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Greenhill me on this series.
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CD and All-Stars Racing Transformed are the only good ones
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>>377763086
https://youtu.be/LoDse9WV9po
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It's just a game about punching people
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Since Forces has both killed my interest with bad OC and it's confirmed to have the same shitty writers I'm just waiting for Mania to suck and dwelling on the whimsy that the old games had.
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>>377763086
Pretty good overall, with 2D games being marginally better quality. Gets shit on constantly for cringey fanbase and bad recent games, but unironically one of the better game series out there.
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>>377763086
You started this thread just to make that pun, didn't you? It was good; I smiled.
>>377763409
I'm mostly just interested in Mania, but I also want to see just how robust Forces' donutsteel maker is
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>>377763265
CD is fucking terrible don't listen to this guy
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Sonic 1-CD are classics.
SA1-2 suck ass. This is where the series lost its identity and fell apart.
Every gameboy game is great.
Heroes is okay.
Shadow is okay but not that good.
06 is still steaming shit.

>Modern
Unleashed is the greatest platformer of all time.
Generations was okay.
Lost world was an unnecessary addition that didn't need to happen.

>Present
As a result Sonic is largely a blank face series with no identity beyond boost and """"nostalgia""""" neither of which are particularly great (although they nailed it the first time). Who knows how Forces will turn out. And Mania is already a confirmed hit.
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>>377763861
>SA1-2 suck ass. This is where the series lost its identity and fell apart.

Fucking retarded piece of shit, go neck yourself
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>>377763861
>SA1-2 suck ass.
>This is where the series lost its identity and fell apart.

go fuck yourself you piece of shit.
massive
gigantic
fucking retard faggot cunt
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>>377763861
desu most "modern sonic" games aren't that bad, only pretty ok with some aggrivating parts mixed in as they always experiment too much
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>>377763861
>Sonic CD is a classic
>SA1 sucks ass
Your opinion is gay
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>>377763086
It was never good.
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>>377763861
>SA1-2 suck ass. This is where the series lost its identity and fell apart.
>Unleashed is the greatest platformer of all time.
>Generations was okay.
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>>377764421
>>377764037
>>377764026
>letting nostalgia affect your opinions this much
Seriously, go replay those games. I dare you tell me they're worth a shit.
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>>377763861
>Unleashedfag is back
Oh boy, I can't wait for the pure autism explosion when you and that recent Adventure autist clash heads.
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>>377763086
>Greenhill me on this series.
heh
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>>377764636
they are
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>>377764636
SA1 and SA2 are worth more than your miserable, worthless, shit-taste having, cum guzzling, dick-riding "life"

And it's another episode where anon calls Adventure fags nostalgia blinded but classic negroids somehow aren't. The irony
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>>377763086
The only good games are Rush and its sequel, 3, and CD
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>>377764828
Because no one here on /v/ was actually alive when the Genesis games came out.
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>>377763607
>>377764751
OP is a fraud the exact same joke was made earlier on a thread on /vr/
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>>377763086
I need a quick rundown. Like SUPER QUICK FAST.
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>>377763861
This is the best opinion I have seen in a while. Just call Sonic 1 and CD garbage and its perfect.
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>>377764026
>>377764037
>>377764273
I loved those games as much as all of you in my youth.
Then I played them again.

>>377764243
No, I agree. But they're all so terribly mediocre it's almost offensive. Stagnation of quality and classic crutches are the biggest problems right now.
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>>377764663
Excuse my standards then
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>>377763861
I agree except that SA1 and 2 are fine, Shadow is literal garbage, and Sonic Heroes is figurative garbage. 06 is also literal garbage, Chaotix is pretty bad aside from graphics and music, and other modern Sonic games are hardly worth mentioning since they're all just okay.
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It gets more depressing with every installment, and peaked in the late 90's early 2000's
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>>377765165
SA is still 10X better than CD
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sonic jam
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>>377765441
This, I really don't like the direction that Sonic is going nowadays. And yeah, the series did peak during that time period (late 90's, early 2000's)
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>>377763861
>Unleashed
>platformer
Unleashed is a platformer just as much as Hotel Mario is a dating sim.
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Learn the physics, this is absolutely important. You do not run like an idiot, you learn the layout and mechanics. You do that, you gain speed as a result. Play the Genesis games, the Gamegear games as well (if they don't have a Master System counterpart), CD, Chaotix and go from there to whatever else you find interesting.
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Sa1 and Sa2 are good games, everything after them seemed to suck badly. Although I enjoyed Shadow and a bit of 06. Heroes was too horrendously flawed to enjoy, especially the PC port. Shadow fixed most of the problems with the heroes engine.
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>sonic 1 is rough, almost mediocre
>sonic 2 is great
>sonic 3 is underwhelming
>sonic 3 & knuckles is great
>Sonic CD is meh but I liked it
>3D blast is trash
>spin ball is trash
>never played chaotix
>adventure sucks but is charming at times
>adventure 2 sucks but is worth a laugh
>didn't play heroes
>shadow sucks
>06 is an incredible disaster
>never played colors
>generation 3D was ok I guess, 2D was shit
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>>377765725

WHEN WILL LOW-POLY REPLACE 8-BIT AS STANDARD INDIE FARE?
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Classic Sonic is not fun whatsoever, anyone who tells you that those games are fun is a fucking masochist or a hipster faggot. Pic related is the epitome of classic gameplay.
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>>377766043
>make a game about going fast
>standard platforming segments
What did they mean by this?
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>play sonic 1
>go to marble zone
>ride a slow block across lava
>run right
>hit a spring
>get sent careening back into the lava

Gayest crap ever concieved by man.
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>>377766329
Classic Sonic in a nutshell
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>This joke was so funny on /vr/ I decided to post it on /v/ for more (You)s!

