Who was in the wrong here?

>>377887424
He fucked that stripper once.And then he married her.

>>377887424
Michael. Just because you felt like shit for betraying your old fuckbuddy doesn't mean you should take it out on your family

One of them is some dumb bitch.

The other is a literal violent criminal who has killed people.

You tell me who is in the wrong.

>>377888096
The woman?

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>>377887424
Isn't the whole point of Michael's plotline that his entire family are shitlords just like him?

>>377888920
Pretty much.

He has the family he deserves.

>>377887424
Every protagonist in GTAV is a retard hypocrite piece of shit, just like every other Rockstar game protagonist for the last ten years.

>>377887424
Am I the only who felt like Micheal being played up as a psychopath and his family life falling apart was going to end in him killing his family?

>>377889165
It should have. That would've been fucking bomb as.

>>377889052
Even John Marston? Maybe in his early years, but I'd hardly call him a hypocrite during rdr game time. He accepts his past is part of who he is and sees himself as scumbag, and does a lot in the name of redemption.

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>>377889317
>Every GTAV protagonist
>John Marston

>>377889317

Marston and Jimmy from bully are anti hero's for sure

>>377889439
>just like every other Rockstar game protagonist for the last ten years.
Dont call someone out for not reading if you cant even finish one fucking sentence retard

>>377889317
The fact that he acts so judgemental and holier than though towards all those lowlifes even as he does their dirty work, waving off any mention of his own faults with "AH'M TRYIN TO BE A BETT'R MAN!" as he robs banks and guns down his fellows, purely for his own benefit, fits into that mold, yes.

He hemms and hawws about it, but at the end of the day he's no better than the men he holds himself morally above. So yeah, exactly like a GTAV protagonist.

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>>377889052
>Every protagonist in GTAV is a retard hypocrite piece of shit
Not Trevor, tho. Or Claude Speed.

>>377889568
Thanks for pointing that out, I thought I misread the post for a second

Michael, married a stripper. Cuck

>>377889439
>reading comprehension

>>377887424
Dan Houser for such terrible writing.

>>377889587
I never saw him as all that judgemental, but the more I think about it, he was a dick to snake oil man, dutch and Irish. I think his resentment of the government douches is justified though.

>>377889692
They did say GTA V and you went off about John Marston, lad. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>377889587
Every PC in any Rockstar game I played up until GTAV had a complete imbalance between character and player motivations.

>GTAIV
>Niko flees Yugoslavia in order to escape his life full of gangs and violence
>Immediately involves himself with more gangs and violence once arriving in USA
>Still acts like he's morally superior to other gangsters

At least in GTAV the characters are ENTERTAINING psychopaths. The PC's in other Rockstar games just come off as assholes.

>>377889651
Claude wasn't in GTAV and how is Trevor not a hypocrite? Motherfucker was planning with Brad to take out Michael at the end of the Yankton job. He admits as much to Wade when they're driving to Los Santos.

>>377889809
how about you finish the sentence moron


Stop embarrassing yourself

>>377889748
fits the tone of the game. it's fine.
you're an idiot expecting shakespeare.

>>377889830
He had to, to find the traitor from his past life

>>377889809
Dense and retarded?
A dangerous combination.

>>377889861
Marston is still a shit character.

>>377887424
Micheal did nothing wrong

>>377889889
>had to

He could've done whatever the fuck he wanted lmao, he WANTED to find the traitor

>>377889830
>Still acts like he's morally superior to other gangsters
How so? I can only remember him placing himself 'higher' in the sense of being loyal but I don't think Niko gave other gangsters flak for being gangsters.

>>377890046
It wasn't like he gave them flak IIRC, he just kinda treated them with general disdain.

>>377889851
He's not a hypocrite in regards to his free roam actions and his general attitude. There's no disconnect between going on murderous rampages and the character show in cutscenes.

>>377889861
>>377889891

You sure are shitting yourself trying to save face on an anonymous webzone, when you know fairly well you fucked up. Check yourself, nigger.

>>377890138
Not all of them, I think. He was alright with Dwayne, Playboy, Packie and his family except for the cop.

>>377890156
Ah, you've a point there and I completely agree. Trevor, whether you like him or not as a character, has GTA written into his character and it does feel great. I would say the same goes for Johnny in TLAD but Luis had an even bigger disconnect than Niko did.

>>377890232
What is their to check you thought he was talking solely about GTA and ignored the latter part of his sentence fuck off


Its two different people but you're not gonna believe it anyway

>>377890232
I'm not even the guy you think """"fucked up""""
I can just see that you have the reading comprehension of a six year old

>>377889830
Niko came to Liberty City for a better life, because Roman kept telling him how great it was. Then Roman was the one who got him caught up in the gangs again and Niko learned the man who betrayed him was in Liberty City. Towards the end with Kate, Niko seems happy to have finally found a girl to settle down with, then she or Roman dies ruining everything.

