Should i go with ryzen for or wait for cannon?

Replace entire motherboard and spend thousands on DDR4 and fucking video cards.

>>377675121
w8 for blue. I mean your 3570k runs at 4.6ghz do you really need an Ayymd CPU right now?

>>377676895
well more threads would be nice, rendering eats alot of time

btw just noticed that intel+asus offer a 100€ cashback if you buy a 7700k + ROG Strix Z270

>>377676895
>giving advice when you have no idea what clock speed actually means
kys
>>377677146
There's honestly no reason to upgrade your PC right now. The improvements you will see will be minimal and unless you just want a reason to waste money, then keep what you have until the next generation of architectures comes out.

>>377675121
>i mainly play overwatch competitively
kek

>>377675121
>I render alot in 3ds max and reaper 5 thats one of the main reasons i want to upgrade
Ryzen wins hands down, Intel is vastly inferior.

>>377675121
Just an fyi the i5 can't utilize speeds beyond 2400Mhz RAM

You get more performance (fps) from a Ryzen 5 when paired with 3200Mhz and beyond

>>377675121
Coffee Lake is a Kaby Lake hexacore

Ryzen is finished

Even their Threadripper will be annihilated by Basin Falls

>>377678316
>Ryzen is finished
>>377678316
>Even their Threadripper will be annihilated by Basin Falls
So you're admittng Ryzen won?

>>377678316
b8

>>377675121
Ryzen is no good for games, have you even looked at benchmarks?

>>377677432
Take your own advice retard. A cpu with more threads is beneficial for rendering, which the op does. The i5 3570k is very outdated and only 4 cores.

>>377678561
>>377678475
What does AMD dick taste like losers

>>377678804
You seem upset, m8.

>>377678804
Ask my motherboard

>>377678316
Considering that the price of the 7700k is already 35% higher than the price of the 1600x the 6c chips from intel will probably be around 500-600 bucks so theyre out of my budget anyway

>>377678702
if you watched the recent benches after the bios updates youll see that the game perfomance increased by about 10-30% depending on the games.

And ryzen is probably still alot better than my 3570k

Fuck this brand war and loyalty going on. Ryzen 5 is great for gaming and so is the Ryzen 7 line. You can't go wrong with that or the intel line 7600k or 7700k. if you are rocking any i5 processor from 3570k onwards you're fine. Its good intel has competition, I'm happy.

>>377680343
honestly i was a intel boy before am4 simply because amd had nothing to offer but competition is really good even for people that want to buy intel cpus it drops the prices

in my case i dont care about the brand i just wanna find a product thats better suited for me

>>377678702
Wrong.

>>377678316
>Coffee Lake is a Kaby Lake hexacore
sweating CPU cooler.jpg

do you have lots of money and want the best?
wait for intel

do you want something that doesn't break the bank and performs nearly as well, is available now, and is causing intel to panic and lower prices and overhaul their roadmap, possibly leading to competition happening once again?
buy amd

>>377681542
lmao intels shit will be worse in every way. cant compete with efficiency

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>>377675121
buy Ryzen if you want to play 3 games at once without lagging at 60fps

other than that, be a pleb PC "master race" and buy Intel

>>377678804
Ask ur mum

>>377675121
I've got a 3570k too. Been planning on getting a Ryzen 5 1600. Recently helped a friend build their first PC and used this chip. It really is fantastic for the price and I can't wait to upgrade.

For reference, I used an MSI B350 Tomakawk Mobo and 16GB kit of Crutial Ballistic Sport LT. After I got the BIOS updated, it ran flawlessly. It worked so well that I'm going to get all of the exact same parts when I upgrade.

Granted, my reason for upgrading is a lot different from yours (mobo is slowly dying, also really into emulation and desire CPU with faster L3 cache), but regardless, if you are doing productivity, you'd be mad not to jump on Ryzen if you're considering an upgrade. If all you are doing is gaming, 4.6 is a really good OC for a 3570k and you've probably got another 2 years of use if you wanted to wait.