Give it a rest. It was funny though.
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>>377766036
>what is minecraft

just make yout low poly games and see how people lose your shit, there arent any because people dont know they are even a thing.
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Aside from minor control gripes the shitty story I genuinely like Shadow the Hedgehog
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>>377763086
Fast.
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>>377766656
literally not the fucking same. every asset from that game is a square.
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>>377763409
Was time travel really a logical direction for the series?
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Why did it need to be delayed?
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>>377766791
they arent the same but every person would think they are meant to be retro graphics of some sort, which means there is ground for actual low poly graphics to shine.
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>>377766987
Because they realized they needed to make new stages for fans to give a shit? It's literally a romhack, I bet they were counting on everybody being happy that it got released instead of being pissed it was just a rehash of 1-3, so now they are taking the extra time and effort to make sure there are extra levels, which will inevitably be horribly designed and rushed.
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>stealing jokes from /vr/

>>>/vr/4010336/
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Sonic 1 was slow and methodical; it was gaining its footing - funnily enough - and trying to follow up on the traction it gained from advertisements. It was slow, but mostly from one thing: there wasn't too much screenspace in relation to his top speed
Sonic 2 fixed most of the slow-pacing from Sonic 1 and made for better things. Speed was still about memorization rather than quick reaction timing, but they were getting around to it.
Sonic 3 and all the add-ons and other such were experimental and fun as hell; platforming based as it was, it made up for the lack of screen space with how adventurous it got in level design.
Sonic CD did the opposite and added more: it gave screen space when you ran in one direction and on top of that gave a lot of opportunities for letting the level flesh itself out from the time travel mechanic. Platforming wasn't as good/experimentative as Sonic 3's, but it was damn good.
After this, it was a rough patch of outright experimentation as they tried to throw everything they learned out of the window.
Come Sonic Adventure 1, and it's a breath of fresh air in a 3D environment. It isn't perfect, god no; the voice acting was as hammy as the cutscenes and the controls for moving around were awful due to how fast Sonic could go as opposed to how sensitive he actually was to turning. It was a step in the right direction, but a big shaky one.
Sonic Adventure 2 solidified that step; it gave Sonic a real big game that was nice. It suffered still from the same problems, but they were tuned better.
Shadow the Hedgehog was...interesting. So was Sonic Heroes, though if you were to compare the two, it's clear that Sonic Heroes had more thought put into its controls and other such.
Kind of goes shaky after that, until you get around to Sonic Unleashed, which was a great game that was a step in both the right and wrong direction. It took the automation of Adventure and did it two-fold. Future games leveled it down, but yeah.
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>>377767231
All in all, the games went through a lot, and it wasn't all necessarily pretty. Those are for the major examples, but there's plenty of stand-off spinoffs that were fantastic (Rush, Adventure, Battle all come to mind) and they should be played with a fresh attitude on the series since that's exactly what the games give the player upon coming in.

I'd say that Sonic's not out of the rough patch yet, but despite his problems, I still really love him either way. It's hard to put something like him down. He's struggled through so much that he's been a popular underdog to Mario. A logistical Luigi to him, if that makes any sense. I know one of these days, they'll figure it out, but for now, it's just ah
the character creation shit.
Yeah.
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>>377767072

>perfectly clean, unpixelated textures on a basic blocky model
>''''''''retro''''''''

fucking disgusting
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>>377767231
>it's clear that Sonic Heroes had more thought put into its controls
I always commended Shadow for mapping rail-jumping and Light Dashing to the X button rather than the jump and attack buttons respectively. It was also nice that if there was an area where the Light Dash was required, there'd be transparent rings there that you could use over and over again.
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>>377767231

>it's clear that Sonic Heroes had more thought put into its controls and other such.

Ehhhh, maybe for the power and flight formations, but speed was slippery as hell. Shadow slipped around too but wasn't nearly as fast so it wasn't as bad.

And the Special Stage controls. Jesus Christ.
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You played Sonic 3, Rush, Advance 2, and Unleashed. Then you are done with the series. There's your green pill.
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>>377767906
>mediocre tier games
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>>377767464
Ah, fuck! That's right. Damn you, Anon, taking advantage of me not replaying Shadow the Hedgehog in a long while - my only weakness.

For that, however, Heroes had the whole Team mechanic to deal with; it's understandable for it to not get all those sort of benefits in relation to the controls. In terms of its handling on speed, it had a slow sensitivity as compared to the likes of Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, which was good for going fast, but not so much for going slow and platforming. It sort of makes itself into a problem of overall control like >>377767603 stated, so I'll take that back and say that it's a "make the best of both worlds" scenario.

>And the Special Stage controls. Jesus Christ.
We don't talk about the Special Stages in Heroes, Anon.
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>>377767072
People paid money for this. The world is an amusing place.
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>le CD is bad meme
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>>377763265
>CD

man of taste
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>>377763086

Sonic Forces looks p fkn lit, famalam.
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I like the direction the series has been taking with the boost gameplay and focusing solely on Sonic. Unleashed (day stages), Colors, and Generations were all great. Forces should be good as long as the OC character doesn't end up being another Werehog shit.

On that note the fandom is downright cancerous right now. Mostly because newer fans (that like boost gameplay) and Adventure fags (that want Sonic and his shitty friends - the game) are constantly clashing and butting heads. At least retro heads are getting Sonic Mania this year.

Anyway to answer OP I would just start from Sonic 1 on Genesis and go in order until you fucking hate the games, then skip ahead to Sonic Colors or Sonic Generations.
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>>377763861

>1-CD

So I guess 3 and S&K are shit, right?
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>>377766917
They used it for CD and everyone loved that so no harm done.
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>>377768050

It's an overdesigned clusterfuck that's only good for the Japanese soundtrack and cutscenes.
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>>377768141
I want more Shadow.
I wanna drown in a sea of edge
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>>377768141

Boostshit needs to go. It doesn't even feel like I'm playing. I felt more involved in the Sonic/Shadow Adventure stages.
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>>377765847
more like the result of memorizing a specific path through the level
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>>377768141
>that want Sonic and his shitty friends - the game
We've seen in the past that his friends aren't inherently the issue though. No one complained about Tails' gameplay style in Adventure 1. No one complained about Shadow's gameplay style in Adventure 2. No one complained about Blaze's gameplay style in the Rush games.
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>>377765725
The environment is beautiful but sonic looks like a mess
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>>377765847
thats funny, because i know exactly how the old games control and feel and yet i cant do that. this isnt learning anything, this is memorizing which is very hard in a 2D game where there is no unique landmarks and the background is the same
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>>377768275
I agree to a certain extent. I think the general platforming should be like the adventure games with some boost-like sections to get a good sense of speed. That being said the platforming from the adventure games is all I want back. I do not want them to bring back the multi-gameplay style or the atrociously bad "edgy" storylines from that time period. Which is something that adventure fags are constantly crying the newer games lack.
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>>377768169
CD came before 2 i guess
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>>377768212

Apples and oranges, anon. Time travel is actually a gameplay mechanic in CD, wether in Generations and Forces is like playing two different games from the start.
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>>377768469

I agree with that. When I say I miss the Adventure style, I don't mean the Rogue/Eggman stages. The Sonic levels in Adventure felt more varied. I didn't really mind Tails in SA1, but that's about it. Everyone else was trash.
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>>377768392
>No one complained about Tails' gameplay style in Adventure 1. No one complained about Shadow's gameplay style in Adventure 2. No one complained about Blaze's gameplay style in the Rush games.

