really enjoying it

>>377897941
Do you have other options for packages?
I hate the USPS service in my area, so I always make sure to send anything expensive through Fedex or UPS, even if it costs extra.

I really fucking love the art style. The graphics are great too.

I was worried IS were just planning on shitting out a half-assed, but this is better than Fates in every way

>>377898014

Does Amazon allow you to choose your carrier? I really don't know. Whenever something is sent Fedex or UPS, it always arrives. I only have this problem with the USPS.

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Are Palla and Catria supposed to be kind of weak? They're a real pain to level up, especially compared to the rest of Celica's team or even Clair who's been fantastic so far.

>>377898195
I don't think you can standard, but USPS literally won't come to my house because it's a shitty mountain area, everything with them has to come through the PO Box down in town. UPS and Fedex do go right to my front door though, so I have no idea why USPS won't.
But that does mean if I select my house address, they have no choice but to send it non-USPS. And vice versa if I put in the PO Box.

>>377892028
>great art that looks more in line with something fantasy/medieval instead of pseudo-anime
>3d graphics better than fates
>characters that are more than just walking tropes
>no pair-up that makes the game braindead easy
>dungeons
>pretty good story that keeps your interest with fun moments sprinkled in instead of having the majority of anything interesting being said locked to support conversations
>not the best map designs but they're decent enough. A lot better than some from fates
I don't get how anyone can not like this game
Atmosphere and everything else is just so great

>>377898775
Some people are too hardcore. And/or this game didn't resonate with them

>>377898205
I think Pegasus knights are just weak in general until you give them a decent weapon, was the same with Clair for me

>>377898907
Right, guess I'll send try sending over an extra steel spear or something.

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>>377892028
You guys made sure to not count Tobin out, right?

I wish Fire Emblem would go back to games like Echoes

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>Get it for $35 on Play Asia with free shipping
>Remembered they take forever to ship things

I regret everything

>>377898775
>A lot better than some from fates
even the worst rev gimmick map is better than most gaiden maps

Some anons are telling me not to go 20/20 route. Are they trying to screw me? I always do 20/20 on FE games.

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>>377899953
I did it.

Just about to rush the first castle. Someone talked about the Dragon Shield. How are you meant to get it since the guy seem to be able to one shot my guy plus the real boss rushes at you which you can kill fast.

>>377900008
>Congrats yourself with just two stat ups
Found that funny.

>>377899953
No, it's just that exp gain is slow, stat gains are lower than other titles, and the class change stat improvements simply boost you to the base stat (meaning if it's higher than the base stat, you get nothing upon class change).
It's a much poorer return on time investment than normal and for most normal players that aren't minmaxing, it's just not worth the extra hours in the dungeons for a meager handful of stat gains.

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>>377900013
Just get it in a different playthrough.

>>377900206
So I should change class as soon as possible?

>>377900280
I haven't finish the map yet. Just wondering how it's possible.

>>377900317
Personally, I leveled my guys to level 10 at the minimum before promotion, but I've heard you're fine doing ASAP by multiple people.

>>377900447
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/204443-fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-of-valentia/75291623

This guy's method worked for me, but I'm on Normal/Classic because I'm a weenie. I don't know how well his Hard method works.

>>377900602
Thanks. Thought once you agro the guy he will keep going after you. Make sense he stops if no one is in range. Just hope my guys can live while attacking him.

>>377898775
>Better maps than Fates

How deluded do you even have to be to think that? And this is coming from someone who dropped Fates multiple times before finishing it.

>>377899497
Mage Tobin is a beast.

>>377900447

Safest way is to have Forsyth and Lukas both promoted to Knights, lure Desaix into a corridor and sandwich him in between the knights, and then have all your ranged units wail on him until he gives up the ghost.

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The game might have bad maps and no weapon triangle, but good god it's nice to have a no-nonsense main character in Alm back.

Years of custom shit main characters and pointless romance options made me question if I liked the series in the first place.
AND YES I KNOW THE SERIES WOULD BE DEAD IF AWAKENING DIDN'T EXIST. Just don't make another Shadow Dragon or release the Wii game alongside Mario Galaxy then.

>>377901382
Alm isn't no-nonsense.

>>377901705
I don't think anon meant his personality.
I think he means no avatar shit, no shipping, no faffing about. You get given your main character and that's it.

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>>377901772
But Alm was shipped with Clair and of course Celica in FE2 and in 14 it's Faye also.

>>377901871
So you think Alm is in the same tier of character as Corrin?

>>377901871
Well, sure, shippers are going to ship, but it's not an actual game mechanic or anything you either have to concern yourself with or lose units.

>>377901871
that's a very different kind of shipping

>>377901957
Why do you people always deflect any criticism to Fates?
>>377901975
>>377902008
But all of the love story was amped up to eleven in this game.
So there is a decent amount of faff in this game

>>377901772
Kek, you mean the chosen one that all the girls go crazy over and has a personal waifu that loves him forever?

Avatars are small time when compared to the likes of Alm, Roy and Ike.

>>377902048
maybe because the post you were replying to was comparing Echoes to Fates

>>377902107
No it wasn't no one ever mentioned fates in this reply chain.

