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How is the grind going? Currently leveling a 5* Eliweed myself
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>>377605768
do we have any idea what the next banner is going to be?
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>>377606416
People are guessing it's gonna be the bride banner but we don't really know for sure
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Should I 5* a +atk/-spd Eirika?
Even with that bane she'd get like 32 speed at level 40
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>>377606790
Her main function is serving as a buffbot so sure, but you could also wait for a better IV roll
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>>377605768
We already have a FE:H thread going
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>>377606907
Where?

Is it still possible to save edit without getting banned? All of my 5*'s have shit IV's
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>>377606416
please just let it be a Sacred Stones one. we still only have the twins for Magvel characters and I need my Lady Lel
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>>377606907
>Ctrl F "Faia Emburem"
>1 result
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>>377606907
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>>377607218
kys famalam
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Spend a lot of time grinding Soren to give him good skills only to find out my decked out Celica with Fury gives me a better score.
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>>377605768
No endgame.
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Is Harsh Command worth it to pass onto somebody else?
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>>377606790
Eirika is cute, so yes
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>>377608032
No
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>>377607814
Yeah, but their colors are different, so...
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>>377608404
and we have faggots like you everyday as well
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Should I level the OCs up to 40 before promoting them to 5*?
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>>377605768
Decided to make a multitask Olivia so I'm grinding up a 3* +Atk/-Res one I had. After I get her to 4* level 40 I'll promote and deck her out with SI right away.
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>>377608404
See also; Persona 5, Soulsborne threads, consolewars threads and FotM game threads. Go and complain about those as well if you care so much about recursive threads about a game on /v/. Or just outright report every thread for a game that also has a general on /vg/, making /v/ just ecelebs and consolewar bitching.
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>>377608032
There probably won't be many times you'll actually use it, considering you'll likely be straight up knocked out instead of debuffed.
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>>377608583
Just enough to save you from SP grinding later, so you could inherit as they're getting stronger
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>>377608695
Shut the fuck up
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>>377608495
Yes, Sorren ends up being more useful because he kills Reins, Ninos and Julias on enemy phase, but if he drags my score down, it won't matter. Celica can still kill them but only on player phase and it's not as safe
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>>377608583
If you want bonus SP to fill out their ABC skills then yeah you will since once you get to lv 40 at 5* the grind for SP becomes much more annoying. Enough of an annoyance for some people to prefer getting non-5* since they can then grind more SP easily.
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How do you do 11-5 on lunatic?

Feels like unless you've got a Klein to brave bow all those fucks its almost impossible to 6 turn that map.
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>>377608583
Of course there literally no reason not too
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>>377609350
Use a strong flier with something like drag back/reposition/draw back. Dancer support also helps but it's not required.
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>>377609416
There is when you finally get someone you wanna promote
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>tfw five star Titty Ninja totally shutting down magefags in the arena
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>>377609350
If you're not going for the keep all alive orb it isn't too bad but otherwise it can be quite rough. Mkv did do a video completing it with all free units staying alive at level 40 at 3* using Celica, Donnel, Olivia and another who I cannot remember so you may want to look that up if you're still struggling.
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>>377609649
foot mages are plebeian anyway
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>>377609610
Is a neutral FeCorrin worth 5*ing?
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>>377609649
>infantry mages
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>>377609858
No you want +spe that guy is retarded.
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>>377609787
I have somehow yet to encounter a Cav Meme and the danger of Babyhands boils down to the map you roll.
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>>377609610
I stopped promoting Xander and did my Alphonse for the bonus and long term use but yeah waifus over askrfus. Why qr on corrin tho
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>>377609756
I saw that vid, but really can't be bothered to train up Sophia.

I tried substitute Cecilia for a Nino and Sophia for Snacki (both arguably much better) but that fucked up the enmy movements and the ones at the back wouldn't move towards me.
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>>377609649
>tfw mine is -hp/+res and dies from everything
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>>377609787
>>377609878
>>>/mlp/
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Got titania 4* like finally a high res melee unit.
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>>377609756
>Celica

It's really not that hard.
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>>377609969
Because I had nothing else to give her, working on Swordbreaker
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Anyone had luck with Punished Lloyd yet? I feel like building him.
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>>377610172
I'm sure you thought that was funnier in your head and that's what counts
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>>377610228
I meant Cecilia, I keep getting the names mixed up which is admittedly pretty bad.

>>377609980
A dagger user may be an interesting choice for you as it'll soften the target and the def/res debuff will deal with the defensive tile bonuses. I used Jaffar with poison strike while testing out teams to see if I could do it and just managing to finish it in time on turn 6 (-7 Def/Res as well as a big chunk of indirect damage was pretty useful) . Note that the dagger user will do little damage because of the tiles though (unless it's Kagero) and you may need to move them out of the way afterwards using your dancer so as to allow your other units to finish them off.
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>>377610627
I'm right though, horse fucker
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>>377610857
Get a load of this peasent. He probably can't even afford a mount.
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>Xander
>+Speed -Hp Tharja
>+Atk -Res Marth
>Sharena
>Anna
>Ursula
>+Hp -Red Lon´qu
>-Def +Atk Abel

Who to upgrade? They all 4*
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>>377610172
Horses are manly bastards. Fuck off.
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>>377611036
That depends in large part as to what gaps you need filled in your 5* line up, if you want to make a meme Cav team or if you don't have suitable future bonus arena units. If you don't want to make a Cav team it's relatively pointless to up Xander/Ursula/Abel unless you really want a red with distant counter built into the weapon.
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>>377611036
>+HP -Res Lon'qu
Never, if it's not +Atk -anything but speed not worth it
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>>377611036
xander or ursula
use lonqu as vantage fodder for xander
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>>377610175
>Anna and Lloyd exist
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>>377605768
>Finish grinding Xander to 5* and 40
>Forever bench riding after this season
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>>377611551
Make a cav team
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>>377609350
LIGHT'S
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>>377611464
So Tharja is a nevermind too? I do need a god Red Mage, all I have is a -Atk Celica and if I don't get another one, I'll be doomed
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>>377610984
I bet you love to be mounted, homo

>>377611069
Is that what you say when you're jerking them off?
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>>377611501
>Anna
>surviving an attack
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>>377611976
>High Res
>High Speed (prevents doubling)
>inb4 bullshit simulator chart showing odds stacked against her
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>>377611036
>Xander
Great of you're going to put him on a cav team. He's shit on mixed teams.
>+Speed -Hp Tharja
Great unit, best boon.
>+Atk -Res Marth
Optimal Marth. Great if you actually need a red sword infantry.
>Sharena
I personally don't find the donut steels worth it, but many people disagree. Sharena is at least the nest of them. If you don't have a good 5* blue lance, then ok.
>Anna
See above.
>Ursula
She's great if you're going to give her Blarblade and put her on a cav team. She's shit without both of those.
>+Hp -Red Lon´qu
No.
>-Def +Atk Abel
Abel is a pre-SI meme. He's mediocre now. There aren't any lancer cavs worth using on a cav team right now. Wait for the Camus GHB.
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>>377611745
Not a brainlet, but the suggestion is appreciated
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>>377608404
Report the thread. It's the only way mods will do anything about it.
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>rolling Celica
>get tharja
+def -res

...eh, I'll take it.
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>>377611854
I use Tharja (+Spd - Res) so you can use her, but you gotta watch out for those red units with distant counter if you're going with the -HP
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>>377609649
>Ran into a few tier 17 ninjas
>Rolling Hector

Ninjas ain't shit
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>1 orb log in bonus

wew lad did they drop this game? they fucking slowed down a lot and they still won't do daily missions. there is literally nothing to do right now assuming you beat the GHB, which takes less than a day to do and lasts for a whole week. so boring.
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>>377612802
Whoa... Such skill...
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>>377613036
Are you a newfag? This has happened before
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>>377612367
>the fucking sword going through her whole sprite
Kek'd
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>>377613140
This is, what, the fourth time now, right?
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/mbgg/ here

Why do you guys like this game when you know very well it sucks ass? There's nothing appealing about this game. Are you in it just for the Fire Emblem IP?

Butt hurt not needed, Im curious
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>>377613140
nope just mad they won't give us something to do in these droughts
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>>377613209
Second, there have been days we didn't get orbs but it has been this long since they introduced the daily arena quests
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>>377613295
>Butt hurt not needed

Irony. :^)
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Should i trust a beginners guide on YT or is there a more common guide ?
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>>377613056
Right? Feels good to not waste a slot on a shitty colorless :^)
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>A normal deathless run isn't enough to even keep me in tier 17
I guess this is as far as I go for now. I could probably bump my score up by burning some swords and searching for slightly higher scoring matches instead of just taking the 680, but I don't want to get into doing that every week
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>>377613302
can't really blame the game, we all rush through new content to get our hands on the new shiny toy or more orbs, there's really no way to expect IS to keep pace with how fast the players burn through content.

Level up some units that aren't optimal, but that you like in tower or something.
Level up units you're thinking about 5*'ing to see if you like their playstyle.

