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/pol/ BTFO by gamer dad

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/obsessed-video-gamer-dad-give-games-90-days/story?id=47463745

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>blue eyed wife with three kids
>retreats to the basement to play xbox with his bros every day after work
>wife takes away games so he can spend that time with family
>starts seeing a therapist for four hours a day instead

When should men cut back on gaming?
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>white """men"""
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I'm not "that guy" who thinks adults can't have fun, but if you want to spend hours a day playing video games, then don't have children. Once you have kids you no longer get that luxury. You just have to deal with it.

This is shy I'm 30 years old and can't imagine having kids btw. If you're smart, just don't do it.
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>>377604910
>not getting your kids into the hobby
Step it up.
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>tfw you didn't fell for the gf and raise a family meme
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what does that have to do with pol
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>tfw want to have kids but don't want to deal with kids
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>>377605018
This, fuckin' a, is there anything dumber a man can do these days than knocking up some woman?

If women want to make child rearing part of their core identity then so be it. But I am not sacrificing my happiness for it. No way no how.
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>gf yells at me for not paying attention to her and playing vidya
>stop playing vidya and pay attention to her
>she instantaneously starts looking on her phone at instagram and celebgossip shit

women are fucking retarded hypocrites
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>>377605179

If you're over 5'9 there's always sperm donation.
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>>377604910
I don't know why people think kids magically turn your previous life upside down. Of course it comes with sacrifices. Like I know I won't play MMOs anymore because I never know if I can sit trough a 1-2 hour long dungeon without interruption or not, but when the kid and the wife is sleeping, I can enjoy some good old fashioned single player vidya. Not to mention, if your mate understands your hobby, it helps a lot. She's also plays, sometimes I entertain the kid so she can finally get some alone time for herself.

You are still you. Yes, the kid is a responsibility, raise it and such, but that doesn't mean you throw everything out you loved before. Just learn to do things with moderation.
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>>377604910
I know a lot of crazy women (and men). Don't think kids would be a good thing to do, or at least until I start seeing less fucked up people in a general sense.
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>>377605179
>not travelling the world spreading your seed inside unsuspecting women at night
my genetics will survive
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>>377605102

Uhh blue eyed wife with three white kids is supposed to be the ultimate redpill.
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>>377605387
maybe you're just boring..
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>>377605468
>not raising your own flesh and blood
what a faggot you are, I bet your ancestors would be ashamed of you
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>>377605179
Have anonymous sex with a woman at a club. When you get to her place get her drunker. Have sex and when she passes out steal her wallet her money and all her credit cards. If she doesn't forget about the raw sex you had last she won't have the money to buy a pill anyway.
Then wait a month and start slipping abortion is murder pamphlets under her door so is guilt tripped into raising your child.
Boom you have a kid but no involvement.
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>>377604489
better than going out somewhere to drink a shit ton and then drive home drunk
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>>377605318
>is there anything dumber a man can do these days than knocking up some woman?
Let me guess, you are single, a kissless virgin, and have been rejected by every girl you've asked out on a date?
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>>377605643
lol, not even close, but nice try shaming me for YOUR poor decisions. I, in fact, lost my virginity right at the age of 18 with the first girl I picked out to seduce.

Unlike you, I'm just not enough of a dumbfuck to sacrifice my own happiness just because society tells me I need to have kids. FUCK that.
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>>377605546
>This guy spending more time with his children is bad

I honestly don't get the angle you're trying to work here.
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>>377605643
not him but I am neither of those 3 things and the fact that alimony and custody and child support are so much more in favor for women than men that yes it can be a very dumb thing for a man to knock up a woman
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>>377605582
yeah sure affects me that a bunch of bones are ashamed of me
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>>377605758
Woah look out guys we've got a nihilistic intellectual here, he's totally above his basic biological functions even though that's just a coping mechanism he's using *tips*
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>>377605812
if it wasn't for those people living through all kinds of stuff, wars, famine, plagues you wouldn't be here to shitpost you nihilistic piece of shit
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>>377604489
>When should men cut back on gaming?
When they decide they want to accomplish anything in life
You can play a few hours on weekends, especially with your kids. If you're over 25 and you still have time to play vidya at all on weeknights, you're failing at life.
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>tfw have never wanted and will never have children
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>Be a faggot trap
>Have a boyfriend that plays every vidya with me and always wants to try whatever I pick up
>Never have to worry about kids ever

It's perfect

Fuck children, I wouldn't raise one of the little sprogs if someone paid me.
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>>377605758
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>>377605643
not at all but nice to know the typical basement projectionist is on duty for every thread out here
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>>377605915
Enjoy your divorce then.
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>>377605812
That bunch of bones sweat and bled to give you the comfy life you have now, you disrespectful little teenage faggot. Grow the fuck up.
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>>377605796

What the fuck are you talking about? The guy in the video was spending no time with his family and playing games during holidays like thanksgiving. He is being a total nigger and having his wife take care of the kids.
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>>377605915
Oh boy armchair psychologist, how impressive.

Got anything else you wanna add to make yourself feel better about your shitty life, buddy?
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>>377605932
>if you have free time on weeknights you are failing at life
Whoa. Really makes me think.
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>>377605969
cool story tell me more
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>>377605947
Kill yourself degenerate
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>>377605976
Yeah I know and I agree with you, so why is /pol/ getting btfo or whatever?
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>>377604489
Dad is in the wrong here. Nothing wrong with gaming with your bros for hours, but every day after work is a bit much.
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>>377606003
Yeah I'll add that anime is for stunted little faggots.
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>>377605969
That's time they gave up willingly. I was forced into this world.
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>>377606050
Oh no, don't put me on a cross mister /pol/

I live a life of perfect hedonism and all you're going to do is be salty about it on the internet

Stay upset
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>>377606121
Joke's on you, I don't even like anime or any tv shows/movies in general. I do like smug anime girls, however.
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>>377606139
hahaha the world doesn't understand your pains eh Coldsteel? Sure you live a much more miserable life than your great great great great grandfather that had to make ends meet during war times and worse
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>/pol/
How the fuck is this /pol/ again?
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I've never understood why people get angry when their spouse doesn't go to bed when they go to bed
I'm a fucking night owl and your ass going to bed at 9 or 10 PM doesn't mean I have to give up my sleeping schedule and alone time so you can feel content with the fact that I'm going to bed at the same time as you
I will only stare at a ceiling and think about how much I'd rather do something else
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>>377606139
>Willingly

They did what they had to to survive and attempt to make life better for future generations you ungreatful shitsack. Their bones are the foundation of the world you live in and it's their gift to you, it's your job to maintain it.

>I was forced into this world.

Oh fucking grow up. I remember thinking like that when I was like 14 years old for fuck sake.
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>>377605932

I'm 26 writing my thesis. I can spend 6-8 hours a day on it, still hit the gym 3 times a week, have a GF and a social life AND play vidya on week days.

I don't have kids though.
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>>377606267
How does he have anything to do with me?
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>>377606348
yo quick question for you man

how come you feel the need to force your miserable life onto others bro?

time to accept that not everybody wants to get stuck with some crying fucking baby to take care of and move on.
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when the kid is born you basically don't have a life anymore outside of the kid. At least this is what was instilled in me as a child. Your life is second to the child till they get to highschool Till then you don't let them out of your sight. Most shitty kids and adults are spawn from shitty parents.
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>>377606209
Gonna be real fun when you start aging and look like a horrid monstrosity.
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>>377606367
That your ancestors had to live in murch harsher times than you do yet you're complaining. Some probably had to starve so they would feed their children. Shouldn't you be grateful for that?
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>>377606348
>maintain it
Couldn't care less about that. I'm not going to have any offspring so it doesn't matter to me.
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>>377606139
>I was forced into this world.

Is there anyone who wasn't?
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>don't want kids
>condom breaks with tinder date
>"I'm keeping it"

WHELP
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>>377606456
>b-b-but you'll be ugly... one day!!

holy fuck remain shittershattered go back to sucking your boyfriends dick lmao
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>starting a family is too much to ask
>women are whores for everyone but me
>how dare anything pry me away from vidya
>being an unambitious piece of shit is actually the best way to live, now let me tell you why fat people are disgusting
You do you, but don't blame us for wanting to better ourselves and contribute to society.
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>>377605546
Sounds like a fucking joke to me.
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>>377604489
>>377604910
>if you want to spend hours a day playing video games, then don't have children
This pretty much. There is nothing wrong with enjoying video games as an adult with kids, but do it in moderation. There are two different guys in my Discord server who just recently had a child, and one is on maybe once a week to drop by and chat while the other is constantly online posting shitty /pol/ memes. Don't be a manchild faggot like OPs pic and pic related.

>>377605318
>>377605018
>>377605758
>>377605803
>>377605958
>I let internet buzzwords like cuck and BLACKED dictate my relationships and family life
Good, do us all a favor and don't reproduce with your inferior genetics, you turbonerds. I bet you post regularly on /r/MBTOW, too.
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>6 consoles
>150 games

Wow that's so fucking hardcore. How much you guys want to bet he's got a Retron hooked up to a 42" flatscreen?
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>>377604489
>/pol/ BTFO by gamer dad
Im not exactly sure where you're going with that
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>>377606469
shouldnt you be ashamed someone in your tree line killed some blacks and shit while colonising over there ? no
probably proud of it or something actually

well its the same shit
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>>377606407
I'm not miserable at all, I'm not sure why you'd assume I was.

As to why I think people should start a family, I feel like holding that sort of responsibility is one of the keys to being a well-rounded individual. I mean it's our prime biological function, you surely must understand that missing out on it will affect you in some way.

Regardless though I'm genuinely not trying to force you to subscribe to my worldview, you can do and think whatever you want, best of luck to you whatever path you take.
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>>377605591
Enjoy prison
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>>377606232
If this isn't bait you are actually one of the cringiest people I've seen on 4chan in a while.
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>>377606586
Having children does not make you ambitious, lmfao

literally any braindead retard in this world can knock some chick up. In fact, braindead retards regularly knock chicks up, that doesn't mean they're more ambitious. wtf are you even talking about

man the salt from retards who can't control their dicks is really pouring into this place. It's kinda sad, but y'all really only have yourselves to blame. It is what it is.
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>>377606641
both his kids seem really disappointed, funny picture
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Moms are better at taking care of babies. Dads shouldn't really need to help until they're 5 or 6.
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>>377606641
This is the best point in time when it comes to babies. Because they are not old enough to even understand what the fuck they are saying and half the time they are in a state of sleep. My friend would spend his nights watching movies as he would have to wake up and feed his kid and then put it back to bed which would take a good hour or so.
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>>377606508
You will care about it one day if you actually grow out of your silly nihilism phase.
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>>377606720
In modern America, it takes ambition to rent/own a house, have a job and raise children with a wife. So many men are checking out of society, content with being societal flotsam.
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>>377605468
>tfw 5'10 but no sperm clinics want below 6' guys
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something something outbred white people

sage
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>>377606641
I donated sperm, my genetics will pass on even if you don't want them to.
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>>377604489
>all these videogame addicted gal-pals
>I have to work up the energy over a few hours to pick one up
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>probably works 50+ hours a week
>comes home spends rest of the day until bed with kids
>saturday comes, gets what needs to be done and wants to relax and play video games
>"wow how selfish do you even care what happens to your family?"
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>>377606268
>everything I dont like is /pol/
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>>377605102
It's just a bait thread or a false flag by a /pol/tard. Report and move on.
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>>377606720
>literally any braindead retard in this world can knock some chick up. In fact, braindead retards regularly knock chicks up
My wife works in special education and does home visits. The amount of homes she goes into where the dad doesn't work at all and is playing shooters on Xbox Live when she is doing therapy with their children is shocking. On a weekly basis she has to change clothes before going into a house because there is half eaten food and cockraoches scurrying around, but gamerdad is sitting on the couch with a controller in hand.

