Why is AMD so shit?

My name's /v/, and the only thing I hate more than AMD is _________!

>>377593584
myself

>>377593548
>is beating intel with ryzen
>will be beating nvidia with vega
Say what again?

>>377593548
bulldozer and extremely shitty gpu drivers (though they got their shit together recently).
That period prob lost them a lot of their marketshare, while allowing their competitors to grow even more

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>>377593548
AMD is back baby

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>1440p monitor
>R9 290

Pretty comfy, anon.

AMD is good though

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>Why is AMD so shit?

They sell $500 CPUs that lose to $60 intel CPUs.

>>377593548
I mean intel pays amd yearly to use the architecture amd came up with... Intel literally buys up tech and marketshare and uses shady deals and promotion to keep said marketshare.. So in that case amd is doing pretty well

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>>377595240
>So in that case amd is doing pretty well

By 'doing well' you probably mean 'hemmorhaging money and not profiting since 6 years ago'?

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Why is Intel so shit?

Because v thinks spending hundreds more on a do I is worth it let it be know these people own iPhones too

>>377593548
Because it only exists to avoid intel to getting a monopoly charge up their butt.

>>377595425
>pentium M 2.4 GHz absolutely wrecking the 4GHz EEs
Netburst was a really, really bad mistake.

>>377595425
>nobody itt remembers the days of netburst

I'm getting a staggering amount of visual bugs on all sorts of games with my RX480. It works great power-wise but there are so many fucking bugs, my literal potato GTX 750 didn't have any of this shit.

>>377593548
>a 290 that was competing with 780 is now competing with 980

yea man

>>377595339
Better than supporting jews

>>377593548
Drivers don't uninstall previous versions, so if you want to avoid any conflicts you have to manually delete all the files, temporary files and registry keys
Also the fucking control panel never works

>>377595623
Every company is jews. If AMD's management could press a button that would give you terminal brain cancer, but give them +1% profit margin for the year, they would unhesitantly press it.

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>>377595425
>pentium

>>377595578
Dont use 17.5.1.. Roll back if youre on it

>>377593548
y u fcking care?

You are not gonna buy AMD anyways. So stop making this shit up.

>>377595682
Oh i mean literal jews not metaphorical jews.. Look into intels israel connections.

>>377593548
AMD is shit, but at least every game that shows it's logo can be played on 2013 PCs at 40-60fps without any day-one-patches and shit.

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>>377595118
oy vey

>>377595760
god dammit

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>>377595919
FUCKING DELET THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zS5qQrvnJA

>64bit 48GB/s card is beating 128bit 112GB/s card

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>377596242
>>377596178
>1280x720
Why?

>>377594148
>(though they got their shit together recently)

It's more like with Vulkan and DX12 the work that would previously be done by the driver is done by the developers so there's less room for AMD to fuck up

They make decent grafix cards.

Their processors will eternally be garbage though.

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>>377596349
Because low game resolution places the majority of the load on the CPU, and high game resolution places the majority of the load on the GPU.

Which is why AMD forced launch reviewers to do 4K resolution Ryzen reviews, because in 4K tests any two CPUs will generally look identical. It hid Ryzen's inferiority.

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>>377596293
>dated benchmarks

>>377595118
>cherry picking that one russian review sit
How desparate are intel shills?

>>377596513
That's Polish you inbred fool.

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>>377596513
That's Polish.

Can anyone recommend a 500$ budget build?

I already have a monitor and am going to pirate W7.

Don't mind using an AMD GPU, but I would rather get mugged by a nigger than use their garbage processors again.

>>377593584
Sony

>>377595578
I have the same issue with my R7 370. An old Nvidia laptop never had these issues before

>>377596804
For $500 you probably want to look for pre-owned stuff. It's the difference between getting a new dual-core or a preowned quad core.

>>377596804
You've never used an AMD processor stop lying you shill

>>377595578
Works on my machine ;)

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>>377597361
AMD is shit.

