Wait, I am not really much into the Metal Gear franchise, but

>>377682586
Solid Snake is a clone of Big Boss.

>>377682586
>i thought Solid Snake WAS Big Boss.
No, he isn't.

There, that was easy.

>>377682712
Okay, so, in Phantom Pain, do you play Solid Sanke or Big Boss? I thought MGS5 took place after MGS (and all the Metal Gear games take place before all the MGS games)

>>377682837
Chronologically:
MGS3 > (Portable Ops) > Peace Walker > Ground Zeroes > MGSV > MG1 > MG2 > MGS1 > MGS2 > MGS4 > (MGR)

Solid Snake is the protagonist of MG1, MG2, MGS1 and MGS4.
Big Boss is the protagonist of MGS3, PO, PW, GZ and V.

>>377682837
Bog Boss is the father of Solid Snake.
In MGSV you play as Venom Snake (Big Boss phantom and his former medic). MGSV also has the boy named Eli, who is a twin brother of Solid Snake. While there are some soldiers implanted with Big Boss genes, Solid Snake (David) and Liquid Snake (Eli) are his actual sons. EVA is their mother.

>>377682586
>Anyone can explain?
You thought wrong

>>377683148
>Big
Fix'd

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>>377682586
Big Boss and Solid Snake are father and son.


Big Boss in MG1(in the pic) is some other guy named Venom Snake
Big Boss in MG2 is the real deal

Just plat MGS1 and MGS3, and if you must MGS2 and MGS4. Then never touch the series again. Threads are garbage now.

People will tell you to play in in release order, but no one really cares and the story is shit anyways.

Forgot to add: in GZ part of V you play as the real Big Boss.
See that horn in the comic you posted? It's Venom Snake not Big Boss. He is the endboss of the original MSX Metal Gear game.

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There's also Solidus Snake who is the president and the third clone of Big Boss.

>>377683579
>and if you must MGS2
If I must? I thought MGS2 was one of the best game of the franchise.

I I ever get into the franchise, I might consider playing all of the game in the release order of the first edition of each game, but not play specifically the first edition of each game.

For each game, which version should I play (consider that I don't have playstation, consoles, but can play on PC or even Nintendo consoles (including portables). And how playable are the MGS game when using mouse and keyboard?

So, if I play only one version of each game, which Should I play?

>>377684083
Buy a PS3 and the Legacy Collection. It has all the games sans V and GZ. Play those two on PC.

>>377682997
>Ground Zeroes > MGSV
Isn't Gorund Zeroes included in MGS5 anyway?

>>377684225
In the "definitive experience" version, yeah

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>>377684221
>>377684221
Legacy collection isn't available on PC?
And isn't Portal Ops exclusive to the PSVita?

And where does Snake Eater take place?

>>377682586
BIG BOSS was in your kokoro all along

>>377684342
Snake eater is MGS3, don't play it on 3DS though play it on the PS3 legacy collection.

And no the legacy collection is not on PC

>>377682997
The protag of V is a Venom Snake who is a random medic wearing the face of Big Boss.

You following OP?

>>377684083
>I thought MGS2 was one of the best game of the franchise.
It's a controversial one, you probably wouldn't like it that much on your first playthrough but many love it because it has a bit of a deeper narrative.
It doesn't play as well as the other games however.

>>377684342
No, it isn't. You can forget about older MGS games on PC. 2 and 3 run like shit natively, and emulating them is near impossible. The PS HD collection versions are the definitive ones.

Portable Ops is garbage and non-canon anyway

>>377684342
Portable ops is oroginally a PSP game and it's not included in the legacy collection for some reason
Snake Eater is a prequel to the entire series

>>377682997

Jesus christ. This is horrifying.

>>377684471
Medic-kun is equally Big Boss, since it was him who was behind both Diamond Dogs and Outer Heaven, not Naked Snake.

>>377684529
2 has a great PC version
3 can be emulated without any problems

>>377682586
>the one before metal gear solid
The one before metal gear solid is Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. The comic is based on Metal Gear.

>>377684630
This is bullshit.

>>377682997
Solid Snake is also a protag of MGS2 tanker part!
Raiden is a protag in MGS2 Shell and MGR

>>377684620
fair enough

>>377684670
No it isn't dude if you do some research and setup your shit properly.

>>377684730
>tanker part
For whopping ten minutes.

>>377684849
For 1,5-2 hours on the 1st playthrough if you watch all the cutscenes.