I normally don't get too up in arms about stuff like this but it's hard not to think reasonable and hardworking people are being vastly outbred by white trash scum.
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>>377606863
Nobody is saying that you retard.
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>>377606139

Then kill yourself if you don't want to be here you ungrateful shit.
Either that or accept you actually don't mind living and your entire 'forced' arument doesn't hold ground anymore.
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>>377606646
Considering he said that gaming makes him feel ageless, the same at 44 as he was at 16, I'd say it's guaranteed.
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Sounds like a lot of people here didn't have a father.

My dad was fucking awesome. Ya'll missed out.
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>>377606542
>abortion
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>>377606641
I didn't use any buzzwords at all you dumbshit
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>>377604910
>but if you want to spend hours a day playing video games, then don't have children.

This. There's nothing wrong with still having a hobby. Take time out for yourself sometimes!
But once you're in a relationship, and then definitely once you're married with kids, you have higher priorities that need to be met beyond "I wanna play CoD for hours every day with my buddies". It's called growing up. And that's not some hurr durr edgy shit. That's just how life works.

That said, everyone still deserves their Me time. That amount of time just goes down when you get into a relationship, more when you get married, and way, WAY more when you have kids. And this guy was arguably being excessive even for someone who was single.
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>>377606683
Blacks are better living in the West than they do in Africa. Ask any black if they would live anywhere in Europe/the Americas or in Somalia or Nigeria. Of course not every single one of your ancestors is a saint, but overall they're the reason you are here today, and I bet they have struggle more than any of us, which is a merit they have. They lived through harder times than we do. Perhaps some of them even served in war and nearly got killed.
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>be me
>don't watch TV
>instead I play video games
>parents yell at me for spending too much time playing video games
>they watch the same amount of time watching TV as I play video games.

why do people lose their shit over video games and not fucking TV?
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>>377606683
Literally everyones ancestors did something fucked up in the past, it's not the same thing at all. Nobody's family tree is clean in that regard. Completely fallacious argument.
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>>377606920
>being vastly outbred by white trash scum.
It's true but it doesn't really matter because quality > quantity every time.
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>>377605503

Unless you got a awesome spouse, having a kid is in general a lot of work, at least till they get to school age or you can indoctrinate them into the hobby..
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>>377606772
criminals are often fatherless or had poor relationships with their fathers, a kid needs a father figure
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>>377607013
I loved my dad, doesn't mean I'm going to ruin my life to deal with a parasite.
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>>377607150
Permavirgin spotted
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>>377607065
There's just a disconnect over it. They don't play videogames, they watch TV, but since they're the parents obviously they're doing the "Correct" thing and as a child you're put into the other category of "Well this HAS to be wrong since we don't do it."

It's just a weird thing that spawned from the generational gap introducing a whole bunch of technology.
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>People who are seriously unstable/have serious mental issues yet still decide to raise a family

Why would you do that to your offspring
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>>377607065
>why do people lose their shit over video games and not fucking TV?
There's still a stigma around gaming, probably because many aspects of it are still incredibly cringeworthy and infantile. I agree with you that people who watch Netflix and basic cable all damn day aren't doing anything more productive with their time, but gaming is an easy "LOL look at this nerd!" scapegoat.
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>>377606825
There's no guarantee anyone will use your donation. Worse than that, you'll never meet your descendants, you'll never make sure they're raised in a good way, you might be just giving it to a single mom spinster who'll raise the next Ted Bundy with your DNA
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>>377607065
Because they're old and you're not. Why do people still use this shitty argument?
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>>377607013
Good for you, anon. Nice to know there's a little good out there in the world.
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>>377606456
You'll also age and wrinkle away.
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>>377607102
You're probably right there.
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>>377605018
I've never really understood why so many people's goal is just "get married have kids". How fucking underwhelming is that? I'm not saying don't get married and have kids but c'mon pursuing a successful career or making something that matters is much more fulfilling.

I genuinely think it's the scapegoat of underachieving normies, they have no passions in life and the o my way they can claim they contributed something to society is by saying they have a family.
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>>377607102
Keep saying that once the race dies off completely you fucking moron.
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>>377606456
Literally everyone ages and looks ugly when they're old.
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>>377607139
Yes but changing diapers isn't being a father figure. That's why I don't think dad needs to do much until they're old enough to talk at least.
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I'd gladly spend the rest of my days living comfortably and playing vidya. Fuck having a family.
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>>377607201
Jokes on you, I'm divorced.

Funnily enough, one of the reasons we divorced is because I was sterile.
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>>377607013
My Dad isn't always the most understanding person, but I'm glad to have been raised by him. He set me straight to a point where I feel like I have legit moral advantages over other millennials.
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>>377606948
Just because he likes living doesn't mean he has to live how YOU want him to. Fuck off!
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>>377607201
He's right, my dad could have been an amazing athlete, but he wasted his best years raising a child. That dude is going to have some death bed regrets. Know that for damn sure, even if he claims otherwise.
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>>377607116
>marrying someone you don't find awesome
I swear most people get married just to meet some retarded status quo and not because they actually appreciate the person's nature.
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Convince your family or friends to have babies and experience the good parts of having children without dealing with the time consuming shenanigans.
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>>377607394
>He's right, my dad could have been an amazing athlete, but he wasted his best years raising a child
I;d regret raising a fucking turbonerd faggot like you, too.
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>>377607334
The term for that is "Breeders". People who have no ambition or skills or redeeming qualities to stand on their own merit, so instead they make their life "Accomplishment" to squirt out a few more kids and hope that they'll do better.

Unfortunately that's all some people can hope for.
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>28
>just want a girl for having sex, don't care about having kids

Guess ill just wait a few more years , until im 33 or something, and fuck dumb college bimbos .
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>>377607378
>feeling like you have the moral high ground
Good to know you're a cunt
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>>377607334
What's the point of a successful career if you don't have your own family to give it to as legacy? Is your plan to give your hard worked gains to the government? I'm sure they'd love that. Bear in mind the quality of sperm declines with age, so if you wait until you're 50 to have kids, you'll have issues, so if you're too late you might run into regret.
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>>377607215
Because society says you """must""" have kids of you're an overgrown manchild with no ambition apparently.
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>>377607473
Oh cool this bait image is relevant.

It's usually not.
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>>377607373
Did you have a vasectomy or were you just naturally sterile?
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Attain enlightenment any way you can.
If you get it trough raising a family its fine, if you get trough playing videogames all day and consuming media until you die its fine too.
No one can judge you but yourself.
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>>377607334
>I've never really understood why so many people's goal is just "get married have kids"
Some people are breeders, anon. Especially small town conservatives. I used to live in one of the reddest counties in America and plenty of people my age got married at 20/21 and had kids by 22 or so because they saw no other purpose in life. That, or they had kids to fix their shitty marriage or relationship.
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>>377607520
>What's the point of a successful career
To make your own fucking life enjoyable?
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>>377605758
You sir write like a true polite gentleman. Ignore the plebs. You are amongst equal men of mind!
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>>377607454
>assumption based on no information


'lol'
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>>377607565
Had a vasectomy when I was 22.

It hurts like hell, by the way.
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>>377607102
Except in a democracy where they can vote for gibs
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>>377607463
>Unfortunately that's all some people can hope for.
No, that's most people. If you can't have empathy for most people you're a psychopath. Procreation isn't the highest possible aim but it is important.
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>>377605758
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>>377607065

It's likely because they just realize they never fucking see you because you are playing video games the whole time you are home and don't take part in anything else around the house.
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Oh 8ch's MRA crew.. never stop bringing entertainment!
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>>377607520
Thank god you people exist, it's the closest we have to legal slavery. Keep on working and breeding and raising more workers though!
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>>377607652
>If you don't want kids you don't have any empathy
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>blog post thread

These threads are strange because the people participating put some serious effort into trying to make other people feel like shit for no particular benefit

Why?
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>>377607705
>t. Commie faggot
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>>377607725
That's the /pol/ mindset, if you don't procreate you're a race traitor who deserves to be put on a cross

God forbid people want to do other things with their lives
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>>377607618
What about when you're old, are you fine with being alone with no one to take care of you? I remember hearing from nurses who worked in terminal sections of hospitals, the people who were childless were filled with regret, while people with their sons and grandsons around had a serenity to themselves, they were like mission accomplished, I can die now.

Just some food for thought
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>>377607463
Most of us are products of breeders...
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>>377604910
>I'm not "that guy" who thinks adults can't have fun, but if you want to spend hours a day playing video games, then don't have children. Once you have kids you no longer get that luxury. You just have to deal with it.

I agree with that, but what always pisses me off is how this mentality seems to only be applied to video games. You don't see any news reports about fathers who hide themselves away doing other shit and missing family time. No one complains about the guy who spends 18 hours in his mancave watching sports or whatever the fuck else. But video games, oh, they're a problem.

My dad, for example, builds models. Model planes, model trains, model cars, and has an obsession with football. When I was growing up, when he wasn't at work, he was doing that. Sure when we went on family outings he was there and involved, but when we were all at home we rarely saw him. My mom didn't mind though, because my parents are strange and old fashioned. They believed it was mom's job to run the house and take care of the kids, and dad's job to go to work and make money. When dad came home, from working all day, he was to be left alone unless he invited our company. My mother never objected to any of this.
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>>377607520
So the career is pointless if you don't pass it on? I'd say its not pointless since the POINT is that it benefits you and your life, not someone else's. What retarded thinking is this?
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>>377607520
Eventually we'll get cloning, then we won't have to roll the dice breeding with some dysgenic cow.
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>>377607652
It's cool, I'm sure you and your shitty kids working at my local grocery store in ten years will make my checkout process smooth as hell.

Someone's gotta' keep pumping worker ants out, huh
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>all of these faggots in here telling me to breed when they don't know I'm brown
What are you gonna say to me now?
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>>377607705
how about this, you don't have kids, so when you want to retire, thank to the population decline going on, you'll have to work harder because hey couples are having 1,2 kids these days and there's nobody to pay for your shit, it's partly your fault for the population implosion
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>>377604910
I have a 7 months old daughter and while i have a lot less time for gaming, I still can spend a couple hours a day on games. It's enough for me honestly, I'm 28 now and if I play too much per day I end up bored as hell anyway.

I also never wanted to end up an old manchild without a family. Imagine being 45 and seeing men your age with proud families, but all you got is video games. Might as well just kill yourself.
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>>377607893
Nothing. Not all of us are easily butthurt stormbabbies.
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>>377605018
I don't understand how people who do even cope.

You work all day, then you come home and work, then you relax for an hour before bed if you're lucky and repeat.

How the fuck do you not kill yourself?
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dumb question but its an odd commonality a lot of people share on here for whatever reason:

To you NEETs browsing, did you have a present but personally/emotionally distant father?
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>>377607397
I'm going to agree with you on this. I see too many people diving head first with blindfolds on.
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>>377607842
Shit whatever, we all die. We all gotta go back to that great nothing we came from. I get that it 'matters' but it doesn't matter.
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>>377607893
stop _____
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>>377607935
By not having a shit-tier schedule. I'm home from work at 5:15 and have fuck-around time until 11.
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>>377607728
Because making others feel like shit makes you feel not so bad about your void empty failure of a life.

That, and some people are just assholes. Like myself.
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>>377607947
No, my dad and I went fishing every month until a couple months before he died.
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>>377607947
No, my father's a complete mental fuck up who's attacked me, my half-brother and his ex-wives. I'm glad he's not present and I'll take great fucking pleasure in pissing on his headstone.
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>white people are the best! We should kill niggers and gooks to preserve our race
>tfw never gonna have kids, enjoy your divorce cucks! I'll stay free and enlightened!
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>>377607842
What exactly are you getting all the money and refining your abilities, progressing in your career for? All for yourself? What do you do,you come come from work and watch TV/browse the web by yourself?
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>>377607962
We all "die" but we live on via genes or memes. So if you're not breeding you better be memeing or you really are a dead end.
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>>377607013
My dad hated video games.
Fast forward to now: got him dragons dogma and he loves it
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>>377607397
>marrying anyone

Do you think because you find someone awesome she won't just dump you for another chad and take half your shit with it?

