Should I... mess someone up?

all these warcraft3 threads.. is blizzard shilling for remaster of warcraft3?

>>377696025
I should probably start too.

We need more good RTS

>>377696025
That's ridiculous, we're busy making great games, we don't have time to post on 4chan

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>wc3 gets remastered
>wc3 dota becomes popular
>kills dota 2 and hots

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>>377696089
Glad you could make it, Mike Morhaime.

>>377696484
Why would it kill Dota 2? Dota 2 is literally nothing like Dota 1 and neither is Hots.

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>>377696484
Valve is what is going to kill DOTA 2.
Also can't wait for the abomination that will be the remaster.
>le cartoony WoW graphics
Can't wait.

>>377696085
>warcraft 3
>good rts

Pick one.

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>>377696569
>Dota 2 is literally nothing like Dota 1

>>377697092
it's not really great on a competitive level but it is fun as fuck

>>377697092
Autist or your gay pick one

>>377697262
Its the same thing.

>>377697092
RAUS

is it going to be free like the starcraft one?

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>>377695965
Don't mind me, just going along my way being proved objectively right due to Blizzard's incompetence.

>>377697561
How could one man be so tragic?

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>>377696519
Watch your tone with me Activision

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>>377697561

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>>377697746
>"Can your blood atone for genocide, orc? Your Horde killed countless innocents with its rampage across Stormwind and Lordaeron. Do you really think you can just sweep all that away and cast aside your guilt so easily? No, your kind will never change, and I will never stop fighting you."
>mfw 10 years later

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Anyone else noticed how WoW boars and WC3 boars have the same model?

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>>377697561
Tragic heroes thread?

>>377698274
fuck garithos and fuck humans

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>>377698274

>>377698216
Are you the only person in the world that doesn't know WoW runs on a modified version of the W3 engine?

>>377698274
How the fuck do you even program that? Or do you do every skulls path individually?

>>377698469
What does this have anything to do with unit models?

>>377698569
They just make the boar bigger and look slightly better while keeping most of the animations. Lots of stuff in wow is done like this.

>>377698508
you can just make any particle be in formation and then add various effects like rotating

warcraft 3's editor was super easy to do a lot with

>>377698361
should've made it so every mob gives 6million

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>>377698630
Yeah, these two also have the same wow animations.

>>377698361
Thats wisp racist.

>>377697746
Misses a picture between those two where that filthy whore Jaina gives permission for the Alliance to stage an invasion of the barrens through her territory.

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>>377698806
Wait what? Didn't the Draenei get retconnect into space goat octopuses?

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>>377698940
They're called lost ones now.

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>>377699034
Holy shit just kill everyone at Blizzard please. Love the love of god let someone go on rampage this E3 and kill the Blizzard staff there. Isn't it like the first open door E3?

>>377698940
Yeah, but the Draenei we see in Frozen Throne are just "corrupted" and fucked up physically. They never tell us how they actually looked before

Then they decided to turn Eredar into Draenei and change the skin color a bit.

Completely lazy and stupid. Mostly because there is no visual difference between the two. Every other Burning Legion demon that got corrupted changed it's physic so utterly and completely it can be called a separate race. But they just gave blue skin and a shitty accent to these cunts and then shoved in muh Naaru and spaceships, basically tried to turn them into WC3 Protoss but then thought better of it

>>377699275
As much as I hated that, I prefer anything from BC to anything that happened post BC story-wise

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>>377698216
>>377698630
>>377698806


Friendly reminder that WoW STILL essentially runs on an ancient, super bloated, and over-updated/under-engineered WC3 Engine.

>>377696484
I can only imagine that happening if they make the original WC3 free just like SC1

>>377697190
he is right tho

>>377699527
Dota 2 is updated very similarly to Dota 1, which was different within itself patch by patch

Dota 2's base game is still very much where Dota 1 left off, though

>>377698937
Doesn't need it, The Horde started chimping out in Kalimdor before Varian decided to use Theramore as a staging point.

