Tyranny Didn't Sell: The Usual Obsidian Flop

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>Pillars of Eternity is great
>Sells well
>Sequel gets successfully funded
>Tyranny is garbage
>Sells badly
Woah, really makes you think.

>>377646472
>>Pillars of Eternity is great

Didn't even sell better than Divinity: Original Sin

>>377646272
I'm not an investor, i only care if the game is good.
Maybe you're confused about your role in this whole consumer-developer relationship.

wasnt tyranny pretty much the same as poe?

>>377646472

Is it garbage, really? I was hoping to get it at a good sale price sometime.

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game looks like shit

>>377646272
Didn't we have the exact same thread yesterday?

>>377646272
Maybe because nobody gives a shit about Numenera. Planescape rode on the D&D brand.

Here's my impression of a codexer:

This game, this... Piles Of Shiternity, by none other than Niggersidian E̶n̶t̶e̶r̶t̶a̶i̶n̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ is decline of the highest order, eclipsing even Brian Faggo's Waste Of Time 2.

>>377646272
>there's someone making the same thread every day with autistic persistence for some reason.

>>377646762
Pfft. I wish, buddy. It was Pillars of Eternity except four times worse in every single department.

>>377646657
Both are still great games and sold enough to get a sequel that fans clearly wanted.

>>377646472
I actually got bored of Pillars about halfway through.

Yet I'm hooked to Baldur's Gate, I never got to play it before. I wonder why is that?
The world building in BG seems more interesting to me, at least.

>>377646927
What about that sentence is wrong?

The only thing wrong with your post is implying RPGCodex hates PoE - they're as big of plebs as you and love that shit.

>>377646272
Larian won the race to be first to catch the nostalgia wave.
It was like a can of spam to a starving man and the fans devoured it ravenously.
By the time Tranny came out it was just another can of spam.

The nostalgia wave crashed at ankle level so STFU about the return of the golden age.

even call of duty has better dialogue than the autism cancer that obshitian releases.

>>377647081
your out of your god damned mind dude. i'd gladly play pillar's of eternity 5 more times before having to put up with baldur's gate 1's low level d&d bullshit again.

>>377647081
>Yet I'm hooked to Baldur's Gate, I never got to play it before. I wonder why is that?

This happened to me with Bioshock. Pirated it, thought it was just okay with a bad ending.

Downloaded and played System Shock 2 because that was the supposed inspiration, and I beat it shortly that week because of how good it was.

>The world building in BG seems more interesting to me, at least.

Because it's not forced on you like Niggers of Eternity or Tyranny which lore dumps at you within first second you start the game.

>>377647094
>What about that sentence is wrong?

It's the way they talk tough, reminiscent of /b/ 10 years, not the opinion itself.

>they're as big of plebs as you

Who says I'm a pleb?

>they love that shit

No they don't.

>>377646272
This was Obsidian deconstructing the trope they are good writers.

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>>377647496

>>377647409
>Because it's not forced on you like Niggers of Eternity or Tyranny which lore dumps at you within first second you start the game.
because tyranny and pillars of eternity are both original settings whereas BG was part of the forgotten realms setting which was already the basic go to D&D setting for anyone who had done tabletop. coincidentally i think forgotten realms is boring as fuck as a setting was really enjoyed the setting of pillars and tyranny.

>>377646915

Nah, the D&D association didn't help Planescape: Torment. T$R nerds were obsessed with Forgotten Realms. Spelljammer and Planescape were too fantastic for your average neckbeard who only wanted to play in generic Tolkeinverse that their Drizzt Drourden and Dragonlance took place it.
Numenerea was trying to ride coattails of a game none of them had any connection to using a SJWy setting/dev team.

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>>377647496

>>377647496
you'd be correct except this game was written by the "new writers". None of the people who worked on PoE or New Vegas wrote for Tyranny.

go home archangel

I liked Tyranny better than PoE because awesome setting > Celtic gibberish

>>377647880
So Obsidian decided to throw their own game to the wolves?

>>377647880
By "new writers" you mean whoever was left.
I believe the janitor got to write a char.

why do you keep making this thread

>>377647795

Loyal "unless she senses weakness" isn't loyalty:

giving or showing firm and constant support or allegiance to a person or institution

>>377646827
There've been threads the same every day for a week or so now.
Hmm...

