Hitman studio Io Interactive suffers layoffs

JUST

How is this funny?

>>377873334
Its TORtanicfags or weebs actually defending Square Enix

>>377873334
>make succesfull franchise that sells millions every iteration
>make first denuvo'd episodic online game and the company goes bust

pretty sad stuff. I liked hitman, honestly. I wasn't retarded and didn't buy into it before they released a decent amount of content though. Totally worth the like $30 they ask for the complete on most sites.

>>377873426
>defending square enix
You know blame doesn't always rest with one person.
IO did their fair share of fucking up the new games. Just because we're laughing at one party doesn't mean we support the other. There's nothing to talk about square enix, so of course people are going to laugh at IO.

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Whos gonna buy them? EA? Bethesda?

>People defending the nonsense shitman episodes

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>>377872123
so will they release a complete version NOW at least?

>>377872123
That doesnt matter. The important thing is that the ebil pirates didnt get to play Hitman 2016.

>episodic release
>always online
>timed exclusive content
Good. Fuck them.

good riddance, lock 90% of the game to always online again fuckholes

>>377875193

But it's been cracked for at least a couple months now.

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>mfw it's a good game and a good episodic model
>mfw it failed purely because of always online and denuvo

Fucking publishers, man.

>>377876870
>episodic model
>good

"no"

Hopefully we get a season 2.

>>377876836
Fuck off, namefag.

>>377876904
Except they did it right

>>377876934
>he doesn't know

>>377877005
They just did it less shitty than most. It's still shitty.

>>377873852
Hopefully THQ Nordic. They have so much money they're actually financing Darksiders 3 after the first two performed meh, so they should be able to pay for more Hitman games.

>>377877109
But it wasn't

>>377876749
He meant the ebil pirates cant enjoy a server emulator for all of the content

>>377877123
Which is a damn shame because The Darkness 2 was a great game and should have sold much better

>>377877189
>can't enjoy unlocks when real players go Fiber Wire only
Proves to me that pirates are casuals desu.

I liked the Hitman game but the fact that they did an always online DRM and it backfiring so stupendously is fucking awesome. Fuck em.

>>377877109
I just hate episodic release if theres an overarching plot. That defeats the purpose of having plot.

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>>377877383
The problem is I'm sure that shit was demanded by Squeenix, but Io takes the hit for it.

>>377876870
>>377877005
FUCK NO

Delay the game and finish it. Fuck episodic

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>>377877614

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>>377877707

>>377877786
>shemales are gay
No

>>377877664
I just think its not a good idea for a AAA game.
Much better to market it properly and capitalize on all platforms selling the game at full price at launch.
Not this staggered model where people dont really care enough about individual episodes and are waiting for a discounted full game release.

>>377877883
>bailey.webm

If they can't find a publisher, they should probably look into crowdfunding, there's probably enough people who like the franchise and want it to be done without any of the usual modern annoyances that they could get sufficient funding for it.

>>377872123
KEK

told you faggots

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>>377877883
>sucking a guy's dick and fucking his ass isn't gay

>>377877915
This. There are always going to be a good number of people who just wait for a full version to come out.

Same thing is going to hurt Squeenix on FFVII remake sales.

>>377877915
Serious Hitman fans don't mind the episodic model, since it gives them time to fully explore and replay a mission between its release and the next one. Unfortunately, serious Hitman fans are not a big enough market to fund a game like this themselves and the others all had a decent amount of casual fans too. They're the ones who are waiting for a full and final release.

>>377877965
Good idea honestly, Hitman fans are pretty loyal.

>>377872123
>square tells them to make game episodic
>doesn't sell
>fires them
>now they suffer layoffs to stay a float after leaving them dry mid production of s2

>>377878014
If its a feminine dick where's the problem

>>377877664
Why don't you just wait for the complete season then? I'm fine with episodes as long as they're priced right

>>377878014
Man, she looked great back then, she was perfect face wise.
Damn shame she just kept doing surgeries, she looks like a doll now.

>>377878381
A dick is a dick anon, I prefer my shemales with big dicks anyway

>>377877707
>>377877786
kek

>>377878431
Because you end up with the same bullshit Hitman has, where only 6 episodes are released and the other half of the game gets shitcanned because it doesn't sell.
Hitman 2016 didn't even sell a million copies. It flopped that hard.

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>>377878458
>she

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>>377878014
It just means you're bisexual anon

what's wrong with that?

>>377878431
>Why don't you just wait for the complete season then?
because the quality of the levels will be skewed and there is no assurance that they can be consistent in their delivery.

