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Now that the dust has settled Is it a good game?

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Now that the dust has settled

Is it a good game?
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>>377718216
Its a terrible Zelda game
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Nintendo flavored Ubisoft clone.
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Good for one playthrough then it gets tedious.
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>>377718216
It's decent. Overrated by nintenbros tho
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>>377718216
No.
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yes.
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>>377718216
I liked the gay twink porn people made of link
I'm straight btw
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>>377718216
It definitely is, but what do I also feel the urge to go back to WW and TP?
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>>377719795
No, you're not
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>>377719939
If they are shaved and feminine how is it gay?
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>>377720008
There's no such thing as a feminine penis
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>>377719887
It's like poetry
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Not as good as every other 3D Zelda.

Nobody is gonna replay this game after their first playthrough.
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>>377720058
>There's no such thing as a feminine penis
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It's a Ubisoft open world game with a Nintendo skin
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>>377720627
Post one if you want to prove me wrong
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>>377718216
Yep, it's the best 3D Zelda since MM.
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>>377720521
I feel more of a urge to replay BotW than I feel sitting through TP or SS' hours long tutorials ever again.
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>>377720824
You have no fucking taste
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>>377720970
TP and SS were fucking shit. WW was okay but way too flawed and unfinished. BotW is easily the best 3D Zelda since MM, no contest.
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>>377718216
Of course it is. Its probably the best game in the series overall.
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>>377718216
Joseph Anderson told me it's not a good Zelda game, and i believe whatever comes out of his retarded mouth
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>>377721085
If you like shitty ubisoft collectathon open world games then maybe
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>>377721572
Push your tongue out and lick my sphincter
Don't stop until i tell you so
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>>377721167
That looks emptier than No Mans Sky.
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>>377718216
Absolutely
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>>377721796
Hurrrrr
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Good game. Bad Zelda game.
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lol fuck no
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>>377721897
I can't tell what you're saying, don't try to talk while you're sucking my anus
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>>377718216
yeah, feels a lot like the original and I loved it
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>>377721887
>polygon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pQ0oO_cDE
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It really is Ubisoft-tier open world game no matter how much fanboys try to convince people otherwise

Nothing in the world except shrines and seeds
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>>377721887
You can hear that Metro reviewer counting his bribe in that statement.
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Yes. It's the Zelda 1 sequel I always wished for. The exploration, lack of tutorials and combat are the best of any 3D Zelda so far. The game does not care about following a formula, it's just an honest to good action adventure which put it next to Majora's Mask as my personal favourite.
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Good physiscs, mediocre open world, below average combat and terrible story.
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>>377718216
It's a bad "Zelda game". It's an above average open world game. If you bought it and a Switch expecting Zelda you probably have buyer's remorse, but if you bought it expecting an open world game you probably are happy with your purchase.
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>>377722602
>mediocre open world
Elaborate
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>>377718216
Nintendo Assassin's Creed

decades of game design throwaway for a checkmark open world.

Its a shame
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>>377720521
The only reason I am replaying it right now is because I want to save it for when the DLC hits.
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>>377718216
>All of these retards unironically saying "it's bad Zelda game"
Damn, if i could sell lollipops in the shape of Jospeh Anderson's dick to /v/, i'd make a killing
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>>377723209
Isn't the dlc just a new difficulty and some cosmetics?
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>>377722886
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>>377723462
Who?
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>>377722602
>below average
lmao
It's exactly average, if not slightly above because most devs don't even know how to make combat at least feel good
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>>377723547
Not really. There is more.
But no matter. It'd still prefer to wait for that. It's not long away from now anyway.
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>>377720627
Is that Andy Herren?
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>>377722283
Zelda 1 is shit
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>>377718216
It's a good game.
If you still have to play it don't buy into fanboy bullshit like "it's the best Zelda ever made" or "it's the game of the decade" or you'll be disappointed.
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>>377718216
The dust really has settled because there's nothing else to play
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>>377718403
>Its a terrible Zelda game
This.
>FOUR 15-minutes long dungeons
>120 useless shrines
>braindead puzzles with occasional "MUH PHYSICS" meme
>terrible bossfights
>no music
>LITERALLY NO FUCKIN MUSIC 95% OF TIME
>no musical instrument
>false advertisement in the trailers
>everything interesting happened 100 years ago
>lack of enemies variety
>durability for rare weapons
>bows and rods durability
>Kaas is straight
>20 fps in general
>imbecile pig as a final boss
>there are actually nothing to explore, each building is empty, Korok Seeds and shrines everywhere
>97/100
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>>377723750
>the wii u is dead haha
good one, anon

any other facts you want to state?
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>>377722886
Mediocre = not goor or bad.
It serves its purpose but doesn't add anything that hasn't been done before in other games. It does it better than some but also hinders the world by disconecting shrines from the it, providing some "from the the anciente world" context. It has clever landmarks but also sense of emptyness to get there. Its fun to explore but tedious to backtrack once visited.
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>>377723859
There should've been four more dungeons like Hyrule Castle
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>>377723880
I was going to use a dusty switch to shitpost but I couldn't find a picture
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>>377723859
>braindead puzzles
>terrible bossfights
yep, it's a zelda game
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>>377723859
>Kaas is straight
reminder to ignore gay opinions
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>>377718216
It's the best game ever made
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>>377718216
yes, although the mechanics do not have a large enough breadth to be interesting for its giant world, and you reach endgame in terms of scaling of enemies after having explored like 25 percent of the map
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>>377723859
>>Kass is straight

Stop fucking reminding me.
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>>377723961
>dungeons like Hyrule Castle
It's not even a dungeon. Just bunch of square rooms and some ladders with no puzzles and the same fuckin Moblins and Lizalfos as an enemies.
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>>377724517
But it was fun because it still had secrets to find if you were willing to explore. I enjoyed it more than a lot of recent Zelda dungeons
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>>377724517
>no puzzles
What?? How can it be a dungeon without puzzles...???
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>>377722261
he's right tho...
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>>377724648
>secrets to find
>secrets
Room behind the locker. That's it.

>I enjoyed it more than a lot of recent Zelda dungeons
It's ok to have autism.
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>>377724984
>Room behind the locker. That's it.

The Royal Guard weapons, the Hylian Shield, several Korok Seeds, a Stone Talus underground
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>>377718216
Its a step forward in just sheer freedom for the player in open world games compared to the last 5 years.

It gets repetitive and stale after youve played for a bit. The lack of enemy variety and actual meaningful perminant rewards sucks and the slate abilities dont hold a candle to the fun puzzle solving of the old games. Physics puzzles are a meme and just always feel shitty compared to good dungeon design. The shrines not being built into the world except for a handful gets tedious given the open world has so much more potential for variety.

Also fuck the golf puzzles.
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>>377724984
>calls others autistic
>whines about this Zelda dungeon not having puzzles like all his other precious Zelda dungeons
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>>377723632
But it doesn't feel good. Once you are used to z lock you might think it's not bad but it's actually just a slight improvement over ocarina of time. The slow down of enemies give you an unfair advantage, breaking the "1v1 engagement". Fumbling through different 3 different menus while in combat is not fun either, you get used to but breaks the battle tension, giving you a feeling of safeness every time you want. Choosing a weapon based on its durability shoudln't be even consider as a combat tactic. Maybe just a few weapons should be breakable, but have to be of value. You should choose weapons due enemies weakness or counter picking an strategy against them.
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>>377725092
>weapons
Useless shit.

