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Live letter today, why ded?
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whats with the nonstop shilling? literally a thread archived maybe 10 minutes ago and theres been a XIV thread every single time I go on /v/. which is pretty often. SE ramping up marketing with Stormblood around the corner?
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bad game bad gramphic :D
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>>377688386
It's just because of people trying to avoid the /vg/ thread since it's the worst place possible to talk about the game. The reason there are so many so often is because the /v/ threads are getting more and more popular and people don't want to wait for the one or two threads that get made daily so now they just push another out as soon as the previous goes down.
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Why do SB zones look so boring? Just generic steppes and prairies and a weeb town.

Where's fantasy? Where's fucking magic?
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>>377688386
Its almost like an expansion is coming out or something, weird right.

>>377688478
Also this, /vg/s thread is some of the most cancer ridden shit on 4chan. /v/ talks about the game and shitposts. /vg/ are grown men flirting with each other and spamming their shitty characters in every post, its hot garbage.
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What did I say about stop making thread until the liveletter huh you little shits?
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>>377688540
The fantasy and magic is gone thus the name of the series
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>>377688616
Woah... really makes you think
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>>377688386
this happened when heavensward was about to pop too
Even though the content of these threads FF14 are pretty much Reddit without upvotes, it's the """best""" place to discuss this game since everyone is to beta to take a /vg/ thread away from emotional ERPers.
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>We got Garo and Youkai Watch crossovers, yet Nier is a SE property and this will never happen
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Seven hours till the real shitposting begins, the ping shit will be a distant memory by then
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>>377688680
>pingshit + job changes shitposting will become meltdown of the century
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This is how PLL will go
>So we changed this skill
>As for the rest, play the game to find out!
>Next job!

Screencap this
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>>377688606
>you little shits?
What do you have against lalas?
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>>377688780
They already showed a lot for BLM and that's only prestream broadcast.
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>>377688791
YoshiP plays Lala, anon.
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Question for the Ultrosfags. If NeoGAF's FC <GAF> is a dead FC, how the hell did it became weekly rank #1 on Ultros? What's so great about a hivemind of a FC full of SJW cucks?
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Ffxiv is for fags and you guys are big homo men.
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>>377688993
Why do you care so much
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>>377688658
>pretentious pseudo-philosophical mash and dodge game that only sold thanks to its protagonist's ass

I don't want to hear about this overrated shit ever again.
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>they will never fix Limsa Lominsa so you can see players in the Aetheryte plaza from the upper decks
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who odin here
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>>377688993
because neogaf is an organized, moderated community representing a huge name in gaming communities. they have the manpower and the leadership to get things done. Gaf is a strong presence in literally any game that it has a presence on. popularity is power in MMOs, in that you can get a bunch of people funneling you or your guild.
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>>377688658
>garo event
>shows about killing monsters the anime anyway, I never seen the live action
>would make sense to grind FATEs for once
>it's a fucking PvP event
It's good for the pvp crowd, but damn. I was going to be happy grinding fates for once.
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>>377689086
They're shit and a bunch of tranny loving white knights. And nobody from <GAF> have the balls to leave their safe space to reason why they're shit and a bunch of SJW cucks.
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>>377689137
>they will never give us musketeer.
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>>377689294
Yeah but why do you care so much
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>>377688658
>"It takes 15 months to plan and implement a cross-event and takes a considerable amount of resources and legal fees due to licensing." - Yoshi
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>>377689137
Of course not.
Anything in this game that isn't fundamentally broken will never be fixed because the skeleton crew handling the game's development are desperately scrambling to keep up with the content production schedule they've established for themselves. SE could hire on more staff, but fie and forefend they spend a single cent more than they need to, when the game and cash shop are printing hundreds of thousands of dollars a day.
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>>377689240
Huge name? Manpower? Strong presence? That's a load a bullshit. That doesn't explain why you SJWs keep pulling ranked enemies early. Are you proud of pulling early?
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>>377689294
doesn't matter. GAFers are cohesive and strictly organized and actually work together as a community. this along with the sheer numbers alone ensures they will succeed in any MMO they make a presence in. Better watch out for the GAFer Star Citizen corp, it's going to fuck shit up and ruin a lot of days
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>>377689137
>>377689418
The female highlanders STILL have their dagger placement bugged after all these years. They sit way too fucking high near their ribs instead of on their waists.
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>>377688386
14 fags not having anything to do so they make threads in hopes of people being the same as them.
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>>377688658
what are we gunna do in it? pretend that we destroyed humanity and we're robots?
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>>377689324
The biggest crime.
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>>377689572
>20 posters in 35 posts
Is it so difficult for you to accept that people just like playing the game?
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>>377689749
More like enjoy bitching about the game and hoping SB kills SE because they keep ruining shit
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>>377689240
>>377689517
And you're proud of all this bullshit?
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>>377689816
Where are you getting this bullshit from? People are making threads and discussing the game because they want to die?
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>>377689885
Yes and anyone who tells you otherwise are in denial.
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I really wonder how they're pulling off the Ivalice themed raid. Is it a location of the FF XIV world, or is it one of its mirror worlds? Will there be Ivalice-style moogles, bangaa and viera?
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>>377689823
nothing wrong with having pride in your community. especially if that community is successful. why does it get you so mad? that a bunch of "SJWs" are better, more organized than you?
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>Less than a month to expansion
>>377689890
Why isn't this a minion yet?
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>>377690028

it is if you are east coast ninja
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>>377690017
>>377689517
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Isn't it in six hours? I'm gonna go take a nap.
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>>377689263
the live action is pretty good too
at least the first one
you should try it
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>>377690101
ill assume what i said was true than, you're just upset that a group of people you hate irrationally are more successful in their endeavors than you ever will be in yours.
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>>377690241
I didn't even participate in the discussion, I'm just pointing out you can't write.
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>>377689263
Live show is also about killing monsters/demons. But it does have an element of Makai Knights fighting each other over some quarrel.
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>>377690017
Answer me this. Is GAF proud of pulling elite enemies early without everyone getting a chance? Is that part of the 'successful' and 'organized' community? Because they're not. They're the biggest SJW assclowns and shitters in Ultros. Deal with it.
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>>377690201
>>377690297
Sounds good, I'll give it a go.
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>>377690283
its the internet. no one is grading papers here except for autistic people and point out simple grammar "mistakes" like purposeful lack of capitalization impresses no one. don't be so stuck up
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>>377690381
im sure they're proud theyre the most successful FC on their server. seeing how butthurt its making you, personally, makes me very proud for them
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>>377690419
Just keep in mind, first season had a minuscule budget. But they absolutely made the most of it.
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>>377690430
No one would point it out if it was a single mistake. The problem is in the fact that you're purposely writing like a retarded baby even though everyone else properly capitalizes their sentences.
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>>377690501
You didn't answer my question you delusional smug GAFfot.
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>>377690553
*yawn* autism/10. last reply ull get from me desu, sweetie
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>>377690553
Especially if that retarded baby is a delusional shit sniffing smug from GAF.
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>>377690082
or a west coast ninja for 3 years
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>>377690603
to be honest friend, it has nothing to do with pride and everything to do with just playing the game and clearing the content with your friends. ranks, server firsts, all of that stuff, its just icing on the cake compared to the fun you're having with your community. just imagine, all of these GAFers having fun and enjoying the game, being the best FC on their server, they don't even spare a single thought towards the possibility that there are tiny manbabies who cry in jealousy about GAFs success anonymously on 4chan.
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>>377690603
why is the thought of this particular group of players enough to make you this angry
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>>377690785
That's not an answer. That's just you being a fart sniffing smug from GAF. Now answer my fucking question, in simple sentences. Is GAF proud of pulling elite enemies early without everyone getting a chance? How does it feel to be the assclowns and shitters of Ultros?
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>>377691078

>being this bitter and jealous
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>>377691078
i wouldn't know how it feels or what GAF is proud of, but I'm certain that the GAFer community is having a lot of fun playing the game and clearing content, regardless of any criticisms
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>>377691078
Why do you care so much?
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>>377691078
Not that guy and not on Ultros but me and my FC pull early and laugh when people bitch about it. If you want to do hunts form a hunting party and help spawn/locate them. If you aren't in the zone when its found you don't deserve to bitch, you aren't entitled to fucking charity seals you lazy stooge and you're lucky people even call it out for you to TP there and beg for scraps. Do content if you want the rewards.
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>>377690785
Not that guy, but I clearly remember GAF leaving a sour taste in people's mouths back when Hunts were first released and they swarmed every fucking hunt that spawned without ever waiting or being considerate of anyone else.
"GAF'D" was a common battlecry across zone shout to indicate that, rather than waiting for the established pull time that everyone else in the zone agreed to wait on like civilized individuals, a group of Gaffers decided to be fucking cunts instead.

