Which is better?

>>377589689
>The game I play for several hours a day vs literally who
Isaac is the best game ever created with the most replayability of any game

>>377589689
Depends on what you like. Nuclear Throne is a more twitch shooter that isn't hugely dependant on the drops, at least in comparison to Isaac.

>>377589689

Both great indie games with 100% cancerous Devs.

>>377589689
Isaac by a fucking mile.

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If I had to choose, I'd have to go with Isaac since I've played that longer.

NT is pretty fun, too, though. Might get back into it if Update 99 is ever released.

NT because Isaac is way too easy for me nowadays

NT's level randomization is the best of any "top down roguelite shooter". I have 300h on NT and I'm still getting wildly novel levels and enemy placements

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>>377590416
>Isaac is the best game ever created

Enter the Gungeon

>>377591596
This.

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Say my name.

>>377591596
>>377591628
>>377591648

EtG is way too easy. EtG felt like a cakewalk to me after NT. I 100%'d it in ~70 hours. I had cleared the actual mechanical challenges of dealing with the enemies and bosses much earlier, it took me that long to get the unlocks

For contrast, I have less than half of the achievements and unlocks for NT @ ~250h

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>>377589689

Crypt of the Negro Dancer

>>377591787
>this game takes longer to 100%, therefore it is better!

did you eat paint chips as a kid?

>>377591596
>>377591648

I really wanted to like it, but it just feels so fucking slow.
It seems like a lot of time has passed when you defeat the first floor boss, and by that time you've only gotten 1-2 new guns both of which could easily suck.
When it's good it's really fun. It just feels like you have to go through 85% boredom to get to the 15% that's fun. When it's an action rogue-like-like-light-whatever like this, then I want more speed, I want to be excited about what's around the corner. EtG just feels slow.

>>377589689
Spelunky

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Objectively Isaac.

>>377591916

"100%ing" is locked behind gameplay challenges in both games, I don't see the problem with using that to illustrate how much harder NT is

NT also loops indefinitely, so even if you had perfect game knowledge and were using a very powerful synergy (such as Fish, Trigger Fingers and Super Plasma gun), it will match your level eventually, even if takes 5+ loops

>>377591991
Rogue Legacy is pretty bad.

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>>377591991

This list is nearly perfect...If you flip it

>>377592105
shit you're right

>>377592030
>I don't see the problem with using that to illustrate how much harder NT is

why are you bringing up difficulty when the central question is 'which is better?'

BETTER. not harder. and who gives a fuck about looping. it doesn't make the game better.

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>>377591989
Spelunky is legitimately a perfect game

>>377592030
>it will match your level eventually, even if takes 5+ loops
How long would that take relative to the expected game length?

>>377592210
>>377591989
too damn easy. the most difficult thing is trying to do a 'pick up no money' run and getting a darkness level and inadvertently picking up a pebble of gold ruining the whole thing.

>>377592176

Challenge is an essential quality of a good video game to me. If it's just a casual cakewalk while I take in the sights I'm not interested

Also, NT's loops do improve the game through challenge, variation and longevity, and from offering content not present outside of loops (such as some new enemies and warps to locations like the IDPD HQ)

>>377592238

A loop is like 10-15 minutes, but subsequent loops can get even shorter if you have "broken" builds (like Steroids and 2x Lightning Hammer). So not very long at all. After you unlock hard mode, you can start the game on something equivalent to ~Loop 3

>>377590416
It's all me and my girlfriend play. For the past year, pretty much just Isaac.

Antibirth coming out was the greatest thing to happen. Although I wish you could hard mode the alternative route.

>>377592138
how does that even fucking work

>>377592295
true, but at least it hasn't been ruined by updates or left unfinished by lazy devs
fuck that no money anti fun achievement

>>377592447
What do you mean? The list reversed fits my taste better than the list in its original form.
NT>FTL>Necrodancer>ETG>RoR>Rogue Legacy>Isaac>Don't Starve
Haven't played the rest

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>>377591059
It's already released for a while now, it's called Nuclear Throne Together.
All the fixes that 99 was supposed to have are all already implemented into NTT plus a whole bunch of other extras (like up to 4 player online multiplayer) and even modding support with there already being quite a few mods released already.

https://yellowafterlife.itch.io/nuclear-throne-together

>>377592447
>>377592105
>>377592138
The point of the meme is that you are supposed to flip it, low brain is the good taste while the enlightened is the shit taste.
It's just that /v/ copied the meme without ever understanding how it was supposed to work.

>>377592714
If its still 30 fps then fuck off

>>377589689
>not Fish Rolls

>>377592641

NT hasn't been "left unfinished", if anything they had a perfect formula and started updating it too much and fucking with what people felt the "game should be like"

I for one greatly appreciate the upping of the difficulty and nerfing of babby mode synergies and characters (Chicken as it used to be, for example)

NT is miles better, and more dependent on skill
Isaac is so bloated with items at this point, you are either extremely weak or extremely strong

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>>377592808
Blame Vlambeer for that, they make fun games but everything else they just fuck up horribly due to laziness/greed.

>>377592767
Not exactly. The smallest brain is supposed to represent the normie opinion.

>>377593143
>normies
>good taste
It's an ironic meme.

>>377593116
>Zangief Fish

Kek. What mod?

>>377593212
Piledriver mod
https://bitbucket.org/YellowAfterlife/nuclearthronetogether/wiki/Mods/Mod%20list#markdown-header-piledriver

>>377593143
>>377593195

small brain is the "normal" opinion
the more brain there is, the weirder shit gets to the point of it becoming fucking ridicolous
right?

>>377591596
bad pacing
The first floor is way too long for too little rewards. It's a chore to start a game again, while in isaac you are back on rails after a maximum of 5 minutes.

>>377591991
Issac is for people who prefer RNG, Nuclear Throne is for people who want to git gud.

>>377591648
garbage

>buy NT for a friend to repay a favor
>he won't play it because the screen is fucking shaking all the time
>it's clunky and plays like an unfinished game on local coop

having my only friend be a fucking pleb is suffering

>>377593737
>he won't play it because the screen is fucking shaking all the time

Did he even look at the menu? Just turn screenshake off

>>377593413
This game sucks