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15 hours in, holy shit, Japanese games are so bad and outdated

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15 hours in, holy shit, Japanese games are so bad and outdated

The graphics are awful, the story is typical anime bullshit and the gameplay is OK at best. Le open world meme with dumb side quests, upgrading is a joke, It's so underdeveloped that it's a waste of time. People and critics call this a masterpiece? I have no idea wtf is going on with the gaming industry. Horizon Zero Dawn blows this game out of the water in every aspect.

/v/, your taste is awful
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It's ok to accept you're bad, anon
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>>377714583
Here's your git gud
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>>377714583
git gud
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>>377714583
Here's the attention you so desperately needed.
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>>377714997
>>377715201
>>377715226
>you think the game is bad that means you're bad at playing it

ayyy lmao, this game is easy as fuck after you install the mods that regenerate your health

>BUT ANON YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO PLAY THIS AT HARD DIFFICULTY
that's not a valid argument you fuckwit
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>>377714583
i was with you until horizon zero dawn.
that really made the bait obvious.
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>>377715949
>he doesn't like our beloved weeb game so it must be bait

hmmmm
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>>377714583
It gets good after you finish your second playthrough
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>>377714583
here's your (You)
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>>377716417
>it gets good after X hours
when will this meme die? 15h should be more than enough
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>>377716020
>Le open world meme with dumb side quests
>praises horizon zero dawn in the same paragraph
really makes me think
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>>377714583
(You)
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>>377714583
>Reddit spacing
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>>377716417
Story gets more interesting. Gameplay gets worse.
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>>377717918

>he doesn't actually know what reddit spacing is

It's this, not basic formatting
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>>377717918
What the fuck is Reddit spacing?
I know that it's typing/spacing like this

Reddit spacing

But to say that; it also means you can't fucking type anymore because Reddit also types. How about breathing? Reddit also breathes so maybe you should stop doing that too to avoid being reddit.
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>15 hours in


You have Zero rights to talk about the story at this points, I the gameplay isn't amazing no
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>>377719550
It's just a retarded meme people came up with because they don't know how to actually break up their sentences into an easily readable format. Like you said, anything can be called reddit, the food you're eating was probably handled by a redditor. Holy fuck we should just all kill ourselves.
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>>377714583
If you give up before Route C, you will never get to meet best girl.
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>>377714997
>you're bad, anon

sure spamming L2 is difficult.
Why even bring le "git gud" meme in a piss easy game?
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>>377714583
>15 hours in
>story is shit

You probably didnt even finish the A route you faggot.
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Huge original Nier fan here. Took my time and soaked in Automata. Loved it. Just got Ending D. Hold me.

Still not 100% finished yet, mostly in terms of weapons.
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>>377720743
>it gets better the third time you replay it anon, I swear!
>>377715315
>>377716521
>>377717412
here's a (You) in return donkeys
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>>377714583
>people are actually falling for this
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>>377714583
Nier is shit, and Horizon is definitely the better game, but don't blame it on the fact that it's japanese you dumbfuck. It's just a bad game. Most of the time, the Japanese games are the good ones.
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>>377721060
You got E too right?

>>377721158
I'll admit B is filler but C is entirely new content.
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Automata is overhyped garbage.
If you think it's better than that you have to justify why you enjoy playing the same 5 or so hacking minigames for 5+ hours and why the Pascal Vs Engels fight is good.
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>>377722086
I always wonder how much shit taste must prevail for anyo e to think the Pascal vs. Engels fight was so good. Almost no one ever mentions the entire Tower ascent including the Ko-Shi and Ro-Shi fight.
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>>377714583
So stop playing it, fag. You don't have to like everything.
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>>377721523
/ndg/ is fucking dead man. Shippers and fanfic faggots are all that's left.
I'll post in any Nier thread I can these days. Even bait threads have better discussion than that shithole.
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You are right, this game only sell because of fanservice.

It´s just a game for virgin losers. Nobody will remember the game in some months.
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>Hates the game
>Still wastes 15 hours own it

I don't know if you're autistic or retarded, so I'm going to assume you're both
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I just pirated this game. Thanks baldman. It's preddy gud
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>>377722574
>my face they actually write fanfictions and post about it
/vg/ was a horrendous mistake and they start leaking into /v/ too.
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>>377722646
It'll be worse than that.
People will remember the couple hours of decent battles and music and forget the 30+ hours of padded shit and praise it.
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>>377714583
>it's a waste of time
Well, at least you got one thing right. The story itself could easily be summarized before chapter select became a feature. Since you are mainly covering old ground in 9S's playthrough.
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>>377722021
I dressed up my A2 just like that as well
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>>377723323
9S was a mistake
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>>377714583
>Completely abhorrent OST
>Port is almost unplayable
>Story is almost nonexistent
>Gameplay is mediocre at best

Why does /v/ love this game? It's garbage
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>>377722876
Taro pandered to shipfags with all the side material so this is what we get.

