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Does it make a difference?

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Does it make a difference?
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In loading times, yes.
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if you're talking about for a computer, an SSD as your OS drive is one of the best most tangible upgrades you can make over an HDD.
Everything loads up faster and feels better.

If you're talking about for a console, probably a waste. Enjoy your slow as fuck loads.
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>>377647628

On my 4yr old PC:

>booting without SSD
>around 1 minute, someitmes more

>booting with SSD
>around 7 seconds

>loading times in Total Warhammer or Battlefield 1 without SSD
>2 minutes, sometimes more

>with SSD
>around 14 seconds


I havent met anybody yet who bought an SSD and regretted their decision.

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Paradox Games take ages to load if not on a SSD.
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>2017
>still not having an nvme ssd
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>>377650350
>Turning your computer off
For what purpose?
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>>377647628
If I buy a SSD in a few months how do I boot my OS on that instead of my HDD?
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i pity the fool who has their OS on a HDD in the year 2017. can't imagine it.


for games? yes it helps with loading times. for console? have no idea. i know older xboners and ps4s are running sata 2.
kek
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>>377650687
Install your OS on it.
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>>377650528
>>377650528
he has windows. if you don't turn it off every now and then, memory leaks and bugged processes will kill you
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>>377650687
> Install OS on the SSD
> Configure your BIOS to always boot the SSD
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>>377650896
>Using Windows as your main OS
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>>377650896
i only restart for updates every other month and i'm not having any issues
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>>377647628
I upgraded my 7 yo macbook pro with exact ssd, holy fucking shit I can open 4 adobe software in 7 sec at once

I pity the fool who buys a new laptop because "mine is getting slow"

Being ignorant sure waste alot of money
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>>377647628

for the OS? hell yes
for games? don't bother
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bought one for my toaster to replace my broken harddrive, shit does fucking wonders for both OS and games

feels like a high tier machine, definitely not a meme upgrade
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Is it true that your data gets erased if you keep it disconnected for some time?
I also heard that you can't overwrite a lot
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>>377651498
>I also heard that you can't overwrite a lot
this is outdated information. modern ssd's last longer than any hdd, no matter how much you abuse them.
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>>377651498
Ive heard about ssds not having a longer lifespan because cells degrade or some shit but ive seen plenty of torture tests that say otherwise and that they could last a decade of normal use
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>>377651243
>for games? don't bother

That is flat out wrong for any game (especially mp) that forces you to load huge maps or other big chunks of data before a match.
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>>377647628
I recently brought a SSD and it makes Windows boot up nearly instant.

It's definitely convenient to have. I also have foolshly installed many games on the drive and it's taken up nearly all of my space instantly. and I feel like i need to move them

But at the same time, what the fuck is the point of a SSD if Im not gonna have my main game son the thing?
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>>377650710
>for console? have no idea. i know older xboners and ps4s are running sata 2.
I'm actually surprised they even put sata 3 on the PS4 pro seeing how cheap console manufacturers are with that shit. SSD's do make a difference on the PS4 but its less than 10 seconds at best you won't see massive changes like on a PC.
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>>377651690
>have a smallish ssd and a large HDD
>put OS on ssd
>put irrelevant shit like jpgs on HDD
>download and install stuff on HDD
>when you are about to play a game, transfer its files from HDD to ssd
>transfer back when you are done with that game
Fucking simple, lad.
I have a 120gb ssd and a 1tb HDD and I've been doing this for years, never have to worry about how slow an HDD is, nor shell out for a massive ssd.
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>>377651498
this hasn't been true for a long time anon. yes, when ssds first came out and updated firmware every 20 minutes it was pretty crazy. wear leveling is still a thing but nothing like it was in the past. unless you plan to write hundreds upon hundreds of gb per day they will last a long time. you're more likely to replace it as bigger capacity ssds become cheaper and cheaper rather than breaking it.

also, the thing to rememeber is the vast majority of the benefit you will get is from a ssd being not mechanical and that means zero seek time. you will likely lever do anything (games included) that will saturate it speed wise so you don't need to go blow your money on a samsung pro drive.
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>>377647628
Installing a SSD over a regular drive is one of the most drastic upgrades you can make for a computer, assuming you have the money for it.
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>>377651889
I'm using a 500GB SSD but games these days are fucking massive. It doesnt help that I have games I dont even play anymore or often on the thing.
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>>377652023
But they're cheap as shit
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>>377651924
>unless you plan to write hundreds upon hundreds of gb per day
>>377651889
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>>377647628
Yes

The difference is that you will constantly run out of space to save shit and have to delete video games from your computer like it's 2005 and you are using the family PC again
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>>377651646

the only mp games that can benefit of a SSD are the Battlefield titles, everything else is just a marginal improvement (I've tested it on OW, CS:GO, Warframe and R6S)
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Is there a way to reinstall my current OS on a different drive without having to format and lose fukken everythin
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>>377652160
So what?
Another 120gb ssd costs literally £40 and you're talking buying that every 3-4 years or so.
That's not fucking expensive.
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>>377652159
Not if you're the kind of guy who runs multi TB drives in RAID.
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we're at the weird stage now like hdds were a long time ago where its cheaper to just buy a bunch of 250gb ssds instead of a single 1tb one. they're so small and they sip power so you can fill all your sata ports with them and never know because the best part is no fucking spinning noise vibrating your case like a giant dildo.
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Question to those who have an SSD: Can I install Firefox on Chrome on it or is it better to install them on the HDD?
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>>377652640
Is this bait or do you really not understand what SSDs are? Yes, of course you can install programs on it. What the fuck else were you going to use it for? Just storage?
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>>377652540
Not him but fucking around with multiple SSD's would be such a pain in the ass

>oh there's 20 GB left here but the game is 30 let's put it on this one oh wait if I move these image files around I could create more space what if I clean the other one there like 2GB left but if i could....
zzzz

I want everything on one medium and I'm not going to pay Samsung one thousand dollars to get 2TB, like 2TB is enough in 2017 and one thousand dollars is anywhere near appropriate for that amount of storage space
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>>377652640
I put all my programs on ssd. My hard drives just hold movies, shows and shit like that.
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For OS, absolutely.

Games, it depends
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>>377652689
Don't their lifespan reduce if you keep writing too much shit on them? That's why i'm asking if browsers are safe to use.
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>>377652640
browsers are fine. again, its not the dark ages anymore, ssds can take a shit ton of reads and writes now, more than you will ever use especially at home playing video games.
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>>377651216
>actually updating windows

I'm staying on 7 until I die
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>>377652186
this, I wish I was rich enough to fill out my computer case racks with SSDs, instead I have a 240 gb SSD that I rotate whatever games I'm playing that month between the SSD and my HDD.

Even my HDD is getting full and I'm too poor to get another, send help
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Should I buy a mechanical keyboard or an SSD?
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>>377652803
ffs this hasn't been true in years. where do you read this fud?
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>>377652803
Worrying about lifespan on an ssd is like worrying about burn in on a plasma
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>>377652507
clone your drive. some retail ssds even come with kits to do it.
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>>377652929
ssd first
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>>377652929
>should I buy some meme or an actual improvement
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>>377652929
ssd
you gain hardly anything from a mechanical memeboard
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>>377647628
Yes, it's very useful, especially if you get a 1tb one, not just for the OS but for all programs and games. The difference will be huge.
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Look guys, they are on sale!

Only $1,488.00! What a steal! Only one left in stock!

Your computer will boot two seconds faster because you actually turn it off so much instead of using sleep mode which basically makes your computer turn on instantly!
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>>377647628
how hard is it to move my os to a new ssd from my hdd?
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>>377647628
Only for loading times. Also...
>not M.2
pleb
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>>377653250
(Thou)
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really good for open world games like witcher and simulation games like cities skylines.
Overall your OS will speed up alot.
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>>377651173
>gaming on anything but windows

nice meme fuckboy
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>>377653250
if you're poor, don't buy it
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>>377653250
>sleep mode which basically makes your computer turn on instantly!
nice fucking meme
>sleeping/hybernating on SSD
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>>377653250
>4tb
>sold by literally who

hello /g/
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>>377653343
>M.2
A m.2 is just a SSD you fucking retard.
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>>377653367
All I need are emulators
Modern games are a meme for the uneducated mass
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>>377653250
>1500 dollarinos
>doesn't even come with the mount shit
fucking kek

SSD shills will defend this
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>>377653167
>>377653182
>>377653202
But my system is already pretty fucking fast and I love the clickity clak feeling
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>>377653250
If you need more than a 1TB SSD you need to reevalute what you spend your money on. All that extra cash could be spent on a NAS file server and you'd get some extra functionality in addition to expandable storage for the future.
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>>377653580

then stop asking questions you already know the answer for.
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>>377653580
why are you asking then, if you like wasting money go ahead
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It helps with some games. For other games it does fuck all. Total War Shogun 2 for example gains nothing from SSD.
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>>377653580
an ssd really is probably the biggest single improvement you can add to a computer. if you've never used an ssd you don't know what you're missing.
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all shit's faster

boot time
moving and copying files
opening large folders
loading programs

shit's dope
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I was actually just about to make a thread about upgrading to an SSD.

Jesus christ this is all so much faster and better now, 100% worth spending like 250 on a tb ssd. Especially if you get yourself a m.2 or mSata
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>>377653250
If you're going to blow that much, you might as well save a couple hundred and get an internal instead. Especially since 4TB is fucking overkill unless its going to be your ONLY drive.
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>>377650493
i bought a 1tb M.2 SSD. best thing i ever bought.
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>>377647628
My brother and I play vidjer all the time. He has an SSD.