>>377902163
>Years of custom shit main characters and pointless romance options made me question if I liked the series in the first place.
what did he mean by this I wonder

>>377902201
He could have meant 12 or 13.
But you had to bring 14 up out of nowhere.
You have an issue.

>>377902279
and you're part of the problem

>>377902279
Maybe it does extend back as far as 12, but it sure as fuck would include Fates

Fuck you're autistic, literally who gives a fuck.

>>377902339
What problem?
Do you just enjoy derailing Fire emblem threads or are you actually like this?

>>377902358
Then why does referencing the clair/Alm thing make me think that Alm is on the same tier as Corrin.
It makes no sense,

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Is this supposed to be balanced?

>25 spd while having the def of a Baron

>>377902437
Fuck you're autistic, literally who gives a fuck.

>>377902375
you're the one that derailed it mate

>>377902443
Thank you for ruining another Fire emblem thread.

>>377902479
How?

>fatesfags
The only thing worse are whales dumping insane amounts of money into Heroes.

>>377902570
Where are these fatesfags?

>>377902570
>Fatesfags

Do they even exist? Even Awakeningfags didn't like Fates. Fates was so fujo that even waifufags didn't care much for fates.

Let's get this shit show back on track.
>First Fire Emblem
>Favorite Fire Emblem
post em.

>>377902840
>Binding Blade
>Genealogy of the Holy War

I'm trying to replay Binding Blade, but the game is such a fucking pain in the ass when you aren't emulating it.

>>377902840
>path of radiance
>path of radiance

>>377902840
>Awakening
>7

>>377903092
I'm playing through Genealogy for the first time, and I don't really "get" it. Just started chapter 2. It just feels like a slog to play since all the maps are so big.
I also don't understand how to trigger supports, I understand that it's important for the second half though.

>>377892641
I don't play Fire Emblem but this status screen looks really nice

>>377903246
>and I don't really "get" it.
I didn't either my first time through.

>I also don't understand how to trigger supports
There aren't any support conversations - if you have compatible characters standing next to each other for long enough, they can marry. Check their second info page to see if they have a lover or not. There are some events that can happen that'll help a pairing along, but you'll have to rely on keeping units adjacent to each other a bit.

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>>377903246
Placing people next to each other builds love points.
Did you get the Brave Axe?
Also always check if units have people to talk to.

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someone red pill me on this game, wasn't the original considered a black sheep in the series? What is different about it from the standard fire emblem mechanics?

>>377902840
>Awakening
>Radiant Dawn I just like the gameplay and maps no bully.

>>377903660
dungeon crawling

>>377902840
FE7
FE12

>>377903398
Oh, they automatically marry. I thought there'd at least be a prompt.

>>377903730
There is if both are sent back to the main castle together.

>>377902840
the first one (couldn't understand shit)
sacred stones I guess, though I don't have a hard favorite

>>377902829
yeah, it's called people who play fire emblem for the gameplay

Has the english cia been ripped for this already or am I still limited to playing the Japanese version with the english menu patch?

>>377902829
>Do they even exist? Even Awakeningfags didn't like Fates

Conquest had good gameplay, though. Stop getting your opinions from shitposters and play the actual game.

Question about equipment.

If I learn a skill from the Iron sword, I can only use it while having it equipped...are there other weapons that contain these skills so I'm not stuck with having to equip it if i want to use the skill?

>>377904114
Some weapons do share skills but honestly the skill system is one of the games flaws.

>>377902840
Blazing sword
Radiant Dawn

>>377904160
Yeah...it seems kinda pointless to bother learning skills since replacing weapons seems to be so commonplace.

I think they should have just put in skill scrolls. Fuck the reclassing gay shit, i love that this game doesn't have that.

>>377900013
Did a little bit of grinding and got Alm to level 9-10. I also had a good Claire, a knight, two ranged units that can have 3 range, Slique, and Faye as a cleric. You have to lure the Paladin boss to the left of the map first with Claire (put her in range of some of the cavs, they aggro the boss away). Once that is done you can run her back and forth at the end of the battlements to lure cavs back and forth, make sure Faye has psychic to heal Claire at a range just in case. Then have Alm or someone tanky lure the baron/dragonshield out. Heal the person luring him out and wail on boss with all the ranged you have. If you can sandwich the baron, I didn't and he ran back to heal zone and I had to run in there and jump on a heal spot too while plugging the exit with a knight (after the paladin eventually ran back in there to heal after getting hit hard). I warped my gray in there once baron got off the healing tile and sandwiched him in the corner between two decently tanky guys on heal squares and wailed at him with 2 archers till he died. The paladin tried his luck with the knight plugging the exit, but falls back to healing tiles after getting down to low HP. Heard Claire luring paladin out and stranding him works on normal, but this method got me the shield on hard.

>>377904239
It's doubly annoying as some Iron weapons have great little skills.
I would love to throw a Silver Lance with Longearche but you aren't allowed.

>>377902840
Blazing Sword
Radiant Dawn

>>377904160
I prefer it, I love how simplified everything is, the problem I have with Awakening is that I want to break everything, and when I do the game stops being fun

>>377902829
People who actually play Fire Emblem for the gameplay loved Conquest.

