What went right?

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>>377708189
I think when the plans for the original concept of the game fell through and they gave it too a smaller team to try and salvage it the executives wrote it off in their minds. Which thankfully meant less meddling and gave the devs room to somehow make a good game within that shitty company.

>>377708189
Why would anyone play this ubishit game when Overwatch and CS:GO exist. Both are better than this overhyped piece of shit.

>>377709430
Overwatch is shit, cs:go is a very different game.
>>377708829
You don't have to be in denial, Ubisoft has a number of good games.

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>>377709430
so how badly did you get btfo when you have it a shot?

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>>377709430
>overhyped piece of shit
>suggests Overwatch and CSGO of all things

>>377709430
>overwatch
isn't even close to being in direct competition with a game like this
>CS:GO
yeah if you want a more barebones raw shooter go for this, but its not on the same level tactically

>>377709940
>Ubisoft has a number of good games
I can't think of any good AAA games from them in the past 5 years. Other than Siege.

>>377709430
>>377709940

Faggot you got it backwards. OW is a completely different game. CSGO is several hundred levels below in tactical depth. Most of the "tactical" elements from CSGO come from being extremely barebones

>>377708189
Is this worth picking up if i don't have a mic?

>>377710403
OW is a completely different game and it's shit.

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>>377709430
>overwatch
shallow and completely gimped level and character designed, there's no room for any new intresting strategies.

>cs:go
siege is like cs:go++, only with classes and gimmicks like destructible/reinforced walls and class restricted gadgets to change how the round plays out.

I like it but it is awful to play due to queues being anywhere from 5 minutes to over half an hour for whatever reason.

>>377710604
yes, i play unraked most of the time and barely anyone uses a mic (eu) as long as you are pinging you should be fine. a mic dose help tremendously though.

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So when are they gonna nerf this ridiculously ok sack of shit

>>377710936
If you don't find a game in 30 seconds back out and tr again. You'll normally get one instantly.

>>377710604
yes but you need headphones

>>377710958

Soon enough, in the stupidest, most roundabout way possible.

>removing smokes from Ash and Thermite and giving them to Jackal and fucking Fuze

Fuze doesn't fucking need smokes. Stuns and breaches are perfect for his loadout.

>>377710958
slower fire rate would be nice, introduce that and he'd be a more situational operator.
i pretty much always pick him on house because hes so op on it

>>377711041
I tended to do it after 2-3 minutes unless I was in a group. It's just insane that Ubisoft can't make it less terrible to find a casual game.

Who do you boys main
>IQ w/Aug
>casual Tachanka
>ranked Doc w/ shotgun

>>377711171
Honestly slower rate of fire and I don't know maybe some fucking recoil the things a lazer beam that does over 150 damage

>>377711319
Monty python
shotgun rook
spawn peeking smoke

>>377711161
>>377711171
>>377711463

Ya'll idiots, the main reason nobody picked Glaz was that his rifle was too slow and had a very heavy recoil. They're not going to change that.

If you want to nerf him for real, you got some more realistic approaches:

>Give his scope a battery, either a single charge that should be rationed for the round, or a rechargeable battery that lasts a few seconds and recharges when not aiming, sort of like Cav's silent step.

>Significantly lower the acquisition range for the thermal scope, that is, the target has to be very close to the center to show up as yellow, additionally you can make the edges of the sight murkier so that he's vulnerable to flanks

>make him unable to see through smoke

>add a gadget for defense that directly counters the scope

I just started playing two days ago, and got to level 21, should I wait to start ranked until I actually know the layout of the maps fully, and have a mic? Or should I just go in?

>>377712504
Just go in and learn as you go, i did that and im gold so i think im doing alright

>>377712073
>They're not going to change that.

You are in for a rude awakening.

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Is the standard edition fine? Can someone explain to me the difference between the year 2 gold edition and the complete whatever edition?

>>377712073
They should have mute jammers fuck with it like an emp on thermal scopes in mw2

>>377713047
No. It's a ripoff.

>>377713047
Year two gives you year two ops. Complete edition gives you year one and year two ops

>>377712504
Try to make friends, when everyone has a Mic ranked gets alot easier and honestly more fun, you can make call outs and shit

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>>377709430
CSGO is shit mate and Overwatch is pretty fucking different.
10/10 b8 made me reply.

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IQ's my waifu

>>377710604
No, because while you're taking years to type out information, I'm already dead.

>>377708189
>what went right
>shit hit detection and hitboxes
>skeleton crew
>shit matchmaking and net code
>retarded cancerous fanbase
>terrible balance
>uplay
Yeah it's fun for the first 30 hours but then you realize how shit it is

I'm very shit at this game and don't seem to be getting any better.

>>377709430
I have about 1000 hours into CSGO and like 140 into Overwatch, but I've been playing Siege mostly recently. I prefer CSGO's damage models (you can tell Siege is kinda fucked when firing rate and recoil are the main factors to consider when a gun is good or not) but Siege is still a super fun game. It's also probably one of the "smartest" shooters I've played, each round has so many goddamn factors to consider (what with gadgets, abilities, and how breakable maps are) that it stays fresh for a long time.

Siege sure as shit ain't perfect but it's the most fun I've had with a shooter in forever.

>>377710958
Reduce his smokes to like 1 and drop his firing rate and he's fine. He should be used as a tool for counter picking spawn peekers, but he is far too strong at close and medium range.

