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Why is it always Catholics? Why is it never Baptists, or Lutherans?

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Why is it always Catholics? Why is it never Baptists, or Lutherans?
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>>377640832
irl it's always evangelicals
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Make another thing is too busy. With catholics you only need tropes
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>>377640832
because nu-christians are pussies, they don't even go on crusades
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Catholics are just better known/more easily recognizable.

Any other denomination some subsection of people would just be confused so they just go with Catholicism instead.
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Because heretics loathe and fear the only true church of Jesus Christ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxDG-vbXEp0
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>>377641769
No, The good christians are the only true faith of jesus crisht, the catholics were a heretic cult who attacked them.
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You ruin the world for centuries and fuck enough children, you pay the price.
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>>377641885
>no true scotsman
REPENT, HERETIC
ONE STONE
ONE CHURCH
ONE GOD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZGMqKLGFpA
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Why not? Make your own game about baptists instead of bitching
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Other denominations are more known for scams. The really ugly shit usually comes from catholicism and that makes for more interesting stories.
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Catholics have a good deal of ceremony, attire, tradition, and ritual.

It looks nicer compared to the walmart protestant.

Catholic looks like a fine cuisine, carefully crafted, with a multitude of flavors. Protestant is like getting a burger from cheap fast food joint: quick, easy, and cheap.

Catholics singing in Latin vs Evangelicals speaking in tongues. One requires learning, the other is bullshit
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Because the vast majority of Christians were evil? Are we just gonna ignore this?

Oh wait, 4chan is going through a wannabe republican phase. Gotcha.
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Catholics are just Jews in disguise.
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>>377642224
Naw man, the good chrisitans were a cult of catholic seperatists that focused mainly on following the book to a point.

Catholics, the greedy, power hungry cunts like the rest, went over and preached the good word. But they wouldn't convert because they were basically a small marxist hipster commune living in poverty to work for the betterment of the community and christian faith and there was the preist, dressed head to toe in rich cloth and expensive jewelry.

So after a while the catholics just took every willing man who murders in the name of christ and slaughtered the hippie fucks for thinking themselves above the holy church because they actually don't shave their sideburns or eat crawfish like the bible says.

Wild times.
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>>377642737
While I do find it funny how 4chan is going through a Christian and Neocon phase and its laughably contrarian compared to what we were a decade ago, Christians are really not that evil. Certainly better than jews and muslimes
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>>377642983
>catholic seperatists
There is your problem, heretic.
Sugarcoat your heretical sins how much you want, you're still a heretic and you will burn.
Repent, you misbegotten sinner.
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>>377643179
Muslims I can understand but I have never been convinced by the conspiracy theories about Jews.
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>>377643432
A lack of credible evidence will do that.
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>>377643404
Ahem, Heretic who followed the bible better than you did*
Fixed it for you :)
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>>377643179
I guess I should have specified and said "catholics used to be evil".
What with the witch burnings, crusades, and whatnot.
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>>377643736
Crusades were really defensive in nature and witches had it coming
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>>377643564
H E R E T I C
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>>377643736
How is burning witches evil? Are you really defending witches now?
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>>377643854
Hey it's the bad fat guy from Outlast II.
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Christianity seems to have all other religions beat in terms of stupid, asinine details and basically autism.

Muslims are basically split into two groups, and there isn't that much disagreement about how to be a good Muslim. Jews are whatever, Hindus are meh.

Christianity seems super focused on rules and telling other Christians the're wrong.
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>>377643980
Yeah, with the difference is that Catholicism is the only true church, anything else is heresy.
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>>377643980

>sunni and shia getting along

???????

they fucking hate eachother more than they hate the west
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>>377643980
>Muslims are basically split into two groups, and there isn't that much disagreement about how to be a good Muslim.
you cannot even begin to comprehend how wrong you are
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>>377640832
Because of fedora faggots and because catholicism has real visible power. For some reason people ignore Mormons even though they're pretty powerful as well. Probably because fedora faggots come from traditional families.
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>>377640832
Is it usually Catholics? That's pretty amusing since the 'crazy religious extremist in rural nowhere' is extremist protestants
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>>377643736
>crusades were evil
I didn't know responses to invasion were evil
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>>377644095
>>377644182
I'm pretty sure their disagreement is about legitimate religious authority and geopolitical issues more than details of Islam.
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>>377640832
Crusades and they seem to be composed of like 25% pedophiles.
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>>377643736
>burning witches
>Catholics
>not the Protestant heretics.
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>>377643980
>and there isn't that much disagreement about how to be a good Muslim.
There is a reason why historically speaking there were so many more dedicated muslim jurists as opposed to catholic ones. Muslim religious law is weaved through every aspect of arab society to a degree that canon law never quite managed to be. And when you take hadiths into account it all becomes a remarkable maze of half-legal, half-religious commandments.
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>>377643910
None of them were REAL witches so they basically burned old strange ladies who knew some "lore" about plants or how to abort babies with needles.
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>>377643854
Dude I bet you haven't even read the Erasmus and Luther debates.
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>>377644263
heretics use the pedo and lol rich jewelry excuses to shit on catholicism, because they're blind, stupid and lack insight on themselves and the faith they try to practice
just look at how catholicism and orthodoxy treat each other, there are differences but they do not condemn each other to the point of fighting each other
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>>377640832
>they never are jews
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Pretty timely to release this when Netflix has their new documentary dealing with Catholic school rape by Priests.
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>>377644574
And i bet you won't see the lake of sulfur coming for ya, you heretic.
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>>377643910
Of course, for witches doesn't exist, for there are no magic or deals with devils for such would mean going against god would have a boon, but god is almighty and all power lie with him, and since he made hell and demons as punishment for the wicked there cannot be any boons.

So witches and their ilk, are but shadowy nightmares of fools and heretics. Now please, whip yourself for your sins and lay your sins out for your lord.
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>>377644190
daily reminder that Mormons all have been taught to keep food storage in their homes, and the church owns giant bunkers with seeds and all sorts of thing in the event of a large scale disaster

if Fallout ever becomes real, they'll probably be the face of civilization for a good while.
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>>377640832
My guess is the western crowd that plays these types of games are most familiar with, not necessarily catholicism but christianity. Even I who don't really believe in conventional religion was brought up christian and know more about the bible than your average practicing christian.
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>>377644190
Well Mormons mainly live in their own communauties and cities where everyone is a mormon.
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>>377644746
Fine by me. At least they're nice people.
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>>377641037
Evangelicals are the creepiest humans imaginable. I really don't mind religion in general, I think that whatever works for you, works for you, but Evangelicals push the crazy waaay too fucking hard. I grew up in a town run by them and I swear those people actually believed that Dinosaurs and men walked the Earth at the same time. They take the whole Bible as 100% literal truth (except I guess the parts about enslaving your own daughter but I tried not to ask about that shit)
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>>377643980
All religions are based on rules dumbass, but you're still complaining about a religion having rules.
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This game has amazing visuals. Is there a game with even better graphics?
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>>377644351
At what point in history were the Franks attacked by the Seljuks? (hint: never)
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Crusades started because Byzantium asked for help. Also to keep the Euros from constantly trying to kill each other.
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>>377640832

Because Catholic churches are the best looking. It's the reason why the appear in American Media (not as a main focus, but when a movie otherwise about something else needs a church scene or two) so much despite Anglo and Jewish anti-catholicism.
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>>377645059
Charlie Hebdo, dumbass.
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>>377641769
But there are hardly any Coptics left
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>>377645281
>crusades
>charlie hebdo
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>tfw Orthodox has the best music

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u0n1lN0I1_I
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>>377643736

Catholics never burned witches (mainly because it is the official stance of the Catholic Church that magic does not exist and claiming someone was a witch could get you in more trouble then them before the reformation) outside of solitary cases when a peasant/town mob forced such a thing to occur. You can thank the protestants for that one.
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>>377644071

amen
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>>377644351
Most Crusades were just power plays by the Vatican. They knew the secular kingdoms of Europe wanted more independence from the church, so every so often when a Pope was in deep shit and/or needed a convenient distraction, they'd call a Crusade and bilk the kingdoms for soldiers to fight for them.

Most of the crusaders barely made it to Anatolia, much less Judea. They roamed around Central and Eastern Europe, going from town to town asking for "alms". If they felt like it they'd just sack the town anyways. Often the European Kings would have to send soldiers to fight off the crusaders and get them to stop raiding the towns.