>>377648303
we can just have a non-butthurt rpg discussion and ignore op

>>377648382
>Loyal "unless she senses weakness" isn't loyalty:

It's how women understand loyalty

Multiple reasons.

In order to make one of these games a big hit you need to make it extremely memorable and to do so you need :

1. An extremely good story with memorable set-pieces.
2. Characters that people talk about independently of the game
3. Memorable love interests
4. No episodic content shit or "we'll continue this in the next game guise, tune in!!"
5. Setting and gameplay that are not completely derivative crap

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>>377648652

inb4 that autist who keeps spamming the current Steam player numbers for modern CRPGs even though PoE was on sale at the time

>>377648860
Is that the same autist that spam Steam reviews?

>>377648860
>Steam

why would I buy on steam instead of gog

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>>377648652
>1. An extremely good story with memorable set-pieces.

Oil Tanker, Frank Horrigan, Vault 13, Monty Python

>2. Characters that people talk about independently of the game

Myron, Sulik, Goris, Marcus

>3. Memorable love interests

Bishop wife and daughter

>4. No episodic content shit or "we'll continue this in the next game guise, tune in!!"

Yup

>5. Setting and gameplay that are not completely derivative crap

Post apoc setting and non-party based combat

>>377646272
>a successor to a cult game
>doesn't sell
WELL NO FUCKING SHIT

good thing it was crowd funded and thus automatically turned a profit

>>377648652
>Setting and gameplay that are not completely derivative crap
Bullshit

>>377649164
You have got your lines crossed buddy

>>377649081
I always buy on gog but I can see the appeal of steam

playtime, achievements, trading cards, all games together, just everything in one place

How many times is this thread gonna be posted? It's the same codex faggot OP, image of the edgy furry from Tyranny, Divinity shills and more codexian bullshit

>>377646272
I wonder how much PoE 2 will sale, I bet it will do worse than the first one

>>377646769

It's okay. The setting is pretty neat, the combat system could arguably be better than PoE with some tweaking (combination attacks with 2-3 party members were pretty cool and useful), but the game itself is kinda short.

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>>377647795
This wouldn't be out of place in some autist's MRP profile on Moon Guard or Wyrmrest Accord

Look how seamless it fits in

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>>377648652

140,000 sales seems pretty good to me, especially when 70,000 of them are pure profit.
We're going to get more great games like these.
Stay mad

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>>377646272

>We're going to have this exact same thread multiple times per day, every day, for the foreseeable future.

>>377646827
We have it every 8 hours or so

Tides of Numenera was a great game and anybody who says otherwise is a baby who can't read.
Fight me

>>377647795

Whatever happened to good female writes like the one who did the Legacy of Kain series?

>>377646272
I liked Tyranny but it's really overpriced, doesn't exactly deliver on a lot of expectations it sets up, and ends on an extremely anticlimatic and railroaded cliffhanger. Feels like a Disc 1 but you have to wait for maybe Disc 2 to come out and also pay for it.

>Loyal "until she senses weakness"

That's the exact opposite of what loyalty means though. Loyalty is standing beside someone even in a moment of weakness; disloyal treason is backstabbing them the moment you think you can get away with it. That sentence merely enforces the realization that Kills-in-Shadow must be kept in a master-slave relationship by the Overlord because it's an animal that lacks the capacity to understand a higher level abstract idea like loyalty. That being the case it's true that she isn't really evil since she lacks the moral perspective to be good or evil--it's just an instict-driven beast. You don't apply human alignments to dogs and cats, do you? They're amoral beasts.

>>377650035
And you're going to like it

why do you keep making this thread?

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>>377646272
I liked the gameplay and most of the character, but the general story and writing is shit also you choices doesn't matter as much as they make you believe.
It's a 6.5 game, would play again just to try the dlc.

>>377650112
She is probably sick and tired of it. Amy was not just a writer, she was passionate about game design. There was that one time when she gave an interview about how much she enjoyed the technical aspects of making the seamless map of the first Soul Reaver, and how proud they were when they managed to make it work.

Do you think a person like her would still find enjoyment in modern AAA development?