Play arena for shits and giggles.
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>>377613576
Yeah, why a shitty colorless when you can use a shitty armored?
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>>377613723
Whales must die
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look at my gummy

>>377613295
Playing with our favorite characters is fun, and the gameplay IS entertaining, even if there's not a lot of content now.
By the way, does PaD get any love in /mbgg/? I was sad when /padg/ died.
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>>377613960
Someone's mad they didn't get him off focus
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>>377614142
I want to see her get fucked roughly but also lovingly
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>>377612358
Does Xander really need a full team or can he do well enough if paired with a single other cav?
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>>377614156
Not really
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WHY WONT DATAMINERS ACTUALLY DATA MINE SOMETHING LIKE THE BRIDE BANNER I NEED TO KNOW!!!
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>>377614308
>snacki
>When tiny hands and linde exist

You're quite kind to give away wins in arena
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>>377614215
>Rape the Sheep Build
Assault
Recover
Miracle
Resistance +3
Desperation 3
Savage Blow 3
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>>377614459
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>>377614215
Don't bully
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>>377613295
Mostly for me at least it's just that I love the FE IP
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>>377614459
*unzips Bartre*
nice try, kid
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>>377614336
They did actually but IS asked them very nicely to pretty please not leak it so they agreed not to.
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>>377613473
The wiki has a fine guide.
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>>377614575
Legit. Julia is probably the scariest green to go up against in the arena.
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>>377614663
That's okay, he doesn't fight for his friends, so the superior blue hair shows him no sympathy.

Lucina! She's cute! And deadly!!
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>>377613295
>sucks ass
What makes you say that?

Anyway, it's fun and it's FE. I might try FGO, but it looks not that fun.
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Carrot Lance is ___.
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>>377613036
Not making daily orbs a permanent thing was a mistake.
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>>377615036
bad
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>>377615036
>giving Carrot Lance to Gwendolin instead of Effie
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>>377615036
Delicious
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>>377615036
Wendy a shit
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>>377606521
The bride/wedding banner will likely replace the Celica banner at the start of June. Another banner focusing on the weapon triangle has been datamined, but we know nothing about it. People speculate it will have TriAdept and gem weapon units.

It kills me that the banner images can't be datamined anymore.
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>>377614490
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>>377614575
>Julia can tank hits from my tri adept red mage
She's the only green mage who has ever killed a run of mine, bitch is scary.
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Moonbow or bonfire for Michalis
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>>377615360
they can be mined, it's just that we don't know what the fuck kind of .lz type they're using so we can't do anything with those files
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>>377614893
>Have Ike

nah.
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>>377614575
Well that's what I have Xander for. Seeing Julias or Ninos isn't really scary anymore.
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>>377614893
Spring Camila with Gronblade and boosted by flyer buffs is far more scarier than Julia.
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>>377615321
Even if I didn't sacrifice my 5* Effie to the fires of SI, Gwen's higher bulk means that she can take better advantage of it. Effie just wants to deal as much damage as possible anyway, prefering her default or Brave.

>>377615337
Rude. Wendy a cute.
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>>377615985
>Buffs
>Defense
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>>377614893
Definitely. My Nino has G Tomebreaker just for her and even then she usually only lives with like ~5 HP.
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>>377615985
0/10
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I'm debating giving my Nino TA 3 just to deal with Thundercock and co. Eirika has Swordbreaker and Effie is Effie, so I don't really ever fight reds with Nino anyway, and Fury isn't terribly important with the quad buffs her waifu gives her.
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>>377616468
Nah. Nino survives Reinhardt just fine.
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>>377616660
>Just fine
>1HP
Any less HP or Res on Nino or any more Atk on Rein would leave her dead, that's not really just fine. It depends on the builds
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>No Perma death in the game
For what purpose? In b4 people say it's for the casuals. Implementing this feature would not only have people make more strategic decisions, it will also give them the option of getting that character that died in the future with some bullshit clone/summon/revive system

That and Nintendo would make a shit ton of money. Why are they so stupid
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>>377616204
What?
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>>377616660
>never had any trouble with Reinhardts because Nino would deal with them pretty easily
>fight a cavalry team
>park Nino in Reinhardt's range like usual
>he fucking murders her
Cavalry buffs are insane.
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>>377615626
Which is as good as saying it hasn't been mined at all.
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>>377616660
Mine is -Res, and no regular Nino survives a Death Blow variant with horse buffs. TA solves the issue and lets me retain the power of Gronnblade and still have Julia's Thundercock slaying ability. Combined with G-tomebreaker, I get a pretty wide range of kills, while leaving reds to my teammates.
I think I'll try it out, I have an extra Roy and excess SP on my Nino.
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>>377616918
Because the game can come up with really unfair bullshit? If you have been really unlucky with summons you won't get anything done ever
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>tfw Awakening babby and want to promote all of them

Who should I do next, F!Robin or Nowi?
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>>377616918
iirc some law in Japan about since the players are paying real money they can't implement something that would make them lose what they get out of that money. Plus that's a shitty, extortive business tactic. Imagine if you bought a game, died once and then had to rebuy the game.

However there is something supposedly coming soon where you have a Permadeath-like gauntlet and any characters that die can't be used for that gauntlet
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>>377616918
Not sure but I think something like that is illegal in a few places since its a gacha game
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>>377617169
>Because the game can come up with really unfair bullshit?
That's the lamest excuse ever. There isn't a reason why permandeath of units shouldn't have been a thing in the game

In fact, this would hook more people in for a longer period.
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>>377617194
Nowi
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>>377617104
>team is usually high enough in score to avoid cav memes
>have to put that shitter Alfonse on because bonus units
>suddenly 3 cav teams in a row
>boosted reinfuck sends Hector to the shadow realm
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>>377617284
Are you a fucking idiot? If people were permanently losing their precious characters, it would have the complete OPPOSITE effect
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>>377617272
>>377617241
Ok, NOW this makes sense
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>>377616918
Please never go into business
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>>377617163
>>377616468
Removing Fury would lower Nino's BST in Arena, unfortunately.
>tfw my waifu has sub-150 BST even fully SI'd
BST based scoring was a mistake.
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>>377617382
>have one main character as locked to being killed ever
>everyone else is killable
>lose units
>be motivated to use main character to get the lost units again
Wow that was hard. Other anons that mentioned the law preventing that in japan makes more sense
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>>377617126
being inaccurate is obviously not as good
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Are Escape Route and Spur Def worth it to pass onto somebody else, if so, who?
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>>377617503
the new scoring system ignores skills for BST. Only a unit's base BST matters.
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>>377617503
non-BST scoring only makes Cav/Flier memes permanently the best Offense teams, and makes armor teams useless.

>wah my waifu has a shit bst

sucks, use a different unit if you want to min max, nobody's forcing you to use a unit.
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>>377617530
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>>377615985
I got my shit pushed in by this set up last week, had lote's shield on her, not that I even had any bow or falchion users with me.
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>>377617652
I'm pretty sure that's bullshit
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>>377617284
>>377616918
>>377617272
>>377617241
>>377617284
>>377617382
>>377617483
As others mentioned, a law prevents that. Now if you place a fatigue like system where it simulates the character being injured and being unusable for X amount of days; that would be legal. Providing ways to accelerate the fatigue recovery for said character by using up healing items that are purchasable with game currency would truly hook people

So yes there's a way to implement a pseudo death system that simulates temporary perma death. But rendering a character ultimately useless isn't
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>>377617889
See that reminds me of various JMMORPG's "upgrade mechanics" where you could buy an item with real money that prevents or reduces the chance of degrading or losing an item upon a failed upgrade. I lost so much money to that shit.
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>>377617827
hey, maybe they lied about it.
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>>377611854
I have a -Atk Celica with LnD3. Her tome and neutral speed prevent her from being irredeemable.
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>>377614575
>used a shit ton of orbs to try and get julia on banner
>half the time there wasn't even a green orb for summoning
>still no good mages, thundercock, or thundercock counter.

I have 3 5* mages; Soren(-atk,+def), Mrobin (-spd, +def), and Sanacki (+def, -spd).
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>>377617889
>>377618018
That's pretty smart, I wonder how many psychologists these mobile companies have to convince people like this
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>>377617652
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure that was never outright stated, and skills like Fury still affect a unit's Rating. It's anecdotal, but I also noticed I got matched with higher point teams after giving my unit Fury 3.
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>>377616818
She's not dead, counter kills one of the most prevelant units in the arena, and then has under 75% HP to start ORKOing anyone else. You must be pretty bad at this dumbed-down mobile game to not see this.
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>>377614142
I was thinking of hone speed for my sheep since i don't think I have any hone attacks. Although I'm not sure what a skill to give her. Nothing really seems good enough for her.
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>>377618542
Are you dumb? I was saying that works for your Nino, but not everyone has your exact Nino
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>>377611976
Anna can tank hits pretty well though.
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>>377618714
>Running the wrong nature
>On a unit commonly acquired at 3*
No, anon. Are (You) dumb?
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>>377617827
>>377618437
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>>377618908
I don't even use Nino, or even give a fuck about her. But if you're going to call a result "just fine" and pretend like it can be applied generally, you better have more slack than 1 HP
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>>377617616
spur def is worth having if you mix it up with rally def or another units fortify def.
>50+ def lukas
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>>377614893
Why? She dies to any physical attack easy and she can't 1 round you with that speed
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Lyn focus when?
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>>377605768
Is Heroes a legit good competitive strategy game or is just a fun time-killer? I'm looking for something to get into that I can take semi-seriously but I don't wanna get invested in another rng fiesta like hearthstone.
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>>377619247
Time killer, it's a gacha game for the most part, minimal strategy involved.
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>>377617889

Isn't Skill Inheritance literally treated as "death"ing your character?