Bexause they keep making meme CPUs with 50 thousand cores when game developers are still only optimizing their games for 2 cores

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>mfw my friend bought a 390 instead of a 970 due to the 3.5 overblown meme by amd pajeets keeps complaining to me about problems and asking me for help while I literally cannot even remember the last time I have had as little as a single crash in the past few years

You didn't fall for the AMD meme, right, /v/?

>>377596425
Basically you can't see the difference except under very specific unrealistic situations like running at a very low resolution with no other applications running that heavily favor single thread performance in D3D11 overhead above all else.

In real world situations where you're gaming at 1440p or 2160p (the market for $200+ CPUs) and you have a bunch of stuff running in the background (voice chat, video recording, etc) the overclockable mid-range Ryzen chips are going to do about as well as the top end from anybody. Especially if we're talking about modern games using Vulkan.

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>>377597934

>Basically you can't see the difference except under very specific unrealistic situations like running at a very low resolution

Um, no. I play Overwatch on a 240hz monitor. If I use a Ryzen chip I won't get the framerate I need.

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>>377597498
nice pc senpai

>>377598003
>no 1600X
Dropped.

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>>377598003
>240hz monitor

>>377598156
Thanks, I got it at the goodwill for $50 and still feel scammed.

>>377598003
>1080p
>stock clockspeed

Does that really seem realistic to you?
Plus what would be the performance delta with a overclocked Ryzen 1600 and $50-$100 more spent on a GPU?

>>377596804

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ffTN4C

Roughly an idea of what one would look like, but do this >>377597237 and get an older i5, which will also feature slightly cheaper ram and mobo as well. Buying used CPUs is a pretty good way to save cash and it's pretty safe to do so.

>>377598003
>Overwatch
>240hz
the cancer is strong with this one

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>>377598156
Every time that shit get posted i remember how mad i was, at elves design in lotr movies, it is like they made them fuckugly on purpose.

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>>377596624
fake and gay

>>377597758
He bought a card that performs on par with the 980 and doesnt shit the bed when it hits 3.5GB VRAM usage

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>>377595919
>stick a high-end gpu in the amd build
>leave intel with the integrated cpu
>lol this comparison is legit guise :)

Nice try AMJew

>Got FX6350 & HD7870
>No regrets

>>377599414
>6350
>not 8320 for a few shekels more
Why?

>>377599287
>He bought a card that performs on par with the 980

Yeah, right, that's why it gets smoked by the very 970 when you overclock both because the 970 actually reaches stock 980 levels of performance OCed whereas the 390 has FUCKALL oc headroom, amirite? Gotta also love how AMD locks any of the threads denouncing poor driver support on it on their forums.

>when it hits 3.5GB VRAM usage

Literally never happens at 1080p. Now go on and post some pics of games CACHING 1238044561290853461gbs of textures in vram but actively using only a tiny fraction of it. It's not like you would know the difference anyway.

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>>377596624
>>377595118

Day one benchmarks doesn't show the reality. Right now, the ryzen platform and their motherboards have gotten over 8 patches and updates in different areas, every single one brought performance increases.

Pic realated is kinda old, but it shows the point.

>>377599750
>trusting the germans after cultural enrichment

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>>377593548

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>>377599498
If you want to have a good conversation about AMD drivers you really have to go to a Linux board.

The Linux crowd have been able to do more than just bitch about AMD's drivers though, they've actually done something about it. The open source Mesa drivers are so good they're faster than AMD's professionally developed stuff. To the point that AMD and strangely Valve have started hiring the open source devs to work on the open drivers full time.

>>377594148
>shitty gpu drivers (though they got their shit together recently).

Their drivers have been fine since 2009 for most AMD users. And all I've heard lately is Nvidia users have problems with drivers, very little problems from AMD users.

>>377594030
*playing catch-up
Soon Intel is going to be releasing the rumoured i9 and Nvidia will be another generation above Vega with Volta.

>>377599862
>he hates nvidia
>he hates intel
>he hates minecraft
>he hates good framerates
What's your problem?