>>377650216
He got laughed out of codex and is taking his revenge here

>>377648183
No. Josh Sawyer, Eric Fenstermaker and Carrie Patel are also writers who didn't contribute to Tyranny. Everyone else was new hires and 1 experienced guy (Matt MacLean).

tell me about rpg codex, should I consider going there or is it full of >RPG ""fans""

Welcome to /v/ where 3/4 of the threads are the exact same image and 1st post every single day and the mods somehow do nothing about it because its loosely video games. /v/ of all boards seems the most likely to cause psychosis of any of the sites boards. If I had to take a guess Id say 65% of the users are on anti-psychotics.

All they had to do was keep Avellone and write Fallout games.

What could have been...

>>377650594
it's the best place to discuss RPGs

rpgcodex is where the grognards dwell. only the most low-budget indie games pass mustard with them, anything else that's undergone any kind of "casualization" is SHIIIIIIIIT.

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>>377650779
That's wrong though, both oldfag grognards and newfags at the codex adored Witcher 3

>>377650594
They jerk off over everything isometric, turn based, and/or Obsidian.
Fucking hate anything from Japan and Skyrim/Witcher babby games.

>>377650779
And that is why they voted The Witcher 3 as the best game of the past decade, because it is the king of no-budget indie games.

>>377650943
>>377650904

>>377650943
sounds good. I thought they'd be like the 'reeee I hate everything' people we get here like OP

>>377651017
Witcher 3 is the best game of the last decade at least kid
Now go on with your daily shitposting

>>377650943
That's not true, they fucking love Rance.

>>377650904
Fake and gay, potato shills etc

>>377651171
I assumed it was potato shills with new accounts too until it was posted statistics that old users from 2005 and earlier really liked the game too

>>377651137
Do you have problems with reading comprehension?

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>>377651137
>Good idea
Allow players to choose dialogue that they'd actually want to say whether it be good, evil or neutral aka any RPG worth its salt

>Bad idea
Force the player to play someone that at worst, can only be chaotic neutral cause the character is still a good guy that can't do anything bad aka Witcher 3

>Good idea
Having character stats that define your character and allow for non violent approaches aka Fallout and Planescape Torment

>Bad idea
Being forced to play a single set character that does nothing but sword fight aka Geralt in Witcher 3

>Good idea
Being able to roleplay a character of several races, genders, etc aka Dragon Age Origin and Morrowind

>Bad idea
Despite the lore saying otherwise, force the character to play only one character aka Geralt in Witcher 3

>Good idea
Having multiple characters that fulfill multiple roles your main PC can't aka Baldur's Gate 1/2

>Bad idea
Being a multiclassing Mary Sue aka Geralt in Witcher 3

>Good idea
Having Batman vision in a Batman game aka Arkham games

>Bad idea
Having Batman vision in a non-Batman game aka Witcher 3

>>377651276
Really says something about their low standards that they'd elect an action based Telltale like Witcher 3 as the best RPG.

>>377652010
Best RPG from 2012-2016 period yes. Just accept that it's a damn good RPG.

>>377652113
But it's not a real RPG

>>377646769
no, why are you trusting /v/?

>>377652113

Alternatively, just accept how bad the years were for RPGs, when you're down to it.

AS an old school RPG fan, I really don't get the love for TW3. I mean, to each their own, but I while I cna understand the love for it coming from fans of another genre, from RPG fans?

Makes little sense.

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*blocks your path*

>>377652435
RPGCodex are fans in the fanatic sense. Like people who watch the 8th, 9th and 10th entries in horror flicks

>>377646272
Tyranny is good but ending is disapointing its like
<===TO BE CONTINUED===

>>377651892
this post is shit

>>377646272
>a game that was literally pick BLUE, RED or NEUTRAL sold like shit
No shit

>>377652713
Explain how it's wrong

Just remembered a specific moment in the game that made me somewhat mad seeing how little thought had been given to the the implications of the setting.

You want to pass a bridge and there's mercenary levying a pay for passage. And there's that whole conversation about how they have aright to make a leaving, but not once is mentioned the fact that... you're the representative of the power that just conquered the land, and of course you can't allow random people to just levy taxes, you *can't* allow it. No central power survives that kind of disruption in prerogatives.
They'd have to pay tribute to Kyros, and/or obtain permission first.

You have to stop it.

>>377652826
it's doing the "real RPG" meme. there's a game, and whether or not you think it's good seems to depend on whether people describe it as a roleplaying game or not. awful

>>377653103
Witcher 3 is either a good game or a bad RPG

Which is it?