All three of those gameplay styles are literally the same as playing as Sonic. Heck Shadow is literally a fucking clone of Sonic, and Blaze has a double jump. Tails can hover. And those are the ONLY characters worth playing IMO. There's little reason to waste time and resources on extra characters when the gameplay variations are so miniscule. I rather they just lock down Sonic's gameplay and focus on making more levels. Not wasting their time on Sonic's shitty friends.
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Am i going to enjoy SA2 if the only thing i enjoyed about SA1 was the Sonic levels? I'd gladly play it for Shadow and Battats, but the gameplay is way too off-putting.
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>>377768573
Amy's was good
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The series as a whole is mediocre as fuck
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>>377768686
Don't know how your social life is but it SA2 had the best multiplayer gameplay in the series.

I also believe that in total, SA2 has more Sonic/Shadow levels than SA1 had Sonic/Tails levels.
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I started playing 3 for the first time yesterday.
I'm enjoying it so much more than the first two games but I can't pinpoint why.
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>>377768707

I would've liked them more if she wasn't so slow. Flying around with the hammer was cool, but that's about it. I didn't mind Big's stages, mostly because they were short once you got the hook of them. I just don't get why they'd add such slow paced shit into a Sonic game. My autism makes me want to go fast.
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>>377768686
the game is 4 or 5 hours

not all the speed stages are good. the hunting and shooting levels are improved vastly since there is a rank and points system in place. the game has a very drab and ugly aesthetic, making a good half of the game (cities and deserts) boring. there is no reason not to play unless your ass really gets hurt by outdated ign memes about muh characters :((((
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>>377768678
I feel like that's a bit of a contradiction though, because if the gameplay variations are so minuscule, then there shouldn't be that much time to waste on them at all.
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>>377768816
SA1 has 10 Sonic levels and 6 Tails levels, with one Tails level just being a snowboarding stage.

SA2 only has 10 speed levels. 6 for Sonic, 4 for Shadow.
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If your favorite Sonic does not have a Crush 40 song you are 100% a fag.
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>>377768948
I guess it's all a matter of perspective then; I always appreciated that, even though a lot of them share the same aesthetic/theme, each level in SA2 is completely unique. No two characters run through the same levels as Sonic and Tails did in SA1.
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>>377768469

But there were barely any obstackes or enemies in those games. What platforming? Levels were straight corridors where Sonic could perform automatic stunts (maybe the snow level is the exception to the rule, but that's it). Even collecting rings was a chore and felt like a second thought. Also, stages were short as fuck and you spent most of the time in the hub world getting some key or completing some random task until you unlocked the next level.

I don't understand why so many people have fond memories of SA1 or 2, because that's how I remember them. Maybe I should replay them someday.
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>>377763861
>Unleashedfag
Nah fuck off. Unleashed is just as fundamentally shit as the Adventure games, but with a nice coat of paint.
Download the Unleashed Project for Generations, blow through it in like an hour or two, and you just played the only decent part of Unleashed.
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>>377769106
SA1 has a lot more pure platforming than SA2. Things definitely got way more automated in SA2.

Anyway it isn't so much platforming that people want from the adventure games, but the physics and "feel" of controlling Sonic. Sure it was slower, but it wasn't as stiff as the boost games. Seriously the jumping physics for modern Sonic in the recent games is terrible.
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>>377768892
It sucks they rushed the game out so fast because the Dreamcast died. There's really only 4 different types of textures in the game. The city, the Knuckles pumpkin hill shit, the desert, and space. And space reuses textures from the military levels like the Harbor.
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>>377769615
I agree, nothing in the boost games really replicates the feel of spindashing UP a slope and making those huge sequence-breaking jumps.
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>>377769915
There were also the two forest levels.
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>>377763086
Genesis (and Advance to an extent) games are pinball-physics, multiple path exploration and some fast, but limited by 2D screen size visibility.

Adventure games are mostly hold-forward-to-win, but with a lot of side-games and other characters who play entirely different.

Heroes through Black Knight are just random gimmicks and likely just further cringe, play at your own risk.

Unleashed-onwards is "use Boost power to win stage" and some occasional bog-standard platforming, but with nice visuals and better presentation + level design that previous entries.

Boom is shit. Avoid it.

Archie comics are worth reading if you need more Sonic grills. The cartoons/anime are pretty hard to watch.
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>>377768212
I just found it funny since, apparently, Sonic 2 and Sonic CD having time travel was completely by accident.
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>>377770204
>Archie comics are worth reading if you need more Sonic grills. The cartoons/anime are pretty hard to watch.

Obligatory fuck Ken Penders.
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Heroes is the best 3d sonic
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>>377769297
You're a fucking idiot that needs every single one of his teeth knocked out. We should also gouge your fucking eyes out, they're worthless anyway.

Unleashed project isn't worth jack-fucking-SHIT to the actual game. Generations runs on a extremely watered down version of the hedgehog engine.

>B-but the werehog is le bad! People on the internet said so! I can't formulate my own opinions so I'll parrot that!

Yeah no. The werehog has a surprising amount of depth to it and if you aren't such a fucking nigger about it you might actually come to like it. But you'll continue being the nigger that you are so I'm just wasting my time here

tl;dr you're a fucking delusional nigger that needs to be mutilated for having such shit taste
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>>377770664
nah, but it is the last good one
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>>377770783
Also might I add that they needed to make a mod that replicates the lighting from Unleashed but even then it doesn't look anywhere near as good? Top fucking kek
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>>377770796
It is the most consistently good game. There are cool moments in Adventure/Adventure 2 but they are bogged down by cancer.
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>>377770783
>Werehog
>Depth

Underage fag who clearly hasn't played a character action game. Even God of War has more depth than Werehog shit. Even the shitty Ninja Turtles game that Platinum made has more depth.

> Generations runs on a extremely watered down version of the hedgehog engine.

Too bad the only way to play the only good parts in Unleashed are on consoles that have terrible frame drops and can't even sustain 30 fps.

Face it, Unleashed project is the best way to play those stages lad.
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>>377763086
The cartoon is at least good
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>>377770783
The Werehog is boring as fuck, is a complete slog compared to daytime Sonic, and barely focuses on the actual interesting platforming. The whole game is bogged down with bullshit and you're delusional if you think Unleashed is some sort of fucking masterpiece. Like you're somehow better than any of the dumb Adventurecucks.