>>377599490
>>377599490

I fucking missed the sale

I missed the sale for a fucking 80$ 8350

I was so fucking mad anon

>>377599872
Valve have an interest in keeping linux drivers good since linux is their plan B if microsoft go full retard and try to stop all non-windows store purchases

>>377594030
>>will be beating nvidia with vega
just like the 480 was destined to kill the 1070 right

>>377597934
>In real world situations where you're gaming at 1440p or 2160p (the market for $200+ CPUs)
Why would you be buying a better CPU to pump out more pixels you fucking ignorant dolt

>>377593584
fun ;_;

>>377600445
Sure but its odd to see them hire senior driver devs (who aren't cheap) to work full time on something that is Free Software, that only works on Linux, and only on specific hardware as well.
Speculation is that they're doing it for their next gen Steam Machines which will have a more uniform hardware configuration.

>if microsoft go full retard and try to stop all non-windows store purchases
No longer a matter of 'if', 10 S is confirmed to only run UWP software from the Windows Store and is basically guaranteed to become the primary new version of Windows over the next few years.
I fully anticipate in a couple of years to see astroturf threads where there's bitching about how Valve forces people to spend more money just to play games when you can just play Xbox games from their store.

I've got an A10-7850K and an RX 470 4GB. I had a normal AMD CPU before this. The processors were expensive, around $150-200 each and holy fuck AMD processors are fucking shit. Stuttering, graphics glitches, having to fuck around with my drivers and BIOS just to go from "Wow AMD sucks" to "Wow, AMD sucks slightly less"

Don't fall for the AMD meme

>>377593548
CPUs are stagnant. You get a slightly worse i7 for $150 less if you buy the 1500X. Also the mobo costs less, and you have a better upgrade path on AM4 (vs basically none on the 1151 unless you get the G4560)

RX 580 is beating the 6GB 1060 in new games. Basically AMD is the generic naproxen, while Intel or Nvidia is Aleve.

>>377600882
You clearly don't know what the fuck you're doing, and you deserve the poor performance you got

>>377600598
Because a 4 thread chip is going to bottleneck a GPU at high res in a modern API compared to a 12 thread part?

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BELOW OS BACKDOORS

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>>377599862
>AMJews salty they can't even run minecraft

>>377601005
Or you can just buy an i3-6100, which blows every AMD card out of the water, for less than a hundred bucks

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>>377593548
>I d-don't regret spending $350 on a quad core CPU in 2017 at all!!!

>>377600016
You realize AMD has their own line of HEDT processors coming out soon as well, right?

U

>>377593548
Ryzen has better minimum 0.1 and 1% frames, which is what really matters. It feels smoother to play on.

Enjoy your microstutter, intelcucks

>>377594030
>>will be beating nvidia with vega
Oh man, finally 1070 performance after a year!
Based AMD

What do you mean, they just released CPUs that make i5 irrelevant for everything besides fringe uses like high end emulation.

>>377599414
>>377599490
>>377600364
screw that shit get a ryzen 1600 which has much better single core performance, and it is the best bang for your buck CPU right now

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>>377593548

Well I dunno. It's not like people are buying their shit anyway. Maybe they are just broke.

https://valid.x86.fr/bench/1

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>>377602217

>Falling for Buldozer 2.0

>>377600513
you mean 1060?
because that's exactly what it did

>>377594148
whats wrong with bulldozer? I'm still using my FX8350 with no issues other than not being able to run 32 bit crysis 1

>>377605109
It's shit compared to the competition.
>>377594148
What really cost AMD marketshare was Intel bribing OEM makers to only use Intel chips. Despite having to pay billions to AMD after losing a court case, it was an incredibly profitable move for them.

>it's a 200 post AMD specific issue Steam complaint thread episode

>>377595682
I'd rather go on what they do, than what they might do if things were differently. AMD supports the indstry with open source software, open standards like Freesync, and created Mantle, then gave it away to Kronos so they could make Vulkan. AMD are currently doing a lot of good for everyone.

Intel and nVidia are not.

>>377594030
>releasing something to compete with the 1070 and 1080 after an entire fucking year
>"beating"

>>377596134
>even considering a $70 GPU
The price to performance ratio is god awful. Spend a bit more and get a 560 or something.