>>377902840
>Sacred Stones
>FE7, Hector is TOO based.

>>377904465
Wouldn't you love to simply use armour crush without using a steel lance or the evolved Ridersbane?

>>377904396
well considering how you can switch iron to steel with 150 silver, I can see why it's required.

>>377902829
Conquest was great, It'll probably be the last good new fire emblem, I'm not holding my breath for switch, they'll probably make it similar to Awakening.

>>377904612
No, then it would be awakening tier where I'm grinding all these different weapons soley for skills.

All i can think of when i hear Est's voice is Luna in Shadowverse

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Those magnificent bastards even double the bosses on hard with their fuckhuge speed stat of 18

>>377902840
Sacred Stones (Awakening is the first one I actually finished, though.)
Blazing Sword

>>377904396
I like it; its another way of balancing not having weapon durability. Makes weapons more unique.

I do think it'd be better if there was a shield/ring slot though.

>>377905085
Or just to cycle weapons.

>>377894287
This. And some of the animations. Echoes fails at the major things but gets some of the small things right.

>>377900864
>How deluded do you even have to be to think that? And this is coming from someone who dropped Fates multiple times before finishing it.

Don't bother reasoning with shills.

>>377904619
If you upgrade iron to steel, does it retain the skills from iron?

>>377905853
nope

>>377905853

No

>>377905921
>>377905928
Okay.jpeg

Well i guess I can treat equipment like faux skill scrolls, I kinda wish it didn't stay in the character skill list tho.

as someone who's never played a fire emblem, i found the dungeon crawling to actually keep me interested in the game. I usually quit after the first 3 hours due to boredom of only doing battles..

Steel bows don't seem like they're worth using unless forged.

>Alm goes to war with a fucking empire with an army of nothing but peasant volunteers, complete losers and Clair
>Celica just wanders around killing bandits with an elite group of warriors and incredibly talented spellcasters (plus Boey)
Even Alm himself isn't that strong. I thought he was some kind of superbadass.

>>377906741
>Alm isn't strong
He can solo act 1 by himself pretty easily.

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>>377907079
Act 1 is easy as fuck. Are we supposed to be impressed?

>>377900447
Having Faye as a Cleric with Physic will make this infinitely easier
>First, get rid of every enemy but Slayde, Desaix and the knight standing guard by him
>Fly Clair to one of the side corridors and lure Slayde to attack her
>keep doing this until he runs into a corridor deep enough he can't get out
>fly Clair out of there
>lure Desaix with Lukas (have Silque hiding behind him out of Desaix's range if needed), to a chokepoint, if possible to the stairs of the archer nest to get rid of the tile evasion bonuses
>plow into him with the lightning sword and all your ranged dudes until his 41 HP finally drops
>never use the dracoshield for anything anyways
For the record, you don't actually need to use Lukas of Forsythe if you have enough Cleric. It's just much safer. Every character short of Silque will survive an attack from Desaix. I ended up using Clive as the lure and kept him Physiced up until I got the shield.

>>377902840
You fucking hipsters. It's
Awakening
Awakening
For everyone.

>>377907335
I'm just saying, Alm's not weak. Also he can actually keep up with his own army unlike Celica who drags behind and is useless in any desert/swamp terrain, especially with no Warp user.

>>377902840
>Awakening
>Binding Blade

>>377907678
>tfw no more zombie Silque

I hope someone makes a patch for Echoes that brings back cross route revivals

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What is this?

>>377904935
>using summons to kill things
>all that wasted exp

>>377902840

Blazing Sword
Blazing Sword/Conquest

>>377907951
see if a smithy can forge it into something otherwise it's probably a quest item.

>>377907951
Lets you walk in water without being slowed down

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>>377892641
>no Dracoshield

>>377902840
>7
>7

8 was a good follow up, but it's all been a spiral of disappointment and pain since.

>>377908589
Oh, and after 3 attempts I cannot find a rom of 6 that doesn't break at the exact same spot in chapter 11.

>>377908760
Just get the one in /feg/'s pastebin

Who the fuck thought dagons were a good idea?
I want to die

>>377902840
First few chapters of awakening, but then dropped it and played 7
Path of Radiance

>>377901382
How is Chrom not no-nonsense?
I know awakening get's shit posted to death here, but people also over look it's positives.

>mfw longbow
Archers just keep getting better and better. It gets a skill that pins people in place in addition to 2-4 range.

>>377910492
i think its because he becomes overshadowed by Robin after chapter 11.

Alm does not have this problem despite sharing spotlight with celica

>>377909561
What, necrodragons? Just have the sheep expel them until they're more manageable

>>377892641
Echoes is the epitome of all style no substance.

>>377911501
No i'm talking about Dagons
They have a fair and balanced attack that ignore your defense

>>377911674
Oh. I haven't encountered one yet, I take you find them in the labyrinth or on the boat ride over or something?

>>377907959
I only did it once for the lulz, in a Fire Emblem with infinite grinding. Of course I wouldn't pull this shit off otherwise.