Also at least it runs at 60 fps and any resolution in the Unleashed Project. Funny how I give a shit about things that actually affect the gameplay and you don't.
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>>377767156
Shit I thought it was an all new game with all new levels, is it seriously just 1-3 with a few extra levels tacked on? That sounds fucking dumb. If I wanted to play 1-3 again I would load up a fucking ROM. What the fuck Sega.
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What's the best way to play Sonic Adventure?
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>>377771829
The Dreamcast version. Use an emulator, or if you have the console just burn the ISO to a CD-R. The DX version ruined a bunch of shit.
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>>377763086
Sonic 1 is a run-of-the-mill platformer of it's era, though with a higher emphasis on speed every two zones
Sonic 2 improves upon the aspects of the first by making each level not only faster, but more colourful
Sonic CD padded out the experience with a time travel mechanic you needed to get the good ending, but at least it had a great soundtrack
Sonic 3 and Knuckles is the best in the series, improving still upon Sonic 2
The Game Gear games are just watered down experiences you can get on Genesis more easily
Sonic 3D Blast was fine for 5 minutes, but lacked the Sonic speed needed to make a Sonic game memorable
Any other spinoff between 1995 and 1997 isn't worth your time, despite the long hiatus for mainstream titles
Sonic Adventure, while a bit buggy, is fun for the Sonic, Tails and Knuckles stories, though the others aren't worth your time
Sonic Adventure 2 divides the gameplay count by 2, but isn't as long or fun as its predecessor
The Sonic Advance games, while not as good as the classics, are solid platformers
Sonic Heroes returns back to a simpler style of gameplay, but it's a shame there's little replayability. Good luck ironically doing the same thing 4 times tho
Shadow the Hedgehog isn't worth your time
Sonic 06 is laughably bad
The Sonic Rush games are like more complex variants of the Advance games, whether that's better or worse is up to you
Sonic Unleashed, like Adventure is good for half of it (in this game's case the Daytime levels)
Sonic 4 is shit that doesn't age well 7 years on
Sonic Colours is like the daytime stuff in Unleashed, but more Marioish in terms of presentation
Sonic Generations takes a level from each of the previous games and gives you both a Classic and Colours version of said level
Sonic Lost World tries to be Super Mario Galaxy but fails
The Sonic Boom games are great if you want to torture yourself for a few hours

The second best game in the series is easily Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine, no questions.
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>>377771975
>Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
>No offset.
>Good
God I wish you fucking MBM babies would fucking kill yourselves.
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>>377771975
Bean machine is literally an outdated puyo puyo so if thats the second best in the series according to you that's pretty sad.
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>>377768427
Same shit, faggots. Get good and stop being shitters who can't play games and go on to make these same bait threads with those autistic charts.
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>>377771975
Other than the MBM nonsense this is a pretty accurate description of the series.
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>>377772120
It was sarcasm. It's hard to think of the second-best Sonic game, the best has always been 3 for me.
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>>377772095
The most disgusting part about that webm is the framerate in Generations.
Generations on console was unplayable garbage.
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>>377771084
>Even the shitty Ninja Turtles game that Platinum made has more depth.

You're talking through your ass right now, as what you fucking IDIOTS who talk shit about these games usually do.

>Too bad the only way to play the only good parts in Unleashed are on consoles that have terrible frame drops and can't even sustain 30 fps.

The only part where this ever happens in the entire god damn game is day time Adabat, even then it's excusable because it's a beautiful stage with lots of shit going on. You're fucking nitpicking at this point you piece of shit. How pathetic can you get?

>>377771449
>The Werehog is boring as fuck
No, it isn't you piece of shit
>is a complete slog compared to daytime Sonic
No fucking shit you retarded bastard. The werehog's gameplay was like a breather after those frantic as fuck day time stages. The two styles of gameplay balance each other out just fine.
>The whole game is bogged down with bullshit and you're delusional if you think Unleashed is some sort of fucking masterpiece
Unleashed IS a masterpiece. You're the delusional one you fucking idiot.
>That story
>Those gorgeous jaw-dropping graphics
>That music
>The fun as fuck day time levels and the equally good werehog stages to balance each other out

At this point I'm 100% sure that you fucking niggers are just offended at the fact that you have to play these playstyles, rather than at the actual play style themselves. And that just irritates the fuck outta me if I'm gonna be honest. You're delusional fucking idiots. Neck yourselves
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>>377772605
It is boring as fuck you retard. I wouldn't mind it if it wasn't so fucking boring. It's not a breather. It's just a waste of time. Kirby's Epic Yarn has more shit going on than most of the Werehog.

>story
Oh boy another edgy Final Fantasy boss
>music
Too bad you can't hear it in the Werehog stages

Also shit that has nothing to do with the shitty gameplay decisions
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>>377772605
>Werehog levels are good because my autism says so
>Uh no, it's shit for these reasons
>Proceeds to scream like a man child and basically argue "nuh uh you're wrooooooong"


Fucking kill yourself sperg.
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>>377767156
>Because they realized they needed to make new stages for fans to give a shit?
Then blame Iizuka for that shit. God you sound like a faggot, everything based on old content was his idea, not Taxman's.

And it's not a bloody romhack, everything is remade from scratch with a entirely recreated engine.
>>377771664
It will have half and half, old and new, with at most ~7 levels newly created with ~7 old zones with a 3rd act and revisioned new areas completely new from the originals. That's 14 zones, as many as Sonic 3&K had. And if this game sells like hot cakes, it could get a sequel, with more than likely COMPLETELY NEW AND UNIQUE STAGES. Just be grateful we're even getting a game like this in the first place, instead of asking more than you shouldn't have expected with that faggot Iizuka killing Sonic has he has been doing since Heroes.
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>>377772605
>You're talking through your ass right now, as what you fucking IDIOTS who talk shit about these games usually do.

Then explain why there's depth you dumb autist. All you do is come on here and scream like a child and call people the n-word instead of backing up your points. The Werehog is shit and doesn't even have half the depth of a DMC game.

>The only part where this ever happens in the entire god damn game is day time Adabat, even then it's excusable because it's a beautiful stage with lots of shit going on. You're fucking nitpicking at this point you piece of shit. How pathetic can you get?

It's not nitpicking mongoloid. The game is capped at 30 fps on Xbox 360 and runs anywhere from 45-20 fps on PS3. Even on the Xbox the framerate tanks all the fucking time. It even tanks on the shitty Werehog stages. Playing Sonic games at less than 60 fps is shit and inexcusable. Kill yourself.
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>>377766024
spinball brought us "the buttons"
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>>377768825
SEGA could have easily just made Sonic 2-2, hell any company would just tack a bunch of levels together with an excuse plot. But instead went all pout with some crazy shit about the Death Egg and a floating Island.

Seriously the pc version's manual is like three pages long and pretty much sets up Sonic Adventure's story before it even happened.
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>>377771156
and the comic was at least
and the 3ds games
well mostly fire and ice
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>>377775038
I'm just waiting for another Ride now that the comic is finally over.