>>377723884
Excellent taste. She is cute with long black hair too but I slightly prefer the glasses + short hair combo. I switch it up every now and then.
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>>377724289
>Completely abhorrent OST
You shut your whore mouth
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>it's another contrarian bait episode
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>>377724323
>Taro pandered to shipfags with all the side material so this is what we get.
There's no reason to go full retard like they do over at /vg/. I enjoy the side-stories too but you don't see me write fucking fanfiction and post it on 4chan of all places.
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>>377724596
It's just the horizon shill.
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>>377714583
Why the fuck do you remake this same thread every fucking day? I mean why do you want to make people hate this game with these blatantly exeggerated complaints?

It's a niché game, it doesn't threaten your precious western AAA titles with their 10 times higher budget and marketing.

I've never seen a single game trigger such a minority of people this fucking much.
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>>377724289
>Completely abhorrent OST
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>>377724970
I think that's just how people start game discussion threads nowadays.
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>>377724970
People are still bitching about Witcher 3 two years after its release
Maybe Nier will go on for that long, it's already been 3 months
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>>377714583
Its sane story as with shitty overrated botw all over again.
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>>377724289
Out of those 4, only 1 is true.
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>>377722021

Ah, I meant E
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>>377721060
I got everything except for ending Y.
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>>377719550
>A website breathes
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>>377725273
Witcher 3 was a fucking popular game tho, it's obvious that some people will think it doesn't deserve it's fame and try to somewhat take down it's reputation to compensate for that. NierA on the other hand is an underrated game, not critically but by how unpopular it actually is. I've never seen a game that actually needs support get such agressive assaulting instead.
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>>377726278
Because its good and /v/ can't stand the idea of that
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It's honestly shit. 2B's ass is its saving grace, but then you're fucking stuck playing with 9S. Yeah thanks no thanks.
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>>377726903
I'm convinced 9S and a lackluster Route B is the source of 90% of the NieR hate
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I dunno, I found 9S is really endearing. Even though my favorite character throughout the game remains 6O.
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>ywn play as A2 in a 2B outfit
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>>377728059
Well yeah, that's exactly right. I really enjoyed Automata, it was a good experience of a game, but the whole 9S thing was really a sour note.

Not only is route B the same as route A, so you're just replaying the exact same thing all over again, but now you're doing it as 9S who is not as fun as 2B, his combat is significantly worse, and the whole hacking minigame is really annoying. It's just a bad experience all around.

Then you get to route C and it's finally a new experience, and holy shit you finally get to play as A2, are we going to learn about her and her motives? Why the fuck did she randomly kill the forest king? Lol nope turns out you only get to play as A2 for like 30% of route C and the other 70% is once again more 9S. What makes it even worse is the 9S sections of route C is the worst part of the entire game. Maybe i'm the only one who thinks that but to me, playing as 9S and doing those 3 metal mini towers was the worst thing in the whole game, just a fucking nightmare. Each tower is long and tedious, no fucking save points at all so the game crashes? START ALL OVER. We put some new enemies in their that you haven't fought before and they can just randomly one shot you even on normal difficulty, lmao START OVER! The second tower being composed of 6 fucking long and annoying hacking mini games is just an extra kick in the balls. What a fucking horrible experience.

Game is good overall, 2B and A2 stuff is fun, music is beautiful that compliments a lot of intense moments, 9S is okay as a character, his conversation when battling A2 was the best part about him, but the whole playing as 9S was gay and awful.
>why do i long for humans like this? Why do i desire the touch of something that no longer exists?
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>>377714583
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>>377722646
>nobody will remember it in a month
>says increasingly nervous man for the 7th time in the 3 months since release
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>>377714583
Agree.. Also this game REEKS of being made specifically for sad neckbeards. I think I'm going to delete nier from my ssd just so I can wipe the shame of being tied to this sorry game, and i pirated it btw

Can you imagine your girlfriend (You DO have one... right?) coming in and watching you play this waifu trash? The shame would be unbearable, and I wouldn't be able to explain it away. This shit is for losers.
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>>377730713
Playing as 9S was a mistake
Atleast his autistic screetching at A2 was hilarious as fuck
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Who keeps making these threads
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>>377714583

