Fuck HITMAN

>>377890041
It was Squeenix you mongrel

>>377890179
your prescious franchise went to shit. its finished. maybe 10 years from now it will get another reboot lol

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>>377890248
yeah okay

2016 was the best game in the franchise anyways

>>377890587
today it was confirmed CANCELLED

>>377890041
Well no shit, Ive been a fan since the first one and this one was the first i skipped because of the shit series model. Fuck them.

>>377890643
Source or bullshit.

>>377890643
layoffs =/= season 2 cancelled

>>377890778
they thought they were gonna milk fans dry. instead of fucking fans over they got fucked by the big black cock

BLACKED

FEEL FREE TO PIRATE THE whole game on piratebay by CPY....but be warned. FPS are very low and game has no story also PS2 tier controls

>>377890864
>Your publisher sells you off
>Your lay off your staff
>Implying they have the capacity to do anything other than try to stay afloat

i hope they didnt sack the guy who did the mirrors in the game

>>377890041
>>Devs uses the most anti-consumer release model in the history of gaming + 3 DRMs'

Are you really so mentally challenged that you actually believe that the DEVELOPER came up with that? It was 100% Square-Enix.

entirly their fault, if they had shipped a normal game and dropped the episodic shit then everything would be fine
whenever a episodic game comes out just means an extra year before i buy or pirate.
works for some games like life is strange but not a stealth game

>>377890041
Yes, because that was the devs fault and not the publisher's. You're a moron.

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Not sure how to feel about this game

On one hand, it's much better than Absolution and closer to BM

On the other hand, we had to wait for a year to get the complete thing and it has always online DRM

Why is the industry so messy nowadays

>>377891086
By them you mean Square right?
You know, the guys that forced this shit upon them and then dropped IO like it was their fault that people didn't take to it?

Whoever thought making "episodic" releases is a moron.
Didn't it ever crossed their minds that people would think;
"oh the game isn't finished yet? episode 2 coming out soon?"
"guess I better wait for all episodes to be released before buying"

Who the fuck wants to buy an incomplete game, this isn't the fucking walking dead.

>Squeenix running a burn operation on IO to cover their fuckups

>>377890179
>>377891080
>>377891140
>>377891272
>Publisher "forces" them to use a shitload of DRM
>Sells off the studio instead of admitting they fucked up
Sure

>>377891036

>I'm now remembering that Interplay technically still exists as that one fuckhead in his closet

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>>377891327
the best thing about it is that the game runs at 15fps less than its supposed to

also all these drm are useless. pirates purchased $4 family shares and still played always online and downloaded each new episode each month

>>377890041
>>Devs uses the most anti-consumer release model in the history of gaming + 3 DRMs'
Publisher
>>get BLACKED so hard that now their Dev studio is FINISHED
Due to publisher pressure
>>this Dev studio is now considered a liability
To the publisher

>>377891327
Ever heard of the term scapegoat? Just how naive are you?

>short as fuck
>released in 7 parts

yeah they deserve it.

B-but the final fantasy vii remake follows the same release model...

>>377891086
>If they had infinite resources the game would've been fully released and not episodic
>Publisher is just a sugar daddy that drops money for free in any amount you wish demanding nothing except finished product
>communism will work in post-scarcity world!
Retard.

>>377891470
Yeah and everyone who's not paid is pissed off.
>I mean yeah, we totally could release a whole game in 1997, but that's not possible anymore :)

>>377891470
>another JRPG amongst the hundreds

maybe it will work coz only hardcore fans will bother with that

>>377891435
This

>>377891286
>Who the fuck wants to buy an incomplete game
Really?

>>377891286
>guess I better wait for all episodes to be released before buying
They don't even do that. They just fucking forget about it entirely unless the first episode is such a PR generating hype machine that it never leaves the public consciousness.

>>377890179
inb4 disney is talking with squeenix so that they buy the company, but also they need to eliminate all of the adult theme franchises

>>377890041
Io-Interactive did nothing wrong you piece of shit same with Eidos Montréal and Deus Ex. It was the publisher SE that fucked up those games.

>>377891665
Yes, really.
How did that turn out for them, huh?

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Squeenix really fucked them hard. Sucks to be them but what can you do, I'm not going to buy episodic always online, limited lifespan game, even if it's better than Thiaf or nu DX rape. Enjoy your closed servers, I guess.

>>377890041
Let them serve as an example for this fucked up industry. Unbelievable...

>Wanting IO Interactive to lose their IP to Squeenix because Squeenix forced shitty practices on them
>Wanting Hitman to fail permanently because you're bitter about piracy

>>377890041
BUT DENUBO INCREASES SALES
BUT MUH 3 TRILLION PC SALES
NOOOOOOOOOOO WE'RE NOT HACKED.COM SHUT UP!

>hating on the best game in Hitman series
/v/ is so fucking retarded

>>377891846
>best
>npcs dont even react to blood marks
>not even finished
>6 levels
>no sniper case
>retarded AI
lmao kys. blood money is the best undisputed

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>>377891846
absolution was better

op here. I played them all

and the best was Blood Money

i know my shit son

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probably Sony will buy IO and force them to release a full game with an actual story and better controls / mission structure

>>377891934
>probably Sony will buy IO and force them to release a full game with an actual story and better controls / mission structure

I hope so, my man.