>>377889996
Niko says that he joined because it was all life had prepared for him after the war nor does he hurt anyone who deserves it besides gracie who was a drug addled whore. He never says that he is above all the violence and betrayal but realizes that that is the way of the world and if he could stop it he would but between getting chased by the mob or police/government he really had no choice

>>377889830
Niko did nothing wrong.

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>Never sleep with a hooker
>Never seen sleeping with a hooker
>Michael's infidelity is brought up more than once

>>377890407
Ahhh okay, to be honest I couldn't remember the plot that clearly. Thanks for clearing that up.

I still reckon that game took itself far too seriously.

>>377890524
He banged a hooker prior to the game starting, that's the only thing that Amanda's mad about and using to justify her sleeping with every guy she sees. Your behavior as Michael only affects those therapy sessions and some of the intro he gets when you switch to him.

>>377890524
It happens if you go to a stripclub anyways is it so hard to believe that a man with that much power would not cheat?

>most amusing Michael scenes are him shitposting at his family
>they fuck off for pretty much the entire back half

Rockstar really needs to work on making likable characters.

>>377890632
I like most Rockstar protags.

>>377890632

I liked 90% of their protags

>>377890713
>>377890756
I like the one that comes from a troubled past and is trying oh so hard to be good but finds that they need to fall back to crime in order to blah blah blah

>>377890632
I like the one who is forced into killing for his life in a jig-saw-esque scenario

>>377890854

The bast part is while their backstory might be the same, all of them are 100% unique and intresting characters

>>377890407
I fucking hated how you lose kate no matter what. I just picked Roman to live, because he forgives you and still hangsout with you. Kate is a dumb whore and won't answer your calls.

>>377890941
FUCK YOU KATE IS NOT A DUMB WHORE SHE ONLY WANTS WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU

>>377890941
I had a glitch happen where I could still date Kate even after she died, for some reason. I only had her appear from the clinic/hospital that she works at and not at her house anymore. I also didn't have anymore dialogue because I exhausted them all but shit was surreal as fuck.

>>377890941
cousin, let's go bowling

F O R E V E R

>>377891329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxMLVlspD1Y
Still listening to it.

>>377889052

Not every protagonist, Franklin is just bland.

>>377889439
>Arin Poster
Of course you're retarded

>>377891415
He's boring as fuck, and Rockstar seems to know it, because he had the least missions and content in the game.

>>377887583
this. dont have kids with whores. and marry them no less.

>>377887424
Me for buying this shit game.

>>377888516
always.

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Too bad that most plebs didn't realize how moddable GTA V was.

I had more pleasure modding and creating mods for GTA V than a game with "proper" mod support like Fallout 4.

>>377893372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_441wv4FKm4

>>377889052
>game full of hypocrites
Pretty realistic description of American city and its denizens.

>>377890632
Vince Vance was pretty cool. His shenanigans with his brother were hilarious, especially in the first mission
>Time for a last Vance dance!
>LAAAAAAAAAAAAAANCE YOU PRICK

>>377889052
what's your point?

>>377893462

Tell me of a mod that'll make it fun to play

>>377887424
You, for playing this shit game

>>377893896
The vanilla game

>>377894008

Its boring as fuck though, if I wanted to deal with family issues all day, run in the park, ride bike with my kids I'd not be playing video games.

>>377893462
Is that a zombie mod?

>>377889052
How was Tommy Vercetti a hypocrite? Or Claude for that matter. They were both career criminals and didn't apologize for it.

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>>377893896
>spoonfeed me

Doesn't work like that Billy.

>>377894138

>make a claim
>can't even remotely back it up

It indeed doesn't work, yes.

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>>377894154
>i-i still want to be spoonfed !

Still doesn't work like that Billy.

>>377894237

Ok anon you can calm down now and enjoy your shitty pleb-pleaser.

>>377891415
>>377891465
He's supposed to be the straight man compared to Michael and Trevor, but he comes across as a whiny bitch.

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>>377893372
>>377893432
>>377893493

I get that Michael's supposed to be a piece of shit, but we never really see him do anything but act with his family's best interests in mind. He doesn't ever fuck over his wife or children, despite them giving him endless amounts of shit like he is.

>waaah you smashed the tv that you bought for me
>waaah you won't let me humiliate myself on shitty television shows
>waaah you won't let me fuck anybody but you

Like come on

>>377894363
I really fucking hated his family, and I was really hoping that the end of the game was going to be Michael telling them all to kick rocks and becoming his own man again.

