Fire Emblem Echoes:SoV

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>>377676775
Anyone else got their CE version of the game and Amiibos?

>>377676775
Remake is pretty much every I expected of a Gaiden remake, and I liked Gaiden so I'm loving Echoes.

>>377676902
>buying amiibos
My shilling only goes so far.

>>377676830
>awakening above anything
Please leave

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>>377676902
>sticker
it's fucking ruined

my amiibos should be coming in later today

>>377676775
>Characters are great.
>Dungeons are dope to explore.
>Music is incredible.
>Battles actually get pretty tense, at least in the early game. It's more like an RPG with positioning and low HP values than it is like a SRPG, in many ways.
However:
>lack of weapon triangle takes some adapting to
>promotion mechanics are a bit odd
>Mila's turnwheel is simultaneously really busted and not busted enough since you can't use it to reroll shitty level ups
>I swear everyone has terrible growths in this game, so many +1s, though at least there's the humor value of units complaining when they get a +1
>only one item slot seems a bit limiting
>Holy shit this Levin Sword destroys everything

>>377676830
Trashcan tier taste, I hope this is bait

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>>377676775
this series reminds me of this 200 hour 3 part epic

>>377677168
The weapon triangle is completely ignorable and basically a placebo in many FE games (and in 1-3 it just isn't there), people really overstate how important it is.

>Still haven't promoted Leon yet
>19 strength at level 16

At this point I just want to see how ripped he gets.

>>377677168
>>I swear everyone has terrible growths in this game, so many +1s, though at least there's the humor value of units complaining when they get a +1
Not a problem when the game is balanced around said growths.
That said, my Clair and Python somehow have been getting godly levels.

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>>377677139
That's not a sticker, that's a ticket stub for the new Wimpy Kid movie.
>>377676830
>hashtagFE
>mid tier

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>>377677415
Clair seems to get dope as fuck growths. I assume it's compensation for her starting out as UTTER GARBAGE. Grey has also been tearing it up, even before I gave him the Levin Sword.

>>377677331
Except it's still alive.

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>>377676830

> Awakening, God Tier

THE FUCK

>>377677428
You're right
it should be top

>>377677541
Shouldn't really be on the list at all, it's a Megaten game and not an SRPG.

>>377676830
Not only is this a shit-tier list, #FE isn't even a SRPG. Put it on a SMT tier list if anything.

>>377677384
the weapon triangle is part of the series' identity and adds a lot of depth when it's used right

>>377677384
It's pretty important in Fates since archers shit all over shuriken units and shuriken units shit all over mages. Also it's effectiveness goes up based on weapon level.

>>377677384
weapon triangle can be the difference between getting OHKO against a boss on certain difficulties

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Fucking Genny has gotten an Attack up every fucking Level up. She has the most fucking attack in my party. Bitch hits like a truck.

Do I get another chance at grabbing the Dracoshield? I'm on Chapter 2 of Echoes, and already dealt with the Dracozombies.

So since I'm sure this sold well, how long until GoHW gets a remake?

>>377677168
>Echoes
>unit positioning

>>377678081
>So since I'm sure this sold well
It didn't.

>>377678145
It was the biggest selling game in Japan in I think the month it came out.

>>377678145
Time for the west to save the day again.

>>377678145
But it did

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>>377678081

Won't happen. All of the FE games that have been remade were games that could have used an update in some form, that were all kinda dated even at the time they came out. Genealogy doesn't need an update, it was very ahead of its time. If anything Thracia will get a remake first.

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>Nomah is so weak, that even if he were to equip the Starsphere his growths would only be on part with everyone elses.

Can they stop making these characters who are weak as shit? At least give him passable bases if you don't want to give him good growths. I have a Boey around the same level and he's anywhere from 5-10 better in every single stat except resistance. I like his design, but his bases and growths make his so utterly unusable.

>>377678192
>>377678231
Less than half of what FE12 sold, though.

>>377677980
Yes.
It's even more bullshit to get than the first one.

>>377678360
>Genealogy doesn't need an update, it was very ahead of its time. If anything Thracia will get a remake first.
You've got that backwards, bro. Hell, even vanilla FE3's gameplay holds up better than 4.

It's more of a personal gripe, but I hate how basic the game feels in comparison to more modern FEs. No weapon triangle, no durability, only one item slot.

It's been pretty fun so far though, just feel they should've gone a bit more with remaking it.

>>377678514
So I should probably just reset my save in this case? Because a part of me wants to collect everything I can in the game, but then I never came up with a real strategy to grab the first Dracoshield.

>>377678619
They valued faithfulness to the original over updating it.

>>377678503
The difference is that they purposely had Echoes' sales projections low to begin with and it still managed to sell within projections.

>>377678641
Dracoshields are infinite. If you like to grind for Ragnarok Online tier drop rates.

>>377678619
Honestly Durability has always annoyed me.

>>377678619
I mostly just wish maps were better and that the map enemies didn't show up so damn much. I go to visit a damn village and bam, enemies right outside of it.

>>377678619
Why the fuck even make it a remake, then?

>>377678705

Durability doesn't annoy me, but durability and unique special weapons was always bullshit. Roy's godslayer sword should not have 20 uses before breaking, it should be infinite. Making Ragnell infinite use in PoR was the smartest thing they did as a start.

>>377678809
of unique*

>>377678641
You can actually forge the Dracoshield. The mats needed though have a low as fuck drop rate.

>>377678779
Because the original is a NES game that played like molasses. Still a decently fun game, but being on an un-fucked engine alone does wonders.

>>377678503
No? It sold 80% of its initial stock, meaning it will probably do as well as Nintendo expects it to. It got 132,000 in its first week, while FE12 got 136,000. So nearly equivalent.

