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Kojima's ruse cruise

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>Kojima has been working on one of the world's biggest ruses of all time
>He's about to become the number 1 Legend in the whole entertainment industry

Why are you still skeptical? Why not admit Kojima's genius already? You are merely a buffoon if you you're not a believer.
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>>377616007
Don't you guys ever get tired of being wrong?
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>>377616007
I can only agree

OP.
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>Obligatory evidence for all the buffoons out there
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>>377616128
Reminder that you promised to kill yourself if you were wrong.
You will be live streaming your suicide if this does not happen.
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>>377616215
I'm not Caramel (though I wish I was, what a clever man he is!).
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>Reminder MGSV:TPP was just a coma nightmare
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Death Stranding is Silent Hills.
TPP has one more ending where we revisit Camp Omega.
The real MGS5 has not yet been released.
Kojima was never fired.

You all go rused.
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>>377616215
Where's the promise?
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>>377616362
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>>377616392
DS is not Silent Hills you cuck
stop trying to be a fake fib
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>>377616128
>the only emblem that's left in the game code but isn't useable is Kojima's head

WRONG
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>>377616527
see
>>377616128
and get fucked faggot.

>>377616563
Well yeah, that's what happens when you use the Infinite Heaven mod retard.
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You modded the game, nice try though.
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all of the coincidences are pretty funny and i'd like to believe.

But what purpose would any of this even serve towards selling the game?

Kojima isn't a performance artist, his ruse cruises are just silly things that go a bit too far but this would be like needing to tidy up your house so you decide to nuke it levels of taking a ruse too far.

Why would a company publicly announce they'd fired a popular member of staff to mass fan backlash in order to... Sell more games? Konami is pachinko nip shit these days Kojima was fired for a reason and its because he no longer fits with what Konami are aiming for.

Kojima has been sick of MGS for a while, i could see him doing a horror game as a ruse but it won't be related to silent hill.
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HEY FUCKNUTS

REMEMBER THE HYPE FOR MGS5 BEFORE IT CAME OUT? WHEN EVERYONE WAS FREAKING OUT ABOUT LE EPIK RUSES?

AND THEN THERE WERE 0 RUSES.

THERE ARE NO RUSES.

THE RUSEMASTER MEME IS GARBAGE.
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>>377616686
This means sweet fuck all. He was angry that his role got snatched.
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>>377616007
He's fucked. Give me ONE (1) good example of a time when two vastly successful partners split and one of them went on to become even more successful.If anything Hideo will be the more successful one since he still has all of Konami's resources and talent. If Kojima isn't able to put out a 10/10 title by himself on his first attempt, I'd bet all my money he fades into obscurity.
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>>377616740
Everyone fell for the giant ruse that MGS5 would be a good game.
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>>377616618
DS is not Silent Hills.


SH is not his idea. SH would not mean
success for him.


There are connections to MGS in SH. Why I wonder?


Snow Camo. Joy. Chico. The abandoned child. 204863. etc.
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>>377616686
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>people seriously believe David Hayter is relevant
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>>377616889
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>>377617091
Is he still doing nothing but crying these days?
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>>377617203
Yes.
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So are the MGS conspiracy nuts serious or is it just one big joke?
Because if it's the former, it's pretty sad, but if it's the latter, it's not funny.
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>>377616904
>SH is not his idea. SH would not mean
>success for him.
Tricking millions of low IQ subhumans that he was "fired" is the succes. He's always wanted to make a Silent Hill game. Now fuck off loser.
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>>377616847
After Dead Island, Techland left Deep Silver to make Dying Light, an even more successful game than Dead Island.
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>>377617282
Every single MGS crazy theory starts as one person trolling, then every other retard asspie thinks that person actually believes in it, so they buy in and continue spreading the misinformation, by now it's just trolls and brainlets who actually believe in it.
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>Why are you still skeptical?

Because it's a retarded forced meme pretending to not understand basic things about how public companies and marketing works.
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>>377617281
what a cute snek
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>>377617420
*moves the goalpost*

Uhhh, no I hate that game and your argument is invalid because I said so.
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>>377617301
He's probably been working almost 10 years on this masterpiece now but aight. It's not just about him tricking the people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5lJ4x68vdw
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>>377617282
It's one tranny with serious mental health problems.
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>>377617559
see
>>377616392
this is all very impressive. Now get lost, kiddo.
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Reminder that Yongyea (god forgives me for mentioning him) thought that Venom being a different person was a dumb speculation.

He also stated recently that DS being linked to SH is impossible. No one escapes the ruse
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Are there people that seriously want Death Stranding to just be Silent Hills or MGSV?
Like, holy shit, just let Kojima do something new.
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>tfw you will witness kojimbo's fall in your life time
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>>377617281
Fucking hell he really should just off himself at this point tbqh, also I finally caught my corn snake drinking like this for the first time it's qt as FUCK
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>>377616927
Didn't this guy get pissed off about the game using his likeness?
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>>377617559
Stop replying to tripfags. You're just enabling their retardation.
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>>377616128
i didnt realize alex jones came on /v/
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>>377617820
It was all part of the ruse :^0
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>>377616392
>>377617624

...holy shit how big of a fucking degenerate to falseflag your own posts about videogame

aaahahahahah
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>>377617758

Maybe Death Starnding will be actually good now that he doesn't have to force to do more MGS stuff you can tell he wasn't particularly interested in V.
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>>377617809
Big Chief Keif should get more video game roles, or Konami could just remake every single MGS and have him voice snake instead, that way Hayter's legacy would be completely wiped off the map.
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>>377617758
>tfw you will witness kojimbo's ascension to godhood in your life time
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>>377617758
You don't have a PS4 do you?
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>>377617869
This is because YongYea is a lackey for Kojima. They let him play a few hours of the game in advance and he came back and said he's 100% certain we're playing as the real Big Boss when it's obvious to a child we weren't, especially if you already have that theory in mind as you play the first few hours.

Kojima got bootyblasted over PythonSelkan spoiling this ruse so he had YongYea made that video about how it's impossible for Death Stranding to be Silent Hills.

>>377617820
You mean "didn't this guy PRETEND he was pissed off". He also said something like "my lawyers will be in touch". Every doctor in the world thinks his procedure is retarded and impossible. He has to speak at TedX, the retards version of the very prestigious Ted. TedX allows obese women to lecture you on how it's healthy to be obese and how you should fuck her regardless. A man carrying out a procedure like this would rock the world, yet no one really gives a fuck about it, and not only that he has to speak at TedX, not Ted?

His surgery is also happening THIS year.
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>>377616007
>>377616128
>>377616392
>>377616618
>>377616927
>>377617029
>>377617301
>>377618034
you were wrong
where's my fucking money
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Goodbye sausage
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>>377617758
I still don't understand why people put this hack on a pedestal. His post-modern shit in MGS2 was neat, but everything else about the series' narrative is a convoluted mess.
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>>377618034
>This is because YongYea is a lackey for Kojima. They let him play a few hours of the game in advance and he came back and said he's 100% certain we're playing as the real Big Boss when it's obvious to a child we weren't, especially if you already have that theory in mind as you play the first few hours.
>Kojima got bootyblasted over PythonSelkan spoiling this ruse so he had YongYea made that video about how it's impossible for Death Stranding to be Silent Hills.

I guess that kinda explains that

I still can't stand Yonggggguuuuyeeee though
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I don't even give a fuck if this is real or not. Just reading about it is fun, just with other conspiracy theories.

>>377618034
What happened to that surgeon anyway?
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>>377618337
I think the same
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>>377618337
That's the spirit, welcome a board.
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>>377618034
>Kojima got bootyblasted over PythonSelkan spoiling this ruse

Didn't he say something like he wanted people to investigate like that to find out by themselves? Plus, even if some people are actually right about this, 1) they still would need actual confirmation to be sure, and 2) it's still pretty much ignored by a majority of the world (even in the gaming community). So it must be exciting for Kojima to know that some people are onto something but he's still pulling the ruse to a majority of people... I don't know if I'm clear.
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>>377618337
>What happened to that surgeon anyway?
Exactly what I said, the surgery is supposed to be happening this year. The doctor also said he'll use VR to help his patient learn how to move after surgery and that VR can be used to treat phantom pain which lends more credibility to the "TPP is VR simulation" theory.
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>>377618337
That surgeon should happens this year.
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>>377618773
Yeah, I was being facetious, I'm sure Kojima is getting giddy seeing that a small collect few are actually figuring this shit out but he definitely uses YongYea to spread some misinformation to try and confuse us.
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>>377616847
Simon & Garfunkel
Nsync
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>>377618794
Did people ever figure out what the weird lens flare shit in GZ/TPP was? I think I remember it being a tape pattern, but it's been a while.
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>>377619256
Glitches in the simulation?
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>>377619332
Maybe. But are there any messages in the patterns? Does it match up with anything?
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>thinking that DS is Silent Hills when everything points towards MGS
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>>377619509
Fuck off FIB you mentally ill degenerate.
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>>377619256
I thought in TPP it had something to do with the sharpnel pressing on a certain area of the brain
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>>377618958
YungStealer is just in for the money.
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>>377619509
What if it's Silent Hill with MGS characters?
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>>377619579
I'm not even FIB but ok
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could someone tell me who the fuck is FIB
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Do you think we'll have information about all this during this E3? Are there any clues leading to that?
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>>377619706
It's not. It's MGS with SH elements.
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>>377619841
Reedus is snek?
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>>377616392
>Konami would intentionally deal with months upon months bad PR and shit-talking from Kojimbo's buddies for "muh ruse cruise"

Nigga, that's retarded.
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>>377616392
So, what happens when Death Stranding comes out and it isn't Silent Hills? Do you just move the goalposts further and move your theories to the next game? It's fucking pathetic.
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>>377619816
Konami suddenly advertising for nuclear disarmament and Kojima twitting a box of MGS and DS figurine.
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>>377617898
Death Stranding is going be more boring open-world garbage #FucKojima
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>>377620016
that's the only thing that I find a bit hard to believe... It would indeed seem like a counter intuitive thing for a big company
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>>377620016
Bad PR hasn't affected their business, at least not negatively, since their profit increased.
Bad pubblicity is still pubblicity.
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>>377619901
Possibly.
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>>377620047
>mgsv was boring

it was lacking but it wasn't boring
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>>377619816
A lot of suspicious shit has been going on with E3 right around the corner.