He is always waiting on me to load.
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I won't fall for this meme until I can just buy one to replace my HDD completely

I don't want to fuck with multiple storage units, I don't want to have to delete shit when I want to install new things, it's not the dark ages anymore

Just let me have one 4TB storage unit I put all my shit on and be done with it

>>377653979
>your only drive
Literally the only scenario I will ever own an SSD in and paying $1000+ is way to fucking much when you can buy 4TB HDD's for $100 these days
Paying more than 12 times the price is not worth it, that's just fucking insane

When they stop artificially bloating up the price to retard levels I will get one
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>>377652589
Larger SSDs are faster and have more writes that's why smaller SSDs are cheaper, they're also more simple.
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>>377649223
>SSD on OS meme
just fuck off already, wow I saved 3 seconds, I put my computer to sleep every fucking day, yes I checked my electric bill and nothing changed.
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>>377653250
>Your computer will boot two seconds faster because you actually turn it off so much instead of using sleep mode which basically makes your computer turn on instantly!

fucking this how the fuck does faster boot time matter at all?

this is so fucking stupid who would actually fall for that shit
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>>377653989
m2 is a form factor retard... is it sata iii or nvme...
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It's worth it for your OS or stuff that's actually long to load (anything on Creative Suite, any 3d engine), but I don't think it's actually worth using space on it for video games if you got something lile a 7200RPM hard drive.
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>>377654293
It's fucking 2017, stop worrying about writes. You'll never ever reach its end
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I'm not getting an SSD till the prices come down to around the same ballpark as regular drives. I can get 1tb for $50 I'm not paying more for less than half that to save 3 seconds on my boot times.
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>>377647721
this
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>>377654748
We'll have quantum drives by then.
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>>377654285
do you have any idea how R&D works you retard it isn't a hard drive the technology is more expensive
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>>377654748
Enjoy waiting a long time, just do what everyone else does
Buy a 128 or 256, use it for os/programs and HDD for larger files/games
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>>377654748
You realize it's not just boot times right? It's all disk i/o, so any loading time or any asset pop-in in game will be sped up significantly as long as that game is installed on the SSD. Just opening your browser will be noticeably faster.
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>>377654748
so literally never, they aren't the same thing you idiot they will never cost the same
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>>377654978
What would be the point? My OS runs fine and it would not help my games it'd be a useless purchase.

>>377655059
What I'm saying is it's not worth it genius.
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>>377650350
>>loading times in Total Warhammer or Battlefield 1 without SSD
>>2 minutes, sometimes more

shit pc detected, without ssd it never takes more than 30secs
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>>377655138
Ok, just letting you know that SSD will never reach the pricing you see for HDD.
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I bought one to put my OS on, but I don't turn my PC off anyway. What do I do with it now?
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>>377655138
the gains in performance are worth it, maybe you just have a shit budget or don't understand how good one as your bootdrive and os is
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Booting up using an SSD is fucking luxurious. It takes a couple of seconds from power on.
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>>377655510
Why would you even have your computer turned off in the first place?
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>>377653367
Gaming? I thought this was /v/
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>>377647628
What about for gaming laptops. Would a traditional HDD fail in a laptop if I always took it with me when running errands and on plane trips as well?
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>>377655597
Why would you NOT turn your pc off when its not in use when you have an SSD?
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All of you who say it's worthless having an SSD for your OS is retarded. I just did the upgrade on my computer a month ago and it's amazing.
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>>377655698
Because there's no point, computers don't need to rest
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>>377655634
Yes, until SSDs were made cheaply available a few years ago nobody was able to take laptops with them without the hard drives failing.
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I use hard drive. SSDs are still expensive as fuck in here
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>>377655449
When people say shit like it opened a browser slightly faster or my boots saved like 2.7 seconds I just laugh because it shows how happy people are to waste money. Now if you're going all in and getting a big one to hold games I get it but the little ones are a racket to get over on graph fags everywhere.
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>>377655698
so botnet forever running everr
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>>377655698
Why do you worry about an SSD's lifespan? I don't.
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SO WHAT ARE THE BEST SSD'S AT DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS

Thanks
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>>377655698
It's a meme that only NEETs believe since they don't pay for bills. Leaving on your PC constantly reduces it's lifespan
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>>377655597
my computer is in my room and i need darkness and silence when trying to go to sleep
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>>377655914
>saving 2.7 seconds
Then after a year or two as your harddrive gets slower, it goes to minutes for booting. Not going to happen with an SSD
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>>377655914
so you're mad people have more money than you and or choose to spend their money differently than you?
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>>377655853
Parts wear out.
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>>377656070
>Has the money to burn on meme drives
>Doesn't have the money to pay extra $10 a month
>Leaving on your PC constantly reduces it's lifespan
LMAO
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>>377655860
Are you trolling? Well it's one thing if it fails like in 4 years instead of 5, but is it common for laptop HDDs that are "well-traveled" to fail in like 1 to 2 years?
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>>377656070
>Leaving on your PC constantly reduces it's lifespan
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>>377656041
whatever is the most on sale in the capacity you want and isn't a sketchy china brand, have you ever bought anything online before?
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>>377656214
I said I laugh I'm not mad at all.
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>>377656670
Nigga there are big differences between companies, even the big ones e.g. Seagate hdds have like a 70% higher failure rate than the other major companies like Samsung or western digital.
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>>377654319
Found the retard
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>>377655634
SSDs aren't just faster, they also use less power. So in a laptop, yea. No contest.

I'd assume you aren't going to be saving all your shit to a laptop anyway, since that would be idiotic.
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>>377656958
Seagate doesn't make SSDs, or I hope not

there are reviews for literally anything just read
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>>377657120
I'm not conecerned about speed or battery usage as much as long term durability. I plan to take this thing with me to work every day and on a plane trip once or twice a year. If a standard HDD can still last 4-5 years with all the vibration I'd put it through, I'd rather go that route to save money. But if the thing will fail in like 2 years then yea the extra $$$ for a SSD is worth it. I wonder if there have been studies related to this...
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>>377657516
less moving parts = more durability, use your head
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>>377657146
>bought a Seagate 1tb to go with a 250 SSD.

Shit.
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Why the FUCK aren't larger archival and media storage/NAS drives not going down in price? Cheapest I've seen a bare 3TB drive is like, 90.
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>>377656041
Samsung 850 Evo.
Samsung NVMe SSDs.
Anything with 3D NAND is good (Samsung EVO/PRO, ADATA SU800, etc.)
Crucial 3D NAND is shady.

Avoid Kingston, PNY and other chinese brands.
Avoid Sandisk Low end too (SSD Plus).
WD SSDs are Sandisk rebrands, overpriced and 2D NAND.
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>>377647628
If you're a stickler for performance/dollar ratio like I am, yes, they are worth it as of a couple years ago. They were trendy meme shit prior to that and anyone who was buying them for more than about .5 dollar to GB was an idiot, mostly because games didn't even utilize them.
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>>377658235
Flooding gave a excuse to companies for price Fixing.

Also Price Fixing is literally the same reason NAND is getting more expensive instead cheaper.
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>>377658235
>why can't store every game and movie or copyrighted product
How about you buy a boat and stop stealing from game developer they need to feed their family
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>>377658310
How comes Kingston and SanDisk ssd plus are bad? I was looking at the 120gb models of those ones because they're pretty cheap and had good reviews on Amazon and pc part picker.
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>>377658471
I don't steal, I only torrent anime
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>>377657516
You can never guarantee storage. Both are designed to survive that situation, but you are a dumbass if you don't back it up anyway.
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>>377658512
Kingston SV300 and 400 are literally the worst SSDs in the market, also Kingston scammed some SV300 buyers when it was released, they are bad speed an reliability wise.
HyperX Line is good.
Sandisk SSD Plus is a bad SSD overall, Ultra II is good but outdated.
Dont buy SSDs with 2D NAND.

Look for ADATA SU800 if you are looking for a cheap SSD, or save for a 850 EVO.

Dont buy 120GB SSDs, they last less, slightly slower (sometimes shitty write speeds) and if you are using it as a OS SSD you will have no space once you install windows and fundamental programs.
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>>377652340
R6S has fuckhuge textures to load if you're on Ultra and also benefits well from an SSD.
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>>377658471
>Wanting to use 1x4TB instead of 3x1TB drives in a desktop and wasting space and managing a shitton of coils is stupid
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Just bought an 850 EVO 500gb and a
960 EVO 500gb nvme

I've been told there's no observable difference for the common pleb that plays games and browses the internet with nvme drives though
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>>377653250

>1488
What did they mean by this?
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>>377659180
Wait a minute, those numbers...
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>>377658823
Are they really that bad for just an operating system boot disk? I was only planning on using it for my operating system and everything else like games, pics, movies etc would be stored on my 1tb hdd.
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Yes. Installing your OS and games that load a lot like Sims 3 on an SSD is huge.

Keep games that don't load that much and other media on a traditional disk.
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>>377647628
>install os on HDD
>reboot on repair console mode
>robocopy windows directory to ssd
>mklink it
>hybrid drive with plenty of space for games on ssd
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>>377647628
SSD's are just placebos like adding a sound card or upgrading your graphics card
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>>377659381
They work, but dont expect them to last a lot, dont use them for important stuff.