The games better than one might figure but it's pretty evident that it's a "for the memes" sort of game that has a really specific audience in mind to claim it's genius. The press felt more intrigued by it if anything whereas it's the hardcore weeb crowd that seems to be going on about the whole masterpiece thing. The writing is really uneven too containing some pretty good bits, but also a lot of as Taro Yoko himself called it "poop" mainly to do with how cheesy, cliche ridden and just kind of bad the dialogue can get at times, particularly for the machine faction. There's times when it hits Drakengard 3 levels of bad "edgy" dialogue but other times where I almost take it seriously as a post apocalyptic tale that's trying to get you to think a little about mankind's self-destructive tendencies and how we're probably destined to fuck ourselves over.
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Nier is a really good way to spot all the plebs of /v/
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>>377733075
>Can you imagine your girlfriend (You DO have one... right?) coming in and watching you play this waifu trash? The shame would be unbearable, and I wouldn't be able to explain it away. This shit is for losers.

My girlfriend actually bought this game and we played it by taking turns whenever one of us died. Was a pretty enjoyable experience overall. Sounds like you couldnt look past the sexy character designs and judged the game based on that rather than its content.
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>>377730713
I agree with everything said here but 9S combat grew on me over time. Wire helps 9S's poor mobility but I still enjoy 2B/A2 more because their moveset is quicker and more fluid.
The lack of much A2 content is absolutely criminal.
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>>377733075
> girlfriend
Where do you think you are?
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You have been so jaded by /v/ that you don't even know what good, fun gameplay is any more.
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>>377714583
>the story is typical anime bullshit
good meme, retard.
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>>377715606
>play game on easy
wow wtf why isnt this difficult?
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>>377733075

Cause it more or less is made exclusively for that crowd and you don't have to read between the line too much on the whole "I make weird games for weird people" to realize who Yoko is talking about. You just have to look at how much fanart it got and the style of writing and characterization it has to realize the hardcore otaku/weeb crowd loves it or rather Yoshida's character design for it and by extension somewhat the game itself. Platinum kind of made it a little more accessible to people outside that crowd, but I get the sense those people just kind of played it, figured it was weird and kind of a neat distraction and moved on or went back to other games while the weebs/otaku crowds that dominate places like /v/ will hail it as the only good game to come out in the past 5 years. It's incredibly telling and people's sole defense whenever people criticize it is to scream at them and spam memes so you can tell how much it really means to people or what they took away from it in the actual level of effort they're willing to put into defending it against criticism.
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>>377723323

The story is definitely padded out to shit with the first couple of playthroughs and probably could have been consolidated a lot more like they did with the 3rd route. I really just kind of wish they'd made Route A and B just one playthrough where your switching character perspectives as necessary for that narrative purpose and save a shit ton of time. At least you only have to do the sidequests once really which is good because the writing in them is noticeably weaker than that for the main scenario on average.
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>>377714583
but theres a thicck robot girl with a butt i fap to her kek
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>>377719836

Basically this. Anytime /v/ is mad about or just wants to shitpost something or is too lazy to come up with a reason to shit on someone or something they just call that thing "reddit".
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>>377716707

I remember having a friend trying to justify FFXIII's tunnels to me this way.

>You didn't get to the Pulse part like 30-40 hours into the game so you can't really talk about it.

Well fuck me then.

>>377715606

Since I got the Deadly Heal +3, Melee Defense +6 and auto-regen and auto-item+3 chips among others any element of challenge in the game kind of flew out the window. As long as you have enough health to not get 1 shotted and especially if there's cannon fodder around to get the +30% heatlh refills per kill all element of challenge basically flies out the window.
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>>377714583
Holy shit I thought this was bait but you're actually just awful at games. Go start a jewtube channel before you turn 20
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>>377734296

It's pretty much textbook this at least for the first playthrough though. Adam and Eve are particularly painful as characters. They really do just feel like "Fuck we want to try to get some fujoshi to play this too so lets gay it up with some homoerotic antagonist bosses" cause they essentially could have been or looked like anything as long as it still looked like a human or android and nothing would have changed much about their role in the story. They also have the worst dialogue of any major character IMO by a long shot.
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>>377733075
My girlfriend actually has watched me play it. She saw 2B's outfit and just gave a joking response of "i wonder why you like this game", then she saw naked sephiroth and i gave her a joking response. You probably haven't had a girlfriend yourself which is why you're making a retard post like that, but if you have a decent relationship you have playful banter like that.