Nuclear disarmament has been impossible to achieve due to glitches and things like blockades. Konami have started providing updates on the nuke counter for the first time in about seven months. Someone called "J-san" has joined the Survive team and is pushing us to disarm the nukes, J signs the PT system crash screen and J is on the entrance to the bridge Del Toro enters. Kojima said that nuclear disarmament would take more than a year to achieve. It was a rigged game from the start, we'll only be able to achieve it when Kojima lets us. Recently Konami said they'll be removing nukes obtained by "cheating" and will be making it easier (e.g, removing blockades).

Sony also trademarked "v" as a game property using the same contractor who did Death Stranding and Decima.

The final emblem in TPP that hasn't been released is a picture of Kojima's head and it's set to be released on the first day of E3.

TPP has one more ending where we revisit Camp Omega which will completely refrain the events of TPP. It will likely drop when nuclear disarmament is reached. It'll either drop the first day of E3, or before. Then the real MGS5 and Silent Hills will be announced at Sony's conference.

>>377620016
You think Konami give a fuck about a bunch of nerds spamming their Twitter and Facebook? When it turns out to be a ruse everyone will love them for having the balls to go along with Kojima's stunt.
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>>377620313
I think it was boring for faggots that exclusivily used tranq sniper rifle and pistol.
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>>377620435
meh even then the gameplay was very solid and general optimisation impressive
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Will we ever get to download P.T. again? Kinda hate how I can't download it anymore even though it's in my library

It was the scariest night since I played SH1 back then
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>>377619841
This is the stupidest fucking post I've ever seen related to the ruse cruise. Kojima is not gonna mash Silent Hill and Metal Gear together. Silent Hill fans would be booty blasted beyond belief. To get blueballed over Silent Hills, only for it to be announced again and find out it's gonna be some mish mash of Metal Gear and Silent Hill.
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>>377620621
PT will likely be included as a bonus feature on the Silent Hills release.
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>>377619802
caramel's phantom or something
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>>377620313

It was both boring and lacking. It was a waste of a good engine that for the first time provided an MGS game with good controls.
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>>377620639
We are Ludens. We are those who play.
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>>377616007
who cares, post qts
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>>377620639
I'm not saying it's a mix between MGS and DS.
It simply has SH elements to it. It's mainly MGS.
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>>377620435
>>377620557

>dude le epic blow helicopter with a truck dunkey xD
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Was MGS5 so shit that made all his fan base even more retarded?
Holy fuck dude, kys.
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>>377620843
Wrong. Silent Hills will be a full separate game. There is no way in hell Kojima would tease us over Silent Hills only to never release it.
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>>377620757
>ludens
What the fuck does any of this have to do with cough drops?
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>>377620336
>It'll either drop the first day of E3, or before. Then the real MGS5 and Silent Hills will be announced at Sony's conference.

Anon, visit a doctor. You need it.
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>>377620785
Best girl, bar the tattoo.
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>>377620785
You start
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>>377620963
We have mountains of evidence to prove it. It's all but confirmed at this point.
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>>377616392
If this shit somehow happens, it's gonna be talked about for 3 years non stop.
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>>377616007
As much as I actually wish this was true, the meme is stale and the people who genuinely believe it are delusional.
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>>377620943
SH is Konami property. Cuckjima has fuck all to do with it anymore.
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>>377620435
I played mostly that way and had a lot of fun though. I did turn off reflex though, I just wish there were hard saves at start of missions so you could reload back to that if you died or failed the mission in some way.
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>>377620621
There's a way to to download it even now, as long as it's in your library.

Google it and sppok your guts off
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>>377621046

You have tons of acrobatic connections out of coincidence. Not a single proof. Konami is dead, and Kojima hates MGS. Silent Hills was cancelled, and you are for a disappointment, again.
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http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1495389094437.webm
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>>377621221
Kojima wasn't fired moron.

>>377621235
There's too many coincidences for this to be a coincidence.
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>>377621313
>There's too many coincidences for this to be a coincidence.
Literally the most retarded thing I've seen in my ~12 years on this website
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>>377621235
>It- IT JUST COINCIDENCE
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>>377616007
KYS, Caramel
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>>377619579
>>377620336
>>377618034
>you mentally ill degenerate.
Holy fuck what an autism, sad that kojima cucks are this fucking fucked in the head
Hope you get better someday and reconsider you life, niggers
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>>377621313

>There's too many coincidences

Actually there's none. So if you're not an ironic shitposter forcing a stale meme, you have developed Pareidolia and it's time to look into Clozapine.
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>>377621313

You never considered the facts pointing the opposite direction, do you? Like Metal Gear Survive, DS trailers not connected to SH or MGS, and you know, the actual facts.
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>>377616007
yawn
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>>377621536
>DS trailers not connected to SH
I've already pointed out all the connections here >>377616128.

What facts suggest otherwise? Kojima was fired? This was never confirmed anywhere. It's all rumors and second hand sources. Kojima warned you about misinformation on the internet in MGS2 yet you're still falling for it.
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You're wrong.

Where's my fucking money?
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do rusefags understand how evidence works?

evidence doesn't prove anything, it just narrows down a range of possibilities by demonstrating a relationship between factors and an object

some evidence for the ruse is there, but it doesn't prove the ruse is happening, and because it's such an outlandish idea it's all but "confirmed"

if you weren't so emotionally invested in the idea you'd see that
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>>377621313
>Kojima wasn't fired
Yeah sure the Yakuza bosses at Konami have nothing better to do than indulge cuckjima
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>>377621670

>This was never confirmed anywhere.

>https://www.polygon.com/2015/12/16/10270432/hideo-kojima-new-studio-playstation

>Hideo Kojima forms new studio and partnership with Sony, confirms departure from Konami

time to fucking ban this for real
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>yfw you realize if the ruse cruise is real Konami's E3 presentation will be the greatest that there will ever be and will never be topped by anything
>Even if E3 stops being complete shit it will always be a disappointment compared to this year if all this nonsense is true
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So why did kojima have fukushima killed by the yakuza?
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>>377621729
cu-cuck fuck cuckity cuck? Cu-cuck cuck cuck-uck.
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>>377621872
Konami themselves have not said anything about this.
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>>377621670
>Kojima warned you about misinformation on the internet in MGS2 yet you're still falling for it.
you're saying this like we worship kojima like you do. I don't look at things as for or against kojima's videogame themes, I just look at things and interpret whether or not they align with my experience of reality and trustworthy sources, neither of which are in favor of this ridiculous fantasy
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>>377621235
If Kojima hates MGS why is he working with Jordan Vogt-Roberts on a MGS movie? And why is Konami suddenly ok with Kojima being involved with MGS stuffs, although in the past they were so assblasted by him that didn't even let him receive an award?
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>>377621454
That's right anon, glad you figured it out, good job.
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>>377622012
>I just look at things and interpret whether or not they align with my experience of reality and trustworthy sources, neither of which are in favor of this ridiculous fantasy
None of the evidence we have would exist if the ruse wasn't real.

>>377622036
And why did Jordan start laughing when asked about the Konami / Kojima split?
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>>377621942
And what they should say about this, dumb nigger?
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>>377619256
>>377619332
Most people associate that lens flare effect with stress inducing moments in V, just like the stress bar changing during cutscenes in 4.
The explanation Kojima delivered was pic related.


>>377619256
This picture I don't specifically remember. Is it from one of his tweets?
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I lost all respect for him when he didn't name his new studio Hideo Games. Missed a golden opportunity. Also he's a senile old fuck. He's the Miyamoto of Sony.
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>>377622124
Make a formal statement about how Kojima has been a wonderful employee / partner and we wish him the best of luck for his future endeavors.

>>377622135
>This picture I don't specifically remember. Is it from one of his tweets?
Yes.
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>>377622054
Hes making fun of you, just letting you known. Kek
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>>377622135
Found this
https://twitter.com/mamegyorai_jp/status/591030868539375616
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post beautiful soviet boys.
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>>377621921

Literally take credit for his work. Like Ridley Scott is now pretending to have masterminded Alien, when it reality he was a studio-appoined director, and the real creative force behind its iconic status was actually Dan O'Bannon. When he died, Ridley started outting out his garbage prequels couple of years later.
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>>377622095
>None of the evidence we have would exist if the ruse wasn't real.
the videogame industry doesn't work in such a way that would facilitate this ruse, this kind of thing has never happened before, capitalism doesn't work like this, konami is a publically traded mega corp, etc.
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>>377621872
>polygon
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>>377622260
It wasn't me, just letting you know kek.
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>That fucking 3 and a half hour~ analysis of the hospital scene, Low Roar album, and DS trailers/PT gameplay

I want to believe
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>>377622251
Sure they should complement fucker because all of the money was lost on some horses and shitters instead of actors and music from 80s that no one gives a fuck about in the fucking mgs game
Fuck off with that shit, autismo
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You can tell the people who believe these theories are retarded because every time a person or company does something that counteracts the narrative the conspiracyfags assume that means that they're in on the ruse too.

If any of you honestly think something with this many moving parts, across this many different countries, companies and people could be kept this secret then you must be as idiotic as these threads make you look.
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>>377622436
to add to this post, just to remind everyone, the president of the united states couldn't even cover up fucking an intern
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>>377622293
Kojima was vice president of their games division. You're blowing this way out of proportion because you have zero ambition for yourself. All that's happening is TPP has having it's final ending withheld from us, we're told Silent Hills is cancelled (when Kojima is actually shoving it in our fucking faces under a different title) and they're announcing ANOTHER MGS5.

Oh yes, how fucking evil, no corporation would dare do this. How big and scary, what a devious plot. Dumb fuck.
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>>377622342
DS is MGS my dudes. Case closed.
Don't listen to this Caramel retard
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>>377621729
How is Kojima a cuck exactly?
Stop spounting buzzwords, cancer.
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>>377622334
Haha well memed friend xD
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>>377622251
But Why? They have no reason to restate what kojima already confirmed. You sound silly anon, this whole thing is ridiculous.
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>>377616563
>>377616620
>>377620757
Did it occur to you that the reason Konami hasn't released the emblem as of yet might be cause it would do more harm then good by doing so, after the whole Kojima debacle?

I mean idk when they added the emblem in the game, it could be no problem legally for all I know. But it could be a problem releasing content obviously based off a real person that no longer works there right now.