>>377653245
I haven't played the witcher 3 so I have no opinion on the matter sorry

>>377649082
Literally nobody talks about fallout 1 or 2 characters or story, it's always some neckbeard talking about how it's better than something and thats it.
If you want a game like he said, just look at Persona 4 or 5.

>>377646272
>full price for a 2D isometric RPG
>2017

Yikes! Stay tuned

>>>>377650451
Please anon don't make me cry.
I loved Boomerang Kuwanger's song and that's made by a wimmenz too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiFZpHaii5g
Forcing fems into an environment defeats the purpose of the few that actually are there for an intense desire to work in that field.

>>377653443
You're technically right but in persona's case it's just waifufaggotry

>>377653443
>If you want a game like he said, just look at Persona 4 or 5.

Cringe

>>377653671
No? People talk about the story and the villains and everything.

>>377646769
It is fun. Interesting story

>>377653535
A woman was responsible for some of the best music to ever grace video games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-2mO1JiEo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyP3LvYX1sQ

Did someone at Obsidian finally wake up and cancel the dlc for this garbage?

>>377654816
I'm sure if you post the thread a few more times they will

I'm glad it failed. crpgs aren't fun.

>>377654816
Obsidian has been dead ever since MCA left. Now it's just Sawyer and his blatant autism.

>>377655095
>>377655310
>>377655807
Post the one where he gets triggered by harem anime.

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tl;dr: Because he sucks at getting women in real life, he wants his characters to be as big of losers as he is (if he isn't a fag like Tim Cain)

>>377656512
>it's been 2 years
>this faggot is still making these posts
I'm surprised you got tired of spamming that daily thread. Are you the OP by any chance? Wouldn't surprise me if you were.

Anyway, it's well known that Sawyer has a girlfriend with whom he's lived for at least 10 years.

>>377656681
Hi Josh.
How's it feel to be a laughing stock on par with Randy Pitchford?

>>377656681
Who's his bull?

JUUUUST

>>377656868
>projecting your cuck fetish onto others

Sad!

>>377647081
It's because the combat in PoE fucking sucks.

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>Forget fixing our bad story and dialogue - what needs to be fixed is this joke about trannies

Obsidians priorities are fucked

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>Le Balance Man didn't work on Tyranny
>Didn't sell
TY BASED BALANCED MAN

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>Tell me
>Tell me
>Tell me
>(Sarcastic tell me)

Wow. Obsidian are truly the masters of RPGs.

>>377657396
Why do you /pol/tards always post this

The new version written by that backer was infinitely more insulting

>>377658065
If you had the dispositions turned on you'd see that those 4 dialogue options actually affect how Edér will perceive you.

>>377657571
if only Tyranny were better balanced...

>>377656512
josh sawyer is a total cuck and his games suck but he's completely right about game romances being cringeworthy

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>>377646272
thank you copy pasta for convincing me to buy additional copies

Is posting this thread every day considered spam yet?

>>377658467
>God romances suck
*Persona 4 or 5 sell better than any Obshittian game ever made*

>>377658204
post it

>>377658593
does the dialogue system in those games work like Baldurs Gate and PoE where your character says nothing outside of what dialogue option you click on?

>>377658204
There is nothing insulting about it, the new poem just simply says it was censored.

>>377658539
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/subject/Bigger%20Cu-ck%20Than%20Anthony%20Burch
It's probably the same dude. If he wasn't banned for that, I don't think he'll be banned for this.
Expect this thread everyday for at least one year.

>>377658539
We're still getting persona waifu threads so what do you think

>>377659056
I don't even give a shit about Tyranny, but seeing this thread every day is annoying.
>>377659137
Persona threads aren't being contrarian faggots, from what I've seen. It's much more tolerable than a faggot reposting the same thread every day because he's so autistically triggered by a video game.

>>377655095
What's wrong with the armor change?

> Make an SJW-themed CRPG.

> It doesn't sell.

Who would have thought?

Shit I completely forgot about this game.

It came out not even recently. That shows how little I've been following WRPGs. I will probably give it a try.