120GiB is 112~GB.
A clean windows install is 25-30GB alone, updates are 10-15GB, Fundamental programs (browser, player, etc) are 5-10GB.
Then you have the junk created with windows that will slowly eat the rest, and whatever you store under your user folders (documents, downloads, desktop, video and image folders, also appdata folder for programs, etc).
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>>377659996
Ok

Isn't there a way to change the directory for those folders to the hdd because I'm always downloading big files and it would be easier if they go straight to the hdd.
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>>377660174
>Documents, Desktop, Downloads, Media
Yes, just right click them in the explorer and select where they will be stored.
>Appdata
No as far im aware.
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>>377654319
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>>377647628
Faster but more expensive than SSD
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>>377660281
>appdata over five years is 15 gigs
Fuck.
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>>377660708
>15 day old install
>3.4GB

I wonder what my old PC appdata folder is like.
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>>377660638
Meant to say HDD

Brain fart
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>>377652023
The leap from 4 or so minutes to less than 1 when starting my machine was orgasmic.
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>>377656289
>>377656352
>MEMES, GUYS
SSDs work
Leaving your PC on is bad.
eat shit you memelords
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>>377660708
>16.9 GB (18,174,311,371 bytes)

Plz send help. lol I never even noticed it.
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>mfw I fell for the SSD meme
It's a good meme.
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>>377661051
>>377656352
ever heard of mean time between failures you idiots? Sure it might not affect you but why risk it, leaving your PC on 24/7 is a stupid idea unless you have money to throw away if something happens to fail
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>>377661051
>Leaving your PC on is bad
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>>377647628
for me? barely
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should I go for it? my windows score will increase!
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>>377647628
Not really, but it's really fucking nice to have. Very few games are streaming in a lot of assets for it to matter in a run time matter. That said having everything load up very quickly is nice.
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>>377661495
yes
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>>377661364
>>377661051
Bait/10.

Turning on and off your PC reduces their life more than leaving it on 24/7, most PCs were designed to be on all the time.
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>>377661858
that's what companies want you to believe
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>>377661946
People would replace servers like batteries if that were the case.
Most computers will get replaced because of how outdated they are instead of failing.
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>>377651173
Wow I love my linuggs OS boy oh boy I cant wait to look at my library

>5 games

Wow so many to play!
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I will get the 850 evo this friday. tell me /v/ , what should i know beforehand?

>what is trim?
>pagefile on or off? (writes to the pagefile are adressed to the SLC portion of the drive or not?)
>partitioning kills SSDs?
>do i need to install samsung's software?
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>>377662178
>>377653507
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>>377662353

>Garbage collection/re-write optimization
>On, it doesnt matter with 3D NAND SSDs and 850 EVO SLC cache is big enough
>No
>No
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big games like arma or space engineers on an SSD is godlike
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>>377662040
servers are servers, also if you have an SSD leaving the PC on IS reducing its life and that's a fact, for the rest, leaving it on or not doesn't matter much
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I'm pretty sure both of my HDDs are dying at the same time. Games don't just stutter, some outright freeze momentarily when something new happens.

I should probably upgrade pretty much everything at this point anyway.
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Is a Kingston hyperX 240gb sata3 2.5 inch any good?
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>>377662508
thanks anon
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>>377662913
HyperX FURY*
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>>377662913
Get a 850 EVO, or anything with 3D NAND.
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>>377647628

depends on the game

I remember when planetside 2 was a thing menus, maps, etc were tied to drive speed, so a slow HDD would have you sitting there for like 10 seconds getting your ass shot at as you tried to look at your map or whatever

but otherwise its usually just load times
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>>377662913
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Evo-250GB-vs-HyperX-Fury-120GB/2977vs2586
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>>377663162
960 evo is better.
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>>377663162
What's a 3D NAND?
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>>377663361
a NAND in 3D
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>>377663361
NAND is where the information will be saved.
2D NAND is a single layer of it.
3D NAND is multiple layers of it.

SSDs have a limited amount of writes, but with 3D NAND this isn't a problem.
More of them means that the SSD will be to write way more, faster, and be way more reliable.

>>377663250
No shit, but its not SATA.
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>>377663608
>>377663361
Also there is TLC, MLC and SLC but just focus that it is 3D TLC or 3D MLC, samsung calls it V-NAND, others 3D NAND.
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Switching from HDD to SSD is a pretty good upgrade. The only question you need to ask is how big you‘ll want your SSD.
Switching your OS (or any operating system you‘re currently using) to SSD is a must. If you think you would rather conserve SSD space by not putting your OS on it than you might just as well not get one in the first place.
An OS, with most essential programs, such as window updates and other junks included, would take up about 40gb or even up to 60gb on your disk. Therefore unless you‘re only going to install one game at a time, a 128gb SSD is out of the question.
256Gb, imo, is a "starter pack". The usable space of the SSD itself would usually round down to 240 so that 16gb you‘ve lost from the start. And 200gb goes quickkkkkkkk when you started installing games and the game expends itself with all the patches and save/configuration files. Do not expect to hold more than 3 triple A‘s title on your SSD if you‘re just going to do a 256gb.

T. Anon who started with 256 and upgraded to 1tb on thanksgiving.
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>>377663503
>>377663608
>>377663690
What's the difference between a 3D NAND 850 evo and an m.2 850 evo?
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>>377663745
>The usable space of the SSD itself would usually round down to 240 so that 16gb you‘ve lost from the start.
That is because Everyone in the world uses GiB which is 1000MB but Microsoft uses GB which is 1024MB.
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If you want a dedicated vidya drive, grab a cheap 128GB SSD from a decent brand, that's it. Game loading times on my $120 850 Pro are no different than the V300 I got for $35 during a Christmas sale. Giving yourself a space budget of 128GB should also keep you from hoarding games with no intention of playing them, which can sometimes happen if you throw everything on a 2TB Black (which I genuinely haven't played anything on ever since getting the V300)

It's hard to go back to a mechanical drive now because of how load times spoiled me, and how hitches while streaming assets disappear. If you play anything with an assload of custom textures, i.e. your Bethesda mod clusterfucks, then you'll notice a huge improvement, and anything from the days of 8-12GB games and under load almost instantly, with newer stuff that compiles shaders/lighting on startup and gives the option to precache shit inbetween levels getting a major boost too
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>>377662846
Seagate
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>>377663958
One in M2 form factor and the other is in SATA 2.5" form factor.
Both will work as a SATA SSD.

M2 is just the shape, the SSD decides how it works.

There are 2 kinds of M2 SSDs.
M2 SATA and M2 NVMe.

M2 SATA is just SATA 3 with a different shape, same limits, no other benefit (550MB/s limit).
M2 NVMe can work either at 10Gb/s or 32Gb/s, most of them work at 1600MB/s-2000MB/s because thermal throttling hits of how hot they get.

>TLDR:
No difference at all other than shape, get the SATA version since the case works as a heatsink.
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Do you still create seperate system and an "other" partion on the ssd? (for say, 250GB+)
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A lot of people are still perpetrating myths and marketing talk. SSD will not do anything much on games performance except better load times. This has been proven by several benchmarks now for years by several groups. I like SSDs because of its benefits but keep deluding yourself guys. An SSD will not help your shit PC.

And I know what you're gonna say and these are the answer for it. Preload, that's vram retard, pleb, marketing myth, you just have a shit pc.
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If anyone here has exp with this
I got my SSD and OS cd ready and plenty of cables and other shit

But no slot in my case for the smaller SSD size, dont want to buy some conversion rig or w/e I probably need
BUT I do have some velcro, can I affix the SSD to the side of the case? Will it get hot enough to melt anything? I see people talk about using velcro pretty often
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>>377664581
SSDs dont move at all, you can literally leave it hanging as long you dont move your case often.
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>>377649223

Pretty much this. Console games are optimized around HDDs so they generally don't even know to try to take advantage of SSDs, but on a PC it's a fucking game-changer (pun intended) and you'll never want to go back to HDDs for your OS/games you play a lot ever again.
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>>377664650
>>377664581
Also unless you have a mATX case or a case with shitty cooling the highest it will go is 60°C under stress.
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>>377664581
I got my SSD taped to case door. SSDs are not impacted by vibrations and SATA SSDs dont even get that hot. Its only nvme SSDs with crazy fast reads that gets hot.
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I'd get one but I feel like it'd be a pain to reinstall my OS. Also more interested in upgrading my 6 year old CPU.
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Is there no other way of cloning a drive without having to upload like 750 gigs of shit to my Google cloud because I don't have a spare hdd?
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ITT: literal underage and retards and people who exaggerate like >>377664376
Yes shit PCs can't be improved much, but an SSD can help with the operating system and better internet browsing performance due to it stomping the shit out of normal HDDs on random read/writes.

Some high density hard drives still shit on SSDs (depending on their firmware and controller chip) simply due to the sheer sector block density enabling them to have higher sequential read/write rates.

There, end of conversation.

SSDs == Hard drives (new ones) for games with a 1 time load of level (sequential read) (a lot of FPSes)
SSD >> Hard drives for games with large levels or a lot of invoking assets not inside memory (random reading) (aka lot of MMOs, maybe Planetside)

I stopped browsing /g/ at the beginning of '10 due to all the Apple and underage memefucks who have no practical experience nor understanding of technical documents besides spouting meme numbers.
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>>377664973
Clonezilla.
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>>377653595

I'd say at this point for a desktop more than 500GB on your SSD is overkill. 1TB or above is maybe worth it on a laptop since getting a standard HDD for your music/pirated anime/porn isn't an option there, but for desktops a 4TB SSD is at the "I want to spend a shitload of money because I can" tier, and even then you're better off spending that on an M.2 SSD rather than a SATA for faster reads/writes.
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>>377650493
>>377654480
nobody likes you , listen to that little voice at the back of your head and hang yourself
you wont be missed
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>>377664981
>I stopped browsing /g/ at the beginning of '10
it has changed, it appears to me. it is a lot less cynic han /v/
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>>377665075
How will I go about this? Does it let me choose individual folders or do I have to make a partition beforehand with my OS in one half of the partition and then clone the partition?
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>>377665335
Clone that half of the partition*
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if I get an SSD should I make a partition for it? like say 100gb for the OS then the rest of the space for the other one?:
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>>377665506
150/100.
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>>377647628
>not M.2
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>>377665582
why 150 for the OS? ain't 100 enough? and is it fine to install steam on a ssd?
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No, its pretty much essential to have at least a 250gb SSD these days, unless you are an ultra poorfag.
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>>377665710
Why do you wanna partition your SSD?
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>>377654285

Back in 2010 or so when affordable SSDs were ~64-128GB so you could only fit your OS and maybe one game on it and had to even put your Desktop/My Documents/etc. on a separate HDD I'd see where you were coming from. But at this point unless you install a shitload of games you want to install or something like that the benefit of a ~250-500GB SSD+bigger HDD over just having a single big HDD massively outweighs the higher cost/effort involved.
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>>377653250
Here's a great fucking idea: don't buy a 4 terabyte SSD and it won't cost 1500 dollars. Just get the smaller one and keep your HDD as storage
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>>377665826
>and keep your HDD as storage

You retarded nigger STORAGE is what an SSD is used for, it does literally nothing other than STORE things

Why would you buy an SSD at all if you are using your HDD for S T O R A G E
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>>377665760
I have 3 drives.