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>>377713804
She's my fav too ;^)

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>>377709430
Having played all 3 of those I can safely say that Rainbow Six Siege is BY FAR the best out of all of them.

>also shitting on the developer when the other 2 games were made by fucking blizzard and valve who haven't made a single good game since 2007

>>377713047
Just buy the base game. Don't get that starter version that gives you 5 free ops but makes the renown costs of all the base ops really high.

>>377713956
200+ hours in and I'm still digging it. Also the new update is supposed to improve the matchmaking and netcode, so hopefully some things get unfucked. Either way finding games has been much, much faster recently. Even at like 4 and 5 in the morning.

>>377713960
Memorize maps, use headphones, get low recoil high firing rate guns and aim at the head.

>>377714193
Foreal what happened blizzard, I can't stand overwatch and honestly Diablo 3 might be the worst game I've ever played

>>377708189
the memes are rather strong

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>>377714354
This. I haven't had this much fun with characters from a shooter since TF2.

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>Post yfw the Devs didn't even get close to finishing the 2nd season and didn't even have a map ready and just canceled it all together and said they cared about the community

The best part is that people bought their lies

>>377711319
MPX Valk, Shotty Smoke, Shotty Bandit
Para Capitao, MK17 Blackbeard, 556 Thermite

>>377714318
Still kinda salty about having to wait for new operators :/ but I'm glad they're gonna fix the matchmaking bugs
Honestly this is like the best fps I've ever played, it's so fun, name a game where getting kills is more satisfying

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>>377711161
>smokes for fuze

Great physical movement and hugely satisfying gunplay, and the destructible terrain mechanic makes for some wild rides since shit can turn on you in an instant in ways you weren't anticipating.
It's a hugely enjoyable game once you get to learn it and gud strategies for it.
The only problem is Ubisoft's fucking atrocious online system, and the irritating fact that so many engagements come down to whoever peeked first because the peeker's advantage means you're winning because of latency, which is too pure meta and I don't like meta shit.

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I'm mad about the lack of content we'll get the next 3 months. I am assuming nothing is happening for operation health considering it took months to fix jackel's arm in the main menu.

>>377714321
All my friends bought OW, and I think all of them put sub 100 hours into it. Shit's silly how hyped people were for that game. Hell, even most of /v/ was positive for it during the beta.

Also

>Playing Cav on the bank map
>third time playing her
>sneak up on a Fuze that's shooting at our Pulse
>down him from across our hallway
>about to take my interrogation
>our Rook shoots him as I'm 1 step away from him
>this same Rook hasn't deployed his armor bag either
>our Pulse asks why he did that
>he doesn't respond
>I call him a moron in all chat for not deploying his armor bag and for shooting the Fuze
>he says "you salty"
>next round starts, I follow him as Smoke
>point blank him with a shotgun to the back when he's running along the bank
>type "sry" into team chat
>he doesn't respond, game ends and we lose
>his only kill the entire game was that one downed Fuze

>enemy sees one pixel of my leg
>die
great "game"

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>>377714979
>mfw p90
Fuck me sideways, I'd kill for that gun on more operators. I love the ability to be laser accurate and have an ACOG on that fucker, but also have 51 bullets for panic mode or just keeping engaged without reloading.

>play with friend for months on the game
>game times out when trying to party with a friend
>no way of fixing it
>there are threads with this problem on reddit from 1 year ago
into the uninstall screen it goes

>>377715083
>anon can't get gud
>blames the game

>>377708189
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/mSXoA5fdA-_Xx2q5fLXoMQ/

>>377715083
Only applicable for glaz unless you're playing a filthy 3 speed and didn't pick up any armor.

>>377714992
>getting buttmad at people who don't know how the game works
You could have explained things, instead you ass caught fire.

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>>377714992
>outing yourself as a salty bitch
lol

>>377714992
you're a weak fucking sister anon
succumbing to literally most base bantz

>>377714992
Well the Rook definitely won in that scenario.He was probably laughing his ass off when your salty ass TK'd him.

I don't find this game fun.

>>377715083
Get out, nobody invited you

>>377713909
>dying

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What in the unholy fuck is up with Bandit's SMG? This thing is like a bipolar girlfriend. It's either the most amazing thing ever, I get all the peeks, laser niggas from across the map, flank around and also win close range engagements, OR the recoil decides we're gonna draw a perfect outline around the enemy and wiff every single shot. It's like rolling the god damn dice every time with this thing.

>>377715881
He knew what he was doing was wrong, he was just desperate for a kill so he took the one I was going to interrogate. Plus, I wouldn't have done anything if he didn't try shittalking me about it.

>>377716176
>>377716393
>someone starts griefing
>team kill them at the final round
>"lol u salty bruh"

I mean, if you want to be autistic sure, but if you're being cunty in casual I'll tk for the hell of it.

>>377709430
Show me on the doll where Glaz shot you.

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>>377714979
The p90 is pretty gud. Thing is a headshot machine. On another, I just wish echos primary guns were on par with his secondary weapons.

>>377716901
>griefing
He just stole a downed kill from you you autist
he only called you salty when you called him a moron, and he was fucking right

>>377716542
Go find a different board then...