>>377646272
>lace your game with progressivist propaganda to the detriment of overall quality
>people don't buy your game
woah really made me think

>>377647118
I'm afraid this anon may have a point

>>377647795
>loyal (unless shes not loyal)

what did they mean by this

>Pillars is good after DLC/patches
>Sells well
>Wasteland 2 is a buggy broken piece of shit after Arizona, even in the DC
>Doesn't sell as well
>Tryanny sucks dick
>Doesn't sell at all
>Planescape sucks dick
>Doesn't sell at all

Man I wonder what the reason is? Maybe, when you make good games, people buy them?

>>377647118
>crashed
>PoE2 surpasses PoE1 funding
>DivOS2 surpasses DivOS1 funding
>Bards Tale in development
>Wasteland 3 in development
>Pathfrinder interested in contracting Obsidian for a Pathfinder cRPG
I don't think you know what "crashed" means.

>>377646769
fun story
excellent spell crafting
too short

I just wanted to take Divinity Original Sin engine and use it with custom maps to play D&D online

Anyway to do it?

>>377659859
POE isn't a good game, it rode the nostalgia wave by pretend it was as good as BG1 (it isn't)

>>377659859

I was legitimately disappointed in Numenera. I didn't find it atrociously awful, but it wasn't even near what I was hoping for. A shame as I really like far flung post apocalyptic settings.

>>377658818
>where your character says nothing outside of what dialogue option you click on?
yes

actually, your character is motly silent outside of answering questions and sometimes having an inner voice explaining things ("you feel queasy" or "you sense X from Y")

>>377660959
your post isn't a good post

>>377658258
the point is that you can't tell him to shut up

>>377661994
You can though. When he interjects, you can just tell him to "fuck off". The retard who wanted to post that bait image however chose the "no, tell me more" option, which leads to said picture.

>>377647081

Forgotten Realms was even at the time of BG1 an old well established setting filled with shit-tons of lore that many different hands have contributed to. It is nearly impossible for one company on their own construct a setting with as many complexities as FR. The gameplay of PoE is definitely superior to BG1 at least.

That being said like all settings for stories you can take or leave it. Plenty of people don't like FR. As for me I view it along with Tolkien's work as basically defining what is meant by high fantasy.

>>377659771
He doesn't really. Both Wasteland 2 and Shadowrun were faster to come out than Divinity.

>>377662496
Sure but they were both either cuck shit or just shit

>>377660170
>PoE2 surpasses PoE1 funding
Only because of investors, It didn't even get half as many backers as the first campaign.

>DivOS2 surpasses DivOS1 funding
The funding of D:OS was very low compared to other high profile KS projects that came before and after it. The funding of D:OS2 was still much lower than those.

>Pathfrinder interested in contracting Obsidian for a Pathfinder cRPG
Bull fucking shit. The survey was never Obsidian's, they even said so. They just helped out by letting people know about it.

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>>377647795
>7 years of writing experience
>still writes like a brain-damaged teenager

throw her back, lads

>>377647795
>Kills-in-Shadow, written by Sucks-at-Writing

>>377660654
D:OS2 will have Game Master mode that does this.

Wasteland 2 and Shadowrun Returns had the benefit of not having to make their own engine, opting to use Unity instead.

Unity has a battery of issues but it's useful for developers who lack technical know-how. Larian had the technical know-how to make their own engine and DivOS and DivOS2 will benefit GREATLY from this. Meanwhile, Unity projects will still be stuck with engine problems like the shitty loading times, gameplay limitations, overall general ugliness (Harebrained made a much aesthetically better looking game than Brownland 2 though)

>>377664056
When the fuck are we getting Divinity 3?

>>377664056
Please tell me D:OS2 will have character import/exporting like the older D&D and NWN games. That's the only thing that stopped D:OS1 from being perfect.

>>377664120
Divine Divinity 2 when?

>>377665326
...That already happened, you moron. Years ago.

Fuck RPGCodex

>>377665201
I don't think so, at least googling it didn't turn up anything concrete. Sorry m8

>>377659137
Those threads are not copy-pastas from the same autistic faggot though

>>377652494
What if you're okay with him calling you a Wench?

I have not been able to get into any of their recent 2d rpgs.

I think they're around mostly because of Gen Y gamers looking back with too thick nostalgia goggles

>>377667350
"Filthy traitor trash! You're a disgrace to your gender!"

>>377667745
Is what all the SJWs will say to you.