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>>377676830
this is some spicy bait

>Playing the undub reveals half of the English script to be made up bullshit
I guess it doesn't matter does it

>>377678360
4 could actually use a remake. It's an interesting game but the UI is a bit clunky.

>>377678979

God is evil but not really, your dad is an asshole but a well-meaning one, you want to fuck the princess. It got right the shit that matters.

>People suddenly love shitty map design

>>377678619
>no durability
This is fine though. The no durability system in Fates and Echoes isn't really bad as one might expect.

>>377678809
No durability is only bad if the game spams weapon drops because that can be exploited to sell for mad dosh.

>>377679070
>suddenly
>awakening, birthright, and revelations are the most popular games in the series

>>377679070
Apparently if the story is good enough (or at least inoffensive enough), people can gloss over anything.

>>377679070
Disgaea and FFT are widely beloved series, anon.

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>>377679070

At least it's not the original where it was just 6 big maps and that was the whole game.

Yeah Genealogy did that too with 10 giant maps, but that actually made sense in that game because you were fighting a widescale war on multiple fronts, not a series of skirmishes.

Having fun, chose to kill Deen, waiting until my units can all promote together, over leveling like crazy

so does this new fire emblem game not have waifus? /v/ should be littered with fire emblem threads by now just like when awakening and fates came out.

or do people just not care too much about this one?

Where do I get gold marks?

>>377679325
There's been a thread up almost constantly since leak, what are you talking about?

>>377679325
>so does this new fire emblem game not have waifus?

It does, but it goes the oldschool way where all the the pairings are pre-determined by the story, not the player

>>377679325
You've been living under a rock the past week?

>>377677518
For better or worse.

>>377676775
I want a patch for physical Echoes, there's an undub .cia but I own the cart so being able to play it undub on my current save would be sweet.

>>377679147
>birthright, and revelations
>popular
No one really likes these games. They are only sort of fun because of Fates gameplay mechanics and dynamic music. Awakening got a pass because of its cast. Echoes is getting a pass because of its story. People will gloss over any shitty thing about a game if they like something else about it.

>>377679305
>waiting until my units can all promote together

Don't bother, only Alm and Celica are worth actually getting to 20. The rest you should just promote when able to.

>>377679286
>giant maps
>each giant map had its own music going on
>the entirety of chapter 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz-dsq46Gbs

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This game is weird. I know it's objectively inferior to Fire Emblems to come after Gaiden. I know the game's really simple in mechanics and not very deep. And I even know this plot is not very intricate, nor are the characters really all that expertly written.

And I'm somehow enjoying this more than Awakening and Fates. I know the maps are boring or just plain annoying, but it's somehow not really deterring me all that much. Something about this game keeps pulling me in to keep making progress on it.

>>377679325
if you want me to go into detail about the weird shit I want the clerics to do to me that badly, I will

>>377679482
You know you can import saves, right? Use JKSM save manager to export a save, get the undub CIA and import the save into it.

You can't patch a cart, they're read only I'm pretty sure.

>>377678112
?

>>377679549

If you've only got 10 maps, you damn well better give each map its own song

>>377679396
I never said threads were completely non-existent. they just arent as plentiful compared to the previous FE game threads.

sorry for triggering you.

>>377679552

Alm is just such a nice guy

>>377679594
wasn't the If/Fates fan translation usable with a cart?

>>377679552
it's comfy, feels like playing a Shining Force game kinda

>>377679594
How can the be read only if you can save and copy data on them? If you can export saves from .cia to a cart that would be work too.

>>377679752
The Fates fan translation was barely usable on a cia.

>>377679389
Certain enemies drop them and some chests have them. You can farm them in the chapter 6 dungeon bur it's unreliable.
Your other option is to use the DLC.

>Mostly only ever heard bad things about Gaiden
>"How bad can it really be?"
>Start Echoes
>"Okay the maps are pretty lame but I dont have any other real complaints so far"
>Chapter 3
>The fucking desert section
>90% of the map is lol you can only walk one space at a time
>The main boss map is no one hits anything ever while the boss infinitely spawns reinforcements

I'm convinced anyone who doesn't think this game is trash hasn't gotten to act 4.

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Berkut's voice acting is 10/10

>>377680019

He is just SO fucking butthurt about Alm.

>>377680019
Is it Liam o brian?

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>>377677198
>>377677059
>>377677536
>>377678963
>Fire Emblem Awakening being good
>automatic bait

>>377679971

Well I beat the NES version.

>>377679837
I think saves are the only exception to the read only part. Like, for game updates you have to have an SD Card because the data is written to the SD, not the Game Card because it's ROM.

>>377679936
>lol let's give mages only 4 Move, that'll be fun
>Celica literally have 1 movement in desert
Don't worry, there's plenty more bad map design.

>>377680109
How's Fernand in the English version? Does he emote "COMMONERS REEEEEE" well?

>>377680171

Ian Sinclair.

>>377680214
I haven't gotten very far, but the first sign of Fernand has him spouting 'low born, peasants, commoners' and I'm pretty sure at least one or two others.

>>377680204
yes ye we get it, you have shit taste.

>>377680204
there's far more wrong with it than that, SS should not be in the top tier either and you only included the western released games

>>377680209
I'm so sorry.

>>377680414

It wasn't as painful as beating Thracia

is it worth getting silque to level 18 for invoke?

>>377680459
Thracia is the good kind of pain.

>>377680532

Yeah but it throws far more bullshit at you.

>>377680523
I think it carries over if you promote. So you'll still learn it as a Saint. Don't quote me on that though.

>>377680532
Nah. The bad translation, U glitches, and lots of poorly implemented new mechanics can really drag it down.