>>377891305
That's probably what happened. FFXV didn't make as much money as they wanted and is probably a much bigger flop than they present it as. IO and Hitman are low priority, low profit enterprises even if they are profitable, so they get axed to cover the costs and maintain the illusion that Square's flagship franchise is still alive.

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>>377891767
>Deus Ex
>Fucked

>>377891934
>>377892093
Squeenix is keeping the Hitman IP almost certainly, they'd frankly be stupid not too. I don't know what the hell you could honestly hope for.

Also
>absolution better than anything

>>377892190
It's on an indefinite break because MD sales were slightly below expectations.

>>377892248
>It's on an indefinite break because MD sales were slightly below expectations.
Denuvo reduces sales confirmed?

>>377892248
>It's on an indefinite break because MD sales were slightly below expectations.
I imagine their analysts can accurately guess the sales they'll get, and so they lower their sales expectations prior to release to mask a huge flop as a small one.

FFXV is a good example, which Square celebrating that it cleared a five million mark. This is Final fucking Fantasy.

>>377892186
I find this very believable, honestly. When a game is still considered a failure after 5 million sales, something's fucked up somewhere.

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>>377892248
>they'd frankly be stupid not too

maybe they should sell it because they dont have the business mind to handle it. it got too big for them

Hideo should buy HITMAN or Ubisoft and use their Splinter Cell devs to unfuck Hitman

>>377891397
Didn't the debt collectors get ambushed by hungry cannibals in Interplay's HQ?

>>377892248
>>377892319
Not entirely because of sales, I think. They re-purposed Eidos to work on the new Avengers game instead because that's basically a license to print money.

>>377892248
Also the fact that the new Deus Ex was half finished and full of micro transactions.

>>377892248
I wonder if Enix will learn from MD and hitman.

Probably not, they'll go off and do what other big publishers do and just shut the studios and hold on the ip for another couple of years and reboot it or leave it in the closet forever

>>377891156
Only 6 levels + tutorial isn't a complete game, even if the maps are really good (except for Colorado).

Can I pirate it yet? last game I played was blood money on XBOX

>>377892447
Square isn't capable of learning from its mistakes.

>>377890041
serves them right for all the shit they tried to pull.
forcing always online and online unlocks in a singleplayer game is the first in the list

>>377892443
>full of micro transactions
I played the game and didn't even know about them, please elaborate.

All you idiots taking the bait, jesus fucking crist.
If cancer would be stupidity, this board woud be six feet under in no time

>Anti consumer

You pirate fags really are the most cretinous dumbasses around aren't you?
DRM is there to stop people stealing the product, which protects legitimate people who paid money for it like they supposed to if they want to play it.
That's not anti consumer at all, it's pro consumer.

Pirates are not consumers.
>But muh always online
Shouldn't be having trouble being online in ths day and age
>But muh episodic
And?
>But muh denuuuuuvo
Protecting their product.

>>377892693
i love supping on denuvo shill bootlicker tears

it's like the election all over again

>>377892671
You can purchase credits / praxis credits with irl money, and the shitty Breach mode that no one cared about has loot boxes.
Both allegedly at the insistence of Squeenix.

>>377892693
>which protects legitimate people who paid money for it
Haven't pirated since ~2010 and you're wrong, it protects the companies and their revenue. I have no issues with DRM which works just fine, but going back to old unpatched Games for Windows Live games nowadays is a huge pain in the ass.

>>377892813
Wasn't the DLC also only good for one playthrough?

>>377892813
How can you claim it's full of microtransactions when it's possible to beat the game without knowing about them. And what kind of retard do you have to be to pay for praxis points, the game throws them at you for free constantly?

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>>377892693
This is the most obvious bait I've seen since last Tuesday. Embarrassing lack of effort desu

>>377892771
I dunno, he makes solid points, where are yours?

>>377892860
I'm not the one who claimed the game is full of them to be fair, just telling you where they are.

>>377892858
Not sure I understand your meaning. Like, was the DLC only worth playing through once? Pretty much, if that's what you mean.

>>377892693
>which protects legitimate people who paid money for it
Makes no sense. My ability to purchase and play a game is not impacted in any way by some poor Ukrainian fuck getting to play the game for free.

>>377892693
I exclusively pirate Denuvo games. Never buy them later.

Not the case for Denuvo-free games, though. I even buy it full price if I really like it. How do you feel about it?

>>377892904
Denuvo works by calling home once in a while. If it can't connect to the authentication server once every few days, you don't have a game. That server WILL get abandoned eventually, that's not even an "if". You better fucking hope everything is either cracked by then or has denuvo patched out, because otherwise your precious DRM will literally kill games.

>>377892771
Not quite as glorious as the election but it is nice to see shills of any kind whine in impotent rage

>>377892858
Basically, yeah. They're not even part of the main game and are separate altogether, so you can't even play those DLCs as an overpowered mech unless you cheat.

>>377892976
No, I heard at release that the pre-order DLC was only available for one playthrough and then you'd have to buy it again.

>>377893116
"I heard at release" is a great source, must be true.

>>377893174
There were entire threads about it, so if it was a hoax it was a pretty convincing one.

>>377892693
Somebody with a brain and a job spotted.
All these butthurt thieves mad they can't play for free and then they complain that games are dumbed down to sell to the masses.

>>377891156
I played 122 hours and didnt even tried to 100% anything at all, just played until I got bored, this is pretty good for a modern game imo.