I have no compassion to any men who divorces. You had it coming.
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>>377608132
But I'm not a retard from /pol/

I'm just a regular, educated guy who knows better than to sacrifice his own happiness just because society thinks everyone should be a father. I much prefer being happy, thanks though.
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>>377607905

>7 Billion billion people on earth
>Better shit it up with my useless kids and increase the carbon footprint

The fact you are on here, this very site, means there is no future for your children
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>>377604489
For the past thirty years, having lived in 4 different states, I've been told repeatedly by men that I've known personally and have just happened upon, to never get married and never have kids. I wish this wasn't true but I cannot think of a single piece of advice more commonly given to me by random strangers and casual acquaintances than those.
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>>377607778
If I ever get to the point where I need to be put in a nursing home I'm blowing my brains out.
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>>377607962
Nice non-arguement deflection retard. If you can't even defend what you just said then don't bother posting.
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I'm glad I'm sterile
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>>377608050
Then you probably don't have kids if you're free until 11.
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>>377605591
>>377606694
I like how men have no reproductive rights whatsoever
a woman does the same exact thing in the fashion of wrapping her legs around the guy to impregnate herself and milk him for child support whether or not he wants a kid and its 100% legal too
I know you made up >>377605591 but it really made me think.
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>>377604489
>>wife takes away games
Fucking cuckold
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>tfw my dad has always been a huge gaming nerd himself, now he has a cockpit in his basement he built himself and plays flightsims

>tfw watched my dad play half-life, quake, duke and doom during childhood

>tfw my parents divorced and my step father hates games
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>>377608240
>falling for this dumb alarmist propaganda
Yeah dumbass don't have any kids, let the Rockefellers, the Soros, the Al Gores of the world have plenty of kids though.
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>>377607905

Imagine being 45 and divorced with a shitty family. It's a roll of the dice. You can raise your kids good and lose it all real fast.
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>>377608227
Yes anon, your supreme intellect lets you truly see what the sheeple won't. Keep spreading the good words of wisdom. There is only one objective form of happiness after all, one you have attained!
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>>377608240
Damn what a bunch of leftist bullshit
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>>377608156
But for what reason? When you're born, you see. moves, and when you die It stops. What happens prior to and after should be irrelevant to the person returning to nothing. It feels circular. I don't get the value being argued.
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The best friend of my gf won't stop trying to fuck up our relationship (mostly because she wants me).
>you've been together way too long
>you guys need to "experience" other people
>enjoy life
>oh but enjoy it with me tho!
What the fuck do I do
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>>377604489
women working is the most retarded shit ever
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>>377604489
>blue eyed wife

That woman looks awful, the guy looks great he could lose some weight and get a younger girlfriend(male) no problem.
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>>377608413
Anon, who are you fooling? The only reason people have kids in this day and age is because they think they need it to be happy, or they fucked up and had kids by accident.

I already have my own happiness. I don't need to be married or have kids to feel content with life because I'm already there. Having kids would mean LITERALLY sacrificing my own happiness, and for what? For nothing, just to give into peer pressure? Hell fucking no, I will pass.
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>>377604489
>/pol/ btfo
Kill yourself, regressive leftist
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>>377608471
Kill yourself
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>>377608471
she's a fucking slut, tell her to get the fuck out, she's a degenerate to boot

>enjoy your life

that's what degenerates with no aim in life say, always
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>>377604489
>When should men cut back on gaming?
Probably when he has responsibilities. Like having a fucking child.
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>>377608349
>Let the wealthy educated well off productive members of society have plenty of kids.

....am I supposed to disagree with this?
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>>377608395
That's just life.

I can't just sit on the chance of having a shitty family and waste my chance of having an awesome family because of that.

That's just defeatism. Sad,
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>>377608151
What are you even rambling about? Having a successful career is to better your own life and give you satisfaction, passing it on isn't the point unless you only think about retiring/dying from the get-go. I'm done replying to this bait btw.
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>>377608227
>who knows better than to sacrifice his own happiness

This is why you'll always be a selfish beta male.
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>>377604489
only when it starts harming your ability to live a fulfilling life or hurting the people around you. otherwise play as much as you want
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>>377608471
kill her
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>>377608240
>Le 4chan is a super dark placee xd
Mate, this place is close to insta levels of being normal
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Why are self hating liberals always so selfish

The irony is that they want communism
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>>377608431
When you die, what's left of you is what you did in this world, how you acted to others, and your family is a part of you who are still living in this world, your lineage.

You know back then, surnames didn't exist, people were called "John, the son of Peter" this kind of deal. If you die and leave no descendants at all, then you'll truly be forgotten.

However there are people in the world who researched their family trees and discovered how they're descendants of prominent people, how their ancestor was a great blacksmith and shit, those old people aren't bones, they're remembered.
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>>377608289
I didn't present an argument it was a question you buffoon.
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>>377608660
lol there's nothing more beta than shitting out some kids and becoming a slave to some bitter woman who believes she should have done better than you from the getgo.

I live my life the way I want, and I live a life I'm very happy with. Nothing more alpha than that, bro.
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>>377608571
He works and provides for his children. He's meeting his responsibilities.

The bitch complaining is supposed to be mothering the kids.
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>>377608530
>I'll speak for the whole humanity on what is the correct and only way to happiness! Disagree and you're just brainwashed by peer pressure!
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>>377608413
The fact that you feel the need to attack him after he made a rational, calm post just shows your own insecurities.
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>>377607342
He cant because the race died off, I dont know what the fuck youre trying to prove
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>>377607013
and you still turned a faggot
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>>377608530
You dont just 'have' happiness. Happiness is an emotional state and that changes all the time. The poorest of the poor can be happy sometimes, maybe even more often than the richest of the rich. Life goals are not related to happiness. Try being an interesting person rather than be a feigned happy one.
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>>377608762
I never said anything like that. Hey, if you think having kids is what you need to do to be happy then more power to you. But that's not MY happiness. MY happiness is something I already have, and I'm not giving it up just because bitter retards on /v/ want me to share in their misery with them.
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>>377608730
>Back then
Surnames have existed at least for 2000 or so years, anon
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>>377608518

She looks good for having birthed three kids that she seems to solely look after. Yeah go get a younger woman, Jamal.
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I used to be a nihilistic cynical guy who needs nobody. I was 15 years old then
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I will say thay as you get older you become more and more interested in having children. Generally once women become 30 if they dont have children they drop almost everything and begin working on that. Even for men, as you age you hobbies and work become almost completely unimportant and time spent with your family becomes the most important thing for you.
Only saying this for the retards that think "hurr ill get a vasectomy" dont do that. If you dont want children youre more than likely not prepared for them anyway. Also dont be a selfish cunt that has a kid on a whim.
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>>377604910
Might as well just kill yourself then
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>>377608842
>You dont just 'have' happiness. Happiness is an emotional state and that changes all the time
In your opinion.

I'm always happy with my life. I never feel sad or worried or anxious or depressed. I'm happy because I live the life I want when I want to live it. Sorry you will never know what that's like.
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>>377608580
let me tell you something, a family means POWER. Those Rockefeller types, globalists who want to push agenda they don't want you to have kids, while they have their dynastic families, they already have kids lined up to keep fucking the world up.

THe romans already knew families created power, so what did they do to slaves? They made slaves unable to marry, so they'd never be able to pass on a legacy to their sons, even if it's a simple tool like a shitty hammer.

There's a lot of propaganda about how a family is bad and all that and you're buying it wholesale. A family can be ther for you, help each other out and so much. An atomized society with a bunch of loners is much easier to control. A family is a unit of power.
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>>377608892

and now you are a fagget that faps to trannies and babyfurs, hope your dad doesn't know you are this gay
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>>377608756
>lol there's nothing more beta than shitting out some kids and becoming a slave to some bitter woman who believes she should have done better than you from the getgo.

Assumptions on top of assumptions. I'll do my own assumption; you've been burned by a woman.

>I live my life the way I want, and I live a life I'm very happy with. Nothing more alpha than that, bro.

A life lived purely in pursuits of pleasures is completely wasted. One day you will snap out of this selfish mindset and regret wasting your time sating yourself jacking off and playing video games in your free time.
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>>377608730
I'm not against having children, but this kind of stuff doesn't matter at all to the common person, maybe if you are from a respected family, but for most people we're nothing and we'll return to nothing
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>>377608896

Turned 30 a month ago and still no desire to have kids.
Especially no desire to drop everything and work towards it.
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I want peace and fucking quiet and I want a bunch of kids too.
>conflicted
I don't mind, i'll just keep being myself
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>>377608756
I don't have a fedora big enough for you, mgtow rep.
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>>377604489
so let me get this straight
there are 3 kids and he works
So I would assume that he is only one working and mother takes care of the kids
So after a long day of work, instead of letting him just do whatever he wants to relax she nags him to spend time with her
This is how you get depression, you come back from work and still can't do do what you want.
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>like the idea of impregnating someone
>don't like kids tho
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>>377608240
That's so ironic considering you wish for no future anyway

why do so many people adopt this regressive mentality is beyond me

It's a social cancer
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>>377608842
>That's not REAL happiness!

Are you a thiccfag by any chance? Also nice armchair philosophy with the 'rich in heart' bullshit. Do you have pamphlets you copy this tripe from?
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>>377608868
Try reading the Bible then, they don't say here's Jacob Smith, they say, here's Jacob, the son of Isaac. here's Isaac, the son of Abraham. Here's Joseph, the son of Jacob.
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>mfw when /v/ would be a cool Dad
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>>377608947
Well, then you arent human, and arent worth mentioning.
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>>377608717
Yet you see "Fuck having kids and wife" posting on 8ch too. I think white people simply turned retarded about 2 decades ago
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>>377604910
>I'm 30 years old and can't imagine having kids
I bet you're virginity is safer than the Pope.
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>>377608976

What the hell is having a kid going to do to stop your life being wasted?
You're going to die and be forgotten either way.
Most people don't even know their grandfather's full name, and that is how his legacy is going while he is still alive.
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>>377604489
>It will be at least 5 years before I am stable enough for a relationship that could even possibly turn into marriage
>Need to finish school and get a real job
>All I want is a proper wife who gets me she does not even have to be super hot
>Last girl who fit this turned into a nagging bitch who would always try to put me down
>Aborted my child
>Now I always wonder what that kid would have looked like when I see a baby

It feels bad Anons I just wanted a my own family
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>>377609089
>You aren't human and don't matter because you aren't miserable
lol
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>>377608861
You seem to revert back to making this all about you when the topic is much more than just you. Are you self absorbed?
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"I don't want kids, I'd rather just do what I enjoy."
>Haha, oh anon, you will grow out of your edgy nihilistic phase one day. Getting married and having kids is what REALLY matters.
So I can either be nihilistic and only do the things I personally find pleasurable and fulfilling, OR I can decide that my happiness is contingent on having the approval of people I will never meet and satisfying primitive urges which will preclude me from doing the shit I actually want to do?

>B-but don't you care about passing on your genes? About continuing your legacy??
Nope. Why should I? To be remembered? Do you know the names of all your great-great-grandparents? How about their great-great-grandparents? Or do you believe that when you die your consciousness is somehow transplanted onto your child's and you get to live forever?

If you don't have the intellect to see through your biological impulses for the trap that they are then I genuinely feel fucking sorry for you. You will most likely lead a life of misery and spend all your time convincing yourself that it's all somehow worth it in the end.
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>>377608730
This is the part I don't understand

>When you die, what's left of you is what you did in this world, how you acted to others, and your family is a part of you who are still living in this world, your lineage.