>Hylian Shield
Useless shit

>Korok Seeds, a Stone Talus
Are you fucking serious? What kind of mental illness is it?
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>>377725335
>>Hylian Shield
>Useless shit
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>>377725335
As apposed to those totally useful items from other Zelda games.
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>>377725335
>it's useless because I say so
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>>377725335
Shitpost softer, friendo.
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>>377725335
>find hidden rare weapon
>mark it on your map
>can now pick it up after each blood moon
Woooooow so useless.
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>>377725470
It's useless because they implemented their precious retarded breakable equipment mechanic.
Stop acting like an idiot, BotWfag.
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>>377718216
It's the zelda game that makes you wish you were playing pretty much any other zelda instead.
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>>377725845
>being this retarded
Try reading before you post faggot >>377725727
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>>377719887
Because you have terrible taste
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>>377725845
>its a durability crybaby
I bet you complain about time limits too, you filthy casual.
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>>377722283
>Zelda 1 sequel I always wished for
What's wrong with 2?
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>>377725845
Imagine being too casual for a literally Zelda game, wow.
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>>377723859
Kill yourself autistic faggot.
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>>377721873
I never thought of it like that. Those BotW collages look just like the NMS collages people made when there was still people hyped for it.
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It's easily better than garbage games like Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword
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I don't like the way link controls, he fills stiff to me
>diving animation
>cant swim underwater
>drowns in puddles
>can swim upstream
>moves at a snail's pace on leveled water
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They made 75% off the content unrewarding golden skulltula clones.
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>>377726012
>weapon durability discourages fighting anything
>figure out fighting anything is usually a waste of time anyways
>game divolves into a climbing simulator where you just climb tall shit and look for orange shinys
>people unironically think the game is good
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>>377726465
you should figure out that you're wasting your time playing videogames you autistic nigger
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>>377726465
>>figure out fighting anything is usually a waste of time anyways

how so?
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>>377726465
Except it respawns you mongoloid, the whole idea is to find the best weapon spawn locations and gather that shit up for the ganon fight. If you are actually avoiding fights to save durability then your just retarded.
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>>377726465
>weapon durability discourages fighting anything
Only for hoarding autists.
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Where does a woodcutting axe respawn
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>>377726643
>kill enemies with good weapon
>lose good weapon and get bad weapon

There's no reason to fight any random enemies unless you really want their shitty monster parts. Only ones worth fighting are lynels for weapons and talus for their ore. Maybe Hinox if you want to make easy Mon.
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>>377725446
Not him but bottles, quivers and bomb bags made a big difference and often had different quests tied to them. It was very substantial to find one.
Other Zelda games often have optional items, too, such as Lens of Truth in OOT and MM.
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>no hand to hand combat
>cant punch
>cant kick (chests don't count)
>no gauntlets
>no fisticuffs
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>>377726643
Fighting the same 3 enemies over and over again stops being fun after a while and mostly drop weapons that are worse than the ones you already have.
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>>377727004
That's why you save good weapons for good fights. And I don't see how the monster parts are "shitty", like, did you even play the game?
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>>377725170
>But it doesn't feel good.
But it does. Weapons crack, snap, apply hitstop, spark, and otherwise are designed to feel great to hit stuff with. Thrown weapons breaking on contact, dealing double damage, and causing knockdown feels incredible, and makes the second-long break where you pick out a new weapon fit better into combat pacing. If you make some vague effort to play the game in a way other than "walk up to the guys and hit them until they die," encounters can feel dynamic and involve a lot of movement. Saying you're managing "three different menus," is disingenuous, one reason being because there are actually four barring the pause and rune menus, and the other being that you're unlikely to manage any more than one during a single fight unless you just happen to have multiple gear pieces about to break. As it stands, you can pretty easily avoid going into a menu at any time during encounters that aren't against lynels because enemies drop their weapons as long as you smack them upside the head with a breaking weapon and they aren't a silver variation with high health.
>You should choose weapons due enemies weakness or counter picking an strategy against them.
And you do? Polearms have long reach and offer hitstun to weaker enemies. Heavy weapons are good against shielded targets or a crowd. Fire or ice elemental weapons instantly kill enemies of the opposite type. Low-durability weapons are great throwing fodder, and throwing is a worthwhile combat option for the reason I mentioned above. Even the korok leaf has some combat use, such as blowing enemies off of cliffs and/or into water (which is valuable because water kills land-based enemies instantly) or keeping fuckers out of the way when doing the flower shrine quest.
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>>377727289
No actually, the combat mechanics in the game are actually pretty good. There's tons of shit you can try and pull off and it controls well.

And shit, you know what weapon they're going to drop, this just means low powered items don't become useless
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>>377726341
>diving animation
so?
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>all these replies
Jesus, BotWfags officially worse than Metroid faggots. Worse than retarded Pokemon fanbase.
I simply can't imagine more disgusting and rotten community than people here who defend their holy cow.
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>>377727316
>shitposting third worlders on /v/ playing games
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>>377727540
>cries when his shitposting gets called out

wew
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>>377727540
Giving up so soon?
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>>377718403
More like BoTW is the only good 3D Zelda.
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>game could have looked more like this on better hardware
not to say the visual design isn't already incredible
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>>377727316
>did you even play the game?
I mean its pretty obvious I did, but here's you (you) if it makes you happy
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>>377727960
>I mean its pretty obvious I did
not really...
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>>377727540
Stay ass blasted, kiddo.
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>>377725845
>shield that can take 30 lasers up the ass before breaking
>useless
Ok
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>>377728035
>directly reference enemies that are worth fighting and what you kill them for
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>>377718216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wtIfAloQqw

IT'S A PIECE OF SHIT
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>>377719167
except its not

Nintendo actually made a open word game fun
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>>377727512
>so
its true that my gripes about the game are minor and don't really mean much but there are things to be said. On the subject of animation, why didn't they animate free falling, instead of that static fall that doesn't change no matter what you do. The paraglider itself needed to be more than just a glider, why couldn't they allow us to dive with the glider, picking up air, and bringing yourself back up for a boost. Gliding could have been really fun
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>>377722247
This.
After 30 shrines or so i quit. Anything else you find is just temporary.
Theres no way i´m going to find a new weapon i can be happy about. no secrets to be found, no proper minidungeons, no nothing.
Using a chicken as a weapon or taming a dog are nice distractions, so is cooking and coloring your armor, but the core gameplay completely revolves around thos fucking boring repetitive shrines they copy pasted all over the map.

I used to get Heartpieces for all sorts of shit but they always have been optional. Now they are the main focus of the game and are completely locked to the shrines.
Out of all those fucking Openworld games, why did they have to emulate assassins creed?
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>>377718216
It's alright. I would say like a 7 for some cool parts, but overall, one of my least favorite Zelda games and the most tedious and boring one overall.

Its literally the first Zelda I didn't 100% and its not because of "good content" but everything was broken up into poorly constructed bite-sized collectables that never felt meaningful to collect.

The only thing that was really well done was world exploration, but as it offered little reward and amounted to nothing but "put ball in hole" physics puzzles, it all felt kinda meh. Xenoblade has a world as nice, but I definitely felt rewarded for exploring.

It's definitely a Zelda I will never play twice.
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it's a fantastic game and a brilliant zelda game that entirely succeeds in its stated goal which was to frre itself from the shackles of the ocarina of time formula

/v/'s anal demolition at the overwhelming triumph this game represents only adds to its legacy
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What's even the point of giving me 5 arrows or 50 rupees in a chest

What a fucking reward. Rupees arent a reward anymore since you can get 50 million of them by blowing up rocks.
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>>377718216

It's a Ubisoft game, better gameplay and world design but much less content.