>>377892693
>>But muh always online
>Shouldn't be having trouble being online in ths day and age

that cost microsoft a generation

>>377890948
you're such a fuckhead

>>377893186
Threads on /v/? Whoah, that's almost as reliable as Wikipedia!

>>377893062
Kinda the price you pay for tech allowing pirating. Who's at fault? The pirates.

Io already confirmed that season 2 is still in development

>>377893116
Oh yeah, that. The consumables can only be used once (the devs called it "first party constraints" which means "Squeenix wants to charge you money for these things with microtransactions") but the guns and stuff are for every playthrough.

>>377893294
No, I won't pay anything because I will never buy a single game from a publisher who would allow something like that. If your business plan involves shutting the product down at your leisure, you can fuck right off.

>>377893289
Already been confirmed in this thread, shill.

>>377890041
Meh, what are ya gonna do?

>>377890041
Unfortunately as is typical in this horrid industry, the cunts with the money will learn all the wrong lessons from this and blame all the things Hitman did right on its failure.

>>377892981
You won't enjoy not having a sequel because non-poor people who could pay didn't.

>Devs uses the most anti-consumer release model in the history of gaming + 3 DRMs
The episodic format actually worked to the game's benefit and having the game be always online is necessary for the elusive targets.

>>377893294
No, I'm pretty sure the company who builds planned obsolescence into their software is at fault.

>>377891745
>They don't even do that.
i planned to buy hitman when it's fully released.
but i don't even know if it's fully released yet.
and now that i had waited for so long,
im waiting for a game of the year edition,
but i will definitely forget to check on it,
so i won't know when it's out either.
and when it's out, i will be waiting for it to be on sales because i had been waited for so long too.
and when it's on sales,
the game already aged like milk and i don't even touch it from a miles away

>>377893471
It's complete and printed on a fucking disc now you mong.

>>377892186
>FFXV didn't make as much money as they wanted and is probably a much bigger flop than they present it as.
Wouldn't be surprising. Square Enix continues pushing Final Fantasy in directions fans are not interested in. 16 needs to go back to the basics like 9 did.

>>377892841
>it protects the companies and their revenue

Not really, since you can still pirate it.

>>377893190
>games are dumbed down to sell to the masses.
>shitman 2016
>not dumb
>npcs dont react to blood pools
kys faggot

>>377893440
>is necessary for the elusive targets
Probably about as necessary as SimCity's always online functionality.

>>377893445
And they do that because why? Pie rats.
You people are as fucking dumb and selfish as I would expect.

>>377893548
>It's complete and printed on a fucking disc now
oh good.
when will it be on sales?
i'm not buying an old game for full price.

>>377890041
Who fucking cares, not like they will be homeless. They will get jobs really fucking easy.

These are highly paid and skilled people in a booming industy, fucking hell.

>>377893601
It's necessary to prevent people from gaming the elusive target system by changing their system clock or editing save files.

SimCity 2013's always online was pointless, yes, but Hitman's always online is justifiable in-game.

>>377893560
That wasn't my point

>>377893606
I'm pretty sure it's already discounted right from when the disc version was released. I got the entire package for half price.

>>377893062
>you, you, your

ey man, i don't like denuvo either but I believe everyone has a chance to explain their shit, cool it with the assumptions.

>>377892465
it's designed differently to other hitman games, its disingenuous to be like merrh only 6 maps.

>>377893606
Ask Squeenix.
Knowing them it'll probably be a while though.

>>377893669
Hitman's always online really only prevents bogus scores on the leaderboards. I don't think any other gameplay related explanation stands up to reason.

>>377893669
If people want to manipulate a single player game they bought by tweaking the system clock, that's their own damn business.

Are you fagbois really happy about this?

Yes, the always online DRM was shit and the episodic content was questionable but Hitman 2016 is still THE BEST Hitman game in the series.
If this means that the series is dead then it's a sad moment for gaming.

>>377891934
>Absolution was better

Fuck off you moron.

>>377893382
>>377893445

>Denuvo is specifially designed to fight piracy
>somehow pirates aren't at fault

ok

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>>377890041
47 did his job and even managed to kill his own studio in the process

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>>377891156
Crony capitalism. If only industry was more consumer friendly and less aggressive, it could blossom and prosper. So many awesome franchises and studios went into shit, and it makes me soo mad that publishers and corps get away with it, no public backlash, no public criticism, nothing. Fucking heck.

>>377893605
>Get fucked by corporation
>Blame it on an invisible boogeyman

>>377893669
>gaming the elusive target system by changing their system clock or editing save files
I forget, was there some multiplayer competitive aspect to elusive targets? Because other than that, it sounds a lot like it's just there to try and enforce noncheating on single player content by forcing you to always have an internet connection regardless of if you were doing that particular part of the game. Which sounds like a bad trade.

Hell, not even really cheat protection, but simply preventing you from ever accessing the content if you didn't have the game by a certain point.

>>377893802
then it's the other people's business to stop those people, see how it works?

>>377893385
Point me to the post that gives a source.

>>377893906
somebody make a shop of post mission statistics with io interactive as a main target kek.

>>377893945
>Stop
Why? Because of some leaderboards nobody has, is or will ever give a shit about?

It's a single player game. Tying it to an online connection is a sin. The end.