Crusaders were basically bandits with permission from God.
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>>377645059

Alexios I Komnenos was and he asked the Pope for help.
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>>377641037
I know a family who's part of this sick cult
>she's borderline retarded almost Chrischan tier
>He's flipping burgers at the age of 40
>barely makes a living
>2 kids.
when i asked them about the kids and their low income - The Lord will provide.
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>>377645453
I miss Jack Chick.
He was actually a mostly levelheaded guy who made them for his fundamentalist audience and a lot of the quirks of his comics existed because he had to cater to them. (like his symbol swearing %&$#?@!, he found that dumb himself but his main audience complained about his swearing)
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>>377645453
>Chick Tracts
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>>377645524
>persona 5
>sequel is Persona 4
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>>377645524
I wonder if they ever learned that you can summon Lucifer himself in those games. I'd love to see someone like that reacted to their child summoning the Lord of Hell so that he can save the world with the power of friendship
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>>377645938
anon, please that clearly says Persona 3.
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>>377644969
This is the problem I have when someone's excuse for why they're against something is because it's in the bible. The bible also forbids piercings and wearing clothing of mixed fabrics but a lot of ultra-conservative types wear earrings or mixed material clothing.
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>>377643980
>islam
>not autism
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>>377644910
same here for me being ex-mormon, they're pretty cool except for being anti lgbt

I just wanted a cute trap bf
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>>377640832
because their pope wears a funny hat.
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>>377646086
Are they shock the gays homophobes or they just think being actively homosexual goes against their religion?
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>>377646057
>The bible also forbids piercings and wearing clothing of mixed fabrics
Anon, that's Mosaic Law. The Law was fulfilled in Christ.
Don't you think we'd be practicing these if these laws were still in effect?
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>>377645453
wtf i hate blue öyster cult now
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>>377645453

>UN Flag

everytime
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>>377643854
>was raised Lutherin
>never really hit me how retarded it was until I was like 18 and my church got a new pastor
I probably would have dropped it sooner if my old pastor wasn't one of the nicest and happiest guys ever
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>>377646168
>being actively homosexual goes against their religion?
The Bible straight up says homosexuality is a nono, so any Christians that say its cool aren't really doing it right

You dont have to hate them, but you can't really support it either.
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>>377646265
It's fine, dude.
Worry not, there is still hope.
Repent, confess, convert and you shall inherit the kingdom of heaven.
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>>377645453
>Lycanthropy
Thank God for Chick Tracks or I'd have never known those goddamn werewolves were really out there.
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>>377643980
>Qandeel Baloch 'strangled to death by brother in honour killing'
Islam iz kewl doe xDDDD


get cancer
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>tfw you lived through the Internet's edgy atheist phase to see religion come back in style
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>>377646168
just acting on it is bad

there's plenty of gay but married mormons I know, I don't know how they can do it desu- I'm lucky that I'm bi
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>>377646560
Same. I remember playing DnD as a kid, just goofing around and having a good time. If my character died I never minded and just rolled up a new one. It wasn't until Jack Chick showed me that when a DnD character dies, the person playing them has to commit suicide. Since implementing that little house rule our sessions have been a lot more fun and productive.
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>>377646671
>when you base your world view off of old /b/ and 4chans need to contrarian
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>>377646789
It was everywhere dude, dont even bullshit.
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>>377646671
It's great, but these things go in a cycle. We just have to enjoy it until it goes out of flavour again.
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>>377646671
>>377646789
>>377646851
To be fair, it's still around. It's just not as prominent now that the euphoric meme blossomed and made it fun to mock fedoras.
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>>377646086
>The biology teacher in my highschool was a mormon and had no problem with the theory of evolution
Does that go against anything in Mormonism? It always seemed weird to me.
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>>377647103
Mormons and Cathoics are more accepting of science than most other denoms, hell they've historically contributed to science.

Its bastard Protestants that give Christianity the bad name it has in the west, at least after the Catholics got (most) of their act together
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>>377640832
Lutherans never did nothin to no one. Cathonigs though rape little boys on a regular basis and tricked people into bringing the Church into power. Catholicism is a very dangerous cult of lies, child rape and world domination.
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I don't get why there are so many apparently devout/pious Christians on 4chan. I'm assuming they're not the ones telling other anons to kill themselves, talking about/posting pornography or onanism, or being unkind to their fellow man in general.
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>>377646905
I'd prefer if we all just settled into an "Irreverent Existentialist" equilibrium. Whether God does or does not exist should not be such a contentious issue, much less whether so-and-so people are his chosen as opposed to such-and-such. I'd much rather everyone just crack open a beer and joke about how stupid everything is.
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I like whatever Liberation Theology is.
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>>377647316
Martin Luther was the original shitposter
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>>377640832
Because Catholicism relates to the central power in Rome. Frankly, the Catholic Church is like a big semi-formal, evil empire. Considering the crimes they've committed over the past 2000 years, they should be taken apart.
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>>377646671

If you cannot see why events transpired as they have, you are a blind fool.

Atheism was a stigma as far as the early 00's and, on the internet, atheists could find safe haven to speak their beliefs or lack thereof. Atheists found ways to gather and reveal their numbers which meant they could come out in force and match the religious voices. As the 00's passed, Atheism or any form of a lacking of beliefs became mainstream and the discrimination turned the other way. Many atheists saw themselves in this discrimination or felt pity. Hardcore anti-theists faced moderate atheists and the whole fedoracore euphoric memes popped up which grounded many of the militant atheists.

Religion hasn't so much come back in style as it is allowed to share its voice unmolested. Modern religion, through the internet, still faces decreasing numbers.
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Because Catholics have imagery. Others don't. Oppulent catholic shit looks cool as hell.
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>>377647375
>I'd much rather everyone just crack open a beer and joke about how stupid everything is.

It's called post-modernism, and it was a mistake.
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Why were they killed? They didn't break the law.
Janet Reno justified killing the children because they were "children of pedophiles" without any base for her claims. I hope there is a hell because I want her to burn in it for an eternity.
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>>377647356
You'd be surprised what one can get away with.
"Love thy neighbor as yourself." Since everyone here is full of self-loathing it checks out.
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>>377647356
4chan Christians are ironic Christians
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>>377645938
>persona 5

Either you can't read or you're retarded.
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>>377644746
explains New Canaan and the likes
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>>377646671
Religion is not coming back in style at all on the internet. It's just that religious people are tired of athiesm being the common way on the internet and are being more vocal now. It's not more popular than it ever was. And in few places will you actually see Christians popping up outside of when it's actually mentioned like in this thread.
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>>377647492
Au contraire. I fucking love post-modernism. I want Jorge Borges and Thomas Pynchon and Mark Z Danielewski to cum on my face. Hell, get Neal Stephenson and Steve Erickson in on that shit too.

Post-modernism is my fucking waifu.
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>>377645453
>Cyberpunk culture

>>377647103
Mormonism goes against a lot of actual science and archaeology. The Book of Mormon is full of anachronisms and crazy bullshit about Israelite civilizations in Mexico and Romans in America, and something about Ancient Egyptian runes that never existed in Ancient Egypt and only Joseph Smith could read them because magic and angels. And also the presence of plants and animals that never existed in the New World prior to the 1500's.

Thankfully they keep that stupid shit to themselves and don't really try to convince non-Mormons about it.
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>>377640832
the catholics are the most corrupt
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>>377647356
You can believe in God and support organized religion without being involved in either or subscribing to said religion's ideologies.
Christianity is a literal cuckold religion, its foundation is based on letting your enemies fucking kill you. Its only saving grace is how much Jews hate it.
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>>377647259
Catholicism's flaws were never anti-intellectualism
It's problems were always related to the inherent corruption that springs up in large organizations.
A problem they have tried to fix (the Pope quitting his ambitions at being a monarch helped a LOT) but which will never vanish completely.
Not to mention the entire system moves at a glacial pace taking decades to decide on a single article of faith.
Then again some stability is often a good thing, so you don't have a random guy suddenly seeing the light of god, spewing bullshit and getting a following.
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Because Catholics are the biggest cucks. Doesn't help the pope advocates it
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>>377640832
This was once a regular practice of Cathcucks. Burning other Christians alive in the name of Jesus... for not worshiping the pope... Even though the scriptures are rather clear about never worshiping human idols, those bloodthirsty Catholics will deem anyone a Heretic who doesn't want to be part of the Catholic gibsmedats deathball.
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Judaism = Game
Christanity = Game 2 (+ Book of Mormon DLC)
Islam = Game 3: Reckoning
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>>377647356
I prefer being here to reddit. Much more familiar territory.
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>>377647510
I saw a documentary about that, fuck her.
>Trump will never be president in my lifetime
>dies November 7th
LMAO!
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If it were Jews being portrayed in the same evil light the game would be fucking obliterated for antisemitism in less than a second. There'd be a huge media outrage about it.
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>>377648081
Judaism = Crips
Christianity = Bloods
Islam = MS13
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>>377647375

First and foremost, there is one side of the isle that would have a word with you about how their creator and way of life is "stupid." Especially when there are some willing to kill themselves and others over a drawing of their prophet (innocent or otherwise).

The are others on the other side of the isle that wish it could be that way, but because of those beliefs they are stigmatized or otherwise made pariahs.
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>>377648205
I don't think there are any Jewish cults. Lots of Christian ones.
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>>377648085
I'm sure God would prefer you to use neither.
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>>377648138
Damn I wish she could have lived just a little longer to see it. That would have been perfect.
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>>377648265
>I don't think there are any Jewish cults
By definition every religion is a cult.
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>>377648374
It's not like I'm looking at porn. I'm either talking about vidya or baneposting.
Although I do spend a bit too much time here.
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>>377648265

Settlers
Hazidi
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>>377648265
>I don't think there are any Jewish cults.
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>>377646671
Faith is a natural defense to islamic extremism.
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>>377648265
Ultra-Orthodox Jews are basically a cult, and a pretty powerful one In Israel at that.
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>>377648563
You really don't need to have faith to want muslims to go and stay go
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>>377645453

>Upside down cross a satanic symbol, when its the symbol of St. Peter and the Pope (yeah I know Jack hated Catholics but still)
> Cyberpunk, LOTR, Harry Potter all gateways to demonic possession

At least he got Twilight right.
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>>377647376

Spotted the Marxist.
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>>377648563
>Extremism is a natural defense to extremism

Interesting.
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>>377648563
Religious fundamentalism is a direct reaction to modernity and secularism. So you aren't really distinguishing yourself with that
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>>377648727
Sword for sword, eye for an eye.
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>>377645524

I can't wait to see her reaction when her son summons mult-tit Satan.
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>>377647891

Wait, you dislike Christianity but hate Judaism as well? Are you an adherent of Islam, then?