How can they get away with this.
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>>377619458
Because you choose to do it and you actually gain something from it
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>>377619079
>I don't even use Nino
Thanks for proving my point.

Had you used her, you'd understand 1HP is "just fine". Fury Desperation is her go to build. She's commonly at 1HP by the end of a battle. Still not dead, but the enemy team is. L2P
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>>377605768
I am trying to grind my fliers and armor troops so that I can actually complete the top stratum with them 15 times each and grab those orbs this time unlike the last time.

The grind is super boring because I don't care about any of the characters.
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>>377617163
hp seal and +2 res from fortify seal buffbot lets -res nino survive max attack reinhardt
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>>377619458
Not really, you still get benefits from those you inherit from, therefore the money isn't "wasted" like a permadeath would. That's why send home doesn't break any laws either, since you gain feathers you can use for other units.
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>>377619576
Its 1 orb this time, and you should've used the EXP event to raise up your meme teams. Fliers is extremely easy to level, but for all I know, you're running garbage like 3 Ests and a Florina. Armor is boring, so I can relate.

I suppose the nicest thing I could say is that the best way to level is with a dedicated leveling team. Buffer, Dancer, Azama/Healer. Only let the leveling unit take on fights they can handily get away with, and just zap a unit they're gonna stand a chance against. Never risk trying to get that 1 extra unit if its already proving to be a hassle.

I.e. Let them take on the color theyre strong against and kill the others with your level 40s.
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>>377619547
I know she can do her job at 1 HP

Your post was
>Nino survives Reinhardt just fine

Your Nino survives that certain Reinhardt just fine. Not every Nino. Perhaps not every Reinhardt. You could have said
>x build Nino survives x build Reinhardt just fine
And that would have been accurate. But since you went and acted like your situation applies to everybody, you're wrong
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>>377616660
My +ATK Reinhardt with Death Blow and the +ATK Seal defeats Ninos in one attack.
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>>377619678
Not even needed. You're running a blade mage. Why the hell wouldn't you have a Fort Res buff? lmao.
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Can't wait for Sety to be worse than Arthur because Thunder memes
Best Axe, and armour in general: Chad Thunderaxe
Best Sword: Sado Thundasordo
Best Breath: Lightning Lass
Best Horse Tome (maybe even Blue Tome in general): Thunderhands
Can't wait for Reptor and Ishtar.
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>>377620073
+2 alone doesnt let -res nino survive and people use that
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>>377617682
You're pretty much forced to minmax to stay in any higher tier.
>rank 6020 in tier 17 with a day left
>being under rank 6315 sends me back to tier 16
I'm not going to make it, am I?

>>377619678
Doesn't work if the Reinhardt has the Attack +1 seal, unfortunately (or if he's being spurred) but any non -Res Nino would live with that setup.
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>>377620002
She didn't die.
She got the kill on the counter kill, as intended.
Goes on to kill everything thanks to Desperation.

These aren't "X" builds. They're Tier 15-17 standards. Just stop. Theres nothing left to discuss. You're just oozing autism at this point.

You could either learn from a player who runs a Nino team and a super cav mage team at Tier 17 or you can keep defending poorly made Ninos against well made Reins.
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What else should I throw on her?
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>>377620073
Because then you wouldn't be able to run Hone Speed, dumbass.
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>>377620347
if you're going for the quadsuna build you already know what B skills are useful.
Other than that it's largely up to you.
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>>377620263
>I only run Fort 1 skills for my blade mage
We're going beyond F2P here.
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>>377613295
recommend me some mobilde games fag
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>>377620429
>what is the new Sacred Seal
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>>377614308
TCG american release fucking when?
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>>377620347
Luna > Moonbow
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>>377620223
>Tiltyu, Arthur and Tinny being good

I want to believe.
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>>377620347
>Quadsuna
>On a non +speed Setsuna
You made your bed
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>>377620347
>quadsuna build
>not +Spd
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quadsuna is trash no matter what
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>>377620706
>>377620749
Not him, but I plan to +10 her eventually anyway, so I just went ahead with it. I'll fix her when I roll a +Spd one.
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>>377620974
>I plan on +10 her
good luck with that, unless you're a saudi arabian oil prince with an infinite supply of expendable money.
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>>377620974
You need Desperation for her build, also Threaten Spd 3 to ensure the quad attacks
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>>377620974
>bowbreaker
>breath of life
To what end?
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>>377620801
Quadsuna is a meme, Quad Hana is for true patricians.
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Would putting a Brave Bow+ on a +Spd / -Def Vantage Tacomeme be a good idea? Or is it just a meme?
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>>377620974
>Bowbreaker
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>377621249
She comes with it dummy
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>>377621212
I hope you have a tank with reciprocal aid to get her to desperation levels
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>People wasting an insane amount of feathers to make a unit viable
>Use one with the wrong IVs
>Put the wrong skills

Why?
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>>377620532
Why don't you actually play this game or use a calculator to back up what you're saying? Pick related. Now shut up.

>>377620398
Again, you obviously have proven you don't run a blade mage, nor know how to plan a team around one. At best, you have an Ephraim like me, that provides her with 3Atk, 4Spd, 4Def, and 2Res with the other 2 team mates also providing C buffs as well, if needed. At worst, its not hard to run a Sharena, which you're given for free. Talk from experience, not your ass.
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>>377621212
>>377621249
I've never rolled a Shanna
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>>377620706
>>377620749
She's a +Att -Res, so I thought it wasnt to awful. Is it honestly really that bad?
Wouldn't a +Spd version just give her an even 40/40?
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>>377621350
I don't because I don't use her in arena. I made the build because it's fun seeing her x4 stuff but in terms of usefulness it doesn't even come close to -blade or cav memes.
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>>377621247
Taco isn't fast enough for Brave.
Just slap Fury on him and call it a day.
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>>377621651
No. +Atk is completely fine, just not optimal 100% can be. As long as you're doing what you can with Hone Speed on your team, and Desperation and LnD on her, you're gonna destroy almost everything that doesn't hard counter physical/neutrals.
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>>377621651
+ATK isn't that bad, but +SPD gives her much more of a chance to double other units.
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>>377621448
Yes, because you'll always be in a good position for a third teammate to provide Nino with a +4 Res buff. You have to work on the assumption you'll only have access to whatever buffs Eirika/Ephraim alone can provide you fucking idiot.
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>>377621651
40 attack is extremely low for a 5 star unit, you want her to double as much as possible
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>>377621448
>working on the assumption you'll always have two team members sucking Nino's dick
Post disregarded.
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>>377621671

>it doesn't even come close to -blade or cav memes.
It's 100% comparable to blade mages. Quad units are the only thing that do. Unless we're talking about Ursula, then Quads are very much just as good as -Blade.

The only things worth running after these two is Distant Counter melees like Ryoma, Ike, and Hector. And its mainly because they'll net you higher score while still being damned good.
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What skills should I give my Robin. Had him since he was a three star
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>>377621859
>>377622069
>Assmad faggots who have been 100% BTFO and can't comprehend why they still can't break past Tier 14.

I tried to teach you.
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>>377622143
Tri Adept 3 is a necessity.
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>>377620347
Nothing. She sucks. Enjoy your 0x4 meme machine.
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Kill Navarre for Threaten Speed 3? I can't really see any other use for him.
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>>377622143
Blarraven, TA3, Swordmurderr3, Bonfire
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Post Nowis
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377622276
(You)
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>>377622432
>tfw mine is -Spd

Still worth feathering to 5* or not?
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>>377605768
Post more Nigger Emblem
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>>377622529
newfag detected
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>>377622143
Standard setup is Raven tome, Tri Adept, and Quick Repoiste.
Raven is his default tome so less investment, but also gives him strength against 2 colors. He's generally not gonna stand a chance against Greens, thus the TA. This also makes him that much stronger against Neutrals for the sake of being useless against Green. QR is optional, but it helps to net kills against ranged attackers hes tanking. It can be swapped for what you think works better like B Tomebreaker. His special is fine as Bonfire.
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>>377622139
Do you have a Quadsuna? If so, have you ever tried killing a Hector, Zephiel, Xander, Effie or Nowi with her? It's not going to happen.
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>>377622143
I have tri adept 3 and bowbreaker the rest is his vanilla setup. Bowbreaker was leftover from when SI had just started and I thought taco would be better, so I don't recommend it. vantage, QR, lance breaker or blue tome breaker for B.
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>>377622540
Yes if you put swordbreaker on her or something.
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>>377622139
>quad is comparable to blade mages
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>>377621851
>>377621858
>>377621927
Thanks for the advice. Just having a lil reassurance that I didnt just waste 22k feathers for nothing is nice.
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>>377622529
meant for >>377622276
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>>377622276
I'm tier 15 and Nino is a joke.
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>>377622705
How many units can even quad meme decently? Seems like you need to hit at least 39 speed before Life and Death. I only see people discuss Setsuna and Hana for that.
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377622986
>pretending to be me
No. You're just not worthy of a (You).
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>>377623054
meant for >>377622986
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>>377622143
Standard Robin set is Tri Adept, Riposte, and whatever you want for the rest.
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>>377623030
The quad meme is effectively dead when defense tiles came out.
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>>377622432
K
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>>377623030
Apparently a properly built Olwen is better than her brother thanks to quads. Cordelia can also do it, but it's probably only a good idea on a flier meme team since other lancers are better even without quads.
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>>377605768
What are good a and b skills for Ephraim?
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>>377623203
That's a lot of Nowis!
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>less than 1000 spots away from not advancing to tier 18