Big parts of the game feel unfinished, the final boss is lacking and the plot was an afterthought.
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>>377728573
>its true that my gripes about the game are minor and don't really mean much but there are things to be said.
No, I just don't understand why the diving animation is an issue. I like diving animations.
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>>377728695
I think its a much worse game than Ocarina of Time. It's also the worst game I played this year of the new 2017 releases.
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>>377728287
oh cool so you saw a few streams on twitch
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>>377728580
have you actually played assassin's creed
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>>377728953
Why are Nintendo fans so retarded and autistic? I once had one of you fags claim my copy of BOTW was a friends that I "borrowed" to shitpost with.

You guys are dense stupid fucks.
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>>377729105
>Why are Nintendo fans so retarded and autistic?
You're on /v/. Everyone's retarded and autistic, including you.
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>>377729105
wow calm down dude

maybe dial down the autistic rage if you want a serious discussion???
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>>377726081
not him but I also hate this durability thing. Just because it stops me from having multiple 1 weapon only playthroughs.
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>>377728830
>the plot was an afterthought
l like how these stupid faggots think this is a negative while this is a good thing for an entirely nonlinear open world game
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>>377725395

Shields are shit in general. Only good for deflecting lasers.
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>>377729212
Fortunately, I have a girlfriend and a successful career. Even if I was autistic, I'm clearly of a better variety than you faggots.
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>>377728953
with that logic you could easily just say no one played the game in this thread including yourself. Then its just a matter of if you're a false flagger or a shit poster.
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>>377729319
but my cutscenes.

Sony games are linear cinematic experiences so that proves it's the height of game design
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(You)

Valid for everyone but: >>377728565
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>>377729382
Hahaha, you've sure proven yourself to me.
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>>377727780
that puzzle was piss easy
just turn the whole maze upside down and move up and down
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>>377729382
good for you :3
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>>377726768
>>weapon durability discourages fighting anything

>Only for hoarding autists.

Why would you waste your weapons fighting the same enemies over and over again? In many cases you will end up with worse weapons than you started.
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>>377718216
It's honestly the worst Zelda game so far. Yes even worse than SS.
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>>377729505
FUCK game ruined.
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>>377729408
Sony in general is more experimental than Nintendo and has plenty of variety for games. How is stuff like Soul Sacrifice, Gravity Rush 2, Spiderman, and Siren like that?
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Is worse game than Skyward Sword andTwilight Princess
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>>377728830
Mipha a cute
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My only real problem with the game is that the field minobosses are better than the main dungeon bosses

They should've done the opposite
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>>377718216
It's fun, but feels aimless

It's a good game, but not a good zelda game.

Don't give me the "It's challenging" argument either. My 10 year old beat BoTW alone, fairly quickly and can't beat Ocarina, Twilight Princess or Wind Waker by himself.
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>>377729586
Why would you waste your time playing videogames at all?
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>>377729665
>Sony in general is more experimental than Nintendo and has plenty of variety for games
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>>377728905

Not that guy but the diving animation was annoying a couple of times when trying to jump and glide.
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>>377728565
>I have never played Open World games before Nintendo jumped on the bandwagon.
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>>377729672
I think Skyward Sword was really bad, but at least I felt like it had a beginning and an end, with powerups in between. BOTW was an early access game.
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>>377718216
It's an OK game but not a good Zelda.
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>>377718216
9.5/10 IMO
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>>377727316
>how the monster parts are "shitty", like, did you even play the game?
Monster parts are used for armor upgrades and making elixirs. However, food is almost always a better option for buffs than elixirs because food will also restore hearts, and collecting ingredients is way easier than catching bugs. If you were to just travel from point (a) to point (b) you will invariably end up with way more ingredients than critters, so there reaches a point where monster parts stop being worth collecting, but food almost never does.
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>>377729665
nah
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>>377729760
>It's a good game, but not a good zelda game.

Kill yourself faggot.
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>>377718216
It's my favorite Zelda game in a long time, and definitely the best game that Nintendo has made since Super Mario Galaxy 2.
I'm not sure if it deserves the scores that it received, but it's certainly not as bad as /v/ shitters would make you believe.
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>>377729760
It should also be noted that, while I love the kid, he has pretty much zero skill for gaming.
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Red dead redemption is better nature open world game
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>>377729884
>you will invariably end up with way more ingredients than critters

thats why you sell them, genius.
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>>377729824
The bottom isnt even a Sony game.
Wow, they have bows in games. I can't believe Nintendo copied Sony by using bows in their games.
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>>377729851
That's a good thing because Zelda games were always trash.
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>>377729903
Zelda games should be held to a higher standard. Instead people reviewing do the opposite and give it a high score just based on it's name.
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>>377729319

They made a non-linear open world game with basically no plot.

Then they added a half-assed plot and characters on top of it.
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>>377723859
>everything interesting happened 100 years ago
that pissed me off the most
>no playing hide and seek with zora kids

why?
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>>377729887
Sony has more new IPs per console than Nintendo anon. Looking at it objectively, they take more of an effort towards new IPs.
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Pots aren't even fun to smash anymore.
0/10 game
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>>377729961
I don't understand this at all, Red Dead Redemption was pretty but had fucking nothing to do in the open world

It just ended up being a waypoint simulator with some animal hunting
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>>377729408
>but my cutscenes.

The plot in BotW is mostly told through cutscenes. You just see them out of order.
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>>377730030
Nearly every game they publish these days is in the same genre and has the same lack of artstyle. They even turned GoW into another third person walky talky "game".
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>>377730052
considering botw is the only good 3d zelda i don't understand what you're trying to say
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>>377725727
Yes becouse backtracking (and sometimes gathering an assload of rare material to reforge it) for ANY weapon that brakes after fighting 3 - 10 enemys is tottaly an improvment over just being able to repair it.
Durability would be fine if i could either repair my shit or get some weapon shards to forge new weapons after my weapon breaks.
The way Botw handles it i just use whatever the fuck i happen to find regardless of dmg, moveset or looks.
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>>377729887
Sony's first party wipes the floor with Nintendo's.
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>>377730025
That's not at all the point I was trying to make.
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>>377730061
They also made it with next to no meaningful content.
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>>377729827
I didn't notice that, but I'll take your word for it.
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>>377729778
>Why would you waste your time playing videogames at all?

Because most videogames don't repeat the same enemies and textures over and over again.
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>>377718216
No. It's the biggest disappointment of the year. Nintendo has no fucking clue what to do with this series anymore.
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>>377730227
Lies. Ocarina, Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess are all superior to BoTW. You're blinded by waifus.
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>>377730226
What? How is Gravity Rush 2 the same as GoW?
They also are bringing over Yakuza games, how are those similar?

Are you suggesting Nintendo has good artstyle? They are literally using Knack tier pixar shit on all their new games. Splatoon and ARMs look like shit aesthetically, and have that same molded, primary color look they gave all their main IPs since the Wii U.
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>>377730141
Again, with "New IPs" you're just arguing about story.