The relevance of this is overshadowed by the return to nothingness. It takes precedence over everything else including legacy. I see you giving value to something you learned about while in this world. (Family/historical standing).
But these are things that other people see after you yourself return to nothing. It's all unimportant to the 'nothing'.
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It is hilarious how the natalists try to argue with the antinatalists, the latter of whom are like an enemy in the middle of war threatening to commit suicide. It's not just the antinatalists who shouldn't reproduce, then, but even many of the natalists, such as for instance all those who try to argue with the antinatalists.
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>>377608561
>muh degeneracy
You don't belong here
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>>377608992
one day you'll grow out of the baby's first nihilism phase anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlC2OdnhIiQ
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>parents are currently in their 50s
>mom works a shitty factory job, dad is unemployed for years now and refuses to get a job
>mom and dad hate each other, fight all the time, every time I talk to them on the phone or visit them they can't go five minutes without literally screaming at each other
>sister basically disowned them because they threw her out on the street and left her homeless
>brother is useless and won't leave the house, is 20 dropped out of high school, never had his first job
>literally nothing but misery, unhappiness, and poverty

I don't want kids because I'm too scared I'll be a repeat of my parents.
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>>377609101
That's what multiple generations of comfort does to a society
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>>377604489
>4 hours a day
What the fuck do they even talk about?
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>>377609206
Anon, this is real life. This is the real world. You only get ONE life. I'm not wasting mine being miserable when I could be happy instead.

What the fuck is so wrong about being selfish when it comes to a basic necessity like happiness? Sorry that my happiness is non-negotiable, but you will just have to deal with it.
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>>377609070
You cant be happy 24/7. From the most intelligent to the most powerful people on earth arent happy all the time. Being happy all the time isnt a sign of greatness or success, its a sign you failed at pushing yourself to do something greater. Its what losers and betas tell themselves. Sure, kids arent for everyone, but saying you are 100 percent happy all the time is a loser's input and boring.
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>>377604489
If my wife looked like her I'd spend all day in the basement too.
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>>377608240
Take your own faggoty nihilistic mindset through to its conclusion and fucking kill yourself then faggot.

Oh what's that, you won't? Seems you don't actually believe the shit you're spouting then. Get a fucking clue retard.
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>>377608973
I don't have a family though. There's nobody left to be ashamed. This is true freedom. You'll never know it's sweet taste until you've killed your parents and extended family.. I pity you...
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>>377609215
>If you don't have the intellect to see through your biological impulses for the trap

You are a pseudo intellectual fuck who obviously has no idea what he is talking about and should not be taken seriously.
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don't get married or have kids before at least 27

Don't wanna tell ya how many times I heard this meme in community college. Had 4 married women hit on me wew and then dads/m oms complain about kids.

23 atm with 5 figgies in the bank
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>>377609000
so much this, I'm conflicted as fuck about it, everybody I know who has kids seems fucking destroyed from the inside, they seem to always be unhappy, and all they care about is about their kids, a lot of them can't even talk about anything else, its odd
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>>377604489
Living in the city all my life I couldn't fucking function in suburbia. Everyone moves so goddamn slow I feel like I've tapped into the speed force. Something as simple as checking out at the grocery store takes twice as fucking long and everyone needs to stop and chat about irrelevant shit when other people are waiting.
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>>377609247
>((((((((((Frankl))))))))))
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>>377608896
28 here, work fulltime and support myself alone. I have 9 solid hours of free time a day and no kids/wife. Hang with my friends every week and am going to tabletop party a bit later today. I'm sure working at Wal-Mart and coming home to your hellspawn that will carry on your "legacy" is very fulfilling. Can't say I'm feeling the biological clock at all myself!
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If you want a relationship but don't want to have kids why don't you just go full gay?
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>>377609078
And of course the retards falling for it is biblefuck
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>>377609309
Do you feel your mom and dad wasted their time living their lives for you rather than just getting sterilized and living their lives to the fullest?
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>>377609225
>baby's first try at being analytical
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>>377609510
Because being gay isn't a choice. I'm sexually attracted to women, not men.
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>>377609510

Because dicks are gross.
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>>377609168
>You're going to die and be forgotten either way.

Oh woe is you, why don't we all just kill ourselves right here and now because in a million years nobody is going to remember us waahhh. Who cares about fucking anything? Nothing matters we are just le pale blue dot wow I am such an intellectual.
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>>377609314
Whatever helps you sleep at night, dude.
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>>377605591
This killed my sides
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>>377609501
>walmart
try to hide your projection a little bit more next time
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>>377605318
found the nihilistic, intellectual virgin who argues on /v/ by posting anime pics
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>>377608956
Go pump out babies then. Why are you wasting your babymaking time here? Unless you can't and are just powerlessly whining about the invisible rich overlords.
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>>377609217
>nothingness
Clearly not even if you're extremely materialistic, what people put in their tombstone?
Anon, who is outlived by his son, his daughter his brothers.

Your children are your legacy and they're a part of you. Part of your DNA is in them, just as your ancestors live in you with your DNA, nothing can ever break this blood link.
>>
Marriages fail so often because humans aren't supposed to stay with one partner. It's not natural.
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>>377608947
>Sorry you will never know what that's like.

I know exactly what it's like because I lived it for years. You're lying to yourself and will just completely dismiss me telling you this but I know I'm right. If you're not a complete fuckup you'll snap out of it eventually. Good luck man.
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>>377609541
I was the last-born child, raised in a family that already existed. They didn't live their lives just for me, they lived it for the family, and I was simply along for the rid. And, frankly, my father was a retard who got sent to prison then never contacted me more than once after getting out. So no I don't really view him as someone who "lived his life for me."
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>>377606714
>le cringe

Fresh cringe memes straight off the reddit upboat.
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>>377609549
>>377609565
Browse /d/ long enough and that'll change!
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>>377609565

Says you.

>>377609501
>have a disability
>never want to have kids because of said disability being able to be passed on

Feels good, man. Double-so with being gay. Evolution cancelling me out despite my father wanting me to have kids? Thank you, mother nature.
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>>377609623
the truth is hard to swallow isn't it?
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>>377608240
Africa and the middle east should stop having so much children then. Funny how a regressive like you would target countries with birthrates hovering near or below 2.1% yet ignore the the parts of the world where it is as high as 5%
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>>377608561
>enjoying your life is degenerate propaganda
>freedom is degenerate propaganda

Honestly at this point I'm wondering what it is /pol/ is trying to tell me to be scared of.
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>>377606232
>i dont like anime
>i like anime girls

???
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>>377609623

Okay, so why should one have kids instead of doing what they enjoy if it does not matter then?
The guy was talking about having kids meaning something when you are forgotten by descendants that are around while you are still hanging on to life even.
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>Not becoming a white monkey in asia
>Not working a fraction of the hours for 3 times the pay
>Not becoming upper middle class for doing what is basically a part time job before moving on to real work
>Not taking girls on date in malls while working for that very same mall that pays you to simply walk around and make the store look nicer
>Not easily sending you kids to college without a job that makes you a slave
>Not streaming while you play vidya to make that extra white monkey money from westaboos
>Not coming back to your home country any time you want with a wealth of even higher paying job available due to your international experience which was basically a paid vacation
Fucking morons outsourcing your labor is the way of the future.
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>>377604616
Code Lyoko looking faggots
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13006248/r
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I already got 3 kids (half jap, half rwandan and half norwegian)

I just told the girls to fuck off and raise them alone since I don't care and not living in their shitholes I won't have to pay kid support. That way I get best of both worlds and retain my happiness. Would never impregnate a girl living here though. I wouldn't get away then
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>>377604489

The irony here is the bitch wife spends up to 20 hours a day on fucking facebook which, somehow, is considered better.
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>>377608804
Not him but I Fucked a stripper instead of havin a gf and desu , seeing that my mate has a gf now and cannot even drink a 1 percent beer without being told to stop Wastin his life I'd say fuck children and any gf that thinks they can control you, my mate can't even smoke a joint or come to my place cos his gf hates him having any friends other than herself, don't get chucked into being shackled by a succubus like my mate, have a fuck and leave it at that I'll Im 37 for kids
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>>377609215
You seriously have the mentality I had in my mid-teens. It's really fucking hilarious seeing others espouse the shit I believed back when I was that age because I understand your exact thought process and how you rationalize shit. Comedy gold.
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>>377609770
so I take your parents didn't feed you, didn't change your diapers and did no sacrifices for you, didn't have to work extra to feed you, and son on? Are you grateful they didn't decide to stop breeding before you were born? Are you grateful they didn't get an abortion when your mom was pregnant to you? Or are you too busy self loathing to show an ounce of gratitude?
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>>377609635
Its true though. People here think that them being happy all the time somehow means they are better than those struggling with kids. I know people with kids who are happy and unhappy. Loners who are hapy and unhappy. If you want kids then a kid will make you happy. If you dont, then youll be happy without kids. But it is a fact that most people do want kids. Its that simple.
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>>377609030
The left appealsd to the intellectually deficient, the immature, and freaks with mental disorders.
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>>377609770
Here it is: daddy issues.
Knew the nihilistic gentlemen in this thread had a tragic trauma.
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>>377609623
The truth is devastating, I know.
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>>377609904
are you white?

how'd you do it?
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>>377608185
Sad
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All the pseudo intellectualism in this thread really activates my almonds
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>>377609982
I don't owe my father jack shit for gratitude. My mother did what she had to do with the situation she had, it is what it is.

MY parents have literally nothing to do with this. Tell me, why are you soooo intent on pushing this "everyone must have a family" bullcrap onto me? Why aren't you capable of just accepting that I don't want to share in your miserable life with you? Fuck off
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>>377604998
Not him, but I DON'T want my kids to get their hands on games. I rather raise them to get other hobbies that are useful instead.
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>>377606686

>our prime biological function

Technically it's in our prime biological function to rape but that's looked down on in society. I'm sure if rape was legal we'd have a lot of NEETS out there making families right now.
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>>377606323
This was a huge deal in my best friend's marriage.
His wife would always complain that he never went to bed with her. It's pretty fucking insane and a little self-absorbed if you ask me. I never understood it.

It's alright though, he found out she had been cheating on him during the whole marriage the entire 9 years they were dating (poor guy)
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>>377609970
>LOL Seriously? That's how you think? Really? Lol. Grow up. Seriously.
May as well have just posted "delete this".
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>>377610086
Damn, so you do have daddy issues. Must suck to not having a caring and loving family.
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>>377610069
It's literally the most retarded shit I've seen on the website. Even /lit/ is not THIS pathetic. Maybe this explain why the quality of /v/ is so shit all the time
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>>377604489
>be 44
>have a hobby in between your job and kid
>wife doesn't understand/like your hobby so makes you go to therapy
>have to ditch your friends to get therapy because you enjoy something
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>>377609565

But Bowser is perfect
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>>377609816
>>377610027
Follow through with your "superior" thought process and kill yourselves then.
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>>377610157
>I'm sure if rape was legal we'd have a lot of NEETS out there making families right now.
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>>377610086

Misery love company.
Seeing people be happy while you are unhappy with your life choices causes anger against the happy people instead of your own decisions that made you unhappy.
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>>377609970
It's basically the same phenomenon as when small boys say ''girls are gross'' and end up fapping thrice a day 5 years later
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>>377610020
>>377610182
t. can't win the discussion with an actual argument and have to resort to "B-B-B-BUT YOUR FAMILY"
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>>377610170
I know it was a completely vacuous post, just getting my thoughts out.
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>>377610086
Ah so you have a shitty relationship with your father. Still he is your own blood no matter how shitty he is.

Your mother gave you an example of self sacrifice that you're not looking at. I'm not saying you must have a family, i'm saying this me me me me me that is coming from many posts in this thread is selfish as fuck. Just because your family has issues doesn't mean your future family would end up the same or worse, just saying. Some people that had shitty families end up making up for their childhood troubles by being great fathers and mothers, not all is lost.
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>>377610086
Textbook daddy issues
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>>377610276
nah, I'm gonna die either way, might as well enjoy the ride
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>>377604489
Kid raising and wife-caring cuts back on a lot of free time. I agree with the wife, if the husband was playing for that long, he should have been cutting back on the amount of time he's playing. Or at the least set himself up in a place that's readily accessible, i.e. the living room.

>>377609383
I want kids of my own and I agree with you. Get yourself situated first with money. Racing for a wife or children at that young of an age is pointless.
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>>377610276
but they are perfectly happy all the time anon :^). Playing videogames and shitposting. It never gets old! Happy happy!