Sonic games never really worked in 3D but most of the 2D are fun.
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>>377775234

Ride won't happen until Archie actually confirms that the comic is canned, which won't happen anytime soon because Archie can't be assed to reimburse.
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>>377775234
we have sonic mania

and I'm still looking forward to sonic forces
even though I can't make anything close to my OC I made when I was twelve
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>>377773041
>has nothing to say and can't even counter my arguments, instead uses the words "autism" and "man-child"

Nah, you kill yourself you parasite
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Just watch the cartoon with Long John Baldry as Robotnik. Don't play any of the games.
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Sonic will never be good
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>>377773991
I'm just going to repeat what I said earlier. I 100% know without a doubt that you piece of shit idiots are offended at the thought of this playstyle, rather than how it actually plays and how it works itself, and because of that, nothing you say should be taken seriously. Your "opinions" are worthless. You're doing nothing more than to fill the average /v/ quota by saying the game is shit just because your life is that miserable. You lot literally cannot form your own opinions. You lead a disgusting piece of shit existence. You'd be better off dead. Imagine living a life in such delusion and being wrong in literally everything you do. That's you right there.
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>>377776109
He's good in my eyes, and my opinion is the only opinion that matters. Fuck you and your worthless existence parasite. It must suck leading such a dull and soulless life.
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>>377764828
Haha wow angry much?
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>>377776448
>"I like eating shit and that's all that matters!"
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These are the only good characters to come out of the franchise

Froggy and Chaos are also acceptable
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>>377776952
I'm just sad the comic might not last long enough to make Captain rescue canon.
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>>377776620
Nice projection there m8. Aren't you the one that gobbles down and feasts upon shit like it's his duty? Tell me, what video game franchises do you like? This is gonna be good
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>>377777148
Im sad Im losing my fucking husband because of Penders
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>>377766987
I don't think any video game franchise has needed delays more than Sonic.
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Music and Story are Sonic's greatest strengths in my opinion. Even the buttrock in Sonic Adventure was god tier. And Sonic 3's use of story telling was the ideal form of story telling for a video game industry.
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I fucking hate Boostshit.
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>>377765165
>then i played them again
So did I. For fuck's sake they are always a foot away from me on my Playstation 3. One thread someone told me to "play them again", so I did immediately. Played through some Final Rush and White Jungle. Still fucking great.
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>most of the thread is actually discussing the series coherently and respectfully for once
>except for like two guys who are unspeakably, irrationally angry
I wish more threads were like this.
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>>377779408
I wish there was a third unspeakably, irrationally angry poster in the thread.
Just to shake things up.
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>>377776952
What about knuckles?.
What abour rouge?.
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>>377777148
>out of shape heroes
lewd
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>>377774134
Spin ball was sick, but everyone knows Dr.Robotniks Mean Bean Machine was the best spin off
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>>377780562
Fuck off.
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>>377780562
>either of those
>the best spinoff

Tails Adventures
Sonic Battle
Sonic Shuffle
Sonic the Fighters
Sonic R
Sonic Chronicles

All say hello faggot
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>All these faggots saying whatever bullshit is the best spin off when the title of best spin off is between Sonic Battle and Sonic R
Whatever, we'll never get anywhere debating this.


Posting best music instead
https://youtu.be/Oc81dfPGdh4
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>>377781091
>Sonic Chronicles
Should have left that out of the list.
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Anyone got a good torrent for the Sonic Boom tv series?
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>>377781091
>Chronicles

You're going to get eaten alive, but I also didn't mind it. I've only ever seen people complain about the music.
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>>377781091
>Tails adventure
Cool dude I totally wanna play as the shittiest character
>Sonic Battle
shit fighting game, next
>Sonic Shuffle
Mario Party but less mini-games and no die
>Sonic the Fighters
Another shit fighting game
>Sonic R
The Soundtrack is SICK but the gameplay blows
>Sonic Chronicles
Cmon' dude what are you doing??
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>>377781679
>>377781803
>>377781879
>All these chronicles haters
Why tho

And
>>377781879
You can't possibly beleive that a fucking tetris clone even comes close to being as good any of these "shitty" games.
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>>377781879
>shittiest character
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The best spinoffs are without a doubt the sumo racing games. Sonic does terrible with spin offs, see all the game gear shit, sonic battle, sonic r, shadow.
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>>377782131
It's actually a Puyo Puyo clone, not Tetris, and Puyo Puyo is pretty good.
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>>377763086
>playing through heroes now
>at the fucking rail level
this isn't enjoyable
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>>377781283

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSMK7b7DLrE
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>>377782218
Wrong, Puyo Puyo is a Bean Machine clone, look it up dumb nigger.
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>>377782237
Why would you do something so masochistic anon. Heroes is not enjoyable in the least, not to me anyways.
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>>377782407
Can you link me your source of information? I can't seem to find anything that supports your statement.
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>>377782131
>puyo puyo
>tetris clone

the fucks the matter with you?
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>>377782476
I love sonic but haven't beat all the games so I beating all the ones I haven't yet.
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>>377782407
Then the clone is better because it learned to do offsetting and All Clears.
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multiplesimultaneousdefensivegottagofastdeepstrikes
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>>377763861
>SA1-2 suck ass. This is where the series lost its identity and fell apart.
>Heroes is okay.

Heroes was far worse than the Adventure games at tarnishing the series IMO
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>>377782597
>>377782618
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puyo_Puyo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Robotnik%27s_Mean_Bean_Machine
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>>377782975
>The first Puyo Puyo title was developed by Compile released in 1991
>Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine...was first released for the Mega Drive in North America and Europe in November 1993
Alright, one of us is is either a retard or dyslexic.
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>>377782975
Oh, reading further gave me this:
>Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine is the Western release of Puyo Puyo and replaces all of its characters with those from the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise
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>>377763861
>SA1 and SA2 are ass
>but Heroes and Shadow are okay
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>>377783178
>>377783284
>that time anon found out you were dyslexic
fuck dude, sorry about that nigger comment
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>>377763861
>Every gameboy game is great.
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>>377783343
You are forgiven, my son.
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>>377783406
sonic advance trilogy wasn't that bad
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>>377763861
That's a very nice/high quality render

Too bad the Werehog design wasn't kept and used in future games.
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>>377783475
The third game wasn't that good, and only the first game could be called "great".
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>>377783475
You can't honestly lump all three games into a single level of quality.
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>>377763861
>heroes better than SA1/2

Nigga you got that bass ackwards.
Heroes is the worst of the first 3 3D games. Did you forget the cutscenes? the "story"? Having to play it like four times through to get to the final boss?
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>>377783587
The second game's problem was really everything but the gameplay

It was so retarded to take the bonuses that were readily available from the first game and make you unlock them this time around (ESPECIALLY Amy). Not only that, but it has the worst special stage/Chaos Emerald system in the entire series.
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>>377782975
Weirdly around the same time another game that was just a Puyo Puyo clone came out. Kirby's Avalanche
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>>377783825
Yeah, that's why I didn't call the second game bad. It's good for mindless fun when you just want to just rush through levels.
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>>377783854
Fun fact. Kirby's Avalanche came out a year after Puyo Puyo 2 did, but still based itself on Puyo Puyo 1. Dumb borb.
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>>377763617
>>377768053
And this is the Sonic fandom in a nutshell
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>>377763861
So much shit taste in this post. I didn't come here to see this.
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>>377784053
Guessing they made it while Puyo Puyo 1 was around and sat on it for a year.
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>>377783854
neither of those games are clones, they are actual puyo puyo games with the little girls, burly fish, and satan filed off so they could sell it in the west
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>>377763861
I love Unleashed too my man but I would hardly call it the greatest platformer. Best boost game though. Generations boost2slow.
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>>377763086
Sonic Lost world is the only game in the series that's not shit.