Nintendo has a fixed set of IP that it experiments with
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>>377730217
So, BotW but with something to do?
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>>377730141
that's because no one gives a shit about the ips they already have beside uncharted and gran turismo so they're always looking for the next big thing
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>>377725845
>give link a sword that's unbreakable, but is never the best weapon
>it makes you seek out and use weapons but always have a cool sword to fall back on
>it goes through upgrades like in all the other zelda games
>culminates to maxed out master sword
>keep it reasonably powerful, but not the most powerful, except against ganon since he's pure evil in lore

fixing nintendo's mistakes barely takes any though.
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Majora's mask has more content in a world that is 750x smaller
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>>377730218
thats nice

>>377730243
no
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>>377730416
kek seems like you're blinded by nostalgia.
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>>377730574
thought*
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>>377730247
lol

>>377730249
uhhh yes it was...
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>>377729961
>Red dead redemption is better nature open world game

As long as you ignore the shit gameplay and mediocre world design.
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>>377730427
Gravity Rush 2 is a rare example of a non-third person walking sim and Yakuza has nothing to do with Sony directly.
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>>377730510
>with "New IPs" you're just arguing about story.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Do you even know what IP means?

It NEVER dictates game type, just what the product concept is, along with the associated assets it uses.

>>377730569
So you're saying popularity dictates quality?
Sony can't make a variety of games, but when Nintendo makes 1 new IP per generation its god send?

The truth is, you ultimately get more games and variety from a Sony console.
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>>377730416
>TP
>being better than anything

Literally the worst Zelda in existence.
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>>377730652
>nostalgia
>twilight princess
I want you 00's kids to fuck off. My first Zelda game was Link's Awakening.
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>>377721887
>IGN
>polygon
>nintendolife
>kotaku
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>>377730512
You can literally hunt for animals too, faggot.
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>>377729370
Yeah and the Hylian does automatically, reg blocks make it bounce off, parry capable.
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>>377730775
>The truth is, you ultimately get more games and variety from a Sony console.
You really don't. Nobody cares about an IP if the game itself is generic and forgettable.
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>>377730801
And yet it's still a better Zelda game than botw.
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>>377718216
It's an unfinished mess but most zeldfags are fooled by the shiny coat of paint.
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>>377730801
>it's too much like the near consensus GOAT game Ocarina of Time
>this means it's the worst game ever
Really makes you think.
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>>377730775
>It NEVER dictates game type
I never said that, in fact that was literally my point.

Why does "new IP" indicate more experimentation when, as we agree, it has no bearing on what the game actually is?
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>>377730257

I think it has a solid 10-15 hours of good content. Problem is that the game is stretched to 40-50 hours. Similar problem as Dragon Dogma.

The world design kinda compensates for it, but the game does get repetitive after a while. Doesn't help that the divine beasts all feel very similar.
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>>377730416
Oh so you're one of those TP fags. Probably the most deluded Zelda fanbase.
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>>377730416
>Twilight Princess
kek
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>>377730759
Sure it does, they localized it.
Spiderman is a third person walking sim?
Tearaway?
Rachet and Clank?
Freedom Wars?
Oreshika 2?
Everybodys golf?
MLB The Show?
Bloodborne?
Pupetteer?
Folklore?
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>>377730775
>So you're saying popularity dictates quality?
l'm explaining to you why giant corporation A takes more risks than giant corporation B because the former doesn't have as many commercially successful franchises as the latter

why are sony fans so fucking retarded
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>>377730969
Twilight Princess will always be linear, souless garbage. Nintendo pulled a Bioshock Infinite and didn't even deliver in its promise. Seriously fuck Twilight Princess.
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>>377730913
>Yeah and the Hylian does automatically

Doesn't that remove the fun of reflecting lasers?
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>>377729919
>It's my favorite Zelda game in a long time, and definitely the best game that Nintendo has made since Super Mario Galaxy 2.

/Thread
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>>377731179
lol Xbone STILL has the best Insomniac exclusive of this gen. haha
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>>377731062

Even Skyward Sword was better than Twilight Princess. All the TP fags have going for them is muh dungeons but then you realize that the dungeons in Skyward Sword were superior.
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>>377731231

Daily reminder that Bioshock Infinite is the best Bioshock game.
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>>377730939
If something is generic and forgettable than that leaves it to personal taste, not the fact that you are or aren't getting more variety.

>>377731028
See>>377731179

You're a fucking moron.

>>377731213

>that's because no one gives a shit about the ips

But people clearly do, they never NEED to fund these, as you said, they are already popular IPs. They just don't milk them to death like Zelda or Mario.

Why are you fucking using caps and then not capitalizing the next sentence? Are you a fucking moron?
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>there are people who unironically think TP is better than BoTW
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>>377731179
>Spiderman is a third person walking sim?
We haven't seen gameplay of it yet.
You seriously had to list a game from 2007, a baseball series that started in 2006 and R&C which started in 2002.
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>>377731681
because it is
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>>377731681
TP has

>Dungeons
>A story
>Memorable characters
>Actual progression

Botw has none of these
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>>377731852
wrong.
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>>377731681
We're getting to the point where people who had Twilight Princess as their first Zelda game are adults now so you'll be seeing this a lot now
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>>377731935
He's right though.
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>>377731852
Are you actually referring to Twilight Princess? Because none of those apply to that game.
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>>377731802
A recent R&C just came out.
Meanwhile, Nintendo has made 1 notable IP in over 10 years, and its a mediocre, entry level TPS.
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>>377731532
that certainly is a list of IP...

believe it or not, it doesn't interest me too much
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>>377732062
Twilight Princess doesn't have dungeons?
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>>377731852
>>A story
>>Memorable characters
>>Actual progression
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>>377732154
>mediocre, entry level TPS
it's better than any tps on playstation

stay buttblasted sonygro
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>>377722107
Pretty much this.
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>>377732154
Xenoblade is a notable IP.
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>>377732317
It doesn't interest you cause it doesn't have the Nintendo brand slapped on it.

If those games were on Switch/WiiU you'd be dicksucking them to high hell as gaming masterpieces, same as you do for every other IP to wander itself over to Nintendo consoles.

See:
Arms
Splatoon
W101
Bayonetta 2
Pokken
Mario Maker
Pikmin
Animal Crossing
Yoshi Yarnshit
Dong Freeze
Fatal Frame
Xenoblade
etc...
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>>377732656

It's not notable and it's not even a new IP.

Although I don't see why people care so much about it. Breath of the Wild feels like it could have been a new IP easily.
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>>377718403
fpbp

It's fine as an experimental toybox but thats it.
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>>377729594
This desu
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>>377732415
TP has a story
TP has Midna
TP has shit to collect and carry you onto future dungeons, with bosses to defeat. As well as shit to do.

Did you even play it?
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>>377732873
>It's not notable and it's not even a new IP.
Its getting a second sequel and is indeed an IP from the last 10 years.
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>>377733005
>TP has a story

It almost does and then DORF'D

>TP has Midna

You used characters as in plural

>TP has shit to collect and carry you onto future dungeons, with bosses to defeat. As well as shit to do.