>>377682868
Since when has AMD been considered master race? AMD offers far more for the money, buying Intel with Ryzen out is literally retarded. On top of vastly superior multitasking, any frame dips you would see when comparing Ryzen to Kabylake would only be noticeable on a 144Hz monitor, which most ppl don't have.

>>377683768
>Since when has AMD been considered master race?
Since Athlon 64 and earlier?

>>377682868
>>377683768
Plus future BIOS updates and further optimization from devs will slowly close the gap between AMD and Intel even more

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>>377678316
>Dude just release sandy bridge again with more cores

>>377675121
I been using a 6 core Xeon (x5650 at 4.4 ghz) for years and years now - 24 gigs ram, 1080ti. 1440P and HTC Vive

Fuck intel. I'm going Ryzen asap

>>377675121
I didn't read this thread but regardless of what anyone told you go for Zen

This is the correct answer

went from an fx6300 to a 7700k and oh my god, the difference is unbelievable. It's like my PC wasn't even on before.

>>377675121
Why are you asking /v/? /v/ knows nothing about technology.

>>377675121
upgrade to 16 or 32 gigs of ram, get a new high quality PSU and a nice CPU cooler. that CPU will be more than enough for 10 years.

>>377685608
Yeah fx cpus suck, glad they changed that with ryzen.

>>377685647
I was in College for Network Engineering for 2 years before I dropped out. Are you suggesting he ask /g/? I'd ask /v/ despite the number of idiots in here before I even consider going over to /g/.

>>377675121
Go with amd.

Intel's next lineup is the same shit as before with tiny incremental improvements. Don't pretend you know more than intel. Consumers are mostly idiots and will buy 1% upgrade just because it's brand new. They have no reason to push a 40% improvement any time soon. More cores are still reserved for the high end consumer with money to burn. You ain't affording them. If you're playing games at 1440p with a 1070, then you don't have to worry about cpu clocks since the gpu will choke way before you reach 144fps.

>>377677146
>rendering eats alot of time
If you need it for work then go for it. Work always takes precedence.

>>377678702
Have you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m

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Hardware has not fucking changed since 2014. Please consult /g/ and close this troll thread.

I refuse to believe Intel/AMD would make shill threads on a Bulgarian Gay Wrestler Emporium Outreach Community, but it is entirely possible.

>>377675121
>My 1070 is currently enough to push those fast frames in overwatch
Holy fuck get some taste if you are gonna invest on a pc.

>>377687542
What do you mean hardware has not changed?
Are you saying hardware right now is as powerful as it was 3 years ago? Because it isn't

>>377687542
This is just plain wrong and I won't bother to explain

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>>377687542
>Hardware has not fucking changed since 2014

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>>377687542
>Hardware has not fucking changed since 2014

>>377687542
If you're talking about Intel's IPC and price per core, then yes, I'd take it to nothing has changed since 2011 when Sandy Bridge came out, but Intel has been able to refine their architecture to allow impressive clock speeds. Also now that AMD is actual competition offering Haswell IPC with more cores and threads than Intel at a cheaper price and lower tdp.

The fact that the 1600, a 6c/12t haswell equivalent ipc at stock speeds is 65w tdp is jawdropping. And the fact that it is only $210 and has an unlocked multiplier and can OC to 3.8-4.0Ghz on the stock cooler makes it that much more appealing.

To say hardware as a whole has not changed since 2014 is just stupid tho

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>>377688374
With how small AMD is compared to Intel, it's amazing they were able to pull this off

>>377685660
I have a Leadex 80+ Plat, theres no need to change

>>377689265
Thanks to Jim Keller among other things

>>377689265
AMD is still lacking in the Radeon dept though. However, Vega is looking promising, but so is Volta. With Ryzen doing so well, I think AMD gpus will also sell a bit more since ppl like to pair AMD cpus and gpus together

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>>377675121
>AMD on /v/

if you want to have a meaningful discussion about computer hardware go to /g/

/v/ is nvidiot/intel town

>>377688374
L3 cache has also gotten a lot faster since Sandy Bridge. That paired with the move from DDR3 to DDR4 and higher clock speeds is still a decent improvement, but Intel could've done more these past 6 years for sure.