>>377890232
Wait. I'm confused
>Guy says all of X sucks just like Y
>Guy says Y doesn't always suck
>Random shitposter tells people they can't read for not completely disregarding Y

How the fuck does that make sense?

>>377894363
Going back to that whole life of crime thing could be seen as being a piece of shit.

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>>377887424

I really liked Michael'story in GTAV, I find it completely on spot on what a fail relationship is and even give some steps to fix it. It shows that ultimately, if you're willing to put in the effort, family unity will prevail. And in the world of SJW-marxists-cunts we live in today, which is all about the dissolution of the group into the individual, it was a nice breath of honesty.

Trevor didn't learn anything, he was just there for entertainment value. Nothing more.

Franklin I couldn't relate to. Escaping the "hood" and becoming an "Uncle Tom" could have been betterly implemented. As it was there, it felt... Shallow.
>Yo, Franklin muh nig, wassup ?
>Yo man, keepin' it real man
>You leavin' ?
>Yeah, this life is shit dawg
>You an Unca Tom, Franklin
>Aww c'mon dawg, don't take it that way. Look, I'mma leave, but here's my phone numbah. Gimme a call when you'se need yo bitch-ass a lift for yo' car.

*end of his arc*

>>377895914
They certainly don't seem averse to spending the mountains of money he got them or stealing his shit.

Jimmy in particular ought to be beaten. He got off with nothing after trying to sell his father's property in the form pf a fucking giant boat.

>>377896202
And then drugging his father and stealing his car too.

>>377895914
His family were being pieces of shit before he got back into the life.

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>>377889052
How was Jimmy Hopkins a hypocrite?
>last ten years
>it's been 10 years since it came out
I remember playing it as a kid, this is a weird feeling.

>>377889439
>John Marston
WE ALL HAD HER

>>377896620

>but in the end, she left with me.

This shit gets me. I'm an irredeemable romantic.

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They're both twats.

Amanda is insufferable though. I make Michael cheat on her all the time.

>>377897637
With a wife like her, who wouldn't be neck deep in hookers

>>377896542
He was a hypocrite because he said he wouldn't act like Gary and treat people (like Petey) like shit. He also said that he would deal with Gary after the betrayal.

Then, when he became king of the school, he ignored Pete and also was content to put dealing with Gary at the back of his mind. He lost sight of his original goal because he got arrogant, and only stopped being an egotistical arse once Gary fucked him over for the second time.

Gary was absolutely obsessed with ruling the school. Jimmy was repulsed by his behaviour, but then he became consumed by it too once he'd defeated all the cliques.

>>377897637
Considering that Amanda constantly cucked Michael with the yoga instructor is that a surprise?

>>377893752
>Vince Vance was pretty cool
>Betrays you
YOU WERE LIKE A BROTHER TO ME, VINCE, WHY

>>377897995
And the tennis coach

And every guy in town

Michael's family was in the wrong but he was a stagnant deadbeat with money until the game started so no wonder they didn't like him

>>377896320
>>377896202
Not saying that his family weren't all terrible people. But the whole life of crime thing then getting back into it isn't justified when he could just peace out or something.
But it's a GTA game which is kind of the whole point.

>>377898207
that's Lance, Vince was in VCS not VC

>>377898207
>>377898414
I still don't know why Lance betrayed you, now that I think about it.

>>377898476
Didn't he just get paranoid?

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>>377887424
Both of them. The game even explains this to you, so I don't know how the fuck you are asking this question in the first place.

>>377896181
>working with whites means you'll become an uncle tom

Why are blacks the most racist people on earth? Jealousy?

>>377898476

If I remember correctly, Lance was trying to set up his own deals and projects which all went to shit in one way or another. So when Tommy started getting tired of having to fix his screw-ups and started to take these projects into his own hands, Lance felt like he was being cut out of the business.

>>377896181
never understood the uncle tom thing
why is it so bad to be successful and black
are white people the only people allowed to be successful
its interesting when a Asian person is successful they help their family same with white people
i really see it happen in black communities

>>377890632
How exactly would you make a likable character who is also supposed to be a career criminal and (potential) mass murderer?

You sure as hell wouldn't admire a dude like that in real life.

>>377900029
who is nathan drake?

>>377894237
I miss being able to torture people in IV

>>377900092
A really swell guy

>>377900092
that two bit thief

>>377899785
Crab mentality/tall poppy syndrome fueled by a paranoia that might have roots in slavery where the most well liked and cared for slaves were the ones who kissed ass and were super obedient possibly to the point that other slaves couldn't trust them.

>>377899580
low self-esteem