Where'd all the shit about them releasing it on E3 come from?
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>>377621921
Fukushima was loadly against the pachinko business.
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>>377622851
The only silly one here is your dumb ass for ignoring what's right in front of you. It's irrefutable at this point.
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>>377622393
What's it like having a double-digit IQ score
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>>377622854
Hilarious how non-believers always have to start their sentences with "did", "if", "but". Yeah, that's a lots of ifs, buts and dids. Get fucked.
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>>377622919
I can't tell if you are memeing or if you are serious about that delusion. I think that's what makes these threads so interesting to me.
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>>377622854
>Where'd all the shit about them releasing it on E3 come from?
If you follow the pattern of all the other emblems being released Kojima's emblem is set to release first day of E3.
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>>377622342
>3 and a half hour~ analysis of the hospital scene,
What?
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>>377623000
Man I'm either going to enjoy Kojima's ruse or enjoy laughing my ass off at how hard you're about to get BTFO at E3 this year

My guess is the latter
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>>377622854
>>377623000
The emblem was added in a patch way post launch. Kojima was on his vacation while Konami added an emblem of his face in the game.
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>>377622436
>>377622510
>None of the neverbegameover nutters respond to these posts because they literally can't refute the point

Really makes you think
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>You're blowing this way out of proportion because you have zero ambition for yourself.
it's not about having ambition, it's about the fact that konami has had their named dragged through the mud and shareholders would hate this.keep in mind we live in a world where games have to be dumbed down to the point of retardation because the business model for vidya is to try to alienate as little people as possible

>>377622564
corporations don't care about being evil, they care about their public image which has been tarnished to fuck
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>>377623151
The 3 and a half hours are about the total of all the videos, the hospital scene one is nearly 30 minutes
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>>377622393
>all of the money was lost
What the fuck are you talking about? MGSV recovered all the budget spent on day one.
You think MGSV was a failure just because people on /v/ hate it?
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>>377622919
>Caramel !!3ZzvK//z/zU
namefags need to go.
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>>377622919
how do you rationalize the fact that only you care about this? you know most people aren't even looking at the evidence because it's such a ridiculous premise right? wouldn't this be a better ruse if more than a handful of people were paying attention? personally I haven't even watched the DS trailer
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>>377622436
>>377622510
>>377623212
You all got rused
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>the deluded tripfag is at it again
just kill yourself already m8
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>>377623423
>You think MGSV was a failure just because people on /v/ hate it?

/v/ loved MGSV until people started getting to the end
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>>377622510
Was there an NDA on the fucking?
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>>377623212
The ruse is a lot simpler than you think.

>>377623235
>corporations don't care about being evil, they care about their public image which has been tarnished to fuck
Actually it's the other way round, corporations don't give a fuck about their public image if they're making money. The only damage down here is a bunch of nerds spamming their Twitter and Facebook. You really think Konami give a shit about that? And everyone will love them even more than before when the ruse is revealed because they dared to go along with the vision of an artist.

>>377623471
If you don't give a shit about Kojima, Death Stranding, Metal Gear or Silent Hill then why are you in this thread?
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Can't wait for E3 so this namefag habgs himself.
Nothing is going to happen. Probably new Death Stranding trailer and maybe a little of gameplay
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>>377621313
How many Jews has Kojima hired to make all these (((coincidences)))?
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>>377623680
Just One
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>>377616786

I kinda thought he was in on some sort of secret with the way he was chimping out, but two years later, I guess he really did just throw a public temper tantrum. I'm a little surprised he never moved to a Russian jungle.
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>>377623593
>The ruse is a lot simpler than you think.

But it requires literally thousands of people across several different companies on several different continents to all keep quiet about it.

You think there wouldn't have been a leak? Some verified insider? You're fucking deluded.
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>>377623593

If you really do believe this then I bet you 100$ that you're wrong.

I'll post an email so you can email me to set this up.

Should be an easy 100$ for you, right?
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>>377623593
>Actually it's the other way round, corporations don't give a fuck about their public image if they're making money.
that's not true at all, because their public image is one of the factors in the amount of money they make. why do you think Ubisoft and EA apologize and try to stop being faggots?
>The only damage down here is a bunch of nerds spamming their Twitter and Facebook. You really think Konami give a shit about that?
dude they were boo'd at a journalist / industry event, to put this into perspective, this would be like a restaurant making a bad dish for food critics on purpose
>If you don't give a shit about Kojima, Death Stranding, Metal Gear or Silent Hill then why are you in this thread?
I do give a shit about kojima, metal gear and silent hill, but all those series are over and kojima is working on project that doesn't look interesting to me with only trailers to its name. I'm here for the same reason everyone else is here though, to entertain myself by interacting with people who believe something so outlandish it's hard to not think of it as anything but a mental illness
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>>377623678
Unfortunately cowards like Caramel will just disappear once proven wrong. There will be no satisfaction from this idiocy.
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>>377623890
>But it requires literally thousands of people across several different companies on several different continents to all keep quiet about it.
Thousands? Shut your mouth kid. The higher ups of Konami, Sony and Kojima's development team are the only ones who need to shut up. Higher ups don't give a fuck about "leaking" anything and Kojimia's team would be under stritct NDAs. NDAs aren't something you break for fun because YOLO xD, if you break one you can lose every asset you have and become homeless.

Then you have a few random people like King Kong director, Del Toro and Dorito Pope who simply will not ruin the ruse because they RESPECT Kojima and his work.

>>377623943
If there's some sort of legit betting site we could somehow bet on this with I would legit throw down 10k.
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>>377623890
You don't mess with NDAs.
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>>377623000
Did you read my post though?

If you had, maybe you'd see that there's far more evidence pointing to these things being coincidences then details in a grand master stroke of genius by God king Kojima.

But the hype behind v was so intense, that some of you guys snapped when it came out and all this konami drama came to light that the idea that all of this is just a bunch of puzzle pieces to a grand future reveal, that mgsv will live up to your pre release expectations, that it will live up to your imagination when you imagined what Kojima was talking about when he talked about what he was going to do with mgsv.
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You know FIB is going to be right at the end of this ride.
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>>377624192
you were wrong
where's my fucking money?
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fuck off namefags, you want recognition then go to school
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>>377616007
But where is the proof?
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>>377624035
>that's not true at all, because their public image is one of the factors in the amount of money they make. why do you think Ubisoft and EA apologize and try to stop being faggots?
But their public image doesn't affect how much money they make. If they release a new game which looks good, people will buy them. PES is still going as strong as ever.
>dude they were boo'd at a journalist / industry event, to put this into perspective, this would be like a restaurant making a bad dish for food critics on purpose
Dorito Pope's VGA (who is on the ruse)? Yeah, a bunch of people booing, GAME OVER KONAMI YOU'RE FUCKING FINISHED. You sound autistic, perhaps you don't understand how human emotions and logic works. Listen here little boy, everyone is mad at Konami for "firing" Kojima, not allowing him to "finish" TPP and "cancelling" Silent Hills. When all of these facts turn out to be incorrect there will be no need to hate him. Hatred isn't permanent you fucking autist.
>I do give a shit about kojima, metal gear and silent hill, but all those series are over and kojima is working on project that doesn't look interesting to me with only trailers to its name.
Wrong.
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>>377624252
>But the hype behind v was so intense, that some of you guys snapped when it came out and all this konami drama came to light that the idea that all of this is just a bunch of puzzle pieces to a grand future reveal, that mgsv will live up to your pre release expectations, that it will live up to your imagination when you imagined what Kojima was talking about when he talked about what he was going to do with mgsv.
it's really sad and kind of scary, there's a documentary about star wars fans who went through something similar, they fell into a deep depression because of the prequels, but with MGSV it's the worst I've ever seen because the themes of the game reflect what's happening irl and kojima twists the knife. it's really like mild PTSD at this point for some of these people
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>>377624192
Can I get a quick rundown
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>>377623423
I'm talking about the production money, when the staff reduction and other shit happened like cancelling PT, dumb nigger
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>>377624358
there is none, but don't let the tripfag hear you say that because he'll post like 10 images which are a mess of non-related 4chan screencaps and tweets, call you kiddo a few times and then act like he's right
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>>377624192
Kid you already outed yourself as a meme, if you want people to buy your bullshit, don't samefag shut talk yourself. No one with a brain is even sort of taking you seriously.

>>377616392
>>377617624

It's just pathetic at this point, just stop posting
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>>377624579
>he
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>>377622967
You tell me, I'm not the OP or believer in some high-level autism shit after all
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>>377616074
Like we were wrong about TPP being MGSV?

Like we were wrong about Snake in V not being Big Boss?
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>>377624553
PT was cancelled by Konami, how is that Kojima fault? Dumb nigger.
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>>377624687
>like when we knew the thing everyone knew about this other game
Oh man, I'm convinced.
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>>377624810
Fags like you were denying it all the way up to the day the game was released.
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>>377624687
The latter was blatantly obvious and had no industry repercussions to deal with. The former is basically asking Konami to bleed out for a while
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>>377624784
>about to get his ass blasted out off Konami
>let's make a Silent Hill(s) game
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>>377623183
I rest my case then. It might never get released. You guys can't deny that this is a more probable explanation then all this just being a sign at something big happening at E3 or something, or whatever you guys want or are expecting.

What is supposed to happen anyway that would warrant this massive mess of lies and political theater anyway?
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>>377624784
>production money
>what the fuck is this shit, i better believe some ruse and other autism, it's better for my neurons
>a fucking nigger
Damn son
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>>377624968
What will you do when the emblem and Camp Omega ending drop the first day of E3? Will you kill yourself? One can only dream.
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Reminder that it's always full moon on mother base. Reminder that Ocelot even points it out on the radio and says that it's weird. Reminder that it's all just a dream where you're stuck in a time loop. That's why peace day never comes.
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>>377624859
Nah kid, everyone already you weren't the real snake months before the game came out. The hospital scene release gave it away almost immediately, you are deluded. I hope you are just being ironic.
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This WOULD be a pretty amazing below the line marketing stunt, but the main problem is since this is basically an ARG, it had to be picked up upon by someone else other than a sole /v/ tripfaggot. Anf Konami would've started hinting at a big reveal by now, since E3 is just 20 days away.

so yeah this is some autistic bullshit

t. marketer
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>>377624919
>such Silent Hill become the most anticipated horror game of this generation
>"LEL LET'S CANCEL IT JUST BECAUSE"
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Let's say it's true.