>>377893932
>>377893945
It's not even that much of a cheat protection since you can disconnect your internet if you fuck up an ET and want a redo.

>>377893986
Not him but enjoy your source
https://www.vg247.com/2016/08/24/before-redeeming-your-deus-ex-mankind-divided-pre-order-bonus-you-need-to-know-this/

>>377893945
No, that doesn't work like that.

>>377892248
>Squeenix is keeping the Hitman IP almost certainly
they aren't. IOI will keep all their IPs

>>377894142
it does if it's tied to online where other people's scores are at stake. Believe or not but some ppl care about that.

>>377894114
I thought we were talking about proper DLC and not some easy mode weapon upgrades. Whatever, guess if someone is dumb enough to pay for that they get what they deserve. If it was story DLC or something else substantial I'd have a problem with it.

Man, Piracy used to be the cool, I don't give a fuck route.

Sucks now that self-righteous, preachy, agenda pushing cunts have taken hold of it as a "statement".

>>377894025
you underestimate people's desire to be the best, some may even cheat their way up.

>>377893025
you're fucking retarded

>>377893945
Not really? The only real reason it's there is to prevent people from accessing Elusive Targets when they're not supposed to, ie. we're cutting off content that has no inherent online or multiplayer component from single players because we believe it can push a few sales by certain dates.

This isn't some big MMO event or whatever. It's literally just missions you do on your own but are forced to only be able to normally play, or even attempt, once and only at a set date in real life. It's not some artsy-fartsy "oooh, look at how the interactive medium of videogaming can be twisted to tell a specific kind of narrative and blur the distinction between the player and the game, spooky" shit either.

>>377894271
Then have your scores not count for the leaderboards if you opt out of the online cheat checking thing. Again, the downsides to this, the whole never ever playing this shit again or at all if you missed it, severely out weigh any purported benefits of this enterprise.

Ultimately, what was the actual point of it?

>>377894236
Has that been verified yet? I thought it was completely speculative at this point.

>>377892319
More like having the single worst marketing and pre-order campaign I've ever seen hurts sales.

AUGMENT YOUR PRE ORDER

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I won you fucking retards.

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>>377894717
>he thinks his cute misinformative webm has damaged nuHitman.

here's your (You)

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>more people own Shitsolution than Blood Money
Steam was a mistake.

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>>377890041
Absolution was fucking trash, worst game in the series but anyone who says Hitman 2016 was bad is fucking mentally retarded child who never played any Hitman games and jumped on "blood money is the best" bandwagon because wants to fit in /v/.
2016 is the best Hitman game ever created, surpasses, the missions never were so well designed and we never had so many options, it's Blood Money 3.0 pretty much. It's a shame that /v/ is so autistic that can't see a good game behind Denuvo and Always online even when the game was fully cracked
But I guess /v/ prefers Absolution 2 because now that IO is gone and SE owns the franchise, this is what we're getting next. I guess you really enjoyed discount Uncharted that Tomb Raider has become too

>>377894717
That's some pretty realistic NPC reactions right there.

>>377894830
no shit when Absolution was sold for literally pennies
also people bought it wanting more after Blood Money

>>377894717
upload a video of you doing it instead of this shitty noiseless webm and i might take your shit seriously shitter.

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>>377894953
Blood Money was also sold for pennies ans had much more sales.

> people bought it wanting more after Blood Money
I don't think so, if they did they have brain damage.

>>377894836
I wish we had the mechanics of Blood Money included in 2016 though. Shit like blood splatter alerting NPCs, the sniper briefcase, the notoriety system would have also been pretty neat to have.

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>>377895073
>Using weapons
>Not doing Silent Assassin runs

>>377895073
They've been probably working on this and they still are i think considering they havent halted the season 2 development. You could see 47 with a briefcase in the leaked footage. There isn't a lot you can do when Squeenix doesn't have faith in you and gives u a shitty budget

>>377895328
Do you only do SA runs every time you play?

>>377895431
On the first ever run, no, but after you kind of want to get the best score in the game possible. Why settle for less?

>>377895518
I'm the opposite, I always strive for SA during my first few runs. Then, I just fuck around, knife only, guns blazing, explosives only, clutter only, shit like that. The score doesn't really matter and once I've achieved SASO, I consider myself having achieved the best already.

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>>377890041
>reading pcgamer in 2017

>>377890041
But it wasnt anti-consumer

>>377892465
colorado is pretty fucking cool, you meant morocco

>>377893832
yes, im happy always online drm and early access AAA wont spread to other series

>>377895073
I miss every room having light switches.

>>377894358
Cognitivedissonance.avi

>>377890041
Get fucked nu-shitman shills.
>denuvo
>episodic
>always online
Io deserve all of this shit for what they've done.

Will the layoffs all happen at once or will they be episodic?

>>377890041
>150 replies
>66 posters

die weeb and shill faggots

>>377894817
lol your franchise is fucking over you stupid cuck

>>377892860
>it's not microtransactions if you can finish without them
you stupid piece of shit
cash shops are cancer and putting them in single player games means you deserve to go under

How can anyone hate Hitman? Agent 47 and his adventures are fucking legendary. Even before I played the games I thought he's cool as shit

>>377896356
>how can anyone hate franchise with only 1 good game?
Gee I dunno

>>377896414
only 1 bad game* Fixed it for you, redditor

Even then Codename 47 isn't even that bad

>>377896461
Pretending Absolution doesn't exist there?