>>377595425

>tfw I got DOOM a whole week before it was available for purchase in my country

I had piles of burned copies on my desk, but that was one of the first games I downloaded from a private tracker administered by guy from high school. My comp had a Atlhon XP 3400+ and a Radeon 9700pro, I played OFP and CSS on that crap for years. My games look and ran like shit., but god damn at least I had fun back then.

>>377596804
Save up more. While you can build a pc for that price, you'll get better pice/perf if you spend a few hundred more.

>>377593548
>do shit
>retards still buyt it
Why wouldn't they be shit, when it still brings them money?

Ryzen 1600x or Intel i5-7600k?

>>377606735

Just wait for Coffee lake. It's coming later this year, will have six cores and shouldn't even be pricier than the quad cores.

>>377606735
1600
No need for the 1600x, you could just overclock

>>377596804
Buying intel is a really bad idea right now

>>377607430
Why

>>377607661
Ryzen 5 matches i5 and surpasses in some games, Ryzen uses way less lower than i5/i7s, we don't know how Ryzen 2 and 3 will be, so getting a AM4 chipset now might lead you to a nice upgrade path

Intel is stagnated beyond help while AMD is bringing out the goods for once in the CPU arena

>>377608037
With directx 12 Ryzen will continue to shit on Intel
Also
>most games Intel CPU hits 90% usage while AMD doesn't even break 50%
This fact alone tells you AMD is far superior

>>377607661
Ryzen has significantly lower power consumption, more cores, beats kaby lake in most modern games and has far lower CPU usage while gaming, so it will gain performance as multicore optimization continues to improve

>>377610023
Crazy how little power Ryzen uses, wasn't intel the king of power efficiency when the FX 8320 were power hogs and the best CPUs AMD had?

I'm also curious about the marketshare of Ryzen and how Intel will react.

>>377600513
>>377605074
RX 580 actually has better or same performance in some DX12 games than 1070 (tho it loses by a lot in almost all other games)

>>377599307
>i5 6600k 73% CPU usage / 85% GPU usage

>Ryzen 1700 21% CPU usage / 98% GPU usage

Really activates my almonds

>>377596134
AyyMD has better performance on DX12, which is the future

Why is my R7 370 so shit

>>377611187
Still fine for medium settings

Which motherboard should I get for a Ryzen 1600?

>>377599750
What is this motherboard patch shit?
I've never had to patch Intel boards. They just work as they're supposed to.

>>377593548
Meh, my Sapphire 290 still maxes out everything apart from some unoptimized AAA shit that even a 1080i can't run.
The FX CPU line was shit though. From what I hear Ryzen is not too bad.

>>377611150
Well, let's hope more devs actually deliver on optimization then.
The only games where DX12 is properly implemented are Gears 4 and Hitman.
>tfw when going from 40fps medium in DX11 setting to 80fps maxed settings in DX12 in Hitman

>>377593584
video games

>used to be hardcore pro-AMD since the ORIGINAL Athlon processors
>ATI vidya cards yeah boi
>amd athlon X2
>phenom x4 955

>build new rig budget rig for daughter
>i3 3240 because on sale
>750ti on sale
>little motherfucker is a champ at low temps

Never again. 7700K/1080Ti now. Never looking back. Fuck all y'all AMDcucks.

>>377611393
Then why do my games still lag

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>>377612453

Probably because you are using an intel cpu.

>>377593548
AMD fixed the Nier Automata white screen crash. Spread the word!
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-Edition-17.5.2-Release-Notes.aspx

>>377611516
Any decent motherboard should work fine, even b350 boards should be ok. R5s don't pull much power at all so you don't some crazy vrm config for it.

>>377611187
>2GB VRAM
Because you cheaped out and bought the worst card in the series. Textures in modern AAA titles can take up as much as 6GB of VRAM these days. You'll have to tone those down to low to make modern games playable.

>>377611743
>Ryzen

How much of a issue is them not being made for gaming or w/e the bullshit being spread was?