This continued on for months, and Hunts were ruined for people for quite a while thanks to GAF being impatient fucksticks. Which is probably why there's a higher concentration of Ultros vets that can't stand them. They'll be forever known as "Those faggots that kept ruining my fun", even if this doesn't happen anymore because nobody gives a fuck about hunts.
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Quick i'm broke as fuck, how do i obtain $55 for SB and sub. I have 2 dollars here are my ideas
>lemonade stand
>invest in stocks
>buy a box of condoms and whore my asshole out
>draw over the 1 and make it 20 on my bills and hope nobody notices
I'm open to ideas people
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>>377691240
>being a cry baby over hunts
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>>377691473
go for the 3rd option
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>>377691473
Butt
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>>377691473
check /biz/. altcoins are on the rise. there are people who have invested less than 1000 dollars and have come out with 20000+
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>>377689324
The hell are you talking about, we have MCHs
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>>377691473
EE-ARE-PEE
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>>377691473
Neetbux
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>>377691473

Jesus Christ, you are such a pathetic little tool. You do this every other thread at least, with the same FUG every time.

Go get a goddamn job you lazy piece of shit. And don't give us that
>"B-but I already worked and I worked 80 hours a week and I hated it and I don't want to do it again it's just no for me okay?"

Cry more faggot. You want things, you work for them.
And so I repeat, Go get a goddamn job.
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>>377691605
>altcoins
You might as well whore yourself, less risk
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>>377691473
Get a part time job.
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>>377691473
feels great living in a welfare nation so I have all the neetbux I need for video games
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>>377691091
>>377691012

t. 16 year old that just got out of english 101 and thinks typing properly on the internet matters
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>>377691473
ask your parents for a loan? just tell them you're struggling a bit, need extra cash to pay something off or better yet, get food?
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>>377692087
I WANT TO SUBMIT TO THE FLAT QUEEN OF SHADOWS
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Why are the maelstorm such shitters? We lose every single shatter match. I feel like i'm playing horde again i always pick the downy faction wtf
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>>377692750
go freelance then and hope for the best?
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>>377692750
It's your fault for not joining the canon WoL GC
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Roughly how many hours of PotD do you think it will take to get from lvl 45 to 60?
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>>377693001
implying
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Is it worth getting awareness as a WAR?

Levelling up gladiator is so damn boring
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>>377692750
If you're on Chaos try doing shatter during the late afternoon/early evening. Mael tends to be competent during that time. Any later and it turns into a premades shitshow
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I think the asian theme somehow won't fit in the game despite it being made by asians.
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>>377693208
Yes because it combos well with Raw Intuition.
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>>377693293
Wait is PvP cross server matchmaking or not? I just assumed it was.
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WAR is going to come out on top again.
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>>377692750
I feel you anon. Fucking retards refuse to hit the ice everytime. Thank god I got my 200th win today
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>>377690381
Why wouldn't you be proud of pulling hunts early and upsetting the entire server?
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>>377693456
Yes? It does even show what server people are from in the results after all
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*blocks your path*
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>>377688328
I just found out that Y'shtola's blind and she's slowly killing herself by using the aether to see.
I honestly thought her different eye color was just that.
So how long till she dies? But didn't she also said that she has increased aether senses or is that because she's blind?
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>Live letter will show BLM changes
>Smn just gets Ruin IV

Smns ready to be put back in the cuckshed
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>>377694065
They won't kill her since she's locked to the Alexander storyline now
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>>377691473
Third choice is best choice.
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>>377691240
GAF'd was literally a meme that ZR started yelling after every single Hunt regardless of who pulled or killed it or what

Hunts were never ruined, from day one people were farming them fine; the only people who ever missed out on hunts were lazy cunts who didn't join an LS and bitched that their 90 second late FC rebroadcasts made them miss hunts.

Hunts have always been fucking welfare filler content anyway.
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>>377694065
she sees the world purely aetherically (i.e no colour vision, basically a bat sonic vision but with aether)
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>>377691605
/biz/ is a playground for rich anons who lead naive poorfags into high-risk, low-reward ventures for cheap entertainment.

That's the last place I'd look at in regards to money.
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>>377694128
They won't kill her because they have no balls to upset the status quo.
Same reason Gosetsu is probably dead; he's the last character to show up.
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>>377694128
But that's not really a limiting factor. They've already said that you do content as if it you're playing during when the patch its released, not where the current MSQ is.

It's how they hand wave the 50 CUL quest if you do it just after finishing 2.55.
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>>377694252
this. they don't care if you're someone playing catch up with the game, if you aren't around during a content's initial release, your character is out of sync with the current timeline
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>>377694065
never because shes a popular character, theyll just handwave it with lolallagantech or something and everythings fine again
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>>377689890
This rabbit triggers me anon, I'm glad I don't see him anymore.
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I really hope they change shit up big-time tomorrow. Now that I've started playing SCH, I don't see the point in playing any other job. This is just too good.

I vastly prefer tanking to healing, and would rather kill myself than DPS but it seems like in XIV, Healers set the pace unlike most games where the tank does. The DPS I bring when I play SCH competently makes things go so much faster than when I play WAR or DRK with the average healer.
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>>377694752
sch can no longer cross class cleric stance pls enjoy
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>>377694915
That will just make me broil more
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>>377694752
Tomorrow? The live letter is today.
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What class do you guys predict to be the strongest in SB? My money is on BLM.
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>New EU servers
>Free transfers
>Exp bonuses for leaving servers
Maybe I can finally transfer off shitty baguette Moogle without paying Jew Enix for it. Hopefully it will be more worth it to transfer to what is essentially a low pop server than staying on that crappy "SALUT! o/" server.
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>>377694915
>mfw
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>>377695037
What does o/ even mean? I see it all the time
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>>377695037
Duty Finder will still pick players from every EU world so not sure what you're winning there
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>>377695106
heil
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>>377695106
it's the head of a person with their arm being held up to indicate a wave
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>>377695051
I don't play healer at all, but just started enjoying using WHM in 4 man content.

What does this graph mean?
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>>377695106
It's a guy holding his hand up.
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how long until live letter?
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>>377695184
Healers stand with a thumb up their ass doing nothing even in the easiest fight in all of this expansion.
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>>377694752
you are aware that both WHM and AST pull way higher damage numbers in 4 man content right?

and there's no pace to set in 8 mans
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>>377695204
4hours15m it's at 9am pst
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>>377695106
SIEG HEIL

Also when am I going to find out when my main is ruined
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>>377695285
That's real boring, I have fun going to Cleric and burning down the mobs faster. When I have a proper tank, he needs little care.
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>>377695138
Not seeing constant fucking French yell spam for FCs. Not having everyone in Idleshire talk in god damn french. Not being embarrassed by going to the PF and having the others see "Moogle" next to my name.

Plus the exp bonus.
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>If players are able to transfer characters without problems after these changes, we will consider removing the gil limit on character transfers.

JUST
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>>377695323
4 hours
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reminder that Yshtola will die hours into Stormblood.
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In order to fix the glitch of players running in place, the game is now played in deterministic lockstep
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>>377688386
there's an expansion coming out in under a month you moutbreather

>why are videogames being discussed on a videogame board?
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>>377688540
None of the interesting shit of HW like Azyz Lla was shown before release guy

They're saving the best shit for when we actually get there
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>>377695518
I want Thancred and Yshtola to die, cat's already on a time limit so fuck it, and Thancred had his run and his time has passed.
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>>377695037
Just a heads up, the EU RP community considers abandoning Balmung for one of those new servers
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Why do MMOs refuse to let mobs give exp anymore ?