>>377896504
Absolution is good as a linear action stealth game

>>377896461
only 1 good game* Fixed it for you, shill
And you know it's Blood Money

>>377896539
Not really, I mean I can think of like 2 good levels in the whole thing. And by good I mean relatively good, they would probably be just okay if you ported the levels into Blood Money or HM16.

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huh

>>377896774
Remedy is next.

>>377891934
>an actual story

2016 had the best plot in the series though.

>>377896894
No, Silent Assassin did. 2016 is basically just ripping it off.

>A bunch of people are using us to collect pieces of a bigger puzzle

Is exactly what Sergei did.

>>377896774
>LOL
What does this mean?

>>377897019
where

>>377896894
>muh 1 minute end-of-level cutscenes of unconnected and confusing bullshit that will ALL COME TOEGTHER IN MUH SEASON 2 XD

no

>>377896969
2016 doesn't have filler in it's plot though, so that makes it automatically better. Plus, Sergei wasn't that memorable as a villain.

>>377897019
i o i

>>377897172
>looks like a crying emote
Pottery

Apparently, IO are still retaining the rights to Hitman according to a german magazine

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>>377897165
>2016 doesn't have filler in it's plot though, so that makes it automatically better

How the fuck does that follow?

Nobody cares.

Thief and Splinter Cell are the only good stealth games.

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Mickey Gall=Pirates and real Hitman fans
CM Punk=Shitman episode fans

>>377890041
Seasons were cool, you fucking faglord. Fit the level design well as you have more of a reason to revisit locations until a new one was out

>Tribes: Ascend
>HITMAN
Why do publishers constantly feel the need to fix what isn't broken, ie single-purchase games with maybe DLC/expansions (expansions as in actual content and not just "heroes"/whatever or cosmetic bs). It fails 99 out of 100 times. Moreover why do that to good game series.

Still going to enjoy this when I get round to it though.

>>377890041
Devs aren't publishers you moron.

Between this, FFXV and the new Deus Ex, how the hell could you miss that it's Squeenix who push terrible business practices?

IO made a great game wrapped up in a terrible service, they deserve better.

>>377897564
Getting away from Squeenix would be the best thing that could happen to Io.

>>377891435
>dev studio fucks up so badly that the publisher cant keep them on the payroll

>>377890948

>they thought they were gonna milk fans dry.

....but they provided free content every week.

The game wasn't even anymore expensive than a normal AAA release. You just had the option to buy it piecemeal if you felt like it.

I don't even see what the issue is.

>>377897649
IO did well actually.


The game sold well enough for them to move to a bigger office.

This is just Square trying to hide the fact that FFXV didn't break even.

>>377897784
>Move to a bigger office
>Lay off your staff
Does that make the office even bigger?

>>377897784

IO is a really odd studio for them to layoff.

Were they just concerned that the content roll-out was costing them too much money, or what? I thought Hitman sold above their expectations.

That being said, Square was pretty quick to nuke Deus Ex after DE:MK sold under par so I guess this should be expected.

>>377897751
Probably a cheap shill hired by Squeenix to damage control them after every developer under the sun has started to hate them.

>>377897784
It's funny because SE did the same thing when FFXIII trilogy released. They blamed all the Eidos games released those years instead of the FF team

It's like that one Dilbert strip where the manager says laying off the staff is the secret to be profitable

>>377897784
Fuck I HATE Nomura.
The only good thing about this is because he's fucked SE so royally with his shit, they're going to ensure he has an 'accident'.

>>377896882
Unlikely. If anything happens to them, they will got bought by Microsoft or Take Two.

>>377890948
are you ok?

>>377897519
>Why do publishers constantly feel the need to fix what isn't broken,
marketing teams made out of non-gamers, they see games as toys, and toys marketing tactics is about having a "NEW" fluo label on the box and targeting random people getting hooked at the cover in the game alley/steam instead of sustaining a stable userbase of regulars.

>>377898034
But why? Would it hurt their brand too much to pin the blame on Final Fantasy?

Surely if it's not doing well they'd sort that out.

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Who will be left for SquareEnix to blame when all their western studios are sold off?

How will they hide Final Fantasy's disastrous sales and bloated development costs then?

Do they start blaming Taito?

>>377897946
It's been said a few times - IOI was the only studio they *could* sell.
Eidos Montreal is worth diddly-squat.

SE is bleeding money after FFXV sold like garbage (because it was garbage) but they'll never blame a Japanese person where a westerner could take the fall.

>>377898096
>bought by Microsoft
Mircrosoft is the reason they went to shit.
Also they are scaling down their video game sector.

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>another shitty Western IP goes down the drain after Dudesex
Thank you, based Squeenix, Westcucks don't make good games anyway.

>>377898739
>implying Hitman isn't the best stealth franchise

Back to your waifu simulator, weeb.

>>377898146
Remember how the American Sega division doing well and actually suggesting smart business decisions put such a bug up the Japanese division's butt they pretty much single handedly sunk their company and killed their console production? It's like that. All giant companies have massive idiots at their head only disguised by the bags of money and overwork by the rest of the company to make up for it, but Japan's companies have a bread a particular kind of idiocy in this increasingly global corporate ecosystem: kneejerk loyalty to the Japanese branch above all else.