>>377904367
Got it and I didn't really need to grind. Level 7 is my max unit right now. God that was annoying and while it might be worth it I hate boss fights like that. Where you are just throwing pebbles at the boss slowly taking off its health.
Also fuck that "It's just a double" shit

Who is the best to give it too? Thinking mage since they take health to cast spells.

>>377892028
It certainly restores my faith in the fire emblem franchise. Best remake after Odin Sphere.

>>377893403
The lower gains makes me appreciate maxing their level more. In awakening, you reached max stats before getting to max. This one makes each level feel more valuable.

So which Archer is better early on Tobia or Python?

>>377902840
>The Blazing Blade
>Conquest

If it wasn't for Conquest my love for the series would have dropped after Awakening.

>>377902840
Blazing Sword
Genealogy of the Holy War

>>377902840
>Baby Sword
>Ike's Path to Ashnard's asshole/Baby Sword/Alm and Celica fuck definitive edition

>>377912353
You take both because archers are incredible

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>>377911440
The way I look at it is that up until the time skip is Chrom's personal arc, after that the story focuses on Lucina with her war in the past to change the future, and then the final arc is Robbin against Grima.
It's like changing lords, but with them all still there, kinda like how in FE7 Lyn is basically done with after the tutorial and then it just focuses on Eliwood/Hector depending on the mode you choose.

So the new classes getting released tomorrow are just upgrades for top tier classes?

Have the japs mentioned how OP they are or not?

>>377912709
Valm is still chrom's arc though. Largely it's about chrom and dealing with his fathers legacy and figuring out who he is. It wasn't until late that you find out it's tangentially related to the grima plot outside of the mcguffin orbs

>>377912653
Reminder that Ashnard did nothing wrong, and that he himself was only defeated by the thing he was trying to implement

>>377912353
Tobin definitely. If Tobin ISN'T an archer, you've basically made a useless unit.

Reminder you don't need to 20/20 your units; You primarily gain 2 stat boosts every level anyway, and you have literally 3 Class changes and 4 if you bought the DLC. You're going to get maxed out either way

>>377912850
>Bow knights lose 1 MOV on upgrade to elephant

DROPPED

>>377912929
Do they get range +3 to compensate? That sounds lame regardless though

>>377912929
>They're not even riding an elephant, just a horse with funny elephant like armor.

>>377912862
I really liked Walhart's conversation with Chrom when you first fight him.

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So now that NoA confirmed that PoR is next what do you hope they do with the game?

>>377912850
>>377913181
Is there a point to these tier 4 classes? What gameplay is even left by the time you'd use them

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Binding Blade remake FUCKING WHEN
That game only needs a few tweaks to be the perfect FE game

>>377902840
>7
>9

>>377913534
I hope they just put it on the VC with radiant dawn and don't change nothing

Or, just slap on a widescreen patch and fix up the textures.

I honestly don't want them to touch it much, seeing how they kept Echoes intact, it seems they understand that though.

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>>377912909
I 20/20'd my units!

>>377913534
Eh. Wtf? Is this going to be a Switch game?

>>377913927
It could easily be a typo since it's more likely someone got lazy editing Alm's profile rather than accidentally leaked a game.

>>377913827
>Kliff
I made him an archer and he was more impactful than Alm

Longbow on him and he one shot bosses from safety.

>>377911595
This. The game looks great and has a lively world with lots of character fetch quests, but there's no replay value because there are so few classes to play with, and besides the villagers everyone does the same thing every run.

There's no point in even experimenting with the items because the game is easy no matter what you use.

People keep using terms like unique and refreshing to describe this game, and it is for one playthrough, but once the honeymoon wears off you'll be going back to older more challenging FE games with better replay value.

>>377913927
It's probably a profile from FE warriors

Echoes is proof that of the divide between the elitist FE fans and the Nu-FE fans. Basically, while the Nu-FE fans only care about being able to self-insert (regardless of how garbage the self-insert actually is) to be with their waifu/husbando, elitist FE fans only care about story and non-gimmicky characters (regardless of how bland they may be).

Basically no one in the fanbase really cares about gameplay. Elitist FE fans pretend to, but Echoes is proof that they don't. It has the same kind of maps that they bitched about in Awakening, yet because the story is a bit better and there are no waifus, they jerk off to it as though it's perfection.

>>377914190
No, it's about the mobile game Heroes.

>>377914238
It doesn't just have the same kind of maps than Awakening, it has maps in awakening.

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>>377914238
fuck off mate, you don't know shit about fire emblem gameplay

>>377914238
But it has waifus just not the regular cockteasing sluts. And the story is alot better which isn't hard since Fate/Awakening have an awful story.

>>377902840
>First Fire Emblem
Sacred Stones
>Favorite Fire Emblem
Sacred Stones

But for only one reason I really enjoyed the enemy variety. New games just have one kind of monster and its lame. Echos may take over the spot though depending on how the rest of the game goes. I'm liking the variety here.

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>>377914238
I'm guessing youre shit posting, but that is still one of the most retarded things I've read in these threads

>>377914437
Radiant Dawn has the best music tho.