>lvl 40 mobs give me 300 exp when i need 350 000 to lel up exp

Are they just scared of bots ?
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>>377695670
yes.
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>>377688658
>This won't happen
>I won't get a Drakengard crossover either
>Or a Nier 1 crossover event

>No comfy as fuck Brother!Nier outfit for my Midlander
>No Kaine outfit
>No Roe's in Papa!Nier gear
>No Arioch or Caim outfits
>No Zero, One, or the other intoners outfits.

Gay. I really want a One outfit.
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>>377695670
Grinding mobs in no game has ever been fun. Also yes.
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>>377692750
maelstrom used to run the world on Primal before Freelancer became a thing

now mael is lucky to win 1 match a night
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>>377695663
What so they can double weave cocks?
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>>377693456
all instanced shit is cross server
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>>377695663
Oh fuck no. I'd rather stay with the french than the roleplayers.
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>>377694065
>I just found out

they explained this in the story months ago

pretty explicitly
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>>377694128
>>377694065
Yshtola wont die simply because she's the mascot of xiv now

She's in fucking Dissidia
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>>377695863
>The stupid faggot cat is the mascot
>Not based Yda, Thancred, or Gaius
It's a crime.
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Just give me 2B hair.
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>>377694065
They will find a cure in doma or something
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Is there any chance they might change some of the netcode for Stormblood to make the game feel more responsive?
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>>377695897
>Yda
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>>377695897
>not Louisoix for Cosmos and Nael for Chaos
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>>377696024
FUCK YOU
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>>377695807
Lich is an option. They probably have almost every house free.
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>>377696074
Gaius has a better chance of getting in than Nael.
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>>377695898
I'd rather they give us her ass
I'm tired of my bikini tank c@ being flat as a fucking board
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>>377695943
About 2 years after a JP complains about it on the JP forum
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>>377695897
>Any Scions
>based
lol
>Gaius
Now we're getting somewhere.
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>>377696189
kys Empire shitter
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>>377688328
I pay 100$ a week to play this gem
Best game ever
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>>377695575
>None of the interesting shit of HW like Azyz Lla was shown before release guy
Factually wrong. Some sweeping shots of Azys Lla are included in the Tour of the North trailer, including a shot of the Warring Triad statues on the Flagship. While not by name, the floating continent was also teased even before that trailer in one of the presentations.

If they aren't showing something they probably don't have anything to show.
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>>377696261
same
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>>377696230
Reminder imperial girls make for better waifus than eorzean slags
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>actually enjoy playing the game and like it
>/vg/ threads are autistic ERP inner circle jerking
>/v/ threads just constantly shit on it, say it's the worst thing ever, everything is absolutely terrible and awful
>reddit is reddit

jesus is there anywhere you can talk about the game
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>>377696479
>imperial girls
like who?
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>>377695596
>Thancred and Yshtola
Every time they show up it's just a reminder that the game really has no idea what to do with the Scions as a group.

For a bunch of people we're forced to carry through the story for several years now, they are amazingly useless. They can't fight Primals, or Ascians, and only seem to do okay against Garlean henchment because the devs can't be arsed giving the WoL more animations than *unsheathes*, *nods*

I like individual characters in the group, and it's nice that Yugiri and Not!Yda are getting their own development separate from the group but... what do you do with the Scions? Kill them all again, but have it actually stick this time? Throw them into sidequests, against threats they could actually assist with? Ditch them and hope nobody remembers?
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>>377696518
>Livia joined the army and killed shitloads of people so she could rise in ranks and fuck her adopted father Gaius
>Eula loved her brother so much she went crazy when he died, so she killed his fiancee and their father so she could live as him
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Sup bros, who is ready to spam the chat to spread the word of Ala Mhigo's liberation?! FOR ALA MHIGO!
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>>377696631
>Throw them into sidequests

It's happening already with the Triad and Alex. This is the best they could do with them.
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>>377688328
What are the 3 most played dps?
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>>377696745
>This is the best they could do with them.
And they barely do anything there. Which is very sad.
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>>377696801
What exactly do you want them to do? Fight the primal with you? That's what you are 7 other people are there for.

If they were in the fight people would just bitch they're stealing the spotlight like how Thancred fought off the WoDs while you drew your weapon and noded.
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>3 hours left
Time to go take a quick nap
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>>377696886
4
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>>377696710
reminder that we will sacrifice ala mhigo to save doma please look forward to it
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>>377696104
That's actually their second pick choice (if we get the transfer bonus) since there's already a small RP community here. Been to one of their events once, was pretty _fun
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>>377696518
Also technically Lucia still counts
Even though she defected, it is the result of her upbringing as a pure imperial waifu that made her follow Aymeric, for better or worse
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>>377696794
MNK, BRD and DRG?
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>60+ minute que time for shatter
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
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>>377696710
rip ilberd. ;-;7
you deserved better than this
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>>377697023
>DRG
Hardly.
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>>377697106
>have to liberate Ala Mhigo because of his chimpout

He can rot in hell
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>>377696794
Certainly not MCH. Thank fuck for that. Stay the fuck away from my job if you can't use play it.
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>>377695037
>tfw no free transfer for transferring out from Gilgamesh or Balmung into another data center
Aether was a mistake
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>>377697212
I'd use that face if the cheek markings where a bit longer like the suncat version.
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6 hours boiiis. Thank goodness it's directly translated to english this time
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>>377697281
it's less than 3 hours retard
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>>377697223

nobody plays it cause it's fuckin boring and has dogshit aesthetics, not sure how they managed to ruin a job based on guns

even if one is in the party i still forget they exist because all of their skills are invisible
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>>377697281
3 hours.
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>>377696858
>What exactly do you want them to do? Fight the primal with you?
Be useful and interesting characters who are capable of holding a story.

The game has relatively endearing characters, so they know how to do it. But the Scions, even in the sidequests, kind of fail at this. Mostly because their entire shtick is to vomit bland exposition at you, say they can help (off-screen, but whatever) and then we never really get to see them as actual characters. The most character we get from them (which isn't even that much) is if you chat to them between cutscenes.

The last thing the Scions need is to be in the spotlight more. They need to be better written. Yda and Yugiri MIGHT escape that with Stormblood, but we don't know, and that still leaves the problem of the rest of them.
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>>377697306
It's 3h41m.
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>>377697106
>FWOOSH
dont worry bro, I'll always be with you
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>>377697281
>6 hours
More like 3 and a half hour.
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>>377697306
Wasn't it 7pm BST?
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>>377697158
>unkill nanamo so Raubarb can forgive him and help fight in ala mihgo
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>>377697337
>and then we never really get to see them as actual characters.

I feel like this is more of a problem because the games lacks, for lack of a better word, slice of life sidequests. We're only dealing with the Scions when we need to deal with a problem. We never get to hang out with them just to do so, like Gerolt and the Kettle sidequest. Even out little fight with Hoary and the elf gave them more character than what we've gotten with any of the archons.
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>get home from work
>live letter will start in less than 30 minutes
Yay.
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>>377697316
>nobody plays it cause it's fuckin boring and has dogshit aesthetics, not sure how they managed to ruin a job based on guns
t. Buttblasted Bard.

Sorry not sorry.
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>>377696369
You could also see the egg-shaped spaceport when they shilled for their new twintania mount.
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>>377697427
5PM BST
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>>377694068
Thank God I switched back to my DRG in time.
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>>377697480
>more cutscene quests
No thanks
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>>377697108
i guess all the bad dragoons switched to mnk or something
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>>377697480
Having a Scion equivalent of the Moogle deliveryman quests might be neat. Get to just hang out with them.

I get why they don't do it while the Scions are the 'main characters', if one dies then it might shut you out of a quest, but for me at least that's all the more reason to move them into the background.

Having more stuff like the Hoary fight would be nice too, if they were to stay in the main story, but I'm betting that would just piss off the "WHY DO WE HAVE SO MANY QUESTS BETWEEN EXPANSIONS" crowd even more.
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>>377697735
Most give up after the xth aoe indicator and see how much longer other classes stay alive.
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>>377697767
>I'm betting that would just piss off the WHY DO WE HAVE SO MANY QUESTS BETWEEN EXPANSIONS" crowd even more.
It's already happening here
>>377697714
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>>377697316
>even if one is in the party i still forget they exist because all of their skills are invisible
subtlety is one of the nice things with machinists, the mch animations also look great
i wish i could still play mch but the server relocation messed me up
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>arrive in Azys Lla
>huge ass map
>too bad you can't fly because AETHER CURRENTS LMAO XDD

I'm so fucking pissed right now, I've endured sea of clouds and the idyllshire but this has by far the worst offender. Not to mention the goddamn quests has you fucking running back and forth to places you've been.
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>>377696794
>>377697108
>>377697023
>>377697223

It's SMN, DRG and NIN.