My Phenom IIx4 945 has lasted me forever, and I've never repasted. If that's not a sign of quality I don't know what is, so that considered I'd probably buy another AMD processor, but I wanna be sure.

>>377612572
MSI B350M PRO-VDH AM4 is half the price than MSI X370 Gaming Pro AM4 Ryzen which is the only X370 I found on this site.
MSI B350M Bazooka AM4 Ryzen, Gigabyte GA-AB350M GAMING 3 AM4 Ryzen, Gigabyte GA-AB350 GAMING 3 AM4 Ryzen all are in between price wise.
Which one?

>>377593584
jews

>>377612562
Good to see AMD is quick to fix these bugs, unlike nVidia.

>>377611516
Any B350 board that isnt MSI will do fine

>>377612824

>How much of a issue is them not being made for gaming or w/e the bullshit being spread was?

It is 100% bullshit because there is no such thing as a gaming cpu. Nothing Intel, AMD or VIA make has anything special that seperates gaming out from other workloads.

I'll give you a fun fact: Ryzen has higher IPC than kabylake does because it can handle 4 complex ops a cycle - kabylake can only handle 1 comples and 3 simple.

tl;dr hit ryzen right and outside of AVX2 it will blow Intel's chips out of the water.

Sauce: Agner.

>>377593584
niggers

>>377593584
I don't hate AMD at all, competition is good. I wish a 3rd company would enter the CPU and GPU markets

>>377611516
Gigabyte is most reliable.

Avoid Asus and MSI.

>>377612825
I'd go with the gigabyte board out of those.

>>377613019
What's wrong with MSI?

>>377611743
The FX8350 still outperforms the 3570k in most modern games
It was a decent cpu for the price

>>377610572
You're a retarded nigger.

That "21%" just means one or two cores at 100%. AMDs single threaded performance is shit.

>>377613089
Low quality VRM

>>377613079
>>377612825
Also you don't need a "gayman" motherboard. Just get a regular one.

>>377613129

>That "21%" just means one or two cores at 100%

No it doesn't.

>>377613026
I see, well thanks then. My rigs gettin pretty old so once I get a new job I'm pretty much gonna be forced to upgrade. I play a lotta older games like phantasy star online, hopefully I wont have issues with them.

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>>377606735
Depends what you want, i'd go ryzen. To summarise the whole thread any all AMD sux threads:

Multi core performance - go with Ryzen
Single core performance - go with the 7600K

>>377613081
The gigabyte gaming 3 will do fine
Best board in terms of hardware
The UEFI kind of sucks and likes to shit itself, but nothing a CMOS reset won't fix
Avoid MSI

>>377613202
2 threads, then

>>377613184
>>377613081
>>377613079
Which one:
Gigabyte GA-AB350M GAMING 3 AM4 Ryzen
Gigabyte GA-AB350 GAMING 3 AM4 Ryzen +$15
Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370 GAMING K5 AM4 Ryzen +$90

All the Gigabyte are gaymen, the MSI are the only ones with Pro versions sadly

How long will my i5-2400 with RX480 last?
Ryzen looks interesting but I'd have to buy a new MOBO and RAM to use it. I would like to dump my money on another console if the performance gain is not that much.

>>377612824
Ryzen has approximately 10% less IPC than recent intel processors and 10% less max frequency. Since games tend to prefer higher single threaded performance, this accounts for most of the difference seen between recent intel processors and Ryzen in games, although it does depend on the game and in most cases the GPU will be more important as long as you have at least a midrange processor.

>>377593584
Niggers.

It isn't. I had a 5770, a 7870 and now a 480 and they're all great cards.

>>377613398
>i5-2400

This fucking piece of shit got beaten by $60 pentium G in gaming.

>>377593548
They're not shit though. I always buy AMD gpus because I would rather support them than nvidia. If AMD goes bankrupt we're all totally fucked.

>>377613505
The CPU is like 5 years old though

>>377613554

Well he asking how long it will last, that's my answer.

>tfw just got my 1060

Feels great, I've only used AMD up to this point. Nvidia is way better. Everything just works and you can tweak a ton of stuff in the drivers.