BotW is the only Zelda game in recently memory where I feel genuinely stronger at the end of the game than I did at the start. Nothing in TP can kill you.
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>>377733230
funny that you mention stronger cause nothing can kill you in botw, either. Armor and temp hearts destroys the difficulty fast.
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>>377733005
BoTW has a,,,,story?
BoTW has,,,,that fish chick.
BoTW has,,,,psychics based items.

it's obvious BoTW is better because....it's on the switch.
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>>377718216
Depends on how good the "story" dlc will be.
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>>377733327
Armor and temp hearts you need to earn yourself, TP is easy no matter what.
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>>377733327
Ganondorf can't even do a full heart of damage.
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>>377733230
different guy anon

I just called you out on being a shitposting imbecile.
>>
It's one of the most fun games I've played in a long time. There are so many systems that interact with each other that every time I play I find something new I can do. My only real problem with this game is the lack of variety in dungeon designs and the voice acting. The fact that it's portable totally makes up for the graphical downgrade.
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>>377733546
You also need to earn your stuff in TP. Your argument makes no sense. The game is precious easy in Botw and only kids...no even kids wont have a problem with this game. Youd have to be deadpan casual mode.
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>>377732837
look bro it's not our fault your overhyped lovecraftian memegame sold half as many copies as splatoon did on a dead system

sony franchises suck shit, you buy playstation for the 3rd party games, it's always been the case and it'll always be the case
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>>377733647
>>377733647
>You also need to earn your stuff in TP.

TP is probably the game where you earn the least of your shit
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>>377732034
lol no. TP is uninspired shit
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>>377733230
But BotW doesn't even have progression. Only distractions. You can LITERALLY beat the first boss after the tutorial segment. And honestly, that's the only way that fucker will offer any challenge.

BotW is a huge waste of time you can end at any time you grow bored with it.
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>>377733647
You almost never take more than a single heart of damage at max no matter what you do in TP.
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>>377733892
And you cant die in one hit at full hp in botw no matter what.
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>>377733647
Considering TP makes BoTW look like Ikaruga in terms of difficulty, shut the fuck up deluded TP fag.
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>>377733946
Objectively wrong.
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>Breath of the Wild is the first Zelda for Normies and Nu-Males
>That's why they defend this game
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>>377733980
>botw
>difficult

wow didnt know you were DSP tier
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>>377733747
NOT THE SAME GUY YOU FUCKER

Why do you autists always assume the person they're replying to is always the guy they were originally in conversation with? When you say retarded shit on the internet, expect to get called out, you sperglord.
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>>377733327
>Nothing can kill you in BOTW
>You just have to use buffs!

The water temple boss in Twilight Princess literally does not attack you
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>>377734069
Did I even say that? Learn to read nigger.
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>>377734069
Compared to TP it is. BotW has enemies than can oneshot you. TP never does more than a heart.
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>>377734069
>retard doesn't understand comparisons
Not surprising at this point.
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>>377733892
>being unable to dodge
>not upgrading armor
>enemy has one of the best swords in the game

The only way for the game to be difficult is with self-imposed challenges.
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>>377723859
>>false advertisement in the trailers
Like?
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>>377734074
most of these people are from gamefags and other forums where they quote all day. They haven't really succumbed to the fact that we're on an anonymous board so they're regressing to their usual thoughts that if someone is replying to the, it's the same person.
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>>377734120
And Ganon in BotW just sits there and lets you hit the glowing spots to kill him.
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>>377734068
OoT sold 8 mil, retard. It's the most "normie" Zelda ever.
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>>377734153
>>377734191
>>377734212
>cryingnintendobabbies.jpg
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>>377734074
how new are you?
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>>377734340
>feeling the need to reply to people who point out how retarded you are in order to try and save face
Absolutely pathetic.
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>>377734340
Who made TP?
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>>377734326
TP Wii+GC sold more than OoT. TP is technically the most normie Zelda ever.
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>>377734412
You're the one trying to save face by thinking botw is difficult
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>>377734253
The water temple boss

LITERALLY DOES NOT ATTACK YOU

I'm not exaggerating like you are
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>>377732837
>It doesn't interest you cause it doesn't have the Nintendo brand slapped on it

Nice strawman, bro
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>>377730367
False.
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>>377734253
Compared to the Ganondorf you can distract with a fishing pole
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>>377733357
>it's obvious BoTW is better because

it's a better game
>>
Really fucking loved it to be honest. Was simply a great game imo. Weapons breaking is probably its biggest flaw
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>>377718216
Yep I liked it a lot
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>>377734074
>capslocks
wow there no need to chimp out, l'm truly sorry for making fun of your fire emblem level exclusive goty
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>>377734457
You're the one who is still a complete mouth breathing simpleton who doesn't understand comparisons.
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>>377734372
How new are YOU?

I've been here since 2007. We used to have people with a bit more self awareness back in the day.
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>>377734637
botw sucks dude
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>>377734459
https://youtu.be/SnVJ1IfkXSc

Also check that awful fucking music
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I like both TP and BoTW. The only Zeldas I didn't like were the DS ones.
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>>377734705
Spirit Tracks is fun
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>>377734340
>faggot gets exposed
>resorts to false flagging

lynch yourself
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>>377729834
>Nintendo jumped on the bandwagon

How long will people keep ignoring that the very first Zelda game was open world?
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>>377734468
That's not what a strawman is. Stop using terms you do not understand.
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>>377734680
BotW is goat bro
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>>377734680
nah
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>>377734824
>cryingnintendobabbyremoveshishat.jpg
>they cant keep getting away with it!
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>>377723859
>>there are actually nothing to explore, each building is empty, Korok Seeds and shrines everywhere

SO much this, all the rewards are the same.
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>>377727417
>Saying you're managing "three different menus," is disingenuous other reason being that you're unlikely to manage any more than one during a single fight.
The game isn't composed of single fights. You will eventually have to fumble through multiple menus while in combat, doesn't matter what your playstyle is. Even if you prefer the tactic of taking enemy weapons, you will eventually break those weapons and be forced to switch back to a more not as strong one in fear of breaking the good one. I understand what you say and for you, that is what the game is trying to encourage. Of course, you feel good doing it because you feel you get the game, but it's just your opinion. You can make an opinion on why you think it feels good for you. And is just as valid as mine, that the game is a constant "you can do this, but wait don't do it too much".
Having average or below average combat doesn't make the game bad though. Unless the game is combat oriented and Zelda isn't. It gets a pass but not a perfect 10 kind of pass.
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>>377734848
um, no, it quite literally is, sweetie
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>>377734882
>likes tp
>calls other nintendobabbys

how autistic can you get?
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>>377734838
zelda 1 wasnt open world. pc had actual open world games. its been thirty years and no modern console can ever come close to the crpgs open worlds where they had flushed out stories, lore, and tons of shit you can do. exploration actually mattered
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>>377721873
No shit Sherlock. Its almost like random pics of the game environment, doesn't direct reflect the game content.
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>>377734990
>thinking Im the same anon who cares about TP
>cryiningnintendobabythrowshishatintotrash.jpg
>t-that'll show him!
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>>377734882
You're literally mad about people saying TP is shit.
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>>377734705
>I like both TP and BoTW
same

TP was the culmination of the OoT formula and BotW is the blueprint and the new paradigm for the future of the series

both great games for entirely different reasons
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>>377734967
>sweetieposting

People with Reddit and Tumblr cookies should be forbidden from posting.
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>>377735153
>it ain't me starts playing

HAHAHA pathetic.
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>>377735238
not an argument my man
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All the world has is 4 mobs, copypasted shrines and kurok seeds. Exploration stops being exciting after a few hours because you know you're not going to find anything new and exciting.
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>>377735313
You never even had one to begin with anon.
>>
Literally the best zelda game by far, coming from someone who really doesn't care much for 3d zelda.
Things it did well