>>377716530
>be desperate for kills
>only have 1, game is almost over
>die before getting a chance to get another
>so mad he can't even type in chat

>Cav will never rape you at knifepoint

why operate

>>377717048
But I just don't get why people like this game.

>used to be absolutely amazing during Black Ice, Dust and whatever Favela rotation was called
>leave game for a while
>come back for the spanish ops
>play like i'm handicapped
Its disheartening.

>>377717045
Not that guy but I'd call stealing a downed enemy from a Cav of all people griefing. If you're too new to understand, then you should ask what you did wrong instead of just sitting there quietly. Nigga deserved to be called a moron and TK'd for not actively trying to learn more about how he fucked up.

>>377708189
literally nothing

>>377717282
Is it not fun because you're bad at it?

>>377717048
>/v/
>liking vidja gaems
hownew.ru

>>377717378
Personally I flop around from making godly plays to acting like a retard and teamkilling, my consistency is shit.

>>377717282
For me personally it's the uniqueness. There aren't any other shooters out there right now with small engagements on close quarters maps with destructable walls and stuff. It's unique among shooters at the moment.

>>377717513
I don't know, I haven't really played much but it's too slow and methodical for my taste or something.

>>377709430
Overwatch and CSGO are just iterations on a tired formula, Siege is at least trying something new.

how do I git gud at this game


it feels like there's so many maps/classes/variables to learn

>>377717764
Play until you hit level 50. If you're still shit then, you can safely give up.

>>377717378
I've been playing like total shit for the longest time, until like last night. Something clicked and I've just been downing people left and right and getting top frags fairly often. It's odd because for a while I was always top fragging, then for like 70 hours I've been sitting at the bottom of the scoreboard for like every game.

I think the controls just take a while to really get used to, and you need confidence to push forward and score kills.

>>377717282
It's a fun fps game that has some solid depth while stressing aim and playing smart.

>>377717829
I was eating shit for a long time until last night and I just hit level 90 myself. Sometimes it takes a while to be consistent.

>>377717714
Siege is pretty much CS:2, in a good way. Overwatch is also not a tired formula at all, and I don't even like that game.

>>377717764
Maps is the very first thing, just play a fuckton of casual and learn every map and the room names. Tied into that, use callouts to help the team and use those room names in the call outs, as well as the compass and pings.

Beyond that is just positioning and crosshair placement. Be aware of where you can get fucked from in any given room and try to minimize that. Aim for the head at crouching level constantly, this is most likely where people will be.

Drone and camera anything you're unsure of if you have the ability to.

Other than that, just play more. You'll pick it up in time.

>>377717764
Play lots and maybe see a few videos on youtube about the basic things. Don't go all autistic on the meta though.
I'm at level 52 and I finally feel that I'm getting gud.

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>>377717880
>play fuze
>breaching charge is g and grenade cluster is middle click
>play shield recruit
>frag grenade is g and breaching charge is middle click
I lose a lot of grenades that way.

>>377710130
Call of juarez : gunslinger was fun
Trial Evolution too
Far cry 3 was enjoyable
South park the stick of truth was good
Steep is surprisingely good
For Honor is good

>>377717880
>depth
fuck that shit

bought this game on friday and im having a lot of fun with it. What tips do you guys have for me?

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>>377718458

>>377718515
Make sure you shoot the hostage when you see him, it makes it so the enemy team has to revive them or else they lose.

>>377718225
did she die

>>377718091
To add to the drones, try to save your initial drone or use to to check for people going for spawn kills. So many people seem to let their first drone just get shot needlessly when having 2 drones is incredibly helpful.

>>377718458
Multiplayer game's gotta have depth, or else it gets stale fast.

>>377716785
Why are there so many high tier female operators?

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>>377710958
>>377711161
>>377713980
>GLAZ IS OP
Fuck no. Thermal actually gave made him from a mostly useless camper to an actual threat. He can own the entire enemy team if the guy is good, but will fail horribly if unskilled.
I believe he is perfectly fine as it is - he still requires good amount of skill to play him well and makes the opposing team adjust their tactics when when he is present.
You have no idea how many scrubs I killed because they were trying to peak through the window, plain run around the windows I was sniping at, or trying to peak me THROUGH THE FUCKING SMOKE. Truly skilled guys attacked me from the side or waited me out.

tl;dr get fucking good.

>>377718828
>STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMYN WHO DON'T NEED NO MAN

>>377718995
Low skill detected.
Glaz +smoke on higher level can make defending certain spots impossible because you cannot fight him while his mates rush the objective. While you sit in a corner and can't stop anyone because peeking would be certain death.
1 smoke = 1 taken room.
Good thing it is taken away from him and must-have operators. At least you have to take shitter operators to make that work.

>>377718995
Having him toss a bunch of smoke grenades onto the point and have him push forward for free while everyone else needs to retreat is pretty rough dude. That and his firing rate is super high while his recoil is low as fuck. I just think he needs some minor tweaking really, but he's definitely not as bad as people make him out to be.

Weren't people also saying Jackal was OP when he came out?