It seems a bit silly to be a follower of generic "religion". I think most of them require that you believe in their specific brand for it to count.
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>>377648265
>zionists
>hollywood
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>>377648821
Which are Muslim tenets
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>>377648668
to be fair I know a few people who became wiccan because of Harry Potter.
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>>377648821
But Muslims have been causing terror, rape and stabbings in Christian countries and I don't see you doing shit, so don't bullshit me by saying sword for sword you fucking pussy
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>>377646192
Isn't the stuff about stoning your neighbor to death if they work on the sabbath still in effect tho
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>>377648821
I seem to recall a few people in some obscure religious text were against fighting fire with fire. Nah, probably not.
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>>377648882
What about Hollywood is a cult?
>inb4 muh propoganda
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>>377648950
The 4chan Christians are just LARPing dude.
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>>377641769
Why ARE Mormons so hated? They're pretty nice for the most part
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>>377647356

4chan is only Christian to the extent that it lets them Duus Vult over liberals and Islam. They don't give a shit about it beyond that for the most part.
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>>377648887
Muslims haven't been around as long as Christianity which had those tenets far longer. So has Judaism you disgusting pudgy antisemite.
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>>377648461
>I'm either talking about vidya or baneposting.
How do these things being you closer to God?
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>>377648945
No, that also is Mosaic Law. Remember that verse where Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"?
Repentance is the name of the game in the New Testament.
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>>377648945
There is a part in the bible where the disciples are gathering corn on the sabbath and the pharisees call them out on it only to be rebuked by Jesus. So no.
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>>377642675
>Catholics have a good deal of ceremony, attire, tradition, and ritual.

This. Easier to use iconography as well.
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>>377640832
most non religious people don't know there is a difference.
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>>377648878
Seems a bit silly to believe religion is moronic when you're an uneducated opie retard with the intelligence and experience of a middle-schooler.
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>>377640832
>Why is it always Catholics?
Because Catholics have a well known reputation for fucking kids and covering it up. Great for lazy storytellers to add MUH TRAGIC CHILDRAPE BACKSTORY.
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>>377648656
Say what you will but it was very effective and immune to any claims of intolerance.
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>>377643980
>>377642983
>>377642675
>>377645453
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>>377647356
>>377647867
>>377648007
>game and religion are connected
>suddenly anons are experts at religion even though they're all talking out of their ass

Really makes one ponder...
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>>377649129
I honestly feel like people should read the New Testament before the OT
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>>377649060

Because their religion is the most heretic. Joseph Smith claiming to be a prophet on Jesus level.
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>>377648945
I think the verse is "dont worry about people who work on the sabbath god will deal with them". Not religious but i picked this one up at some point because every crazy atheist brings that verse up.
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Because Protestants love to deface Catholicism due to insecurity about their own heresy.
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>>377649060
They are but their religion is bullshit.
>Special underwear
>Have to get felt up by women when you come of age
>Can't tell anyone about what the priest tells you in private
>Black people can't go to heaven
>Nevermind black people can go to heaven
>Don't drink soda cause it's evil
>Nevermind soda isn't evil
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>>377641769
Why would the only true church of Jesus be the one centered around saint idolatry?
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>>377640832
I mean, they're all shit.
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>>377649246

Nigga I grew up Catholic, go fuck yourself.
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Real question to religious people ITT. What makes you believe in your religion? Do you deny science or no? If so why do you believe something based on one book to stuff that can be demonstrably proven?
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>>377648974
anytime an actor says something against their narrative they have to publicly apologize or they get blacklisted

>Chris Pratt
>Tim Allen
>Charlton Heston
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>>377648265
Lol Israel is an ethno-religious state.
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>>377649117
They're a nice respite from work. I'm allowed to have hobbies.
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>>377640832
He's trying to stop Satan?
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>>377649246
My first schools were private churches. Fuck off, cathcuck.
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>>377649402
Examples of what they actually said? And don't tell me apologizing for anti-semitism is somehow wrong.
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>>377649402
what did chris pratt do?
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>>377649330
so much of that is false, I'm an ex-mormon and even I can tell that you just swallow whatever kool-aid you want to believe about "muh ebul mormans"
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i dont care about the game but do people here really believe catholicism is worst than islam
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>>377644071
Anything that lets you buttfuck kids, eh father Peter?
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>>377649394

Not religious but I have friends of many faiths and all of them have discussed their beliefs. More recently, I've been debating a Baptist friend.

It's a matter of faith and personal experience.
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>>377649496
he owns guns, goes hunting, and says that hollywood doesn't really focus on blue-collar scenarios
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>>377649534
Your grammar is "worst" than Islam.
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>>377649502
This is stuff that actual mormons have said happened to them. Some of it is what people have said to me in person. Talking to a mormon I know and I was talking about something he was dealing with and I asked about the advice his priest gave him and he told me he couldn't tell me.
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>>377649617
good for you billy
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>>377649030
Some of these posts are disgusting. Religion isn't some evening club you can join and then exit once you're tired. You really chose the right word, they're LARPing.
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>>377649394
Its a "gut feeling thing" from what I gather.
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What's the equivalent of Islam?

Why aren't any games set in an Islamic community? They also doubt the existence of dinosaurs and many other things.
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>>377649592
Blue collar sucks. Storytellers have known that since time immemorial.
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>>377649592
When did he have to apologize for that?
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>>377640832
we've got the hottest women

therefore we ar ethe craziest
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>>377649402

>Chris Pratt

Dude just got off a blockbuster GoG2

>Tim Allen

He became irrelevant in the 2000's - no more major roles and what major roles he had were terribad.

>Charlton Heston
>The Man who literally stared in Ben-Hur

No one remains top billing in Hollywood forever. He had his time and a number of movies, then he got old.
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>>377640832
Because everyone knows Catholics
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>>377649662
doesn't change the fact that most of what you listed is outright wrong or gross exaggeration to suit your needs
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>>377649728
devs dont have balls
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>>377649728
>Why aren't any games set in an Islamic community?

A lot of CoD games
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>>377649728
Why does this picture make me uncomfortable?
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>>377649187

For the record, I never said religion is moronic. I don't have any particular issues with religion, more people who claim who be followers but don't follow the tenets of their religion.
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>>377649546

To be fair, the faith doesn't approve - the priests are closet homos who are stashed away by the papacy instead of facing the angry mobs.
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>worshiping a jew
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>>377649394
It depends on what you mean by 'believe.'

It's one thing to interpret everything read in the Bible or whatever as 100% historical events, and another thing to acknowledge the story as potentially mythological but believing in it regarding the meaning of the story itself. Religion is a verrrrrry complicated thing
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>>377649837
Yes, but they are just background characters?

Why aren't there any portrayals of what its like to be in an Islamic community in the same way Outlast 2 portrayed Christians?
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>>377649795
Care to refute any?
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>>377649749
literally less than a month ago

>>377649774
>He became irrelevant in the 2000's
star of a hit show on ABC that they cancelled because he was a bit too friendly to the political Right

>>377649774
>Dude just got off a blockbuster GoG2
doesn't change the fact that he still had to apologize and that Jezebel and Salon were trying to do character assassination pieces on him when he first got big
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>>377649728
>They also doubt the existence of dinosaurs and many other things.
So do some of my Christian friends
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those evil christians getting ran over by trucks
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>>377649937
>literally less than a month ago
what
did
he
say
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Because "Catholic" is the only one anybody knows about. I seriously have no idea what the beliefs of any of those other religions are. What the fuck do Baptists think? Lutherians? Without scrolling back up I can't even remember the other one you said.
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>>377649446
Don't you think there are more wholesome hobbies out there filled with less temptation. What would your priest say if he say this site?
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>>377640832
Catholicism has a lot more history and power behind it
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>>377640832
because catholics are the only religion that elects a leader
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>>377650039
read the thread m8 >>377649592
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>>377649927
>felt up by women when you come of age
false, don't even know where you got this one from. was your mormon friend molested?
>black people can't go to heaven
it was holding the priesthood, nothing to do with going to heaven
>soda is evil
nothing in the Word of Wisdom says anything about soda, some members follow it to mean that caffeine and other drugs shouldn't be abused
>can't tell anyone about what "the priest" tells you in private
because if you've sinned and you tell your bishop, it's your business to take care of, not the whole congregation's. sorry they don't publicly flog themselves

literally the only thing you're right about is the special underwear. I think it's stupid as well, but they believe it's a symbol of their covenant with God, like the locks of Jews or the long hair of Samson
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>>377650061
I make an effort to avoid stuff that isn't proper. I'm not really concerned about any of that.
My priest would probably ask me if I'm still making sure to pray and keep on top of my studies.
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>>377650039
>>377650176
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Why don't any games do the same with:

Judaism?
Islam?

Almost as if they are afraid
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>>377650474
>Islam
Do modern military shooters count?
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4chan became religious out of spite

Prove me wrong
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>>377650523
in those they barelly talk about islam
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>>377649927
not him, but i'm also an inactive member, and i can go through all of them for you, even though there's no way I'll change your mind.