>>377679601
There's no need for strategy in this game. You can place units almost everywhere and they fuck shit up regardless.

>>377676830
Now this is some bait

Are we ever gonna get a remake with the one with Seliph?

>>377680781

That's Genealogy, and we don't know.

>>377680781
>FE Echoes director Kenta Nakanishi says if he could choose what FE game to remake next, he'd pick FE Binding Blade
>Nintendo hasn’t announced any further remakes for the future — but if Nakanishi had to pick, he knows what game he’d choose. “Unfortunately his story has never been told,” he says of Roy, “so it would be great if we could release a remake of his story.”

Source: https://twitter.com/theprinceofiris/status/866492145661771776


probably not for a long-ass time

>>377680961
Well Binding Blade could probably use a remake.

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Im really hype for over classes. They look badass as fuck.

>>377680961
>Roy
As long as they actually rework all of the shit-ass mechanics of FE6 instead of half assing it like in Echoes.

>Sophia and Cecilia are your new faces on the Desert, Fog of War, Time limited map.
>Sophia is completely worthless and must be carried for a Guiding Ring
>Cecilia is barely usable but is a horse in the desert.

>GBA Support mechanics
>100 Turns for A Rank

>Breakable Legendarry weapons = whoops sorry no true ending

I could go on.

>>377681002
>>377680961
Oh im hyped. That game was brutal in the beginning though. Something tells me they'll remove arena and hideen shops to shill their dlc

>>377681152
they better make thieves promote-able in a FE6 remake I swear to god

>>377681152
how is SoV half assed? are you asshurt that there isn't a self insert MU

>>377681152
ISIS is fucking retarded when it comes to remakes so you better not expect any of that.

>>377681293
No, I hate the maps. For all the fixing they did of certain game mechanics like making some stuff less broken (speed ring), there's still shit like the desert and swamp maps.

I couldn't care less about the MUs. They're nice for having a flexible character build, but that's about as far as I care. Thanks for jumping to conclusions though.

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>>377681152
I expect supports getting retooled at the very least and that's about it.

>>377676830
>Awakening in God tier, Sacred Stones not in mid-tier
>Birthright not in low tier
And where the hell are the rest of the real FE games?

>>377681421
there's literally nothing wrong with the maps

>>377681494
Said the awakening baby.

how are the Pegasus sisters?what are there stats like and whos generally better or the best of the 3?

>>377681537
what was that about jumping to conclusions?

>>377681152
The only thing I'm terrified of when it comes to a FE6 remake is instant reinforcements. Seriously, IS is so inconsistent with this mechanic that I wouldn't be surprised if they brought it back, even if it's super shitty. If they remake FE6, I imagine they'll fix a lot of things besides that bullshit.

>>377681559
which chapter do you get them, and which one has the best ass?

>>377681494
Because slowly walking through a desert at a rate of 1 move because IS thought it was funny to give all the Mages 1 move is fun.

Or Alm's next big adventure in the empty plains.

>>377681537 isn't me, fyi.

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>>377681494
Awakening has better gameplay. Fucking Awakening.

>>377681152
>>377681463
>PoR style supports, builds based on'number of maps units have fought together on, you can support inbetween maps and when the 'imminent victory' music is playing/anytime during the last boss battle
(Last bit is mostly just to make getting Renault and OldKarel's supports feasible)

That'd be enough for me, honestly. The average player never used GBA supports because they're hidden behind having to understand the system's there and then spending 100 turns waiting.

>>377681559
Palla and Catria can be recruited soon after Chapter 3 starts. Est is halfway through chapter 3.

Palla is the bulkiest, but not by much. Her speed is mediocre and strength is OK.

Catria is faster, but slightly more fragile.

Est is shit, because she comes at level 3 and way too late. If you grind her she'll be fairly fast and hit decently hard if the growths favor you.

Overall, Catria > Palla > Est.

Palla's slight bulk advantage doesn't matter a smidge, because she's so slow she just gets doubled.

>>377681975
>tfw I got Est before Catria and Palla

Oops.

>>377681975
where is est? I think
I missed her, and can you still get her at ch 4? at sluice gate with alm and just got to temple of mila and still haven't found est

At least with a FE6 remake idiots can stop trying to claim haremshit started with Awakening.

>>377682062
I actually also missed Catria and Palla for a bit because I was on the Jap version so I couldn't read and realise they just went to the town.

>>377682062
Est is in Grieth's HQ. The Dread Fighter Bandit Lord dude. She's in one of the cells.

>>377682048
Whoops, I mean to reply to you for the first sentence in >>377682185.

>>377681774
I'm not going to defend Echoes and its dumb maps but Awakening was some dumb shit. I mean, I enjoyed it to an extent but it's a game that actually got easier by using only two units.

>Mae becoming a Priestess is faster and more powerful with a sword than trained swordfighters

Wew.

what level should I promote saber to a dread fighter? near the end of chapter 3 and he's almost a level 12 myrmidon

>>377682578
If you want to take advantage of those hot Dread Fighter attributes earlier, then sooner. Dread Fighters get 7 Movement, +5 Resistance and also halve magic damage received innately.

On the other hand, if you think Saber can pull some useful level ups in the next few you could wait.

>>377682676
my saber is fairly strong as is
38 hp, 14 attack, 12 skill, 19 speed, 11 luck, 14 defense, 8 resistance (after feeding the one or two fountains with resist I found on Celica's route

>>377682867
attack is technically 22 since I have a 3 star steel sword on him right now

is all the wine and ale you get useful for anything at all? or should i just sell them all for silver at the smithy?