>>377718515
Always lean around corners. If you're unsure about what's ahead as an attacker, remember to use your drone. Operate camera's if you're dead, or do it when your team has an area locked down. Twitch's drones are very useful, specifically for destroying player objects, Mira barriers can be opened with a Twitch drone. Use smoke grenades as Glaz, he has a thermal scope. As Mute, prioritize placing your jammers first and then move on to defense, you're failing your job as Mute if they find the objective. IQ can find the bomb if you haven't already, and IQ can see Pulse's heartbeat sensor if he's using it. Always get a deployable shield as Tachanka. Roam as Jager, he has a great assualt rifle. Caviera's pistol downs people, be aware of that, they also always roam.
Smoke is a good counter against attackers with shields, he can also clear out rooms well. Montagne is a nice addition to any team.

Could I play this game with a controller on PC and be successful? It looks alright but I'm terrible with keyboards.

how do i deal with flyinng nitros?

>>377718607
thats a good trick. thanks!
>>377719736
this is all really useful. thanks man.

>>377718828
Because why not? They wanted to make a 1:1 ratio between males and femals but also defenders and attackers, so most new defenders became women.
Only spergs like>>377719236 get mad at this work of fiction.

>>377718995

>hit the yellow spot
>good amount of skill

I don't think the thermal scope is a problem, because it actually makes him unique and gives him an edge over other operators that are only useful for brute force, but he should be tweaked. The best thing they can do is make his gadget more situational, and making it battery charged sounds stupid, so I think they should discourage using the thermal scope by increasing ADS time with it and increasing the scope so he has serious tunnel vision when using it in close quarters.

>>377720057

If you have a shield and they're alone, then ADS right away and pop them in the head. If not, then run away from wherever the nitro is.

>>377717378
>Played like complete ass the first year until japan
>Once japan hit, do really fucking good
>K/d is .3 and will never change no matter how good I am.
I just wish I could reset my damn k/d.

>>377720468
>Have stats that makes everyone leaves or call hax from the start.
>stats resets every season never

>>377711171
Single shot bolt action, one shot one kill. Who says no?

>>377708189
Nothing, it's shit.

>>377719736
I would add, don't use Smoke's beauties until the last minute, it's absolute kino to watch the enemy team panic and because the time is running out but they don't want to get poisoned by running into the smoke.

What's your otp?

>>377721359
IQ x my dick

>>377720059

I hope you're not actually considering shooting the hostage. Whoever downs the hostage has to revive them or else it's a loss for their team.

>>377721359
>Shippershit
Fuck off.

>>377721359
Tachanka x Montagne

If I get a 5, Project Health kills Siege.
If I don't Project Health will kill Siege anyway.

>>377721359

Echo x Twitch

>>377708189
The game turning out decent like it did was surprising considering Ubisoft's shitty track record and downgrades. Plus post-launch support is something that's always nice to see.

>>377721716
The only reason they're still supporting it is because they keep releasing $40 pay2win DLC every few months

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>>377721619

>>377721619
>autists can't wait three months and leave a game forever
Good riddance.
Ubisoft is a huge pile shit what did you expect?

>>377721979
What the fuck are you on about lmao? Have you played the game?

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>1 speed
>loud as fuck when running
>damage is mediocre
>traps are obvious to most players

Just give Kapkan an ACOG and ill be happy for another 4 months. Its the russian acig too which is shitty so its not like he'll suddenly be OP

>>377721979
>pay2win
You never played the game

>>377722198
>every new dlc op has been way too OP when they're first introduced
>get nerfed by the time most nonpass owners get the chance to unlock them

He kinda has a point.

>>377719991
No, twitch aim is highly stressed. Head shots are all 1 shot kills, and people often take automatics and snap to the head and spray to get kills. You really can't succeed with a controller in a game like this.

>>377720812
A 1 shot to the body sniper in this game would be kind of annoying. It also seems like it'd be largely useless.

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>>377713998
> Shad "Anus" Man

>>377721979
>>377722368
This

Every new operator has been OP as fuck on release

>>377722368
>frost
>buck
>valk
>caveira
>capitao
>hibana
>echo
>OP ever
You never played the game

>>377722085
Why would you continue playing when you know the netcode is shit? You might as well wait.
Why would you continue playing when you know the netcode is shit after Project Health just releases the foundation for loot crates and improves on nothing?

>>377722168
Kapkan's job is not to roam, but instead to pick some room outside the objective to hide in and then use his silenced smg to fuck them from behind. Not exactly a unique role but there it is. As for his traps, you just have to hope an autistic Ash rams into them or put them on the other side of deployable barricades.

>>377722368
He doesn't beceause by definition you can get all the DLC content for free. And frankly I find it hard to believe that someone wouldn't have enough renown to buy the operators as soon as they're availible.
And how was, say, Hibana and Echo OP? Or Mira? Capitao? What teh fuck are you on about?

>>377722548
Frost shotgun was beyond OP

>>377722402
>You really can't succeed with a controller in a game like this.

Console has reduced recoil to help this, but yeah controller on PC is a bad idea.

Console Siege is more fun than PC anyway, more of a firefight even tho PC is objectively superior.

>>377722753
>Auto shotguns were beyond OP
Ftfy

>>377722545
They get rebalanced quickly, it's more an issue of balancing them out rather than it being "pay 2 win". If it were P2W they would never balance them out.

>>377722168
Putting traps in odd spots works shockingly well. I like putting them at knee level in rooms near the objective, that way if a firefight breaks out there it's likely that an enemy will charge into the room for cover.

Putting them on barricaded doors is pretty damn pointless though.