>special underwear
this is the least wrong thing here. it is no different in function than a yamulka or a prayer shawel in that it is simply a "hey remember that youre mormon so don't do bad stuff" thing that isn't even a requirement
>felt up by a woman
????????
>what the priest tells you in private
i'm assuming you mean bishop here, and I can assure you this isn't true. Going to a bishop can be for about 3 things. one, you go to him for counseling about your troubles, namely, big sins you want to repent of. two, you are renewing your temple recommend, which is just him asking you a few questions about if you have sinned or not. three, he is asking you to start a new calling in the specific church building (sunday school teacher, first counselor, etc.).
>Black people
this is a genuine concern, and I don't have a good explanation besides that the church changes
>soda
this is about caffeine and stuff and yeah its kinda dumb, but whatever.
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>>377646936
It amuses me that MS paint hat tip images have the power to silence dissent
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>>377650424
>>377650176
That doesn't answer my question. What did he apologize for and what did he say in his apology?
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>>377650615
More like out of contrarianism
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>>377650615
>it's counter-culture to have faith
>chan culture is inherently contrarian
it checks out
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>>377645453
>that shotel like symbol in the center of the bottom row
so was lautrec in dark souls 1 actually a heretic?
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>>377650741
here comes the airplane!
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/chris-pratt-blue-collar-american-representation-apology-hollywood-film-a7697836.html
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>>377650054
Catholics believe or do most of the crazy shit Christianity is known for. Protestants think god is cool and don't do much outside of that. Don't know much about Lutherans but probably similar. 7th Day Adventists are crazy as well.
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>>377650615
i think its more like how people pretend christianity is all evil but just turn a blind eye to islam
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It's another "ģv/ discusses religion like they're all PhDs even though most of the posts show they don't even know the basics you learn in 101" episode

You people saying Catholicism is the one true Church are cracking me up. Pick up literally any history textbook not used in a catholic school.
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>>377650229
>>377650670
Alright.
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>>377650881
>Catholics believe or do most of the crazy shit Christianity is known for
such as
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Lutheran's are passive as fuck and basically are the "hey do what you want man God still loves ya" and that isn't really entertaining to watch.
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>>377650968
what did he mean by this?
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>>377645453
>ST Peter's cross
This one is funny because the "satanist" portion only comes in if you don't know history and just think it's an inverted cross.
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>>377650615
originally in my case I'd almost half agree with that, but pic related really brought it fully
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>>377650789
>taking anything that has the inverted cross labeled as a satanic symbol seriously
Inverted cross was fucking invented by a saint that was penitent enough to dying on an inverted cross because he saw himself not worthy to die the same way Jesus did.
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>>377650474
because no one really cares about jewish faith
only jews like to bring it up
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>>377640832

They're more evangelicals with the whole talking in tongues thing.

They wish they were Catholics. If they were you'd spend the game being chased by knights rambling in latin.
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>>377650969
The whole Catholic church and all of its rituals will seem weird to anyone who's not Christian. The pope and the Vatican is a pretty crazy idea which is why a lot of stuff uses it as fantasy. Pretty much everything.
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>>377649502
>I'm an ex-mormon
Did they took away your nineteen-elevens when you renounced the faith or do you get to keep them?
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>>377650881
>Protestants think god is cool and don't do much outside of that.
Straight bullshit, mate. Go into the American boonies and you'll come across the most eerie brainwashed religious communities known to man.
Any religion is capable of crazy shit.
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>>377651191
They don't do much though. I go to my black grandmother's church whenever I visit her and yeah, they get loud and rowdy but other than that nothing really happens.
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>>377650789
It's a Blue Öyster Cult logo. You probably know them as the "Don't Fear the Reaper" guys.
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>>377640832
Because the devs would get bombed if it was muslims
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>>377651256
Yes because your black grandmother's church of some denomination that you haven't specified represents every single protestant religion everywhere
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While I never played this game it did make me want to see this studio make a remake of Call of Cthulhu Dark Corners of the earth
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>>377640832
Because Protestants love Jews
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>>377650903
Most "christians" on 4chan are post-/new/ dipshits who don't actually believe in anything besides "hurf durf if i post epic deus volt meems that'll defeat the evil libcucks and mudslimes who don't even fucking use this website".
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>those GOOD christians!
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>>377647492
>you must believe in god otherwise you are le post modernist cultural marxist
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>>377651118
>>377651321
not taking it seriously im just shit posting. also lautrec is an odd character in das1 because he's kind neutrally evil? like i dont get why he places his summon sign down for you for Gaping Dragon. Makes no sense.
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Where is my Muslim religious horror movie?

There is tons of films about creepy Christian bullshit.

Why not for the Judaism or Islam?
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>>377651191
And those people keep to themselves.

Stop falling for the Hollywood propoganda. The only evil religions in the modern world are Islam and to a lesser extent Catholicism. Catholicism is more evil like a money scam is evil, though, it's more of an immoral thing to trick idiots. Islam is really the only bad religion.
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>>377651378
Obviously not and I'm not saying she does but from what I've seen, Protestants don't get up to much.
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>>377649246
Alright anon, set us straight with your clear phd in theology and history of religion.

Tell me what happened with the good christians or why the cathcucks worship a human idol.

Mormons are also shit, indisputable fact.
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>>377651532
It would be too real I guess? Just turn on the news if you want that.
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>>377651532
We're already living in a jewish run horror show and the second season is really focusing on islam now, don't need it in fantasy too.
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>>377651552
What about Scientology?
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>>377651420
also some people are just a little intrigued by dark fantasy clerics, crusaders, and paladins. I always role play as them in dark souls games.
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>>377651552
>t. Protestant
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>>377651552
So you're saying the Evangelicals that purposely stifle intellectual discussion are perfectly fine?

All large Religions are mostly just power bases for dogmatic fools.
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>>377651532
Why make a movie when you can move to the Middle East and experience the real thing?
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>>377640832
Because catholics won't blow your offices or burn your house to the ground if you make fun of them.
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>>377651453
Actually, yes, you fucking are. Western civilization was founded on Judeo-Christian values. Post modernism and Marxism actively counter those values. So, even if you don't realize it, non-Christians are contributing to the goals of Marxism and the Frankfurt School.
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>>377649030
>png
FUCK YOU
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>>377651693
That's fine, but being an obnoxious edgelord and making a mockery of the Christian faith because you're into some nerd shit isn't cool.
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>>377647510
didnt hillary have something to do with that?
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>>377651501
he seems to bro-up with solaire a lot since he hands you a sunlight medal if you free him from prison, and also a summon able npc at the gargoyle fight along with solaire
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>>377651860
true...if we were in medieval times I probably would be burnt at the stake desu. I'm a little too interested in dark magic and stuff like that.
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>>377651860
>crusades are nerdshit now
lmao at nu-christians
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>>377651860
I'll mock some backwards inbreds all I want thank you very much
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>>377651706
Islam is the only religion that actively kills people in the current day. Catholicism was literally created to control people, and today they actively influence governments. They also change constantly, which destroys their credibility. They have a fucking Jesuit pope, I'm not even Catholic and I'm embarrassed.

All those other religions might be wild and crazy, but they're not actively harming anyone else.
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>>377649690
Religion isn't some evening club0

Except thats literally what makes up most of the religeous followers.

True those guys are neckbeards and frustrated cucks looking for a fight even though they've never seen their own blood, But mostly all religeon is based on the fact that they are desperate for the "family" and "kinship" that it brings. There is and has mostly never been much true faith in it.
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>he doesn't pretend to be religious to strengthen his social network and influence

You people are idiots.
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>>377652126
All of them prey on the ill-informed and destitute so they can control them.
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>>377651965
I guess it's smart of him to bro up with solaire but I still don't understand what his goal is in the whole mix of things. Yes he kills the firelink shrine firekeeper if you do one of two things in blighttown but...why? I know I can go rewatch vaati vidya shit. Maybe ill do that.
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>>377652126
That's not true. You might easily argue Islam kills more people today, but it's not the only religion to do so.
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>>377651669
Scientology is literally a cult. Sure you can say all religions are cults but scientology is more of one than any others. I'm glad people are actually speaking out about their bullshit now.
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Lutherans are the only sane, down to earth Christians.

Catholics have their fucking city full of treasure that could probably feed the entire planet's starving population. Don't get me started on Baptists or Nazarene.
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>>377652030
>implying your pussy ass would have fought in any
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>>377651860
>Don't use my religion as fantasy because it's not mythology it's totally real
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>>377652280
>Sure you can say all religions are cults
Well, they start like those. Cults are religious by definition, anyway.
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>>377652237
Which other major religion is actively killing people? Communism?
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>>377652087
Highest incest rates occur in the Middle East and Northern Africa.

Why are you mocking the poor and the downtrodden minorities of the world?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/01/world/saudi-arabia-awakes-to-the-perils-of-inbreeding.html

http://www.nairaland.com/1448664/muslim-countries-found-highest-rates
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>>377652235
So he can get that sweet firekeeper soul. They're valuable. Solaire is just living his life as he can.
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>>377640832
because the others are irrelevant world wide
Lutherans in the US literally consists of nothing but niggers
Baptists are nothing
Protestants are the biggest cucks in religion
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What's the difference between Baptist, Protestants, Lutherans and Evangelicals?

Why there are soo many christian denomination in America?
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Reading this thread I've realized for the first time...