SMN cheats by being a freebie for SCH players though and by inheriting a lot of previous BLM mains fed up with turreting and Enochian. The other two have both the edgy/weeb factor AND being highly valued for endgame content, as well as DRG being the poster job for Heavensward and Ninja still having some lingering "new job" novelty.
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>>377697882
the MSQ gives you all the Aether points in azys lla, just relax my dude.
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>>377695817
>HURRR LITERALLY EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD HAS PLAYED XIV DURRRR

That's how you sound right now.
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>>377697814
>It's already happening here
And that's probably why the poor Scions will remain pretty useless, but kind of interesting characters maybe sort of.
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>>377697882
>this has by far the worst offender.

It's not though. There are no aether currents to track down, you just do the main story and fly to the ARF. The biggest problem is Azyz Lla is that unless you're there for adamantite ore the map is useless.
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>>377697942

everyone important has
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>>377697814
Gee I fucking wonder why in this GAME people are so opposed to watching MOVIES that have nothing to do with the GAME about literal whos.

You can make your viewer or player or reader care about a character within seconds if you really try. Just adding more runtime to NOT GAME about these asshats will not change much.
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>>377697937
I hardly see any SMN and DRG players running around in the dungeon or raid finder.
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>>377697882

You don't deserve this game you entitled fucking pissbaby. Kill yourself. Azys Lla is the best area in the game.
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>>377698047
>You can make your viewer or player or reader care about a character within seconds if you really try.

do you actually know any examples or are you just trying to be in the right?
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>>377689097
Don't even try to talk about gameplay while playing FF14
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>>377698069

>Azys Lla is the best area in the game.

it's also has the most disgusting amount of untapped potential of any zone in any mmo

they spent all this time designing some gigantic allagan fortress and did jack shit with it
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I have a level 60 fishing and no other gatherer jobs.

My gil is a whooping 360k. How do I make money before Stormblood? From time to time I sell that cooking ingredient that you can buy for 5000 coins.
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>>377698163
Why do you play FF14 if you dislike the gameplay? Do you actually play and pay for an mmo that only has a nice-ish story?
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>>377698056

Maybe try actually looking at the party list next time then. It's even common to get 2 SMNs in 4 man content, as they are the most efficient job in most dungeons. They're somewhat less prevalent in hardcore content, but in return you get more DRGs than you can fit in a generously sized aoe circle.
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Flamethrower will be toggled skill that costs MP.
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>>377698167
In any other MMO Warring Triad would've been a raid and the whole area would've been a zone for levelcapped people to farm something or maybe even PVP in some allagan arena or some shit. Instead there's literally no reason to come there unless you're minin' some of those blue ore.

RIP Prey Online.
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>>377698232
I never said that i dislike the gameplay kiddo, way to project hard there.
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>BLM is now babby tier with it's new skills
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>>377698242
I never once got a SMN in my 15 Sohm Al hard runs.
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>>377698298
It was always super easy, just like most of the games classes
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>>377688540
Did you not see the location in a bubble dome underwater?
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>>377698374
Sure did
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>>377698374
He's just complaining for the sake of it, let him boil in his own anger.
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>>377688658
>most weapons are from only 3 sets
You can get so much more out of series notorious for weapon variety. There could be more costumes too. The worst part is we really might get something this half-assed
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>>377698173
Reduce caiman and Thaliak caiman for water clusters. If you have CUL desynth leveled, you can also get bathing suits from ARR big fish, which may or may not fetch a lot of money depending on your server. They tend to sell VERY slowly, so monitor them closely. Or hoard bathing suits in the hopes people buy them up for their catslut avatars when swimming drops.
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>>377698338
>Blocking names.
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I dodge everything in titan extreme/thordan extreme/zurvan extreme and I have 200+ ping

Is this bitching a meme?
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>>377698895
>Or hoard bathing suits in the hopes people buy them up for their catslut avatars when swimming drops
Don't you think one of the first quest lines will give you one?
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>>377698969
I would hope that the ARR big fish bathing suits would still be valuable in some capacity, but I could see that. Anything to make fishing worthless.
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>>377698969
next moonlight faire will have some I'm guessing. Shame they don't let you buy old event outfits during the events thanks to mogstation.
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why do people hate male characters so much?
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>>377698968
Of course it is, unless you go above 300 or some shit people shouldn't complain, this isn't a frameperfect fighting game, it's forgiving as fuck
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>>377697316
>not noticing the giant fucking richochet animation along with the screeching blaring fucking sound effect
>not noticing wildfire explosions

Other than that tho yeh they're pretty invisible I suppose.
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>>377698968
Why is it so hard for you people to understand that lower ping is better? They could have given almost everyone a lower ping than they have now but they decided not to. We just want the best game possible and having high ping makes it less enjoyable to play.
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>>377699184
I really really like male characters. Unless they're bad and a c@
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>>377699279
Works for me :^)
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Why is playing gladiator so fucking boring holy shit

>You can stun people by smashing their face in with your shield which is cool
>But there's never a reason to do this as 99% of attacks are just cones you can sidestep out of without losing DPS, and there's no inherent advantage to interrupting an attack like bonus damage for a while or something
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>>377699413

interruping skills actually boosts the limit break bar
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>>377698968
>new server are shit
>j-just deal with it guys!!!!
how about no
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>>377699413
It's good to stun circle aoes or back cones so your melee dps can continue with their positionals. Also a few attacks HAVE to be stunned but that's pretty rare
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>>377699562
Bye then.
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>>377699224
Double weaving is pretty much impossible above like... I wanna say 175 ping on a non nin/monk. And nin is fucking aids on anything above like 90 ping. I play nin on 155 and its not super terrible but it's less fun that it should be ( and less optimal, duh) and I DONT WANNA FUMA MUM I WANNA RAITON REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>377699632
SE is removing double weaving
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>>377699413

Stuns are extremely important in endgame content.

Gladiator/Paladin is the most simple/boring job though. If it's your first and you would rather have something challenging, consider switching to something else.
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>>377699224
But I have to wait like 9 years for cleric stance to come off or else my next action will go off and the game will forget I ever pressed cleric stance. It wasn't like that before so the server became worse after the move and that's shitty
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>get bored
>decied to do arr relic quest
>i finished the fates in a few minutes because of the improved droprates
>now I gotta do the books
Are they the shittiest part of it or will it become worse?
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>>377699836
I think light is the worst step for ARR relic now. Books aren't bad now that it's only 3 mobs per book instead of 10 and the book fates tend to spawn more often (taken can go to hell though). Being able to run the dungeons unsynced is a huge time saver.
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>>377699632
Raiton has nothing to do with ping

Raiton always clips GCD
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>>377699595
>stun something
>everyone moves out anyway
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>>377699836
light grind can be a bit more monotonous but I personally hate books the most because they require you to do specific fates. Any content that requires specific fates is cancerous because there is no way to force the one you need to spawn. Your mileage may vary.
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>>377699959
The light can be done in 2 hours. None of the original relic is bad anymore.
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>>377699962
>this is what pinglets actually believe
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>>377699959
I tried Siren dungeon unsynched and the bird still killed me over and over again.
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>>377699836
Yes.