>>377722869
Not like Frost's was. Even after the nerf aimed at her it was still ridiculously good.

>>377722402
Well maybe next time.

>>377722785
>Console Siege is more fun than PC anyway
someone post the webm pls

>>377722610
I'm a kapkan main since black ice, I get EDD kills all the time. The key is being unpredictable and read their attack paths and clever concealment.

Oh and Kapkan can most definitely be a roamer, in fact after placing my traps Im so slow that I often get stuck roaming. Yeah theres better roamers but with patience he's great at it.

2/2 or an ACOG would be a huge benefit to his playstyle without unbalancing him

>>377722987
Ok i give you frost and BB as OP operators that took too long to fix.
But saying every new operator was OP, so people buy the pass, is fucking retarded.
They were seen as OP by low skill fags that couldn't handle the change of the meta play and didn't know how to counter them.
After one week everyone except those two i mentioned wasn't seen as OP because everyone knew how the new meta was playing out.

Saying they are OP just shows that the person saying this is a mad poor fag with no skill.

>>377722656
Plenty of people got on the siege train pretty late. They've released figures that show a year into siege was way more popular than at release, and the new players don't have the luxury of AFK farming for renown.

Hell I bet Year 1 DLC ops are STILL 25k, that's 200,000 renown right there

>>377708189
Nothing.

>>377723386
He definitely deserves a 2/2, there's no reason for 3 out of 4 Russian ops to be 1 speeds.

>>377723386
Yeah, so many morons place his traps at entry windows and door and are surprised when they never get kills. It's the same deal with placing floor mats, be unpredictable with them.

>>377722995
If you have a PC that can run Siege you should really learn how to use a KB+M set up. It really doesn't take long, but Siege does use a fuckton of keys so it's probably a bad game to start with.

>>377711161
Where is this info found

>>377723013
fuck off with tired console war shit. I said it's more fun, not more accurate.

>>377723874
Kek fuck off. Not being able to aim accurately is hardly fun.

>>377723674
Yup. I bought the game late, I'm currently level 70 and only have two season 1 ops.

The grind is real.

>>377724009
Everybody is at an even playing field with controllers.I agree with the other anon that it's more fun on console

>>377724052
>starter edition
That's your mistake.
From the /vg/ faq:
Which edition should I buy?

Standard is the normal base game. You will need to unlock all your operators. Vanilla ones are normal price, DLC ones are 25k each.
Gold is the base game + Year 2 Season Pass. You will need to unlock Classic and Year 1 DLC operators. You will get Year 2 DLC operators automatically. Vanilla ones are normal price, DLC ones are 25k each.
Complete is the base game + Year 2 Season Pass + Year 1 Operators. You will need to unlock Classic operators. You will get Year 1 and 2 DLC operators automatically. Vanilla ones are normal price.

Starter is a gimped base game. You will need to unlock all your operators. They will be more expensive than normal. DON'T GET THIS. It will turn up the grind to Korean MMO levels. Don't fall for the Starter Edition meme.

>>377724009
>he can't aim with a controller

shit son git gud

>>377724282
I knew what I was getting into when I bought the base game. It was on sale and much cheaper.

The whole character unlock system is kinda stupid. Overwatch did it right.

>>377724194
I have a hard time wrapping my head around that mindset, but more power to you I guess. I mean, everyoe is at an even playing field when using KB+M, come on. Don't get me wrong, I've played my fair share of FPS on consoles, I've got like 500 hours clocked in BF:BC2 on PS3, but I just can't imagine going back to that - much less willingly.

>>377724480
You get a lot more new characters in Siege though, OW has only had 3 so far and one of them has been complete dogshit.

>>377724301
Can we not have this argument?

>>377723551
And capitao (3 spd/frag/amazing AR)
and valk (spas12)

Also many new ops like Hibana are simply superior replacements to older ops.

>>377724716
Jager, Smoke, Rook, Ash, and Thatcher all have high pick rates in pro leagues. Trying to say the game is P2W is just untrue.

>>377723829

clips twitch tv
slash
VictoriousKnottySmoothieKappaRoss

>>377724651
>Siege has terrible networking
>Extremely accurate prefired peeks that kill people before they're even aware
>competitive

No thanks. I play many PC FPS but siege on PC is just not as fun as console, maybe if the engine wasn't garbage. Theres a reason the pro scene is laughable.

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>>377708189
The good
>orgasmic destruction mechanics
>immersive sound design
>solid gunplay
>decent balancing

The bad
>character designs are getting worse
>some maps are really shitty
>shit netcode

The ugly
>pic related

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concept is phenomenal & intricate
game itself is a pile of discarded pieces from other projects
still incredibly buggy, maps lack design direction, hostage rescue is retarded, shitty wheel drones can climb stairs for fuck sake.
but the operators are fun, varied & interact

>>377725193
Currently no it is not P2W. But it was and might be again in the future.

>inb4 new players should've saved up 400,000 renown if they wanted characters

>>377722548
Are you kidding me? Frost's super 90 could literally down 3 armor ops in 2 shots from 10-15 feet away, there's some webm where someone gets an ace on Kafe hallway with it.
Valk's shotgun could headshot you up to 30 feet away and would down you in 1 hit close quarters, and she had 4 cameras.