Let's say it's all true.

How does that stop The Phantom Pain from being a terrible video game.

Does this mean that TPP is suddenly not an uninspired sandbox of Ubisoft proportions?
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>>377624968
I don't think you quite get it.
The fact that this emblem was greenlit for a patch after Kojima got allegedly fired is simply ridiculous.

If you ask me, there's absolutely no point to this ruse. It's stupid.
Keighley put it best, he loves doing this crap
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>>377624398
>But their public image doesn't affect how much money they make. If they release a new game which looks good, people will buy them. PES is still going as strong as ever.
yes it does, jesus christ, how can you even deny this. I agree public image isn't the most important factor there is, but it does influence the success of their company
>When all of these facts turn out to be incorrect there will be no need to hate them. Hatred isn't permanent you fucking autist.
you're implying that everyone who has heard bad things about konami will get an e-mail telling them "it was all a ruse dude" and they'll care, this isn't how the world works, even if it was all a ruse there would still be surviving negative sentiment about konami
>Wrong.
even if I am wrong, that's what I think and that's what 99.99% of people think. so where does that leave the ruse? to be spammed by a handful of autistics and laughed at by everyone else?
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>>377625109
Nice revisionism my man.
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>>377623000
reminder to filter all tripfags
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>>377625194

I'M SORRY, LINEAR GAMES, I'M SO SORRY I TAKE IT BACK I TAKE IT ALL BACK
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>>377625194
VR simulation, so it's imperfect by nature
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>>377625059
not him, but I'd get excited and start paying attention to the ruse because I didn't like TPP, but until that happens, which it probably won't, I'm just going to laugh at the delusional fantasy that is the ruse
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>>377625287
Well since you put it like that I've bought 3 copies.
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>>377623212
Some of us aren't that nutty. It's just that the sane people don't really post much so all you see at any given time on the frontpage is the conspiracy bullshit.
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>>377625287
this is what VR looked like in the 2000's
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Because I don't care anymore
I don't feel like buying ANOTHER MGS game after a demo, a bigger demo and according to you the real game
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>>377617758
>tfw in order to fall, you must first rise
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>>377625194
>terrible video game
That's just your and a few other neets on /v/ opinion.
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I expect my boys to have filtered the tripshits name and reported the fuck out of his sorry ass am i right?
I mean, it can't possibly happen that a falseflag thread will reach 300+ posts, can't it?
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>>377625507
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>>377625194
I didn't mind the open world in the phantom pain, a lot more could have been done with it, a cool coop mode could have worked wonders for replay value. Overall though, it has a lot of fun shit you can do if you are creative enough to try fun shit. TPP was mediocre overall but as far as open worlds go I can think of plenty that are worse.
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>>377625645
nanomachines didn't exist in the 80's, vocal cord parasites were the precursor to them
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>>377625141
>started hinting at a big reveal by now
They have been though. If you bothered to read what I post you'd realize.

>>377625194
The gameplay is what it is, but the story will be completely refrained with the Camp Omega ending. The real MGS5 will be a full satisfying experience.

>>377625265
>yes it does, jesus christ, how can you even deny this. I agree public image isn't the most important factor there is, but it does influence the success of their company
And their profits are doing nothing but improving ever since Kojima was "fired". Destroyed.
>you're implying that everyone who has heard bad things about konami will get an e-mail telling them "it was all a ruse dude" and they'll care, this isn't how the world works, even if it was all a ruse there would still be surviving negative sentiment about konami
Most "gamers" don't even know about this Konami "controversy". It was all spread by second hand sources and rumors. The truth will be spread using the biggest gaming event in the world. Get fucked. Anyone internet savvy enough to learn about the Konami controversy will most certainly hear about the truth.
>even if I am wrong, that's what I think and that's what 99.99% of people think. so where does that leave the ruse? to be spammed by a handful of autistics and laughed at by everyone else?
Being part of the 99.9% isn't a good thing if they're retards.

>>377625507
Then a few years later in MGS2 Raiden goes through 1:1 simulation of Shadow Moses and the tanker. The Patriots suppress technology is a constant ass pull and seeing as the Patriots would be the one responsible for putting Big Boss through TPP's simulation, it makes sense for them to have the most realistic version of it.
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>>377625194
Sorry linear games, I was wrong about you
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>>377625271
It will happens again when this ruse is completely or partially proven to be right.
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>>377625732
but what if the real MGS5's plot isn't actually set in the 80's?
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>>377625194
gameplay-wise this game is great, the problem is that it has MG's name on it, a franchise so story focused that this one's was a terrible blow
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is this some sort of meta ruse or are you actually serious
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>>377625271
>everyone on /v/ is that one guy who memed me in a thread about TPP before it's release
Nah, everyone just knew it, don't feel bad when you are wrong about this one.
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>>377625746
>MGS5 will be a full satisfying experience.
I have a feeling of deja vu
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>>377625194
But I always liked openworld games like OoT or Souls. Where the plot is still linear but you can revisit places.
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>>377625892
This Caramel faggot's 100% serious.
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>>377625892
this guy has been shitting up threads for a week I think, reposting the same images and shitting on anyone who doesn't agree with him

at this point I'm just watching for the hell of it
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>>377625746
Nigger are you still posting?
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>>377625265
>I agree public image isn't the most important factor there is, but it does influence the success of their company
Pray tell, how exactly?
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>>377626042
>a week
Try months.
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>>377625935
>Dark Souls is openworld


You're stupid.
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I sure hope someone is gathering a collage of the posts ITT so that when one side is inevitably BTFO they'll never be allowed to forget it.
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>>377625746
>And their profits are doing nothing but improving ever since Kojima was "fired". Destroyed.
and the reason for getting out of videogames was because they thought they'd make more money, right?
>Most "gamers" don't even know about this Konami "controversy". It was all spread by second hand sources and rumors. The truth will be spread using the biggest gaming event in the world. Get fucked. Anyone internet savvy enough to learn about the Konami controversy will most certainly hear about the truth.
and that doesn't mean they'll give a shit about the self-indulgent ruse. do you think konami releasing intentionally disappointing games for the sake of art is good business?
>Being part of the 99.9% isn't a good thing if they're retards.
irrelevant, the fact remains that nobody cares about the ruse except for being able to laugh at it, so I guess if the ruse is real it's going pretty badly
>Then a few years later in MGS2 Raiden goes through 1:1 simulation of Shadow Moses and the tanker. The Patriots suppress technology is a constant ass pull and seeing as the Patriots would be the one responsible for putting Big Boss through TPP's simulation, it makes sense for them to have the most realistic version of it.
no he doesn't, Snake even says he doesn't, the entire point of VR is that it blurs the line between fantasy and reality, it doesn't emulate reality perfectly. This has been repeated throughout the Solid saga constantly, and it's obviously a clumsy metaphor for videogames, which is outright confirmed in MGS4 when Eva talks about how kids playing FPS games turn into soldiers.
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>>377625661

>Overall though, it has a lot of fun shit you can do if you are creative enough to try fun shit.

LE EPIC VIDEOGAME DUNKEY MEMES!
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>>377625804
then it would fuck up the timeline
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Why would people want to believe Kojima made a subpar game on purpose? Do you like the idea that he took your $60 for a fucking prank/experiment while delivering half the product you expected? You really want to believe he's intentionally cheating you and about to deliver the other half of a product for an addition charge?
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>>377626151
anon dark souls is not sandbox openworld, but still openworld. Because you can fucking revisit everything. Compared to linear games like COD or Uncharted.
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>>377626115
Non believers BTFO
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>>377626168
>and the reason for getting out of videogames was because they thought they'd make more money, right?

They never quit making video games, you drone.
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>>377626115
they're successful in other areas and mostly in Japan non-videogames, which is the entire reason they wanted to get out of videogame development

Survive is going to perform like shit though, if it's not just cancelled outright
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>>377625287
Oh, it was meant to be shit all along. Bravo Kojima.
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>>377626125
it's been a week since I first saw him

my condolences
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>>377626325
>Because you can fucking revisit everything
I guess Bioshock infinite is an openworld game.


You're stupid.
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Death Stranding is one giant ruse, Konami is also in with the rusement you'll see, YOU'LL ALL SEE!!
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>>377626221
What the fuck does that even mean? You keep spamming this dunkey meme.
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>>377626168
>and the reason for getting out of videogames was because they thought they'd make more money, right?
That was a rumor and Konami themselves made a statement that they were not quitting triple AAA game development.
>and that doesn't mean they'll give a shit about the self-indulgent ruse. do you think konami releasing intentionally disappointing games for the sake of art is good business?
Meme all you want but most normies think TPP was meh at worst. It was a disappointing Metal Gear experience but it still had plenty of hours of content. Even for a game that was aiming to be disappointing it was still better than 80% of games that are made seriously and end up being shit.
>irrelevant, the fact remains that nobody cares about the ruse except for being able to laugh at it, so I guess if the ruse is real it's going pretty badly
Well you'll be calling me a genius when I turn out to be right.
>no he doesn't, Snake even says he doesn't, the entire point of VR is that it blurs the line between fantasy and reality, it doesn't emulate reality perfectly.
Yes he does. Snake says this because there's no consequence in VR. No one really dies so there's no actual pressure or stakes.
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>>377626410
okay, let me rephrase, they wanted to get out of making videogames that have long, expensive and complicated development cycles like MGS and focus more on bullshit. happy?
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>>377626115
pachinko is a hell of a drug
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>>377626565
PULL THE LEVER
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>>377626434
Their last videogame sold very well, you are full of bullshit.
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>>377626487
a ruse so big and complicated he has rused himself into believing the game will materialize out of the ether of the dark matter of the universe

GENIUS
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>>377626476
Is bioshock a linear shooter you moron? No. Of course it is open world.

Bethesda didn´t invented the "open-world" term just because everyone now uses it because of skyrim.
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Reminder Kojambo has buttered his anus for the rusing. David Hayter voices Big Boss. You'll see this E3.

MGSV was trash on purpose, he was rusing you so he caught you off guard when he annonced MGS5
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>>377626635
9/10 times I have no idea what is going on when I play it on yakuza games, but man it's entertaining just to watch
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>>377626221
>Le epic memes ecks dee
Isn't it easier to just say you don't have an argument?
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>>377626494

>What the fuck does that even mean?