>>377676830
Besides that this list might be bait, I gotta agree soo badly regarding Fates: Revelations being utter shit. I didnt even finish that crap and I was only a couple chapters away from doing that, but I simply couldnt help myself.

What were they thinking when they released this whole parallel story scam?

>>377682867
Wow, that attack is kind of low. But his speed is so high you can just slap a powerful weapon on.

I would personally promote him unless you really care about getting the maximum amount of levels out of it. Dread Fighter's innate traits are simply that good.

>>377682970
If you offer it at Mila's altar you restore all Turn Wheel uses in a dungeon. Otherwise just sell since they sell for a decent amount. Ram Wine is used for 1 quest in the first village..

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I actually kind of like this promotion system over the newer ones. This feels like there's an actual choice in deciding when to promote. Do you take the quick and easy stats while the getting's good, or do you risk wasting time leveling up more in hopes of getting some extra +1s in a few stats that the class change might not cover.

>>377682390
Echoes has the same problem. Lots of FE games have that problem.

>>377683124
i gave the man in the first village and all i got was renown does he still want more after or nah? alright tho seems a lot better to just sell all my wine and shit then

>>377676902
Didn't buy CE, but I did preorder the amiibos... They still haven't arrived at my house, fucking GameStop.

>>377683342
Just once, all he gives is renown. Renown, by the way, is worthless as far as I can tell. It seems to only be used to decide what your online title is. Which is pointless because you can farm points from enemy spawns anyway so the paltry amount you get from quests is pointless.

>>377683329
The games do have a problem with excessively strong units, I won't argue that. But most of them don't actively gimp you for not using your main broken unit all the time. Have you tried using a balanced, evenly leveled team on Awakening Lunatic? Shit sucks.

how the fuck do I get past the gargoyles

>>377683978
Which ones? Just put someone with enough defense to draw them, then have everyone else blow them up.

Or if you mean the Swamp, use the Whitewings to draw them away.

>>377684047
the one at the temple, I had genny setting up illusions but one of the gargoyles got past the illusions and killed her, need to grind celica's side a bit though, still 600 rating when I'm 1000+ on alm's side

>>377684153
Have you defeated Grieth yet? Having the Whitewings can make that bit easier since the Whitewings can duel the Gargoyles and open the door from the inside.

>>377684431
no, I went to the temple first and atlas went back to the village

>>377676902
When do they come out? I tried on game release, but they didn't have any and the cahier gave me a confused look.

>>377684493
If you haven't already recruited Palla and Catria, do so. They're back at the village next to Zofia. Much like Atlas, they'll leave your team if you try to go to the Temple of Mila without defeating Grieth. You're kind of supposed to defeat Grieth first anyway, because you can't progress at the temple I don't think.

So I'd recommend you go back, get Palla and Catria if you don't have them and then head east.

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tfw you keep missing attacks with 85% of accuracy

It's not fun

>>377684559
They should be out. I saw them at Toys R Us at least.

>>377684601
this is on Celica's side right?
>>377684652
is this your first FE?

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>>377684652
>tfw landing a 57% to hit nosferatu

I don't know what can count as "clutch" in Fire Emblem, but that was pretty close.

>>377684703
Yes, it's on Celica's side.

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>>377676775
>reversible cover
Wait what? Mine doesn't have that

>>377684703
No, I don't remember having this much of a bad luck in RD

>>377684778
I have missed 90~99% hit chances before

>>377684764
only came with special editions i think

>>377684831
Well shucks, ah well

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>>377684652
>>377684728
>tfw Lukas crits three times in a map with 8 crit
This man is fucking based and I hope he'll serve me well in the long haul.

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I haven't been able to play much, just reached the second battle for Celica, but here are my thoughts so far
>Immediately more invested than fates and awakening, but this could be sunken cost
>holy shit my circle pad pro actually has a use again
>Mae is a bitch
>almost everyone seems to hate each other based on c supports so far.
>magic system is weird but flavorful. I particularly like how clerics ping themselves to heal while also having nosferatu on their kit to heal themselves back up
>Mae is a bitch
>No VA or character comes off as offensive to me except for the somewhat nasal voice on Clive and everything about Mae
>Castle retake in Alm's first act I felt like I was cheesing it, but couldn't think of a better way to do it. Plop down Knight Lukas on the stairwell on the left and just chip away at everyone. Shit took like 53 turns
>God damn I hate Mae so much but she's such a good unit so far

>>377684654
That's a shame then. Didn't have them at GS or Frys. Ill check amazon then, but last time i ordered an amiibo from them it came dented and bent

>Alm gets all sorts of shitters like Clive and Forscythe
>Celica gets gods like Saber and Kamui

I played Gaiden before and holy fuck I forgot how RNG dependant Chapter 4 was

>that first swamp level on Celica's route where you have to consistently take 5 damage while facing a dread fighter and mages
>Alm vs the witch conjurer with a huge army who rush you

Thank god for Mila's turnwheel otherwise I would have dropped this shit

>>377685294
Mae isn't a bitch, she just hates Boey (and I hate him to) she secretly has a crush on him and it's just Faye who actually does hate everyone, except for Alm. What supports did you even have besides what I guessed?

>>377685458
I've seen Tobin/Kliff, Gray/Clair, Faye/Silque, and the oddball so far is Alm/Clair.

Also why are the 2D cutscenes so wooden?

>>377679936
Oh boy, anon, boats and desert maps aren't even that bad when compared to SWAMP MAPS that are coming up in the next chapter.

>>377685583
I actually never used cliff, so i have no idea what that even is. Didn't grey and claire flirt in their C support though?