Buck's CAMRS would kill 1 armor ops in 1-2 shots with almost 0 recoil. The other ops were alright, never op.

sheer luck, ubisoft is completely fucking incompetent
(see: ophealth)

>>377726171

The drones got a sort of antenna in the back that allows them to go through stairs

>>377726130
I hate how they started dolling up female ops like Twitch. She looks so fucking stupid now compared to release, with her lipstick and painted fingernails.

>>377726539
>new characters are OP for a short while before they become balanced

Wowsers.

>>377726171
> maps lack design direction

The maps are fantastic, minus some balancing issues.

>shitty wheel drones can climb stairs for fuck sake.

So you admit to having autism?

>>377727296
>new characters are extremely OP for a time mostly only season pass owners and people who got to afkfarm renown get to experience them.
Yowzers

>>377727296
New OPs haven't been overpowered since Dust Line.

>>377709430
Because TF is better than Overshit and CSS is better than CSGO.

Siege really does feel new and the gunplay is raw, it feels great. Prepare to get stomped till about level 30 though.

>>377727916
The recoil is far too low in Siege and the damage models are too high, with 1 shot headshots being a bad idea all around. The game would be goddamn perfect if they tweaked these two aspects and then made the netcode better/hammered out all the bugs.

>>377727706
Yeah, because Jackal and Mira are super OP.

>>377728298
How is one shot head shot bad in any game? It's 100% the correct thing to put into an fps...

>>377722548
No, YOU never played the game. Frost was basically a fucking sniper on release, valkyries shotgun was a slightly toned down sniper-90 and had 4 cameras.

Hibana is still OP because shes one of the 3 speed menaces and has a fucking OP gun and an ability which is always necessary

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>>377728298
>4/5 of DLC ops have been imba on arrival
>1/5 were balanced at release haha checkmate!!!

>>377728408
It fucks gun balance and it makes low recoil, low damage, high rate of fire weapons the end all be all best weapons in the game. It also adds a bigger degree of luck to the game, as spamming/prefiring said weapons at head level can result in an easy kill.

Having 1 shot headshots as is lowers the skill ceiling, as does the increadibly high damage on body shots. If they lowered both and made headshots a 4 times damage boost and balanced the game around that it would make it much deeper. It's silly spamming an auto pistol at someone you can't see and scoring a kill because some random bullet found his head hitbox.

>>377728676
>5/5 DLC operators are currently balanced
>THE GAME IS PAY2WIN!

>>377721359
>Buck x Twitch
>Blackbeard x Valkyrie
>Thermite x Ash
>Jackal x Caveira

>>377728698

I don't know why you think any of this is bad. That is how this particular FPS is played and most players love it due to that. The game is about playing smart, I don't think it lowers the skill ceiling at all.

The game is fantastic in my opinion, I feel you learn more as you play unlike css or such.

>>377729058
CS has a deeper skill ceiling due to the higher recoil (punishing missed shots much more viciously) and the more balanced damage. If you make every gun in CS a 1 shot to the head kill you would see P90 spam dominating the game, which would lower the skill ceiling drastically.

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I love this game and all the people who play it.

>>377722753
Unless of course you're more than 5 feet away.

>>377718428
>Call of juarez : gunslinger
Was that Ubi developed?
I thought it was techland

>>377729284

Well I think you are wrong, I have been playing CSS for about 12 years and think siege has way more depth to it.
Most of CSS's depth comes from RNG bullets and unpredictable recoil.

totally objective criticisms

>Hitscan and your shots spawn from your sight's chevron not from gun's muzzle, which allows for micropeeks, so much for "tactical"

>all these balancing issues (Some base ops are STILL useless like castle,blitz,IQ,kapkan and tachanka, And other ops basically held an eternal slot in the team, like valk or pulse or hibana because of how fucking valuable they are)

>Overexaggerated recoil, real life guns don't kick so goddamn hard.

>Movement is crap, i can move prone while ADS, seriously what the fuck?

>Lighting is waaaaay too exaggerated, did ubiniggers ever look through a window? shit's either too dark if you look from outside, or too bright if you're on the inside

>DLC ops design is fucking cancer, look at hibana or caviar

Technical issues
>Lighting is still broken
>Headshots are still being ignored
>Netcode and hitreg fuckery
>matchmaking is cancer
>Ranked still fucking beta
>and more bugs appearing every update

Fucking hell even Vegas 2, which was shit, is better.

>>377729613

>Vegas 2 is better

Oh your just shit posting? Nevermind.

Anyway, if they don't fuck operation health a lot of the bullshit should be fixed.

>>377729613
>Castle
>IQ
>useless
thats a funny thing to say about ops that are used in pro and ranked play

Sure I agree with the rest of what you said but IQ is good as she is - a tactical choice to respond to a teams play you saw in a previous round. And Castle is map dependent. Which is OK. Like Mira, he makes some sites more defendable. Like Mira, you don't need to take him EVERY TIME.

>>377729284
>>377729058
>>377728698
NETCODE
That's your skill ceiling right there.

>Ash
>Sonicjew peek
>Prefire
None of this is skill. If you're playing siege competitively at all then just neck yourself.

>>377729981

Which will be fixed in OP Health.

>>377718828
Useful gadgets?

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>>377709430
Oh please, Overwatch wasn't even the best shooter released last year.

>>377730120
No it won't. They're increasing the tick rate from 50 to 60. Which is amusing since they said last year they changed the servers from 30 tick to 60. So they were lying the whole time.