>>377698937
Misses a picture before that where thrall allows the warsong to attack the night elf's territory

>>377699886
>allows the warsong to attack the night elf's territory
>Allows.
Warsong were not "allowed", they were just followers of the leeroy jenkins strategy.

>>377699886
Neither Thrall nor Grom knew that the Night Elves exist.

>>377699480
and technically call of duty still runs on an over-updated quake 3 engine

Man, I can't wait to see the Warcraft 4 tease at this year's blizzcon.

>>377697052
>le cartoony WoW graphics
as opposed to le realistic W3 graphics?

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>>377700112
hmmmmmmmm

>>377699480
>>377700172
love this kind of shit
like how fallout 4 still has codes for stats, skills and classes from morrowind and oblivion

>>377697239
what makes you say this? there's a pretty respectable competitive scene for wc3

>>377700236
should i pirate and play wc3 campaign it looks fun as fuck

>>377699275
>Every other Burning Legion demon that got corrupted changed it's physic so utterly and completely it can be called a separate race.
first off, we don't know this is true, and secondly, that did happen to the eredar. They're called wrathguards. And there are differences

>>377700236
What the fuck does this suppose to prove?
This happened after Grom's death. Thrall sent Grom to chop wood only few days after they landed on Kalimdor.

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>>377700321
>he hasn't played it 30 times and doesn't know every line of dialogue by heart

enjoy the underage ban

>>377698361
my fucking sides, i kept seeing the garithos one but never saw this, it caught me off guard real good

>>377700387
i was busy playing aoe2 to play wc3 when it came out

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>>377700213
They worked because of the low tech aesthetic. And you would think with better tech they would translate to more realistic. You know, the whole leave it to the imagination thing. Imagine if quake just upped the res on the models they would look retarded and cartoony but they look fine in Quake. If anything they should Dota 2 looks like a much better alternative despite the tendency to overdesign.

>>377700418
>never okayed WC3 campaign
I'd gladly have my mind erased so I can play it again for the first time, you're lucky anon

>>377700385
I confused Grommash and Garrosh for a moment.

>>377700321

It is a great campaign. Tons of memorable levels.

The early human missions drag a little bit, especially if you know how to play the game, but by the time you're in the undead campaign it really picks up.

>>377700172
There's also how the Source engine is an update of an update to the Quake 1 engine

>>377700112
I'm talking about the WoW era. In vanilla warsong were still attacking night elves.

>>377698216
It's the same model in Diablo 3 as well

>>377697190

There's already a few years gap in updates since the last version of WC3 DotA is at 6.83d while Dota 2 is already at 7.06b

>>377696025
They confirmed they are doing remasters of D2 and Warcraft 3 back when they also said Starcraft Brood War.

>>377698216
the animation of Misha in the Founding of Durotar home screen is the same as the bear model WoW still uses now

>>377700701
>d2 in hots engine
i take two

>>377700268
It's unbalanced as shit and to be honest, a bit stale. The Undead are basically worthless in comp play.

>>377700562
I would give anything to defend hyjal again

>>377700859
>in hots engine
The SC1 remaster is just the same engine with the ability to display higher-res sprites

>>377699517
wc3 is already free

nobody plays on the battle.net with 300 ms ping

>>377700859
It would be the same shit as Brood War HD. Its the exact same thing overlayed with better visuals. So they don't fuck up the pathfinding, and general feel of the game. SC2 could never EVER feel like Brood War.

I do wonder if it would mess up WC3 custom maps, anyone know how the custom maps for the original Brood War translate to Brood War HD? Minor changes to make them work or need to start from scratch?

>>377698274
Daelin was a good friend, and did nothing wrong.
Garithos, however, was a fucking retard.

>>377699480
WC3 Engine had unlimited potential.
Just look at the shit that the map maker could do.
Anyone here played SotdRP?

>>377700321
WC3 campaign is good, but I think the TFT campaign is even better (definitely try both). The first and last undead mission still give me a hard time on Hard difficulty.