>>377684529
>Portable ops is oroginally a PSP game
Does the legacy collection also contain the original Metal Gear games?

>>377684417
>Snake eater is MGS3
>>377684537
>Snake Eater is a prequel to the entire series
Okaay, which one is right?

>>377684529
>>377684630
I heard Metal Gear Rising Revengence play well on PC?

>>377685375
Both

>>377685375
MGS3 : Snake Eater is a prequel to the entire series
>>377685325
Yes it does
>>377685447
Yes

>>377682837
Research it yourself you fucking retard, stop sealioning.

>>377683579
>>377684083
>>377682586


Ignore him, 2 is worth playing, it's actually one of the only MGS games worth playing. What you should do is play only the following games and in release order.

MGS1 > MGS2 > MGS3

That's it. That's all you need to play. Everything else is fucking shit and should be ignored. The first 3 MGS games are the only good ones everything else is just fucking retarded.

>>377685375
Just play them in the order of release, shit will all click together

>>377685675
MGS4, V and MG Rising are also good games. Memes aside everyone is trying too hard to fit in by saying 4 and V are shit. Stop trying to fit in because /v/ has a shit taste, thus, isn't the right place to do so.

>>377685631
>stop sealioning.
I don't think that's what sealioning is.

Anyway, the whole concept is weird to me. People who complain about sealioning are basically saying "you are not allowed to question what I say because I think you are inquiring in bad faith"

I can understand the very basic gist of it, but I think it open a loophole that is way to easy to exploit to deflect any kind of criticism.

>>377685723
That's what I want, but I'd rather play only one version of each. If MGS3 and Sanke eater are the same game, I don't want to play them both, only one of them.

>>377683932
He also did nothing wrong. Just like his voice actor.

>>377683594
>part of V
no you don't

>>377685979
Yes I fucking do. Enough of that, the game is called Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes

>>377682586
Metal Gear Solid 3: You play as Naked Snake, who becomes Big Boss at the end.

Peace Walker: You play as Big Boss

Metal Gear Solid V: You play as Venom Snake, a man who is the shadow of Big Boss.

Metal Gear: You play as the clone of Big Boss, Solid Snake. You kill Venom Snake.

Metal Gear 2: You play as Solid Snake and this time kill Big Boss for real (Spoiler: No you don't).

Metal Gear Solid: You play as Solid Snake. Big Boss's other clone turns up, Liquid Snake.

Metal Gear Solid 2: You play as Solid Snake and Raiden. Raiden isn't biologically connected to Snake but is the adoptive son of the other OTHER clone of Big Boss, Solidus Snake... who was also the President of the US. Something about memes.

Metal Gear Solid 4: You play as Old Snake, having aged artificially due to clone shenanigans. Also, turns out Big Boss wasn't dead and was surviving through medication and organ transplants from Liquid and Solidus' corpses. But then he dies anyway.

Metal Gear Rising: You play as Raiden because RULES OF NATURE! Memes, Jack.

See, it's simple.

>>377686085
And V stands for "Venom" not the roman numeral

>>377686174
You skipped PO and GZ in which you also play as Big Boss

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>>377682997
Wait a minute, so when David Hayter complained about not being the voice of Solid Snake in MGS5, he was actually complaining about not voicing Big Boss, who isn't solid Snake, so his complain were baseless?

Also, wasn't he replaced by Keith Sutherland because he complained publicly about the ending of MGS4?

>>377686197
It can be both.

>>377686346
Big Boss also appears in a couple of scenes in the game, but is also voiced by Sutherland.

>>377686174

>Also, turns out Big Boss wasn't dead and was surviving through medication and organ transplants from Liquid and Solidus' corpses. But then he dies anyway.

remember that time they burned BB's corpse to access the patriots, only it wasnt really his, and the end of MGS2 didnt really happen, except parts of it did, except Solidus died in a completely unrelated way, then Liquid was actually just ocelot pretending to be retarded, then BB showed up out of nowhere because he'd just been chilling on his own for like 30 years?

>>377686259
Portable Ops is non-canon (like Snake's Revenge, Ghost Babel and Acid) but you're right, I forgot Ground Zeroes.

>>377686346
>>377686403
Oh wait, I misread your post.
Anyhow, he voiced both SS and BB in MGS1-3. Since SS is a clone of BB I guess they could get away with them having identical voices.

>>377682837
You know, I'd think that no one could be this retarded, but I've actually had a couple of people ask me questions like this.