It means the core gameplay is shit, it's not "fun", people parroting it saw dunkey do the stupid truck shit and the box meme and think that's what the whole game is like. It doesn't reward you for being creative, since there is nothing in the world apart from soldiers and indestructible tents.

Saying

>it has a lot of fun shit you can do if you are creative enough to try fun shit.

Is basically admitting that you have to LARP about the game actually being anything other than dogshit. It's one step removed from placeholders and tech demos. Based Kojima and Konami, the master rusemen.
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>>377626115
DELETE THIS
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>>377626712
>tfw Kojimbo made MGSV solely to prove that open world games are trash
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>>377626674
4/10

a little too obvious but you still got me a little bit
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>>377626712
I just dunno man.
He did that with ad campaign for MGS 2 being all solid snake, then zonk you get raiden.
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>TF2 Pyro update not released yet
>yfw The Fury is the main antagonist of the game
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13014328
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>>377625059
I'll probably play mgsv a little more, and say "neat." to myself.

I don't want mgsv to end like this. I'd love for it to get some new content to help fill in the voids the game left.
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>>377626712
But everyone said this at TGS and VGAs and nothing happens. You guys just keep pushing the date back over and over and pretending you don't say this every single time an eventhappens
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>>377626825
>people parroting it saw dunkey do the stupid truck shit

Never saw a single video of your faggot youtuber and I still like MGSV.
Believe it or not, but different people like different things. Fun is subjective.
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>>377626541
That's better.
At this moment, I can't even disprove what you're saying.

I'm pissed by how the media portrays Konami's actions(though they are far from saints, Team Silent and most likely Igarashi are on their hands), making people spew their memes ad nauseam.

People are actually selling Fuckonami shirts, you know.
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>>377626712
what I don't get is why make MGSV disappointing on purpose, I mean yes phantom pain and all that shit but why sell an inferior product, was he so much of a perfectionist that Konami demanded 2 demos for this game?
just for artistic nonsense?
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>>377626523
>That was a rumor and Konami themselves made a statement that they were not quitting triple AAA game development.
konami also said "kojima is on vacation", why would you listen to konami
>Meme all you want but most normies think TPP was meh at worst. It was a disappointing Metal Gear experience but it still had plenty of hours of content. Even for a game that was aiming to be disappointing it was still better than 80% of games that are made seriously and end up being shit.
that doesn't matter, what matters is the idea of there being a "real MGSV" means millions of people bought an inferior fake MGSV for the sake of Kojima's art
>Well you'll be calling me a genius when I turn out to be right.
no I won't, you haven't really done anything except been open-minded enough to interpret evidence that supports an unlikely conclusion
>Yes he does. Snake says this because there's no consequence in VR. No one really dies so there's no actual pressure or stakes.
Raiden is referring to "sneaking 60 and weapons 80" which look the same as MGS1 VR missions. In fact we can play the same missions in the VR disk and they're not realistic at all, in fact they're the same as the pic I posted earlier. The point of Raiden's character is that his sense of reality has been diminished
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So what if nothing is revealed at E3? Do the theorists push it back to next years E3?
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>>377626825
I had fun, I'm sorry you couldn't have fun with it, the story was pretty shit, and it felt underdeveloped in a lot of ways, it could have been way better, but there are far worse open world games, especially games that started linear and went open world. MGS5 isn't any 10/10, but it was entertaining.
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>>377627280
why stop the fun
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>>377627347
>fun
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>>377627280
that's what they've been doing for like a year and a half now.
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>>377627219

Ground Zeroes: Small level, the feeling of being locked in a small room

Phantom Pain: Big areas, freedom.


They're different coins of the same coin. The Kojima ruse coin.

MGS5 is coming. Just check David Hayter tweets lately. He's dropping hints.
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>>377627258
>why would you listen to konami
Why would you listen to Kojima?
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>kojima makes shitty games of purpose to trick you into buying his latest shitty game full of AAA design guard rails KOJIMA = GOD

Not even Yoko Taro fans are this stupid and they're pretty fucking stupid
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>>377627434
we're not just listening though, we're seeing Kojima form a new studio and begin development on a new game while he runs around getting permission to use a new engine and all kinds of shit
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>>377627280
It continues until Death Stranding is released I guess
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So what if MGS5 is actually bad?

Is that another step of the ruse?
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>>377627590
It was all a set up for the bigger ruse for MGS6 where you play as Big Boss's and Solid Snake's son.
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>>377616007
i never stopped believing
kojima is one of the most absolutely based people this industry has ever or will ever see
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>>377626638
the videogames they're releasing now are super mainstream / cheap shit and they're not having to fund more expensive projects that don't have the kind of returns they'd like

but everyone HATES survive with a passion and they haven't even continued to talk about it
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>>377627219
>just for artistic nonsense?
Business as usual.

>>377627539
the last time he talked about the development of the game he compared it to making a restaurant, picking the furniture and forks/knives
death stranding is either a ruse or a fraud
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>>377627647
Little did you know that you will be playing a card box with Kojima's face on it
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>>377627745
And inside that cardboard box is a tiny orbital frame piloted by Kojima
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>>377627737
Kojima says weird shit all the time, remember when he said "goodbye sausage" or "you'll be ashamed of your words and deeds"
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>>377627451

Is that Ralph Bakshi or Rene Laloux?
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>>377627849
I feel like I missed the first thing
when did he say that?
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>>377627695
My point still stand, they haven't lost a single dime because of the bad PR yet. And if the ruse is true and they'll announce MGS/SH their PR will be restore at least.
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>>377627943
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>>377627258
>konami also said "kojima is on vacation", why would you listen to konami
Because he is.
>that doesn't matter, what matters is the idea of there being a "real MGSV" means millions of people bought an inferior fake MGSV for the sake of Kojima's art
I already answered this. Meme all you want but most normies think TPP was meh at worst. It was a disappointing Metal Gear experience but it still had plenty of hours of content. Even for a game that was aiming to be disappointing it was still better than 80% of games that are made seriously and end up being shit. Regardless of whether or not it was the inferior version of MGS5, it had 100s of hours of content.
>no I won't, you haven't really done anything except been open-minded enough to interpret evidence that supports an unlikely conclusion
I would love to know what your laughable IQ is.
>Raiden is referring to "sneaking 60 and weapons 80" which look the same as MGS1 VR missions. In fact we can play the same missions in the VR disk and they're not realistic at all, in fact they're the same as the pic I posted earlier. The point of Raiden's character is that his sense of reality has been diminished
He also went through VR simulations of the tanker and Shadow Moses.
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>>377627451
that's the mindset I don't get

sure BIG RUSE MASTER RUSEMAN yadda yadda

and then I still have to buy ANOTHER game, if it was just an update I could shallow it but not like this
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>>377628007
>fuck you konami
>you will be ashamed of your words and deeds

Oh boy
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>>377627849
My point is how sketchy that statement was.
There is next to nothing but comparisons to two TPS games when it comes to the gameplay.
Everyone is hyped to find out who's the next Hollywood star to be featured in the next ebin mindfuck lmao trailer.
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Cant take preorder money for a fake game.

False advertising is illegal.

Get fucked ruse fags
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>>377627881
leloux
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>>377627849
>"you'll be ashamed of your words and deeds"
What the fuck was that about anyway?
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>>377628227
Kek, they also took preorders for Silent Hills.

Keep humiliating yourself, kiddo.
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>>377628227
Is this pic related?

Who said Survive is fake. Caramel?
Don't listen to that idiot
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>>377628227
What even happened to Survive?
We haven't seen anything since the announcement trailer, and it's basically just a mod for MGSV
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>>377628342
canned due to awful reception
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>>377628254
It was about people getting upset over Quiet's outfit.
And then it turned out the reason Quiet wears her outfit is stupid anyways.
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I found caramel's twitter; it's @MGtheories
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>>377628309
No they didn't.
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>>377628309
Silent Hills wasn't fake though, it just got cancelled.
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>>377628037
chico = quite confirmed
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>>377621921
to make finding Fukushima's ghost more spooky in mgs1
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>>377628461
Yes they did.

>>377628464
It shows pre-orders are refunded autist.
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>>377628041
>I already answered this. Meme all you want but most normies think TPP was meh at worst. It was a disappointing Metal Gear experience but it still had plenty of hours of content. Even for a game that was aiming to be disappointing it was still better than 80% of games that are made seriously and end up being shit. Regardless of whether or not it was the inferior version of MGS5, it had 100s of hours of content.
surely the mainstream audience will love the idea of buying a falsely advertised product that's intended to be worse than the one they haven't bought yet!
>He also went through VR simulations of the tanker and Shadow Moses.
so what? Raiden says sneaking 60 and weapons 80 are indistinguishable from the real thing. Have you considered the reason why he thinks the VR simulations seem accurate is because he doesn't know what accurate is, and since we're playing the tanker from Raiden's perspective it's made out to be believable so we're put in his shoes?
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>>377628342
Konami execs asked Kojima to make a cash grab to fund MGS6 development since it's going to take ~5-6 years.
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>>377628563
Prove it. You cant because they didnt do it.
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>>377628418
Did they actually cancel it? I mean it would make sense. No bullshit, but I didn't hear anything about them dropping it.
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>>377628563
I have one question, Caramel

Have dataminers found camp omega map in TPP??
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>>377628449
If it was then he'd know about the recruitment page source code.

I'm guessing Caramel is just someone who took the PythonSelkan redpill
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>>377628563
You don't get to call anyone else except FIB an autist.
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>>377628703
>If it was then he'd know about the recruitment page source code.
HE does, he's the first one that posted it
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>>377628657
No. It's still coming out this year.
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>>377628779
No, I told him I'd post it yesterday, and I posted it today. He didn't know about it.
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>>377628661
Camp Omega is an MGO map so obviously it's there.

There is a shot in a trailer though where Kaz is standing in the room where Paz is held in GZ which is not present in the final game.
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Who hype for kojimaless mgs? I know i am
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>FucKonami
Yeah, no, Kojima is really not working for Konami anymore.
So much bad press would never be allowed.
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>>377628661
The map itself is there but the scripts that make up the scenario when we return do not, Konami has to release them from their servers. The GzHelicopterCrash variable is present which will be utilized when triggering the ending.

>>377628613
Well if you're an underage newfag then there's no hope for you. Online retailers were accepting preorders for Silent Hills when it was announced.