Japanese media producers still consider, for better or worse, any sales outside of Japan to be nice bonuses. It can be worth the investment, but they're not going to really dedicate much to it. It's still the home base that matters, even if in the grand scheme of things it begins to look really retarded to throw all these other resources under the bus to prop up a homegrown failure. Every so often it looks like things might be changing, or this or that company willing to give some attention or focus to the larger market, but fundamentally the corporate forces are still the same.

>>377898940
>best stealth franchise
That title belongs to Tenchu, Western trash doesn't even come close.

>>377898739
This, Some western studio got shitanned so what? It's not like west makes any good games or something.

>>377898154
They'll blame Enix.

>>377898940
That would be Splinter Cell, which also has been ruined by two terrible games in succession.
Publisher meddling keeps killing good game series.

>>377890041
Stop being a butthurt 3rd worlder pirate.

>>377898154
They will go fullcircle and blame Square for Spirits Within for Final Fantasy's current demise.

>>377899040
West games outsell japanese games.

>>377892465
>Only 6 levels + tutorial isn't a complete game,

GTA V has only one level + tutorial

>>377891820
instead they will lose the IP because the studio is going under
>inb4 EA stands first in line for it

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>>377899183
Sure they do, cuck, sure they do.

>>377892392
>Ubisoft
>not fucking everything up besides siege
>HITMAN: The story of a blacktrancis woman who needs to take down the united the united states president Ronald Plumpf, featuring the same open world model of every other game, always online (uplay required) and day 1 microtransactions

>>377891425
>the game runs at 15fps less than its supposed to

You mean it's supposed to run at 30fps? On my PC the game literally runs at 15fps on lowest settings. And my PC can run D44M at 100fps.

>>377891327
in what universe does that not sound like exactly what a publisher does?

>>377892693
Adam Orth how do you still afford internet without a job?

>>377890948
You sound like you're legitimately 14 years old
Can't you just go away, to youtube comments or something

>>377893227
>a generation
more like the entire Xbox brand

>>377894717

The audience clearly thought it was a new type of performance art you fucking retard

>>377896138
I know, and I know it's not because of your shitty ass webm, ya shitter.

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>>377892392
>Hideo

If you're talking about Kojima, I wouldn't let that hack weirdo anywhere near good stealth games. He had two decades to make a passable stealth game, and he barely succeeded in the final installment before he was fired. Metal Gear is and has always been indistinguishable from something that simultaneously parodies stealth games and Japanese vidya.

>>377892392
Letting anyone other than IO near Hitman would result in Absolution 2

>>377897373
>Mickey Gall
>CM Punk
Who?

>>377890041
Not sure what they were expecting with how they handled the new Hitman game by releasing it like episodes, fucking morons deserve to be cut.

This is why I mostly lurk /v/ now, you're all fucking idiots.

>>377899598
whatever helps you sleep at night my retarded friend

>>377898132
Marketing was a mistake.

>>377894717
what's wrong with the webm? witnesses are going to alert the guards.

>>377895047
>>377894953
>>377894830
Blood Money came out in what, 2005? 2006? I have the game on disc since the release, why the fuck would I buy it again on steam?

>>377899367
>shitty clone of a mainsteream game sells worse
whoa no shit, nice cherrypicking weeb faggot

>>377899424
>black
>take down drumpf
>open world
>always online
>day 1 dlc
that's watch dogs 2 bro

>>377893669
so "elusive targets" things (whatever it is) is crucial to experience?

so why each time when i ask for complete game with elusive targets on them you always say they're not important?

>>377899718
straight up

>shallow imitation of Bloodmoney

There was a significant lack of small details. Fuck the devs.

Well at least all those people "waiting for the full game" can safely buy it in the next bargain bin sale knowing there wont be another episode or expansion coming.

>>377890041
>Op is entirely shitty memes
Fuck off back to where you came from

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>>377890948
/pol/ users literally cannot stop thinking about niggerdick

>>377900924
>inb4 someone mentions briefcases and lack of ability to push someone off the stairway

probably the only legit details missing from the game, you have a lot more freedom in 2016 hitman T B H F A M

>>377900672
deus ex MD vs new Zelda lmao how about that west cuck

>>377890041
haha can't blame pirates for destroying hitman, it was buyfags not buying enough hahaah suck it fags

>>377901132
the fuck, why would you compare these two? MD has japanese cancer publisher that was the source of most problems of the game (besides SJW writing I guess)

>>377900934
I like how this was stated by many people prior to and during the development cycle, then after all was said and done, these people definitely turned out to be the correct ones. I'm enjoying this developers demise, they should have negotiated a better contract. You reap what you sow.

I pirated this game.

>>377895828

god morocco was dogshit

>>377899020
The last good Tenchu game was Watch of Heaven and that was 14 years ago, buddy.

>>377901354
idk why everyone hated marrakesh, the only reason is usually "it's bad"
colorado had nonsensical disguise system (soldier, explosive expert soldier, elite soldier, super elite soldier, swat suit soldier, 1337 hacker) and social stealth is the best thing about hitman

>>377901363
>It came out when you were a child.

for fucks sake, we need a new Tenchu.

>>377901363
*Wrath of Heaven

>>377901245
They're only as right as the people who never buy new anyway. Now they get to play a dead game everyone else played months ago. Might save 40 bucks though.