I dropped 500 spots overnight. Where did you fuckers come from?
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>>377622705
He's not entirely wrong. It's why Thundercock and his sister are so scary on horse teams.
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>>377623256
I'm not surprised to see that someone who thinks olwen might be better than reinhardt also thinks lancer"s" are better than cordelia when it's really just effie
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>>377623278
He's a bit slow, right? Swordbreaker might be a good idea, especially if he's partnering with a red or green blade mage.
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>>377623256
She's alright. Mine is not even optimal. She doesn't kill other mages as hard as Thunderdick though
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>>377623338
>40 points away from deranking
I'm not going to make it
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>>377623365
I'm just repeating what I've heard others say about Olwen.
Ephraim and Azura are both more valuable as lance users than Cordelia, even if they fall behind in damage.
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>>377623365
Optimal Olwen is better than Optimal Thundercock, though.
And Cordelia is overrated, like all lances that aren't Butchered Localization Knight, Friendzone-Tan and maybe the Sister Fucker.
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>>377617889
> a fatigue like system where it simulates the character being injured and being unusable for X amount of days
> accelerate the fatigue recovery for said character by using up healing items that are purchasable with game currency
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Does hone cavalry stack with itself? Can I put 3 gunthers around reinhart and unleash ultimate destruction?
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>>377623338

it's normal for there to be one last rush at the end of the season, and all of the high point total people are concentrated in T17. Hell I might even drop to 16, I've been super unlucky with point totals. 3 runs and the best I've done is 4790, last few weeks I've been 4810-4820.

There's not much different between teams except Roy instead of Ike, he only has a level 1 special instead of Luna but otherwise equal SI. Also Roy sucks ass and fighting green mages without a distant counter red is rough.

I'm not overly concerned either way, I can't compete with whales as I have no merged units. And the ranks will fill out over time. Not gonna burn tons of swords over a paltry amount of feathers.
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>>377622432
>tfw she's absolutely adorable but has awful IVs
I can't decide between trying to salvage her with TA+QR or just letting Fae eat her for lightning breath
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>>377623637
I forgot about azura, but ephraim is just a babysitter. At least he has sort of a niche unlike the other meme units i've seen idiots promoting like sharena and catria and est
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>>377622143
I have B Tomebreaker to kill Lindes, but I have a dancer to back him up so it may not work for you, I don't really understand why people put quick riposte on him though.
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So what's the best way to even clear this GHB? I've never bothered attempting since I've never really had good units, but I feel like I might have a shot this time around to get the 4* Lloyd.
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>>377623814
What the fuck do you think
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>>377623637
Cordelia is underrated imo. I didn't like it when I got her instead of Hinoka in the flier gauntlet but she quickly turned into one of my most useful units.
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>>377623919
>Calls Sharena a meme
>Thinks Cordelia is good
LOL
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>>377623978
Bow counter to lure out the archer, red mage to nuke the wyvern, blue tank for the rest.
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>>377624018
She's probably underrated because people don't like her art. I got an optimal Cordelia but I won't promote her because her art is so shit
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>>377623887
No reason to waste all the time spent leveling her just to give a less useful unit her attack. Just hold on to her and use her when you need her, and if you get a better nowi just merge her into the new one.
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>>377624164
>don't have a 5* or even level 40 red mage, archer or blue tank

Fuck. Maybe Ike can carry my shitty ass.
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>>377624003
I only got the game a while ago and I don't quite understand how buffs work
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>>377624308
Lloyd is meh at best anyways. He's no Xander
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>>377624051
enjoy your +0 neutral nature with less Str and Spe for the remainder of the game's life and no flying, scrub.
go ahead and try to defend Threaten Atk 2 while you're at it, I could use a laugh. or tell me how you're scared of takumi in a post-SI game, that would be great too.
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>>377624390
I kinda wish I had Xander just because I like him. Unfortunately all I have is spring Xander instead. And I think he's -ATK.
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>>377609610
can they never let bthx do art again? that art is god awful
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>>377624369
Buffs that show up on the status screen don't stack, it just takes the highest of. Things like goad cavalry or spur speed, that occur only if adjacent/near during combat, stack.
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>>377624440
He'll come around again some time. Since you apparently don't have a lot just build up your stuff slowly and wait for him to come around again. I missed Zephiel and Michalis and I'm waiting for them to come around again.
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>>377624195
Yeah, I can get that. Luckily for me though my taste in art is shit and it grew on me after a while.
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You know what I want?
More than 5 team slots.

I don't want it bad enough that I'd spend orbs on it or anything, I'm just sayin'.
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>>377624668
The worst part is I don't feel like I don't have a -lot-, but most of my 5*s are all blue, save for Ike and Hector. One is a Dancer, but they're dead in one shot to basically everything, I think.
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>>377622606
I don't run a Quad anything. I run Blade mages, and I have a friend who runs Quad Niles. Both types of unit will hit a brick wall somewhere. My Nino can't beat Zephiel in one round. My Lilina can't beat Nowi.

The only exception to the rule is Ursula who beats everyone under optimal setup. Even then, I'd have a Xander and Fredrick to support her weaknesses.

A unit being able to kill 90% of the roster is fine. Which is what Blades and Quads do. It allows you to complement them with units that can kill their weaknesses while also providing high win rates.

>>377622705
>Posted a laughingman.jpeg
What did he mean by this? Probably never realized how good they were and is laughing at the idea of 4x attack is.
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>>377624841
This shit right here. There isn't enough space for armor/flier/cavalry memeteams PLUS main/arena/quest/training teams and it's not a huge issue but still a pain in the ass to constantly re-assemble them.
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>>377624925
> quad Niles
I've got a friend who likes Niles, I figured that would be a quasi-viable build for him.
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>>377623017
>I'm tier 15
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>>377624421
Team Support + Legendary Weapon > Plinking for 0x4 damage.
Neither are fantastic damage dealers, but if you want a damage dealing spear you run Effie or Ephriam.
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>>377625181
>liking Niles
y tho
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>>377625063
Not to mention once you've got a defense team set you're pretty much down to 4 teams left.
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>>377623814
Hone/Fortify/Defiant buffs are blue stat increases on a character. They can't stack, and instead override eachother.

An example would be Hone Attack on a horse unit gives them +4 Atk. But they also received Hone Cav giving them +6 Atk which overrides the +4. Its why Defiant skills aren't preferred in most cases.
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I had to clean up my barracks

I wasn't expecting this thing to be useful but I've yet to run into anything she doesn't instakill, including blue armors. Don't see myself using her but at this point there isn't much to do in the game except create abominations.
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>>377605768
Working on Sharena.

Fensalir is main weapon for any of her build right?
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>>377625253
>tfw tier 16, and on my way to 17.
>While 17 scrubs are all losing to whales and are getting demoted soon.
Feels good to be part of the majority, not needing to compete with whales.
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>>377624390
He's a solid free infantry sword with almost 1 to 1 stats on a Neutral Lucina thanks to weapon Mt and effect. Just go standard duelist setup with Fury SBreaker Moonbow. Completely good give away unit with a cool sprite, but with shit art.
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>>377624519
Still a step up from the art from Awakening, Fates, and Sophia's pencil neck
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>>377625650
Yup. Helps her support and gives her a needed boost to attack.
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>>377625653
Don't worry, you'll be getting your butt pounded soon enough, so lube up
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I just want a good Fire Emblem game, is that too much to ask?
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>>377625786
He requires a shitload of investment.
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>>377625650
No reason to give her anything else. Her atk and spd aren't high enough to pull off a Brave Lance and with Fury and Fenasalir, her atk can reach the 50s
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>>377624925
But the problem is that the units I listed all have very different counters. My Nino can murder anything that's not Hector or a Distant Counter Red so I have Eirika for the former and Azura for the latter. That's a team of three units who can deal with 99% of arena teams. You can't reach that same result with Quadsuna because she has so many common hard counters.
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>>377625894
All video games are bad
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>>377625865
>Implying the whales won't all be in tier 18 by then
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I'm grinding those large red emblem things to upgrade either stahl or lon'qu. Which one should I?
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I recently got my first Nowi. She's 4* and -Atk + Def. Is she usable?
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>>377625786
Granted, I'm biased because I have an abundance of red units so at this point I find most sword lords "meh" because I have so many and they're all the same style builds.
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>>377626002
I don't even bother opening reds any more.
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>>377625181
The name of the game is playing with units you like. Henry is (sadly) the only really irredeemable unit. Say, you make a Quad Niles. Yeah, you don't kill everything Setsuna does, but you're still gonna take down everything that doesn't have super high Def or a Raven tome. Some anons here don't acknowledge this, and instead bless me with (You)s when I try to help players with units they like or ideas they wanna try.
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>>377625786
>fury
>swordbreaker
>moonbow

I have better units to give those three skills to than Lloyd with half the investment
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>>377626101
Opinions on my wo dao+ memebow selena? I'm leaning on fury + renewal for A and B.
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>>377626081
I do only because I have only gotten two Lon'qu's and I need the Vantage fodder. Hinata's are nice too
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>>377625934
>Three 4*s is a lot of investment.
Don't reply anymore, please.