>>377628657
>>377628342
It's not a real game. Don't you find it suspicious the last we heard of it was a gameplay demo last year narrated by Zero, big bad of the series known for information control? Notice any suspicious parallels here?
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>>377628563
The memer is still posting....
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>>377628976
No. Show me a title card or screenshot or ANYTHING that says pre order silent hills.

You cant. They didnt offer it.

You lose. Good day sir.
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>>377628914
I'd like to see a MGS without Kojima, but I don't want it to be a Zombie Survival Game, though.
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>>377629068
You could literally pre-order it from the Amazon website, kiddo.
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>>377628342
>>377628418
>>377628657
>They quit videogames
>Dude pachinko lmao
>Survive is cancelled!

I wonder who could be behind this post.
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>>377628912
Both are in the game, just reused textures

Sorry anon
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>>377629105
Prove it.
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So are we getting Silent Hills or Chapter 3?
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>>377629139
Well there wouldn't be any evidence you underage cretin, since you ability to pre-order it does no longer exist.
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>>377629197
We're getting Death Stranding
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>>377628227
This kills the caramel
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>>377628912
is this the scene you're referring to?
https://youtu.be/WeV992m7L84?t=8350
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>>377629089
I'm pretty much neutral towards it
is it stupid? yes, but then again MGS is really stupid at points
I would really want to see a spin off MGS game set on the same universe without Kojima, just to see how it could work
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>>377629209
>theres no evidence

Aaaaaand there we go.

Thanks.
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>>377629197
see
>>377616392

>>377629226
I already refuted this. You could pre-order Silent Hills. People will be given refunds.
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>>377616007
Nobody cares Caramel, the only good MGS game is the first.
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>>377629209
Nice proof. XD
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>>377625629
Well i'll be dammed, this thread really got to the 300+ posts.
/v/ is really the buttjoke of the entire website.
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>>377628976
>A game made out of the scraps of an old popular IP was received poorly so it hasn't been showcased in a while, therefore it's a fake game.

Well man, this has got me convinced.
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>>377629124
The more interesting thing is how "Room 101" in our 1984 themed Mother Base looks just like Paz's cell.
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>>377616128
The amount of autism from Kojimafags is always hilarious
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>>377628227
Haha he doesnt know how to talk his way out of this one.

Will be spamming in future threads. Thanks anon
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>>377629446
it's not that interesting, it just shows that there's supposed to be a comparison to be made between Big Boss and Skull Face, which was always the case since Ground Zeroes
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>>377616128
>actually unironically reposting anything Cara el has said, ever
top kek, I don't know who's more embarrassing, you or Caramel.
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>>377628342
It's still scheduled to be released later this year according to Konami's press release.
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>>377629445
there's mountains of evidence
>>377616128
>>377616618
>>377617191
>>377618034
>>377620336
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>>377621087
Try a decade
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>>377629479
I already responded to that one, kiddo.
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>>377629118
I was just asking if Survive was still a thing. I don't know why you quoted me.
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>>377617029
you were wrong
where's my fucking money
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I honestly would like to know what would take for Caramel to admit he was wrong.
Will he admit it after this year's E3?
The release of DS?
Kojima's death?

Seriously, Konami was a large company whose main meal ticket wasn't console gaming, their former CEO died and his son wants more money by cutting costs, that's it.

I have no doubt that TPP would have had more twists and turns to it's story, but those are lost. Maybe someday, someone will write a book about it. But for now, you have to understand that what you are saying is so unlikely that may as well call it impossible.
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>>377629708
It most likely is.
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>>377629697
All you gotta do is show me a pre order for silent hills, and i will secede.

Until then, you are a retard confirmed.
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>>377629697
with what?
people will be given refunds based on your word that they offered pre-order for silent hills? that you can't prove anyway
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>>377629793
he never answers these posts, and he refuses to take about how emotionally invested in this he is

for caramel there's no alternative to the ruse
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>>377629793
with how much he goes around preaching that it will be revealed this e3 if it doesn't happen he will get so BTFO here no one would believe him even if it ends up being real in the end (another date of course)
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>>377629825
>>377629846
It's not my fault you underage little boys weren't around for the Silent Hills announcement.
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>>377629973
Just waiting on that proof babe.
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>>377629793
>after this year's E3?
It will be one after that.
Or some other gaming convention.
>The release of DS?
He'll just say it's part of the ruse/prologue to Silent Hills
>Kojima's death?
Part of the ruse

There's nothing stopping Caramel's insanity.
When Caramel dies, another anon will take up the mantle and continue the madness.
MGS5 rumors will outlive the universe.
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This happened yesterday. THANK YOU based caramel

https://youtu.be/I6YNW7_xhE8
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>>377629627
>there's a mountain of evidence
>shows a bunch of forced connections made by autists
This is some serious effort if you are just being an ironic shitposter
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>>377629793
>Will he admit it after this year's E3?
The ruse is just going on for longer than we thought
>The release of DS?
Death Stranding is just part of the ruse
>Kojima's death?
Kojima's death would just be a giant ruse to trick you into thinking MGS5 won't happen
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>>377629973
I didn't care for silent hills so you can hardly blame me for not preordering a game a had no interest in
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>>377629289
if you have no proof you could pre-order SH you haven't refuted shit
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>>377630085
caramel seems to assume that everyone is obsessed like he is, or else the entire premise of the ruse falls apart because only him and a handful of other mentally ill transsexuals care about this
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>>377630064
>Kojima's death would just be a giant ruse to trick you into thinking MGS5 won't happen
no it would say something like
>this is his final legacy even in death he still serves
or some bullshit like that
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>>377630185
He'll make something up about a body never being seen and some blurred photos of Japs who barely look like Kojima entering the Konami HQ.
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>>377630161
that's another thing that bothers me,
the clues seem to be so obscure (like that fucking J in a blurred texture in the DS trailer) that for the ruse to actually mean anything you had to dedicate much more time most would be willing just to play fucking MGS5
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What if we actually memed all of this and in real life Kojima is just some delusional cuck who loves hollyjew cock and their games are shit? We know the MGS games were good because of
Tomokazu Fukushima. After he left look the shit we got (MGS4, PW, MGSV)
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>>377625194
sorry linear games, i was wrong about you
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Mgsv was so bad, it drove a few people to insanity. Lmao.
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>>377630282
>YOU'LL SEE KOJIMA WILL ASK FOR CREMATION THEN WHEN MGS5 FINALLY GETS ANNOUNCED HE WILL BE CARRIED IN A STRETCHER AND BE REBORN LIKE BB IN MGS4
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>>377630302
Nah man, the clues are there for the true fans of the series and Kojima will personally deliver the people who found the clues to the paradise that is MGS5.
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>>377630351
Tom Fukushima was just the codec guy.
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>>377630418
Of course
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Didn't ground zeroes literally have a side op that's you deleting kojima only games from the mgs series that followed up with some farewell sounding message and a thank you?

I think it's time to let go.
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My favorite part about this thread was when i shut him down with the preorder point and then he stopped posting
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>>377630592
anything that could be interpreted as alluding to a ruse and only a moron would interpret it any other way, but anything that can't be interpreted as alluding to a ruse is just the patriots trying to brainwash you

caramel is literally huey, complete with doublethink
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>>377630549
The whole story is in the codecs. Also that guy was involved in ghost babel which is good too.
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>>377630549

Yeah of course he would say that after the guy is fucking dead.
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>mfw this entire thread

i mean it's bullshit.....but i can believe it
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>>377624427
>>377624252
MGSV completely lived up to my expectations, I've put almost 200 hours into it
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>>377630592
>Didn't ground zeroes literally have a side op that's you deleting kojima only games from the mgs series that followed up with some farewell sounding message and a thank you?
It was a side objective in the two Extra-Ops (Deja-Vu and Jamais-Vu). The Deja Vu mission was first announced in late 2013 (around the launch of the PS4 in the U.S.), so he was already having problems with Konami by that point.
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>>377630728
No, I refuted your pre-order point. Since then no one has posted anything worth responding to.
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>>377630991
You didnt though. And you still haven't shown me a pre order. Tick tock candy boy
>>
have you considered what do to next with your life when E3 comes and nothing happens?

Or is the date gonna switch to TGS then?
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>>377631041
Oh for sure, this meme is gonna roll until death stranding actually releases.
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>>377631041
to be honest even it dosnt comes at this e3, something is in omtion right now, so well see
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>>377630756
>Also that guy was involved in ghost babel which is good too.
The plot in that game was just a rehash of MGS1, which in turn was a rehash of the MSX2 games.

>>377630817
That interview was from when MGS2 Substance was released. Fukushima is not dead either way.
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When will you admit you're wrong? I have a feeling when DS comes out and has absolutely fucking nothing to do with MGS or SH you'll just hand wave it and add another layer to the ruse.

I'm a huge ZoE fan, I had to let it go even though it hurt. It's time you let it go too, at least you got a demo of SH and half f MGSV, I got fucking NOTHING.
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>>377630991
more like you just can't respond to them

hey if you can't back up every single one of your ideas that's fine, you can backup a lot so just relax man

we understand, no theory is perfect
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>>377631148
>implying that won't just be another part of ruse
After Death Stranding gets released, Caramel will say the E3 after the release Kojima will release a patch for the game that unlocks its true ending that turns it into Silent Hills.
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>>377630991
what's your opinion on how MGSV wasn't effectively written to communicate a ruse?
obviously it has some elements from 1984 and everything, but the idea of doublethink, propaganda and brainwashing isn't effectively communicated. Take Huey for instance, it seems like the game is trying to communicate that we might hate him for no reason, but the way the game is written doesn't really support it at all. Moreover the game doesn't really have an atmosphere of truths that are on the tip of everyone's tongues but are being suppressed like Ground Zeroes had. The game just comes across as flat, clumsy and stupid

things like "there are no facts, there are only interpretations" seem to allude to the existence of no kind of truth instead of a truth that's being hidden
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>>377631041
all I want this e3 is MOdyssey, Splat2 that's pretty much it, maybe more future 3ds games or new ps4 IP we'll see
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Unedited writings of Kojima according to Caramel
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>>377631374
>Ground Zeroes
Atleast ground zeroes had one good map. Shame they tried to jew us on it though.
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Caramel is going to own this board when E3 arrives.
I'm almost jealous I didn't make a name/trip myself.
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>>377631607
Like the Gohanfag owned /a/ when Gohan saved the day during the Goku Black arc?
Oh wait, that didn't happen.
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>>377630928

Are you almost me? I've put in roughly 190 hours in the game as well, but I can't say that it fully lived up to what I was expecting.