She also loved the robots and thought they were cute.
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>>377714583
Mate if you read /v/ it's clear they only like this game because they jack off to the characters and thus vehemently defend the game. Just fucking ignore the spam
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>>377725889
>a website types

He's clearly using Reddit to refer to its userbase you silly little thing.
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>>377735083
>awful at games
I'm better than you at anything you underage faggot
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>>377735575

That's the same reason /v/ claims to love most Japanese games but yeah more or less. Despite what they might claim when the biggest defenses of the game is Taro Yoko Is Such A Weird Dude memes and Dat Ass it's kind of a telegraph. Funny thing is for me after about 5 hours of hacking and slashing robots and then playing as 9S I barely even notice it as a thing anymore. I mean every single Japanese game has a hot chick to try to sell it and now you have Nintendo practically undercutting 2B with Twintelle where it already looks like a similar sort of thing is starting to happen with that games attention level on social media. It's like "Oh yeah you wanna play that game over at Square Enix, well have Tea Sipping Legs McGee with an even more defined ass!" and then Yoshida is clearly just doing his thing with Stormblood and Yotsuyu now.

If anything all of this just starts a new trend of ass focus in Japanese game character design which isn't necessarily a bad thing or a sudden trajectory change from the standard marketing tactics of this era.
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>>377714583
>making a troll thread to incite actual discussion
I respect what you're doing, keep doing god's work.
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>>377735083

If people are somehow awful at this game I don't know what to say really as it's piss easy especially by Platinum Game standards. Then again I doubt the average IQ of the players that apparently struggled mightily with the first boss and lack of saves until after it and what the obvious solution was.
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It's nice to not be jaded and enjoy things.
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>>377736305
> greatest defens is Yoko Taro
Thats bullshit and you know it. The biggest defense people always bring up is Route C
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>>377735575
Mate if you touched the game you'd understand that that's a crock of shit, you don't even play as 2B for most of it, and most of the hype around it comes from the crazy shit that goes down in route C.

I've no doubt that 2B's ass drew a lot of people in but it's not what's kept threads going so consistently even after launch.
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>most of the thread is actually calling out OP on his faggotry
Is /v/, dare I say, getting better?
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>>377714583
This is the worst bait ever
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I got this game for my birthday from someone.

I had them to exchange to for Yakuza 0
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>>377736813

Fair enough. I mean it is a better story arc than anything else in the game by far but IMO that's more relative than anything. It's the games "good" and more thematically complete story arc which compared to it's first couple and particularly the first one which just sort of ends up looking like a masterpiece in comparison, particularly to impressionable weebs with extremely low standards for storytelling and dialogue in video games. Route A really just seems to be there to introduce players to concepts and shit and basically just leave it at that ala the at this point classic overly long Square Enix game introductory/tutorial phase.
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>>377738020

No it just applies to this game which is about the only one /v/ will kind of try to defend and not shit on all the time because of memes and shit. Even this thread feels like a limp-wristed ass attempt at a defense of the game if you can really call it one compared to a month ago where you literally could not say anything critical about the game cause it was still in it's honey moon phase and weebs were losing their fucking minds over it. Then Persona came along and soon enough other shit is starting to happen in gaming again too.

There are also plenty of people in this thread that are criticizing the game and laughing at some of the shit people come up with to try to defend the game as some sort of masterpiece as opposed to the big otaku game of the season. I literally don't think I've heard one non-weeb or E-Journalist clearly looking to score hipster points more than anything by praising the weird niche Japanese game people are talking about a little more than expected actually try to claim the game is a masterpiece. It's literally ALWAYS a hard core weeb with hardcore weeb taste in general or some blogger vastly overreaching with an article while prefacing it with something like how they were a huge Nier:Replicant fanboy or how much they love their waifus.
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>>377724289
You are the result of when shit taste got tired of just being shit taste and has decided to manifest itself as a human being
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>>377722646
All games are for virgin losers.
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>>377738020
no because they are replying. Exactly what OP wanted
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>>377736798
I too enjoy things
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Someone talk me into reading the stage plays and concert scripts when I didn't give a shit about the characters in the game
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>>377740510
It will make you give a shit about the characters in the game.
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>>377740697
Why is that type of writing acceptable?
Or is this just tarofags being their usual selves and praising shitty design?
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>tarofags will defend this
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>>377724970
>It's a niché game
You're not cool for liking this game
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>>377740510
It gives A2 the context she needs to understand her character
Also A4 a best
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>>377714583
I have been playing for about 5 hours and the only thing I'm disliking is the open world so far. I was expecting a game more like Bayonetta or W101 in that regard, I feel that I take a shit ton of time just getting from one place to another.
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>>377741372
You get fast travel pretty early.
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>>377741372
You can buy satchets from the resistance camp merchant to ride mooses and pigs Then about halfway through Route A you unlock fast travel
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