>Dungeon Design
Dungeons were split up into 5 components that you can do in basically any order, puzzle design was far superior to previous 3d zeldas that boiled down to "look around the room for the hidden key" or "wait until you get the dungeon item and backtrack through the dungeon seeing where it applies". THe physics engine helped a lot in the puzzle design
>Boss fights
They're actual fights instead of puzzles that have to be repeated 3 times, lots of variation in the fights and multiple ways to approach them. Parrying actually has advantages on certain moves and is worth learning over just dodging.
>Movement around the world
unlike other open world games like skyrim or RDR moving around the world is actually engaging beyond just going to the next marker on your map, you feel more compelled to explore rather than just moving to the next marker on your map, you're also giving plentiful options for how to move around the map, fast travel, hang gliding, shield surfing, climbing, horse riding.
>Air Bullet time
>Combat
>Less tutorial
>All core abilities are unlocked from the start
Both this and less tutorials help replay ability a lot.
>Open world bosses
>Money is actually useful
>Story
Have no idea why people say the story was bad, it's unarguably better than most of the zelda games and I think only MM, TP, and WW are competitive with BoW's story. ,
What could be improved:
>ability to upgrade weapons to make them unbreakable endgame
>A few rare weak weapons that are unbreakable or atleast very durable
>More collectibles other than Koroks, memories, and spirit orbs, maybe place a few heart pieces throughout the world for instance.
>Generally more durability for melee weapons
>more enemy variety
>Boss appearance, they were good fights but the aesthetics were awful for all ganon fights in an otherwise aesthetically pleasing game.
>>
It might just be the best game, OP.
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>>377735458
so you didn't play it then?

The map is full of interesting landmarks and the fight mechanics are a joy to play

>>377735504
I'm sorry, but none of those exclusives are enough for me to pick PS4 over Switch. Deal with it.
>>
If you didn't complete the compendium you're not done with the game and you're a faggot
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>>377735975
I just realized I didn't take any pictures of the Ganon beasts.

Am I fucked?
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>>377727232
source
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>>377726976
There is an near almost every stable.
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>>377736116

You can buy the pictures.
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I don't like how Nintendo of all companies fucked up the visuals so badly.
I've started thinking WW was just a happy accident.

>>377735534
>Literally the best zelda game by far, coming from someone who really doesn't care much for 3d zelda.
This is because it's the least 3D Zelda 3D Zelda.
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>>377737765
>Not playing in full rgb range
kek, this is either bait or everyone saying the Wii U version looks the same was lying.
>>
I'm kinda interested in the master sword trial thing that's going to be in the dlc.
Odds are they'll just be real lazy and have every room just be a band of enemies of the same type and color in increasing numbers and rank. That'd be such a waste.
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>>377737690
Oh yeah, I forgot.

But you can't pick specifically which pictures you need, right?
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>>377737765
>I've started thinking WW was just a happy accident.

it's what happens when you give something good to a crowd with the worst taste imaginable. Ever since Zelda has had to compromise with those who appreciated Wind Waker and the retards that couldn't
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>>377733892
You can just run past enemies in BoTW, you don't need to beat any of them except shooting the eyes in otherwise empty divine beasts and beating the Blight bosses.

Twilight Princess dungeons were gauntlets, harder than the divine beasts.

Zelda is not supposed to be like Dark Souls, even in the really old Zelda games it was like a gauntlet with mandatory battles.
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>>377738305

You can specify the category of pictures you want.
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>>377738562
>Twilight Princess dungeons were gauntlets, harder than the divine beasts.
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>>377737765
that's not accurate output from the game
if you don't manually configure the rgb range, capture footage can look more muted than it should be
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>>377737690
Where?
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>>377738437
Not as a Zelda aesthetic, but in general. Cellshading worked wonders in 2002 and still looks great, even if it doesn't fit in Zelda.
Then they ruined it in WWHD.
BotW is a washed out mess with no contrast.
Every 2D Mario since Wii has looked lifeless and plastic.
MKW had everything looking weirdly shiny and MK8 has bloom out the ass.
I guess Splatoon looks good in areas, but aliasing isn't kind to it.

>>377738125
>>377738763
Is there a comparison anywhere? I can't find images.
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>>377734191
>BoTW enemies can one shot you
What exactly is the big deal about this? There is essentially zero punishment for dying since it autosaves so often. If you die in an encounter you'll just be placed back about 10 seconds before you last engaged the monster that killed you, like it never happened It's a total joke and you know it.
>>
>>377718216

it wasn't even a good game when the dust was in the air
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>>377738656
Divine beasts all take about 10 minutes tops with no real enemies to fight, first run through.
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>>377738437
Anytime on /v/ I see two or three people beating off over how great they are because they think Zelda games suck, I can't help but imagine super neckbeards who live at their parents' home, watching underground anime about magic girls, and playing games like DOTA or the anime girl with the blindfold that came out recently on $2200 computers paid for by good boy points and the general aroma of semen and Mountain Dew: Gamer Fuel in the air. Oh, wait. Is that a book on his desk? Hidden beneath that fedora? It is, but its only "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.
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>>377730874
>4chan
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>>377738803

The loli-grandma's assistant.
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>>377738961
here's a video with some good side-by-side footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIiijEKOFtU
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>>377739716
It's only a few couple of areas so it's hard to really tell but that certainly does look better and more vibrant. I found that there was a complete lack of darks and if his description is true that everything from 0-16 and 235-255 registers as pitch black and pure white, it wouldn't fix that issue.
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>>377718216
I loved it. I hate how this fucking website goes "REEE IT GOT A 10 OUTTA 10 TIME TO HATE"

You guys are the equivalent of faggot emos trying to be "Special" and "Unique" trying to go against the grain.

Sure it has its flaws.

The dungeons were shit.
Music wasn't there.
No musical instrument.
All weapons from the start.

But this game goes back to it's roots.

If you really wanted to, you could go to the final boss area right from the start..
What other fucking game lets you do that?

The world is massive and some areas may be empty, but it feels alive.

Sure it's just koroks and shrines. But some people actually like that.

That's like saying Majora's Mask's world was empty. Termina field had nothing but enemies and a few skulltalas here and there. But it felt ALIVE.

But no, anybody who has this opinion has no taste and is a faggot.

I fucking hate this website. I understand if some people don't like the game but Jesus H Christ some of you are lonely retards tipping your fedoras mumbling "what a faggot" to themselves when you haven't even played the game.

Stop hopping on the bandwagon full of hate for this game just because it's got great reviews.
There's a reason this game is getting them, and it isn't just bribes. A ton of people genuinely love the game, you fuckers just need swallow up your fucking delusion of what you think is pride and deal with it.
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>>377718216
yeah

top 3 Zelda imo
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>>377718216
duh
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>>377727789
Maybe if you don't like Zelda games to begin with.
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>>377718216
its great, best I've played in many years.
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>>377740883
So yeah I liked the game.

List goes

OOT
MM
BOTW
LTTP
TW
WW

Now Skyward Sword... Skyward Sword was fucking awful..
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Best game I've played in years.

Fucking amazing. I loved it.
Just waiting for the DLC.
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>>377721475
You didn't even watch his video at all, did you? Either that or you didn't listen.
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>>377726341
Can you not swim upstream?
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>>377723462
I thought it wasn't a Zelda game either when I first played before that guy even uploaded his video. You fanboys are fucking delusional as hell.
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>>377740845
That's honestly the best comparison video out there, so I got nothing else to show.
Though Nintendo probably spends too much time worrying about the artstyle for these game anyway ever since Wind Waker. I think I recall them saying they didn't want cell shading for the environments because they thought that players wouldn't expect complex physics out of those environments if they used "unrealistic" shading.
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>>377718216
Not the most traditional zelda game. It might not be THE best zelda game. But fuck man, it's a fucking fantastic video game.
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>>377741338

> waiting to choke on cock

You're revolting
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>>377741392
>y-you didn't watch it!