Don't worry about missing out on the ETs, novelty wore off real quick on what were essentially just shitty mods.

>>377892693
Says the retard defending drm.
There is literally no reason why games shouldnt be free,

>Still can't unlock the sweater from the training level as an outfit

Fucking why not?

From somene who didn't play it but watched the gameplay I gotta say though that despite the selling model the final product is a highly detailed game that I enjoyed discovering to the finest details, the Italy level was superbe

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>>377890041
>people are losing their only source of income, leading to trying months in the future
>deserved it because their publisher released their game weird

>>377901527
I bought the game, ET weren't worth the money, tedious and more filler then anything./

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>>377902119
>I didn't play it
>I enjoyed discovering to the finest details

>>377902145
>not also hustling 3 share economy side gigs while retraining to be a robot repairman+coder

Wow they do basically deserve homelessness

>>377902145
Negotiate better in talks then, this is entirely the developers fault. There were multiple publisher offers.

>developer is responsible for sales model
>developer is responsible for DRM

Is everyone on /v/ a retarded /r/gaming/ reject or just 10 years old?

When will Squeenix realize that Final Fantasy just isn't the draw it was 10 years ago. You can't spend that much money on FF games and hope to make big profits like they did before.

>>377902395
>they dindunothing they are still my e-friends don't bully them they can't defend themself alright you Nazi
genZ was a mistake.

>>377890041
it peaked with BM who fucking cares?

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I pray it stays dead forever now at least instead of trying again to turn it into a bland cinematic action game like Absolution

>>377902395
I bet you think Maxis' failure is due to EA and not the fact that Maxis hired themselves into a corner

>publisher does something retarded
>devs get fucked for it
>HAHAHA FUCK DA DEVS XD WOOOOOOO I AM 12!!!!!!!
Wow.

>>377895328
One shot one kill is Silent Assassin. The only problem is that for some reason 47 doesn't pick up his brass.

>>377902850
I don't think the publsiher forced them to design the game around shitty controllers and don't even include BASIC mechanics from the previous games.

>>377902467

It's not that Final Fantasy isn't a big draw it's just that Squares business model is pants on head retarded and jewish.

For example, FFXV. To get the full experience and even understand the fucking characters or story you needed the $60 game, the movie, the anime. You had to shell out $100+ just to fully understand the fucking game for no reason other than to make people give them money.

>>377897605
They won't keep the IP tho. The best we can hope for is a less retarded publisher picks them up and we can get MURDERMAN 2020 with all the same basic mechanics.

>>377895840
>he thinks Square and other major publishers will stop adding DRM to games

I wish I was this naive.

>>377902850
>PUBLISHER forced them not to include sniper case
>PUBLISHER forced a retarded story of le epic brother muh vengeance

>>377891156

Yeah I wonder (((who))) could be behind it all.

>>377894717
>WHY AREN'T MEN WITH GUNS TELEPORTING TO MY POSITION IMMEDIATELY THIS SHIT IS SO UNREALISTIC

>>377895328
>>377902870
Not even that.
You can get Silent Assassin while shooting infinite bullets ever since Contracts.

You can even use loud weapons and still get Silent Assassin if you do it right.

"Don't use guns lelelel" is pretty stupid. I mean, melee/accidents only playthroughs are very skillful, but given the amount of ridiculous shit that you can do with silenced guns, they also have their place in the games.

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>>377903364
>Denuvo v4 already being cracked in less than a month
>Spending money to prevent losing potential money
Wish i was retarded enough to be an executive

>>377903548
btw new cpy hint
>freagging finally

>>377903604
Dishonored 2?

>>377903647
maybe or total war warhammer

why are you all so retarded? are you joking? it's not funny

>>377898146
They can't publicly blame FF because it's their flagship IP, and probably the biggest earner they have in the Japanese market (which is what they care most about). So it's easier for them to just cannibalise other dev studios to keep the big budget FF series alive.

That sucks, their last hitman game was really, really good.

I can't play this thing on my rig
and I play almost everything on low to mid
their minimum graphical settings are pretty much overkill for me, so it is still sitting on my library
the price is beyond ridiculous: who is going to pay 8e for a 1 hour campaign

>>377891156

I liked it a lot but I waited until after all the episodes were released for me to play it. Which is why I didn't mind the episodic content because it didn't feel episodic to me.

>>377899367
>non-denuvo
>denuvo
Yeah, it's because western games sell less

>finally a great hitman
>ruined by triple drm and episodic format

it hurts

>>377890041
>game was very, very good in the end
>studio is kill because it didn't hit the 3 millions dollars required to break those graphics even
>"justice was served"

And that's why westacuck games are shit. The model was fine for Hitman and you could just wait for the final S1 release if you didn't like it anyway.

>>377890041
Ff7 is following the same model

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>>377890643

>>377890041
Yeah, but that's not the full story.

Hitman EP1 made as much money as projected. This is however Square Enix, and since their japanese shit flops whole the time they expect ex-eidos franchises to pull them out. Hitman didn't do so, so it got axed.

Don't even ask the question whether it makes sense or not - it doesn't, it's just SE being Japanese EA.

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>>377891470

Who is even going to buy it after that disaster that was FFXV, aka, 'the worst open game ever made'?

You have to be a special kind of tard to dish your money on Final Fantasy VII.