>250gb extremely fast M.2 for OS and games I want to load very fast/play a lot
>250gb standard ssd for other games
>4tb hard drive for my important data with the only games on it being very old stuff and roms
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>>377665956
you put files on the SSD you want accessed fast

you use HDD to store files you don't need the utmost speed to load. this is not a hard concept.
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>>377665956
A U T I S M
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>>377666085
>you put files on the SSD you want accessed fast
That would be about 4TB, not 50GB, kike

>dude just uninstall things and download everything all the time over and over again it's so fun to pretend you are living in the 90s and have to manage every byte of storage
fuck off
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>your computer boots three seconds faster (in the instances where you actually turn it all the way off instead of using sleep mode)
vs
>you have to constantly manage storage space, uninstall programs and redownload them when you want to use them
>you need to fuck around with having an SSD and an HDD and manage files between the two
>inconvenient shit like dragging a file to your desktop, then having to drag it into a folder on the HDD so you can delete the file on the desktop
>the list goes on

You should all kill yourselves, I hope Samsung at least pays you for this bullshit

Not even mentioning price point this is just straight up an inferior product
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>>377666209
>having none of my stuff being bitching fast is better than some of it
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>>377666484
It's not faster if you have to redownload shit all the time and drag files between two storage discs

"My computer turns on a little bit faster" is literally a non factor that shit is not worth it at all
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>/v/ is too stupid to work with more than one drive

hoyl fuk
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>>377654319

>there are people this retarded who can figure out how to post on this website
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>>377666438
>you have to constantly manage storage space, uninstall programs and redownload them when you want to use them

No you don't.

>you need to fuck around with having an SSD and an HDD and manage files between the two

That is not hard to do, at all.

>inconvenient shit like dragging a file to your desktop, then having to drag it into a folder on the HDD so you can delete the file on the desktop

What? You can configure windows to automatically put everything you download onto your HDD automatically, i do that with my pictures and shit i download from the internet.


Why is /v/ so tech-illiterate?
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>>377654319
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Literal fucking shills

>>377666630
It's inconvinient. That's a fact.

>>377666662
Absolutely no argument, turning your computer on two seconds sooner is literally not worth any part of this retarded meme

If my computer started taking two seconds more when it turned on tomorrow I literally would not notice

>>377666708
>No you don't.
Yes you do you fucking kike

250GB or 500GB is not enough to actually store anything at fucking all
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>>377666823
>250GB or 500GB is not enough to actually store anything at fucking all

Than just store your important progams, files, whatever to your SSD and the rest to your HDD. It's not as hard as you are making it out to be.
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SSD's are honestly fucking bullshit

How do they keep pushing this meme

>dude it costs more money it must be better
>what do you mean people measure storage space in terabytes now??????
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>>377666209
>dude just uninstall things and download everything all the time over and over again it's so fun to pretend you are living in the 90s and have to manage every byte of storage

in what universe is this ever the case
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>>377654319
nice bait, oh wait, you really are autistic and retarded
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>>377666595
>It's not faster if you have to redownload shit all the time and drag files between two storage discs
why would you do this?

put the shit you use daily or VERY slow games (such as battlefield 4) on the $200 ssd and put the rest of your crap on the hard drive
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>>377666823

You got your yous and you made me laugh, please stop this is too much
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>>377651173
>ecks dee bootcamp is all i need
>*sips tea*
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>>377666917
Here's your (You). What is with you autists and needing to shitpost and just straight out lie on /v/?
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I'm so fucking glad I didn't fall for the marketing

This fucking thread
>no dude I WANT to keep managing storage space like it's 2007 and I'm loading music onto my 16 GB ipod touch

>dude just use an HDD for all your shit like, you know, you are doing right now, but also have this small as fuck USB stick where you can keep downloading games onto instead of just playing them
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>>377664581
mine is just dangling since i dont give a fuck
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>>377667197
>shills in this thread are calling this horseshit "biggest single improvement you can add to a computer"


AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA
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>>377667197
>>377667312
I'm really at a loss for words here, please just tell me you are baiting.
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So do you have to uninstall your stuff and reinstall it on the ssd when you migrate? What about program files? My program files take up like 500gb because it's all games and stuff. Can I just have Windows on the ssd and my program files on a hdd?
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>>377667454
You can do that if you like, but you could just get a bigger SSD instead
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>>377667454
>Can I just have Windows on the ssd and my program files on a hdd?

Yes, you can. It's not hard to do at all, i don't know why they're are so many retards crying about it. Just get a mac if you are THIS dumb with computers.
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>>377664657
>Console games are optimized around HDDs
The PS4's hdd is connected via the USB controller. The slot loaded PATA drive is connected via the normal SATA path.
Tell me again how they're optimized for HDDs.
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>>377667547
>either gimp your PC or shell out a LITERAL thousand fucking dollars for adequate size

Thanks Mr. Shekelberg, ordering that 850 right up!
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>>377667628
850 evo was just on sale for 130 dollars for 500 gigs.
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>>377667685
>500 gigs
wow!

It's almost like it truly is the year 2001 again and we are measuring storage space in Gigabytes!

Why don't you sell me one that's like, i don't know, 50 MB? That should be enough for all my important files, right?
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>>377667770
Go back plebbit with your spacing and shit post there, kid.
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>>377667892
>b-back to r-reddit
That's right, us TRUE 4channers buy Samsung Evo SSD's!

250GB is enough for your computer, what the fuck would you actually be saving on there to take up more than that?
Just delete all that shit!

"Inspire the World, Create the Future."
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>>377668064
>Stuttering
Fitting for an autistic retard like yourself.
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>>377667558
I'm not that dumb with computers I've just never done any migrations stuff like this. I can work with hardware and software just fine when it comes to troubleshooting problems.
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>>377668127
I wasnt calling you dumb, i was calling the retards that are whining about SSDs dumb.
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I think now I understand why people make "what games do you installed" threads

They literally don't have space to install their games because they bought an SSD, kek
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>>377650350

There are actually retards screaming at people who buy SSD's because they claim it does nothing,

Some are raiding like 5 mechanicals and others are using a single mechanical and are just fucking retarded.
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>>377668248
*have

I really don't see the benefit here
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>>377667770
>>377668064
holy shit dude you're retarded. Yes, a drive close to 8 times faster than a mechanical drive is more expensive Gig for gig. No one recommends mass storage on SSDs anyway. Why can't you seem to understand that? It's like you're trying to be stupid.

Not even that anon you're responding to, but you're just being dumb for the sake of doing so.
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>>377668248

Hey bro you're so funny, oh wait, it's not 2012.

Update your joke because it's not relevant or accurate anymore.

also, poorfag.
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>>377668248
I had 50 games installed on my SSD not too long ago. People make those threads because they want to know what other people are playing. You know, the thing that this fucking board is about. But you probably didn't realize this board is about video games because you're a redditor here to do nothing but shitpost and post your elceleb threads all day you worthless filth.
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>>377668349
nice reddit spacing

>poorfag!!
The shill's favorite war cry
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>>377668320
Anon stop replying to bait.

Just report and move on.
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>>377647628
After CPU, and graphics card, this should be the next item to upgrade. You'll never want to go back to 10+ second loading times.
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>>377668064

Found the retard of the thread
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>>377668320
The point is that using a small SSD to store your "most important" files and whatnot is fucking retarded

If you can't use it for "mass storage" aka save anything on the thing at all and STORE your data which is what you bought the thing for, then it's fucking worthless
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>>377668248
Never understood people who whine because they want to install their entire library. At any given time, I have less than 20 games installed. Ranging from multiplayer ones my buddy's play, and single player ones I'm currently trying to beat. After a game is beaten, if it has no re-playability, it gets uninstalled. Only people I can see hoarding the game collection is those with 3rd world tier internet. I have 100/100 so it's not a problem for me to re-download something. Someone with 0.5/0.1 however.
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>>377654319
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Why not shill for a mediocre game or something?

Why useless shit like this?

You might as well be shilling for an inconveniently shaped mousepad

>>377668642
Can you actually provide any sort of point or argument as to why he's wrong or are you just post your wacky meme faces to justify your stupid purchase?
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>>377654319
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>>377668716
refer to this >>377668701
shill
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>>377668749
refer to these
>>377668642
>>377668716
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>>377647628
It makes a world of difference in load times. Games load lightning fast.

But game performance (framerate etc) is unaffected.
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>>377668481
You don't buy an SSD for pure storage needs. You buy it for its performance offerings over a mech disk. Movies, pictures, music, collection of .exe's? Throw it onto a mechanical drive and leave it there. An SSD is wasted on them because it offers nothing.