Anyhow 10 extra calls a second aren't going to make a difference when the other team has 200 ping and is using a 3 speed.

>>377729809
Yes you nigger, it is better, unlike siege Vegas didn't have any game breaking bugs that the devs are struggling to fix, and it didn't have abhorrent netcode, and it sure as hell didn't have any crappy unbalancing issues, oh, and you can actually use Night vision too since Vegas's lighting system ISNT TOTALLY BROKEN.

>>377729603
Siege has arguably more RNG (all recoil is RNG, Siege's is just easier to control RNG, not to mention hipfire). I've also been playing CSS and GO for like a few thousand hours and hit LEM in GO, and I have like 250 hours into Siege.

I'd agree that Siege is a smarter shooter due to the maps and all the variables at play during a match, but on a mechanical level it's an easier, more RNG version of CS. People here will argue against this because they hate CS's recoil system, but it's true. You can't fully control were your next shot is going to land out of an automatic gun in either game, which is were the RNG comes from. CS is just more punishing on people who continue to spray and who miss their first shots.

Depth is a very tricky thing to argue, but the 1 shot headshots mixed with the very easy to control recoil results in some fairly easy kills.

>>377729613
The game ain't hitscan, it'd be impossible for two people shooting at each other to kill each other if the game was hitscan, and I've double downed/traded headshots with other players multiple times.

It's sad how many people think the game is hitscan.

>>377730369

You don't know shit about servers anon, stop pretending you know what tick rates mean just cos you seen css server names with it in. These are newest gen servers which are faster. Plus everything is being moved server side instead of some of it being client.

Why are you even in the thread?

>>377729959
Yeah compared to the rest of the defenders they're pretty fuckin' useless

why pick IQ when you can pick fuze or thatcher or thermite or any other infinitely useful operator?

why pick castle when you can pick valk or bandit or jager?

>>377726171
>still incredibly buggy
Like what? other than a few visual bugs
>maps lack design direction
completely disagree, maps are great
> hostage rescue is retarded
I would agree with that, hostage rescue is almost never feasible and games in general are 90% death match with actual attention to bombs/area securing/hostage rescuing being usually very low
>shitty wheel drones can climb stairs for fuck sake.
so what

>>377730604
Because I play and enjoy Siege so I wanted to read a thread on it. Thank you for asking.

I'm also not the person who you originally quoted and you are a retard who thinks they know quite a lot and aren't afraid to share your stupidity and in just a few short months, Ubisoft will let you down because you believed in magic words like tickrate that you don't understand.

Good day faggioli.

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>>377730821
>you fucking retard
>sprint into the room when someone just got killed by caveira

>>377730562
>The game ain't hitscan, it'd be impossible for two people shooting at each other to kill each other if the game was hitscan, and I've double downed/traded headshots with other players multiple times.
Yes, it is hitscan and the reason you trade headshots is because you don't die right after being shot, but a few milliseconds after getting shot.

>>377730821
>Calls people retards while rushing without pieing his corner and aims down only after entering

you're a bigger retard

>>377730850
>Like what? other than a few visual bugs
https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/search?sort=new&restrict_sr=on&q=flair%3AIssue%2FBug
http://blog.ubi.com/rainbow-six-siege-launching-operation-health-improve-experience/

????

what are you even trying to do here anon

Siege can't even go a month without the servers crashing and there being 12-72 hour outages.

Operation Health - Brought to you by the professionals who 'fixed' the lighting.

I love Siege, I haven't enjoyed a game this much in a long time. The Dev team is a skeleton crew at this point and I'm sure they're very hard working and nice individuals. But there's only so much a handful of people can do to fix problems at the core of the game, especially since its the engine thats the problem.

>>377731020
For real? That's mad goofy. Either way, hitscan is preferable in a game like this. Close range combat means bullet physics are largely pointless, it would just make the netcode issues all that much worse.

>>377718995
>try to be a sniper with Glaz
>most of the time I dont see shit and when I do, I miss horribly
>forced to go inside as Glaz and take the objective
>suddenly I'm a seemingly omniscient Russian machine of war, handing out death one bullet at a time
I really wish I knew how to actually play Glaz

>>377729583
My bad you're right

>>377729613
>needing projectiles in a game where the average kill distance is around 7.5 meters
>>377730562
Siege is hitscan though

>>377730905

I don't even know where to fucking start with this train wreck of a response. Glad you enjoy the game kiddo!

>>377731640
:) thanks

>>377717242
I don't think you know how people work.

>>377731451
>needing projectiles in a game where the average kill distance is around 7.5 meters
Yes you need it in every damn game or else you end up with the current fuckery like when a player can peek and kill someone just by sticking out 3 pixels of his eyes and not his gun or when someone peeks through a microscopic hole and kills someone from 40 miles away using an ACOG which is an unfair advantage

>i unironically abuse that sorry not sorry

>>377709430
Because I don't wanna play a game with a classic FPS style map, doing classic FPS things

>>377732692
>playing CS
>enemy team's carry is talking mad shit
>we start to make a comeback
>he goes on tilt
>he headshots his teammate at round start
>we win, we start shit talking
>entire enemy team is dead silent

This is how it works 90% of the time, people get over emotional and it's impossible to bant when you've already lost.