>>377686346
It wasn't baseless because he voiced both Solid Snake and Big Boss.

>>377686423
It is canon to some extent just like MGR. Kojima has stated it in the interview. When the game is not canon he just says it isn't like with Metal Gear Survive.

>>377686470
BB is a loose term as of MGSV, because Naked Snake and Venom Snake are both BB. One is in MG1 and the other in MG2.

>>377686451
Can you imagine if Hayter also voiced BB in MGS4? With the same shitty Old Snake voice, just in a dialogue with himself.

>>377686423
>Portable Ops is non-canon
What made it non canon? and does it actually has plot points that are in contradiction with other games of the series?

>>377682586
Plissken is Big Boss in MG1 and MG2.
The solid snake in MGS2 is decoy octopi.
The Big Boss in MGS3 is Jack Bowel.
The solid snake in MGS4 is decoy octopi.
The Big Boss in MGS4 is John McAffee.

Noob.

I heard the best version of MGS2 is the gamecube one? True?

Also, I heard Fox only appear in the Nintendo ports? True?

Is knowing about Fox important?

How playable is MGS5 with mouse and keyboard?

>>377685675
I would say MGS4 is worth playing for the wrap up solid snake story desu

>>377686689
Superior to a controller.

>>377686637
I think it's not directed by Kojima or something. As another anon said it's semi-canon. The game is canon in terms of the general events, but not the details.

>>377686483
Bear in mind my knowledge of the Metal Gear series is solely based on videogame webcomics and internet meme. so there is that.

>>377686745
Alright thanks. Gonna put it on my wishlist and buy it on sale.

>>377686681
The best MGS2 version is on neo geo pocket.
Fox (Eren Yeager) also makes an appearance as a boxer guy in Metal Gear Tekken (MGT) spinoff games

>>377686637
I think it has stuff involving Frank Jaeger, doesn't it?
Kojima said that he doesn't really consider it canon but sort of does.
Basically I think he's saying that he didn't really write it and is covering his ass to contradict the game's it later (although that's a moot point now)

>>377686881
>(although that's a moot point now)
Now, now, it's always possible Kojima buy the franchise back to Konami, if the star align correctly, armagedon happens, humanity rebuild itself and he get in a lucky day...

>>377682586
Why did you even come here and post this if you know literally fuck all about Metal Gear? What in the fuck?

Lucky you OP, wish i could go through this series fresh again.

>>377684543
It's incredibly simple if you actually play the games. You can tell within five seconds of starting all of these games when it takes place because it's very linear.

Metal Gear for the MSX up to MGS2 was a straight line. In MGS3 they decided to do a prequel game starring Big Boss decades earlier. Then MGS4 picked up where 2 left off, in the "present". Then Portable Ops and Peace Walker followed MGS3, back in the "past". Then Metal Gear Rising followed MGS4, present. Then MGSV followed Peace Walker, past.

All of Big Boss's games (MGS3, Peace Walker, MGSV) are a prequel series all set before the first Metal Gear.

>>377687002
Maybe he did it exactly because he knew literally fuck all and wanted to learn? Not that you'd understand such motivation.

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>>377682997
>>377686174

kek, anyone want to try explaining Snake in Ac!d?

>>377682586
>comic shows venom snake
>when naked snake was the president of zanzibar land

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So, for those who have played, is this strip actually funny?

>>377687095
Then why not go play the games? Oh right I'm on /v/.

>>377687136
It's a card game, isn't it? It's set in the universe of Metal Gear, but it's whatever the player made it, isn't it?

>>377685956
For any game with multiple releases, play the most recent release. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater was the original release of MGS3. Then they released Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence, which is the exact same story but they added a bunch of stuff and fixed some camera problems, essentially a definitive edition. MGS2 was the same way, the first release was MGS2: Sons of Liberty, then they released MGS2: Substance, which was the definitive edition.

All of the collections, and the HD versions, and all of that, will be of the better versions (2:Substance and 3:Subsistence). You would have to track down the original PS2 discs to accidentally end up playing Sons of Liberty or Snake Eater.

>>377687136
What about MGA1?

>>377687139
Am I just getting trolled at this point?

>>377687192
Fuck out of here and go create BoTW, Persona 5 and Nier Automata threads jesus christ

>>377686346
There was one interview where he said it might cost too much to even get him.

I think he should've been the real Big Boss in GZ and the ending, but Kojima never wanted him anyways.