When I said mass storage, I meant stuff like that. For games and heavy applications, SSD all the way. (OS, Steam etc). I've been buying SSDs since they were $1.50 a GB because of their huge jump in performance compared to mechanical. All about how much you want to spend. High capacity+high speed=high price. If you're just after pure capacity, get a 4TB mech for $100 and chill.
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>>377668901
>that image
And that is why I will never fucking ever fall for the SSD meme

Look at that shit and try to justify how it's in any way preferable to just having 1 (one) storage medium that holds your data

>BUT IT BOOTS FASTER BRO
yeah I'm certain those 10 seconds make up for this vomit inducing pile of horseshit
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>>377669051
There's always RAID once you hit that many drives.
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>>377669051
Im sorry for your retardation and your lack of money, here have a (you)
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>>377669051
no worries m8. I get it. You're poor. It's OK. A lot of people are.

I kid. SSDs aren't for everyone. I'm willing to pay the price premium for vastly superior load times in games. And encoding times. And non choppy smooth video editing. And having 1 storage medium is stupid. Imagine all my drives weren't SSDs for a second. Would it still anger you? I have 2 mechanical drives in that picture. 1TB each. One for primary storage and backup workspace. The other for backup of everything on the first. All volatile data that benefits from an SSD are well...on the SSDs. I'm planning on retiring the sub 500GB drives (except the NVME drive) soon. Buy a 2TB (or 4TB?) 850 EVO. As I said before, I've been buying SSDs when they were still "new tech".

And no one mentioned anything about boot times. That's just a bonus really. I sleep my PC more often than not. Gotta stop relying on that shit excuse to be anti-SSD.
>inb4 SHILL!!!
I have 6 high capacity mechanical drives in my server. Every type of drive has its use case.
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>>377669562
>>377669520
>SSD shills are this unable to handle the truth
Not matter how much money you have, SSDs are just straight up inferior.

If you have infinite money you buy a real hard drive and not a bunch of USB sticks
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>>377669689
I bet you think you are so fucking funny.
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>>377669783
You actually seem pretty mad right now

Like full on "I have run out of arguments and the thing I own is a piece of shit but I can't admit it to myself or anyone else" kind of mad

Did you have to delete some game saves to make space for that reaction image?
I bet it loads REAL fast though!
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>>377654458
Because when I turn my computer off I shouldn't have the time to make a sandwich, get a glass of water, rob a bank, and build a new computer before windows fucking boots up

OS on HDD is slower than Magic Johnsons HIV.
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>>377647628
When I play R6 Siege you can tell who has SSDs and who doesn't. Those that do load the map instantly. Those that don't are the ones we are waiting on.

It basically comes down to that. Do you really want to bottleneck on a hard drive?
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>>377670001
>OS on HDD is slower than Magic Johnsons HIV.
Top fucking kek
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>>377669689
OK friend. If that's how you feel, that's alright. I know and enjoy the benefits of my SSDs (albeit the small size as well). But as I said before, I don't know where you're coming from. My server has 6 "real hard drives" 4x4TB and 2x6TB all HGST branded. and I still buy SSDs without pause.

If you're attempting to troll, get outside more. You seem bored. Maybe go for a walk while you're cloning you mechanical drive over to your new SSD?
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>>377670004
I sure would love to reduce my storage space to 250GB so I can wait for other people

Sounds amazing!
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>>377670081
I'm using a 1 TB SSD that I got for $150 two years ago during the November sales. Bait better faggot.
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>>377669051
this is fucking stupid and ignorant. I bought a 120gig SSD for 40 bucks from best buy on a fucking whim a few years back and I've never looked back. I've literally shoved SSD's in at least 6 family/friends computers over the last few years and EVERYONE feels how great it is. If there is any upgrade someone has to make it would be at least putting an OS on an SSD.

Its not a fucking meme. It's been the future of computers for the last 10 years, and although the super affordable phase of a year and a half ago passed, if you own a desktop its a fucking disservice to prioritize a GPU upgrade over an SSD.

>>377669906
>>377669689
This is sad.
>>377670081
newfriend its possible to have multiple drives connected. Its not a reduction, but increasing storage by 256 gigs

Sometimes I forget /v/ is full of children. I need to move on with my life
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>>377669906
not him but
>spend 50 bucks on a tiny SSD
>put OS on it
>buy a 2tb hard drive
>put all my games on it
>go to sleep
>wake up
>hit power button on gaymen pc
>log in 5 seconds later
>library of 200 games at my fingertips

You know you can buy both and have all the upsides and no downsides right?

Like you're not literally locked out of owning a Hard Drive if you buy an SSD.
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>>377670185
>1TB

wow that's SO MUCH! is what I would say were it 2007
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>>377669562
I get non-choppy video editing on a WD Gold HDD using Adobe Premiere. Granted I don't work with 4K or 8K video. SSDs will absolutely not help with encoding times though, even with my 12 core CPU I can't encode faster than I write on a WD Gold.

Again with the caveat being that I don't do 4K or 8K. I don't know if it is possible to encode faster than you can write with higher resolution video, but I suspect not.

Not that guy, though. I have 2 SSDs. I just use them for video games.
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>>377670278
You don't need to store your blu ray rips on your SSD dumbass.
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>>377670219
not him but
>don't buy an SSD
>buy a 6TB hard drive
>put my OS and everything else on it so I don't have to select where programs go and I don't have to copy over image files and delete them every time I drag one on my desktop
>go to sleep
>wake up
>my computer was in sleep mode
>press mouse button and it's literally already turned on I just enter my password and that's it

woah...
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>>377670278
nigger how many advice animals are you saving motherfucker holy shit how is 1tb not a notably large amount of data. How much fucking storage space do you need?

Did you just install Doom 2016 twelve times on one drive?
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>>377670439
>you can only install 12 games at once
>minus OS and some other shit
>this is acceptable

I'm LOVING it
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>>377670439
I wanna see a shitty comic of this. A visibly autistic kid exclaiming their love for Doom and installing it as many times as possible, only to find out he can only fit 13 copies of it on his SSD then raging out and posting on /v/
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>>377670540
I can only think of 3 games nearing 100 gigs released
DOOM
gears of war 4
GTA V

1 TB is plenty of space for the average person's games
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>>377670431
not him but
>selecting what drive to save an image or install a game on is too hard
>buying a 50 dollar SSD is fucking gay, I'd rather just spend 180+ dollars on a 6tb hard drive that'll fail in 3 years.
>Then I never have to go through the hassle of clicking twice and turning my computer off!
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>>377670804
Naw dude you need an 8tb hard drive for minecraft and windows, how could 120gb ssd faggots even compete.
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>>377670841
>having to do a billion annoying little things is totally not a factor in this when I only got an SSD for the sake of convenience in the first place

wew
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>>377670804
Halo 5 is 97.8
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>>377670804
Just for fun I checked out the size of the games on my SSD. And took the opportunity to clean out all these folders from uninstalled games because a mod or some such was still there
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>>377671039
>choosing a designated drive/folder to save and install into once is too hard
>it's not like computers are smart enough to save your preferences on where to install things
>you can't choose "install into d:drive" once and have them save that option for the other 400 games you install
>in fact you actually need to open command line and personally program an update and download steams rootkit so your SSD OS kernals are capable of handling having more than one drive being an option
>faggots that have to click to put their computer into sleep mode are fucking ape retards, expending the extra energy for 2 inches in wrist movement daily AND 2 clicks is too much for your average person
>not like me. I'm too smart to get an SSD.
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>>377666595

Please die.
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>>377671329
The awful thing is that isn't 100gb of content. It's 100gb of uncompressed textures and sounds that you won't be able to tell the difference from
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>>377650528
>still living in your parents house
>not understanding that electricity costs money
manchild
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>>377671503
>>choosing a designated drive/folder to save and install into once is too hard
You mean two

One on the SSD, one on your real hard drive

And then you get to pick and drag around and reinstall all day long, oh the fun!
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>>377671682
No, that's not the awful thing. The awful thing is that it's 100GB of uncompressed low res textures that look like they belong in a game from 2001 and 70% of which are duplicates.
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>>377671793
haah waah

that's terrible
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>>377671727
>Having to pay extra $10 a month
>Expensive
How's that starbucks job going Mr. Adult?
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>>377671782
>One on the SSD, one on your real hard drive

Is.. is he serious? Are you serious? Do you think that you need to have EVERYTHING installed on your HDD and SSD?

You just.. you just pick the folder on your SSD once and it'll save that and install your game there every time until you choose to change it.

Literally what drugs did you smoke today that made you think you have to keep all your games installed on your HDD and then drag'n'drop them into your SSD for loading times. Because I want those. I want those fucking drugs because I wish for 5 hours that I could be that fucking dense.
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>>377672198
>install game
>whoops looks like my 50GB USB stick that I paid $500 ran out of storage space again, looks like I need to put it on my real hard drive where all my other games and pretty much all the other things I have on this computer are located
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>>377672043
Its way more than 10 bucks a month especially if you run it in high power mode the whole time.
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>>377672445
If you can afford a luxury item like an SSD
You can afford basic shit like electricity
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>>377672543
*like a gaming PC and video games
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>>377672417
>all SSDs are small
>all SSDs are overpriced
So what is this USB thing you're saying? You know the SSD goes inside the case right?
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>>377654319
Go away and don't come back
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In PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS, it makes scenery, buildings, objects, etc. load faster.

In all games it drastically improves loading time.
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>>377671682
Not just uncompressed sounds, uncompressed sounds in every possible language.
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>>377672543
You actually think like this mr rich man? Just because you can afford something doesn't mean you should buy it or spend money on it. Every little expense adds up especially when you own a car, house, etc.
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>>377672632
>>all SSDs are small
>>all SSDs are overpriced

Yes that's right Sherlock
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>>377650350
This

People used to say SSDs weren't worth it for gaming because they were expensive and space was limited but it's not so bad anymore.