>"I'm a Forsyth to be reckoned with"
And dropped.

>>377894287
M U H
A
P
S

I have a friend who recently finished Awakening and Fates (all 3 of them) but somehow refuses to play the other games. He never mentions it but implies they are just "too old" and internet ratings. And I bet the regular newfag of the franchise thinks the same.

>>377902840
>First Fire Emblem
Sacred Stones

>Favorite Fire Emblem
Tough to say. I enjoyed 7,8,9,and 13. I'm really enjoying Echoes so I'll add that to the list.

>>377914437
You're in the minority. Most of the FE fanbase couldn't give a shit about gameplay. Just look at how much /v/ loves Echoes.

>>377914238
All the """"oldfags"""" have only care about the story in FE games. The actual oldfags and nu-FEfags know that gameplay is king, and just want FE to be good again.

>>377913827
so now you're going to 20/20/20 your units????????
>>377914095
Kliff as a mage is literally unstoppable. Without buffs, mine is only level 11 and has 14 defense, and 13 speed with Excalibur already in his arsenal. Everything except his resistance is above 10

>>377908567
>tfw no girl to pat my head

;_;

>>377914774
Love is a bit much. I think the consensus is more like it's refreshing to have such a style change.

>>377914862
20/20/20/20/20 them, yes.

>>377914661
>I'm a Forsyth to be reckoned with

Picked up

>>377914734
I can't blame him. The QOL features from the all 3DS titles can make the previous ones seem really slow.

>>377902840
>Awakening
>Thracia 776

>>377900013
Are you on normal or hard mode? On hard, any enemy that goes below half HP will run back to the arcanist or a healing spot to get healed up, including the two bosses as long as they have an escape route, so you can exploit this to lure out Desaix and then warp Lukas with a shield to block his escape route and chip him down. You have to kill the entire rest of the army though and avoid actually killing Slayde since if you do then Desaix will just fuck off.

>>377915196
Son what you are saying is blasphemy. Now if you'd just said Echoes, sure, but Awakening and Fates? Kindly kill yourself lad, those are spinoff games like Persona is to SMT, and we all pretend they don't exist here.

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What was Alm's tax policy after becoming Emperor/King?
Wouldn't Duma's death cause the land to starve?

>>377915394
Now this is autism.

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>>377914437
Stop posting this shitty list

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>>377915537
Taxation is theft

SAY IT WITH ME

>MUH
>MAPS

It's shit, as expected of a remake of the worst FE game.

>>377915537
He didn't govern. Mycen, Conrad and Tobin all governed in his stead. He just sat around the castle, like the useless waste of space Kings tend to be.

>>377915867
(lol who cares about maps?

Zeke looks cool. Is he worth leveling?

im glad they kept the finishing animation for killing Duma

>>377916831
Yes

>>377916887
>Alm finishes with a crit
>"Alright."
Who allows this shit

>>377916831
He'll stomp shit from the get go. He was more useful than Matilda for me and she's already a monster.

>>377903660
That's a really cool dad. I wish my parents bought me a crate of hentai. Always have to buy it myself.

>>377917003
That's why you play the undub.

>>377916887
>>377917003
Wait does he always finish with a crit?

I was just happy he was able to do that shit.

>>377917185
He doesn't, but it doesn't change the animation either

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>want to play echoes
>don't have a 3ds

Does it still have wifus/future kids/shitty supports like the last 2 games?

>>377893312
Find a level with a cantor and just spam his summons

>>377919148
No marrying off other than canon
no future kids

>>377916831
Is he the only character in Fire Emblem with three different names?

>>377919269
Oh thank god. This is what was stopping me from buying it.

>>377892028
This game is even better if you've played the original Gaiden
FE2 is my favorite FE game

>>377918412
Buy it, anon

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>>377920572
im not dropping 200 bongs just to play it

>>377920760
An used one would be cheap, not to mention the 2DS

>>377920760
>Not getting a 3ds, cracking it, and playing a shitton of good games

>>377921246
This

>>377920760
>buy a 2DS for 60 bux
>hack it

Dracoshield to faye or my tanks?

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>>377914437
Better taste inc

>>377922412
Dracoshield for Silque better, because she can be frontline healer

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>>377922467
>it's a "judge shadow dragon on sales rather than its merit as a game" poster

>>377922729
the only redeeming thing the remake had was cool maps, but that doesn't justify that every single other thing was a complete shitshow, from pseudo-3d sprites to half-assed reclassing

>>377922467
PoR and RD should be in the same tier as SD

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>tfw the best girl in the game is already taken

Why the fuck does that beta Clive with shit stats and growths get this literal goddess

>>377922987
his dick, literally

>>377922890
And despite that it sold more than PoR or RD yet those two aren't on nearly killed the franchise tier.

>>377923070
>why are you judging games on sales
>don't judge the game on sales

>>377902840
>7
>Thracia 776

>>377922987
don't forget that Delthea also wants to jump Clive's bones

Still in the early game. Grey as Myrmidon or Mercenary? Myrmidon has better bases, so I figure it's worth a shot.