>>377699959
Hell no. It takes like 3 hours to finish it without bonus.
And you can make a group and just have everyone clear 25% of them while the rest just /follows and watches netflix.
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>>377699413
Well I mean, why not stun them as their animation is finishing? You've basically just added 3-6 seconds to their cast bar.
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>>377700056
did you kill her babies?
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>>377700056
you just kill the boss, don't be a helpless shitter
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Is Stormblood going to get rid of the "Do old content to get the next content stuff"
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>>377700215
Probably not.
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>>377700215
Nope and they shouldn't.
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>>377699184
failed males get upset when they see someone's comfortable with their masculinity
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>>377700215
No.
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>>377700259
It's 4.0, I don't want to be made to run Satasha yet again.
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What's the best class story and why is it the rogue's guild?
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>>377699632
>Be 90-110 ping
>Still double weave properly with very few clips
You guys are acting like fucking pinoys connecting to a EU server
bobo
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>>377700339
It had a lot more care put into it since it was added between patches.
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>>377700339
Rogue or gladiator desu
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>short clip from yesterday
>BLM get a teleport to ley lines skill
>triple cast which removes casting time for the next three spells
>enochian on a 30sec cd
>probably even more stuff
how can other jobs even compare?
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>>377696794
BRD, DRG and BLM.
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>>377688386
I'm pretty sure Square have legit shills as moderators ensuring this /vg/ stuff isn't deleted.
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>>377699962
explain why fuma is used instead of raiton at high level play then, even by japs who get single digit ping
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>>377700574
>Why does the 2nd most popular mmo in history have frequent threads?
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>>377700038
Because it's correct and how all damaging ninjutsu work.

All the damaging ninjutsu have identical cast times based on their mudra count.

Fuma is always 2.0 seconds to use
Raiton and Katon are always 2.5 seconds to use

Literally always been like this
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>>377700594
meant for >>377700038
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tfw the best armor you can equip is also gay as fuck
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>>377700496
>BLM gets a bunch of shit that makes it easier for bads
>WOW AMAZING
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>>377700574
mowt said it's to piss off autists like you :^)
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>>377700612
XIV isn't going to make it to 15 years.
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>>377700496
we're about to find out in like 150 minutes calm down anon
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>>377700215
Nope. Already confirmed that you have to finish HW to do SB. They're just putting RDM and SAM in ARR areas so they aren't locked behind the new areas. You still need SB to access the trainers though.
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>>377695731
God I want A2 to manhandle me
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>>377699632
Good thing that they are just removing mudra and making each skill a separate icon with the same cooldown.

Mudra wasn't fun.
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>>377700135
Wouldn't that be a drop in overall dps though, because anyone who is clearly affected by it would run away anyway.
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>>377700594
Not him but Fuma is used more if you have slashing debuffers on your team since Fuma is a slashing skill where Raiton is it's own thing. It's a 10-potency difference once the debuffs are on the target and Raiton is good too in certain situations like if Foe Requiem and Hypercharge are up.
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Why Warriors get the ugliest mount?
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>>377691473
Geez, cutting it a little close, aren't you anon? There's less than a month left.

You know, if you'd gotten a temp job a month ago, you'd right now have enough for the Collector's Edition, even at minimum wage. Plus a little left over to treat yourself. And you could just quit with no repercussions.

Better hurry though, all the kids are going to take up those slots as they get out of school for the summer.
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>>377700135
if you stun them just as/before the cast bar completes then they'll be stunned but the cast will still go off as usual

not sure what you mean by this
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>people actually, unironically still pay for this shitty MMO every month

The only reason to continue is fucking housing and the fear of letting one go.

I can't wrap my head around the fact that people still pay for this once they hit end game. What the fuck is the point of doing the same content repeatedly for gear that's just going to be replaced with the next update anyway?

FFXIV is the most baffling MMO ever. WoW at least perfected the formula, XIV took steps back and fucked up and made a corridor or platform simulator, and it's almost like they're actively going out of their way to make the game as bland as fucking possible. There's literally nothing cool or interesting about it; even the cutscenes are fucking atrocious, because it's impossible to make your character anything more than a cardboard cutout making emotes in reaction to the things happening around them.

I'm convinced that if this shit didn't have "Final Fantasy" in the title, it would be considered one of the worst MMOs ever made.
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>>377700830
Bears are cool fuck you.

Better than recolored Coeurl.
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>>377700691
We're already on ARR year 4. It will definitely make it to 8 or 10. One or two more expansions after SB. 15 years isn't out of the question. They just need to hold onto a solid userbase throughout the years. XI hardly has anyone playing now but it's still up and running.
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>>377700707
you mean 94min
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>>377700896
You just dont get it.
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>>377700905
Or the lion with the fuckugly dog face. Why the hell didnt they use the coeurl face model on it? What the absolute fuck square.
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>>377700802
Everyone who's not a monkey fucking a coconut will have left the area indicator near-immediately. But by stunning after it finishes it's animation you essentially lock the enemy behind another 3-6 seconds of doing nothing.
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>>377700896
>want to move to EU servers
>can't transfer my house over

Instanced housing areas were a mistake, making an instanced exclusive zone like a mog house in XI would have been better but an outside area.
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>>377700968
No, i don't actually

the letter is at 9am pdt
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>>377701004
Housing areas made sense as guild meeting points but when they released those houses for individuals they fucked up.
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>>377700745
All they need to do to fix mudra is remove it from the universal .75 second startup on all oGCD moves following damage

Boom, suddenly NIN is a fun and snappy class that isn't actively tripping over its own abilities and creating graphs about when Raiton is a damage increase
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post qt catgirls
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>>377700896
>I can't wrap my head around the fact that people still pay for this once they hit end game. What the fuck is the point of doing the same content repeatedly for gear that's just going to be replaced with the next update anyway?

Welcome to MMORPGs.
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>>377701169
you first
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>>377701169
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>>377701004
i kept my house on an alt and i bought a new one the same day i transfered, it's a great time to be alive
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>>377700961
That's because XI actually had content, whereas ARR players play for 1 month after a large patch and then unsubscribe for 4-5 months because there's nothing to do.
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>do damage sharing mechanics
>die because no else does them
Nice game lolbabbs
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>>377701169
no
we must post cute potatoes instead
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>>377700971

You're right, I don't. And you can't explain it to me because you're suffering from Stockholm sydrome. The Final Fantasy theme keeps you paying every month, regardless of the content (which is always shit). The fact that there's "non-casual" content, a rarity in MMOs these days, keeps you throwing your money at these slant-eyed Jews. Despite the fact that said content is accessible to everyone, that it's the same fucking bosses just with more phases.
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>>377701248
If by content, you mean time consuming grinds. Then I guess.
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>>377700830

The bear is way better than that fucked up lion.
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>>377701303
Well, what's wrong with paying 15 bucks a month?
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>>377700896
>WoW atleast perfected the formula
here we go
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What ilvl do you need to complete level 50 hard dungeons unsynched? Can it be done with any class?
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>>377700632
Raiton is 2.0s at worst, Fuma is 1.5s at worst, at worst means that you wait 0.5s after your last GCD skill to start your mudras, which you shouldn't. Fuma is often used instead of Raiton when the enemy has more magic defense than physical and/or when there's a slashing debuff on the enemy.
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>>377701303
I been unsubbed for months, but just came back to prep for expansion. This is literally a case of 'stop having fun.'
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>>377700896
what if i play this game without having played any other ff games before
what does that make me
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>>377701375
If you don't need to queue for more members (because unsync, or full party), you don't need to meet ilvl requirements
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>>377701426
the majority
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>>377700896
>WoW at least perfected the formula
XI was WoW?
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>>377701426
Someone with low standards that is easily amused
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>>377701454
I meant how good does my equipment need to be to survive and finish them.
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>>377701469
If XI was a good MMO it would have reached WoW numbers.
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>>377701507
But what makes WoW good?
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>Sephirot is actually an FF7 boss
Whoa, that's so cool. Is there more homages like those in the game?
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>>377701547
The combat not being shit.
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Your party is not ready for this liveletter.
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>>377699972
Levelling GLA right now and I do this because I'm not sure what can be stunned and what can't half the time. Stun just doesn't seem to interrupt what you think it would when you're levelling.
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>play ARR
>quit once I hit the do x amount of FATEs for your shitty weapon
>always complained that Diabolos is just a fucking dungeon boss