I think he was just fucking around

>>377687095
Not him but the games are pretty much self explanatory if you play them. The only thing he would probably need a quick rundown on are the games pre-mgs1 since those are less accessible and a bit archaic gameplay-wise.

>>377687271
Venom snake is the clone of Big Boss (Naked Snake)
Solid Snake is the clone of Big Boss (Naked Snake)

>>377687350
Snake snake is the snake

>>377687142
A bit.

The last Metal Gear on that list is the furthest in the timeline, yet is the smallest and least impressive.

Though, they get a break with Sahelanthropus because that thing didn't actually work.

>>377687142
Its a pretty obvious joke, but its true.

I liked that the one in MGSV is barely functional and can only be powered by Mantis.

>>377687350
>>377687271
I fucked that up badly
Venom Snake is the body-double for Big Boss (Naked Snake) so that he could lay low for a while
Solid Snake is the son (clone of) Big Boss, whose brother is Liquid Snake (Eli)

>>377687402
This too

>>377687350
Seriously now, stop it. Either this thread is some huge joke or I'm the only person here who's actually played these games.

>>377687350
Venom Snake is a guy who was tricked into thinking he was Big Boss. You can call him a memetic clone or whatever and it's technically true and part of the idea behind the game, but for explanatory purposes it's much simpler to just say he's an impostor.

>>377687142
The amusing part is that the 1995 one is probably more effective than all of the previous ones. Shagohod barely worked, don't remember much about Raxa or PW, Zeke and Sahelanthropus didn't even work because Huey is a fucking hack.

>>377687447
I didn't mean to call him a clone of snake

>>377687462
Yeah I see your other post now.

>>377687136
It's not even the same universe. Just a spinoff.
They're both great games actually.

>>377687462
Glad to hear. At least someone else knows what they're talking about.

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>>377687208
Yeah, but they had the same kinda identity fuckary as MGS2.

> Ac!d you're Solid Snake but "not-Solid Snake"
> Ac!d you're "Snake" who is "not-Solid Snake's" son, but not related to Solid Snake.

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>>377685956
please just let this be bait anon
its Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
although there's snake eater and subsistence but the latter is just an updated(better) version of the snake eater one
also you retarded fuck prequels can be made after the shit they're prequeling (release order is not chronological order)
its still the third metal gear solid game

Just a reminder for anyone here wanting to play these games, the entire series is playable owning only a PS3 if you want to play it on one console.

>>377687448
Shagohod worked pretty well, didn't it? They never ended up using it the way they were supposed to, Volgin was a retard and decided to chase some people down in a tank made for long range nuclear assaults. Sahelanthropus was the only one that explicitly didn't work.

>>377687448
Peace Walker was so good it literally drowned itself to prevent nuclear war. Too pure for this world.

>>377686346
>he was actually complaining about not voicing Big Boss, who isn't solid Snake, so his complain were baseless?
Pretty much. He voiced younger Big Boss previously, but in MGS4 BB was voiced by Richard Doyle. It would make sense for him to sound different as he gets older, and I think it's important to differentiate him from Snake.

I mean, the fact that there are so many people like you out there who don't know the difference between them demonstrates why Big Boss and Solid Snake should have different voices. It's especially retarded when you consider the other clones (Liquid and Solidus) sound completely different. David Hayter should never have been Big Boss, and even though he was previously, there's no reason he should have expected to play him (or Venom for that matter) in V.

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>>377687448
How did ZEKE not work? It was fully functional and deployable in combat. It's only fault was being unable to defeat a Snake, which every Metal Gear has fallen to.

>>377687573
I have no issue with prequel existing, but the problem was some posters made it sound as if it as two separate game. when asked for clarification, one said "just play them in order of release", which didn't really answer the question.

>>377687635
Didn't big boss have a different voice actor than snake in the japanese version?

>>377687615
>"this thing can't launch a missile far enough"
>"strap some rocket boosters to it and put it on a runway"
>"if it needs boosters and a runway how's it better than a regular silo?"
>"uhh..."
It was useless as a missile platform but it was a pretty kickass tank.

>>377687712
It was stolen by a fucking girl in her underwear. What was Kojima thinking?

>>377687716
Other than MGS4, no. In fact Solidus was the same voice actor as well.

>>377687716
He voiced all of them except for Liquid and the Big Boss in MGS4.

>>377687658
My metal gear is solid for that snek

>>377687762
A cute girl in her underwear

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>>377687807

>>377687831
And it was awesome!