>>377613368
Gigabyte GA-AB350 GAMING 3 AM4
2 pcie
1pci
6 sata port
5.1 jacks
1 optical port
it's equipped like a x370 mother board without the price

>>377613368
>Gigabyte GA-AB350M GAMING 3 AM4 Ryzen
>Gigabyte GA-AB350 GAMING 3 AM4 Ryzen
These are fine, basically the same board in a different form factor. Get the one that fits your case.

>>377593584
weebs and weeb games

>>377613797
>>377613764
Thank you, lastly this site has a limited selection of cases also, is a Corsair Carbide SPEC ALPHA Yellow fine? Or should I get a SPEC 03 instead? A lot of people recommended me cases but none of them are here.

built a new pc in march.

windows 10 fuck you i wanna play halo when it eventually come to pc
i7-6700k
212 evo cooler
16gb 3200 ram
msi gtx 1080 duke
150 dollar motherboard with builting wifi and bluetooth probably the part i regret the most since it only has 2 sata ports or whatever they are and 1 pci-e thing
2tb hdd
some 60 buck case i had to dent to make the graphics card fit

how'd i do?

>>377613368
AB350 gaming 3

>>377613109
i want a source for that, got benchmarks of tons of games? because I remember it being comparable in some, not most at all

Why the fuck is Vega taking so long REEEEEEEEEEEEE. Just bought a 1440p 144Hz IPS monitor on sale, the price was too good to pass up. Unfortunately my GTX 980 isn't quite up to playing everything at 1440p at very high or ultra, although playing older games at 1440p is very nice. Want to upgrade but waiting for Vega so I can compare the 1080 and whatever equivalent AMD card has but it's taking forever.

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>tfw you made a ryzen build
>tfw you don't have to shekel out a 1000 for 16 thread cpu
AMD IS BACK BABY

>>377607209
>just wait for next gen
So you're admitting Ryzen is superior

Sapphire RX 580 8 GB Pulse
or
MSI 1060 6GB
I have been having this dilemma for weeks, both are almost the same price

if Ryzen is so good, why are Intel i5 CPUs still expensive? Where are the massive price drops, I want a market price war

>>377616049
get the 580

>>377613184
Got a sauce on that? All I can find is an issue with the Titanium model specifically.

>>377613079
Oh come on MSI ain't that bad, ASUS is the worst cause they thought ryzen was gonna fail

>>377611730
You don't have to patch AMD boards either, it just makes them run better.

>>377611730
This is a new architecture so obviously it has to be patched out, Only reason intel just werks is cause they've been re releasing sandy bridge for 6 years

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>still using a Phenom II, got a memecard recently
>unsure if I upgrade because I'm kinda thinking about playing games less and less
I got money saved but I'm not sure

>>377602112
6100 or 7100 aren't worth it now that the G4560 is almost the same for nearly $60 less

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>>377602112
>2017
>buying a dual core processors

surefire way to tell if someone is underage is if they shit on amd

they can't remember when intel was dogshit

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>>377602112
>i3-6100
>better than R7 1800X

>>377617293
Nobody gives a shit about 13 year old CPU's grandpa.

>>377617293
>>377617293
the fx line up was a jokes

>>377617293
Come on dude, 4chan is filled with the halo 3 generation. Why even bring up netburst?

>>377611730

someone doesn't remember Sandy Bridge.

>>377595865
Amds research facility is literally in Israel.

>>377615238
I'm waiting for an ultra wide 2160p at 144hz

I'll wait till Navi if I have to

>>377595623
>>377595865
>>377618283
What's wrong with jews?

I know some people will say jews approve muslim immigration and destruction of the West and yadda but Robert Spencer, a jew who speaks against Islam and muslim immigration was just poisoned in Iceland for doing what he does. I mean it's clear not everyone is doing what this narrative tries to pass, jews are not a monolithic group who votes in block for Obama or so.

yeah i'm opening a /pol/ can of worms but what can you do

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>>377593548
Hmmm...