When I bought my 120GB SSD 5 years ago it cost $120 but today you can get over 400GB for the same amount of money. The only reason I don't use an SSD for games is because I'm too cheap and I don't want to poor any more money into this old PC.
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>>377672721
You didn't answer my question Moriarty.
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>>377672417
People who aren't retarded don't have this problem. I'm sorry about your disability, but you need to stop posting.
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>>377667051
That is green oolong dejobong matcha bueno gusto brew sencha gokuro juengje cold milk ice topping vitamine enriched tea to you, my dear Fedorine sire monsieur.
In fact, my tea (read above) is running on Linux right now.
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>>377672704
Jesus that's awful.
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>>377666666
this goy
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>>377672705
>I'm not paying a single extra cent for electricity
>But I will totally spend a shitload of cash on a car a Gaymer PC and an SSD memedrive for super fast boot times
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>>377672778
>people who spend time managing their storage space, dragging files back and forth, deleting and reinstalling shit and spring through some other hoops can manage their SSD space

woah who would have thought, it's almost like that was the exact point being made
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I put off installing my SSD when it was delivered to me and now that I need it, I can't find it anywhere.
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>NOT USING TAPE DRIVES TO STORE MY PETABYTES OF VIDEO GAMES

WOW YOU GUYS ARE ALL RETARDS
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>>377672942
>>377672916
post your computer specs
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>>377672916
Because if you buy one expensive thing then it's worth never attempting to keep up with small things. Why shower? You went into a pool a few months ago.

The extra 7 dollars a month I'd be spending if I ran my computer would compound over the course of a year into what could have been enough money to buy a hard drive you dimwitted sand-filled pussy.
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Fucking hell, after 2 years my notebook HDD died on me. Good shit that I had backups of everything, but having to go through something like this is so annoying.

When are they making hard disks that DON'T DIE? I like the idea of having faster stuff, but ever lasting HDDs seem so much more appealing to me...
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>>377647721
i have a 2TB Western Digital Blue (desktop) hard drive that reads at 150MB speed effectively.

So, we're talking about difference of loading game in 10 seconds vs loading it in 5 seconds (also cost an awful lot more per 1GB)
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>>377673208
Cool false equivalence you dumb shit
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>>377673392
Was it Western Digital? If yes, it is a rule to disable forever their fucking obnoxious energy saving "feature" - head parking after 8 seconds of idling.

Have one from the notebook that was nearly dead from that feature in 2010 - still works to this day after i discovered the source of the issue.
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>>377673581
>it is a rule to disable forever their fucking obnoxious energy saving "feature"

How do i do this?
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>>377673738
google "disable head parking western digital". there's a tool called wdidle3 or something - you can read in the multiple articles how to use it.
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>>377673815
I googled it but it looks like its really just meant for WD Greens and Reds, which i dont have. I have a Blue.
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>>377674043
it work for my blue model as well (google your exact model of hard drive with word "wdidle3" and see, if some peeps have successfully patched the setting)

Also, an easier way would be to download free Crystaldiskinfo
http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskInfo/index-e.html

and disable AAM/APM management for selected hard drive in settings and put the application to autostart (so, the head parking will be delayed as long as the app is running)
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>>377652923
Have fun with that ransomware.
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>>377672763
>but today you can get over 400GB for the same amount of money.
Prices are going up very recently, so that's not entirely true unless you go with a garbage brand. Prices have definitely fallen from 5 years though, I agree. I'm running 250 GBs right now, shit's great.
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>>377673581
Only caviar blue, green and red have parking.
WD Blue doesn't have it.

>>377673392
Learn to dont drop your laptop.
Put a SSD on it.
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>>377675417
>Learn to dont drop your laptop

Pajeet the SSD salesman still has much to learn it seems
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>>377674348
Not a problem with common sense.
Also with Malwarebytes premium if common sense fails.
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>>377647628
it makes no difference, don't fall for the placebo effect.
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>>377675775
WannaCry can affect you even on Win7, especially without updates. Best of luck with that.
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>>377675796
>No difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCItBX8288Y
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>>377675417
i had blue desktop with head parking
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>>377666630
>tfw tiny SSD for boot
>bigger SSD for games, pictures, music
>big hdd's for cartoons, porn, movies, etc
1080p60fps JAV's are too good to me
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I have a 1tb HDD and it's fine for me. Is going full SSD when I upgrade a meme or would it be better than 250ssd 1tb HDD? Money isn't much of an issue.
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>>377675975
>bigger SSD for games, pictures, musi
>pictures and music
Why?
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>>377675908
Yes, if you are retarded enough to execute it, and was patched for 7 in March.
And still, Malwarebytes stops it right away.
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>>377654319
You probably never owned an SSD. The improvement is so massive that even the most skeptycal disbelievers wouldn't say that shit.
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>>377676003
Not him but i have my Reaction image folder in my SSD.
Have you ever tried to load 30k unorganized images in a HDD ordered by date?
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>>377676003
>decide to shitpost on 4chan
>20gb of reaction images immediately on demand
As far as music goes, I don't have that much on tap so I don't mind setting aside the ~7gb for music.
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>>377676003
random access time or whatever the heck that thing is called - the only thing ssd are effectively superior, compared to hdd
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>>377650528
>shortens hardware life
>heats up the room
>uses electricity
or you know I could buy an ssd and have every program load up instantly and not have to wait several minutes whenever I am required to restart
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>>377653979
>3.500 MB/s read speed

Well shit. One can dream.
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>>377647628
It delivered remarkably lackluster results on most games I've tried. I'd say it's not a must for vidya, but definitely a need for the OS and your most used programs, though.
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>>377647628
if you dont like whirring sounds and loading
I actually like my crucial better than my samsung tho
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>>377676163
"Up to" 3,500MB/s.

M2 SSDs have one huge design flaw, fast ones get too hot and active thermal throttling fast.

And because Muh form factor nobody has added a heatsink on them other than the cooper sticker that barely does anything.
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>>377676163
and here's a data plan to complement your incredibly expensive read speeds, sir
http://www.viewqwest.com/
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>>377672763
>The only reason I don't use an SSD for games is because I'm too cheap and I don't want to poor any more money into this old PC.

That's a weird reason. It's one of the few parts where it doesn't make any difference if you transfer it from one PC to another.
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>>377665151
>waah, why must i be poor and retarded :(((
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>>377676328
Listen, you don't wanna enjoy the latest tech innovations and shitpost, go ahead. But don't pretend you're gonna be able to install and execute your programs from a cloud server.
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>People unironically refusing to get a cheap QoL improvement
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>>377647628
I would get an SSD, but according to what I've been hearing you pretty much need to do a fresh reinstall of your entire computer since you need to put the OS on it and I have too much shit (2TB) to just start fresh all over again.
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>tfw 250GB SSD for OS
>1TB SSD for Games
>2TB HDD for porns
>2TB HDD for everything that isnt porns or games

couldn't be happier
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>>377676518
i, uh... what?!
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>>377676162
>shortens hardware life
cold boots shorten them even faster

>heats up the room
?

>uses electricity
Wow dude, why don't you also turn off your phone at night? Gotta save that precious electricity!
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>>377676534
As this thread has proven SDDs are not a flat quality of life improvement.

When you can get a 2TB SSD for maybe twice the price of an HDD, then it's a quality of life improvement everyone should get
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>>377676760
see
>>377675910
This thread just proved what is confirmed daily here.

Shitposters and people giving fake information have too much free time and bait gets replies.
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>>377676746
>cold boots shorten them even faster
[citation needed]
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>>377650528
When your PC boots in 5 seconds you may as well shut it down for the night, or day in my case.
>>
SSDs only really boost load times on PCs. You have a lot of options too. You can use a pcie slot for an m.2 ssd for the fastest speeds or use intels optane to speed up your existing hdds. Optane isn't as fast as an ssd, but it can be a lot cheaper. Though you need to have a compatible mobo and cpu to use it. I just use a regular ssd cause I'm not worried about shaving a couple more seconds off my load screens.
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>>377654319
It has more benifits than loading times.
You don't have to defrag an SSD.

This is the most retarded post I've seen in years.
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>>377676946
Dealing with two storage mediums is inconvenient. I understand some of you people have put up with that C D drive bullshit forever to the point that you got used to the retardation of it, but I just have C.
No D's on my computer.

"My PC boots 5 seconds faster when I shut it down instead of using sleep mode" is not worth that inconvenience.

When you can buy a reasonably sized SSD for less than 12 times the price of an HDD I will get one, but I won't fuck around with this bullshit for the sake of my PC booting a little faster

>but use it for games
I just don't have the nerve to install a game I want to play right now on my SSD, then uninstall it when I don't feel like playing it anymore to make room for another game only to uninstall that one so I can redownload the first game again later
Having one large storage medium is very nice and not something I will give up for slightly faster booting
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>>377676760
You can get a 480GB SSD for $140, that's not even bad for the performance it offers.

Loading times aren't the only thng it improves either. In games where there's a ton of shit to render, SSDs can make them load faster. An example of that is PUBG. Having PUBG on an SSD is a drastic performance increase.

If you really can't afford $140, maybe it's best if you don't worry about game performance as much.
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>>377673445
>150MB
>half the speed of 500MB
>not including IOPs which makes some SSDs with similar "read speed" not even able to compete

8/10 got me to reply
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>>377677242
>Dealing with two storage mediums is inconvenient.
What do you mean, its easier.
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>>377676637
n-nothing
Guess I misinterpreted your post.
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>>377677270
480GB is not enough, it's of no use to me whatsoever

It's just more inconvenience, I would pay you more if you gave me an HDD instead of forcing me to do this swip swap bullshit

see >>377677242
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>>377677242
>Dealing with two storage mediums is inconvenient.
Literally how, it's not inconvenient at all, you're just a stubborn faggot.

>When you can buy a reasonably sized SSD for less than 12 times
480GB SSD is $140, that's about 3x the price of a normal 500GB HDD. That's not a bad deal at all, especially if you only want to put your OS on it and games that need the SSD. There's plenty of space for that.