>>377689705
>meaningful discussion about computer hardware
>/g/
All /g/ does is jack off to Linux and complain how pajeets steal their tech jobs.

>>377689786
>pajeets steal their tech jobs
I never understood this shit. Are the dumbfucks on /g/ saying they can't compete with pajeets? LMAO.

>>377689845
Its more of
>can't find a job/how do I become successful
and whenever someone claims to be successful
>yeah, its easy if ur a pajeet

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>>377689786
its a meme you dip

the new meme is nyaa.si cartel fiasco

>>377675121
In replacing my 2500k 4.6 with ryzen when vega releases

It hits 90-100% usage in modern games and sometimes bottlenecks my regular 980

1600 is what I'm going for as it's roughly the same price I got my i5 for years ago, if I want to upgrade on the Intel side its either 7700k + mobo which is way more expensive than the ryzen route and is still only quad core, and coffee lake 6 cores will be even more expensive

>>377689938
what resolution are you playing at? Even though, I'm planning on doing the same with my 3570k, a 2500k at 4.6Ghz should not be bottlenecking a 980

>>377690063
1080p. It depends on the game, battlefield 1, deus ex md, Warhammer are the first games that come to mind where the cpu is at 90-100% usage and gpu usage fluctuates.

Actually thinking back ac unity/syndicate runs crap on i5s too but fine on i7s

I remember witcher 3 stuttering in novigrad until I locked to 60fps too. I'm using 120hz

>>377689938
I don't expect anything decent from intel until maybe cannonlake. I don't expect much from coffeelake

Coffee Lake will cost more than Ryzen but will perform slightly better with higher power usage.


it's a kaby lake with extra cores. aka nothing revolutionary and you can't go wrong with picking a 1700 or 1600.

unless you're planning to play on a 144Hz monitor then go for Intel.

>>377690237
>120hz

ok, that makes more sense

>>377690302
Yeah I guess, for example battlefield 1 runs fine locked to 60fps however if I unlock the framerate it goes to 70ish fps but with stutters, cpu usage 100% while gpu is at like 60-80%.

With an i7 or ryzen the gpu would be used fully and id be getting 100+fps

>>377690449
I'd look up benchmarks on 3770k. Maybe buy a used one and get some extra ram instead of buying into a completely new platform.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZxZiksWtRQ

>>377690542
Its too expensive in the UK,around the same price as the 1600. Feel like I need more ram too, buying ddr3 feels like a waste would rather have a new platform

>all these fags that spend time learning about each CPU
>not just buying the most popular or expensive parts and paying someone to install it for you

>>377675121
Ryzen

>>377675121
Cannon is still pretty far-off. At this point in time, you're just waiting for the sake of waiting.

Intel Pajeets STILL on suicide watch. Can't believe how sad this is.

I finally decided to buy a Ryzen 7 1700 + Asus Prime B350-Plus + 16GB Ripjaws 5 3000 CL15 for 500€

You have a i5 3570k @ 4.6ghz, fucking wait 9 months for Zen2. Cheap 8 core that is going to be 25-35% better than the current zen models thanks to higher clocks, mature motherboard drivers, better ddr4 ram support and IPC improvements (Zen is said to have a ton of little errors and bugs that they had no time to fix, so all the fixes and improvements are going to be a nice IPC jump in zen2).

>>377675121
Ryzen 5 1600 BTFOs the i5

>just wait for zen2
>just wait for zen3
>just wait for BESIN FALLS
>just wait for coffin lake
Holy shit you faggots are fucking retarded please die.