>>377625946
Reinhardt can't stomp 90% of the game, but Ursula is objectively "better" at full power. Doesn't mean you can't run Rein and easily stomp your arena matches. Likewise, a Quad character may not achieve the same winrates as the best blade mages, but its irrelevant when we move past 1v1 onto Team vs Team. Bottom line is, Quads can kill so many units, that its easy to set up a team with that focus, and cover their weaknesses. Your quad struggles with Nowi? Get a green that hard counters her. Can't deal with Hector. Get a red. Zephiel? If he runs Vantage, he can be Desperado'd. If he runs Wary fighter, lmao free kill.

>My Nino can murder anything that's not Hector
Oh, I'm so sorry. What is your build?
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>>377626081
I'm currently only rolling colorless for fluffymeme but if there's no colorless, I roll red hoping for a Hinata. I need more Fury3
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>>377625653
>he thinks it won't just be whales at T17
Enjoy dropping back down to 16 in a week
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>>377605768
Anybody who's playing echoes, can you change out the default black magic for defense? I want Kliff to have thunder for defense
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>>377626854
It defaults on fire.
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>>377626142
(You) do. Congrats.
New players or bad luck F2P don't. If you can't land a perfect Ryoma, Lucina, or Ike, then running a "Duelist" is a great option to counter them and Greens. Lloyd is a free one, and a good one to boot.

>>377626002
Same thing applies here. A lot of us are drowning reds because we started in Feb and/or rolled for Ike/Ryoma, got em, consider the rest trash. Its not true though, and a lot of swords can be built well to play a key role on teams.

>>377626252
I'd have to look into that. I've rarely looked at Selena, because I have don't feel one way or the other about her. But Wo Dao+ memes are fun.
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>>377625561
How would I want to set up c skills to maximize cav meme effectiveness?
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>>377626969
I'm currently running 2 hones, a fortify and a goad. I know a few others are as well but I don't know if it's the most optimal. You do however want two hones so everyone has an attack buff when you engage and it increases the likelihood of the unit you need being buffed.
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>>377626936
Selena has a decent bulk spread where she can take hits and rarely get doubled and comes with TA, threaten speed and reposition right out of the box. but her atk is shit, base 25 at neutral, hence the wo dao+ memebow. The one I'm building is +atk -hp.
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>>377626936
granted, if you're a bad luck f2p player, chances of having any of those skills are slim to none
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>>377626081
That's how I feel about colorless. At least there's a ton of exciting 5* reds. After getting Kagero there's nothing else that's worth it.
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>>377626745
meh. 4orbs are going to be whale territory only anyways, and between t16 and t17 it's only 100 feathers difference. If I'll stay in those tiers I ain't complaining
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>>377625980
Nowi's a good Tank/Baiter to anything that's not green or falchion user. +Def should be fine
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>>377626969
Depends on the cav team.
>All melee?
Probably want goads, but good luck getting three 5* Reins to eat. So, probably 3 Hones, since they're gonna likely have the defenses needed.
>1 Mage?
Blade mage needs Hone and Fort bare minimum. Raven tome probably wants Hone, since they're not gonna take damage from what they wall with TA.
>3 Mages?
lmao your score.
Friend's iPad had the luck to set this up. We made
CC Blade Leo
Standard Thundercock
TA Raven Cecilia
Literally the greatest team in the game, with the shittiest score. Still places high, though. Anyway, run 2 Hones and 1 Fort.
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>>377612523
>report a thread about videogames in /v/
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>>377627253
Chances of having Fury (Free), Desperation 2(Free), Moonbow (Free) are 100% to 100%, approximately.
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>>377626623
Read before you post. The problem with Quadsuna is that you can only have 4 units on your team and it takes a lot more than that to cover her common counters, especially with bonus units limiting your choices.

>Oh, I'm so sorry. What is your build?
It's pic related. She always lacks a few points of damage needed to oneshot him. It's not a problem though, Eirika always take care of him.
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>>377627582
>Desperation 2(Free)
I goofed here. Thinking of another build. Swordbreaker could be annoying to get, admittedly. But you only really need SBreaker 2. I'll give you that one, though. Bad luck is a bitch.
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>>377625580
she is the greatest brave sword use in the game
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Which artist is your guys' favorite? Mine is Kusugi Toku (Setsuna/Jaffar/Serra)
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Can I make a competent team out of these units? Help please.
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I have trouble between deciding a red unit for my arena core team. Team consists of Azura, Julia and your weekly bonus arena unit (will probably stay lvl1 if I am too lazy). Lucina or Ike for the sword slot? (I did +1 Ike in the meantime so he has an extra attk and hp)
What do you think?
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>>377628094
The one with natural distant counter.
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>>377627839
Ogma does it better with +spd
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>>377628172
>lower atk
>lower spe
>can't activate desp on whim
No, he isn't in this dimension
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>>377628017
Yamada Akihiro, Amagaitaro and HACCAN.
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>>377628267
The have the same attack with LaD while he has 10 more HP and 5 more defense while only having 2 less spd
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I didn't think I could break 4800 using a 4*.

Save those orbs, don't roll just to get a bonus unit.
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Are there any leaks as to exactly when when/what the next banner will be? I assume we will have to get one either on or by the 30th, then we get another on the 2nd for battling Camus.

These orbs are burning a hole in my pocket and I need some good inherit fodder.
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>>377628492
>merged
>armor
Whoa...
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>>377628545
The next banner is going to be the triangle weapons banner according to the datamining.
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>>377627681
Well, first, pic related.
I don't use mass calcs as a definitive proof, but I will use it as an "at a glance". A +Atk, not speed, Quadsuna picks up a plethora of kills. With basically armors like Zeph and Effie getting in the way.
While a Nino picks up less kills, namely against reds, which is obvious.

2 things here:
Obviously this isn't considering optimal natures and builds you see at top tier arena. But it shows you what you'd naturally have a hard time to deal with, and using your brain isn't hard to find answers for them. I agree Nino or blade mages are better, because its just easier to find an answer to their weakness(Weak to red? Blue. Got it.), but it doesn't devalue wanting to run a Quad unit that can pick up likely the same amount of kills. Especially if we're talking about a colored Quad or best cases scenario, Olwen.

The second thing is your Nino, in my opinion, has a poor setup, and thats why you lack the power to kill things like Hector. Desperation nets those kills, and Fury makes it easier to either take the damage or burn it the HP to activate that Desperation. Then, of course, make sure the nature works well with it.
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>>377628492
Shanna a best
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>>377605768
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I'm in dire need of Shannas for SI and she just won't show up. The pain of having incomplete builds is almost as bad as having shitty IVs.
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>>377628608

Ah shit, well that doesn't sound very appealing.
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>>377628446
They have the same atk only if you invest a LnD while Hana has it naturally, bulk doesnt matter if you kill everything when initating and lower HP from Hana means that she can activate desp with one ardent sac. Not to mention she can actually servive a hit most of the time from the mages that are everywhere in this game. With the same build, Hana has one more kill over him

>inb4 you said bulk doesnt matter
Obviously I was referring to counterattacks
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> tfw you finally get a MKV strategy to work
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>>377629053
Yeah it sound like is going to be a bunch of heroes with emerald/ruby/sapphire weapons.
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>>377627839
Swords are the worst to Quad because of SBreaker being actually useful. Not that you can't destroy things with a Quad in general, just sayin.