The 2D games are good but all suffer from being 2D so you can't see shit in front of you and the fast has to be on rails to be fair.

Adventure has fucking garbage controls. '06 is just damn broken. Boost is more of a racing game than a platformer and all of the boost games have to have a different pointless gimmick for no reason.

Lost World has tight platforming, expansive level design that rewards exploration and requires skill to go faster. Is not afraid of being difficult and having difficult shortcuts. It does have 2D levels but is otherwise unapologetically 3D.

Sonic was always Mario on crack. And Lost World being Galaxy on crack is just fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH3jNLX8IRo
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>>377785468
You can beat the first stage with only holding forward.

You're describing the 3ds version since the console one is boring and slow
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>>377784846
my main problem with generations is they give out S ranks for nothing, so improving your time is meaningless, in unleashed at least you have to work a little for it
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>>377785762
>the first stage is easy
wow, good argument
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>>377785762
>You're describing the 3ds version
No he isn't because he left out the part about unnecessary gyro controls and some of the shittiest most questionable level design in a Sonic game. Lost World 3DS was a fucking mistake.
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>>377785821
It speaks plenty about the level design of the game, all the tube levels are just holding forward and the fact the one of them is beatable with just 1 input is stupid
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I want someone to tell me how it's wrong for some fans to want Adventure to come when the Classicucks threw mariotehplumber-tier tantrums at Sega for decades until the company finally decided to give in and cater the entire franchise to their piss-baby asses?
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>>377785940
I can think of several places where just holding forward will get you killed, fuck off
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>>377785902
It's galaxy on crack, so yes he is
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>>377785992
forces looks pretty adventure tier autistic
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>>377786000
In the first stage, no there isn't

In other stages maybe but changing direction for 3 seconds doesn't change the linear layout
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The best part about Sonic is the comics

The worst part about Sonic is the comics
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>>377785992
Because the Adventure games are shit.
Classicfags were justified in autistic screeching because the Genesis trilogy were great.
Adventure and Adventure 2 are mostly trash.
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>>377786075
yes there is, just running into spikes for example, or getting bounced off the level by sheep
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>>377766043
Hidrocity is one of the best sonic stages ever.
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>>377786091
>Knuckles will never have his fly as fuck cowboy hat because Sega's a bitch about licensing on the OVA
>Echo the Dolphin, Honey the Cat, and many more will never be in any canon game as a nice little way of making the world that much more deep and interesting
>We'll never get any level of fancy referential shit; it'll stay "Green Hill Zone" for the umpteenth time before SEGA finally crashes and burns the series to the ground again to revive it only once more.

Archive may take it seriously, but goddamn, I wouldn't mind it if SEGA threw that obscure shit a bone or two in any of their releases.
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>>377780562
Pick your boy
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>>377786139
The classic games literally don't work in 3D. Sonic would have died ages ago if they continued to make Sonic 1 for your asses every year.

And besides. Most of you fags hate Adventure because you suck at it. I've seen videos of fags like you. You play like you have down syndrome and blame the game for it.
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>>377786307
But knuckles hat was destroyed :^)
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>>377786202
spikes don't kill you,and they are hardly in your way when holding right, sheep don't throw you off the stage on the section they're on, neither of these kill you or change the fact that you can hold forward throughout it all
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>>377786418
you're delusional, don't know what to tell you
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>>377786398
Talking about a full-upfront reference to the hat within an entirely different setting, Anon. Give it a rest for loopholes and other unnecessary bullshit - that doesn't equate when it's imagery based on material presented before, be it destroyed or not.
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>>377786528
at least you tried
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>>377784846
>those speeds you could reach in Unleashed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SklhwTr3Ls
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There's no denying that Adventure 1/2 have a truckload of camera, physics and control problems, but they're still pretty fun when you go through a level smoothly.
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>>377784846
Unleashed is a terrible game and you only like it because it looks pretty.

People even go as far as saying Chip's death was sad. Excuse fucking me but I believe Sonic Battle ends with Sonic being forced to fucking kill Emerl yet nobody ever talks about that shit
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>>377785468
i need to replay lost worlds it's been a year
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>>377786784
that's because nobody finished sonic battle
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>>377786784
>Unleashed is a terrible game and you only like it because it looks pretty.
Nigger, fuck you. I like it because its fast even if its one rails at times. Don't tell me why I like something again or I'll take my belt off and beat you like your dead daddy should've.
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>>377786848
I did, one of the last fights was pretty challening.
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>>377784347
Guess I thought Kirby was a clone since I think Puyo Puyo as a Sega game. And while they were willing to loan their IP for NES during the 16 bit they where a bit more strict on keeping them on Sega systems.
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Post favorite games in order:
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Adventure
Shadow the hedgehog
Sonic Battle
Sonic Shuffle
Sonic the Fighters
Sonic R
Sonic 2
Sonic advance 2

Post games you have mixed feelings about:
Sonic Chronicles
Sonic Sega Allstars Racing
Sonic Sega Allstars Racing transformed
Sonic unleashed
Sonic colors
Sonic Advance
Sonic 06

Post least favorite games(in no particular order):
Sonic 1
Sonic 3
Sonic 4
Sonic 3D Blast
Sonic Heroes
Sonic Secret Rings
Sonic Black Knight
Sonic Riders
Sonic Free riders
Sonic Generations
Sonic Rush
Sonic Boom
Sonic Lost World
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>>377787321
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>>377787321
I forgot Sonic & Knuckles for favorite games, sorry
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>>377787357
People only meme when they say they like the classic games. They are boring as fuck, but "Muh childhood!".
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Everyone fill this out.
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>>377787513
Here's mine.
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>>377764828
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>>377787513
Too lazy
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>>377786784
It's the last game before they got those horrible new voices/writers.