This place has turned into literally plebbit.
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>>377652434
nice try stormweenie, now change my tires and pump my gas
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>>377652386
Buddists can get pretty violent, especially against Muslims. Not the Western new age "Buddhists", the real ones.
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>>377649690
Why should you be forced to enter into some pact for life if you stop believing in it? That's cult shit. People like you who act like religion is this sacred thing that must be upheld to some ridiculous standard are the problem. It's the same as the extreme Muslims who think the same way. Religion is something you can take or leave as you please and it serves your purposes. You leave once you're in a better place or it doesn't sit well with you any more.
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>>377652480
because everybody wants money and Americans will worship whoever makes them feel better without having to change their lives
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>>377652459
>Lutherans in the US literally consists of nothing but niggers
>Baptists are nothing
other way around
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>>377652087
>>377652357
Have you dipshits been following the conversation at all? My problem isn't with satire, my problem is with people like in >>377649030's image and half this bloody thread.
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>>377640832
Because catholics are legitimately the most evil organization. They have strayed far from christ's vision.
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>>377651791
I just don't believe in God m8, I'm not going to pretend otherwise just because it means I have something in common with commies.
And I'm not accusing you specifically but I tend to distrust that whole cultural marxism thing because of how much /pol/tards are using it as an universal "argument" against anyone disagreeing with them as if calling people you disagree pinkos is an argument.
"bad people were against my values so you are them if you are not conforming to them in anyway" is ridiculous ad hominem.
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>>377652606
Every Lutheran Ive met in the US is black. I've never even met a baptist in real life.
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Catholic are known. if it was something else then some religion would make a big deal about.
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>>377649030
>dude. You know what would really piss those Jews off? If I became a Christian!
Pretty much the religious version of fedoras.
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>>377640832
if jesus had been hung, would the christian symbol be the gallows and noose?
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>>377652526
I warned them about /new/ back in the day, but they didn't listen.
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>>377652721
>if jesus had been hung
maybe he was

I don't think there's any account to the contrary in the Bible
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>>377640832
Because Catholics are corrupt hypocritical pedophiles
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>>377652578
Buddhists and Hindus are violent out of self defence. If Muslims didn't attack people wherever they went the others wouldn't have to be violent.
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>>377652721
>>377652765
How big do you think he was
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>>377652721
Yes. Or some other thing related to his death.
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Better question is: why isnt it muslims or buddhists(they are an angry bunch too if you bothered to learn asian history.)
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>>377652819
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>>377641037
Part of my family is full evangelical
AMA
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>>377640832
Nobody other than baptists or lutherans care or know anything about baptists or lutherans. Everyone knows everything about catholicism.
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>>377649330
>their religion is bullshit.
Uhh yeah that's what makes it a religion

>>377650229
Raised Mormon guy here, I can confirm that this anon knows what he's talking about. I have to wonder where the getting felt up thing comes from as well, that's bullshit on-par with baptistfags claiming that Mormon hymn conductors are "casting spells" at the congregation lmao
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>>377652645
I understand if you're atheist, I personally don't care, I was just explaining how you're contributing to the goals of Marxism, even if you think you're a passive bystander.

I know the whole if you're not with us you're against us thing is a tired cliche, but it's actually applicable here. Few people these days realize the foundation that built the western civilization they get their freedoms from. No atheist country has ever been good for human rights.
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>>377652603
Alright but what sets each other apart?
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>>377652721
Yes?

I mean the big selling point of the christian cult was that the son of god dies for you.

>REEEE DONT CALL IT A CULT
it literally was tho, its funny cause even if he was right and were the son of god he was still an offshoot from the jewish religion in the area.
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>>377652578
>especially against Muslims
>Muslims literally genocide Buddhists out of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran and all the Greek-Buddhist city states, destroying their countries and occupying them by breeding like rabbits
>try to do it again in countries like Sri Lanka and Myanmar
Of course they don't want to get killed again, they saw how it ended last time.
It's merely self-defence, Islam is akin to cancer.
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>>377652480
Everyone in the West was catholic but some people became the first protestants but they were not united for long and many denominations have been created with time, many in america.
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>>377652480
In America nobody cares about ethics or morality so they applied marketing to religion to make more money, thus creating different brands of stupidity.
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>>377652781
You're stretching the definition of "self-defense" pretty thin. I don't think you're interested in arguing fairly.
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>>377648265
>>377648489
I live in NYC and these fuckers are everywhere.

They're absolutely awful.
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>>377652867
>muslims
Because they'll shoot up your workplace
>buddhists
Because no one in the west gives a fuck about them, but they're subject to satire here and there in Japanese media (Shinsekai Yori, Gundam, etc)
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>>377652293
not to mention that Martin Luther was the only one to name the jew.
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>>377653096
Wikipedia can help you.
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>>377652293
>dude your charitable work isn't charitable just smelt down priceless 1000 year old historical artifacts to literally throw fish into the mouths of hungry people who the fuck needs aesthetics SUVs and aluminium shack churches are good enough for god
you're fucking retarded
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>>377646192

>The Law was fulfilled

Bit of an open word. What precicely does that mean?
The law has been completed by having more added to it?
The old law has been overwritten?

If it were both wouldn't the only sane thing for Jesus to do be to write out a list of what specifically is overwritten and what stays as opposed to dispensing the changes sporadically in chance encounters and parables throughout his life that may end up vague and vulnerable to misinterpretation/corruption?
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>>377649129

The problem is people pick and choose which laws in the old testament still apply. Jesus never said anything about homosexuals but Christians still flip their shit and reference Leviticus when it comes to gay marriage. Yet, the passage about putting menstruating women in period tents is considered outdated.

Christians are all just a bunch of fucking hypocrites it seems.
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>>377644969
There's a reason they were all chased out of Europe and fled to America.
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>>377653090
No Christian county from the beginning has been good on human rights either. Western Civilization surely wasn't. America was based on it and we were the last "civilized" country to abolish slavery.
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>>377653298
t. Muhammed
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>>377653090
The atheism of the commies was more a consequence of their ideology than something "religious", I wouldn't even compare it to groups of people who used a religion to justify their bad deeds as just not believing in god is too barebone of a belief to really means there is something inherently communistic in atheists or something inherently atheistic in communists dooming them both to commit atrocities.
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When one of your rituals is eating and drinking the flesh and blood of your lord, it isn't difficult to portray you as a cult.
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>>377653469
America has been the greatest country for human rights in history. What the actual fuck are you talking about?
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>>377653347
Yes I'm sure I will get a wiki page telling me how Evangelical, Lutherans, etc act crazy rather than an inoffensive PC page.
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>>377640832
Mostly because Catholics have nicer buildings.
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>>377649696
This. Many Christians claim that knowledge of God is inherent in all humans and so there's no excuse for not believing

As for the science stuff, religion is downstream of politics and the republicans have made their party the party of Christianity and it's in their financial interest to deny climate science which is why most Christians don't believe in basic climatology
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>>377653657
>America has been the greatest country for human rights in history.
This nigger
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>>377653662
Oh were you looking for outlandish news stories? You can just google "crazy evangelical" then, if you weren't genuinely interested in the theological differences between the various denominations.
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>>377652721
Do you think hanging would fall out of common use in the West and people would be crucified instead, or do the nature and practically of those execution styles the main force behind their continued use?
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Anyone have a link for Outlast 2 playthrough where they explore 100% of the game ? Tried watching a few but the are missing shit and not reading notes and stuff.
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>>377653419
Any Christian that follows any laws in the old testament is definitionally not a Christian.
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>>377653361
They fucking ARE good enough for god. Nowhere in the bible does it say you should do this fucking oppulant bullshit to "glorify god". You don't even need to go to church. Catholocism is bullshit because it's obviously made so that the leaders of the faith horde all the wealth while the people right outside their ivory walls are starving. Holding onto all that gold is doing literally nothing for god. It's pure hypocrisy.
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>>377653657
But slavery was abolished so late?
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>>377653298
Every single time Muslims go to a country they breed like rabbits so they can outnumber the local population, slaughter it and put Sharia law in effect.
That's literally what happened with North Africa over the course of 3 centuries and what happened to all the Buddhists in the middle east from 800 AD to today.

It's not nice but it's how demographics work, the moment Sri Lanka or whatever lets its guard down Muslims will outnumber them and kill them in their sleep as soon as they can.
Google what happened to Beirut.
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>>377653613
I'm not talking about commies specifically. Look through history at any atheist civilization or country.
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>>377642675
>walmart protestant.
This is the best way to put it, honestly. Catholicism has a ton of tradition behind it, put together across millennia
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>>377649394
>Do you deny science
Are you retarded? For hundreds of years it was the Catholic Church driving science in the West forward and even following the rennaisance a great many of the leading thinkers in all fields were clergymen. It has always reinterpreted doctrine when faced with scientific proof that contradicts it.
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>>377653657
>What the actual fuck are you talking about?
Uh I'm talking about the whole first hundreds of years of its existence where people literally owned people.
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>>377649060
They're duplicitous in general. They're nice and they want to be nice, but if you cross the Church they can become downright scary. I know someone who actually has to hide from the Church because his grandfather is an Apostle of the church and his parents decided to break away from the faith. Individual Mormons are usually nice enough folk but the organization itself is rather sinister and conniving.
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>>377653657
>America has been the greatest country for human rights in history.
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>>377649937

>Look up Chris Pratt quote
>It's literally him just saying he wished there was more Blue Collar films

On one hand, some of the reactions against him were way overblown. On the other hand, this isn't a blacklist quote. The dude literally built a cross and put it on his ranch for easter last year and no one said shit.
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>>377646192
if Christ pretty much retcon the whole OT. Then the ten commandments and various laws protestants push don't mean shit.
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>>377653917
>Who is Galileo
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>>377653851
economic dependence
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>>377640832
the jews hate you
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>>377653419

see then you get retards like these >>377653761
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>>377654013
Let's be fair, Galileo was being a rude asshole at the time of his house arrest.
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>>377653657
>people literally couldn't marry each other if their grand-grandfather was black
>literal eugenics laws in some states
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>>377653868
Was there ever officialy (or at least mostly) atheist civilizations or countries besides the communist ones?
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>>377649246
>you can't play video games and know anything about the outside world
you should read a book, anon
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>>377654026
Oh so it's fine then.
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>>377654013
t. Retard