>>377628072
Celica is powerful with her tome. Fury/LnD is the best on her imo.
Abel with at least Neutral Atk nature and Atk+3 skill or Fury is great, but you'd really want Deathblow.
Faye could use Triangle Adept to wall out Blues, tank Greens, and since she comes with Renewal, you can give her Ardent sacrifice to heal Celica and get her nuke back.
4th unit is generally the Arena bonus unit.
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>>377623256
She's also a stronger -Blade user than Ursula with the right setup as well.
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I guess I'm going to rank down this season. I really hate Alfonse so much. He sucks so much even as a 5*.
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>>377628094
ike for sure
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>>377629252
should've just gone with stockholm syndrome aniki
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>>377629190
Only 8 units can survive the initial x2 for sbreaker to be relevant, but yeah objectively you are correct
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>>377628017
Akira.
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>>377629252
>He fell for the Alhonse meme.
As expected of a Nino Memer.
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>>377629221
>Doesn't come with DB3
>Already has a tome that can murder almost anything with Quads
>Both need Desperation3
Why even both, assuming you pulled the right nature? Having the best Quad in the game is way cooler than a flat chested version of PERFECTION.
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>>377629190
I feel like Swordbreaker is overrated. On Ninian I can get it because even Roy gives her trouble normally but blues usually trash reds anyways.
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>>377629252
He isn't too bad as a 5* if you slap a brave sword+ on him but even then he's not exceptional by any means.
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>>377629084
>They have the same atk only if you invest a LnD while Hana has it naturally,
Ogma has brave sword naturally

>bulk doesnt matter if you kill everything when initating
He does the same thing

Hana has no hp and cannot trade with anything where as Ogma can. Running ardent doesn't mean anything since Ogma can actually take hit and activate desperation while Hana might not. The only thing she actually has over him is res but her lack of hp makes up the difference.
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Still no defense wins.
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>>377605768
Damn, 5* Xander is just too good. I may have to feed him my Eldigan for his Fury 3.
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>>377629693
You're really expecting to get a defense win with this team? This is basically the easiest team to bait in existence.

Don't put all 3 colors in a defense team you're just killing yourself.
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>>377629252
Literally just gave him his default kit + axebreaker and reciprocal aid.

axebreaker lets him kill all greens and aid lets him heal someone to full health thanks to his fat hp. It also usually puts him in range of his sword's ability, which lets him oneshot some things.

Not great, but serviceable.
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>>377629861
What do you recommend then?
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>>377629982
>needs Axebreaker just to beat things he should already beat

Come on that's pretty trash.
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>>377629628
It makes a lot of Swords relevant thanks to Fury's bulk. Theres way more popular swordsman people want to and will run, and a common way to make them worthwhile is Sbreaker to beat out Vantage Ryoma/Ike and Desperado Luci.

A friend just started the game because Roy is his favorite. We rerolled until he got a 4* neutral Roy and 5* Atk Raven. So, he's got a good start. But the point is, that Roy can be a great red unit with that setup. He'll still destroy greens, have bulk and offense for neutrals and mages, and he'll contend with common swords on top of that. Lord popularity keeps swords common and thus SBreaker gains value and itself is common.
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>>377629628
Probably. But you can't deny it's usefulness with all the speedy red swords running around
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>>377629651
>Ogma has brave sword naturally
you are right, totally forgot that

>He does the same thing
so physical bulk is pointless except if you

>Ogma can actually take hit and activate desperation

which is a terrible idea since you leave yourself open to threaten skills etc + sbreaker being so popular, you always want to be the one initiating with this build

Friendly reminder that Hana still has one kill over Ogma and her superior speed will only benefit her more as more units come out
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Any of you got experience with a Lyn or fighting them? She was my first 5* and with pretty bad IVs (-spd+res) still, want to make her as good as she can be but can't decide with so many options.
Luna or capitalize +res and go for iceberg? LaD even if I'm taking res away for her potential as a mage killer? Darting blow was an option but don't know if anyone has tried that. Even got a +3 attack laying there. I know she benefits from brash assault but that would be last to add after I put on a special and propper A skill.
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>>377629651
Obviously it comes down to
>My waifu
>My bro/Dat Yamada art
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>>377628708
You should add in +Spd and/or Fury enemies and see Quadsuna's win rate drop like a rock.
inb4
>implying everyone has that shit on them
Of course they don't, but in high level Arena way too many of them do.
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>>377629190
>Faye could use Triangle Adept to wall out Blues, tank Greens, and since she comes with Renewal, you can give her Ardent sacrifice to heal Celica and get her nuke back.
I think you mean Boey, right? Sounds like a solid combo overall. Abel seems to be +Atk, so is a Fury still good on him? I wish I had enough units with Death Blow, but I even lack those.
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>>377630098
Keep titty ninja and sister fucker, Try Xander and Leo. Axe users are easily cucked since S tier red units are so common
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>>377630189
All I need out of the jobber is to boost my arena score and kill hector/minerva.

Plus he can one round hector, which not a lot of swords can pull off.
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>>377630314
Oh I won't disagree that real matches are different. As I said, the calculator is "at a glance" and I'm not arguing about Blade tomes are better. Quads are just fantastic builds, and definitely kill plenty, including the meta builds. If thats what it takes to run ya boi Niles/your waifu Setsuna, why shit on it? Its just a little harder to build a team around.

Its more likely that when I said "comparable to blades" the word comparable means 1 to 1 just as good, when I'm sitting here talking about within a reasonable margin.
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>>377629125

I guess Azura could get on it if that's the case, nothing else in the TA or TAweapon list really excites me.
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>>377630098
Looking at your box I have no idea, I guess the only meme unit you have is Takumi, you could try swapping Anne with him to see if anything happens I guess.

The thing is that you have a bunch of reds, but reds are easily countered because everyone runs a blue unit on their team, and greens are just worthless unless they are Hector or Julia. You could try working on a cav meme team if you want though.
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>>377629861
I don't know what you're talking about, even with Alfonse's bitch ass on my 3 color Defense team I have 5 Defenses.
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>>377630696
What's your tier?
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>>377630327
Fury is gonna be good on him if only because every 1 point of attack is essentially +2 thanks to Brave. Also, I meant Fae the dragon/manakete. Just spelt it wrong. Boey could be fine, but I don't like multi ranged teams. You tank score big time. If you don't mind that, then yeah. Go for it. All I know, my -Atk Celica has the worst nature and still rapes face. Don't have a Boey to try out.
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>>377630240
Forgot to add that Ogma has 9-1010 hp over Hana, while she has 12-13 res over him, so she is in fact better at taking magic hits
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>>377629693
PANIC
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>>377630885
At the disco
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Didn't expect much out of this team but I'm happy with 5 wins. Don't really have any heroes left to grind, no missions left to do, and no good heroes to roll on. I'm sad about needing another 60k feathers to finish a horse team and having to use a 4* bonus shitter instead of Xander soon.
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>Arena Tier 16
>Keep getting matched against +2-5 Ryomas Hectors and Azuras

Im not even losing to them but isnt there supposed to be some kind of balancing. I don't have a single merged unit on my team
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just downloaded this game

what the fuck is this

Fire Emblem Pokemon?
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>>377630885
Guarenteed Nino/Julia/Hector/Cecilia teams are laughing at you.
>Xander runs out and dies like the moronic horse he is. Everything else gets countered by a green.
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>>377630885
Switch your lead to Azura to give people the false pretense that they might have an easy fight
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>>377631035
>Fire emblem Pokemon
this is closer to the truth than you'd might think
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>>377630280
-Spd makes her pretty much unsalvagable, sorry. Best options you have are either a LaD+Vantage build (not suggested since at best you'll hit 40 Spd with LaD and Spd +1 Seal before buffs) or a Defiant Atk+Brash Assault build so her terrible Speed is largely ignored while attacking. I can't really suggest that either since she's unbelievably easy to kill on Enemy Phase, so you'll need someone with something like Draw Back/Reposition or just have her be glued to a Dancer.
It's a damn shame you aren't +Spd. 46 potential base Speed is nothing to sneeze at.
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>>377631024
If you're doing Advanced, that's kind of the point. You get matched up with teams stronger than you. Also having skills slots filled (including assists and specials) increases your Arena rating so you'll get matched up with even stronger teams than you would otherwise.
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>>377631024
When you fight an advanced battle, you should expect a team more advanced than yours, hence the name.
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>>377631024
Only means good things for you. You WANT to fight merged units. Better score, not all that much harder to kill.
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>>377631024
What do you expect from "Advanced" arena fights. The entire point of them is that the team you fight is going to outclass your own. If you want a fair fight pick "Intermediate".
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>>377631021
What's your build on Reinhardt, Xander and Hector?

The only one I don't have is Takumi but I guess I can swap him.
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>>377630820
17
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>>377628708
I agree with you. I guess the main reason I'm arguing against her this much is because in my experience Setsuna has been a real pain to use. You need two specific units + a dancer (one of which has to be bonus unit), with buffs, that counter whatever Setsuna has trouble with and Ardent Sacrifice/Reciprocal Aid which are way less reliable than Fury. And that's not even counting the positioning you need to do to keep the buffs on Setsuna, units with random fury/bowbreaker that can mess with your runs etc.
All in all it's so unreliable compared to how easy it is to make Nino kill everything while Eirika and Azura cheer her on from a distance.

You're also right about Nino. I did all that back when SI first dropped and I just wanted to see big numbers, hence Draconic Aura.
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>>377631024
Bro, I'm at the same tier and will occasionally get matched up against teams with level 39 units or aren't decked out. Which is great for me, but then it'll rubber band to bullshit enemies. The matchmaking is fucking weird
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This is my Ninners, and she is very lucky!