>>377677375
>480GB is not enough, it's of no use to me whatsoever
You're not supposed to install EVERY GAME onto your SSD, only the ones that need it. If you have like 100 games installed that's pretty damn retarded of you. I have many games installed on my 240GB and even that's enough, EVEN with GTAV, Fallout 4, etc. on it.
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>>377677593
480 is not enough. I won't bother with anything below 2TB

If I can't just put all my shit where I want I won't install and uninstall and download and redownload things, I won't put up with that, it's not worth it to me at all.

Dealing with two storage mediums is very inconvenient, I merged my C and D for a reason.
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>>377677841
External hard drive for steam backups. Not fucking hard.
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>>377677242
>Dealing with two storage mediums is inconvenient
No, it's not. I'm on the extreme end with 4 drives because my mobo will let me hook up 6 but storage is so fucking cheap it's one of the more fun upgrades you can make.
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>>377677841
Alright I can tell you're just going to be a stubborn close-minded faggot, so good luck with that. You must be a riot at parties.
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I was massively skeptical that SSDs would make that much of a difference, but having just installed one and found that Windows boots from cold in 10 seconds and that load times of my installed games has almost halved, I gotta say I'm converted.
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>>377677949
Oh so now I need an external hard drive connected at all times too? Push files back and forth all day so I can look at one second less loading time?
No thanks

>>377678010
You are just an idiot, look at your image, that's beyond fucking garbage and enough to convince any sane person to never buy an SSD
Nice fedora names too

>>377678059
>why won't everyone drink my cool aid? after all I'm always right and anyone that doesn't think five seconds fewer boot time is worth putting up with a bunch of annoying bullshit clearly just hasn't gone and invested 1400 dollars into this product I love so much!!

This shit just isn't worth it
"wooo it's faster" ok then but that doesn't sell me if literally every single thing other than that is inferior to what I have right now
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>Hmm... Maybe I should get an SSD... Lemme check how much I have left on my HDD
>55GB out of 1TB
>250GB out of those 1TB is filled with music

Goddamn.... What a fucking shame that I just can't let myself go through those normie apps for music, like Spotify or Apple Music, I always have this feeling that they won't have all the shit I like. Well, I still carry an 8GB ipod with me to this day, so I can't say I'm not an "oldie"

It's getting harder and harder to juggle music and podcasts in a way that at least the ones I listen the most can fit in only 8GB... Time to move on and adapt myself to modern times, perhaps
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>>377678227
this reads like marketing copy

like this is the type of shit i have people give out to viral marketers

>i was so skeptical, but now that i purchased this product and see how amazing it is - i'm sold!
>my brother has an SSD and when we play games together he always has to wait on me, it's so lame!
>don't forget to attach an image of the product!
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>>377676746
>cold boots shorten them even faster
no it doesn't

>?
Electricity create heat and your computer pushes that hot air out into the room.
>inb4 but mine doesn't run anything intensive that would generate heat
then why the fuck are you so afraid to shut it down?

>Wow dude, why don't you also turn off your phone at night? Gotta save that precious electricity!
Sleep modes exist specifically for the purpose of saving electricity without sacrificing inconvenience in startup times. But fortunately I can install an ssd into my pc to avoid the inconvenience of slow startups and can save more electricity.

Did my last point stump you or something?
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Call me when I can use one of these to actually replace my current hard drive

I don't want to buy a glorified partition, partitions are lame
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>>377678227
I'm running two SSDs at the moment. One for my OS and one for my games.

>OS - Sandisk - SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
>Games - Kingston - SSDNow UV400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

I gotta say I'm loving this shit. All my games load faster, and my PC boots up in no time at all. Fucking stellar.
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>>377678356
nice blog nobody cares
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>>377650528
Electricity costs man. They can get over the price of buying a whole new rig if you never shut it off.
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>>377678629
You replied, you do.
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>>377678356
Get a cheap NAS and punt your music onto it. That way you can also stream it around your house without relying on your PC being on.
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>>377650710
>i pity the fool who has their OS on a HDD in the year 2017
Because I'm not autistic. I press the power button, get breakfast and a drink and once I'm back its done. I bet you just a fidget spinner for the 5 seconds it takes to boot too.
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>>377678958
>I'm superior to you because I'm poor
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>>377652186
>using a SSD for videos
Being this retarded is your fault.
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>>377679230
I could buy a 4TB if I wanted, money isn't an issue. I just don't give a fuck because I'm not in the room when it boots, I can get up from the chair which your fat nigger ass can't do clearly.
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>>377678958
my pc:
>wake up
>eat breakfast
>press power button on PC
>silent, on my desktop in 5 seconds

ur pc:
>wake up
>want to get on pc
>know i can't because i forgot to leave it on during the night
>turn it on
>WHHHHHIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>cover my ears from the noise and frantically pace while humming loudly to try to calm my autistic nerves
>plastic case has been melting slowly over time
>ignore it
>go eat breakfast
>wife's son goes in my room to take over my pc for minecraft because his dad said he can
>WHY THE FUCK ISN'T THE PC ON
>rush into my room
>blue screen
>get the pc back on for wife's son aftering waiting an hour for it to boot up
>boot up minecraft
>silky smooth 24fps
>go brag on /v/ about how i'm saving money
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>>377679718
So this is true autism. I just told you how my morning and booting experience is, but clearly your fedora was in the way. It must be kismet that people honestly this delusional that their $300 250GB is worth the purchase. Make sure to keep spinning the fidget spinner you cuck.
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>>377680004
I just wanted to make myself laugh, no ill intent. Mission accomplished.
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>>377650710
SSD on ps3 makes rpg speedruns few hours shorter
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>>377680072
>i-i-i was playing dumb
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>>377680072
not even him but

>lol anon im just joshing xDD im totes not retartz
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>>377680072
>>377679718
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>>377680236
No I meant every word I said, I just didn't really care how he reacted about it.
>>
im surprised there are people on here that outright deny the performance of SSDs. i don't understand how those people can still be this deep in denial when literally every piece of imperial evidence proves you wrong.
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>>377670213
>newfriend its possible to have multiple drives connected. Its not a reduction, but increasing storage by 256 gigs
Don't worry, most people like this are fucking retarded and use Macs/Laptops or prebuilt Dell desktops. Most people don't even realize you can have more than 1 harddrive, let alone how to install a new one, or how slow they get when you have

-Steam
-Email
-Browser
-Messaging clients
-Video
-Music

all installed and stored on the same drive and running at the same time.

I got a 256GB m.2 that I use for booting, and got a 250 EVO for free. When my laptop's 1TB HDD dies (going for nearly 2 years so far since I take care of my laptops, my last HDD is actually in my PS3 now) I'll swap out the EVO into it to make it faster.
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>>377678958
>press power
>computer POSTs
>boots to windows screen
>resuming windows
>120 seconds later, it's finally done
>login
>the feeling of everything moving like a non-Newtonian fluid as it chugs to start back up browser tabs, email client, and other programs as they beg for CPU and HDD usage

Or I can just shut my PC off and boot back up before I'm able to walk away from the power button
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>>377680004
OK, enjoy the sound of a crab colony migration while your computer is on
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>people actually suggesting to fill up SSDs with 100% of their storage space
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>>377650350
>loading times in Total Warhammer or Battlefield 1 without SSD
>2 minutes, sometimes more
>2 minutes
it was your toaster,not the hdd
>>
>>377681818
How the fuck do you not fill up 250GB all the way
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>>377681818
Fight me.
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>>377682312
By not filling it up on purpose so it doesn't fuck with the speeds
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>>377682687
>on purpose
It's 250 GB

That, that will fill itself up
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>>377647628

1TB Samsung SSD for my OS and Games in my PC I built last year is the most noticeable upgrade. Loading times are non existent. OS boots up in like 10-15 seconds.
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>>377682832
my 190/250 left says otherwise
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>>377647721
honestly I don't notice much, yeah it's faster but it's not instantaneous or anything, the best part about it is that it doesn't have problems with pre-allocating files in torrents or needing defrag
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I can't even stand having an HDD in my anymore, all my drives are SSDs. Noiseless and ultra fast.
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>>377653595
If you can get a 1TB SSD for $250 I'd say it's pretty worth it
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>>377654319
your pc will feel much faster just try it it's not just the loading times
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>>377686153
>just try it
Oh yes let me just spend a shitload of money to try something
>>
>>377678456
The temperature rollercoaster of cold boots leads to shrinking and expanding of the hardware which is waaaaay more damaging to electronics than simply being on all the time. Obvious exceptions are moving parts like in a HDD and shit that degrades through normal usage like SSDs.
>>
>>377686192
try it on a computer that already has it princess
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>>377686192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eULFf6F5Ri8

*this video is from 2011 so a single modern ssd would give a similar result
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My 5 year old SSD just died the other day while my 10+ years old mechanical harddrives keep chugging along.
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>>377647628
Absolutely. Especially if you put your OS and all your commonly used programs on it.
Consider how many read/write actions your PC does during regular use. Now consider that ALL of those read actions become 600% faster.
>>
>>377686653
>running ancient hardware
What are you, some kinda poorfag?
>>
>>377686529
It's interesting how fast hardware progression moves.
I have half of that throughput with just two SSDs in raid in my rig I finished just a few months ago.
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>>377686813
____________yes
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>>377686813
suck my giant ancient dick
you ancient fag
>>
>>377665956
>>377666209
>>377666595
I'm pretty sure you can make it so that your local disk C: is the SSD while your local disk D: can be the HDD. You literally don't have to delete anything this way. OS and important stuff on the SSD and everything else on the HDD.
>>
>>377647628
Literally objectively superior in every regard
>>
>>377665627
I like my SSDs like I like my tanks. Well armored... and made in the US.
>>
>>377686932
>C
>D
That's one too many