As for the RuseCruise, I think Death Stranding might be Silent Hills. Those two PythonSelkan videos are intriguing and well presented, even though the word "coincidence?" is repeated too much. The weirdest thing is that fucking "J". Is it just an easter egg?
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Man i love being right
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>>377631607
Nah, fag.
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>>377631396
>Kojima is an agent of the dark gods
BURN HIM
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>>377628227
>>377629479

Haha ya anons
Hey I'd love to preorder Survive mind posting a link to where I can do so??????????
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>>377631826
http://www.game.co.uk/en/m/games/metal-gear-survive/

Here you go my man
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>>377631826
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/PC-Video-Games/Konami-Metal-Gear-Survive-PS4/B01L6SPBI0
http://www.game.co.uk/en/m/games/metal-gear-survive/
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>>377631746
you don't get it anon

it's all part of the ruse

because reasons
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All these fucking conspiracy kojima/konami threads popping up on /v/. Always reminding me that mgs v story was total shit.

Just accept it and it will become much easier conspiracy-kun
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>>377632071
Yes, it was foretold in metal gear acid
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>>377616007
The story of us getting fucked over by Jews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfxNQ7Tfuus

>Kojima wants to make films but he's not talented
>Goes into gaming and eventually makes MGS

>Hayter gets hired to voice Snake
>Becomes massive fanboy with extensive knowledge and appreciation for the series since he voiced every cutscene, every codec call, every grunt, every co-ops communications, and he even re-voiced MGS1 while slashing his pay to have more of the original cast return

>Konami wants to make an MGS movie and won't let Kojima direct it

>Hayter, screenwriter, hears about this and writes an entire script for the game.
>Plans to hire Hugh Jackman, a friend, to be Snake and to funnel his knowledge of the character into him

>Due to Hayter wanting to use a specific director, Konami picks Avi Arad, a heartless Jew, to make the movie instead
>They don't even give Hayter, massive fanboy and screenwriter, a chance

>Arad meets Kojima and toys with his naive aspirations by no doubt offering to introduce him to other directors like Del Toro
>Convinces him to fire Hayter the iconic voice
>Suggests to replace him with Kiefer Sutherland, a friend of his

>Kiefer is then instructed to feign interest and pretend actors give a fuck about video games in an attempt to get Hollywood's Jewish foot into the gaming industry
>Does a shit tier job voicing for the game

The reason we don't play as Snake is because he is a chatty bastard that has thousands of lines of dialogue and Kiefer would charge millions for that because recording would take months.

The series wasn't concluded because Kojima had to downgrade the story for that.

Del Toro also distracted Kojima with Silent Hills, taking his attention away from MGSV further resulting in our unfinished game.

Kojima is fired by Konami for fucking MGSV up, Silent Hills is cancelled.

MAGNUM OPUS.

People will defend this.
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>>377631374
When it comes to Huey I never got the impression we were supposed to hate him. Whether or not he was guilty was supposed to be a mystery, we were supposed to be unsure about him.

The game has a few inconsistencies though. Timecodes of Venom / Ocelot leaving Cyprus contradict Ocelot / Big Boss at the motorcycle, Ishamel has two functioning eyes, Ishamel teleports around the hospital in nonsensical ways, the so-called "truth tapes" don't really make any sense at all, Venom hallucinates events and audio tapes, why would you trust the Truth tapes, he already incorrectly recalled the hospital sequence, why would you trust the so-called "truth" version?
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>>377631374
bump, I'd genuinely like an answer to this because I'm curious

why have a game that's so clumsily written instead of having a game that seems to suggest there's more to the story than we're seeing, which would spur people onto believing in the ruse cruise? why have shit like vocal cord parasites or quiet or skull face or code talker be so half-baked on purpose? wouldn't it be better to have a game that's good but there isn't anywhere near enough of it?
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>>377628227
>>377631826
>>377631746
pre orders are entirely inconsequential
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This thread is sad.
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>>377632396
Cant take money for a product when its not the product they are selling.
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>>377632237
You don't make history that way, anon.
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>>377632475
Kojima is hack.

Post the next truth
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>>377632557
Caramel is insane.
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>>377632637
Now this i believe
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>>377632217
>When it comes to Huey I never got the impression we were supposed to hate him. Whether or not he was guilty was supposed to be a mystery, we were supposed to be unsure about him.
he's wearing Kojima's glasses and there's a Two Minutes Hate directed at him, my dude. He's also completely greasy and untrustworthy and obnoxious and he refuses to take fault for anything. It's like there's supposed to be some kind of commentary there but it's incomprehensible. Kojima is being put on trial by the fans who have some evidence against him, but Kojima keeps making excuses that don't add up. What?
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>>377632479
But they didn't take any money, they were refunded. You understand pre-orders aren't a permanent irreversible contract, right? You understand you can cancel them.
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>>377620336
Could someone tell me what the 794 thing means
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>>377632847
Nothing.
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>>377632637
>>377632679
Caramel is Kojima

Hence proved
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>>377632847
coordinates for Kojima's anus
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>>377632789
Nope. I can pre order this game right now. And they will take my money.

Its a binding deal for a product.
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How apt
https://youtu.be/JpQ_2yPUmrE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Ie40ZxBOQ
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>>377632847
It indicates the helicopter never crashed. Big Boss has cuts from the Paz explosion and if you see >>377621046 you can even see half of his face is burned from the explosion. It is also dawn (a few hours after GZ).

So Big Boss has wounds from the Paz explosion, yet the helicopter is still functioning while it's a few hours after GZ took place? Conclusion: the helicopter never crashed. So if it never crashed, how did Big Boss end up in the coma? He returned to Camp Omega (as Kojima said we would) and something happened. The revelation there will be one of the following:
a) TPP is a coma nightmare
b) TPP is VR simulation
c) Zero captured him and fucked with his brain to induce schizophrenia (Venom Snake and Big Boss are the same person)
The revelation will then lead into MGS5.
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>>377633000
Don't only retailers only charge your card when they ship the game?
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>>377632637
Woah there anon let's not get crazy
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>>377633000
And then you can cancel it. That's how pre-orders work, kiddo.
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>>377633159
No they take the money. Konami isnt acting as a bank here, they are just taking the cash.
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>>377633159
online*
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>>377633217
So konami is a bank now? Doubt it.
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>>377633132
His face isn't burned.
In either picture.
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>>377632193
amongst all the crazy bullshit in this thread, I feel like this is one of the only posts that is most likely grounded in actual truth. It's pretty obvious kojima wants to be a celebrity really badly and is willing to shit on people who have cared about his games.

he shit on pretty much all of his localizers despite the fact that mgs 1 and 2 had tons of garbage taken out of the script to make it flow more naturally.
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>>377633132
do you think there could be some other explanation for why there might be an out of place scene like this, or does this basically confirm that the helicopter didn't crash and we're going to get another game to contextualize this?
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>>377633421
This shot appears in the Not Your Kind of People trailer, 2013 red band trailer and during the GZ recap after rescuing Miller in TPP. The shot in the recap is Venom briefly remembering a fragment of the truth (they returned to Camp Omega).

>>377633343
Below his eye patch you fucking mong.

>>377621046
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>>377632479
Yes, yes they can.
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>>377633507
No. No they cant.
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>>377633501
>This shot appears in the Not Your Kind of People trailer, 2013 red band trailer and during the GZ recap after rescuing Miller in TPP. The shot in the recap is Venom briefly remembering a fragment of the truth (they returned to Camp Omega).
I know, but you didn't answer what I was asking you

could this be explained in any other way, or does it prove there's another MGS game coming?
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>>377625271
Revisionism is thinking you were right because 10% of a crackpot theory was true. The 10% we all knew about desu
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>>377632479
Yes.
Yes they can.
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>>377633680
Nope. Read some advertising laws my man.
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What kind of stock holders would ok something like this?
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>>377632479
>>377633548
>>377633712
Yes.
Yes! They can!
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>>377633638
>could this be explained in any other way, or does it prove there's another MGS game coming?
How about you find a fucking way to explain it if you're trying to challenge it.

Big Boss, has his face fucked up (both burned and cut) from the Paz explosion while in the same helicopter, in his same GZ suit, during DAWN, while MSF's destruction took place at night.

The Paz explosion is what caused the helicopter to "crash". You're seeing Big Boss in the same helicopter, functioning with his face fucked up. There is no other explanation.

>>377633771
Read thread. Been explained many times. The ruse is much simpler than your little kid brain thinks. Game announced, cancelled, oh it's back on the menu. Then MGS5 get's announced. JESUS SO COMPILCATED BY BRAIN IS GONNA FUCKING EXPLDOE. Autist.
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>>377633856
You dont get to call people autists.
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>>377633261
are you retarded?
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>>377633501
I doubt you've ever seen burned skin if you think that looks burned.
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All of /v/ is laughing at this dude
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>>377634052
more like a combination of pity and indigestion
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>>377633856
>How about you find a fucking way to explain it if you're trying to challenge it.
I can't explain it because none of us have intimate information about MGSV's development. I have no idea why that scene is the way it is and I doubt I'll ever find out
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>>377633261
that's not how pre-order work though. Your local retailer is the one that functions like a bank, not the publisher. There was even that anon that used GameStop as his bank.

I'm not supporting this retarded theory in any way btw.
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>>377616007
source?
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>>377634052
You arent all v.
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>>377633856
So you think Skull Face planted a bomb that wouldn't harm the helicopter in any way, and only served the purpose of disfiguring BB?
What is Skull Face, a magician?
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>>377634247
Actually i am
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>>377633981
That is the Fox Engine's depiction of burned skin. Either that or a witch turned his face into stone and cracked. Dumb fuck.
>>377634135
>I have no idea why that scene is the way it is and I doubt I'll ever find out
Well we'll find out the first day of E3 or before.

>>377634243 see >>377629627

>>377634250
How can one person be so stupid. He intended for the bomb to kill Big Boss but Paz sacrificed herself. If she was still in the helicopter when the bomb went off there would be no survivors. Did you even play the fucking game?
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>>377634262
gotta love Nu/v/.