>>377685376
>shitters
>Forscythe

Damn boy, I am sorry for your loss. I gave my Forscythe the ridersbane and he became a god among men. His speed is fucking nutty for an armored knight, and his defenses rival Lukas's

>>377685294
Mae and Boey just like arguing with each other, Mae is nice to everyone else.

Their ending even mentions that they are happiest when bickering with each other in Gaiden.

>>377682483
>getting the lady sword
>brave attack that targets res

Does anyone know if Mae and Sonya get the same palettes when they promote? I hate having repeats of palettes

Currently going through Duma Tower, which is long as fuck. How are the act 5 maps? The desert and swamp maps were already painful enough to go through

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>Celica gets like 5 fucking Mercs in her route 6 if you don't want Sonya
so fucking many.

I want Sonya to step on me

>>377686179
>Alm really could use some Mercs
>Gets none outside of villager promotions
>Celica gets 4 Mercs and a villager who is good for promoting to Merc

who makes best use of the shadow sword? just got it on celicas route

>>377684652
Pretty sure they changed the true hit formula since Fates, so the percentage you see is decently close to the true hit value.

>>377686497
You're probably best off upgrading it into a Brave Sword, which only uses silver marks which is nice. Or you can upgrade it to an Ilwoon which I think has good skills.

>>377686169
You mean Alm's? From what I can remember from when I played a month ago, they're somewhat annoying, but not in the saame way that Celica's maps are. They're mostly buildings you have to take the long way to get around and in. Or alternatively, you use Silque to warp cheese. Which you should.

After Alm's maps are just dungeons. So many dungeon.

Post-game is shit. If you dislike Duma's Tower, heh, just wait you'll love the post-game dungeon.

>Alm leads a team of mediocre units and a small equipment pool and charges at the enemy
>Celica has a team of ludicrously good units and a huge equipment pool including multiple brave swords

>>377685376
>tfw my Saber and Kamui kinda suck
>but Mae is an absolute goddess

My Mae has even been getting absolute shit levels and she's still raping everything, someone stop her.

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Classic or Casual?

>>377687175
Classic of course

>>377685101
Lukas is fucking great my dude

Is the Falchion of Echoes the same one Marth has? Mila mentions that the sword was made from one of Naga's fangs and that it was given to Duma for future use.

>>377688015
Both are made from a Naga fang each, but there are two swords.

>>377681092
is this the dlc where I have to pay $14.99 for overclass shrines? $14.99 for extra, completely unnecessary classes?

>>377682071
But Roy was an MU like Robin and Corrin!

Apparently they added post-battle mourning quotes for when you win but lose units in this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--76tTcsyOU
Fire Emblem Echoes: Prepare to Cry Edition

>>377689970
neat

but what kind of retard would let Celica die?

>>377690525
Fayefags

So why is Celica so hated again? She seems just about the same as Eirka. Even Alm also fell into Nuibaba's obvious trap, but falling into that trap didn't have any disastrous consequences.

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>>377689970
>Boey's Mourn for Mae
A lot of these are well acted. I guess the strike really did up the quality.

>Celica had to instigate conflict and murder everyone who stood in her way JUST TO MAKE IT TO ZOFIA CASTLE
>throws a bitch fit because Alm was forced to lead a war in defence of his contry

This fucking bitch, I hope she gets better later on

just got the CE in the mail. This shit is bigger than the odin sphere CE.

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>>377690896
>people hate Celica
>>377690992
fuck you too

>>377690992
>murder everyone

Pirate assholes who attacked her first, and were ravaging the sea to the point that no one wanted to sail anymore.

>>377687175
Casual, fuck trying to keep everyone alive with growths this low and terrible maps

>>377691128
So what's the difference between them and invading Rigel soldiers then?

Faye is shit

>>377691881
Rigel Soldiers are commanded by asshole subcommanders to take over towns and whatnot. Pirates and Bandits kill and pillage whoever. Rudolf made sure that when he invaded Mila's tower that none of the clerics there were hurt by his men.

Do we get any playable witches?

>>377676830
What is so bad about Revelations? I have gotten 2/3rds through and other than the can't mention Valla, the story is not even remotely as retarded as Conquest.

>>377692454
No, fuck you.

>>377692454
The two witch units you pick up become mages instead, but pick up rewarp later as a sub in for the bullshit teleportation skill. It's significantly less broken, but makes up for the garbo 4 movement a lot.

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>>377689970
>Est's post-mourn
I WAT TO HUG AND COMFORT HER

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>>377680961
>Binding Blade instead of the Jugdral games
Noooo

>>377677415
It makes fighting certain enemies a slog if you get RNG screwed hard enough.

>>377680523
>>377680632
it does, there's literally no reason to not promote immediately in SoV

>>377680214
>>lol let's give mages only 4 Move, that'll be fun
>>Celica literally have 1 movement in desert
>Don't worry, there's plenty more bad map design.

They aren't slow down by terrain unless it's desert tiles. Kek.

>>377679971
Shills pretend they like this game because they believe IS will remake 4 and somehow not fuck it up like they do every other remake.

>>377680961
On the plus side, Cecilia is a quality waifu.

On the minus side, it's fucking Binding Blade and the only fun part of it is fighting "the sick and elderly" Godwood.

>>377681092
Eh, I don't want to Overclass, it uses generic models when all the in-game classes use unique palettes.

People already beat Postgame Hard without DLC anyway.

>>377692602
The map gimmicks they tried in Revelation don't actually add anything to the gameplay and only end up wasting turns.

Most of the characters' base stats were taken from the other routes, making some of them underpowered or completely useless. The worst example is probably Nyx who joins as a level 9 Dark Mage in the same chapter Shura joins as a level 10 Adventurer.