No, we all watched the video, it's crap anyway. Anderson knows very little about video game development and design, he's a self-published fantasy author after all. He just picks apart a few game mechanics without any regard for how they fit into the overall gameplay or what practical considerations went into them.
He's also such a thin skinned retard that not even a website specifically designed for dicksucking is enough for him.
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>>377740883
>Music wasn't there.
l'll never understand that

yeah there's no overworld theme blasting nonstop during the dozens of hours you spend here, but it doesn't mean it doesn't have good memorable music

hyrule castle, molduga battle, kass theme, vah ruta battle, inside vah ruta, sheikah tower, tarrey town, the main theme, all good tunes
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>>377718216
I played all the way up to Karkaiko village, got a few shrines some armor and shit and I immeditly lost interest in the game when I realized this was all the game was going to be. I was really disappointed. I haven't been this disappointed in a Zelda game since Wind Waker. And of course all the fans are slurping this game's cock, calling it the best Zelda game ever and I just don't fucking see it all.
How is a mediocre open world game that doesn't even play like a traditional Zelda game get considered the best in the series? I feel like I've taken crazy pills.
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>>377742335
Yes, I get it. Everyone who criticizes your favorite game is a retard, even when they say they liked the damn game. Fuck off.
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>>377741164
The 2D ones are fine. It never really worked well in 3D.
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I enjoyed it a lot. I've never really cared for Zelda, except for Links Awakening DX. I still pick up and play while I'm high, but I don't think its the groundbreaking game everybody is making it out to be. Way overrated by the Nintenbros. Thought it was wayyyy better then Far cry future dinosaur though.
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>>377742006

>you're revolting

WWJD
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>>377742393
>I feel like I've taken crazy pills.
no you're just retarded, it's ok
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>>377742545
Retarded arguments are retarded regardless of what game we're talking about. Now go take care of your kid Joseph, maybe then you won't have to record your next video with it in your lap.
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2Dfag here. BotW is the only 3D Zelda game besides MM that's actually worth a shit.
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>>377718216
anyone who thinks this is a bad game is making bait. this game is exactly what a game should be. insanely well designed.
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>>377742393
ah so you are retarded ok, thanks for your input.
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>>377742545
>cries about not being able to beat the first lynel he encounters because muh weapons are breaking game doesn't reward skills!n
>jimmyqballs posts video of him killing a silver lynel with 3 hearts and 6 tree branches
anderson's video is a better critique than the shit spouted by sterling for ex but some of the stuff he said is still very questionable
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>>377718403

Why are sonyCucks so salty about the goty?
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Does armor break like weapons do too?
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>>377742658
I disagree completely since Ocarina of Time took the perfect structure of Link to the Past and expertly translated it to 3D.
I don't get some 2D fans. They act like making traditionally 2D games into 3D is some kind of horrible thing that never works. I see the same shit when people talk about Metroid Prime, which is another terrific game.
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>>377742880
are you me?
BotW is literally the very first 3D Zelda I finish, I played MM, OoT, WW, TP and could never finish any of those, except for BoTW

loved and finished the 2D Zeldas on the Nes,snes,gb
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Permadeath game mode when
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>>377742359

The music is good, I just don't think it's as memorable as original Zelda tunes. Can you hum Hyrule field music from OOT to yourself rn? I can! But Kakariko's Theme constantly slips from my mind.

Kass's theme is literally a memorable zelda tune.

Sheikiah has it's own music?

I can't remember Tarrey Town, hell even the Molduga fight?

I'm sure i nodded my head along to them while they were playing, but they didn't stick.

SS Gerudo theme was great.

TP's Malo Mart sometimes gets stuck in my head unfortunately..

OOT's Song of Storms is so memorable..

I just sadly don't feel that with this Zelda. Still I don't love it any less because of that.
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>>377743084
Movement felt too restrictive. It was fine when the entire game was on a 2D plane, but 3D Zelda just feels better when you have free movement and can just go anywhere.
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I enjoyed it alot for one play through but that is it. It has almost 0 replayablity.
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>>377743042
They like to think of themselves as serious gamers. Serious gamers wouldn't pass on one of the best games ever made just because it's on a different console, therefore it must be overrated open world garbage.
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>>377742335
>He's also such a thin skinned retard that not even a website specifically designed for dicksucking is enough for him.

This. Anderson only considers criticism of his videos "constructive" if it's not actually criticism at all. Dude is completely insufferable and doesn't really understand what he's critiquing the vast majority of the time.
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>>377723859
it still blows my mind that they thought it'd be ok to release a Zelda game with no music
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>>377743247
Edit: Kakariko's theme from BOTW Constantly slips my mind. The one from OOT is very memorable. Cuccos clucking as soon as you walk up those steps..

I don't feel that with BOTW's Kakariko Village
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>>377743247
Beethoven's final symphony isn't catchy either, but it's still light years ahead of the latest Katy Perry song. Memorability is just a facet of music, not a synonym for quality.
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>>377743073
No. Shields break though.
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>>377743247
>>377743578
Whether you want to admit it or not, a lot of that has to do with the fact that BotW hasn't been out for long. I guarantee that a few of these tunes will become more nostalgic with time.
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>>377743247
actually yeah all the songs l mentioned l can hum, they're stuck in my head

you should check the sheikah tower theme on youtube or something, l think it's fantastic
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>>377743315
It has more replayability than most Zelda games.
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>>377743618

Memorability still accounts for something.
Sure it's not a synonym for quality. But if we're talking quality alone, I think the quality of this soundtrack compared to previous zelda games is very low.
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Amazing game. Sad that it will be shitpostes until the next game in the series releases.
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I can barely even remember the botw battle theme and I was playing 30 minutes ago
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>>377743874
This may be true. I genuinely hope it is! I love the Zelda franchise and would love to see this game's music grow on me even more over time.
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>>377744259
The generic battle themes in Zelda games we're never too memorable.
I mean, OoT's battle theme was just some snare drum tapping and a trumpet playing like 5 notes.
BotW's battle theme is real cool though
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>>377744002
Just listened to it. It's very good. But I don't think it stands out as much as the rest of the open world soundtrack. It's very similar to the ambient open world piano you hear when riding through hyrule at night.

I think that's why it's hard for me to remember distinct tunes from this game.

Because most of the songs are very similar and sort of "blend" together.
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It was okay, I prefer the old style of 3d zelda, they had actual dungeons.
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>>377743084
To be fair though, there hasn't been a 3D Metroid that successfully captures the feel of 2D Metroid.
The prime games were excellent, no doubt, but were completely different kind of games. The 2D games were these fast paced pure action games where all the bosses were defeated with the age old strategy of shoot him, and don't get hit.
The Prime games were much more slower paced, added a lot of puzzle solving elements and had a lot of bosses that followed the Zelda formula of using the item you got in the dungeon to weaken him and then blast him.
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>>377718216

It's a one time "semi" wonder.