>>377687831
Exactly, that's what I wanted to say

>>377687762
Pacifica is a trained spy, and she's like in her 20's. She only looks like a schoolgirl because that was her designated role, and her body might have been permanently fucked up by some growth stunting drugs.

>>377687716
As others have said, Akio Otsuka voiced all the snakes except Liquid, and BB in 4 (where he was voiced by Otsuka's dad). Kind of irrelevant though because even Kojima treats the English versions as the definitive ones.

>>377687712
I explained that, it was designed by Huey. I wouldn't trust that cuck to make a toaster.

>>377682997
But what about Snake's Revenge and Penguin Adventure?

>>377682586
uh huh

>>377687287
Kojima never really liked Hayter considering he wanted to get rid of him since MGS1. Most likely Kojima only considers Snake's JPN VA the real one.

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>>377687897
>Liquid Ocelot was voiced by Liquid in MGS4 because the VA died
>Liquid Ocelot in the dub was voiced by Ocelot like originally intended

That jogging for the noggin

>>377688101
It's proof of two different universes, Death Stranding is Silent Hills, the child soldiers started KFC, etc, etc...

>>377688170
I hope Caramel live streams his suicide when this shit doesn;t happen at E3.

>>377687897
He's praised Akio Otsuka's voice as the definitive voice of snake before, I don't think he considers one more real than the other in the end.

>>377688074
Regardless of his like/dislike of Hayter, Kojima considers the English version of MGS to be the "official" version, because they are all English speaking characters.

Kojima is a real westaboo.

>>377685956
Retarded op

Snake died on that tanker two years ago.

>>377687429
MGS community is mostly sandniggers and south americans that barely understand english so they fuck up the story a lot.

>>377688170
Except KFC was founded years before the events of MGSV

>>377687762
So what, every machine can be stolen

>>377688638
>ask if it's the same game or different one because only want to play one version of each game
>get answered to play them in release order
>retarded

>>377682997
Where's Ghost Babel

>>377687448
Peace Walker was strong.
IIRC If it didn't become self aware and kill itself nuclear holocaust would occur.

>>377688604
Well Akio Otsuka IS cool...

>>377688794
Yeah, 1930, so yeah.

>>377687287
Yeah they could have done it several ways too.

>David Hayter voicing Ishmael in the truth mission

Then

>Have Hayter voice him in GZ but say there was creative differences to explain Sutherland as Venom

or

>Unlock a voice patch for Ground Zeroes after being the game

Instead they just chose to be lame.

>>377688838
Non-canon

>>377686648
Wait there are several copies of Decoy octopuss? And they all mimic one person together?

>>377686648
>octopi
Octopi is the plural form you idiot.

>>377689667
Octopuses is actually the correct pluralization. Octopi is nothing.

>>377689667
>>377689773
I think both are considered correct.

>>377687739
The point was that it needed an air strip instead of a silo. And given the threads it wasn't even that specific about the ground of the air strip. A cleared area of forest would do. Or a field, etc. But it was mentioned in one of the games that Shagohod became obsolete anyway as missile tech advanced.

>>377689862
>>377689773
The issue here is that he uses plural form when talking about an individual.

Here you go.

Snake Eater and MGS3 are the same. It's not a version. The name of the game is MGS3: Snake Eater, BUT, there was a new version, almost like a 'DLC' from the physical media times, called MGS3:Subsistence, which has some tweaks, like 360° camera controls.

Hatter complained because he had voiced "Snake" for 15 years. By 'Snake', read Solid and Naked.

If you want to understand everything, play all the numbered games, and then read what happens in MG1 and 2 (MG1 and 2 are different games from MGS1 and 2).

You can play the Legacy Collection (that I think is available for both PS3 and X360).

So here's what you should play:

Metal Gear Solid
Metal Gear Solid 2
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

Then go to Metal Gear wiki and read about those:

Metal Gear
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake

>>377690084
Legacy also has Metal Gear 1 and 2.

>>377687208
>It's set in the universe of Metal Gear

Ac!d is an alternate universe of the main MGS universe. "Solid Snake" (the character you play as in Ac!d 1) is a soldier who served previously served under "Roy Cambell", and "Solid Snake" previously encountered a Metal Gear, but there's no other connections between the Acid games and the main Metal Gear games, character or story wise. Obviously, the cards are full of references to the mainline MGS games and other Kojima games, but the characters don't consciously recognize the card's subjects as part of their own universe. "Snake" in Ac!d 2 is a clone of "Solid Snake" from Ac!d 1, and yet again Ac!d 2 doesn't involve characters or events from the main MGS games.