>>377893058
L O N D O N

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>>377923391
>ywn get double teamed by a hot leggy valkyrie and a qtp2t genki loli

>>377923710
Promote ASAP

>>377923710
Myrmidon is the promoted form of mercenary in this game.

>>377923927
Oh. Guess I'll try it and see how it goes.

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>>377902840
>Shadow Dragon
>Sacred Stones

>>377922467
>Awakening that high

I cant understand the appeal of awakening, ive tried to finish it 3 seperate times and I cant do it

>>377923287
>why are you judging some games on sales and not judging other games on sales
It's retarded to do so in the first place, but if you're applying the standard at all it's doubly retarded to make exceptions.

>>377924237
Actual good taste, anon

>>377924594
but I am not? I legit think shadow dragon nearly killed the franchise. At least hoshido and revelation were somewhat playable at times but I had to push myself to finish shadow dragon.

Its on golden sun dark dawn levels of failure

>>377925086
>Playing the first few levels of shadow dragon

What was so bad about it? It sticks too closely to FE1?

>>377925260
yes
To an almost painful degree
they really upped their game for the sequel though

>>377923320
Same here.

Also, fuck the fan "translation" for Thracia 776. I've never seen such a shit localization of anything, ever. I tried to replay FE5 recently using the patch, because I haven't played it since before there was one... and it literally ruined my experience and killed some of the love I had for the game. It's that bad. One of the best games in the series, and it has by far the worst translation patch made by it's fans. It deserves so much better than this shit. Even the fucking menus aren't fully translated, so the shitty thing isn't even useful, let alone good.

>>377908057
Kek

>>377925754
>they really upped their game for the sequel though
Too bad they added Kris and still used the same shitty graphic design.

>>377923391
Fernand does too before he goes full PEASANTS REEEE

>>377922987
Yowza what a woman.

>>377925754
Kris was the best MU, despite what other may think. I may not remember much, but I don't think they ever got in the way of the story. Theirs growths are still bullshit, though it's probably because they were training with an assassin the whole time

So how many units does Alm and Cilica get? Heard it a much smaller cast than in other FE games. Just took back the first castle so have a good bit of units already.

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>>377892028
I'm ready to roll!

>>377926701
max 33 between them or something?

>>377926701
Both end up with a party of around 20 if you don't miss anyone, which should be nearly impossible. The only recruitable unit that's somewhat possible to miss is the guy from Mila's Temple.

Honestly have no idea how some of you guys don't find this game too easy. Even on hard chapters that looked like a challenge went by so quickly and easily. Any time I saw a cantor that summoned witches I thought it would be difficult but it never was. Even the final battle is trivialized by invoking.

>>377926956
I missed like 8 units on my first playthrough

Its kinda easy to miss em.

>>377926956
Think I have everyone so far? Can you go back just in case you missed someone? Do you get more units by speaking to NPC on the field like normal or are they all just hanging around and you ask them to join?

>>377926895
Where is the porn

>>377927375
I think you can go back and get people. And there are no mid-battle recruits although some do have to survive a battle before you can recruit them..

>>377925782
It's usable desu. Menus in fire emblem are straight forward, you can memorize them quickly. The story translation is mostly ok outside of memes. The real problem are the bugs that cause the game to crash and other jank stuff. The FE community is just shit in general, they'd rather retranslate FE6 and fates than give FE5 a solid patch.

>>377926895
i fucking love her voice

is it worth it to reclass 3rd tier units back to villager?

>>377927724
I don't know. It's not fair

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>Saber's VA

>>377929054
No. It isn't even worth 20/20 units.

>>377929054
You can do that?

>>377930582
only dread fighters. its a bug from the original that got carried over as a feature.

>>377930582
Dread Fighters can promote back into Villagers and keep their stats sans movement.

>>377927842
>Menus in fire emblem are straight forward, you can memorize them quickly.
That's no excuse or argument for an incomplete menu. It's been over 15 years and the game STILL doesn't have a complete menu patch. Echoes had a complete menu patch in less than a day after the Japanese rom was leaked.

>>377927842
>The story translation is mostly ok outside of memes. The real problem are the bugs that cause the game to crash and other jank stuff.

No, not in my opinion. The real problem is the dialog itself. EVERYTHING is stilted and bland and characters do not speak to each other in a natural way. It's actually terrible.

The ONE bug that crashes the game is semi-annoying but avoidable, and the memes are stupid and out of place, but the dialog itself was my main problem with the patch. As well as the incomplete menus and 5-character limit of the character's names.

So why did the king have to die again? I get everything else in his plan but that seemed kinda pointless

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>>377930812
I like that they made bugs like Dread Fighters promoting into Villagers and being able to kill Duma with Nosferatu features in the remake.
>>377931634
To prove Alm was strong enough? Would made more sense if he actually would fight Alm instead of not attacking

>>377931634
Alm doesn't actually give any fucks and just wanted him dead because he did bad things. It's not until he actually killed him that he found out enough information to care. Alm also needed to be strong enough to lead the continent without the need of gods and I guess killing his dad and dealing with it was just another part of the plan?