>come back
>Diabolos is the final raid boss of the expansion
Naisu but I FUCKING MISSED EVERYTHING.
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>>377701547
From Vanilla to Wrath it had the perfect balance between casual and hardcore content, multiple PvP outlets that mattered, a varied gearing process that actually took time, a world of lore to build off of where as XIV is just picking out random one off FF references and slapping them in at random, and way better classes even back then. Granted they were imbalanced in Vanilla.
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>>377701503
Hard to tell. As a WAR in full BiS I can pull everything to boss in most of them.
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>>377701573
A few
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>>377701580
You just lost all credibility with that line.
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>>377701684
>From Vanilla to Wrath
vanilla to wrath doesn't exist today
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>>377701724
wow combat >>> ff14 combat
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>>377701724
TWO
POINT
[SPOILER]FOUR
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15 minutes lads
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TWO HOURS UNTIL YOU'LL WISH TANAKA'S VISION WAS STILL HERE
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>>377701792
They're literally the same shit
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>>377700830
PLD mount is a deformed mutant lion, DRK mount is a reskinned coeurl. WAR gets the best tank mount by far.
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>>377701783
And WoW isn't currently good, yet its residual population clinging to the dying game is still more than XIV. That shows how good things were back in the day.
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An hour and a half of a half left.
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>>377688658
>Pod mount
Oh god yes please yoshi give it to me
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Just saw the Blade & Soul general. And I thought /xivg/ was bad...
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>>377701792
specify why, last i played legion combat was atleast on par with ffxiv
maybe they changed it in the last couple of patches, i don't know
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Post yer expectations.
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>>377701913
Is that the mmo with noodle people?
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>>377695731
EAT YOUR HAMBURGERDADDY YOKAI A2
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>>377701913
GW2 is way worse.
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>>377701964
No substantial information about any classes that aren't BLM
Yoshi jerking himself off over every little change
Healers and tanks still unbalanced
A "gameplay" trailer with animations that don't tell us anything
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>>377688658
Garo collab was at least cool outside the PvP grind and how tacky the actual Garo armor is compared to the other makai armor and priest sets.

Yokai Watch had shit glamours and a meme mount.
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>>377702056
Don't kill my Dragoon or I will play RM.
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>>377701869
it actually makes me really sad how they managed to remove any sense of adventure from the game
sure it may be a lot more balanced now but the magic is gone
mists was good though
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>>377702056
Samurai fucks everything up, we could have an easy BRD>SMN>AST or SCH>WAR>DRK
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>>377700896
Anon there's just two hours to the live letter, there's no need to start fake drama to entertain yourself.
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>>377702056
Haha epic! EPIC! I fu*king love reddit!
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>>377702097
>can't throw the mount key out so it doesn't clog up my mount guide
The ride never ends. I wonder if I can ask GMs to delete that thing from my inventory.
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Fucking SJW pandering is ruining every single game

fuck rapefugees
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>>377701964
make blood of the dragon toggle-able and cost mp
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>>377702117
Mists was unironically the golden age of WoW and fuck people who dismissed it as Kung Fu Panda.
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>>377702117
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>>377702056
>Abbreviates some jobs
>Shortens names of others
>Leaves other acronyms
HOLY FUCK JUST PICK ONE YOU FUCKING SHIT
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>>377702189
It's like you haven't paid any fucking attention to the story at all. It consistently portrays Ala Mhigan refugees as violent, lazy parasites. The only exceptions are Minfilia, Yda/Lyse, and Wilred.
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>>377702240
That argument only applies if you can't recognize criticism for the past and the bonuses of the current. Modern WoW does some things right, but a lot wrong.
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>>377702189
>SJW pandeirng
>he literally just says SOME
>SOME are able to not be assholes
It would have been SJW pandering if he said
>some don't lead honest lives
Fucking dipshit. You're as bad as SJWs at this point, getting triggered overy every tiny bit.
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>>377702271
>lines not straight
>text not centered
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>>377702240
Is that an actual item in the game?
Wow, way to shit on your fanbase.
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>>377700496
>mfw we'll see 50 minutes of blm shit and only 5 minutes for the other jobs
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>>377702240
That all actually sounds fun, though.
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>>377701239
I want to know why you can't just trade a house to someone else for the same price as just buying it again.

Having to pay someone to buy their house and then pay the same price again to buy it is a pain.
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>>377702189
Can you go back to your containment dumpster
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>>377702240
>quit current WoW and try out vanilla servers
>actually enjoy it more
yeah fuck off
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>>377702365
People sell houses for real money on Balmung.
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>>377702413
>RMT-ing homes
And no one gets caught?
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>>377702387
It wont last.
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>>377702319
>Modern WoW does some things right, but a lot wrong.
That's true. And XIV and WoW both have a lot to learn from each other still. But hey that's too reasonable let me shit on everything that isn't like when I was 14 :^)
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>>377702189
ala mhigan refugees are portrayed like shit though and you end up killing so many of them without caring because they were bad people
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>>377701961

WoW's combat is way more fluid.

You don't have to wait between gcds to hit ogcd moves or use a potion, you just hit the button and the game responds right away. This is all with a much faster gcd too. There are boss fights in the current tier that give you a 0.7s gcd at times and the fact that it just works and I can play at such a fast speed with the game responding to my each and every input feels great.

Yes, 14's class rotations are generally more complicated than WoW's but you can't compare the two when they play at completely different speeds, MNK with WoW's 1s GCD for energy classes would be fun as fuck and yet I'm stuck at 2s gcd, which is among the fastest in the game.

WoW also has much better designed raids and boss encounters, but doesn't match 14's presentation of bosses (music, visuals and just looking great in general)

This is coming from someone who loves both games, WoW's gameplay is just better overall because I don't have to play it around the flaws such as clunky movement. (14's netcode makes other player's movements fucking awful to look at, go do pvp if you want to see how shit it really is)
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>>377702458
Not as far as I know.
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>>377702189
>some
Yeah domans are able to do it unlike the mhigs.
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>>377701392
This is literally just wrong and not how the game works

All oGCD skills have a .75 second activation delay following a GCD
Each Mudra takes .5 seconds to cast
All damaging ninjutsu have a .75 casting animation

Raiton clips no matter what your ping is, it clips even if you let Huton fall off, it clips if you have literally 0 skill speed, it clips whether you're a fucking Brazilian or a Jap.

Literally the only situation in which you are ever using Raiton and not actively losing DPS is if you use it during foe's requiem with no CD's up.
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>>377688658
What's the source of that image?
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>>377698968
You can clear everything with 200 ping but that's not a fucking argument, lower ping is objectively in every single ways than higher ping, it's like running a marathon but before the start you injure everyone legs and that one guy that was already hurt that use to run marathon is so smug and say oh look I can run a marathon with an injury whats your fucking problem deal with it ??????
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>>377702472
yeah because vanilla servers are all shit
and we'll never get an official server because blizzard hates money
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>>377702376
8 more years

billclinton is a rapist, infowars dot com
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>>377701392
>Fuma is often used instead of Raiton when the enemy has more magic defense than physical
I think you mean "When Foe Requiem is being played" because lol
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>>377702505
>Mor Dhona is turned into a wasteland after the Agrius crashes
>just sitting there with nobody in it for 15 years
>Ala Mhigans sit in Ul'dah and cry about how they want a place to work and live
>Domans show up, move straight into Mor Dhona, immediately get crops growing again
>suddenly Ala Mhigans want to go to Mor Dhona
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>>377702458
How can you get caught if transactions are negotiated on programs like discord?
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>>377702548
Good thing this isn't a game that requires a low ping like Overwatch.
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>>377702505
Domans instantly got their dicks sucked by the Scions and not left to die in the middle of a desert
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>>377702484
WoW gameplay is shit with babby rotations and skills that feel/look weak so every class feels like it's just button mashing.
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>>377702589
Really zaps those neurons doesn't it
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>>377702484
i was going to call you a fag
but you actually made some valid points
i think XIV has alot to learn from wow but it still does alot of things better, same with legion
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How long is the Liveletter usually? 1 hour?
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>>377702484
>He plays ffxiv for pvp

in b4
>n-no i don't!
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>>377702589
This activated my almonds
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>101 ping on primal
>126 ping on chaos

This is lame.
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The worst thing about FF14 is that every job plays the same as there is no fucking skill tree. There were at least 3 different Warlocks in WoW but every fucking BLM is the same in FF14.
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>>377702625
>Playability isnt important as long as you can finish the game
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STARTING
http://sp.live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv295711219
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>>377702762
But Black Mage is completely and utterly different to Warlock. Wouldn't it be more apt and about a billion times less fucking stupid to compare Warlock to Summoner?
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>>377701375
All can be soloed easily at 250+ except the one where that fatty eats you since it's an instakill mechanic
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>>377702803
I was about to ask if there will be a stream on Twitch/Youtube/NND
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>>377702803
>due to high amount of complaints, Summoner has been removed from the game

OH SNAP
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>>377702850
There are links on lodestone, come on son
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>>377702739
It's been nipple twisting goodness for me.
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>>377702812
As if any WoW shitposter has actually seen anything related to XIV.
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>>377700339
drk 30-50, rogue 1-30, nin 30-50 are all excellent
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>>377702803
>Smartphone player
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>>377688658

>Billions of sluts running around with 2b thighhighs
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>>377702707
Its 2 hours.
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Is it even confirmed that every class change is going to be adressed or are you just assuming?
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>>377703027
Foxclon said it in the test yesterday.
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>>377702484
i actually agree with you even though i enjoy ffxiv combat alot more because of rotations being harder
i think it's a case of apples of oranges of what you prefer, either fast and responsive combat or combat with alot of different inputs and phases
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>>377703027
The only thing confirmed is utter disappointment
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>>377703027
>Using live gameplay, Yoshi-P will showcase and discuss details regarding the job action changes following the battle system adjustments!