I do not understand how you can go from Blood Money and say
>hmmm why don't we decrease the number of levels and release them over a long span of time

>>377878602
It sold over 600k on PC alone. Are you saying consoles bought way less than PC?

>>377878948
>I do not understand how you can go from Blood Money and say
>hmmm why don't we decrease the number of levels and release them over a long span of time

Because the publisher won't give you money to make your game otherwise, faggot. If you think IO wanted to go "cinematic" with Absolution or episodic with the 2016 game you're fucking mental.

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>>377878874
>Don't want to sleep with men no matter how feminine
>Just want to fug women and shemales
>"Bisexual"

>>377879254
I'd rather have no game than have this piece of shit further infect other games. Let it all burn for all I care. I still got 47, SA, Contracts and BM

>>377878602
>the other half of the game
What are you even talking about? You didn't play it, did you. The game is as finished as any other Hitman game. Story has a start and an end and the maps are full of things to do. Just because they suggested a season 2 and even 3 doesn't mean it's incomplete. Those extra seasons would have cost full price too.

>>377879384
>Implying Codename 47 was good

Thank fuck it was made back in the day when games were cheap to make and they could still squeeze out a sequel even if the first game sucked.

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>>377879287
accept it anon

>>377879859
Knew it, Sessler always getting a bit too friendly with these indie developers

>>377879613
>6 levels
>Story ends on a shitty cliffhanger
>Other seasons would cost full price

Man, episodic gaming is great, I hope it really takes off!

>>377878705
If she has a face like a chick, an ass like a chick, tits ike a chick, and a big dick like a chick then it's a chick

>>377878948
There were major design changes over the course of the episodic releases. How sound detectioned worked, camera recording mechanics, AI behavior tweaks, UI changes, Animation and effect updates.

None of which would've happened were it not for player feedback, since none of them were glitches.

/v/ killed Hitman. Thanks /v/!

>>377881736
>There were major design changes over the course of the episodic releases. How sound detectioned worked, camera recording mechanics, AI behavior tweaks, UI changes, Animation and effect updates.
what makes you think that they'll make a great game even if there is player feedback?

we just got lucky that it panned out the way it did just like Deus Ex:HR and look at how that turned out.

Look at how Absolution turned out as well and the official forums from here to IO all were screaming "give us BM 2.0!"

Look at how they decided to can and rehire the VA or how jesper isn't in this game. So many fucking factors that can go to shit and you want them to do it in a more frequent manner.

>>377877786
Shemales are just regular gay, not really gay.

Really gay would be bears fisting each other while making out.
Or your dad.

>>377879859
Sauce on the left?

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>>377881042
>Liking fake tits

I don't even like them on women, let alone a man in a wig.

>>377872123
good. fuck denuvo, whats jews. always online? no sp? fuck them

>>377882890
>fuck denuvo
>not fuck Squeenix
Pissbaby, please educate yourself before you try to be indignant.

>>377883057
>Pissbaby, please educate yourself before you try to be indignant.


squeenix gave us the last 2 dues ex games, nier games, other decent games

io hasnt been good in years, many ,many years.

>>377882204
Jesper was an edgy faggot who couldn't make a compelling ambient track if the dried out pipes he used for strings counted on it.

If you played the games with the music on, you're a retard who probably used the map instead of footstep noises.

>>377883296
>io hasnt been good in years, many ,many years.
Coincidentally would this downward trend have started soon after Square Enix bought a stake in their company?

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>>377882890
linux gamers don't have this problem

Fuck 'em, Hitman 2016 had so much potential and they make it AAA early access shit where you have to literally grind points to unlock items.

>>377883584
If you weren't going to replay levels over and over, why the fuck are you playing Hitman games?

Oh wait, I bet you started with Abomination, the corridor shooter.

>>377883646
Real snippy line there but you're coming off like an unreasonable fanboy.
Why did you like grinding to unlock weapons and items? Why did you like having to conform to a checklist in a game that's meant to be so freeform?
Seems so against the spirit of Hitman. Hiding basic items behind the system like the Silverballers and lethal poison really irked me.

>>377882890
>no sp

???

>>377883825
>Why did you like grinding to unlock weapons and items? Why did you like having to conform to a checklist in a game that's meant to be so freeform?
The "checklist" is an extension of old fan forum stuff where you'd create a new mission in a level from one of the older games by designating a weapon, a disguise, a target and stipulations (no other kills etc.) and share your experiences doing it. It's the same reason they created contracts mode in Absolution (the one thing they actually added that was good). It's very much something added for the hardcore fans, not somebody who plays through each Hitman once or twice.