No better than retards to be honest.
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>>377606445
>Till then you don't let them out of your sight.
You might not mean this literally, but helicopter parents doesn't raise good kids either.
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>>377610034
Of course I'm white, everyone on /v/ is (and if not then fuck off). I'm just good at getting what I want. I told the jap I wanted to marry her. I told the rwandan I would bring her to my country to raise a family, and the Norwegian I met out on town drinking. Simply poked a needle through the condom and bam, baby magic.
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Yo on some real shit I'm sure a lot of you know this already. You just can't let women get ANY power over you they go crazy with that shit. They start to think your life and your choices belong to them and if you disagree you are disrespecting them. Often they will actively look for fights early in the morning just so they have some drama in their lives. It's much better if possible to have a woman who knows she needs to actively please you at all times and is not sure if she could lose you. It's easier for men just to admit they love someone and devote yourself because yea it feels good but this generally makes your life a living hell after the woman has her hand on your wallet everything just changes.
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>>377610386
Not interested in kids, period. End of discussion. They would bring nothing to my life and only take things away.

Try shaming someone else into living the same shitty life you do because it ain't going to work on me.
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>>377608561
>>377609853
Giving into carnal desires without thinking about their long time effects is degeneracy, this anon is right.
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>>377609904
>tfw I was stationed in Okinawa and had a one nighter with a jap I met at a bar, shortly before coming back to the US
>she posted on facebook that she was pregnant months later

Never did find out if it was mine or not and it bothers the shit out of me.
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>>377609128
>Pope
>Virgin
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>>377610407
Then you don't actually believe the shit you spout and are just a selfish faggot who doesn't want any responsibility.
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>>377605018
If you're not doing it then some dumbass is.
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>>377609383
>"he night brims with defiled scum,
and is permeated by their rotten stench"
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>>377610034
See
>>377609872
If you in college there are connections to get around the world easily although if you major in business or education. Fuck a monkey could teach esl you don't even need to major in education. My friends went places like spain and russia to teach and got a lot of pussy I personally chose the yellow fever route. It seems as though around the world the most popular men are white or light skin hispanic.
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>>377610452
A man with a minimum of confidence will put the woman back in her place and she will love him for it.

That's just how women work. They say otherwise, but they need to feel secure and need some sort of ''leader'' in control of their shit.
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Father of a newborn here. PC gaming is dead to me. I can't get into anything long enough to enjoy it. You almost need a free hand constantly, feeding, burping, rocking or just holding her. Once she gets asleep, my loud ass click clacking wakes her instantly, not to mention the light and sounds right by my face are right by her bassinet.

But console gaming is still easy enough. TV is far away enough that light isn't a problem. Sound is easier to manage too. I can lay back and keep her on my chest (she sleeps better on us than in her bassinet, so we let her lay there when we don't want to sleep too) with both hands free for the controller. Most games can be paused with no problem for feedings/changings. MP games I don't care about losing so I'll just AFK or quit.

I've actually played more since her birth, not much else I can do while taking care of her.
>I've cleared out my xbone/PS4 backlog in 2 weeks. About to hook PC up to TV and just try it with a controller.
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>>377610276
Understanding that things are inherently meaningless doesn't mean you can't have a reason to live. It just means you can define your own reason based in your own pleasure and happiness and not something totally unrelated like what happens after you die.
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>>377610467
Mate I'm 21 had one fuck , skip to me be 99 cos of no children and no succubus, I mean I haven't actually met a lass that isn't a fuxking leech or slag , like I said my mate cannot even go out of his flat other than for the shop he is that fucking whipped, intact I don't hardly talk to him no more cos his succubus gf doesn't like him speaking nor working with me , hope she dies
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>>377604489

Why are people that have kids so triggered by people that choose not to?
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>>377606641
>playing Skyrim on a console in the first place
And that retard has TWO children.
Our species is fucked.
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>>377606056
In the mind of retards who like to pretend that /pol/ is wrong about everything, the sort of retard that thinks of themselves as intellectuals for avoiding /pol/, they feel compelled to show how "obviously" wrong /pol/ is about things.

The problem for these retards is that they always misrepresent what people on /pol/ actually think about any given subject because these retards don't go to /pol/.
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>>377610386

>Your mother gave you an example of self sacrifice

No such thing as absolute altruism. She wouldn't have had a baby without the personal desire for a child. Everything anyone does is for some sense of self satisfaction.
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>>377609714
Legacy is irrelevant to the person who died, because they're dead. They think/breath no more. YOU just gave all those words value. But like the rest of us, when you die, you return to nothing. Legacy has little to do with the before and after. That life shit is just fear materialized. I don't want to talk about that, it's boring and I obviously care more about the subject of death/nothingness then I do about things that are happening on the planet/time.
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>>377610564
how is having a child just because society expects it less selfish than wanting to enjoy your own life?
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>>377610706
Denial of buyer's remorse, basically
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>>377609904
I hope you're happy for not being there for any of your kids. Most criminals grew up with single moms, yet you're proud of acting like a nigger who has 10 kids with 13 different women
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>>377610706
Or in this case, why are kidless furious at people who want/have kids?
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>>377610683
>this is the life of a breeder
sorry for your pain m8

hope it gets better
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>>377604910
My friend is 24 and just had a kid. Barely see him around anymore. Doesn't show up on Steam at all. I think he even stopped playing Video Games.
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>>377610819
What happened to the 3 other kids?
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>>377610702
Date a chinese girl long term
No joke and I mean straight from china. It's really nice and they are very traditional you might find what you want. I hear they are colonizing your neck of the woods soon too.
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>>377610706
Because they have realised they married something other than a woman... otherwise known as a sucubus , literally getting triggered because they have a really really bad forced normie meme life
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>>377605018
>tfw when you fell for the beta cuck meme
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>>377610846
Nah, he's just growing up. People tend to stop playing so much from 25-30 years old
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>>377610683
Don't afk, man. You ruin the game for whoever you're playing with.
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>>377610824

Not mad at them, there is some pity when I see them deeply unhappy.
It is kind of funny to see people younger then me tell me I will understand having kids when I am older though. I swear having a kid puts at least a decade on your face and body.
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>>377610745
>>377610745
So you think all those nights she lost sleep because you were a baby crying don't show how she loved you and wanted to raise you into whatever you are right now? Talk about being an ungrateful fucking prick. Of course helping others and self sacrifice isn't without a certain amount of pleasure, because good moms fucking love their children and would gladly take a bullet for them.
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>>377604910
>Being a shitty dad that doesn't enjoy doing things with his kids
Shit, my dad got me into vidya, books, music/singing, comics, and sports.
If a dad isn't taking the time out to enjoy something with you and lets you develop your own hobbies while fostering your interest in others, he fucked up.
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>>377611038
>It is kind of funny to see people younger then me tell me I will understand having kids when I am older though
It's because society told them all their lives that they need to have kids to grow up, so obviously nobody older and wiser than them could possibly choose not to have kids, amirite
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>>377610946
Point out a single person like this in this thread.
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>missing important life moments
>baby is eating blueberry for the first time

What an amazing life moment, you wouldn't want to miss that show.
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>>377611043
What's your point dude? This was a decision SHE made for her OWN life. It was a decision she made because she wanted to make it.

I choose not to make that decision. Deal with it.
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>>377611149
Ah fuck, meant for >>377610824
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Having kids really made me realise how selfish my whole life has been before. I even had the illusion I cared for others.
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>>377610819
I am. I plan on having more kids as my genetics must be preserved for the future. I won't however lower myself to the level of idiots who willingly chains themselves and never be happy again. Happiness and true freedom is all I care about. Besides, I pick my breeding stock carefully. It's not like I fuck junkies or bad women
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>>377610748
Even with your extremely materialistic point of view, you still are there in memory, people would remember acts you did, especially your children who mourn you.
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>>377607013
>Not wanting children = shit father
Are you a woman?
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>>377611160
Blueberries is trash. Raspberries is the food of gods
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>>377611193
My point is just that you're an ungrateful bastard who doesn't realize your mom could have abandoned you in a foster hope or just put you in a trash bag for some bum to find in a dumpster, or she could have aborted you.

You have a mom who was there for you and you don't value it one single bit.
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>>377611228
There is literally nothing wrong with being selfish
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>>377610738
This. /pol/ may be wrong sometimes, but they are right just as much if not more than often. I mean they got trump elected lmao. Shocking that a group of people might be smarter and more drive than a single intellectual wannabe on /v/ I know.
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>>377610928
Hahaha , maybe probably wouldn't , like only place over here that's not Muslim controlled is easily the shittiest place in the U.K. , most slags ere don't touch you if you ain't got money and especially if you aren't a dirty fucking chav , I'd rather pay for a fuck than have a relationship now too many times I've been fucked over and I'm not even past 25 yet, fuck kids fuck relationships
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>>377611193
>true freedom
You mean your pleasures über alles?

All your endless pursuit of pleasure above all just shows you're a slave to your desires really. Go get your fix faggot.
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Thing is, the less of 4chan that breeds, the better. If they tell themselves they're happy alone too, Its a win win
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>>377611049

My dad never spent time with me. In fact he told me to shut up or be quiet whenever I was doing something I enjoyed.

>play with a ball in the garden
>get told to stop making noise
>talk to friends on skype
>get told to shut up for being too loud
>want to ride my bike
>bike was kicked to shit because it was in his way a couple of days ago
>even eating at the kitchen table was a nightmare because if I made any noise that reminded him I existed, I'd get shouted at

Yeah I don't want kids.
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>>377611379
This thread isn't even about my mother you fucking retard. It's about my decision not to have kids. The fact that my mother chose to have kids doesn't mean I'm obligated to have kids as well. That's fucking retarded logic.
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>>377611475
meant to >>377611256
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>>377604489
>not learning to function on <4 hours of sleep so you can be both a functioning human being with meaningful relationships and play vidya
My sleep deprivation is probably why I'm a manlet but whatever, I have a degree, a job, and a gf
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>>377609565
>not gay
>likes bayo, a whore with tranny face and fucked up body proportions of a man
k
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>>377611503
Nigger my dad's dad used to beat him and my uncles with a fucking hose, hell, he put my dad out when he was 16, you have no excuse.
Just because you had a shitty dad doesn't mean you can't be a great dad, hell, if anything it gives you more incentive to WANT to be a great dad.
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>>377611572
>not learning to function on <4 hours of sleep
You can't be happy without a minimum 8 hours of sleep a night. I know I can't, anyways. That sounds like a miserable life.
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>>377611475
What's the problem? I made kids as you demand, yet cannot make my own choices without you raging? Are you a closet wannabe Stalin?
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>>377611503
so just because your dad wasn't amazing you don't think you can make up for it for your own kids
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>>377610991
Pretty much. I used to play really heavily through high school. Had to severely limit gaming throughout college so I could study, plus I couldn't afford vidya during that time. Now I have a job and can afford it, but even when I get time off, I hardly play for more than a few hours and want to do other things and started having normie aspirations and started thinking about finding a nice girl to start a family with. It's disgusting.
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>>377611475
All your endless pursuit of society approval above all just shows you're a slave to society really. Go get your fix faggot.
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>>377605643
why are you mad that people don't want kids?
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>>377610440
you're doing white allah's work

thank you

How do I follow in your footsteps? I want to breed but I don't want to raise kids, but sperm donor places won't take me because I'm 5'10 (but I have a chadtier face so can get pussy)
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>>377611409
Nah on some real shit you are just unlucky if you travel a bit you will see UK women are considered among the worst. Guys generally do not have a bad rep and do fine but your women holy shit. They literally fuck ANY dude they see in the bar that is willing to take them home and they look like hell. If you were able to travel with that accent you would probably get a lot more pussy from better women. Generally if I'm at a bar late while traveling maybe around closing I KNOW there is at least one British girl with gaped teeth that would be willing to fuck. Thankfully I have not gotten that desperate.
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wow me and this guy should trade places he wants video games I want purpose
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>/v/ defending normalfags, roasties, kids and marriage
This place is beyond saving
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>See this thread
>remember that /v/ is infested with pre-20's

Nothing to get mad about here, carry on.
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>>377610765
What a fucking stupid question. Read over what you typed.
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>>377604489
>Chris said the video games make him feel timeless.