Give me C or give me an HDD
>>
>>377665627
>motherboardoncarpet.jpg
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>>377677242
>Dealing with two storage mediums is inconvenient. I understand some of you people have put up with that C D drive bullshit forever to the point that you got used to the retardation of it, but I just have C.
Except having your non-program data in a separate partition is outright beneficial you dumb pile of shit, no matter how many hard drives you have in your computer. If and when something goes pear shaped and the need to reinstall arises, I can just steamroll over C:\ and not give a fuck since all the shit I care about is on the other partition, meanwhile (You) have to dance around and jump through hoops to try and avoid a multi-terabyte blob of data being lost in a single click.
>>
>>377683359
I don't notice much of a difference, but I did set my SDD to maximum performance.
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>>377687507
What the fuck are you even talking about

> If and when something goes pear shaped and the need to reinstall arises
What the fuck are you doing with your computer you moron
>>
>>377687663
He stores and runs his OS on a sort of buffer drive like any reasonable individual. Whenever you reinstall or change OS or even hardware it's very easy to just wipe C or move the other drives instead of storing your personal data on the same drive as the OS like a fool.
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>>377688256
>Whenever you reinstall or change OS

hwat
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>>377647628
>Loads of single player games I play from time to time --> HDD
>Handful of multiplayer games I play all the time --> SSD

I wouldn't put 51GB of The Witcher 3 on an SSD just to shave a few seconds off load times. However, having Overwatch start up and load maps in a couple of seconds is nice.
>>
I got one for OS and basic programs, and enough space to install games I'm currently playing

Loved it so much I got another bigger one and now I'm fully SSD. No regrets, got a good black friday deal too
>>
>>377688318
are you just pretending?
>>
>>377655209
Nope it's the game, bigger battles take ages on Tw Warhammer on a hdd, especially late campaign.

This was on a 6700k and 980ti + 2tb wd black
>>
I can't wait until SSDs become cheaper per MB than HDDs. I look forward to throwing the big, noisy, unreliable things in the bin.
>>
>tfw monitor takes longer to start than booting into Windows
Only meme with SSDs.
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SSDs are best
>>
SSD's are not expensive anymore, stop making these retarded threads.
>>
>>377650528
Because it doesn't take 5 minutes to boot.
>>
>>377654319
then there's this guy
>>
>>377653250
I had a friend who was rich and retarded. He bought a massive SSD and stored all his files on it.
>>
>>377650528
what's the point of leaving it on?
>>
>>377650528
Because it's not the 90s and it takes 5-10 seconds to boot.
>>
This thread showed me that:
>there are people on /v/ who can't handle more than 1 physical drive
>there are people on /v/ who can't manage what is downloaded to which drive
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>>377689628
>/v/ attracts normies
gee who'da thunk it

pic related, a hard drive
>>
>>377689415
How can you circlejerk over screenshots of uptimes if you don't leave your computer switched on 24/7?
>>
>>377689764
now this is shitposting
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>>377647628

Coming from someone who hasn't built a PC since 2008, and only just starting experiencing SSD performance in February, it does make a difference.

Fucking huge difference for loading times. Having GTA V's character change finish off in a few seconds is amazing, is as having Windows boot up in 5 seconds, so restarting isn't a chore anymore.
>>
So ssd can improve the frame rate in games?
>>
>>377690167
No, SSD improves load times e.g. when booting the game or switching levels.
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>>377647628
>Have both an m.2 drive and a 7200rpm HDD
>Hardly notice a difference in games
I'm convinced anything outside of OS boot time is a meme.
>>
>>377690267
Then why are people saying it's more important than upgrading your gpu?
>>
>>377690335

My OS boots in like 10 - 15 seconds and I have a WD Caviar Blue. It's the startup programs/services that really slow it down.
>>
>>377690349
Different things are different priorities for different people.

In terms of high stable framerate during gaming, you need a good GPU, decent processor and enough RAM. Everything else is almost irrelevant. If this is your only concern, you don't need an SSD.

However if you want an all-round PC that is nice to use, an SSD is a great part of it. Put your OS and frequently used programs on it and it'll make the computer feel 'fast'. It boots quickly, web browsing is snappier, file explorer is faster, games and programs load quicker and so on. Upgrading from one processor or GPU to another will produce a subtle improvement, a few frames per second here or there. Upgrading from no SSD to having an SSD produces an improvement you will notice straight away.

It used to be that SSDs were expensive and only justafiable if the rest of the PC was made of premium parts. Now, they're cheap enough to throw in any old build and you'll get the benefit.
>>
>>377690540

>limited writes

Fuck that. I have a 10 year old HDD that's still kicking.
>>
>>377690619
>falling for the limited writes meme
Unless you spend all day every day for a decade dragging 500gb files onto and off of your SSD then you don't need to worry about running out of writes.

The odds of a modern SSD lasting 10 years and a modern HDD lasting 10 years are horribly skewed towards the SSD. Moving parts are a permanent point of weakness.
>>
>>377690619
Write wear is the least of your worries on a modern SSD, the rated 80 TB of writes is actually very conservative and most last for hundreds upon hundreds of terabytes over the official estimate. One test required 2400 TB of writes on a Samsung 840 Pro before it conked out, even the supposedly fragile TLC-based Evo soaked some 700 terabytes.
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>>377678958
>Not having 120GB SSD for OS only and 2TB HDD for everything else
I understand not buying a large as fuck SSD for other stuff beacuse they're expensive as fuck, but spending 50$ on a 120GB SSD for OS is the best decision you can make.
>>
>>377647628
In a PC yes, in a console mostly nope.
>>
>>377691064
You should actually buy a 240GB unit, modern 120GB ones usually leave some controller channels unused and that cuts down on your random access performance. The larger ones last longer as well.
>>
>>377690814
all my hardrives are still working
the m.2 on my laptop died with less than 300gb written.
>>
>>377650528
Child detected. Daddy still paying all the utility bills. Mommy washing your shitstained underoos and feeding your worthless ass.
>>
>>377691064
> 2tb

small time
especially now in the internet age
>>
Give it 2-3 years and it'll be standard for all modern PC gaming.

Its already essentially mandatory for GTA5
>>
>mom asks me what i want for Christmas
>tell her nothing is on my mind really. if i wanted anything i could buy it myself
>she insists to get me something
>"i guess i could use another hard drive"
>she goes to Microcenter and buys a 1TB Samsung SSD for $350
>told her about regular hard drives being $50
>"oh well."
>>
>>377691306
If you want anecdotes, my Sandisk Extreme II has some 21 thousand hours and 12 TB of writes on it, and it's still trucking on like new. Death through writes is actually very rare, usually it's shit like the controller deciding to spontaneously explode or the NAND table getting corrupted.
>>
>>377691763
This is another negative of SSDs
>dude everything will load so much faster on my SSD in the future, it will be great!
Nope

Publishers will just assume you have an SSD and make the loads dogshit to the point that if you have anything installed on a harddrive and not your 250GB SSD you will be waiting for 10 minutes every time

Have fun downloading and redownloading shit to it also, data caps are becoming more and more common

It will be great, thanks SSD shills!
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>>377692009
>data caps are becoming more and more common

It has to suck being american.
>tfw no data caps
>>
>>377649223
this
an SSD is one of the best upgrades you can make
>>
>>377692210
Oh man you got me now, I'm convinced!

Just ordered myself a sweet Samsung™ Evo™ 850!

Can't wait for this baby to arrive!
>>
>>377664657
Do you have any source for the console part of your statement?
>>
>>377692009
Yeah. That's definitely going to happen.
>>
Is /v/ so contrarian now that we're actually arguing against SSDs? Unironically? Jesus, what a world.
>>
This might sounds really stupid, but if I just get an SSD, and replace my HDD with it, will it work? Do I need to transfer shit to the SSD?
>>
>>377653250

i have the 2tb version i use for my steam library, boot is on a 256gb stick nvme ssd which is even faster, so impressed ive considered buying a 4tb, only issue is the pricing, if it was less than twice the price of the 2tb id consider it.

2.5-3x times the cost of the 2tb is just silly. It needs to be under a grand.
>>
QUICK QUESTION IN CAPS SO YOU'LL READ THIS BULLSHIT
IF I PLACE ARMA 3 ON A SSD WILL IT FIX THE SHITTY FREEZE THAT I GET WHEN I AIM?
>>
>>377677231
SSDs have to be defragged.
>>
>>377692869
There's a bunch of free cloning software out there that makes it painless.
>>
>>377692946
That doesn't honestly sound like an issue a faster hard drive will fix, anon. I think your problem lies elsewhere.
>>
>>377652340
If you don't have OW installed on your SSD you load in after someone has already instalocked [your main here]
>>
>>377652715
>what is raid, what is partitioning
>>
>>377690335
Pretty much, SSD is certainly faster at loading times but its only really noticeable in certain games like frostbite titles and GTAV, the difference is negligible in most games in my experience.

>>377690405
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>>377650350

From shutdown to desktop in 7 seconds? I highly doubt that. I have an SSD (Samsung 850 Pro) a 4790K, and 16GB Ram with barely any startup processes and it still takes 15 seconds.
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>>377689918

Nice temps for a kaby i7
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>>377694726
you are like little baby
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>>377694214
>From shutdown to desktop in 7 seconds? I highly doubt that.

When you say "shutdown to desktop", are we talking about booting to windows login?

Because thats pretty much 7 seconds for me.
>>
>>377694892

Delid?
>>
>>377695214
Nope, stock IHS. After fucking up a delid in the past I learned my lesson.
>>
>>377695291

impressive
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>>377695291

what cooler? Did u turn off HTT and ram oc?
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>>377695737
Custom water loop, hyperthreading on.

For RAM I just enabled XMP.
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>>377650483

nigger linux gaming is just barely starting to take off. i'm not switching to fucking bsd and crying about nogames again. also a lot of GPL'd software is on BSD too.
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>>377691604
Insecure Poorfag detected
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