At this rate the series is just going to turn into Sonic Boom style self referential meme humor (Not that it isn't sometimes funny)
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>>377787502
nice. nice. nice.
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>>377763861
unleashed is a racing game
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>>377787296
sega didn't loan jack shit. compile owned puyo puyo then sold it to sega so they could stay afloat for a few more years before they died
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>>377786769
is black knight actually worth playing? and can you play it on pc with a xbone controller? (that's how I played colors)
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>>377763861
>Unleashed is the greatest platformer of all time
>Shadow the Hedgehog is okay

Dude, what?
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>>377787847
You should definitely give it a go, it's one of the my favourite spin offs; I imagine you can map it to standard controller quite easily, other people have.
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>>377787513
Can't be bothered finding a million pictures and resizing them, so I just wrote the names

Fire and Ice will go down as an unappreciated game I believe. Its incredibly average, but while it lasts, its also incredibly fun. Its always satisfying hitting a rail of dragon rings and the levels have lots of flow to them. Its also the best and most creative zones since Colors.
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>Classic Era
Sonic 1 aged like milk
Sonic 2 aged like fine wine
Sonic CD did so too, but you should really play the 2011 remake. It fixes any and all gripes the game had.
Sonic 3 can only be enjoyed by playing the whole package: Sonic 3 & Knuckles. The game is a fucking masterpiece
3D Blast is trash
Spinball is dumb, but fun. Expect shit music.
Chaotix has some good level design that rivals CD, but poor gameplay choices
Chaos was fun but pathetically easy
Triple Trouble fixes Chaos' issues.
Tails Adventures was a fun Metroidvania
>Modern Era
Adventure aged poorly, but it still has its charm.
Adventure 2 aged better and has better gameplay, but the story and dialogue is pathetic.
Heroes is Adventure 2 if you went back to the Genesis-era plots. The gameplay is fun. Avoid the PS2/PS3 version at all costs.
Shadow is meh.
06 is one hell of a trainwreck
Sonic Advance was a nice throwback
Sonic Advance 2 was infuriating and the difficulty comes from the balls-to-the-wall retarded level design
Sonic Advance 3 perfected the Sonic Advance formula
>Boost-to-Win Era
Rush was great and the music was bangin'
Rush Adventure wanted to be as good as Rush but simply couldn't
Unleashed's only upside were the daytime stages.
Sonic 4 Episode I was pathetic.
Sonic 4 Episode II was a step in the right direction, but it just doesn't reach the levels of fun seen in the Genesis-era, GBA-era or DS-era 2D Sonic games.
Colors was more of the same of Unleashed's daytime stages. Fun, but it gets boring fast.
Generations is mad fun, but holy fuck is it short.
I never played Lost World.
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>ywn cum inside Miles tight boi pucci
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>>377785468
>Lost World is the only game that isn't shit
>It's the least "Sonic" Sonic game in the core series and spits in the face of what made the original games fun to play

So you just don't like Sonic as a concept then. I mean, that's fine if you feel that way, but understand that that is what you are saying.
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>>377788004
Wow. I can agree to ALL of this. Well done.
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>>377788017
>boi pucci
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>>377787951
alright I'll have to try it after I finish with heroes
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>>377788105

Thanks friend.
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>>377788004
That's actually a pretty accurate list, my man.
I agree with almost everything.
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>>377788158
Edit this with a dick and ill love you forever anon
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>>377788219
>Accurate
But anon, these are opinions we are discussing, not facts.
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>>377785468
cont'd.
__2006__ is the second best game in the series. If not for the horrible bugs and lack of polish which is probably because they had to skip beta testing for time. The controls are not quite as good as Lost World, but the levels share the expansive designs where exploring and platforming skill to go faster is key. Unlike Lost World, it is unapologetically 3D. There are no 2D sections. And the mach speed sections make for a nice way to have going fast levels without compromising the platforming gameplay such as boost does. If there is one major flaw it's probably overuse of on rails sections. But the better designed levels more than make up for it.
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>>377788316
>that first sentence
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Respond to this post if you think 06 wasnt as bad as Lost World or Boom
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>>377788004
>Shadow is meh
While I agree with most things you said personally Shadow is so god damn insane that I can help but love it. They basically made a character they had no idea what to do with and just decided to do the one thing no could think of. But luckily not a massive trainwreck like 06 so still playable.
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@377788427
>06 wasnt as bad as Lost World

Yeah, it was a million times worse
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>>377788023
none of the 3D game have momentum. deal with it nerd. it's still a good game
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>>377763086

Original trilogy is the best the series has to offer. CD is pretty good too, though the black sheep of the old games. Your mileage may vary with Adventure games, some say they suck, others love them. Most people feel like the series went downhill when it went 3D, particularly when Heroes and Shadow The Hedgehog surfaced. 06 is universally hated. Unleashed has some very mixed reception. Some swear by it, others hate it. The Gamegear games are the least controversial titles in the series. Most people just forget they even exist, so there's generally no discussion about them. Personally, I liked them, but then I grew up with these games. Most people just treat them as games that aren't particularly offensive to the Sonic franchise. This is probably because they were never meant to be anything more than affordable Sonic games. Software for people who couldn't afford consoles at the time, mere spinoffs. If many of the games in the franchise like Secret Rings and Shadow The Hedgehog were treated as side projects, or spinoffs if you will, they probably wouldn't be as hated. Like these games, people might have been more forgiving of any flaws present in titles like Heroes, because they would simply be considered experiments not meant to be the next step in Sonic's evolution.
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>>377788427
lost world wasn't that bad and boom on 3ds was good
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>>377788427
agreed

06 is better than both. i did enjoy sonic boom fire and ice though. but the wii u is EASILY the lowest point of sonics entire life. holy fuck what a disaster 2013-2015 was.
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>>377763861

>SA1-2 suck ass
Alright I can see why someone would sa-
>This is where the series lost its identity
Okay now you're actually wrong.
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>>377788316
Funny. I don't agree with anything you said about Lost Cause, but I will certainly say that 06's levels in a proper engine are a blast to play. Flawless? Hell no, but still a blast. If you have Generations on PC, give the 06 pack a try if you haven't already. It gives you a new appreciation for what 06 was trying to accomplish and it ain't half bad. Mach Speed sections are especially fun since they're actually faster than the originals while still being far more controllable.

>>377788427
Yeah. At least Sonic 2006 was a Sonic Game. It wasn't a failed Mario clone, nor a failed Ratchet and Clank clone.