>“When you’re gaming, I mean, you’re ageless,” he said. “The stimuli and the euphoria and just the fun of it. It feels the same at 44 as it did at, you know, at 16. … There’s often a feeling of, ‘I got all the time in the world.’”

That's beautiful.
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>>377611735
Just telling you your freedom is an illusion, you act like a wild animal, me me me me me me still. You're just a junkie who gets off on dopamine no matter where your fix is coming from.

So enjoy your freedom.
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after watching the red pile, i cant say i ever do want to have kids out of fear of having them taken from me.
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>>377608947
This is kind of horrifying, are you some sort of mental case? Being happy 100% of the time isn't human.
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>>377611732
what a princess you are
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>>377611782
Not him but he is just playing the charming foreigner game all you have to do is travel a bit and socialize and you will start to notice women will want you just because you don't look like the men they are used too. I did the same thing but opted for abortions rather than keeping them.
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>>377611764
Why don't you live outside of society then? You're free to fuck off and live in a cave getting your own food and surviving all by yourself.

Quit being a pussy and do what you preach.
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>>377611275
But their memories (for the sake of this conversation, not in a general sense) are themselves irrelevant in the face of that. I think what I just discovered through this exchange is that you place the value life in the amount of years you'll be in the collective minds of others. I see that as a mechanism of fear, but it's unrelated to nothingness, you see it (I think) as a solution to nothingness. World view difference I think. I think eventually memories will be something that can be manipulated, end game for humanity, probably not all that important. Fun convo anon.
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>>377611876
I've read what I typed countless times, I know exactly what I mean, maybe you should take some lessons on reading comprehension
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>>377611961
sorry m8 can't do it

last time I stayed up 2 hours later than usual I was groggy and yawning all day. I need my sleep.
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>>377611748

More like when I was finally rid of my dad I could live freely which is a feeling I've never felt before 20. When my entire life has felt like a prison, having a kid after I've freed myself feels like going back to one. I'm shackled to another person's whims again.
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>>377611714
You used the word hell twice.
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>>377610692
>My thought process can mean I can just live the life of a hedonist and not have any responsibility

How convenient for you.
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My dad turns 52 in a month and he still regularly plays games.
Is this a white people thing?
Do you people really think you can't be a responsible adult and still play video games?
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>>377605318
>>377605018
>>377607334
>>377607935
YES Goys, dont have children, never get married! Just play video games all day, goy.
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>>377611995
lel, I certainly would, that's not feasible though unfortunately
keep being society's sheep
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>>377611879
>It feels the same at 44 as it did at, you know, at 16
I wish playing games would still feel the same, instead i just feel nothing.
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>>377611782
Well, start in poor countries. Tell the girls you like them, flaunt your wealth discreetly at them and hint that you would take them back to your country. Panties go right away. Just use the weaknesses of the culture. Traditional cultures? Imply you want a traditional family. Liberal and rich country? Drink and fuck like you'd do back home and cheat with the condom trick I told you about. It won't work on every girl, but enough to get results.
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>>377612063
never consider getting in the military
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>>377612074
Do you have a job?
If so, you're already shackled to another person's whims.
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>>377612046
You just asked "why is being selfless less selfish as being selfish?"
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>>377604489
>wife takes away games so he can spend that time with family
>starts seeing a therapist for four hours a day instead
Confirmed /ourguy/
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>>377612240

I do. And yes, I know. The first couple of months were ridiculously hard to cope with because of the constant feeling of being "trapped".
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>>377612074
You determine how your kids will live like and not the other way around. If you want to be a gypsy traveling around, there are people who live like this. There are people who have work schedules that involve traveling staying somewhere and doing it again, and some families move like this.
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>/v/ unironically believes you have to drop all your hobbies the moment you have kids

You guys are all a bunch of fucking virgins.
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>>377605503
>wanting things in moderation
>for the luxury of having a retard to provide for
in 2017 it just seems smarter to get a dog
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>>377611894
Thanks bro, I am. Hope it works out for you too
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>>377604489
>letting your woman dictate your life
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>>377604489
>Not being able to do other shit while playing video games.
Also one of my buddies is in the military and his wife is constantly losing money in pyramid schemes. Even though he is the only person making money, he constantly gets yelled at if he tries to play video games. Some women are just plain crazy.
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>>377612143
My dad's 58 and probably has a good 10k hours racked up in Civ 4 which is the only game he plays. He's still plugging away at his job and spends plenty of time with my mom, but just plays a game instead of watching TV with a beer in his hand like a stereotypical dad would. The key is moderation.
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>>377612343
No surprises here.
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>>377611782
All that guy seems to be doing is
>visit country
>Seduce and lie to women
>cum inside vagina
If you know how to do these things you shouldnt have a problem.
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>>377605758
amen brother
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>>377612343
Zero people have even implied this ITT.
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>>377604489
>seeing a therapist for four hours a day
I want to have as much disposable income as that guy.
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>>377612165
Keep being a hypocrite who benefits off society while condemning it. You're just like communists who preach how amazing communism is from behind the comfort of a non-communist country, while cubans jump in shark infested areas to escape it.
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>>377612387
>Some women
You mean all women
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>>377605758
>society tells me I need to have kids
In what society do you live? If you feel pressured by society to have kids you must live in a very isolated religious area.
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>>377612190
Thanks to the over abundance of video games now, it never really feels like the payoff of finishing a decent game is worth it, after weeding through a sea of shit.
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>father is 45 yo
>enjoys fishing and playing vidya
>most of his free time is spent doing either one of those
>mom doesn't mind and just enjoys her free time herself
>occasionally watch a movie togwther or go somewhere together every now and then
Who /coolparents/ here? Never understopd the "people grow out of vidya" meme either. It's like saying people grow out of any hobby.
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>>377610090

Yeah better not give them toys while you are at it. Also no movies or cartoons.
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>>377612414
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>>377604489
>2017
>giving up on hopes and dreams
>projecting them onto offspring instead
They're just going to disappoint you
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>>377607013
Eh the opposite, my father was shit so I wanted kids to try and raise them correctly and end the cycle of shitty parents. Apparently his dad was terrible, who had a dad who beat the shit out of him and his siblings, who had a dad who was a religious nut and just beat and prayed who didn't have a dad.
Each of their rationales were the exact same, I was better than my father, so you should be thankful I'm not worse.
The other trees in my family have problems but not like that.

My autistic sperging came mostly from nurture, once my parents got divorced, I weaponized my autism and ended up becoming mostly normal by the end of college. I remember getting told I was too much of a fag to play football, I'd get hurt but then I'd get randomly whipped for after my dads friends left because I didn't play football and he couldn't tell them any good stories about me. Or the fact no friends were allowed over, and I worked literally nonstop from getting home from school until dinner/bed and all day on weekends, but I got made fun of by him and really the whole family for not having friends. My mom just always said he's doing the best he can and he's a good provider and she'd leave us alone.
In my 30s now, I'm doing good but feel like I could have been a doctor or something great. Have one kid now, but she's too young to fuck up yet, hopefully I don't though.
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I don't think its anyone's responsibility to have children, I would like some of my own though
Don't know why people are getting so triggered ITT
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have children

let your genes live on.
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>>377610090
So you'll dictate to your kids how they should live. The only thing you should tell them not to do is something illegal or drinking alcohol like most kids nowadays do.
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>>377610090
You're as retarded as those who say having kids is retarded
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>>377612251
dude you're putting a kid in this world not because YOU want it, but because you're expected to, this kid is going to be raised like shit due to you not caring enough about him, being a burden on others, adding to this already overpopulated world, it's selfish either way
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>>377612639

Some people have children that were not meant for it, and then get angry at everyone else who does not.
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>>377604910
My dad played games almost every night and he was perfectly fine. I would even watch him play when I was younger.
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>>377612527
The truth is that people often look to society to feel secure and can't look past what is "normal" compared to what they see on tv. It's a bit sad but true.
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>>377610090
implying you get a choice
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>>377604616
how's your father who was going for cigarettes when you're 6, jamal?
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>>377607842
>the POINT is that it benefits you and your life
You are a soulless automaton and I wish you and your kind would hurry up and die so that my children would have more resources. You are not an individual, formed from nothing and sprung forth perfectly from a clam as Venus. You are but ONE dot in a thus-far unbroken chain of fucking, fighting, dying and crying. You are your ancestors, and you will become your descendants. Any man that does not desire children is not yet a man, any woman that does not desire children is less than an animal, just a fucktoy for shiftless boys. The entire point of life is to make more life. Your hedonism, "career", fake success and material legacy will be worth absolutely fucking nothing if you have no heirs.

Get a wife, find a job you can tolerate, and get on with being a functioning man. Unless you're non-white of course, you can keep being a pathetic insect, I don't care about or for you.

I carve out an hour or two a week for video game stuff these days. As the kids get older it gets better because they can go longer before they soil their diapers and eventually they can even participate. Kids is the best.
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>>377612653
Parents are in their full rights to restrict what kind of things they want their kids to be exposed to, not everything out there is a positive influence for kids, this includes a lot of garbage on TV, hollywood and so on.
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In this thread I learned that /v/ is full of psychopaths, mra, special snowflakes and had shitty fathers
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>>377607905
But what if I had fun? What if I spent my life doing what I fucking wanted to do instead of believing in some moral obligation to have children or take a wife?

I'll be goddamned if I'm with somebody and they try to deny me what I enjoy.
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>>377611936
Most people are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They feel lonely and unhappy without having other people around, but having other people around adds drama and misery as well.

Me, I don't have that problem. I prefer doing my own thing and living life by myself. I don't feel lonely, and I don't have any particular need for other people. This allows me to live a life that makes me happy, and I don't have to deal with others dragging me down.
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>>377612465
I contribute to it, how dare I benefit from it as well? Doesn't mean I must do everything they tell me to
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>>377612814
>I'm a psychopath because I don't want children
Sure m8
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>retards think people get kids only because society boogeyman tells them to do so

At what age did you grow out of your angsty phase?
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>>377612701
If you weren't so caught up in your childish cynical mentality you wouldn't see it as "I'm expected to have children by society so it's a bad thing". We all go through our rebellious contrarian stage Anon, if you're lucky you'll see the world a lot differently as you grow up.
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>>377612816
Moral obligation? I wanted to have kids and I didn't pick a crazy feminazi who would force me out of the things I enjoy

You have a very simple concept of things
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>>377612764
>Huurrrrr variation is stupid
>HHURRR function like me or you are not a man
>DUURRR don't form your own opinions or make your own way in life because men do this not that!

Why are you pretending you have any idea what you are going on about?
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>>377612764
This Anon gets it. Only took the entire thread for someone to cut through the bullshit.
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>>377612814
>implying anyone beyond reditors would reply to a thread with /pol/ in the title.
Guess that includes me now though.
I was hoping people would be talking about the social stigma games still have.
Instead people are telling everyone else in the world whether to have kids, as if that even makes sense as a thing to do.
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My parents were both alcoholics, my sister ended in the prison. Most of the married people I know are miserable. I don't see many benefits of marriage. Bu maybe I have just bad experience.
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>>377612773
child you are not allowed drugs
>what are drugs
they are dangerous and evil if i catch you taking them im kicking you out
>trys drugs
>gets kicked out
>parent thinks they did nothing wrong

this cycle will never stop as long as there are retards in the world
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>>377612908
Both sides are dumb as fuck
>Kids are a trap you guys are stupid!
>You don't raise a family you are not a real man!

The truth is a lot of people here just think they are smarter then they really are and use their opinions and facts interchangeably
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>Man goes to work all day
>Provides 100% for the family
>Article and video makes no mention of the wife's occupation which means she has no job aka stay at home mom
>Waaah my husband goes to work all day and then when he comes home he dare thinks he can have time to himself?
>I'm doing ALL the work around the house... ugh my husband does NOTHING!
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>>377612854
>I'm in denial

Cool. You're in for a fucking Earth-shattering awakening if you ever gets past the intellectual level of a 13 year old.
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Kids are gay, thankfully I had cancer and got my baby house removed. Now its smooth sailing all the way to old age. And spare me on the "who will take care of when you're old" shit because you dont know if your kid would up and eave you and you shouldnt be a burden to your kids anyhow.
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>>377613152
>have family of drug addicts
>child makes their own choice to not take drugs
because their parents were shit

this breaks the cycle for one generation

then the cycle starts again because this parent will be paranoid for their child
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>>377607905
>I also never wanted to end up an old manchild without a family. Imagine being 45 and seeing men your age with proud families, but all you got is video games. Might as well just kill yourself.