That's all we know.
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>>377703027
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/4d47f72b46e0a84af0eed3195615377b688a4756
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>>377703037
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>>377702484
>MNK with WoW's 1s GCD for energy classes would be fun as fuck and yet I'm stuck at 2s gcd

how would you hit positionals? does wow have positionals?
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>>377702513
I beg to differ, if you're granted a crit Raiton is superior. Also, use Raiton if you have to move away from the boss to dodge something at the same time as your mudras become avaible. but yeah most of the time it's shuriken
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XIV needs to be more sexual like Revelation Online is.
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>>377703070
>i think it's a case of apples of oranges of what you prefer
This should have ended every arguments related to WoW vs XIV combat, but alas.
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>>377703141
Rogue does, on two skills.
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>>377702513
isn't Fuma Shuriken better on the virtue of being affected by your poisons, slashing debuffs and physical buffs?

Meanwhile Raiton isn't affected by poisons or slashing debuffs and is only buffed by foes
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>>377703141
By actually moving quickly.
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>>377703141
Not really.
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>>377702056
there's supposed to be a free bingo slot in the middle
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>>377701375

I soloed the level 50 8-man dungeons as SMN right when Heavensward came out, so around ilvl 170 or something? I doubt many of the 4-mans would be harder. Of course, SMN is the easiest DD job to solo with, the others need higher ilvl. Conversely, SCH can do it at even lower.

You can also solo the level 50 EX primals with most jobs at current gear levels.
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>>377702484
>Energy is fun

hell no it isnt

Classes feel so fucking slow during your downtime, way worse than this game
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>>377702240
YOU THINK YOU WANT IT
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>>377703182
Whats sexual about that? I played it a week and there was nothing overly lewd. Just some suggestive NPC comments and the ability to carry and smooch your partner.
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>>377688658
I need that Roe thigh in my face right this instant.
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>>377703205
If we're talking about solo potency alone Raiton still come out on top for just a bit.
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>>377703205
yes, raiton is only better during foe
don't reply to obvious bait
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>>377703205
This is correct, but on its own that would still not put it above Raiton if it wasn't for all the delays.
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>>377702189
dont you have a conniving president to be defending right now
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>>377703252
Ifrit always busted my summoners as with 220 equipment.
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>>377702669

There are certainly more complex ones than others. WoW also makes use of things like activated trinkets, random procs, charge and channel based spells, several different combat aspects that 14 doesn't have or lacks.

MCH actually feels like the most WoWish class in 14 because of it's use of procs and CD lining, and how each boss fight can greatly influence how you play it. I feel like in general 14 could strive to have some more reflex thinking when it comes to combat, rather than every boss being super scripted with not much pull-by-pull variance that challenges you to adapt on the fly to continue to play your class effectively.

>>377702730

I most certainly do not, I only ever do PvP for glamour gear the rare times I need to do it. Trying to hit anyone as melee short of full team cooperation was a nightmare because my target would simply run away, and actually be much further ahead and out of melee than on my screen, causing all my attacks to fail once they reached the server. This also applies to PvE, where trying to melee a moving target feels like a struggle despite my character being right next to it.
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>>377703141
wow has a 1.5 GCD if i remember correctly
but still though ffxiv is a bit too slow, make the GCD 2 seconds instead of 2.5 and the combat would be perfect, enough time to do positionals and have more window to make sure you're doing your rotation correctly
that's all i want, a 2 second GCD
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>>377702484
>There are boss fights in the current tier that give you a 0.7s gcd at times and the fact that it just works and I can play at such a fast speed

No time to think in between gcds means you are button mashing. Wow's combat involves you standing in one spot most of the time and mashing the same few abilities. XIV is way more of a jump rope game where the entire party has to actively be doing something besides their rotation or you wipe.
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>>377702739

Literally dont understand why they didn't choose midwest for server location
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>>377703352
Play MNK or NIN
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>>377703148
Nope, even with Kassatsu it's a DPS loss to use Raiton, it's less than a 20 potency increase
In fact, even just getting The Arrow during foe's requiem means you should switch back to Fuma instead of Raiton

>>377703205
Fuma has 317 potency with your buffs/debuffs
Raiton is always 360
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>>377703359
WoW has way more mechanics per raid encounter to deal with.
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>>377703261
Some very sexual dances, super huge bouncing breasts, nipples, loli mob and this.
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>>377703392
but i want to play DRK
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>>377703247
Yeah, the XIV IS DEAD one.
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>>377703365
>live in missouri
>Ping didn't really change at all

but yeah I don't get it either
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>>377703359
It's really obvious you haven't played WoW in a while if at all so you can stop shitposting now.
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>>377703352
It's not about GCD length. WoW registers ability activations and movement client-side so there's no delay between you doing something and the game noticing it. No pre-casting or movement required, it just works
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>>377703132
>>377703037
My superior dragon brethren
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Why isn't the liveletter starting now? I WANT TO GO TO BEDDIE BYES.
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>>377703352
Nobody has 2.5 GCDs at endgame thanks to skill speed.

It's more like 2.2 and that's not taking into account buffs like astro's or scholars pet that increase it even further.
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>>377703439
that's wrong
every alex tier so far has more mechanics than emerald nightmare and trails
i stopped playing wow when trails of valor got released so i haven't touched the new raid
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>>377703603
It starts in th middle of my fucking work day
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>>377703485

>live in missouri

I'm sorry
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>>377703606
0.3 seconds less.

WEW.
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>>377703329

220 is too low unless you specifically make a VIT build but you can kill it at around 250.
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>>377703603
it's in less than 2 hous
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>>377703606
>Arrow
>Fey Wind
lel
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>>377703603
Theres no acceptable timezone right now for you to be going to sleep at this hour. Not in the U.S. or EU.
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>>377703603
still like 2 hours to go
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>>377703606
DRG, MCH, WAR pretty evenly stay at 2.4, in fact they WANT to stay at 2.4.

Fey Wind is garbage. Like, not only is it not noticeable it barely lets you win any GCDs per fight at all.

>Arrow
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>>377703415
Butthurt BLM detected.
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>>377703359

As a windwalker monk I always have to think between cds and ahead of time to not fuck myself over or starve myself of resources when I need them. For reference, using the same ability twice in a row is one of the worst things you can do.

>>377703439

And with this, WoW also has a lot more going on at the same time. You have mechanics that overlap and more people doing different things at once. One mechanic after another is something 14's bosses do a lot, and it honestly gets a bit boring sometimes. There are exceptions, but I want to see the mechanics interact and combo with each other more similar to A8S intermission phases.
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>>377703603
It's a little over an hour away.
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>>377703683
he's australian
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>>377703683
Only Auscucks.
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>>377703683
>he doesn't take good boy afternoon nappy naps
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>>377703683
SOME OF US WORK NIGHTS
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>>377703683
its a holiday faggot I sleep whenn I want today
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>>377702775
Well what else can I do? I enjoy the game still. I'm not EU so I can't just transfer there to receive a lower ping.
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>>377703715
BLM's AF3 sucks dick too
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>>377703776
Play on JP servers then lol
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>>377703683
>He doesn't sleep 18 hours a day
Enjoy your early death.
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>>377703439
>>377702484

I don't believe you have ever touched a savage raid in FF14.
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>>377702513
>>377703148
Did something change about the Fuma damage scaling with HW? Because I played FFXIV up to right before HW's release and using fuma was always a DPS loss no matter what even if rather small.
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>>377703778
>we just throw random shit together and painted it yellow and blue because BLM, get that? get that? ; )
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>>377703434
Crit are 150% in this game ?