Sick come back btw. Kek
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>>377634262
Holy shit metal gear solid /V/
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>>377633638
it's not far fetched to think he was just messing with the time of day in the engine because it looked more cinematic. I don't know why we're ruling that out and instantly jumping to it being some de facto clue that it's a coma, vr, or ptsd
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>>377633132
Explain how Big Boss would dream about Skull Face and XOF if he never knew they existed
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>>377634384
>Well we'll find out the first day of E3 or before.

okay, but what if there's something that we don't know about which explains why that scene is the way it is?
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>>377633981
Best quality Fox Engine can deliver
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>>377634478
He also thought let's make Big Boss look like he's been injured by the Paz explosion, yeah, that'll be more cinematic. Retard.

>>377634519
I just told you it'll be revealed first day of E3 or before moron.

>>377634529
Nice.
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>>377634512
bananamachines

or something
>>
Kojima is a hack
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>>377634478
Shh anon stop making sense
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>>377634610
Best post so far
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>>377633856
>Read thread. Been explained many times. The ruse is much simpler than your little kid brain thinks. Game announced, cancelled, oh it's back on the menu. Then MGS5 get's announced. JESUS SO COMPILCATED BY BRAIN IS GONNA FUCKING EXPLDOE. Autist.
Motherfucker, you are the one implying Kojima got a fake doctor to announce to he world he was doing a fake operation on a real crippled kid (who apparently is in on it), while getting him on TedX, which isn't cheap despite not being real Ted.

Do you know what he fuck you are implying???
How many careers and lives would be ruined if this one piece of you retarded dellusion was true?
Hell, he doctor could have just been an coincidance, but NO, you had to add him to your little doted white board.
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>>377623439
That's a tripfag, you newfag.
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>>377634574
>I just told you it'll be revealed first day of E3 or before moron.

I know you think that, but I'm asking you what if you only think that because you're able to piece together the limited amount of information we have about MGSV's development into what seems like a clear picture of a ruse, but in reality there's behind the scenes information which explains what needs to be explained and it isn't because there's a big ruse reveal about to happen?
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>>377634574
>He also thought let's make Big Boss look like he's been injured by the Paz explosion, yeah, that'll be more cinematic. Retard.

he also put snake on the motorcycle with horns on his head and the venom eye patch, what's your point? it's very obvious he's not above swapping out models for the sake of the trailer
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>>377634512
I'm waiting for your far fetched answer, Caramel.
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>this thread
What the FUCK is wrong with you people
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>>377634694
>How many careers and lives would be ruined if this one piece of you retarded dellusion was true?
None would be ruined.

>>377634835
You cant even form coherent sentences, no wonder you cant understand the ruse.

>>377634869
Well yes, Venom already remembered the events of the hospital incorrectly, why would you trust the so-called "truth" version.
>>
>>377616007
Gameplay is on point, his games are fun to play, but his sloppy writing and story exposition is absolute dog shit.
>>
>>377634574
Will you honestly kill yourself after E3 when you get blown the fuck out?
I can't even imagine the embarrassment you're going to feel.
And on an anonymous image board, of all things.
>>
>>377616847
Metallica and Dave Mustard Stain
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>>377634958
MGS fans are battered housewives
>>
So what happens if Death Stranding is actually a new IP
>>
>>377634916
I'm more in favor of VR simulation.
>>
>>377634967
>You cant even form coherent sentences, no wonder you cant understand the ruse.
I understand it, I just don't believe it

now can you please answer my question? what makes you so sure you have a clear enough picture of what's going on to be positive the biggest media ruse in history is about to take place? don't you think it's more likely there's information that you don't have access to which explains some of this stuff?
>>
Im embarrassed to call myself an mgs fan now. Fuck you idiots. Im done.
>>
>>377635276 see >>377629627

Mountains of evidence.
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>>377635361
>it's a conspiracy theorist can't distinguish between conjecture and fact episode
>>
>>377634916
>>377635274
I think it's c)
It's so much easier to compass b) in it too
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>>377634967
>None would be ruined
Are you implying anyone would take his doctor seriously after he got articles on mainstream science magazines about his fucking operation just to then say "Sorry guys, this was just a ruse to promote a video game, bye."
The magazine editors would be fired, the hospital that agreed hold the operation would be embarrased and a big question mark would be put in all involved.

For fuck sakes dude, get a clue.
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>>377635503
The doctor is going into retirement. No one takes the doctor seriously, everyone thinks he's an idiot for attempting the transplant.
>>
>>377635274
Of course, because the alternative makes no fucking sense and you know it, right? Then explain to me what's the point in putting Big Boss through this pitch perfect VR Simulation. And I'm totally disregarding the fact that, even circa MGS2, VR aesthetic was mostly blocks and whatnot, designed for specific mission objectives, not the fucking Matrix.
>>
>>377635361
I know there's evidence which can be interpreted as pointing to a ruse, caramel. I'm not denying that. I'm asking you why you seem to think you can interpret the evidence in a straightforward way with the belief that there's no other factors which could de-legitimize the idea of a ruse
>>
caramel let me ask you a question: what do you think the difference is between you and people who don't believe in the ruse?

do you think they're not looking at the evidence, or they're just too dumb to make sense of it, or what? why do you think people are resisting the idea so hard when it would actually be awesome if it came to life?
>>
DIEEEEEEEEEE CAATAMAL

MGS IS OVER AND SO IS KOJIMA.

MARK MY WORDS AFTER THE FAILURE OF DS THE MOVIE "GAME'
NO ONE WILL PAY ATTENTIOM TO KOJIMA
>>
>>377635620
I already explained Raiden went through 1:1 simulations of the tanker and Shadow Moses. Not to mention the Patriots suppressing technology is an asspull used frequently, it would make sense for them to have an advanced version of it in 1984.

When Big Boss returned to Camp Omega something probably happened that fucked him. Sergio said VR will be used to teach his patient how to walk after surgery and that VR can be used to treat phantom pain. This answer is right in front of you.

>>377635675
Because the evidence could not exist if there was not a ruse.
>>
>>377635858
HE'LL BE FORCED TO MAKE APPEARANCES ON GAME "AWARD" SHOWS ANFD MAKE EVERYONE CRINGE WITH HIS BUUTBUDDY DORITOS PEP
fuCKONG CARMAEL YOU LOSER STOP SMAPMMING METAL GEAR THREADS WITH YOUR BULLSHIT GET HIM BANNED THER E IS NO RUSE NO CRUISE NO THING
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>>377635881
>Because the evidence could not exist if there was not a ruse.
give me your strongest piece of evidence and I'll give you three other possible explanations that don't conclude "there's a new MGS game coming, the REAL MGS5!"
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>>377636061
see
>>377635361
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>>377635881
>Raiden went through 1:1 simulations of the tanker and Shadow Moses
Nowhere is it mentioned the VR simulations used to train Raiden were completely lifelike.
>>
So where was frank yaeger during V?
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>>377636161
And the only thing said to contrary is by Snake who said "I doubt it accurately depicts what really happened" (to the tanker because the Patriots framed him as the perpetrator, so the VR would follow that narrative).

>>377636164
He'll likely be in 5.
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>>377636284
So peacewalker? No he wasnt in that
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>>377636104
alright, I'll just have my pick then since you don't want to focus on one example of your choice

"Not MGS5, but MGSV. My thought in it. V has come to"

it's called "MGSV" because it's thematically resonant and a departure in terms of presentation from the previous entries in the series. As the team has said, V stands for victory, vengeance, peace, etc. This is similar to how MG added "Solid" to the title because the game series was going 3D and polygons are "Solid" or whatever the autistic explanation was. Not only that, but Peace Walker was already considered MGS5 by Kojima and there can't be two of them
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>this thread
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>>377636284
Oh so the most logical thing to assume would be that the VR simulations were 1:1 when just a couple of years before they were filled with monocolored blocks.
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>this thread
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>>377636352
5 was demoted to a numbered entry in the series you shitposting troll.

>>377636463
Yes and to trick morons into thinking it's 5

>>377636525
I already explained this.
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>>377636284
Raiden says sneaking 60 and weapons 80 are indistinguishable from the real thing, and it looks like pic related

the point of Raiden is that he can't tell what's real and what isn't, he even says this outright towards the end of the game
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>>377633132
>a)TPP is a coma nightmare
Either he's up to his tricks again, or he disproved it back here

Since we're still wondering, I'm going to assume "it will come together" after we get rid of those nukes.

Congrats, Caramel.
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>>377636673
caramel can you give me your opinion on why you feel the truth tapes aren't coherent or conflict with what the truth is? Curious on your opinion and how you think it ties into the ruse, genuinely asking.
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>>377636673
>Yes and to trick morons into thinking it's 5
you said this evidence can't exist if there's no ruse, I explained the evidence in a way that doesn't adhere with the ruse conclusion, and you just say "you're dumb and being tricked"

come on, dude
>>
>>377636673
Bro
>>
>>377636673
>I already explained this.
So explained it again.
I mean, surely you have until E3 to lord your intelligence over others.
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>>377636868
Man if Kojima really consider a PSP game to be MGS5 I think I'm going pearl harbor on his ass
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>>377636721
You really think he played through Shadow Moses and the tanker through blocks like that?

>>377636835
You just don't get it. Stop posting.

>>377636768
When Zero visits Big Boss the doors are sliding electronic doors like Big Shell / Shadow Moses while the doors are actually wooden. You can also hear children laughing and cheering when the doors to the room open, a subtle detail which surely has more significance, not to mention there were no kids at the hospital.

MGS4 also establishes Zero and Big Boss as enemies after Big Boss departs from the Patriots. Their war climaxes with Big Boss taking over Foxhound and using Outer Heaven and Zanzibarland to stage a coup against Zero. Yet in TPP Zero is suddenly the long lost best grandfather he never had, saving him from the helicopter and nursing him back to health. Not to mention Zero specifically was the one who has Big Boss's corpse removed from Zanzibarland and put into the nanomachine coma. He also specifically asked Paramedic to revive Jaegar as the Ninja. Yet he was in his coma before the events of TPP, let alone MG1.

Whatever is really going on in TPP I think Zero is trying to manipulate Big Boss. When Big Boss remembers the truth and realizes what Zero did to him at Camp Omega it'll spark their war.

>>377636868
Bro
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>>377636525
Maybe is some kind of nightmare indused by Kid Mantis (Zero and the Patriots have a thing for using kids), dunno. It's MGS after all.
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