What skills should I put on her?
Half tempted to put a 5* Corrin on the altar of sacrifice for Dark Breath+ memes on top of turning her into a buff queen.
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>>377630280
Just realised that Lyn has in built desperation. I want one as well now, imagine the memes with vantage
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>>377605768
Not getting much orbs anymore, losing interest pretty fast.
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>>377630837
Ah, I see. Yeah, my Fae is +HP -Atk sadly. Got ATK +3 on her but Fury sounds like a solid plan. She was helping me out quite well in the recent GHB too. Are any Specials good on her? Probably Iceberg due to her Res, I'd assume.
>Celica has the worst nature and still rapes face.
Mine is +Spd -Atk but with ATK+3 or even LaD 2 she still gets over 80 wins with the calculator. Any recommendations as for her B Skill? Seems like Swordbreaker gives her the most wins but would a Desperation be good on her too?
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>>377630280
A -spd lyn should always go brash assault. It goes well with her sword's innate ability. Iceberg will usually do more damage than luna, and you can either keep defiant atk, which works good with her kit, or slap fury.
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>>377630674
>Its more likely that when I said "comparable to blades" the word comparable means 1 to 1 just as good, when I'm sitting here talking about within a reasonable margin.
Yeah, I guess I can agree with that much, outside of -Blade memes Brave shit is probably the next most exploitable overall.
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>>377631246
What's the rest of your team? I'm also at tier 17 but I don't have much success with reds. I only have 2 defenses with hector right now.
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>>377631406
So just log in once a day until a new banner drops, bitch
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>>377631312
>dark breath
I don't think that's a good idea, since you don't want her fighting. It might come clutch in a few situations but I digress
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>>377630194
I don't get it, but I just fight reds with blues or Kagero. I don't need my sword to do it. But then again I put Escape Route and Wings of Mercy on everything because of how much I value mobility.
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>>377631024
Aren't you proud that the game acknowledges that it needs to throw stronger opponents at you to match your superior skill level?
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>>377631406
Its a dying game, best not spend a single cent on it or you'll regret it.
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>>377622432
I have a -spd + res one =(
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>>377631206
>>377631162
>>377631159
I don't believe that. Not every team in advanced has merged units and some teams are just flat out easy to beat because they're not meme teams
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>>377631636
Just because you posted this, I'll make a new thread when this one dies

>Its a dying game
proofs? or is it just the expected fallout that happens with pretty much all games?
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>>377631513
Leading with Alfonse, followed by Linde (-Spd +Def), Ryoma (+Atk -Res) and Fae (+Def -HP).
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>>377631789
>>377631665
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>>377630280
Assuming Brash Assault guarentees the double under 50% hp, and Sol Katti guarentees the brave effect, then she'll beat out everything she's supposed. Death Blow would then be best in the A slot, since speed doesn't due to the above mentioned skills.
These calculators don't seem to work Sol Katti and Brash correctly, and I have a +Spd Lyn so I can't test it.
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>>377631720
Slap Fury on her to help alleviate some of that speed loss.
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>>377631869
Sol Katti isn't a Brave effect, it's literally just Desperation 2.
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When will I be allowed to marry Fae?
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>>377622432
Nowi a best
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>>377630885
Lel. Literally drowning in defenses.
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>>377632116
Not yet
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>>377632153
If you didn't sperg out, you probably wouldn't have been deleted.
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>>377632153
Are you mad anon?
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>>377632116
Tomorrow
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>>377632116
Never. ;_;
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>>377632116
When it's truly time for fun.
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>>377631280
I said it in another post above, but I don't like double ranged or ranged + dancer because Im a score fag. I have the ultimate mage meme team on a friend's iPad account with Leo, Rein, and Cecilia. So, I try to focus on one mage with one armor to balance score out. I'm lucky to have a Ephraim so my blade mages are STRONK. But I can imagine thats actually why Quadsuna is a pain for you. You're devoting too much of the team to her, when the strength to the Quad unit (imo) is that they DONT need the team to be devasting. At least not like how a blade mage is so dependant on their buffs. I know Hone Atk/Spd is important on a Quads but its not hard to have those two on between 1 or 2 units' C skills. A blade mage NEEDS everyone contributing or one unit dedicated to buff duty while providing a secondary role for balance's sake.
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>>377632185
Can you share your peri build? I really want to make my waifu strong
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>>377632185
This team is fucking garbage, even for a cav team. People need to start carrying sturdy greens.
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>>377631237

Builds are pretty cookie cutter, Hector isn't ideal but I don't have any Vantage/ThreatenDEF to give him or extra feathers for a hone attack or something cheap. I had been trying Tharja in the Takumi slot since she has more inherit work done and I figured that would increase the point total but I gave up on that idea. Dropped Takumi in simply because he is harder to deal with.
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>>377631147
>>377631414
>>377631869

Alright thanks for the info, these ideas give me more confidence than what I've read in the wiki. Yeah -spd is hell but godda work with what the rng god gives me, probably gonna prioritize on brash assault then, got 1 barte laying around there I'm sure.
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>>377631412
>Fae is +HP -Atk sadly
That does suck, sure, but thankfully the point of Triangle Adept in the A slot for her is to just wall out Blues and tank Greens while you safely attack from distance.

>+Spd -Atk Celica
I'm still envious. The funny part is I really don't know what I want on her B. Had I neutral Atk or better, she'd have desperation to give her more options when not at full HP. SBreaker is probably solid. I was thinking Renewal just to alleviate my team's need to reload her nuke. I'm just glad her shitty nature is so redeemable because of that speed and her tome.
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>>377632616
>these ideas give me more confidence than what I've read in the wiki
Protip, NEVER listen to the English wiki for anything besides stats and skills. Just don't do it man.
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tasukete
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>>377631863
What? I can easily think of some ways how to counter your team with some normal units, but I guess I can see how your Linde can mess up a team considering that Xander and Alfonse are on bonus, so I really hope you're not bullshitting on me because this actually gave me some insight, thanks.
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>>377632374
Peri isn't good mang.
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>>377632807
>defence 283

You have bigger problems.
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>>377632185
>brony squad
Got anything interesting to share?
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>>377631312
Buffslut is the way to go, she already buffs def and res with her attack, so just give her a rally speed from Caeda, and sacrifyce a FemCorrin/ Olivia for home attack and you'll have a unit that can buff every stat.

Or if you don't want to have her attacking, just stick with Fortify res and give her the Spur Def seal or go the oposite way and make her a debuffslut, in which case FemCorrin's Dark Breath is a very good idea.
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>>377632672
Might be able to get a Selena to 4* as I dont have any other units with TA right now. Fug

I was thinking of Renewal too, but even with Renewal 3 it would require you to survive at least two enemy phases without taking any damage in order to nuke again. SBreaker probably is the best deal on her right now since she can easily kill Greens with her normal kit too. Those fucking Reinhardts are still the bane of my existence though.
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What infantry and flier units does Xander fare best with?
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>>377631628
I mean, I finally rolled Lucina last week, who is a favorite character of mine but she was -Spd/+Atk. And again, my friend who loves Roy from Smash is willing to play and discuss the game so I gave him the best option for his favorite. If nothing else, it lets them be more than usable, but play a strong role on a team.

I mean, fuck, I have a +Spd/-HP Ryoma. What the hell do I care at the end of the day? But making units good/useful is the fun of this game to me.
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>>377632807
I'm just about to be shoved down from heading into T18, but it sucks to be risking demotion.
>>377632819
110% not bullshit, I can post my units as well if you want.
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>>377632893
Correction: YOUR Peri isn't good. Especially with that negative speed IV
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>>377632893
Thanks i know she is not good but i can try
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>>377632185
>tfw no Reinhardt
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>>377632756
Yeah dodged a bullet there, is there a reliable jpn site? I've found like 3 but no idea if they're legit sometimes you can bump into some very wacky builds there
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>>377632893
>moonbow instead of glacies or iceberg

why tho
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>>377630885
I literally started gaining defenses after adding 4* Xander, and after 5* him I gained 2 more.
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>>377633048
No need to, but I'd like to know the builds you use on them. And is the Alfone 5*?
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>>377633247
Honestly, you really should just ask here. Not only are people generally fairly helpful, I'd go so far as to say that a lot of us here are actually good at this game.
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>>377633281
She'll die before those gets off.
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>>377632616

Any Lyn is great really, people like to overthink her build but Brash Assault is just perfect and makes her very straightforward and powerful. Her SPD stat really only exists to prevent her from being doubled, it's not an offensive stat in most cases.

She's fairly bulky so it's nice to have her stand in and tank a hit then with her activated Brash+Desperation she can drop 2x bombs on your enemies. With the new mage/horse meta she isn't as powerful as before but I've enjoyed using her as an anchor on my main team for most of the games lifespan.
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>>377633282
I wish there was a way to tell how many people have actually fought my team. I've got some really solid units but still no defense wins.
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This game really needs more content. One ghb.voting gauntlet every now and then is not cutting it
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>>377631147
>>377631414
>>377631869
>>377632616
>>377633523
>Rollan for Lyn back when everyone was rerolling for tacos
>Get mai waifu
>Find out later she's -atk.