The big contradiction between Ac!d and the main MGS story is that Ac!d 1 occurs years after MGS4, when Solid Snake's advanced aging turns him into Old Snake, and he's supposed to die from FoxDie soon after, while Ac!d Snake only looks like he's in his thirties and totally healthy.

>>377690084
>You can play the Legacy Collection (that I think is available for both PS3 and X360).
odds of a Nintendo switch port?

>>377686483
I was confused about this before i played the games, mostly because everyone is named some variation of Snake.
I also confused Big Boss and The Boss at first before i looked them up

And about Hayter not voicing BB on GZ, has it ever occured to you that we were playing a memory inserted into Venom's head?

I understand that it is just idiotic in Cyprus, but for GZ it is plausible.

>>377690379
>I also confused Big Boss and The Boss at first before i looked them up
Isn't the Boss a woman?

>>377690084
>You can play the Legacy Collection (that I think is available for both PS3 and X360).

Legacy Collection is PS3 only. MGS1,2,3,4, , PW, MGS: VR Missions, MG1 & MG2 (from the MGS3 menu), and the digital comics from the PSP.

PS3 and Xbox 360 has the Metal Gear Solid HD collection. MGS2,3, and Peace Walker, and MG1 & MG2 (from the MGS3 menu)

>>377690438
Yes
I had only heard her name before looking her and Big Boss up though, never saw a picture, or at the very least not one that implied that was her name

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>>377682837
You don't play big boss in Phantom pain.
And at the same time you do.

>>377685889
MGS4 is bad in every way imaginable faggot
The writing is some of the worst the series has seen, with even more forced and less natural sounding dialogue than any of the other games and people going off on stupid long monologues that say nothing for no reason, not to mention the endless retcons that technically make sense but are also dumb asspulls
The gameplay mechanic are solid but they're only actually present and utilized for two of the five acts, as act 3 locks you into a very tedious tailing mission and is then totally on rails, act 4 is nearly 100% void of human enemies and act 5 is a glorified walk down a couple of hallways and then an admittedly great boss fight
Finally the game constantly tells you things it should be showing or at least doing a better job of telling - the history of the Patriots essentially being disclosed in a rambling monologue by a man whose existence at that point in time is a retcon, the BB Corps backstory being told in shitty codec calls and so on and so forth. This issue is exacerbated by the ridiculous number of insanely long cutscenes, most of which do nothing to further anything but the frustration of anyone who actually liked the series before this entry
I haven't even played V yet because the direction the series took after 4 was so infuriatingly bad


And yeah this post is rambling and poorly written but that's because you don't deserve a well written response if you don't see what's wrong with MGS4

>>377690620
>MGS: VR Missions
What?
>the Metal Gear Solid HD collection. MGS2,3,
Not MGS1?

>>377690723
I like this post, anon. I feel mostly the same way.

I think Peace Walker was quite fun overall, which gave me hope that Kojima hadn't completely shat the bed, but then V was just Peace Walker but worse in almost every way so you're probably right not to play it.

I don't know why people are hoping somehow for a new Kojima MGS. He's clearly demonstrated he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing anymore. If Konami did take him back he'd just fuck it up again. Shit, MGR was probably a better MGS game than 4 or V. It might be a good thing if new devs with heads not quite so far up their own arses gave it a shot.

>>377686346
>he was actually complaining about not voicing Big Boss, who isn't solid Snake, so his complain were baseless?
he voiced big boss in mgs3
his complaints were baseless because he was complaining about not voicing a character that wasn't big boss

>>377691450
>but then V was just Peace Walker but worse in almost every way
I heard 5 was actually quite good...

>>377690723
You're not wrong but i don't think you give chapter 4 enough credit. How about when "the best is yet to come" started playing as you enter shadow moses or the rex vs ray fight? Yeah, it's pandering but I'd say it makes chapter 3 worth it.

So, as the final instalment in the series, does MGSV the Metal Gear saga?

>>377691660
>does MGSV the Metal Gear saga
Ye

But yeah it's the last canonical metal gear game.

>>377691660
>>377691897
I meant "Does MGSV do justice to the Metal Gear Saga, as its final game?"