But I don't want children and I like being able to do what I want when I want. I should kill myself because I don't want what you want? You seem like the child here.
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>>377613248
Anon, why is it that you believe people are incapable of being happy without having others around them?
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>>377612925
nice argument there, you're just spouting whatever other people want you to, apparently we're not allowed to have our own opinions and can't live our lives the way we want to, your opinion is a fact
Don't worry anon, one day you'll get out of the "my opinion is the only one that matters" phase as well
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>seeing a therapist for 4 hours a day is better than playing video games for 4 hours a day even though the former will drain your bank account at lightning speed
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>>377612764
This isn't the Stone Age. I don't care.
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>>377613256
I KNOW my kids will take care of me because they will be half chinese and shamed into it. Beat that mother fucker.
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>>377612905
No, you belong in one of the other categories
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>>377612925
it doesnt make it a good thing
the good thing is the child
and i find them intolerable
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>>377613286
Children copy their parents, it's not that simple. If you tell your child to do one thing but you do other, they'll copy you still. One of those lead by example kind of deals.
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>>377613256
Well if you don't have kids you can usually take care of yourself in comfort with your savings as opposed to dumped into a discount home.

So there is that.
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>>377613181
To be honest I have zero problems with people who don't want kids. What buggers me is when those people come claiming having kids is ''retarded''.

I can't even not shake my head writing this.

but again, I thought the same way 10 years ago. It's just how the continuum of the different perspective people adopt during their lifetime I guess.
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>>377613298
Because I've lived the life you're living right now and I can tell you that the path you're on does not end well. Pick yourself out of the pit you've made for yourself before it's too late.
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>>377613298
He's a normalfag who can't imagine others doing something different than the norm
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>>377613298
It's the way extroverts like him think. They don't understand that introverts can be happy without company and never will.
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>>377612905
Psychopaths never consider themselves as one. They just think it's all about them and everyone else must be wrong
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>>377613298
Human beings are social animals. Being alone for too long literally makes a human go crazy, socializing is part of human nature.
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>>377613440
having kids wouldnt be a retarded idea for men if child support didnt exist

for women its not a big deal because they keep the kid unless they're an absolute druggie, and can get free money for it
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>>377613492
Well it's a good thing I'm quite the opposite right?
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>>377613256
If you don't have any genes worth passing on, you shouldn't. So good job nigger.
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>>377604489
thread made two hours ago

in a few minutes it will reach bump limit

I fucking hate this board so fucking much.
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>>377613245
She is a housewife. Raises the kids and keep the house clean. Does this trigger you, libshit?
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>>377613440
Having kids is retarded if you are not stable it just shows they are not at a stage where they are stable enough to even consider it anything but a burden.
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>>377613486
The funny thing is when they say stuff like intoverts don't exist and that you're just pathetic for not wanting to be with other people most of the time or not go out every other night.
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>>377613416
it's your fault for raising kids with no character at all
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>>377613529
>>377613457
One day, when you get older, you will understand that not everybody has the same needs that you do.
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>>377613396
I'm not Chinese and know my kids will resent you and plot ways to kill you to end their shame.
I'd rather not have kids who start treat you as such because you've gotten older, and trust me whatever other half they are, will show.
I get to know I'm not rolling the dice genetically, didnt spread cancer to my children and stopped the spread of that disease at least in my line. I dont have to beat that, I know I won for myself :)
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>>377604489
>letting her "take away" your games like you're a fucking preteen again
>that cuckface
I guarantee she's getting railed by the neighbor every time he goes to (((therapy))).
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>>377613293
just goes to say it wouldn't make a difference for anybody
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>>377613409
thinking kids copy their parents is naive

every human is a reflection of their choices and consequences

the only similarities to their parents is because the majority of choices they have in life come from what the parent will offer
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>>377604489
I'm willing to bet his wife spends more time watching reality television trash than he does playing vidya.
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>>377613529
>Human beings are social animals.
proof?

>Being alone for too long literally makes a human go crazy
source: your ass

>socializing is part of human nature
appeal to nature fallacy.
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>>377613492
I'm an actual psychopath and have to constantly mimic normal human interactions.
I barely felt anything watching both my parents die.

I don't think people that just want to play video games instead of having children are like me.
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>>377613586
No one cares about your autism man. Keep it to yourself.
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>>377613317
>Sarcastic deflection
Eh whatever man, good luck and I genuinely hope you grow out of your mentality right now, not even being snide or sarcastic.
>>377613404
>and i find them intolerable
Well that's understandable then, I'm talking in sweeping generalizations and can't address everyone on a case-by-case basis. The thing I'm arguing against is shithead nihilists and dumbfucks with obvious issues that try and justify their failures, if you just hate kids then that's a completely different story.
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>>377613605
... do you type like you talk or? What kind of sentence is this
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>>377613586
Are you not enjoying all these VIDEO GAMES, anon? This board became shit years ago and it's getting worse. Even places like /a/ are better to discuss vidya than here.
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>>377613662
poor people have limited options so are more likely to end up in a similar situation to their parents
but that doesnt mean the child is copying their parent figure
it just means their choices in life are limited
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>>377613710
>I'm an actual psychopath
Sure you are buddy.
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>>377613640
>know my kids will resent you and plot ways to kill you to end their shame.
Are you some sort of fucking highlander and they need to kill you to inherit your powers or something? Not getting the "plotting to kill you" part.
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>>377604910
Good goyim, the childless life is definitely better.
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>>377613662
yes they do, it's known parent who smoke have kids that eventually smoke, they have researched and the statistics show it, the parents are the role models for children

which is why often criminals have no father figure in their lives, they never had someone to give them morals, a mother figure cannot compensate for the lack of a father
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>>377613658
What do I care? I'd be dead.
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>>377613609

So I take it your surviving ancestors are all living with you under your personal care.
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>>377613578
Thanks friends, that is the way of nature, I'm abiding by that. If more people did pre screening you would see a lot less tards walking around.
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>>377608956
this guy gets it. The products of single moms that populate this board can't understand it because their own families did nothing for them, but I've seen it happen across generations. A strong family unit generates wealth and passes it down, begetting more wealth, stronger individuals, and more measurable and intangible influence over peers.
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>>377613602
men go to work and have actual stress and even danger often

work hard, play hard
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>>377613816
>barely felt anything when he watched his parents die
>not a psychopath
I've got news for you buddy.
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>>377613816

Psychopathy is not a one size fits all thing.
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>>377613838
the chance for smoking only goes up because the choice to smoke has been pushed on the child
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>>377613778
I honestly don't get people like this. Who fucking cares?
The sentence you are replying to me with is not even grammatically correct and by god no one is rewarding you for being an unlikable anal faggot.
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>>377604910

>sacrifice all your hobbies for some cunt you married

found the cuck, boys
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>>377613827
Kids become very angry at their parents sometimes when they feel their life is being put on hold to help take care of an elderly parent. A lot of them secretly wish their parents dead faster so they can live freely without having to take care of you.
In Japan a huge reason a lot of young Japanese dont want kids is because of the burden taking care of an elder is on their social life/dating life.
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>>377604489
>tfw approaching 30 and getting sick of video games
>kind of think that finding a woman and having kids actually sounds kind of nice

too bad I'm an emotionless autist who's never held a gf for more than a few months.
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>>377613707
It's nature anon, some people are more recluse than others but that doesn't change stuff inherent to mankind, why are you on a chinese origami board if not for socializing in a certain way with tons of people? what you're doing here proves me right, a board like this is a quick way to interact with people even if it's with mere words, just as you need oxygen and food, human beings are social creatures, you live in a society, I don't think you're posting from a computer made of rocks you made by banging them up while alone in a cave
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>>377613993
You should probably work on your reading comprehension, then go back and read my full post again. Not just one or two sentences.
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>>377613949
if there werent ciggys in the house the chance of them being able to get a hold of them before 16 is very slim
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>>377613975
I just didn't really get what you were trying to say. That's why I cared? But I don't, anymore. So don't bother.
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>>377613465
>>377613486
>Normalfag
>Extrovert

Holy fuck I'm dying. I've been outside probably less than 10 times in the last year. I've lived the life you dumbfucks are living right now and I've recently come to the realisation that it's been a fucking waste. I did the exact thing you're doing now, trying to rationalize my fuckups by convincing myself I was happy, it'll only last so long.

And I know me saying this won't penetrate the walls you've built up around your worldview in your mind, but you'll snap out of it eventually.
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>>377608161
Me too, we played through Guild Wars together a few years ago too. Dont know what else he plays if anything though.
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>>377613846
hey dumbass I'm talking about your kids throwing you in some shithole when you become old, it's your own damn fault for not teaching them to respect their elders, to honor their father and mother and so on
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>>377613995
I honestly just hope that my life plan works so I would not have to worry about that. When I get old I plan to just chill and teach younger kids. It's a relaxing job I do well that brings in decent income. All i want from my kids generally is to visit sometimes and generally make up my family. Not sure why you be worried about old age now.
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1 in 2 marriages end before the age of 30. Surprised no one posted the speedrunning couple
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>>377614134

Ah, so you are not taking care of them.
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>>377604489
I dont understand your post.
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The truth is I wouldn't mind having a family with a nice girl with good enough looks and personality, but the chances of me meeting and bonding with such a person are pretty much nil in my current environment and it's not a goal that I care about enough to pursue it.
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>>377614094
Is someone paying you to be an unlikable anal faggot? If so how much?

I doubt someone would do this for free.
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>>377612581
Are you me?
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>>377614279
triggered much?
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>>377614185
Oh Im not, but I used that excuse because I've heard it so much from people who breed. They always bring it up and I find it to be so selfish that some of them have kids so THEY wont be alone when they get older. You;d be shocked to find how many people have kids as some sort of old age insurance policy.
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I'm not going to give up the rest of my life for someone else
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>>377614198
Western culture is fucking dead anon the nuclear family is being destroyed in favor of hedonism and sex.
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>>377614230
you're gone full retard, I guess it's better to deflect rather than to face the consequences of you being a shitty parent and your kids growing up to be ungrateful fucks, eh
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>>377613894
It's true. My parents were poor and though they fought alot, they stuck together for the sake of their 3 kids. If they splitted then, I don't think I would now be enjoying a middle class life or my siblings and I being put in college and starting careers like we are now.
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>>377613913
But let me guess, you could also be one of the nicest people I have ever met?
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>>377614338
Well you're a selfish waste of oxygen then.
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>>377614025
>why are you on a chinese origami board if not for socializing in a certain way with tons of people?
I lurk more than I post, I just can't let your stupidity go unchecked.

>just as you need oxygen and food, human beings are social creatures
Once again you're making stuff up.

>you live in a society, I don't think you're posting from a computer made of rocks you made by banging them up while alone in a cave
Living in a society is not a freewill choice.
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>>377614356

I don't have kids anon.
My business is kind of like my child, except I could sell it and retire early I guess.
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377614306
>He does it for the (You)s
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>>377613649

Rightfully so. A woman who is neglected by her man for a trivial video game is easy prey.
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>>377605932
Wife, kid, work week days, spend 6 hours on video games on weekends because I do 90%of things during weekdays.
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>have looked forward to having a family all my life
>mfw realizing it will never happen because the nuclear family has been curbstomped by feminism and the state
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>>377614401
Who put you in charge of deciding how oxygen gets to be used? We are human beings free to live life how we wish. Deal with it.
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>>377614401
Yes, how dare I prioritize my life first. I'm such a piece of shit.
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>>377614312
Well anon if you ever change your mind I can be your surrogate mother. Hit me up.
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>>377610418
>Racing for a wife or children at that young of an age is pointless

Had my first kid at 30. I wish we started sooner. You and your wife just keep getting older, man. You can't whip a 16-year old's ass if you're 60. You can't bend over pick up a toddler the million times a day they require when you have to take pain meds from fucking up your back in your 20s.