Galileo was teaching his theory as scientific fact. The church came along and told him that if he could provie it he could carry on but otherwise he would have to instead teach it as a thery. Galileo sperged out and told the church to go and fuck itself and continued preaching his theory as fact without any way to prove it.
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>>377654109
>literal eugenics laws in some states
You do realize that any country with laws regarding incest has eugenics laws, yes?
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>>377653696
I think most people will agree that the climate changes, and that humans have some impact on it, but it's not really clear what effect humans have on it. Doesn't help climate prediction models are almost universally shit and wrong too.
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>>377654175
Sure but that's not what we're talking about now is it?
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>>377653361
Because Jesus was known for his luxury, right?
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>>377649060
They can believe what they want, but I take issue with them calling themselves Christian. They are Christian in the sense that Islam is Christian, or that Christianity is Jewish, in that it built off a previous religion.
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What a shame, the first game and the DLC were horror kino.
I hope they dont give up on the franchise because of 2.
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>>377654150
And it tours out he was right :)
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>>377649060
Mormons are a modern cult. It is not a christian denomination. They are taught to lie to non mormons. Just like Chinese people it is ok to fuck over people that are not mormons. They can make a deal with you and then ignore it because their church discourages them from doing any business with non mormons unless it benefits them. Not to mention the institutionalized rape and racism that they constantly deny. They even try to deny that Joseph Smith died in prison.
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>>377654114
Would you count modern Japan?
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>>377653867
Not even every Muslim country lives by sharia. Turkey doesn't.
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>>377654229
All the laws you refer to are outdated and no longer apply to any state.
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>>377654026
You are not the most free country on earth just because you needed slavery m8
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>>377652434
>japan is dark
nice.
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>>377649394
Science is the new religion. Idiots like you follow it blindly as fact despite not understanding why
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>>377654316
and? That doesn't matter in the slightest. Anyone doing what Galileo did today would be thrown out of all academic institutes for the same reason.
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>>377653917
You're in full denial if you think the church is still anywhere in the forefront of modern scientific discovery.
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>>377653851
We've only been a country sinc3 1776, anon. We abolished the Atlantic Slave trade before we wrote the declaration independence. There are numerous bills passed outlawing the slave trade bit by bit before the civil war was even a thought. Ohio outlawed slavery in 1802. Jefferson started speaking out against slavery in 1805. Relative to our age, the US abolished slavery before most others.

Regardless, my statement was more about the current year.
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>>377653791
god didn't give you eyes so you could look at ugly shit

the catholic church is already one of the largest charity organizations in the world
> while the people right outside their ivory walls are starving
have you actually been to rome
I have and I didn't remember any sort of famine going on
also
>sola scriptura
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>>377654376
Are or were?
Laws change a lot over time.
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>>377654335
they dont on legal level by do on social
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>>377653978
>if Christ pretty much retcon the whole OT
He absolutely doesn't

>“Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.”
>(Matthew 5:17)

>“It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.”
>(Luke 16:17)
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>>377654328
Yes.
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>>377653886
Anon, Catholicism hasn't even existed for a millennium. It's time to stop posting.
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>>377654453
It doesn't mean anything if people still owned slaves. You can't say "my country is great for human rights. See? Slavery is totally illegal" when people in your country still own slaves and nothing is done about it.
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>>377640832
>Why is it always Catholics? Why is it never Baptists, or Lutherans?

Catholics have been a political power in large chunks of the world for centuries and have a history of incredibly hypocrisy that makes them ideal for a villain. Lutherans are too sensible to be villains, and Baptists too irrelevant.
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>>377653760
Sorry, the is a poorly veiled /pol/ thread. You will need to go somewhere else if you want to talk about video games.
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>>377653930
>people owned slaves in 1876

Stop posting.
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>>377653917
History has nothing to do with today. When I have to explain to my Christian friends that electrons actually exist and aren't a lie or that dinosaur bones aren't a hoax you're not very convincing.
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>>377654536
Buttsex and trannies aren't against the law in Turkey, sure there's violence against those by more conservative people but that's just how it goes.
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>>377653657
>no single payer healthcare system
>slavery and the jim crow laws
>the fuckin trail of tears
>The natives in general really
>American imperialism
>The pre bigdeal/50s workers rights
>mkultra and the tustigee syphilis experiment
>"greatest country for human rights
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>>377654572

Somebody should tell the 1.3 billion Catholics in the world that they don't exist.
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>>377645453
>>377641769
I literally can't tell if they are being serious.
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>>377654448
You're being a sophist, they didn't say to him he had to "prove it", they said to him that if he didn't abjure he would end up like Giordano Bruno.
You know what happened to Giordano Bruno right?
He got burnt in Rome for doing weird scientific research.
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>>377654352
Alright well let's talk about gerrymandering which is designed to keep minorities from voting then. Or arbitrary tests as a requirement for voting designed to weed out those who did not have as good an education as others (aka minorities) or who's scores were up to the discretion of the racist test givers?
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>>377654750
they're not real scotsmen though
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>>377654706
>that's just how it goes.
And maybe Buddhists don't want to end up like that.
Now fuck off Mohammed and go fuck a goat or something.
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>>377640832
The real question is why is it never Muslims with the Koran or Jews with the Talmud? why is it always the bible?
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>>377645453
>postmodernism
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>>377654914
>Alright well let's talk about gerrymandering which is designed to keep minorities from voting then.
it's done by the parties to win as many votes as possible

not LE DISCRIMINATION DDDX
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>>377654443
Here we go. Explain to me how I "don't understand why" when you can do a science experiment in your own home and the entire field is based off of peer review meaning that it has to be corroborated by multiple people doing experiments before it's taken as fact.
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>>377654937
Probably because horror games rely on corrupting something familiar to us, Christianity is familiar to the people that play this game.
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>>377640832

I believe it's pretty much as >>377641514 said. It's just easier.

on a side note: I'd love a stealth game involving anabatists fleeing from a village to avoid death
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>>377654463
>god didn't give you eyes so you could look at ugly shit
This is the weakest reasoning I've ever seen
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>>377654451
>still
I never implied that it still was because society has changed. It does however embrace science and continues to accept it.

>>377654861
Giordana Bruno also had his own weird theology going on and it's likely he was burned for that rather than his astronomical work.
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>>377654861
>He got burnt in Rome for doing weird scientific research.
Akshully
>Beginning in 1593, Bruno was tried for heresy by the Roman Inquisition on charges including denial of several core Catholic doctrines, including eternal damnation, the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, the virginity of Mary, and transubstantiation. Bruno's pantheism was also a matter of grave concern, as was his teaching of the transmigration of the soul (reincarnation).

>>377654929
That's how it goes in the US too, though. In a big city you can be a fag all you want, but out there in the boonies you might get jumped by people who don't like that.
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>>377640832
they're all the same thing, man
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>>377654914
gerrymandering isn't designed to keep minorities from voting, hell, plenty of gerrymandering is done to make minority votes count more

>Or arbitrary tests as a requirement for voting designed to weed out those who did not have as good an education as others
poll tests haven't been legal since the civil rights act
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>>377640832

anti-rat = "antisemitic"
anti-goat fucker = "islamaphobic"
anti-Christian = ...
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>>377654937
Because no real jews give a fuck about that bullshit fanfiction?
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>>377654582
So by your logic, every country is horrible for human rights because some of the citizens are rapists and murderers?
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>>377654572
>Catholicism has a ton of tradition behind it, put together across millennia
I wasn't implying that catholicism itself is millennia old, but that the traditions they hold trace back to such times
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Communists hate religion especially Catholicism/Cristianity.

They love Islam tho, did you know people in eastern Europe, those who were under the boot of Stalin, say that Islam is like communism but with a god?
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>>377655184
>poll tests haven't been legal since the civil rights act
They were in place up to the 1960s.
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>>377654746
What country would you say is better?
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>>377655041
because you never do. You take what others say and regurgitate it without bothering to read how or why. Not to mention that people like you tend to take in everything as indisputable fact when by nature these can be obsolete later on. You can pretend that you can replicate all that at home but the truth is you cannot. Current methods are flawed with money being allocated to whatever suits the patrons needs and truth constantly being hidden and hindered.
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>>377654335
Starting to look like it's going that way though.
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>>377654937
The real reason is nobody in the west even cared about Muslims before a decade ago.
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>>377654657
Don't forget Catholics have dem aesthetics. Which order of Catholics is the best? I'm half inclined towards the Jesuits.
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>>377655387
What the fuck did you do in history class, jack off?
When do you think the act was passed?
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>>377655156
>person writes about different stuff despite openly saying in said "trial" he still believes in the Christian Dogma
>burn him
you truly enlightened me with your Christian love, where can I sign up to repent my sins and put my life in the hands of the Lord?
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>>377654750
What the fuck does that have to do with what I said?
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>>377655448
Suppose you were even right which you aren't. Why is that less reputable than a religion based on an ancient book, most of which is very clearly fantasy.
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>>377651186
they took them away, sadly

I like the 1911 but not a big fan of .45 gayCP anyway
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>>377655229