>>377892693
fuck you i bought this game and can't even unlock all content because i wait few months
fuck you
captcha services sony, i hope sony will never do the same
oh wait they want do the same with FinalFantasy Remake

>make episodic model
>are surprised when people don't waste money on it

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>>377890041
>ill buy it when its finished
>i aint paying full price for a 2 year old game.

>>377890041
>episodic
>elusive targets
>always online
Fuck this game, all of these kept me from buying this

Don't lock me out of content in a single player experience because I didn't feel like playing that week if you expect me to buy your damn game

>>377909978
The elusive targets are optional, low effort shit that don't give you much in the long run.

Do you also complain about MMOs having timed events?

>>377910195
I don't give a shit if it's optional. I bought the game, give me the damn missions

>>377910385
Like I said, it's barely a mission.

Only about 4 of the 20+ ETs so far have actually been good and change the level in a significant way. The permanent content is far superior.

>>377910385
You don't want the missions. Most of them are easily worse than escalations or contracts.

>guy with a couple bodyguards wanders between a couple set points looping forever
>some targets walk by or interact with something to accident kill him otherwise out comes the poison syringe

If they have to either shut down or stop working on the game, I hope they remove the always online bullshit prior to shutting down the company or project.

Adding in all the previous targets would be nice as well, but I'd rather them just remove the DRM/Online shit because I'd hate for the game to be unplayable once the servers shut down.

I literally will not ever understand how Denuvo actually prevents anything, what's stopping literally anyone from just editing all the JZE's to JE's trough ollydbg or, fuck it, even just JMPing to the launch and avoiding the entire thing in general?

>>377890041

Was that the game that had like six missions total in the whole game?

>>377912237
11 that took an hour each, not counting replays, actually.

>>377912513

That's on 11 unique maps?

>>377913138
Yes. Why does the number of maps matter anyway? Absolution had 20 and 18 of them were trash.

>>377890041
why do you keep repeating this thread when we all know that IO got fucked by squeenix? are you really so subhuman that you cannot figure out who decides to put denuvo on a title? have you seriously considered suicide?

>>377913201
>Yes. Why does the number of maps matter anyway?

Because a mission that reuses a map doesn't count as an actual mission.

>>377913783

>GTA only has one mission.

What did he mean by this?

>>377913838

GTA is a 0/10 shit game for Chads.

Is this the ultimate proof that /v/ will ignore quality games for the sake of being whiny?

>>377914609

It is ultimate proof that /v/ will ignore games that have Denuvo.

Except for that one game with the robot girl's naked ass. That one gets special treatment for some reason.

>>377914609
how so?

>>377898967
> doesn't know about Saturn launch
> doesn't know about abandoning dreamcast for xbox

>>377914609
but we dont ignore yakuza

>>377914870
>>377915171
Let me correct him.

/v/ will ignore quality games that aren't Japanese.

>>377891156
>People go out and buy game with always online BS and 3 forms of DRM
>people complain about always online and DRM, but still buy the game
>company says "Who gives a shit, they are still buying the game."
Everyone who buys games with always online and retarded DRM is responsible. Remember Microsoft's position on the Xbox360's kinect thing? How it was 100% a part of the system and could NOT be removed no matter what? People didn't buy, the company bent over backwards to get rid of the offending technology. The exact same thing would happen with always online and DRM if you morons would quit giving them money.

Man, I already boycotted SE after what they did with the always online, but right now I should find a way to actively damage them.

>>377915569
Quit crying you salty pirate.

>>377915372

If it's such a good game, why was it released episodically with intrusive DRM? Checkmate.

>>377915892

Go fuck yourself. You're killing the industry every time you buy one of these anti-consumer games. They deserve no support, no money at all. Even if the game is the best game ever made, it deserves to crash and burn if it's "always online" or has Denuvo, and Shitman had BOTH.

>>377891036
How the fuck do you think they'll stay afloat if not by selling software?

>>377916194
>"You're killing the industry!!"
>Says the pirate who doesn't pay for anything anyway and is the reason DRM he despises exists

>>377916372

I pay for games that don't have DRM. I pirate games that do.

>>377916460
Keep telling yourself that.

>>377916068
Because the publishers didn't give the devs any other option.

Also Hitman is one of the few franchises where an episodic release structure isn't bad, because it's not story focused, is about replay value,and each mission is self-contained.

>>377901474
Marrakesh has so much unrealised potential so people are disappointed in it not delivering said potential.
For example: starting the riot between protesters and the military, the military man travelling the market for poison kills, and the general underuse of the market area.

>>377899428
That doesn't add up. I can't run doom at 100 Fps and I can easily get 60-80 Fps in hitman in levels that aren't sapienza, and my computer is shit.

>>377916491
Keep telling himself he does something? What's implausible about someone pirating games with DRM and buying ones that don't?

>>377891327
>Publisher "forces" them to use a shitload of DRM
that's what happens though. it blows but SE puts denuvo on all their games.

>>377917071
Pirates always claim they buy games that deserve it, yet always find some excuse so that no game can ever deserve a purchase. Muh DRM is just at the top of the long list of excuses.

>>377890041
Justice is best served episodic.

Why are SE such morons on this?
They are selling one of their best assets that recently overperformed. Do they really think their company will hold by selling final fantasies?

>>377915892
I don't pirate, the last game I bought was STALKER. I stopped buying games so I wasn't supporting this crap.

Stop sucking corporate cock.