>>377701271
He was right in what he did, Kael would have betrayed him, Sylvanas would have killed him.

>>377705031
He was literally mind controlled by a demon bruv

>>377705498
Except he wasn't. The remaining human settlements' leaders were.

>>377705498
in the end it was kael who became a demon servant

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>>377705667

>>377705667
But he was though, there is even a custcene where one of them is giving him orders

>>377705980
>in the end it was kael who became a demon servant
And it was buttfucking retarded the way they did it. Burning Crusade was full of character assassination, we just didn't know how much worse it would get in later expansions.

>>377705980
Yes, in case you haven't noticed the only bad guys in warcraft are "demon corrupted" or "old god corrupted"

>>377701729
When I was little I'd load up MRP or SotDRP in a custom game by myself and just play out my own little stories. It was so much fun.

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>>377706024
So Garithos really did no wrong?

is there any RTS with better online than Warcraft 3?
>thousands of different modes
>autism containment zones (DoTA)
>fun coop modes
>vampirism, hero line, footmeen, angel arena..

>>377706478
And neither did Kael, or Illidan, or Arthas or anyone really.

Except Garrosh fuck him.

>>377706502
The endless possibilities of cheesy strats are what made WC3 so fun for me. I fucking love invisibility and zeppelin harass.

>>377706502
aoe2

>thousands of different modes
>autism containment zones (CBA)
>fun coop modes
>GTO, feudal wars, RPGs, trebuchet wars..

>>377698508
each projectile is a unit
A stored point in the middle of the mess logs each unit into a group set and logs each individual unit's location plus a little teeny bit ahead of the direction its going and then moves it there over the course of .04 seconds mimicking movement. another trigger checks every .04 seconds to see if any units matching conditions (i.e. enemy, alive, not doodad.) and deals a set amount of damage. ( I personally like to add a variable that increases it like heros Strength x 0.25 to stop flat boring damage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXDqsgtmNc
shit like pic related is cool but laggy as shit due to the amount of units on screen at any given moment

>>377698216

The boar was one of the first models made for WoW, I'm not surprised they used it for the Quilbeast in Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne.

>inb4 "WoW wasn't in development before Frozen Throne released".

>>377706502
>unwieldy way with which to search for games
>hosting bots ended up dominating the selection
>most of them are DotA or DotA clones
>making your own match will at best be populated at a snails pace
>since anyone looking for it will have to spam refresh to have a chance of finding it
>unless you coordinated with some people in the chatrooms
>if they're one letter off then they now have to resort to refresh spam and sifting through bothosted games

The content was legit though.

>>377698508

Dude, you should see some of the animations in the original Dota in it's later period. Shit was fucking off the wall what Icefrog did with that engine.

>>377706142
he was a demon servant in warcraft 3 too, didnt you play the campaign
>>377706295
thats because blizzard is fucking trash

>>377706612
retard, Illidan did EVERYTHING wrong, kael was a manahungry whore who sold out the allience

>>377700353
Fel-Orcs

>>377706678
wasnt GTO the map where you have to fortify a base and hide for like 2 hours

christ ive spent whole afternoons playing that shit

>>377707256
Pretty sure Illidank saved Azeroth twice or so.
Also Kael saved his people until BC where everything went full retard

>>377696025
you should shill yourself into a noose

>>377707256
>he was a demon servant in warcraft 3 too
It's been a few years, remind me when this happened?

>>377700507

>Those alpha/beta Icons
>Hellfire Blast
>Vampiric Aura
>Mortal Strike
>Reincarnation

All amazing.

>>377707537
Mind controlled by Detheroc (I think), one of the three Dreadlords that were tasked to watch over the scourge in Lordaeron.

>>377707486
he brought the demons there in the first place

as for saving the elves, no he doomed them by joining the legion, because muh sunwell - Jaina's high elves were fine

>>377707537
Joined the naga and illidan who work for the burning crusade. Even the humans knew who the naga worked for.

>>377707063
>>most of them are DotA or DotA clones
This is just wrong though.