Heretic/Blasphemer/Non-Believer/Apostate

take your picc
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>>377654937
Yeah, why have no video games ever let us fight Muslim terrorists?
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>>377655476
You can't say something that changed as recently as 1960 is evidence that a country is a great place for human rights. You're basically arguing that if it's not happening RIGHT NOW then it means it's totally fine and everything has been resolved.
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>>377654463
>god didn't give you eyes so you could look at ugly shit
I'm pretty sure eye are mostly for practical applications and not an excuse the worship the golden idols you Cahtolics love so much.
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>>377655264
Yes. Especially if "some of the citizens" are a very large and significant part of the population.
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>>377649060
They're insidious.
I spent a while studying the history of the Oregon Trail and Mormons apparently own a good portion of it and use it to whitewash their history by making it seem as though Mormons were always in the right in every situation.
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>>377649916
Cause the majority of people who have had exposure to the islamic community don't make games, while many game devs have had exposure to christian imagery and iconography.
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Atheism is the more comfortable way of life, it's very convenient not to believe in God
>there's no such thing as God or absolute moral values
>it's totally not necessary because muh country laws!
>ignores how the justice of men is hardly infallible, how people get away with murder or worse
>if there's ever a chaos in society and laws can't be enforced, I can do shit just fine because no morals
>it's very convenient to not believe there's a superior Being watching over me, noticing every bad deed I may commit, even when it's obvious to me I can get away with whatever I'm doing
>no fear of any judgement day where God will look at every single bad thing I did and judge me for it, so all I need is to get away from the local laws somehow

Some people say it's convenient to believe in God and in the afterlife because or else life has no meaning, but you ignore that without God, you can have no moral brakes for doing evil stuff, as long as nobody is watching you. Would you steal if you were 1000% sure you would get away with it? With God you're always being watched and you will be judged for your moral wrongs no matter how many people witnessed them, without God it's easy to do all kinds of wicked shit as long as you don't get caught.

It's no wonder militant atheistic regimes in the 20th century murdered millions of people, without moral absolutes it's easy to rationalize the murder of 100+million human beings, human life is nothing special anyway, right?
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>>377655470
>implying you can get any cooler than the Order of Saint John
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>>377655307
They tried to convince muslims states to join them and that would have worked if the USA didn't fund terrorist groups to destoy them from inside.
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>>377654150
What about when the church outlawed experiments researching air pressure because the idea of a vacuum was blasphemous?
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>>377655602

Those are general terms which apply to all religions.
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>>377655871
Eh every group tries to paint themselves in the right, be it religions or nations.
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>>377640832
As a baptist I agree
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>>377655451
Blame Erdogan. Turkey isn't the only example, anyway. Sure sharia is stupid and the fact that some countries do live by it already paints Islam negatively.

>>377655480
Just saying, he wasn't banned for scientific research. It's a really annoying myth that Christians persecuted scientists specifically.

>>377655601
What about the High-Power, then?
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>>377655912
So you need some omniscient being watching over you in order to not fuck people over? What about respect for your fellow man, dipshit?
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>>377655947
Oh yes, the evil United States invented the concept of jihad where non-muslims have to be subjugated according to islamic doctrine, right?
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>>377656002
Dunno, I've never heard of that. You got a source or specific names? Throwing key words into Google isn't getting me anywhere.
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>>377655912
There's nothing about religion explicitly being more morally upright than atheism. Morals exist because humans are social creatures and we are naturally predisposed to creating society and societies need rules. If you erased all traces of religion from the world today, people would not go crazy murdering and raping eachother because that's obviously not something that should be allowed and it's not morals which stop people from doing them.
Plus it's not like the Bible is an incredible standard for morals when there's nothing against owning human beings as slaves in it and there's a ton of shit in there that we would say is morally wrong today.
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>>377656136
Why shouldn't I fuck people over? As long as I get away with it, there's no problem for me. Moral is relative after all and not set in stone.

Where did the respect your fellow man come from? We're all specks in this world, human beings aren't any special at all, we're just animals that became a little more sophisticated over time.
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>>377655912
Catholics can go into a box and get washed of all their bad deeds or in the past could give a little tip to the church and god forgives them.
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>>377656362
This. Morality isn't absolute, but it's a useful survival tool.

One can argue so is religion, or at least was.
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>>377655764
why are you on a video game board you retarded plebfuck
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>>377650881
>Catholics believe or do most of the crazy shit Christianity is known for. Protestants think god is cool and don't do much outside of that

That is the opinion of someone living in a country with a protestant majority.
I live in a country where the majority of the population is Catholic, or at least most self identify as such. Religious practice is mostly just the big rituals and a few holidays. No one but true tryhards step on a church outside of like 10 times in their life. People sort of believe in God but they care little for what anyone does.
When I hear about cathnolics from my friends in places like america they talk about them like they're the crazy old people obsessed with religion that will bust your balls about jesus and stuff. I can only imagine that has to be some sort of regional problem. A crazy christian here will almost certainly be evangelical.
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>>377655710
>as recently as 1960
That was 50 years ago, how long do you think this nation's history is?
>You're basically arguing that if it's not happening RIGHT NOW then it means it's totally fine and everything has been resolved.
I'm arguing that LAWS that have been stricken from the books no longer apply, and that is true.
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>>377655912
Are you actually talking to someone or are you just throwing a fit because some people are saying mean things about your religion?
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>>377656419
This is why some people need religion right here. They're too weak and selfish to be decent by themselves.
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>>377656362
Communism that murdered 100+million people, as an atheistic regime seems to prove otherwise.

You ignore the "traces of religion" are in people's minds and hearts. If you want to experiment, try raising a kid without notions from religion, such as moral absolutes, 10 commandments and such, let's see what kind of person he will become.
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>>377655229
politically correct/Jewish
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>>377640832
Catholicism is cooler aesthetically speaking.
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>>377656201
???
Are you high? are you denying the existence of terrorists groups because all muslims must be somehow united because muh jihad?
Even the government of Afghanistan is fighting with them m8.
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>>377656201
Jihad is not necessarily a war against non-believers.
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>>377656776
>One movement led by madmen killed a lot of people it's atheism's fault not the fault of the leaders
No
>try raising a kid without notions from religion, such as moral absolutes, 10 commandments and such, let's see what kind of person he will become.
You would have to remove that kid from all tinges of society to have it work. You'd have to remove them from other people as well since the people around them aren't going to let them steal their shit.
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>>377656776
Not all atheists are communists.
I guess that all individual christians burned witches or killed muslims in crusades by your logic?
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>>377656776
>let's see what kind of person he will become.
the übermensch?
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>>377656535
>Survival tool.
So it can be molded as much as I like? That's great, morals to me means if I can get away with murder and theft, i'll do so. If I happen to stumble into a rich man in the middle of nowhere, just me and him, I'll stab his neck and take everything from him.

Morality is just stories old people tell themselves to feel good about themselves.
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>>377654326
never thought I'd see so much wrong in a single post
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>>377645453
>Video games

I guess no one in /v/ is going hell then
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>>377657038
>So it can be molded as much as I like?
Yes if you're contributing to the survival of the group you live in. If not then you will be killed or excommunicated. You cannot get away with murder or theft because that is not conducive to survival. Has nothing to do with god.
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>>377641037
I worked at an evangelical event before and when they sing and close their eyes and stick their hands out or in the air, it's a little weird, like it's making a spectacle of the whole thing.
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>>377657038
>If I happen to stumble into a rich man in the middle of nowhere, just me and him, I'll stab his neck and take everything from him.
what's your point? Banditry has existed in all ages.
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>>377656994
only if he transcends others
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>>377656990
Communism is an organized atheistic regime. Care to elaborate which societies organized atheism created? Did you know the christians created shit like universities? What did your wonderful atheism create? I mean besides the piles of corpses comrade stalin and mao left behind in the name of progress.
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>>377656419

Even animals can act with sympathy
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>>377642983
nice fan fiction, anon.

let me guess, you dropped out of high school?
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>>377656631
>how long do you think this nation's history is?
By that logic then America is a terrible place for human rights because for all of it's hundreds of years existence, minus 50 years terrible injustices against humans have been committed.
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>>377657210
I never said it didn't. I'm saying without moral absolutes it's very easy to rationalize murder and theft and so on, as long as I don't get caught, which isn't that hard. Ask any police man how many murder cases go unsolved, even in 1st world countries like the USA. Ever heard of the Black Dahlia case? He got away with brutal murders.
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>>377657038
Survival tool for the humanity at large, not you. Ultimately, your individual life matters even less than our species.
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>>377656994
humans can't make their own values
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>>377656776
ah yes, (((atheists)))

they sure love massacring Christians by the millions!
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>>377657353
It is completely dependent on if you are focusing on what America is or what it was.
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>>377656419
you are a real sociopath, you know that?
maybe you should get some help
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>>377657219
Animals act with instinct.
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>>377657440
That just makes you crazy, not atheist.
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>>377657457
given that values differ, someone has to make those values
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>>377657217
Yeah sure, they killed people because they don't believed in God and not because of the "THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION MUST BELONGS TO US AT ANY COST AND WE MUST FIGHT THE CAPITALIST ENEMIES TO ACHIEVE OUR UTOPIA" aspect of their ideology and them being all dictatures.
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>>377649060
they are very nice; some of the nicest people. but they're just WRONG
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>>377657470
Try saying communists aren't true atheists in a communist country like China. Try preaching ANY religion openly in Cuba and I want to know how long you'll be allowed to be outside of a prison. Never heard of the "religoon is the opium of the masses" quote eh?
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>>377640832
>>377641037


Because that is who it actually is and you don't want to offend them too much out of buying the game.