It needed atleast 2 major dungeons per region.
Increased enemy variety
Fleshed out melee combat
Increased weapon durability
High damage weapons only available via weapon vendors, shrines, or from high tier enemies
>>
It's an amazing game and I loved it
/v/ either has shit taste or hasn't played it.
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>>377742393
Nuts ain't it?
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>>377734459
One shitty boss in the middle of the game is a wee bit different to the final boss of the game.
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>>377742393
>that doesn't even play like a traditional Zelda game

You haven't played a Zelda released before OoT, have you?
>>
Everyone is right, if we could combine the best part about dungeons in TP and SS with sidequests as good as MM and BotW exploration we could have a 12/10 Zelda game.
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>>377734901
The journey is the reward.
>>377734946
Weapons breaking isn't that big of a deal. Because when you do the weapons you pick up are enough to kill the enemies in the area.
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>>377735458
exactly this
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>>377729824
>they shoot bows from the same angle!!!
You ever play an fps where the gun is always in the bottom right corner?
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>>377747205
I agree however. How would you keep player freedom with the old style dungeons?
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>>377720627
Lel
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>>377730939
What he said is true though.

>PS4
>can play AAA multiplats
>gets tonnes of exclusives
>wide selection of genres; RPG, JRPG, ARPG, sports, racing, fighting, shooter, competitive MP, indieshit, action adventure, etc.

>Switch/WiiU
>no AAA multiplat
>Mario rehashes, Mario spinoff rehashes, Zelda rehashes, Zelda HD rehashes, Nintenkiddy rehashes, wagglin' shit, babbyshit, shovelwares, 5-year-old indieshit, multiplats ported from PS3/X360, etc.

I don't play Nintenbro like Mario and Zelda so what could I play on a Ninty console? LITERALLY NOTHING!
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>>377747205
But those each of those things probably took up like 80% of the dev time for each of those games. It's kinda like asking to make 2 and half games.
Never mind how shy Nintendo is on making Zelda sequels that iterate on previous games instead of each game basically being a soft reboot.
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>>377749116
Well good for you
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>>377749116
>1495283087146m
>m
stupid dumb mobileposting scum
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>that pathetic samefag
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>>377749550
>>377749758
>I-I dun have a-any argument b-but I guess m-mebbe I s-should just dismiss him. H-heh! *sobs*
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>>377745120
>high damage weapons only available
Uhh it's exactly what it's like?
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>>377718216
i haven't played it and i don't plan on playing it

that being said i think it's fucking gay and awful
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>>377750220
>argument
Wait you had an argument?
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>>377718216
>>
It's a fantastic game because of how much it lets you maintain control and decide what to do. After all, imagination and interactivity are exactly what made video games fun in the first place.

However I think they made a couple missteps in how they deviated from the usual Zelda formula that's pervaded over the years. Specifically, weapons used to have more of a mechanical utility rather than a stick with numbers. While different elemental types create for a degree of advantage/disadvantage based play, too much of the combat revolves around just doing raw damage. And there's no quirks or anything to discover about that type of gameplay, really. Armor was a bit better in this regard, because of the utility provided by set bonuses, but even then, I still take a philosophical issue with seeing all these numbers in muh Zelda.

Beyond that, I'd say its main flaw is in enemy variety. Christ, just give me some Poes and I'll be happy.
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>>377722283
It's completely different from Zelda 1 moron

In Zelda 1 every screen felt like a small level, completely different from empty fields the game
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>>377725170
Reminder that combat has never been very difficult in zelda games, it's nintendo after all. Now they need to add more to the world next time, mostly more enemies.
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>>377750918
>empty
No more empty than the rooms
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>>377741198
>OOT higher than MM

shit list
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>>377718216
It'll be good once it's brought to PC in the best state possible since that will be the definitive version of the game. It's held back by the garbage that is the Switch and Wii U.
>>
I didn't know anything about it other than it was open world and pirated it on launch expecting shit. I don't even really like Zelda that much.

I ended up really liking it. If you've got the time, it's worth picking up a used Wii U for (obviously resell after you're done).
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>>377751545
>Pcbro port begging
Just emulate. Oh wait, your toaster is too weak to run it?
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>>377752137
I was talking about emulation dumbass.
>>
My wife's son's dad actually works at Zelda. He showed me this list when he was crashing at our place last month:

Best to Worst 3D Zelda Games:
>Breath of the Wild
>Wind Waker
>Majora's Mask
>Ocarina of Time
>Skyward Sword
>Twilight Princess

He also gave me this list:

Best to Worst 2D Zelda Games:
>Links Awakening
>Oracle of Ages
>Link to the Past
>Minish Cap
>Oracle of Seasons
>Zelda I
>Zelda II
>Four Sword

I pushed him a bit more for this:

Best to Worst Odd Zelda Games:
> A Link Between Worlds
>Hyrule Warriors
> Spirit Tracks
>Link's Crossbow Training
> Four Swords Adventures
> Tingle's Rosy Rupee land
> Phantom Hourglass
> Tri-Force Heroes
>>
I played breath of the wild and nier automata back to back and it kinds of made me reflect on why I play game.

BotW is certainly more accomplished as a game, even if it has its shares of problems, and Automata is for better or worse a Yokoo game and as expected pretty flawed

But if I had to choose which one was the more memorable, cohesive experience I would choose Automata for sure.

BotW feels like a sum of good ideas in a package that isn't tied together, there is no real cohesion or synergy between the various parts of the gameplay in general, the shrines are a good example.

I think as an experiment and "base" for the future it's interesting but I really doubt it will be remembered that fondly in a few years.
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>>377749116
I always chuckle that I still see this image posted here. Its funny to me that this is the best effort at trying to display games that would make another fanboy jealous, and all those games are weebshit, or just shit
>>
great game. have you ever seen a company step so far out of it's comfort zone and still come up with a nearly perfect game?
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>>377753107
>games are weebshit
Just like Breath of the Wild then
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>>377723693
we still don't have a release date do we? just SUMMER

fuuuuuuuck
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>>377753314

Sure thing kiddo
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>>377752925
>cohesion and synergy
>in the middle of the combat SUDDENLY HACKING
>SUDDENLY 2D!
>WAIT, SORRY NOW ITS EXPOSITION AND 'INTERACTION' TIME!
What. Those are far more disruptive than shrines
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>>377753664
>>in the middle of the combat SUDDENLY HACKING
>>SUDDENLY 2D!
>>WAIT, SORRY NOW ITS EXPOSITION AND 'INTERACTION' TIME!
>What. Those are far more disruptive than shrines
All these things flowed well in the greater experience that was Automata, sorry if you are to blind and stupid to realize it
>>
>>377730367
>Because most videogames don't repeat the same enemies and textures over and over again.
Name ONE (1) game.
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>>377753910
distorted travesty 3
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>>377718216
>no dlc that lets you play as urbosa
it's fucking garbage
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>>377753815
>yo-you're just dumb!
As expected of a tarofag. Such double standards can only be possible with his dick up your ass
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>>377754473
dude, urbosa is a girl character
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>>377754651
so? link is also a girl (male)
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I have some intense nostalgia for Twilight Princess. Does this compare?
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>>377754801
thats gay man
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>>377754880
Well the official ranking of 3D Zeldas goes MM > OoT > BotW > SS > TP > WW, so yeah if you liked TP you should love BotW.
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>SACRIFICE YOUR BLOOD TO WIELD THE MASTER SWORD

Is nobody going to bring up how "the forces of good" are straight up demons now?
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>>377753107
>buying an overpriced underpowered console
>for these
I would love to dissect a Nintentard's brain and see how it actually works.
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>>377755619
>I would love to dissect a Nintentard's brain and see how it actually works.
Hint: it doesn't
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