>>377710958
Give him an SMG sidearm and like 10 sniper bullets

>>377718995
>or wait me out
>throw smokes into a room and walk in until you're still in the smokes and in a position where you can see enemies behind cover

>>377716785
How are you not controlling that recoil? It's not exactly kicking like an LMG

>>377729613
>He uses the castle walls to defend the site and not to deny space somewhere else to funnel attackers and buy his team time.

t.Bronze II

>>377710958
Keep smoke mechanic, remove piss highlighter that allows him to peek 3 pixels of yellow and kill without manually spotting player outline/movement

>>377733797
See the difference in the two situations is that Rook was on your team and obviously wasn't taking the game as seriously as you were. And his call out of you being salty was valid because your salt caused you to throw. No point in reacting to your cry for attention TK when you can just have a nice laugh at it.

>>377724651
Neither form is perfect but since no one can fucking aim on console the game starts to resemble more of what you'd expect from Siege: I.E. slow pace, holding angles, trying to put more guns in the right places than just twitch reflexes.

Granted, that still means that when shit does start going down it's a clusterfuck because no one can fucking aim so everyone's just spraying wildly like madmen.

But on PC the game has just turned into 3-speed abuse unless Ubisoft manages to fix it in 3 months which I doubt they'll be able to when it really feels more like a server issue which the 20-man team that Siege currently staffs has no control over.

>>377729613
The meta was already a roamer meta, so whats wrong with introducing a roamer op too?
Because you have to check the level?

>>377734323
He was grieifing and he only went for the kill because he was desperate for it. Like I said before, you shouldn't expect to greif and then talk shit and receive 0 repercussions.

Also I wasn't throwing, even with the kill I gave him I was still doing better than him.

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>>377717015
>team has glaz
>entire team dies
>he's still outside
>NOW he goes in 5v1
>he either dies a pitiful death
>or clutches and wins the 5v1

It's honestly uncommon for a glaz to be useful before the very end. But then again I only play casual

>>377734690
You fell for his grief hook line and sinker. You threw and you lost. If you think a griefer cares about winning you're a moron. It's all about getting reactions, which you gave.

>>377734948
>But then again I only play casual
There you have it.

>>377734145
I did try it and it doesn't work very well, since half of the fucking cast mains sledge,glaz, the speedy jew and literally every op that has grenades

>>377734684
I'm talking about character design, retarded outfits like that do not belong into a shooter game, they look like something you'd see on a korean MMO

>>377734975
He cared about getting kills, as dictated by him going to desperate lengths to secure one and then ignoring the team when they told him not to do that. I robbed him of his ability to get a better score and it upset him to the point of not responding.

That and killing him didn't negatively effect me or my team at all, nor do I really care about winning in casual.

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Just make year 1 ops 15K for the love of god

>>377735529
You don't just assume someone is mad when they don't react to your autistic tantrum. It's likely they were in your CS story but certainly not in your sad Siege one.

>>377734445
>since no one can fucking aim on console the game starts to resemble more of what you'd expect from Siege

QFT

>>377735542
25k isn't that much truth be told, you should get it by 100 or 200 hours played.

It's a little sad when you have them all.

>>377735787
Either way, I took from him and he took nothing from me, so I don't really see how me team killing him is me losing some sort of 4D chess game. He also had full intent to play and try during the next round.

>>377736148
He took your dignity.

>>377736127
Dude, I have 228 hours into Siege and I got Valk, Jackal, Buck, and Hibana for free.

>>377736413
I had the last laugh, and there's nothing he can do to change that. There's nothing honorable about allowing people to walk all over you.

>>377736598
On steam or on your r6stats that only tracks actual matches

cause steam says I have like 300 hours and I barely have 100 actual gametime hours

>>377736598
I guarantee everyone on your team was laughing at your salt. You can rationalize it however you want but you really took the raging cowards way out.

>>377736691
On steam, so it's going to be even less in game/matches. It really doesn't take long to unlock them for free, and some of them aren't even that good.

>>377736805
good !fun

>>377736734
My team was actually agreeing with me and calling him out for taking the kill. You can project and make all the vast assumptions you want though.

>>377736127
>100-200 hrs just to unlock basic characters

This is not a good thing.

>>377708189
nothing, it's a shit game that people shit at fps play to pretend they're good at something.

It's so fucking broken that ubisoft has to dedicate 3 months to try to fix the game with a roadmap that's worst than what a first year business student can make.

You want to climb high in the ranked mode that's in beta for almost 2 years now? Switch regions and rush in as att with ash, or spawn peek as def jager.

>>377736943
Sure

>>377736947
>basic
>dlc
good bait mate

>>377737015
Not an argument.


:^)

>>377736947
You can unlock all the basic characters within like 20 hours, and you can unlock multiple DLC characters within 200 hours.

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>250 renown per 15-20 match
>100 matches to unlock 1 DLC character
>30 hours to unlock 1 DLC character
>10 DLC operators/300 hours
>/v/ will defend this

Frost and Buck might as well be base characters at this point. No reason they shouldn't be 10k at this point unless they're trying to sell you something...

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>>377734690
>>377717242
>>377714992
>>377735529
I just want you to know, you were in the right anon. I'd have shot him for you again so you didn't get kicked.

>>377737831
Do you just want replies or do you have something to say that is worth reading?