>>377931631
There's actually an older lesser-known patch that does the menus better and bypasses the limit on names and classes and things.

https://www.romhacking.net/translations/624/

>>377914774
>Look at how much /v/ loves Echoes?
The fuck are you talking about? I've been of /v/ for about a week playing this game and since browsing again last night it's been mostly people bashing it, like they do every new game.

So you can't have waifus this game correct? Just the cannon shitty one? Why the fuck would they remove the one redeeming element of the game?

>>377894287
>2+2=4 = OBJECTIVE FACT
>Feelings about kids toys = SUBJECTIVE OPINION
Learn the difference, thunderdunce.

>>377932665
>Redeeming element of the game
Eugenics was a mistake.

>>377932881
What other reason do people play fire emblem if not for the waifus though anon? Who thought it would be smart to lock into a trash one?

>>377932665
There are like a dozen waifus

>>377892028
Does this game have any NTR?

It's my first FE game and I'm liking it quite a bit. From my understanding, other games like Fates might have more substance, so I can see why veteran fans of the series might be turned off by Echoes being more simplistic, but I really don't know how anyone can argue this is a BAD game.

>>377933168
>Celica
>trash

>>377933198
From what I've seen there are no romance options though? You can't actually do shit right?
>>377933376
She's a basic waifu though. Almost every poster one tends to be anon.

>>377933462
No romance options, just like the game it was remade from.

>>377933240
Years of pampered babies thinking their opinions are objective facts, so if they don't like it, it means it's bad. This applies everywhere, not only on 4chan or only video games. They can't imagine a game they don't like being good, or vice versa.

>>377933579
Again. why would they not include romance options though. It's a major reason I assume many play these games. Without romancing/waifus it seems like an average jrpg.

>>377933768
You sound like a massive faggot

>>377933768
Because it would not make any sense in the story.
You should find yourself a dating sim, not a video game.

>>377933768
Fire emblem is a loved series without marrying, only the last two had that option. I wish Echoes felt like an average JRPG, that'd mean JRPGs would be amazing.

Just finished it

I want to hug Celica

>>377926697

Kris took every idea Marth had and made it his

He was the worst MU

>>377933768
Only three games in the series had some actual eugenics planning, two of them had self inserts which is the one a lot of people go nuts over. The other games do have some sort of pairing thing but aren't the main focus of the games and take place in small side conversations and just affect epilogues if they have one together. Even then some already have canon pairings like Eliwood and Ninian.
Gaiden was made before that and tells a more straightforward and set story so none of that matchmaking shit.

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>>377893620
Mine beats yours!

Post your worst villager and class

>Gray
>Cavalier

He became Clive 2.0

>>377934321
>1 speed

>>377934558
>Tobin
>Mage
Sounded great on paper.

Fernand did nothing wrong.

>>377934558
>Gray as a merc
consistent 1 stat levels will do that

>>377934558
lol same here

>>377934558
>Tobin
>cavalier
He can't do shit other then move a little further.

>>377913803
>I hope they just put it on the VC with radiant dawn and don't change nothing
This, leave it unchanged and release it as a compilation pack so people can enjoy the minor transfer content.
And bonus stuff too like concept art and junk within in the game.

>>377926697
>make my dude a badass merc/pirate with a scared face and bandana (thinking "this is gonna be awesome")
>choose greedy and selfish options for all his personality traits
>get in game
>MU is a fucking selfless pansy with no sense of direction who does nothing but suck Marth's dick at every turn

Yeah, what a great MU... (not)

The best MU is actual Mark from FE7, because he barely says or does anything, ever. The minute you give a blank-slate self-insert character a defined personality--or any personality traits at all--you've fucked up. IS has no idea how to do an avatar character right at all and that's why people hate them and they suck in every game besides FE7.

>>377935670
If I remember FE7 correctly, Lyn was begging to suck Mark's dick.

Constantly praising him for the smallest shit.

>>377924297
>Awakening's sales is around 2 millions
You're just a contrarian

>>377934558
All my villagers are awesome so far. (Haven't gotten Atlas yet.)

Gray and Tobin are Mercs, Cliff is a Mage and Faye is a Cleric.

Faye is probably my worst just because all her level ups have been piss-poor. But even she is incredibly useful with all her utility and high def for a (RNG-screwed) Cleric.

>>377935965
It wasn't the other way around, at least. Which is far more important.

>>377934558
>Tobin
>Paladin
Clive has the same stats as him and he's still a Cavalier.

>>377914905
*pats head*

>>377935670
That the problem with all the MUs (except Mark), they're avatar in names only. They already have a set personality and you don't have dialogue choices. People scapegoating the MUs for the reasons that the story of Awakening's and Fates's suck doesn't realized that even if they aren't MUs, the story will still be the same shit. Ironically if they are indeed like the avatar they suppose to be, with choices that come with actual consequences and the story will be infinitive more superior .

>>377936774
>get Seraphim
>Celica still dies because of how heavy the magic is
Am I suppose to fight both of them the moment I gain access to the shrine?

>>377934558
>Atlas
>Merc
5 MERCENARIES
He hits like a truck but all the other mercs are just better.

