Wait hold on a second, why the FUCK is Classic Sonic in this

You're absolutely right but he's cute. Isn't that enough?

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>>377819530
Sonic Team has a bad habit of keeping every single previously-introduced character altogether (aside from Archie, Boom or other "gaijin" material) whenever not focusing exclusively on Sonic and Tails.

And SEGA could care less so long as it makes them autism-bux wherever their weebshit games fail.

>>377819530
Classic Sonic is the actual Sonic

2006 Sonic is there to showcase the OC creator

because the current strategy is to fellate the first three games so nostalgia babbies clap, at the expense of everything else.

>>377820416

I wouldn't even call Classic Sonic a character. I mean, of course he is, but not in the same way Knuckles and Vector and whoever else are. He was a gimmick that worked for a specific purpose at Sonic's 20th anniversary. Even from a narrative sense this is fucking nonsense.

classic sonic was neat in generations. but nom ore neef for him since mania is a better classic game by a long shot.

>>377820589
>He was a gimmick that worked for a specific purpose at Sonic's 20th anniversary.
Which I personally agree with too, just like the Wisps. Regardless, Sonic Team loves reusing shit for whatever reason.

Also what >>377820523 said, nostalgia-marketing for Sonic fans is at its current highest.

>>377820732
>nom ore neef for him
Uh what

>>377820732
What did he mean by this

>>377821835
>>377822151
He meant "no more need"

>>377819530
They seem dead set on devaluing the brand. It was special the first time and this time it feels cheap.

>>377819530
the sonic "games" aren't actually games anymore, they exist only as fanservice. that's why you get old sonic, new sonic AND the oc creator. it pleases all parts of the horrible parts of sonic fandom that they can get away with pandering to. the one thing missing, disturbing fetish porn, is left out because they can't put that in a game and still release it.

Sonic may just be the worst designed character ever

>>377822485
They really should focus more on defining what Sonic is and attempt to merge the fans together. 3D Boost/2D Classic and everything in between being labeled a spin off.

>>377820962
>Sonic Team loves reusing shit for whatever reason.
There might unironically be a whole bunch of autists on the team that don't see anything wrong with this specific thing or the series as a whole.

>>377822618
I'd like to see your character design, Anon.

>>377822852
>attempt to merge the fans together
That will never work. Sonic Team needs to focus more on developing a GOOD game with a clear focus on what it wants to be, not one that tries to please as many people as possible. Forces is doing the latter, and is only going to end up being decent at best, largely because it will suffer from being a jack of all trades and a master of none.

What's funny is Iizuka stated that in contrast to Forces, Sonic Mania is being developed with a single demographic in mind and looks like it will be one of the best games in the series. Unfortunately Sonic Team won't take any notes from this, and will continue to keep the series in the "mediocre to okay" range.

>>377822618
>worst designed character ever
>was once considered one of the most recognizable characters in the world, even over Mickey Mouse
Hm.

>>377822993
This is Sega's overall strategy:
>Experiment with shit
>If fans seem to like it, keep it.

The problem is they're really fucking bad at reading audience reactions, so they tend to keep things wholesale. People reacted positively to Unleashed so they kept the Boost gameplay even though it's hell to develop for. People reacted positively to Colors so they kept Wisps, even if that isn't the actual reason people liked the game. People reacted positively to Generations, so they came to the conclusion that Classic Sonic is the key to success.

>>377822993
>a series for autists, by autists

It'd make too much sense. Then again a lot of Japanese media arguably comes off as such.

>>377823924
>Classic Sonic is the key to success
At this point they're not wrong. Classic Sonic might as well replace Modern as the face of the franchise, especially when the general public essentially sees him as the series' goldenboy.

>>377824258
But casuals and Adventure+ autists outnumber the Genesis nostalgiafags.

>>377824357
>casuals
Will praise anything with Classic Sonic's face on it or anything resembling classic gameplay (i.e. Sonic 4 episode 1).
>Adventure+ autists
Will buy anything with the Sonic logo stamped on it, hoping the series will one day return to how it was when they were children, not realizing that period is considered a low point in the series for a reason.

There is no downside to dropping modern Sonic and utilizing classic from this point forward, or at least redesigning the modern design so that it has a closer resemblance to Sonic's original design.

>you're just a nostalgiafag
I don't really care about Sonic anymore.

This franchise just needs to split into two series. They need to keep the modern series for experimenting with new ideas and concepts, and a classic series that delivers what we want constantly, while of course creating new PLATFORMING elements.

SEGA trying to combine them AGAIN just looks so incredibly desperate. It's like they think modern Sonic needs a life support to rely on (classic Sonic) when they never actually TRIED to produce a standalone modern Sonic game that wasn't entirely gimmicks. Sonic Colors was singlehandedly RUINED by the fucking Wisps.

>>377824962
Frankly, I think they're all autists and arguing over which fictional anthroporphic hedgehog "looks better" is retarded. I mean, there should come a point when you stop bitching about shit like this.

>>377823740
Merge the fans together was bad wording on my part. I meant to put them into clear sections like 3D games and 2D games where you won't have to worry about something like Adventure fans or Rush fans branching off into their own groups. As it is now Boost Sonic also includes Rush Sonic and Classic Sonic and its a mess.

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>>377819530
H-hey guys, do you need a third character with grappling hook style gameplay?

O-oh, you already found someone. That's cool... n-no, I'm not upset.

>>377824962
>not realizing that period is considered a low point in the series for a reason.
let's just ignore how fucking tedious and boring boost gameplay is

>>377819530
Because classic Sonic levels were the only good thing in Generations

>>377825453
>arguing over which fictional anthroporphic hedgehog "looks better" is retarded.
No one is arguing over what "looks better", its more so the reputation that is tied to each design at this point and which direction should Sonic Team take the franchise going into the future. Modern Sonic's design is pretty much tied to a reputation of either consistent shit or mediocrity, with a small handful of decent games here and there, and is constantly having prove its worth to the general public. In comparison, not a lot of people think of anything negative regarding classic Sonic, and is regularly used to represent the franchise's "glory days".

If Sega wants to go the easy route in improving Sonic's current reputation, they would either have to switch to the classic design, or redesign Sonic again, probably so that he closer resembles his classic look, in order to close the door on the "modern era" of the series and essentially start fresh.

>>377826231
I'm not a fan of boost gameplay either, but you can't deny its general reception is a lot better compared to that regarding Adventure 1, 2, Heroes, etc. I don't think Sonic Team will ever get Sonic be enjoyable in 3D. They should probably just stick to 2D for a while since the sidescrolling formula already works.

>>377826568
The game went to shit after you beat Chemical Plant.

They should have just made the entire game Sonic 2. At least then it'd have more levels than "Sonic escapes from cities" and "Sonic runs along a green hill"

>>377825587
>I meant to put them into clear sections like 3D games and 2D games
I agree, then. Sega should have split the series up into different subsections years ago, like how Mario does with its lines of 3D, 2D, rpgs, and other general spinoff games.