It also suffers from the same problems as Birthright in a lot of maps with Route the Enemy objectives, a lack of chokepoints, and enemies that are too weak even on Lunatic.

>>377692602
I'm guessing the balancing and Royal shilling.

>>377676995
Yeah, I guess you wull just display those OTHER Alm and Celica figures... Which were those again?

>>377680732
Yeah, we'll see what happens when a unit with any amount of attack gets a hold of Mae or Silk.

>>377680961
On the plus side, an Echoes remake could fix Binding Blade's many problems like Roy being fucking boring, maybe more supports so it isn't Roy's Harem Emblem, and allowing Roy to promote so he isn't useless for half the game.

It will probably sell well in the West even if they don't change anything because Smash memes.

>>377677168
>Holy shit this Levin Sword destroys everything
It won't once you pass the halfway point.

>>377677168
Lightning Sword is useful until the Mathilda rescue map, afterwards enemies start having much more res.

>>377677508
I madd Grey an Archer in Gaiden, and repeated it here. The man knows no chill.

>>377676775
>you are using the reversible cover right?
Oh shit. I didn't even know that was a thing.

>What do you like about the remake
The presentation is great, and the new character designs are well-done. I like how it looks quite a lot. I'm not that far in, though. Just got to the southern outpost.

>Gray got 2 +HP level ups only
This man needs to step it up.

>>377678619
Durability wouldn't work with how weapons worm in Gaiden. They are modifiers for your unit's always present attack. They could just be called "attack rings" and function the same. It is all about building a character for a role. They should often stick with one weapon or item for a long time, and the addition of weapon skills make that even more apparent and rewarding.

>>377695813
Then you just just using the close range art that bypasses the 15 attk rule. Although I suppose you start getting really good shit like the brave sword so it's kinda moot outside of fucking knights

Also holy shit why is Clive such a shitter, his waifu only gained a few levels in comparison and she's so much better than him it's embarrassing

>>377677168
>lack of weapon triangle takes some adapting to
If you've ever played the first 3 games or Shadow Dragon on Hard or above, there is nothing to adapt to.

>Terrible growths
You should be used to this if you've played FE6.

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>>377689970
>Est and Boey
Just fuck my shit up

>>377680214
The dub and localisation are fantadtic. Mae and Grey are a bit iffy, but well enough delivered that I can't be upset about it. And we get some great lines.

>"I should rip your traitorous tongue from your throat!"
>"Then you would finally have the truth in your grasp!"

Or Slayde claiming the food and water from Ram would be like "horse piss and pig slop".

So if Lukas or Clive dies will they show up later on in the story?

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So i just got the CE, since they don't send packages on saturdays and sundays where i live.
Anything i should know before jumping in? Is the difficulty still piss easy?

>>377684652
Welcomr to FE Gaiden, the only game where you miss more often than Daggerfall.

>>377691845
>blames maps for being shit at unit placement

>>377680019

his voice actor is a huge nerd who just talks about dragonball on twitter all day
i love him

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>>377696964
To be fair, he's Whis.

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>Those swamp levels

Who the fuck thought those were okay?

>you convoy has limited space
Why

How did a beta male like Clive land Mathilda?

>>377698389
>implying Mathilda wasn't the one doing the pursuing

>>377676775
Freeshop

>>377683316
I've never seen somebody so wrong before. Stat gains in SoV/Gaiden only go up to the level you'd get by promoting them anyway, so there's literally no reason not to promote immediately.

>>377699178
It promotes to the classes caps eventually?

Any help deciding classes?

>>377676775
>Implying I didnt hack my 3DS and downloaded for free

Lol who buys physical games on 3ds? Good game btw

>>377699402
I'm not sure what you mean, but the way it works is like this. Say promoting from soldier to knight gives you +4 HP, any levels up as soldier can only give you a maximum of that 4 HP that you'd get from promoting anyway, and when you finally did promote it'd just make up the difference (zero) and give you nothing.

>>377685294
>mae is a bitch
Delet this cunt, Mae is a precious cinnamon roll. She's just genki is all

>that cutscene at the beginning of act 3 where clive and fernand clash on their horses
That gave me chills for some reason. Even though it looked kinda awkward and jerky, I really liked how they made a cutscene with the 3D models, rather than a CG cutscene or a standard 2D dialogue conversation. Really lets the fully voiced dialogue shine too, even though I don't like Clive's voice that much. I hope there's more of it to come.

>>377680961
If they combine it with Blazing Sword to make a single game where you could give Roy his parent's stats, that would be great.

>>377678360
I don't fet why people are using that image as something negative. Overall rhat map is very easy, few of those enemies are really threatening and the roaming boss is fairly weak.

Hard part is getting the Dragon Lance but you fan simply Warp -> Dance -> Rescue.

>Reversible cover
AWW SHIT. Nice callback.

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>>377677594
>it's a Megaten game
Wrong.

>>377700447
Clive's voice is just a bit too wooden. I know some people are smooth operators and all, but he sounds way too calm when Fernand is grabbing him during the scene where he leaves the Deliverance. He does get some decent acting later in that scene though, so I guess he's not all bad.

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Playing Echoes and loving it so far.
But i must choose between Sonya or Deen in Celica's "compaing".
Who's better and why?

THESE GROWTHS SUCK DICK HOLY SHT I'VE NEVER HAD A +3 AND EVERYONE HAS HIT AT LEAST LEVEL 5

>>377700828
Some will tell you Deen just because Dread Fighter and because Sonya was nerfed/other mages were buffed, but it's more that he starts out better because his high bases. Their max stats are about the same and she also starts with Excalibur as well as being able to learn Warp and a unique spell Entrap, which give you a lot of positioning options.

In other words just pick who you like better.