>>377691287
>>MGS: VR Missions
>What?
In Metal Gear Solid 1, the tutorial is a set of 10 "Virtual Reality" training missions. Konami later came out with a PS1 game, "Metal Gear Solid: VR Missions," which has a set of 300 challenge missions, and a few extra things to unlock. It was sold as a stand-alone disc in North America, while it was bundled with the main MGS1 game in Europe and Japan, and was included in the PC port.

>>the Metal Gear Solid HD collection. MGS2,3,
>Not MGS1?
Correct. HD Collection is for PS3 & Xbox 360, and they didn't want to rework MGS1 for the 360. If you get MGS1 as part of the Legacy Collection, it's actually the original PS1 version that runs via the PS3's internal PS1 emulator.

>>377692339
>In Metal Gear Solid 1, the tutorial is a set of 10 "Virtual Reality" training missions.
Oh, okay, for a moment, I thought it was a literal VF goggle game.

>it's actually the original PS1 version that runs via the PS3's internal PS1 emulator.
Isn't the Gamecube Version better?

>>377692150
Diehard fans will say no but they're not wrong since it wasn't completely finished and also the narrative style is completely different from 1-4. It's not a bad game, I honestly put around 200 hours into it.

But yeah the characters aren't as strong and the open world kinda ruins what makes it "metal gear".

>>377691582
Well, lots of people think so, but lots of people thought 4 was good so I dunno man. It's got good core gameplay, really good, but the level and mission design is so bad you really only get to appreciate the game by dicking around and doing your own thing. The story is appalling and unfinished. I mean it's so bad that there's no final boss and the last mission is literally just a replay of the first level, complete with opening credit scenes and tutorials.

You spend like half the game waiting for shit to build or waiting for loading screens or travelling through empty areas that poorly mask the loading times. There's so much fucking waiting holy shit. There's almost none of the TECHNOLOGY the previous games were known for. Ocelot and Miller are both deeply bland and unlikable compared to previous versions of themselves. How do you even make Ocelot boring? Well, Kojima managed it here. They repeat themselves all the time as well on the radio which gets really annoying.

Venom is a shit protagonist who barely talks and has no notable personality which makes the shitty twist ending completely hollow and pointless. Mother base is an empty waste of time. Skull Face is such a laughably bad villain you actually start to feel embarrassed for him in the end. Code fucking Talker. Just everything about Code Talker.

God there's just so much I could complain about with V. It was such a gigantic waste of money and potential.

>>377692498
>Isn't the GameCube Version better?
hahaha... NO. Do NOT play The Twin Snakes unless you're doing it for laughs and only after you complete the original MGS1.
TTS should be considered a joke remake and nothing else.

>>377692498
>>it's actually the original PS1 version that runs via the PS3's internal PS1 emulator.
>Isn't the Gamecube Version better?

Debatable. It was made shortly after MGS2, so it has a similar level of graphics, but many people dislike the changes to some of the cutscenes, and importing some of MGS2's gameplay features into MGS1 made some parts really easy, such as hanging or being able to shoot in first-person view. Regardless, Konami wasn't going to pay to have someone port a Gamecube game to the PS3 when they could just include the PS1 version for very little cost.

>>377682586
Apparently you've never played a Metal Gear game ever.

didn't play HD/legacy versions. How do you switch controllers when you play with a wireless one in the first place?

>>377692782
You can hold the Home / Guide button and use the menu to switch which physical controller is seen by the system as number 1,2,3, or 4.

>>377692710
Not to mention they almost completely change the music for the worse and the voice acting, while better quality is actually worse in delivery.

You can tell the twin snakes was just "hey look at our new mocap technology and game engine!" A really cool idea to remake mgs1 but terrible execution.

>>377692643
It's superior though in every way

Don't cry because they made the autistic joke villain drop his guns once doing his dumb little spin trick

>>377693128
Depends if you value game play or narrative more.

>still no peace walker on PC
come on Konami, you just want to milk the franchise dry, so do it right

why does it take 177 fucking replies for someone to say PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME

>>377682586
big boss was his commanding officer

venom snake was in the base

but before the retcon this does actually make sense

>>377693227
It's the exact same story but with some backflips on some cutscenes

It's better gameplay

>>377693318
because that doesn't answer the question and people can enquire on a game they don't have the time to play immediately because of Real Life.