Have kids early, when you have the energy and health to physically look after them. Also, your sperm degrades as you age. Old dads and old moms make autistic and otherwise fucked up kids.
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>>377614443
>lurk more than I post
You're still reading people's opinions and posts, why are you here if you think you don't need any human contact at all? Shouldn't you be living 100% free of human contact then?

I'm not making shit up, human beings are social beings, it's called biology, you should check it up.

>Living in a society is not a freewill choice
of course it is, you're free to live by yourself in the wilderness, what's the matter, babby think its too hard to hunt your own food? Can't do what caveman did long ago, you little faggot?
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>>377609701
>Why are you wasting your babymaking time here?
A woman isn't ovulation 24/7 mate, especially when she is already preggers.
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>>377604489
>Get job
>Be primary breadwinner for family
>Need to relax with your hobby for a few hours after a hard day of constant work
>Wife won't let you because 'you're missing out on precious family time'

Fuck that bitch. Let me be really clear about something. There are no precious family moments, I don't even remember the vast majority of my childhood, what little I do remember is meaningless garbage with basically no meaning.

When his wife says he's 'missing precious family moments' what she really means is 'he's not paying enough attention to me and making me the center of the universe every fucking day while also taking care of our kids so I can continue doing nothing like I usually do'.

Working a full time job is fucking tiring, people who work full time NEED a fucking break at the end of the day and on weekends or they end up with overwork and stress related health disorders and kill themselves.
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>>377613830
>To all you racists
>Proceeds to say the raciest shit he could say
Our guy
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I waited till i turned 39 had a secure job and am now a father for a year. I still play a lot by normie standards but just at night when the girls sleep or on my Switch at work.

I can see people being happy and not wanting kids, i wasnt forced by society in any way though as i hardly keep social contacts other than family and my coworkers (at work). If you feel that a kid would not fit your lifestyle dont fucking get one please, you will just (not) raise it an asshole.

On another note all the cringy shit people tell you about the smile of your kid being the greatest thing ever aso., its true.
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>>377613707
>Human beings are social animals.
>proof?
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>>377614493
you're already rationalizing why you don't have kids "wah they'll treat me like shit", then proceed to strawman the fuck out of everything "hurr you should take care of the bones of your family"

Fuck off, retard.
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>>377614732
Goddamn you are getting way too emotionally invested in whether or not that dude is interested in social interaction. There's 7 billion humans on this planet. Odds are some just don't give a shit about sociability. They're called hermits.
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>4 of my friends got married
>2 are divorced
>1 of them cheated, still married
>1 looks okay, also the one I bet my money on

glad I'm not a normie
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>>377614703

I'm in my 30s and in better shape than I was in my 20s at least.
If I was to have kids I would go for a younger woman instead of one my own age though.

A woman having kids after 30 is just too steep a drop-off.
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>>377604489
>Man wants to relax after workdays
>Nuh-uh! That's wrong type of relaxation!
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>>377614595
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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I was already married, had a good life with my wife, but suddenly, one year after the marriage, the social circles in which I was part began to talk about us having no children.
It started to creep into my ex-wife's head, and over time, it was a constant subject for fights.

Before marriage, I had made it clear that I did not want to have children. That's because I have a kind of "good selfishness". It's a feeling: The good feeling to spend money on us (as a couple), to have some time for us, to live our life only.

But unfortunately, socially it seems inappropriate today a couple choose not to have children.

We fought several times because of this, because I do not have the patience to be a father. With children everthing changes, the schedules, the way money is spent, say goodbye to travel or vacation or self education. For example, I intend to do my doctor graduate abroad, which is impossible for someone with children.

At the moment I am single, i have all i wanted for me, all the time too. If I had had children, that would be completely different, and I know that.
I vasectomized, because I do not intend to leave heirs. Another great bullshit of our world today: The obligation to leave heirs to everything that you have built.
Watching the OP video, I came to the conclusion that the guy simply wants to get away from what he had to build, that is, the social obligation to be the father of children has transposed his will to stay in a comfort zone.
In my country, most couples opt for 1 child only, in the US, I realize that it is financially possible to have children, 3 or 4 with a very small age difference, which for us here is crazy, so imagine When all the kids have to go to college almost at the same time?

Having children is a very own choice, not social choice, keep this in mind. No one can make you have children, just you and your wife.
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>>377614802
why not fuck her constantly as a break from work?
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>>377614891

What are you even trying to say?

If you are not taking care of your parents what makes you think your kids are going to?
You really need to set yourself up for old age instead of hoping you can be a burden on your kids.
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>>377614732
>You're still reading people's opinions and posts, why are you here if you think you don't need any human contact at all? Shouldn't you be living 100% free of human contact then?
One sided reading is not socializing.

>I'm not making shit up, human beings are social beings, it's called biology, you should check it up.
You are making it up, and the burden of proof is on you, not me.

>of course it is, you're free to live by yourself in the wilderness, what's the matter, babby think its too hard to hunt your own food? Can't do what caveman did long ago, you little faggot?
The wilderness is still owned by someone, and by extension a part of society. You need food to live, and all land is privately owned, I repeat, it's not a freewill choice.
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>>377614802
>Have a friend who is a cook in a stable job for years
>Used to work at the same place and they pay really well but work people like slaves
>He used to act like i was being a bitch for not just dealing with it
>He has no time for school anymore with the job so never finished college
>Eventually they put so much pressure on him to preform he is doing 3 different jobs he should not be doing
>Even has to go in on days off at times
>at the age of 22 he has a full on panic attack that everyone thought was a stroke
>meanwhile I moved on to teaching kids and my most stressful event is at most a noisy classroom or talking to the parent of some brat

I blame society for making people think you have to put up with these kinds of conditions and treat it as normal
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Honestly if I were that guy, I would bring the vidya to work and play when everyone else leaves at 5. I would lie about having to work overtime almost every day and make up bullshit about having to come into work during the weekends. It could work as long as she isn't the neurotic type that looks at your paycheck for inconsistencies.
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>>377610765
>society
>society
>society

Fuck society, nigger. I didn't make some copies so society would look kindly upon me. This is about evolution. I hope your bloodline dies, I hope when you eventually wake up in a cold sweat and realize your life has been wasted in your forties and you try to impregnate some cow, every single hellspawn comes out more fucked up than the last. I want resources and opportunities for MY children, and all you non-contributing evolutionary dead ends just clog up the system, making me work twice as hard to secure their financial and educational superiority.

kill yourself please.
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>>377615067
Chinks get out.
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why do people keep saying not having kids is globalist jewish propaganda
the only people i've ever heard saying 'dont have kids' are bitter parents with kids
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>>377613256
What's the point of a woman that can't have kids?
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>>377615190
You're still getting feedback and people's opinions, sounds like you need human contact to me.

It's not my fault you don't know the very basics of human biology.

Humans were able to live hunting and shit back then, now you in the current day and age can't live as a total recluse? Sounds like you just don't want to accept the fact you need people to live despite being bitter about it.
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>>377613830
This is why we aspire to gas the kikes.
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>>377615243
i have panic attacks with my job
but its only because i care and want to be the best

you suck it up if you want to climb the corporate ladder

or you find an easy low stress job if thats what you want

its nice

its a choice
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>>377614989
Honestly if I was in that situation and my wife told me to stop playing video games at the end of my work days my response would be "Get a job, you go get a job so I can work less, then I will happily spend that extra time with our children. If not then don't tell me to stop doing what I need to do to relax after a long, hard day of work".

And I would mean it, if my wife actually got herself a part time job so I could be home more I would spend the time with the kids and take care of them. However I won't be told that I'm not allowed to have a hobby by someone who doesn't even have a job.
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>>377615346
I'm white.
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>>377615351

/pol/ has changed this place
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>>377615351
Globalists want population reduction

https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-113-meet-george-soros/
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>>377615335
>I hope your bloodline dies
who the fuck cares about their 'bloodline' this isn't the 1400s
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>>377615498
Brainwashed by communists. Even worse.
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>>377615335
>have no kids that could potentially take away resources from yours
>this is somehow a bad thing
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>>377613830

I be surprised if Israel was still majority jewish in a century actually, with the birth rates between groups and their immigration.
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>>377615594
he's wrong tho, muslims outbreed jews big time in Israel
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>>377615550
>Not being a self-centred cunt means I'm a commie

You're pretty stupid my man.
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>>377615518
>posts some tinfoil shit
literally no influential institution is telling people to stop having children
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>>377615335
It's not a videogame anon.
You are going to die soon and you will cease to exist if you had 100 children or 0.
There is not option to continue playing as your heir or keep the game going in spectator mode.
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>>377615427
You don't climb the ladder by taking it in the ass. That's other people climbing the ladder off your back. You climb the ladder through networking and building marketable skills.
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>>377615427
You are literally sacrificing your own health and comfort for people who only see you as a money making tool. There are ways to work hard and climb without being stepped on you simply want to get ahead by being that body they lets people treat them like that. When there are too many people like that it leads to lower pay and longer hours for everyone I've seen in many times while traveling. Every companies most important resource is the human resource if you are giving youself panic attacks you are directly harming that resource.

It's a choice but it's a dumb one your health should come first.
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>>377615409
>You're still getting feedback and people's opinions, sounds like you need human contact to me.
I'm doing educating you for your benefit not mine.

>It's not my fault you don't know the very basics of human biology.
I'll take this as a sign that you've given up.

>Humans were able to live hunting and shit back then, now you in the current day and age can't live as a total recluse?
Yeah, because society forces you to participate. It wasn't always like that though.

>Sounds like you just don't want to accept the fact you need people to live despite being bitter about it.
Humans don't need other people to live.
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>>377615721
>George Soros isn't influential
Ok :^)
Look up what the Rockefeller Foundation wants about population control, or the Ford Foundation
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>>377615701
Accusing someone who wants to live their own life of being selfish is exactly what a communist would do, my dude.
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>>377615860
You think humans lived by themselves back then? Never heard of tribes? Listen I'm not going to fucking educate you, you're clearly missing the basics of the basics. You think a human lives like cats that are solitary creatures?
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>>377615879
I said institution, not person, name one school of thought influential on the general public that tells them not to have children, and don't say 'overpopulation' because nobody gives a fuck about overpopulation
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>>377605179
that what brothers and sisters are for, I dont want to have kid so I will just love my nephews.
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>>377615926
A communist would demand that you not be selfish, I'm not doing that, I'm calling you an idiot.
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>>377612164
>yes goys, have children so you can use your shekels on their education, college, food, toys, and clothing :^) its a fun experience i swear :^)
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>>377613830
>That pic
In 100 years the west will be rainbow coloured because scientists will have invented devices that can modify your genetic and anatomic structure as easily and quickly as you get a hair cut.

People will change their skin colour on a whim, changing every few weeks to suit their new style, picking outrageous and impossible colours like blue, green and red to stand out.

In 100 years race will be meaningless, not because of some social revolution but rather because science and technology rendered it an obsolete concept.
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>>377615997
http://rockefeller100.org/exhibits/show/health/family-planning

here now fuck off
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>>377616153

The funny thing is people are already using the tech to make their children appear more white.
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>>377616153
>In 100 years the west will be rainbow coloured because scientists will have invented devices that can modify your genetic and anatomic structure as easily and quickly as you get a hair cut.
Yea man, just like how we were supposed to have hover cars by 2015.
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>>377609251
I had a really shitty childhood and my siblings are white trash-tier too. I want kids to do it properly but I'm pretty scared they'll fuck up too.
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>>377605969
>people like you exist
Lmao
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>>377616272
>teaching people about birth control is a brainwashing conspiracy to convince people not to have children
the only person who's been brainwashed here is you
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>Not having children that will take care of you when you're old
Defend this
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>>377616596
it says in your face it's about reducing population, you fucking faggot
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