317 *1.5 = 476
360 *1.5 = 540

So now we have to consider that in most optimal case fuma takes 2 seconds to pull off while Raiton takes 2.5 seconds, supopsing a 2.1 GCD, using Raiton clip us by 0.4 which is 16%, now how much potency does NIN do in average on his GCD skills ? Considering optimal debuff and dot stacking ?
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When is the live letter gonna be?
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>>377703814
That's going to make it worse than the newly located NA servers.
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>>377703715
>butthurt
>when BLMs are getting AM for their ley lines
>And a fucking triple swiftcast
>And Enochian no longer having its own timer
>and potentially even being able to stack Enochian depending on what Polyglot is
Have fun with your Ruin IV, faggot.
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>>377688658
Good, fuck cross-franchise promotions and fuck them especially in MMOs.

I liked Automata and I don't want its content in XIV.
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>>377703182
No fuck off, we don't more ERPing and waifufaggots ruining the community
>>
What's the ranking color in FFlogs again?
Orange = 99th
Purple = 75th+
Blue = 50th+

Something like this?
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>>377703778
>random pouches with nothing
>a book
>A FUCKING LEAF
I can't.
>>
When are they going to unfuck BRD, /v/?

It wasn't supposed to be this way.
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>>377703847
They removed poison damage buff to Raiton along the way.
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>>377703850
>Random shit

fuck you that shoulder quill is totally deliberate and necessary

speaking of random shit, did you know that Keita Amemiya is in charge of boss design for the Return to Ivalice raid?
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>>377703823

Enjoy having half as much time in your life as everyone else, and then dying early to blood clots anyway.
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>>377703836
WoW has way more mechanics and they're often more varied. The problem with XIV mechanics is that messing up pretty much anything is an instant death and its hard to recover in an 8 man settings compared to WoW's 10/25.
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WHERE'S THE FUCKING NEW THREAD YOU GODDAMN FUCKING JEWS
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>>377694752
The content of that bag doesn't make any fucking sense. Why would she buy 2 melon breads, a pocari sweat and a fucking leek?
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>>377704001
Make one yourself you fucking queerbait.
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>>377703836
>raiding in XIV
lmao, enjoy your artificial mechanics and bosses doing asspulls
I'll be over here with my consistent encounters
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>>377704014
Leek is probably to shove up whoever she's visiting's ass to cure japanese cold.
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>>377704014

Shut up, you don't pay her sub
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>>377703909
Incoming BRD Jonestown when they reveal they're not removing WM
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>>377704074
>artificial mechanics
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>>377703883
100 gold
95-99 orange
75-94 purple
50-74 blue
25-59 green
1-24 grey
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>>377703860
crit damage is determined by critical hit rate.
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>>377704105
But they already said that long time ago.
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>>377689360
>cross event with your own companys IP
>costing literally fucking anything other than production costs
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>>377704014
maybe she is missing wares and is just restocking?
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>>377704105
>Jonestown
>Not Heaven's Gate
It's either get shot or drink the Kool-Aid with Jonestown
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>>377704129
Thank you
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>>377703960
Oh, ok, that explains it, I guess they wanted people to use it so they made it the best option when not in guaranteed mudra crit.
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>>377704129
Because red to green wasn't complicated enough.
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>quicktime events
how can one MMO be so fucking shit
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>>377703860
crits do an additional 1% of damage with every 1% increase in your crit rate (from gear at least)
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>>377704074

>artificial mechanics

Just how retarded are you

Oh right, retarded enough that you can only play if you have mods telling you exactly what to do at all times while pressing your five button rotation over and over while standing still.

>>377703993

I don't believe you have ever touched a savage raid in FF14, or even looked at what they are like. I believe you are another WoW-tard making shit up.
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>>377704105

I can't wait. I've mained BRD since I started playing this game and honestly the teas created by WM were hilarious. I hope it stays so shitters stay away from my job since it already has way too many
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>>377704256
>one QTE as a reference to a game in the series about time travel during the raid about time travel
Wooooow
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>>377704256
>One QTE in 1 fight
How is that a problem again?
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>Tfw kitted out NIN
>Think I want to change to SAM
>Wasted all my tokens
>Dont feel like grinding scripture and void ark raids

FUCK
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>>377704105
They're going to add The Guy Who Stands Still's Elegy

now even OCD moves have cast times
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>>377704105
I wouldn't be too surprised if they turn it into a cooldown.
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>>377704294
2 fights, casual
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>>377704294
>>377704292
It's not even "quick" either. You can also literally press any button to finish it.
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>>377704347
>Hurrdurr
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>>377704348
because yoshi said people would be too stupid and fuck it up, so you can press anything and it would launch you down
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>>377704521
>>377704521
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>>377704291
>so shitters stay away from my job
I fucking wished. Still get a lot of shitter BRDs nowadays.
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>>377704402
There's no real timing to it either other than making sure you do it in the 10 seconds you have to do so.
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>>377704581
>Not playing chicken with your static
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>>377704402
>tfw you die the first time on Cruise Chaser because they just show you a blank button and want you to press literally any button

Goddamnit
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>>377704380
Normal and Savage are two different fights.
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>>377704105
>>377704158
>>377704182
>tfw you've been waiting for an excuse
>will finally know freedom from this suffering

BRD plays like shit now. You can't just take a kit designed for one thing and then try to hammer it into a completely different playstyle and expect things to work.
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>>377704692
>qte is different
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>>377704128

Name something on the level of ironstar kiting in FFXIV.

For reference: the boss in question summons a giant rolling bomb that must be kited into the boss to interrupt his raid wiping cast. The sequence goes as follows:

>Boss summons aoe circles
>Raid must stack together in a safe spot to make a big aoe circle spawn when the small ones are going out
>When the big circle spawns, the bomb spawns and fixates the closest target to it
>Fixate target must outrun the bomb that moves much faster than they do, while getting help from the raid in the means of external movement speed increases
>Fixate target must be in a position to run through the boss at the correct time (which changes each pull because of how he accumulates energy to begin his cast), making the bomb collide and stun the boss to interrupt his raid wipe cast window of 1 second.
>If the target is too early, too late, or hits any member of the raid with the bomb, you wipe


The hardest mechanic I've had to deal with in 14 was twintania divebombs, which is mostly because they are poorly implemented from a boss design standpoint.

>target gets marker
>you should stay away from the marker to not get knocked back
>except you have so little time to react and get in a safe position from the marker's spot that the only safe thing to do is actually pan your camera around and rush towards twintania and take the damage so you don't get bumped from behind or some other dumb shit

I understand what they meant, but the entire order of mechanics is wrong and unforgiving. Twintania should spawn first, mark someone, then charge. Not mark someone from whoknowshwere, spawns, and charges right after giving you little to no time to react.
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>>377704873
>The hardest mechanic I've had to deal with in 14 was twintania divebombs
Try anything in fucking Burden of Son (Savage)
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>>377704952

Most of those are the exact same each pull, once you learn it you'll have it down every time unless you are playing poorly.

In Twintania's case, what's the fucking point of giving someone a marker if I have no time to react? If I simply run away from it, she could bump me from the direction she spawns from or hit me in the back. I know it was their first raid, but come on.
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>>377704796
QTE is the same but it IS two encounters where it appears, dumb frogposter.
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>>377705194
you are meant to dodge it like bahamut
they abused the pit only because it's much easier to bait it there
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>ex roulette
>schberd our healer
>I play Mhigger's Requiem and ask schberd to dps
>"I queued healer but I'll dps, no problem bro"
my man
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>your first job to 70 is a DPS
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>>377705418
>not "my bro"
almost perfect
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>>377705556
Of course. Gonna rush trough the leveling dungeons as a dps while all the peeps level up the new jobs
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