>>377682586
How are people this stupid? I've got complete normie friends who havent played any Metal Gear at all and they understand the difference between Snake and Big Boss

>Snake is the protag of metal gear solid, right?
>yes
>Who do you play as in 3 and 5?
>solid snake's father
>Oh, Okay

it's not that fucking hard, dude

MGSV=MGS2=MGS3>MGS1>MGS4>PEACEWALKER

boo hoo the story wasnt finished, v had the best gameplay and the best animations out of any videogame I've ever played. Get on my level scrubs

>>377682586
Solid snake is vemon,acelerated aging is bullshit, it was hypnotized by Ocelot again..

src: i'am Kojima.

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>>377682837
you play as Venom Snake, who was too busy not caring about Quiet, but during that BB was hiding out building Outer Heaven or some shit.

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>>377682837
You are big boss in MGSV but you aren't naked snake, you play as venom "punished" snake.
MGS5 isn't out yet :^)

I wish I had my big MGS folder on this computer. Someone post that comic where venom is killed in the events of MG it's really well done it's a vertical comic with lots of detail. Come on mgs duders you know the one I mean.

>>377696154
>Someone post that comic where venom is killed in the events of MG it's really well done it's a vertical comic with lots of detail
Isn't that done by the same artist who made that Wind Waker comic?

>>377686726

I'd say it's not worth playing since it wraps up the story so fucking badly you wish half the questions remained unanswered.

>>377685889

Dunno about Rising, I never played it, but MGS4 is one of the worst "games" I have ever played. Pure shit, literally an actually bad game, not just something I don't like, or a matter of taste, it's just downright fucking bad game design with bad mechanics and bad level design.

Also the story is garbage and almost retroactively ruins the entire series with it's retardation.

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>>377696154
faggot

Metal Gear?

>>377687715
Shit nigger this isn't rocket science.
Go look at the series in a chronological order, when you hit a new game a quick google search will tell you which is the best version to play.

>>377696556
>not just something I don't like, or a matter of taste,
Well, yea, it is, because:
>it's just downright fucking bad game design with bad mechanics and bad level design.
Is just wrong. The only fault is how short it is. Solid gameplay segments all cut too short.

>>377696650
That is nice, but figured it was Venom going rogue, so BB sent Snake to go take him out.

>>377682712
so technically ges big boss

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>>377696154
Holy shit, it's perfect.

>>377698651
>implying google can tell which version is best

>>377702658
Are you retarded, anon?

>>377702750
There will be divergent opinion on everything.
Best way to know which version will be "the best" for you is to ask recommendation from a group with similar taste to yours.

>>377703605
Which version is the best is an objective fact, not a subjective opinion.
You just ask which one has the best resolution, framerate and the most amount of content and that's it.

>>377704004
>Which version is the best is an objective fact, not a subjective opinion.
You'd be surprised. In this very thread, some are arguing the GC version of MGS1 is superior.
>You just ask which one has the best resolution, framerate and the most amount of content and that's it.
So you think the GC version of MGS1 is better?

Do you also think that the NES version of Metal Gear is the best, by the same logic?

>Solid Snake
>Liquid Snake
>Solidus Snake
>Venom Snake
>Big Boss

MGS is such a clusterfuck.
I can't imagine people praiseing it and yet they do.

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How canon is this

>>377705349

The inclusion of Venom Snake was actually pretty clever as it tied up the "plot hole" of Big Boss getting killed in Both MG1 and MG2.

>>377704775
>some are arguing the GC version of MGS1 is superior.
Duh.

>>377707000
It´s not a canon it´s an rpg2

>>377707147
There never was any "plot hole" because the post-credits scene of MG1 shows Big Boss swearing revenge on Solid.

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>be PCfag my entire life
>never ever touched a console
>decide to read up on the Metal Gear series because people always go apeshit over it
>mfw a few minutes into the lore

Who the hell wrote this.

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>>377708845
Who else could of wrote it?

>>377707229
kek

>>377685631
>stop sealioning.
Not only did you use that term only absolute retards use, you didn't even use it correctly. You really are a worthless piece of trash

I just came here to see how bad /v/ could describe the Bigboss family tree

What are Konami's plan, with the Metal Gear series?

Will they make a Metal Gear 3 with sprite arts that will be Free to play?

>>377686346
He voiced Big Boss in MGS3, Portable Ops, and Peace Walker

>>377690084
Not playing Peace Walker before V is a huge mistake, though it is true that Revengeance doesn't matter.

>>377714075
But was he demoted because he complained about the ending of MGS4?

>>377714290
No?