>>377700867
T. Brainlet orc blademaster rusher

>>377707063
What was the purpose of hosting bots anyway

>>377707687
oh nvm thought you were talking about Garithos

>>377707740
Cross server games and other devils magic

>>377696484
>wc3 map mods comes back
fuuuug

>>377706676
>8 player FFA on LAN
>an island map
>only me and an opponent left
>all mines are sucked to the bone, zero resources on map
>I'm informed his army is bigger than mine
>he sends zeppelins over
>he lands
>on the island with my expansion like one screen away from my real base
>swooce right in with my hippogryph riders and snipe his zeppelins
>he's stranded and has to surrender
fun times

>>377707696
That was Azshara not Illidan

>he doomed them by joining the legion
Yes, in BC. After they had already been saved (see: shattered sun offensive) but then he betrayed Illidan in favor or Kil'Jameme

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> 10 years later, people are still salty about draenei

>>377700321
>should i pirate and play wc3 campaign it looks fun as fuck
Honestly I'm getting tempted to too right now. It's been a few years since I last played it. I never beat the final TFT UD mission

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>>377699480
I actually got a boner when he turned her into a banshee

weird experience for a 13 year old, especially because I found the situation fucked up

>>377696025

Trying way too fucking hard to fit in. Kill yourself.

>>377708352
Would have been interesting having a genuinely ugly race on the Alliance for a change. Oh well. Missed opportunity right there.

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>>377708352
Damn right I am.

>>377700669

>DotA 2 sucks shit now
>DotA is old and clunky

Just can't win.

>>377708668
Draenei are one of the only things truly original in the Warcraft settings. You don't often find races of nice demons in fiction, or at least you didn't before D&D made thieflings playable

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>>377708668
>>377708352
>>377708676
I still think it's stupid for advanced race to regress and start practicing shamanism with out actually regressing and I think making the broken the new alliance race who could be paladins as well as shamans makes more sense.

>>377708762
>my favourite heroes nerfed through the floor
>latest patch comes out
>no changes to said heroes
At least I had an excuse to quit. The worst one is Brood, she used to be such a fun hero to roflstomp pubs with but in her current state she's basically unplayable.

>>377708990
That wasn't even the worst part of how TBC shat all over the lore of the game desu.

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>>377708985
I still prefer Broken over Draenei even without factoring in the retcons and will even acknowledge that the forgotten are simply too ugly to be playable.

>>377708236
he doomed them by leaving the alliance, illidan was working for kiljaden, speaking of whom would have destroyed azeroth with the eye of sergeras

>>377709661
>the forgotten are simply too ugly to be playable.
Didn't stop people from playing UD rogues.

>>377709259
What was the worst offense in your opinion?

>>377709707
Considering how well the tolerant alliance was treating them, I'm not surprised.

>destroyed Azeroth
Destroyed Northrend you mean.

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>>377709776
The Undead get picked because of goth/emo kids and edgelords.

>>377710102
Fuck you, I just wanna be a rotten smelly piece of shit so I can feel immersed.

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JUST

>>377709816
Probably one of the sudden addition of floating glyphs and those half-bird creatures as 80% of the outland npcs, turning 3/4 of outland into forests and swamps, or the beginning of the trend of turning each well known and as of yet unused WC3 character into a raid boss one by one with no regard to their true allegiances.

>>377709707
Illidan wasn't even working for Kil'Jaeden till after he, Kael and fishsnek gril got to Outland.

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>>377710009
Destroying Northrend would also destroy azeroth, what the burning legion wanted to do, remember?

Its justified, the punishment for betreyal is death, kael was set up by the naga then took the bait and worked for them. He knew they were working for the demon serving illidan, the night elves told him what would happen with the eye of sergaras. The naga could have chased the undead to his position. And last thing, he meets them at a recently destroyed boatyard and this race of seapeople just happen to have two transport ships with them who they just give away? Come on...