His is at least salvagable, mine is just....
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>>377632962
I got it before I remembered to change my team to include a bonus unit. Unfortunately, it's also my only defense
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>>377633631

I've always wanted that, at the very least show me how many times my team was picked. If they want to get fancy then show me the final score of the matchup too, let me see if they won flawlessly or if I managed to take out 1-2 units.
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>>377633928
Id probably exit out too, I couldn't hurt genny
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>>377633846
>discover my Lyn/first unit I rolled was -Atk
>get excited when I accidentally get another one
>she's also -Atk
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>>377633846
LnD baby!
Roll out those Reciprocal aids and Hone Attacks, cuz we're gonna need all the help we can get!
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>>377633391
Yeah, posted a couple of times before and usually get lots of good discussion out of builds which is great.

>>377633523
What did you get for her A skill? I might start saving feathers for deathblow
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>>377631021
I have this team but instead of Hector I have an Olivia with Wings of Mercy.
0 victories.
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>>377634115
Deathblow is nice, because you can still slap Hone attack on her from an ally. Defiant can't.
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>>377632807
git gud
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>need vantage for Hector and Eliwoods
>don't wanna waste trying to get orbs for lonqu, incase of new focus
This game is suffering
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>>377634115

I just left Defiant ATK on her, she does her work in it's active range anyway, Deathblow is an expensive inherit if you don't have a Klein around and I never managed to get one.
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>>377605768
No guaranteed daily orb really makes me want top drop this game. Couple on the fact that tower still intentionally stacks the odds against you also makes me want to not do any of the missions.
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>tfw when you're playing since day one but you didn't bother playing 2 weeks of the arena when the game started so you're stuck on tier 16 and will have to wait another week to finally get 4 orbs.

They should've told us that tier were going to be useful sooner.
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>>377634281
All you prove with these pics is that you can't place high without armors, who are scarce as hell.
They really need to get rid of the BST affecting your score entirely, but then again, how else are they going to evaluate you?
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>>377634483
They should be bringing back the daily orbs, it'd be stupid not to. We need more twitter events as well
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>>377634483
Shit reminds me of World Chain. The game was very generous with Orbs at the beginning and some months later it became the most jewish thing Sega has ever done. Such is the fate of Mobages. It's still better than FGO and GBF at least.
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>>377634281
>25
>18
>41
>435
Are armor units required for good scores or something?
You've got a blue unit in every team though. Just how upgraded are they?

I've had deathless runs each season but never gotten anywhere close a sub 1000 rank, let alone a sub 100 rank.
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>>377633282
>Still leaving a fully fledged defense team after getting one +500 Points Win

Why?
You only need one.
The only thing you're gaining is giving your opponent the incentive to find the means to counter your team, making it harder for you to get future wins.

Sure, maybe you'll break a perfect streak and stop 4 or 6 people to get above your rank, but defenses are way more important.
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>>377634437
Tiny hands man also gives vantage 3 at 4*
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>>377634174

I'd imagine it works because Hector/Takumi aren't really threats but rather are just there to be hard to deal with units. Xander and Rein are the troublemakers and the opponent has to keep his counters alive to deal with Hector and Taco later in the battle.
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O fug
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>>377633337
>And is the Alfone 5*?
Yep, and it was a mighty pain in the ass to level and inherit shit onto him as well.
>No need to, but I'd like to know the builds you use on them.
FURY AND VANTAGE ON LITERALLY EVERYONE
No, seriously, literally everyone on my team has those skills, and I still have some Hinatas and Lon'Qus to burn for more. Totally F2P also, but I guess it's balanced out by the fact that I've literally never rolled miss Desperation 3 fodder or any Greens better than Fae.
In any case, since I have no Brave Sword + fodder for Alfonse, I had to make due with Folkvangr. I gave him Draw Back as it's my preferred positioning assist, along with the Fortify Res 1 Seal. He still runs Spur Atk 3 and Sol, the former because it's actually decent, the latter since I have no special fodder he wants.
Linde is still running Aura and Ardent Sacrifice, basically turning her into a unit that can act as a pseudo Healer while still being able to attack at the same time. She's running Moonbow along with Hone Atk 3 and HP +3 as well (38 HP, 36 Spd, 21 Def and 30 Res is surprisingly decent bulk).
Ryoma obviously has Raijinto, coupled with Draw Back and Moonbow. He also still has his Hone Spd 3 and a Spd +1 Seal on him.
Fae has Lightning Breath +, Draw Back and Moonbow. She still has Threaten Atk 3, though it's probably soon going to be replaced with Spur Atk 3, and she has the Atk +1 Seal.
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>>377634696
Armor units give more points as far as I know.

You need a lot of fucking patience to play with them though, I rarely bother because I don't want to go insane.
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>>377634925
Horseslaying non-tomes when?
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I'm thinking of sacrificing this useless cunt so my Ike can get Quick Riposte
Should i?
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>>377635019
Just use FRobin bro :^)
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>>377632116
you can't marry a kid.
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>>377634925
Did you win?
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>>377635080
Here's Ike, just because
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>>377635148
Midori says otherwise.
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>>377635080
Why not Subaki?
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>>377635080
>>377635185
Unless you dont have a Subaki and are clinically retarded, go ahead.
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>>377635185
If you want the Leo gone then yes for sure
If you don't want the Leo gone then just settle for a 4* Tsubaki and give Ike QR2
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What do I do with 5* atk - res Sheena?
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>>377635284
I don't have Subaki
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Leveled my +atk Reinhardt and gave him Death Blow 3

now I am bored because the game feels too easy..
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>>377635148
She's like 1000 or something, so it's fine
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>>377635343
He's free nigga, unless you've already killed the two you get for whatever reason, you should have his ass.
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>>377635343
Did you use up all the free Subakis you can get?
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>>377635080
>>377635185

You don't really need QR3 so throwing away a 5* unit like that isn't worth it. If Ike is your husbando then eh sure why not, treat him to the best.
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>>377635378
Try beating a Julia with your thundercock to spice things up
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>>377634929
>FURY AND VANTAGE ON LITERALLY EVERYONE

OH GOD OF FUCKING COURSE, this is actually the best defense strategy I've heard of.

I have an Hector with vantage already, and Ike and a Nowi, I guess they would make good use of Fury and Vantage, I still have like 2 Lon'qus and 3 Hinatas so I guess I'm set on that, just need to farm some SP.

I don't really like either Fury or Vantage when I'm attacking but I guess for defense there's no contender.
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>>377635743
>I don't really like either Fury or Vantage when I'm attacking but I guess for defense there's no contender.
WoM is a pretty close contender since it forces the attacker to OHKO/ORKO damn near everyone or else risking the entire enemy team pulling a
>*teleports behind you*
on their ass.
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>>377635743
ike wants heavy blade
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>>377635080
No. Keep him until you have Raurblade+, CC, Vantage. Then put him on a 3 cav mage meme team supreme.
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>>377632153
Sounds like the only cuck here is you.
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>>377636039
He's got many better skills he can get than Heavy Blade. About the only time I'd seriously consider it is if he's +Atk.
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Who else here excited for 4 orbs from the arena?
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What can i do with these?
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>>377636223
Make a waifu team
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>>377635979
WoM is actually the strategy I use, but I guess with this tier thing it just weeded out every idiot that goes attacking without looking at the skills or something because last season I was drowning in defenses, and I has been like that from the start of the game, but this season I only have 2.
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>>377636039
I agree with you if he's attacking but an AI Ike isn't gonna make good use of Heavy Blade at all.
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>>377636223
Celica, Nowi, Ninian, ???
Boey's not too great last I recall, but if you want a Green in there he could be your 4th man for PvE or replace Ninian in Arena if you don't want a Dancer.
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>>377631021
How the fuck do people still lose to Hector?
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>>377636714
>he doesn't have 4 Hector Defense teams
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>>377636315

>Had a WoM Hector on a team of tanky/hard to ORKO heroes
>10-27 defenses per week
>Arena changes hit
>Scraping by with 1-4 wins and having to completely switch up my team

feels real bad man
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>>377636837
>using a shit meme character
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>>377637017
>being assblasted
Show us where Oh-ho! man touched you
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>>377636714
Not all of us spend money on this fucking game bro. I have 1 good Hector counter, and that's only when their special is ready to go, otherwise they're taking damage that'll either leave them in single digits or outright kill them.

And that is without getting into meme Hectors with vantage/wings of mercy. Sincerely sorry I can't do anything about them because I'm a poorfag that has to rely on the kindness of a gatcha game to keep playing.
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>>377637017
>its bad because [people i dislike] like it
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>>377637095
I'm tired of this hector nonsense. If he is on a defense team with memes of mercy then he isn't good
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>>377637441
>I am tired of thing, that means thing is bad
How about you learn to have an attention span
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>>377636902
Basically my story.

It's not like getting 20 defenses gave anything extra, but it felt so good to see a bunch of morons die to my team.

Now it's only the occasional moron that probably got lucky on the tiers or a guy that entered the arena with the wrong team.
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>>377637441

He exists to pressure the opponent, sure you can have your counter stand there and kill him but the key is that you need to keep your counter alive and healthy enough to deal with him. While Hector isn't in the position to headline a team anymore that's still a tough task when you have buffed Nino/Linde/Tharjas flying at you alongside Reinhardt and other horse memes.

Plus not everyone has a straight up Hector counter, that's a free win right there.
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