>>377699521
Anyone?

>>377699521
>>377701150
What, for villagers?
Kliff mage
Faye cleric
Tobin archer
Gray merc

>>377698389
Mathilda likes to dominate and Clive is a submissive beta, it's a match made in heaven.

>Celica's final Chapter 3 map with the mass gargoyle summoning

NOW I remember why I hate Gaiden so much. Does anyone have any tips for that map?

>>377676775
Wait this is out? did they just not market it at all in the UK or something? I had no idea it was even close to release

>>377701220
Thanks

>>377680961
Pretty sure that's his wallet speaking.

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>Celica gets 4 Mercs because Atlas is only good as a Merc, 5 Mercs if you get Deen
>mfw Gray is my only Merc on Alms party

>>377701483
I used the archer to kill the archer, then the mage, and then the summoner. Of course make sure he's a sniper.

>>377701483
Try to lure the mage and the snipers to the door so you can nuke them with ranged attacks.
Don't just spam invoke, unless you can't protect squishies. It's better to have dread fighters and such deal with the gargoyles.
The snipers on the left stay still until you are in range, but the mages start moving in a group.

>>377685294
t. Boey

>tfw you mistook Gray for Boey due to FE Heroes and promoted him into a mage

>>377701802
>Tfw gave Leon all the EXP and promoted him to Bow Knight

>>377701915
No Dread Fighters yet, if need I will go train my Myrms up a bit.

>got devil axe
Ok?
Who the fuck can use this, though?

>>377702502
No one. There's no axe users in the game.

>>377702535
Yeah what the fuck, I'm on act 3 and there hasn't been a single axe unit. Literally the first item I got in the game was the splitting axe from Ram Village, so I was expecting there to be at least one

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>>377685294
>53 turns
I can't

>>377702434
Leon is so fucking goat it's rediculous. I don't know how people say archers suck in echoes, they feel required at times to deal with all the enemy snipers and their accuracy isn't bad(except for python it seems)

>>377703002
If you want that shield that's how long it's going to take.

>The game has become to tedious that I'm just throwing allies at enemies and pressing start

Is this how Telliusfags felt when playing Awakening? That's how I'm feeling right now.

>>377703005
Dlc of course!

>>377679286
>At least it's not the original where it was just 6 big maps and that was the whole game.
Uh, what? The maps are exactly the same, just prettier. It's only the dungeons that had major changes.

>>377679325
It actually has pretty good waifus and husbandos, but there's no self-insert and the protagonists are a canon pairing. About a third of the cast is also in a canon pairing.

>>377703189
What does dlc have to do with what I'm saying?

>>377689970
The death quotes are pretty good too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd_Fff6K_Gw

>>377703002
Can't... can't what, dumblr?

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Fire Emblem Echoes: Chad Gaiden

I'd buy it

I'm at Act 3 and need some better ways to grind. I bought the DLC like a good shill if that helps.

>>377703161
Well at least theres a simplified auto battle so you don't have to do it yourself.

>>377700853
"Shut up drill. Echoes is clearly amazing."

>>377701713
Alm's route is slightly harder than Celica's route. She gets way too much good shit on a route full of magic users and monsters.

>>377704540
Has all the DLC been dumped yet?

>>377681671
They're all ass, which is actually almost incredible considering how they were fucking broken in Gaiden with only a few indirect changes.
>everyone else being buffed more
>effective damage being nerfed
>anti-flier damage actually existing
>angel ring is no longer retarded, please buy starsphere dlc instead
>triangle attack is now a gamble instead of a free ticket to crit city

>>377692454
This game changes Witches to be practically Terror-tier level of sentience, so no, no playable witches. They tried to make up for it a little by giving the two ex-ex-witches Rewarp, though.

>>377704841
Only the first 3 maps are out(silver marks, exp, and astral temple dungeon). The exp map is stupid because the enemies run straight for the exits and have more movement than most of your units. So, unless you can one-shot them, it's terrible for grinding.

>>377704540
For now just grind in the astral temple or whatever. The exp is better than the grinding one(since right now you'd only have access to the low level grinding spot) and you'll get star shards or whatever, which typically provide a cumulative 40% boost to growth rates. I haven't tried the money dlc yet but it could be decent too.

>>377704748

Celica's route is way more annoying than Alm's route though,

>>377705162
Only if you don't get Seraphim before the first altar

>>377701418
And all it take is Clive calling her a War Maiden and she cums on the spot and the roles are switched

>>377705281
>He hasn't played the swamp and desert map

>>377704748
Alm's route is honestly easier even though he has the Deliverance losers instead of Celica's Dread Fighter Dream Team Supreme. Much less bullshit swamp/ desert/ forest maps and summoning shenanigans.

>>377705778
>Clive gets turned on by Mathilda being stronger than him
>Mathilda gets turned on by Clive worshiping her

Now that I think about it, they really do have some weirdly sexual interactions in the game.

>>377706008
Being annoying doesn't make it hard.

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>Not a single axe user
>Celica's harem of mercenaries
For what purpose

>>377706446
Lord Kaga decreed that only villains should use Axes.

>>377706170
True. It's a damn lot more fun, at least. Alm's route is what Gaiden needs, good maps, not summon and terrain bullshit.

So what do I do with Atlas? He seems to be least shit as a mercenary but there's already Saber and Kamui so I don't really need another one.

>>377706616
Might as well make him a Merc, it fixes his speed.

These stat growths make me really question how hard the endgame will fuck me. Only Kliff, Faye, Clair and Mathilda are getting good level ups. On Celica's side, her, Mae, Genny and Leon. Kamui and Clive have been the biggest disappointments so far. Followed by Boey and Atlas.