>>377710335
wrong, he explains how he met him in a cutscene back in kalimdor and how he promised him power and bla bla bla - because that worked so well the first time

>>377710102
>The Undead get picked because of goth/emo kids and edgelords.
No, the undead get picked because lich skeletal rush motherfuckers

>>377710305
So did Varian just die or has he turned into some fancy boss demon?

>>377710102
>Undead get picked because of wotf and wotf.
ftfy

>>377710482
he exploded

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>>377710345
Good thing our boi The Lich Kang was there to stop big bad Illidan, what a swell dude he was.

Yes, Kael should have let his people starve and die you're right. HMFY!

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>>377710234
And I just wanted to see if they would buck the trend of undead=evil in their game, which they sort of did with minor characters here and there. Still, it was fun having a playable undead race

>>377710693
he should have just taught them to meditate n shiet, look at jaina's high elves

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>>377710528
Kek, pic unrelated

>>377710667
That's not a reason to NOT turn into a demon

But blizz did kinda back down on some juicy MUH CORRUPTION potential in Legion

>>377710482
might be legions last boss

>>377711313
probably because there was already so much corruption in wow that it become a meme

although corruption is kinda the legion and the void lords whole thing

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>>377711526
>(((void lords)))

>>377711624
what the matter anon? you don't like the retcon?

>>377711624
downrun

>>377710345

Pretty certain Kael knew he was getting set up from the start. But what other option did he have? His entire story is about the struggle to save his people.

>>377712929
hold on until reinforcments arrive, that island was a great defencive position, you could totaly beat that mission without the naga if you are not a filthy casual

>>377700321
I've started going through it again recently, it's a great story and a great game

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>>377707540
>alpha/beta icons
alpha only, dota 2 was practically finished when the beta came out

>>377713340

There was no reinforcements. Garithos would have abandoned them all to die.

>>377700321
play modern games made for people like you

>>377713606
except he comes back with an army and sees kael and the naga, play the campaign again and look at it from Garithos's prespective

he needed the reinforcements for the front line, why would he leave kael to die and let himself get flanked?

>>377713606
If that\s true how did Kaelthas take half the elves and the rest still maaged to survive up there

>>377713461
>you will never experience that feelerino of early beta again

>>377713746
i already do though

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>>377713859
>feelerino
>feeling nostalgia for a 2013 game

this is what /v/ is now

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>>377714005
It's inevitable retard, games have always had a short shelf life when it comes to relevancy to the general public.

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>>377714005
>implying dota 2 wasn't a 2011 game
>implying I can't have some nostalgia for when my friend circle had more than two people in it
>implying vargposting isn't shit

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>>377714229
>when my friend circle had more than two people in it

oh, i remember that as well

>>377708990

I think the biggest issue with shamans is that the term name "shaman" itself sounds dated and primitive in comparison to other classes.

There's no reason why Shamans can't be part of modern technology and practices in Warcraft lore and it's the reason why Goblin shamans exists because they like the explosive and electrical nature Shamanism brings.

>>377713859
>hanging in twitch chat and trying a bunch of different keys, then installing, then realising mobas are shit then uninstalling
the first few internationals were hype i guess
>>377714005
beta was like 2011

>>377714961
I must humbly disagree, but seeing as I thought the lore behind Tauren paladins was pretty cool and justified their addition to the race I don't think I have much room to talk.

>>377715389
>implying I didn't get in from acceptance mail or whatever the fuck the official method was

>>377714961
The reason behind goblin shamans is actually brilliant.
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Ask_CDev (search "goblin shaman")

>>377707540
alpha graphics are super comfy. nu doto 2 is way too shiny and pompous. also greasy mexican storm spirit is best design ever.

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>Wacraft 3 thread
>can never talk about favourite tactics, ladderclimbing, and memorable matches because /v/ is full of casual cucks who only played custom and campaign

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>>377718365
>there are people on /v/ who actually played multiplayer

>>377713461
Bane?

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>>377718365
>muh multiplayer
>muh esports

>>377701729
5 commands or kick

>>377718738
Absolutely this!

>>377718738
>esports bogeyman

>>377707063
i agree server browser was shit