As for "grinding" I didn't find I needed to do that, because the way I play these games is to get creative and try out various ways to kill targets anyway.

>>377884143
The old forum missions were more complex than what you can stipulate in Contracts mode.

They really should have put more effort and made an actual mission creator.

>>377873597
It felt like a proper sequel to Blood Money which sucks. For the amount of dick sucking Hitman gets around here /v/ has a lot of hate for the second best one for whatever reason

>>377884143
My point isn't that the checklist itself is inherently bad, just that you're so heavily incentivised to follow it.
I don't like thinking "Okay now I have to play the level this specific way because I want that gun" in Hitman.

>>377873852
nintendo

>>377884284
Do you want that same gun, but slightly better?

Do all the challenges of the level again, but in the no fun allowed difficulty.

>>377884284
It's certainly not the best way to handle it. I'd have rather got a BM style cash reward depending on mission performance that you can spend on whatever you like, but Squeenix wanted that online integration for some reason. But very few of the highest ranked rewards are much good anyway, and most are just slight variations on weapons already available instead of actual "upgrades." Who needs an extra 5 bullets in the magazine when you're able to kill the targets in 'accidents' without ever firing a shot?

>>377884235
>for whatever reason

>episodic
>online
>denuvo
there you go

>>377884524
>BM style cash reward depending on mission performance
That would have been perfect.

>>377884557
Those aren't valid reason. I know that some people who post here think that their autistic crusades are more important than everything else, though.
And as other anon have said, bitching about episodic release in this kind of game is pure irrational shitposting.

>>377885175
Those are literally the reasons the game is a failure.

>>377885175
>Those aren't valid reason

Shit argument. A "valid" reason for not liking or buying a product is whatever the consumer deems it to be. It's their fucking money, they decide how and why it gets spent. Can you disagree? Absolutely. But it doesn't mean you're any more or less 'right' than they are.

You must have the mentality of a child if you think otherwise.

>>377885367
You have the mentality of domestically manufactured mollusc. Your argument is horse radish.

>>377885643
Epic. Simply epic.

>>377885643

>no refutation

I'll wait.

It's a shame since the game is good, but the release model is fucking terrible so they sort of had it coming.

>>377885768
Squeenix is about to learn a lesson with the FF7 release.

>>377885919
if squeenix does the same shit to FF7 and it somehow works, a lot of shitposters are gonna feel silly because FF7 might be the title to make them eat their words and see how shitty Squeenix really is, screencap this.

>>377885212
Yeah, because all the denuvo games usually fails, normal people makes a big fuss about on line when they barely notice it, and episodic format can't help hesitant new friends at trying the game without having to pay full price.
You are overestimating the value of your autistic crusades like the sjws always overestimate the value of theirs.
It didn't work because people in this period weren't interested enough in this kind of game to make it profitable enough for whatever the profit objective was, those 2 things are the only real factors. But put some factors only worst autists care about in this matter if that make you feel like a better little crusader.
>we did it bros, we finally won against the denuvo Satan!

>>377886049
>FF7 remake
>Using the ff15 combat engine
it can fuck off.

>>377877005
No

>>377886236
Okay, you tell me why the game failed then.

>>377886336
You're getting trolled fuccboi, being compared to a SJW didn't tip you off?

>>377886336
he just told you, retard

>>377886462
Are you implying people don't say shit just as retarded as that in complete seriousness or something? We've reached some kind of Poe's Law of trolling.

>>377886537

The guy just made this post >>377885643

He's not exactly arguing in good faith.

>>377886336Hitman is a fun game but the episodic model doesn't work. It causes people too lose hype. Lole most games a hitman game comes out people buy it and only like a quarter of the people finish it. When you split the game up like that you'll just lose sales. Life is strange got away with it because it was pandering to lesbians.

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>>377886642
Well shit, you got me there.

>>377886336
Can you even read?

>>377886462
Sorry to trigger you so much, but you autist crusaders and the the sjws are the two sides of the same autistic obnxious coin.

>>377886642
I didn't write that. But nice attempt at running away.

>>377886802
>I didn't write that

I don't believe you. But if that's really the case, go ahead and post a refutation to my argument here >>377885367

>>377886657
Life is strange isn't the only succesful episodic game. There are also The Walking Dead and some werewolf-shit

>>377887062
So basically episodic releases only work for faggy non-games?

>>377886884
>I don't believe you.
you must be really smart if you seriously believe so strongly that those posts were written by the same person.