I think I'm still too used to Awakening and Fates growth rates.

>>377706846
Promotion bases mostly cover stat screw ups, don't worry too much about it.

>>377706616
Not only do you have Saber and Kamui, but you also get one or two other mercs later, both of whom are better than Atlas. Just make him an archer to keep him out of trouble until you can bench him

Enemy mages are a serious threat, holy shit. Why is Resistance so low in Echoes?

Speaking of which, maxing out stats is impossible nor is it necessary, right?

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>mfw the game hasn't raised my characters RES. Fighting mages is gonna be a fucking nightmare. My asshole clenches when a fucking witch teleports near my group.

>>377707348
>impossible
You can infinitely loop
>do you need to
I don't think so

>>377707414
well i fucked up my green text

>>377707641
Great job faggot

>>377676902
>diary of a wimpy kid

>>377680204
Awakening is like the Undertale of the series, it's an okay title but it makes everyone mad because it is popular

>>377707414
>Mfw my Bow Knight Kliff/ Leon one shots a witch the second she tries to close in

>>377707414

Step1 : Kill Desaix('s body double)
Step 2: Gank the Dracoshield

RES problems? What RES problems?

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>>377707873
It makes people mad because it's a shitty game that's popular whose fans try to excuse its flaws by stating it saved the series.

>>377677331
What game?

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>Celica's team gets ambushed on the map
>Genny is dead

Well fuck this.

>>377708856
>letting your sheep die
You're an awful person use the rest optIon to get them to move. Although it does carry the risk of spawning more fucks, summonses being the worst

>>377708856
Does this character even have a personality or is it just there as a token healer.

>>377709039
She wants an older man who will take care of her.

>>377709039

She is a gentle sheepu who exists for headpats.

>>377706846
Kamui and Saber are basically living gods in my game.nearly took out entire maps during our trek through the desert. The Pegasus sisters are literally garbage for me though. I feel like they need weapons to equip but I havent found anything to give them other than a javelin

>>377709286
She's ready to roll.

>>377709312
I like to take the steel lance from Zofia castle, instead of letting Alm take it

>>377709039
She's a fairly gentle and quiet individual who doesn't like being alone and is resentful of her mother for being abandoned by her. She would rather read about adventures than be on one, and she likes older men. That's all I got.

>>377709039
Officer Genny only heals as a side-gig, she specializes in monster extermination and generally fucking shit up.

She gets the really fucking short end of the stick compared to all of the other initial party members, yeah. In addition to what >>377709598 said, she likes writing and specifically likes older men because she enjoys the idea of being protected.

>>377709036
>Tfw have the Waifuwings rush map summoners

>>377709598
Which is more than enough! I like her design anyway. Clean and simple!

>>377707873
Except Awakening came first? I'd say it's more akin to FFXIII

>>377710053
Yeah that's always nice when it's an option. Yesterday I had a summoner block me on giefs fort or whatever his name is and it was a massive pain in the ass since it took like 8 turns to reach the fucker. the white wings were still relatively weak, preventing me from just rushing him. There were like 28 fucking skeletons on the field by the time I reached him. thank god for expel

So, what's the point of renown?

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What was this guy even introduced for? I feel like they wanted him to be a male Lucina or something, but I think the only effect his introduction had is making sure nobody picks Cavalier for Atlas.

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>>377710190
She is also lewd!

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Who should I give the +20 Luck RIng? Zeke?

>>377710426
If you used those memory logs, you can make an educated guess on who it is

>>377710874
I gave it to Clair because she kept raising Speed and Luck

>>377710426
That's by husbando, fuck off.

>>377708856
So do I pick Faye or her? Or do I never have to choose as the two armies are separate?

>>377710415
Get a nifty little title on your streetpass card.

>>377711372
They're separate for the whole game until the last battle and chapter 6 when they combine.

>>377707873
>Awakening is like the Undertale of the series
Last time I checked Awakening was praised to the high heavens for its accessibility and damned for the influx of casuals it caused to take an interest in the series because of how accessible it was, not "OMG BEST GAME IN THE FRANCHISE, ROBIN AND CHROM ARE GAY IN MY HEADCANON, TOP TIER GAMEPLAY, BEST STORY EVER TOLD (SPOILER ALERT, HERE'S THE ENDING LOL), 10/10, IT'S A MASTERPIECE, FUCK ALL THE CONTRARIANS".
FE fans aren't that autistic, ironically the only autistic thing they do is fight over whether games before or after Awakening are the best.

>>377707873

It was liked here at first, but true to this board's nature it eventually became hated. Echoes will suffer the same fate.

>>377711113
Can make an educated guess on who he is just because there's only one guy that keeps getting namedropped that isn't in the original senpai. That much is pretty obvious.

What I mean is, why would they bother to introduce him when he has the same problems as Faye (i.e. an inability to interfere with canon) but in a position that should theoretically be much more important than he ends up being? He pretty much just exists to give Celica a Cavalier long after one could've been even vaguely useful.

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How difficult is the post-game dungeon? I beat final map without any trouble (entire game is actually pretty ez, playing on Hard), party is lv9-12 final promotion.

>>377711595
Not him but Awakening gets bashed too much. I honestly don't see why it's disliked so much besides being quite easy.

Fates is far worse, even the one with better maps.

>>377711678
Nah, I think most people immediately said Echoes is quite standard/average. Not great but not bad. I think that's a fair assessment.

>>377711808
It will tear you a new one.
Fuck, the final boat map before the post-game dungeon is kicking my shit in.

>>377711595
Really? Last I checked, it was that and romance options

>>377711808
You should be totally fine.

>>377710426
>Lucina was the first masked character in the series
Awakeningbabby pls