>>377788531
Clearly you've never done a Spindash Jump in Adventure for speed-running purposes.
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>>377788551
CD is the best of all the classic games, as you are actually able to run free
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>>377788741
the levels are not compatible with boost physics, maybe if there's a mod that makes the handling more like the original
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>>377788316

Well, there were other problems present in 06 as well. Like the Adventure games, they threw in other shit that nobody really cared about. Everyone just wanted to go fast, they didn't want slow sections where Sonic carries Elis, or playing as Robotnik/Tails in a slow ass mech.

What they needed to do was just make a bunch of Sonic/Shadow levels, and actually take time to play test the game. That alone would have made 06 fun.
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>>377771975
>Sonic 1 was run of the mill for its era
Spotted the faggot who never played actual run of the mill games from 1991.
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>>377788817
There is a physics mod included that tones down Sonic's top speed and nerfs the Boost a bit. Honestly, you're not going to want to Boost much at all unless you're in a Mach Speed section.
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>>377788769

Run free? Not sure what you mean by that. As in, explore?
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>>377788870
Sonic 1 wasn't that great when it launched. It was fun sure but there was much better platformers at that time. And a few months later Mario World came out and no one had a chance to beat that.
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>>377771975

I wouldn't exactly call it run of the mill. It was pretty revolutionary for its time. It did momentum based platforming like no other game at the time. While it wasn't as fast as its successors, and lacked spindash, you still ran at blistering speeds.
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>>377788868
silver as a physics tech demo isn't a bad idea I don't think. Remember this was a next gen launch title they had to show off that shiny new CPU.
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>>377789042

World came out before Sonic 1. Unless you're just talking about the western release date here.
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>>377789042
Not being Mario World and being run of the mill are two points on a chart with a vast gulf between them. Sonic 1 was far above the average shit being pushed out by the mill.
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>>377787513
shit taste incoming
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>>377763086
OK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w9PukG97oQ
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>>377788997
>SA2 is dogshit
>heroes
>rush
>rush adventure
>underrated
I want you to leave
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>>377788427

'06 is better than Boom any day, but as much as I despise Lost World I can at least say it is at least decent on its own merit and better than '06.
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>>377789224
>SA2 isn't dogshit
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>>377789224
SA2 is an absolute fucking clusterfuck.

I couldn't believe what I was playing. The gameplay was clunky, the Knuckles/Rouge missions were godawful, as were half of Sonic/Shadows. The Tails/Eggman levels had me in disbelief. The story was appealing, and even the multiplayer was broken.

Heroes was a return to the simpler more vibrant and fun level design and was just a lot more relaxing and enjoyable to play.

Rush and Rush Adventure were very vibrant and it was enjoyable to GO FAAAAAAAAAAAAST in a 2d game. The story was simple but fun. Rush Adventure was even quite comfy with its pirateship/island searching themes.
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>>377789207

Well, Lava Reef, Speed Highway, Ice Cap, and Puppet Panic ARE legitimately good zones. Didn't care for Quartz Quadrant to be honest. I don't know why anyone would like anything about Sonic 4 though. That game made me lose what little faith I had left in Sonic Team.
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is 3d blast a true hidden gem of the series, nae possibly the best?
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>>377789342
>>377789383
>the fanbase is capable of having this much shit taste
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>>377789449

I unironically like 3D Blast. It's not my favorite, but I have genuine affection towards that game. Could just be nostalgia talking though
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>>377789467

I don't think the Sonic fanbase is united in any opinion regarding the games in this franchise. We have people who like 06, people who hate the original trilogy, and people who think the Gamegear games are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

I can't think of a more splintered fanbase
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>>377789498
>>377789449
I have a bit of nostalgia for it too, but even through the nostalgia I remember there being some god awful shit in it, so it's probably worse than I remember
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>>377789467
Right? Some people actually think SA2 was good.
Freaks, the lot of them.
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>>377789597

Well, I know for a fact that the special stages sucked. They were legit trash
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>>377789574
This is all Sonic Team's fault. Honestly after adventure 1, nothing at all should have been changed except maybe adding new characters up to shadow and rouge, adding new levels, and improving the controls.
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>>377789659
The Saturn version was pretty cool, even if they were the half-pipe again.
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>>377789838

The design of the half pipe reminds me of Sonic Advance 2's floor. The texture and color somewhat. It's got that weird pseudo 3D vibe to it.
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>>377789498
>>377789597
i played it for the first time not too long ago on saturn version. i only disliked it because it is long with no saving, but its good fun
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>>377777777
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>>377763409
>caring about the writing in a Sonic game
Has any Sonic game had good writing? Who fucking gives a shit?

Of all the complaints for Forces I've seen this has to be the stupidest one.
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>>377787513
There you go.
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>>377790736
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>>377790736
TL;DR
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>>377786091
>The best part about Sonic is the TV series
FTFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6mzBjFtcBc
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>>377787513
Here ya go doc

>>377787558
Mah nigga of good taste
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>>377782237
Bingo Highway didn't scare you away?
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Why are Chaos Emerald stages consistently the worst part of the games? Sonic 2'd be loads better if it wasn't for that shitty half pipe
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>>377792082
Why does everybody hate the half pipe? I enjoyed it more than shitty hard to control blue spheres
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>>377792082
i actually found sonic 1 special stages enjoyable but ive never found the appeal in the others. theyare fun to navigate and really challenge your knowledge of the levels.
>tfw we will only ever get the mobilegame tier special stages from now on
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>>377792467
>half pipe moves at like 4 frames a second
>tails keeps running into the fucking mines
>sometimes the mines/rings are after blind turns

I've never gotten all the emeralds outside of 1/Generations. I remember Heroes having far worse pipes though
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>>377792082
Obligatory
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>>377792736
Such terrible taste
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>>377792476
>>377792082
Any knowledge of what Mania will have?
>Sonic 1 tilt thing
Was interesting and might be the most enjoyable personally.
>Sonic 2 half-pipe
Fuck that shit. You pretty much had to play either completely alone the whole game or 2 players.
>The blue orb collecting
Hate that shit. It's just full on memorization and not really about having fun. You move way to fast near the end to know what the fuck you are doing unless you fail a shit ton.
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>>377792736
>>377792736
>le sunick 3 is le best at everything xD

The rush games have the best special stages easily. Have to give it to rush adventure for keeping it familar yet making exhilarating and new
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>>377792736
>heroes higher than cesspool
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>>377792812
Lets see yours, hot shot. Also you should've seen this coming but not an argument
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Just play 3D Blast
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>>377792826
i recall there actually being information i just dont recall. probably blue spheres
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>>377792826
>>377793000
No Blue Spheres.
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>>377770783
>everyone who shits on the werehog is just parroting opinions and hasn't played it
kek
change your tampon Unleashedfag
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>>377793065
Wonder what is his opinion on the special stages. Honestly I never really found them that interesting at best and just frustrating at worse.
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>>377792891
Make me.
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