>But if that's really the case, go ahead and post a refutation to my argument here >>377885367
What argument you little obnoxious idiot? I already pointed out how the average consumer doesn't care and will never care about your autistic crusades, my whole previous post was about that and you can't even get I was talking about? Seriously?

>>377887417
>What argument

Alright, let me spell it out for you

One anons claim regarding the game in question was that
> /v/ has a lot of hate for the second best one for whatever reason

One anon posts with
>episodic
>online
>denuvo
as a list of possible reasons as to why the game receives criticism.

And you (I'm assuming) responded with
>Those aren't valid reason

I would like to know what exactly the criteria is for any critique to become valid, and why those three aspects listed do not meet that criteria.

You've thrown around the term "autistic crusade" a lot, so I feel fairly confident when I assume that >>377885175 is you.

>>377887129
Maybe..?

I liked HM16s episodic release. Was hyped every month for the new episode. But Im a hardcore fan, so that could be why

>>377887757
>He's really so fucking stupid.
This post >>377886236 was also a reply to that. How you can't you understand that is beyond me. And, yes, I know you aren't trolling, you are clearly just a genuine underage retard.

>>377877664
>DUDE JUST ASK YOUR PUBLISHER TO GIVE YOU FREE MONEY TO FINISH THE GAME
>Obsidian should've asked for more time on their NV contract
>It's IOI's fault SE owns hitman and makes retarded demands that will cripple the sales
it's not like they were going to dumpster hitman entirely if the alpha build footage wasn't "leaked", either (^:

>>377888017

You're arguing something completely different. I don't give a fuck why the game might or might not have failed financially.

Your claim was that
>episodic
>online
>denuvo
are NOT valid reasons for disliking a game. That was what you posted.

I am asking you to back up that statement.

>>377887129
To be fair the audience for those non faggy games contain a lot of people that wouldn't play games like hitman or real video games period.

This is purely anecdotal but most of the people that I personally know that praise telltale games and life is strange are the types that cosplay and know a bunch of characters for games they've never even played. I.e tifa, tracer, mei, etc etc. these people are never gonna support a hitman game

>>377883296
>squeenix gave us the last 2 dues ex games,
THat's enough to say fuck square enix.
Glad Dude Sex is finally shelved forever, because every game after the 1st was a fucking mistake.
>dude transhumanism is like abortions
>Dude what if augs were niggers
Truly deep philosophical questions with timeless messages.

>>377872123
Shitty fucking people a lot of you are.

>>377872123
>people paid money for a game with content they will never access again
Serves them right doing elusive contracts

>>377888065
if they corner themselves on their contract its their own fault.

>>377888407
>tfw I got all the elusive targets suits on PC and PS4
>feelsgood

you'd have to be a retard to fail to piss ez contracts and the rewards are cosmetic too so nobody gives a shit.

>>377888065
IO actually owns the Hitman IP, thankfully they weren't stupid enough to sell it to a publisher.

So why DID this game rack up a 43 million loss and fail so badly? What does /v/ think?

>>377888631
Episodic release, Denuvo, and always online. Three things that give buyers pause all applied to a game without the name recognition to survive them.

>>377888631
Hitman didn't lose 43 million, Squeenix lost 43 million total last year.

>>377888161
So you were just trying to defend your crusades while everyone else was talking about the the average consumer? Seriously? It looks like I overestimated you. And no, I have no interest in tryimg to explain autistic people why they are autistic. We already had those discussions tons and tons of times during those years, that was more than enough. You have your blind faith and evil enemies that must be exterminate at any cost, and it's fine, nothing can change that, just don't try to sell it like something that has objective value and that average consumer cares about.

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>>377888631
>release as much content as the whole game as timed exclusives
what were they even thinking?
it's nearly an entire level's worth of work, including new voice lines every month.
greedy publishers would make these monthly updates cost something, but this system is just insane.

>>377889269

>shitposting for (You)'s

Alright you had me going for a while, nice work.

>>377889372
>1-2 contracts a week with 7 lines of dialogue is as much as an episode
jej

>>377889374
>he's been baiting the whole because he doesn't want to engage with me in a completely unrelated and endless discussion about my own obsessions.
What a nice way to dismiss any point someone made, really resonable and honest. If you are really so interested in thus unrelated discussion about your own damn obsessions make a new thread about it instead of pestering me so hard and shit on this thread for no reason, you fucking child.

>>377889812
>retard gets proven wrong with dialectic
>HURR DURR NO IM RIGHT
sounds about right

>>377878115
>no true scotsman
Not an argument m8