>>377902840
>First Fire Emblem
7
>Favorite Fire Emblem
Torn between Genealogy, Thracia and Path of Radiance.

>>377937007
Fuck, didn't mean to reply

>>377937007
you can win pretty easily by using invoke. they'll focus down the phantoms.

>>377934321
Dat shield
Dat smile
Is this the feeling of love?

>>377934558
Atlus. On Alm's side, they're all great right now. Priestess Faye with Mage Ring is great.

>>377902840
>Sacred Stone
>Awakening

If only I knew of all the hates that Awakening will got because of "MUH MAPS", "MUH GAMEPLAY", "MUH STORY" faggot. I rather the series just die then me paying out of my wallet so the old-cuntfaggotshit can enjoy remakes of the older games thanks to the newfound popularity brought by Awakening.

>>377937281
Ayy, thanks. Didn't know phantoms have the highest priority. Does this apply to all enemies?

>>377936013
>muh sales
Why is this the only argument Awakeningfags can ever come up with?

>>377937629
>"MUH MAPS", "MUH GAMEPLAY", "MUH STORY"
So basically everything is wrong with Awakening and you still like it.

>>377936016
>>377937025
Ignore what shitters say, Atlas should be a Archer.
Keeps him from becoming redundant, as you already have 3, possibly 4 Mercs on Celica's Side.
The only other Archer on Celica's route is Leon, and Leon is meant for chip damage/support while Atlas is the one-hit wonder Archer that hits like a truck but dies really easily due to low speed.

>>377938843
>"MUH MAPS", "MUH GAMEPLAY", "MUH STORY"
For you autistic-fag ONLY, Awakening was the comfy-ist video game I ever played. I don't need come up with reasons why Awakening is good, 2 millions that brought it and enjoying it is good enough. The great reception of game is icing on the cream. Stay mad that Awakening will forever be remembered as THE not one of, best FE game.

>>377939667
>cake

>>377939667
>2 million have bought it and enjoying it
Sales isn't a good measure, I've bought it thinking I would enjoy it and ended up hating it

>>377902840
>First Fire Emblem
Sacred Stones
>Favorite Fire Emblem
Tie between Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn

>>377939667
autism

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A lot of the voices are pretty good, or at least better than in fates which is admittedly not hard to do, but fucking Berkut's performance knocks it out of the park.

>>377939810
That are existing people who think PS2 is a shit console, nothing can satisfied all people after all.

>>377940503
What?
I honestly don't understand what you mean, and what point you're making

>>377920760
whatever you do, dont get yourself a 2ds
its a fucking awful experience

>>377914593
Tell me about it, the first time you hear this in battle, pure bliss, loved it made it to smash too

https://youtu.be/ihgGH4qW8eg

>>377940969
>Greil Mercs battle theme
>Picture of Micaiah
I shouldn't be annoyed about something so trivial but I am

>>377941071
Was it Greil mercs battle theme?

I honestly remember it as the battle music from the final act. It's been a while since I played RD

>>377938358
No. Thile that is usually the case there have been times when the enemy just ignored them.

>>377934558
No regrets with my villagers so far, but on my first playthrough I made Tobin a cavalier and Grey an archer. Grey couldn't hit shit and Tobin was WORLD OF NO STR.

>>377902840
>Blazing Sword
>either Geneology, SoV, or Blazing Sword

Though I haven't really hated any of the fire emblem's that I've played besides revelations

The GBA ones will always be the comfiest

>>377934558
>Gray
>Merc
he's alright, my only merc in Alm's route. Doesn't hit as hard as he needs to considering his speed, isn't a crit monster like all of Celica's mercs, and isn't really that fast or bulky

He had the lightning sword forever, though, and I gave him the brave sword last night so we'll see if he's any better now.

All my villagers ended up pretty good though
>Atlas became a fucking nuke with bows when I made him a sniper
>Kliff is a speedy critmage, and hits like a train
>Tobin is the better of my two archers in Alm's route since python is just "okay", has above average stats all around
>Faye had 15 def when I reclassed her as a cleric, for some reason, and has physic and rescue

Also, just killed Nuibaba yesterday with invoke. Fucking Silque summoned two dread fighters who climbed up the mountain and attacked her, and somehow didn't get killed by the other dread fighters while I killed them with my archers. Apparently her "lol u have 1hp now" spell only halves the current health of dread fighters, so she kept attacking them and they just tore her apart

breddy gud

>>377939471
I don't care about redundancy, I'm making him a Merc and I'm recruiting Deen too.

Mercs are awesome and really damn good in this game. And it not only suits Atlas, but it's easily his best class option.

>>377942962
Dread fighters have a skill that halves magic damage

>>377943586
Yeah, I'm aware of that, I just didn't think it would work with Medusa that way. At the very least, I figure'd the AI would target someone she stood a chance of killing with

>>377942962
Same technique except I baited out the dread fighters and sniped/mage FAYE'd them

Gargoyle man got murdered by Delthea

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>Going to kill Deen
>21 speed with Brave Sword
>Other enemy swords double everyone in the party
Killed them with magic while the others tanked but it took me off guard

>>377902840
Sacred Stones
Light and Shadow