Most Catholics can shirk the stuff off pretty easily. Sure there are a few hardliners, but they usually only care about marriage/divorce or they care about who you're currently dating.

Evangelicals will literally want to murder you if you don't follow Christianity, but they especially have disdain for the Catholics.

I'm Roman Catholic though, so I probably have some bias.
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>>377657217
You using one example is not helping your case at all. We have no idea when the concept of god was created or if all tribes of humans had a god throughout all time. Gods throughout the ages haven't been the same as your Christian god. Gods in the past could be angry people who killed and raped all they wanted because they were powerful, or passive beings that make the grass grow and the sun rise.
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Why are all Catholic majority countries full of lazy pieces of shit who drink and eat all day, while Protestant countries are populated hardworking and diligent people?
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>>377656419
Have you seen the behaviors of animals that live in groups? They aren't just randomly raping and killing each other all the time. Even they manage to have a form of law and order (though not as sophisticated as humans) because it benefits them as a species. Yes, there are regular violent bids for power, but even we humans are constantly guilty of this, even within the history of our religions.
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>>377657502
Why am I a sociopath? Morality is a social construct, I can adapt it anyway I can. You just believe in sky daddies and fairy tales to feel better about yourself. I am above this notion of morals.
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>>377656089
>What about the High-Power, then?
I like it just fine, but I prefer the modern son of the Hi-Power

The CZ-75
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>>377645453
>do not levitate
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>>377657767
???
Europeans are not really lazier than americans.
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>>377657480
The point is the original guy was saying that countries based on Christian morals are great for human rights when America was not great for human rights for a long time. It's only changed because we know that shit is not okay now.
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>>377656009

Not my fault Christians aren't good at coming up with an anti-discriminatory label for christians
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>>377656419
Pointing to a divine figure as a source of moral principles is even worse than the tards who preach moral relativism.
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>>377657457
Where did values come from then? God? Well sorry but your god has only existed for a few thousand years.
This is the problem with a lot of you people. You have such a low opinion of humanity because you can't imagine why anyone else would be decent without the checks you rely on.
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>>377657601
Why is it crazy? I'm being logical here, there's no such thing as moral values worth keeping, to me moral means me first even if it means stepping over someone else. I'm applying survival of the fittest to my lifestyle.
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>>377645453
>tfw joined Acacia fraternity
>tfw we were part of freemasons
>tfw they can even sit in on our ceremonies
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>>377654379
Island nations bro.
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>>377657825
Literally the talk of a sociopath.
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>>377657842
Nice.
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>>377656256
If it helps, I learned of it from a documentary series called "Connections". I'm searching for the exact scene now.
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>>377653657
Because, and ONLY because, it is a secular nation that keeps religious nonsense out of law. No theocracy has ever been a decent place for anyone but the elite or members of the official religion

You fags need to remember that America is a godless nation insofar as such a thing is possible. Long may it be so.
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>>377657217
Abolishment of religion by the state has always been used as a tool to control the populace. It's much more difficult to organize your resistance to the state if you don't have an excuse to get together with your community and "pray" every Sunday. This all has nothing to do with atheism however. To be an atheist does not require that you band together with other atheists and stamp out religion.
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>>377640832
Protestants are good goyim and have always been, unlike Catholics.
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>>377656419
Societies with morals thrive, societies without morals don't. If you're too stupid to know why, audit a philosophy ethics course. They're meant for humanities students so it should be easy for anyone with a pulse to understand.
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>>377658056
You are really disregarding the most important part here. God didn't create morals, humans did because we need them to function in a group. If you want to go against the group fine. You'll be dealt with. It's anarchy you're talking about, not atheism.
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>>377646671
>post yfw
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>>377658056
>there's no such thing as moral values worth keeping
he smugly types while finishing off a two-liter of Mountain Dew
>to me moral means me first even if it means stepping over someone else.
He stretches his 5'6, 260 pound frame, getting ready to educate the unwashed masses
>I'm applying survival of the fittest to my lifestyle.
he says as he scratches his enormous gut, annoyed by the Doritos dust sticking to his fingers.
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>>377657770
>law and order
They're living together and following instincts of survival.

There's no "altruism" in ants at all, there are queen ants that kill older queen to take their place. Some ants, wasps and shit CANNOT survive without the larvae digesting the food, they're like cells in a body, they depend on each other much more than people do, and they also leave the nest when they're going to die, and they'll die in the mouth of predators to prevent the attacker from getting to their queen/larvae. It's a little different situation where a single individual has very little value and is really expendable.
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>>377657825
Empathy is not a learned behavior, christfag.
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>>377645453
>Twilight Films
But the books are fine!
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>>377658197
Oh and every moral failing of America (slavery, genocide of natives, etc.) has its roots in religiosity.
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>>377658084
My grandfather was a mason. He had a ring and everything. Funnily enough he was black and wasn't even rich.
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>>377658098
Why is looking after myself over all others so bad? You're still not refuting my point and just calling me names.

>>377658318
Acshually I am 183cm and 84kg, don't project anon.
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>>377640832

its pretty simple

Catholicism = demons

Catholicism simply has the strongest satanic imagery
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>>377658370
Not the same guy. But I think it is in some capacity. We just learned that empathy allows the group to survive as a whole, which is better for ourselves in the long run.

Basically we empathize with others, because it helps us overall. You don't try to be too shitty to your parents when they give you some stuff, but just shitty enough to get what you want. You don't badger your citizens too much as a politician, you just get what you need to retain your votes and funding for the following year. Yeah they might do something that looks like, or seems to be empathy. However, it's just looking out for something that will help you later on.
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>>377658197
>America is a godless nation insofar as such a thing is possible
Japan is much more godless and they get on just fine and far better than America. Sure you got the depression and suicide thing but that's a minor concern.
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>>377658370
So you think human beings are inherently good? Lmao you should check what people locked in prisons did. You are awfully naive.
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>>377658518
I knew a guy whose grandad was a mason in oregon. He said that his granddad brought in a bunch of black members at the time and was one of the only ones to do so.
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>>377658616
This is just bad trolling at this point. I can't even tell if you're being sarcastic.
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>>377658423
No atheism did that. Same as the holocaust, reign of terror, holy wars. Atheists do not value life because there is no morality without divine plans. The have used twisted "moral reasoning" to enact atrocities that no man of God would ever commit.
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>>377658689
You're just giving up really. What's the origin of empathy? Are human being naturally good? Do you subscribe to the notion of the noble savage?
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>>377658523
>Acshually I am 183cm and 84kg, don't project anon.
sure you are kiddo. If you tried to pull some "survival of the fittest" shit on me I'd beat your face into a pulp. there's a reason you're edgy online, it's because you're too scared to do it in person.
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>>377658629
Here in Texas I find it interesting that any old pioneer cemetery you find have the mason marks on some of the graves. Don't know if it's like that everywhere but it's just interesting to me.
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>>377658828
I was making a point that you clearly missed mr 300lbs tough guy.
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>>377655912
Who's is the better person, someone who is good because they want to be and because they think it is the right thing to do, or someone who is only good because they fear punishment and declares that they would be wicked with out it.
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>>377658560
But if someone's brain lacks the ability to simulate the pain and suffer of their peers, there's really nothing that can be done to make them act moral, atleast without social coercion/threats.
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>>377658814
>What's the origin of empathy?
Brain chemistry
>Are human being naturally good?
"Good" is not a word I can say but they naturally help their own.
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>>377658337
The biological and genetic situation is much more different for ants than it is for us, but they aren't the only kinds of animals that live in groups so I don't know why you decided to only use them for comparison.
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>>377658616
Human beings who cannot empathize do not fair well in social environments. Most psychopaths wind up dead or imprisoned.
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>>377640832
It would be too easy otherwise. If it were some other group doing the whole demon worship thing, you could just call in the catholic church and they'd handle that shit. If the catholic church itself is doing the demon worship, you have a problem.
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>>377658930
doesn't matter, you're the kind of person who says nigger on 4chan but gets scared of black people irl
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>>377658935
What told you "it's the right thing to do"? What's the source of that claim?

Even atheists might be affected by religious morality " Love your neighbor as yourself" without knowing. Some atheists realize this is a good thing.
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>>377659023
>"Good" is not a word I can say but they naturally help their own.
They clearly don't since many humans are up to no good and would easily shank you for 20 bucks.

You're basically saying human beings are inherently good though.
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>>377658337
>there are queen ants that kill older queen to take their place
And there are king humans you killed other king humans to take their place. Even though a king in times of old is someone appointed by god to rule. I guess the murderer was told by god to kill the old king huh?
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>>377658616
All that proves is that people were convicted of bad things. It doesn't prove wether they were good people turned bad or bad people never turned good.
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>>377659261
What happens to most of those people when society is aware of their actions?
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>>377659261
>They clearly don't since many humans are up to no good and would easily shank you for 20 bucks.
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>>377659075
wrong not all psychopaths kill, some are just cold fuckers who can easily become adapted into society

Psychopaths know what emotions are about, they just don't experience them as others do. In other words they can fake emotions to get ahead in life and so on. Seeing a pic that causes emotional responses in people in a psychopath makes their language center in the brain to be active.
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>>377659159
Being told something is good is different than only doing something because of reward or punishment, which is what the original post claims is the only reason to do good. If an athiest got their idea of morality from religion, and yet still does it without the idea of reward or punishment, it would still disprove that anon.
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