What went wrong?

>>377566865
>westrash rpg

everything

>>377567043
t. Fenris

>>377566865
They made sequels.

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combat was shit

too much trash

Deep Roads

Nothing. It's shitposted on /v/ NOW by a crossfire of newer anons who don't understand the context of WHY we hate Bioware, and think it extends to all of their titles or think that Origins counts as a modern Bioware game because the rest of the series is pretty much pinnacle modern bioware. And autist CRPG purists who couldn't handle something different and better. With maybe a sprinkling of triggered Toddposters who just shitpost anything WRPG that isn't Bethesda.

But this use to a board favorite.

Ho there Warden. For a cool $19.99 you can go on this wonderful new adventure, but I only take credit.

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>>377566865
It has terrible sequels

bad ai, shit controls, console pandering, bland/generic story, forgettable combat, gimmick areas that destroy any replay-value

You know, standard procedure for modern video games.

are you ready for the new shit!?

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>>377568641
>Mfw revisionists try to make this into a massive problem
The company was bought by EA mid development of Origins. We're insanely lucky that one-off conversation is the extent of their influence on Origins main game. Not to mention any version you play now is the ultimate edition, and will immediately just be the natural dialogue surrounding the quest.

I for one wouldn't let some shitty imposing by a publisher ruin an otherwise perfectly good game.

>>377568685
This.
>come up with cool lore that leads to main event in the first game
>instead of exploring the lore, milk that event for all subsequent games
In the age of Dragon, the blight started again, but there were further blights before that. They should explore ages before Dragon Age.

>>377568937
The point of the Dragon Age was to always explore the evolution of the age from the blight at the start to the dawn of the next age.

Something tells me thats long gone now though.

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Only serious issue was the nonsensical event that starts the plot. Other than that it was a good compromise of old and new and a good starting point for what could have been a great series. Too bad they sacrificed the franchise by making a cheap, low production value sequel whose sole purpose was to make money fast to finance The Old Republic.

>>377568341
>was shit
Wrong, please explain and be specific
It's not even bad today

Would have preferred another neverwinter nights with trannys and HIV positive woodelfs

Any game that hints that I should feel guilty really

>>377568510
>not the fade
bruh

>>377567043
>J""""""""""RPG""""""""""

>>377569769
Fade is pure ludo, abusing the forms is great and as a maze/puzzle its honestly fantastic. Not to mention its a smaller part of the entire mage tower questline which has a lot of fun moments. So even if you for whatever reason hate the fade, its one small part of one main quest thats one small part of the game. The people who claim the fade ruins any chance of them playing the game have autism, its like 30-40 maximum

Deep Roads is actual bad video game design (This is almost exclusively where the too much trash critique comes from, there's even fucking trash bosses that have no real mechanics like the gangue shade and forgemaster) and drags on 5 times longer than the fade (On top of the fact that you've been looking at the underground aesthetic for several hours at this point in Orzammar and have already done a just alright dungeon in Lowtown). Even when the traveling through the fucking deep roads ends and you get to Cairidin it starts off with a wave by wave darkspawn trashfest and then fighting some golems, the forge was the only really decent fight. The choice between Cairidin and Branka was laughable because of how badly Branka was written, with zero characters siding with her other than Morrigan. Its not surprising that this part was written by Jennifer "Hamburger" Helper.

Anybody who calls the fade bad but doesn't even mention the deep roads is retarded.

>>377568584
It still is, for the most part. And I agree, Bioware went downhill after being bought by EA. They made some of my favorite games ever (I still enjoy most of their games, but nothing compares to DA:Origins or Jade Empire) and it's sad watching them be overrun by people who want to push their own agenda, not to mention how much EA interferes in their games.

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>>377566865
The only thing that went wrong is the feeling that Bioware's stepped away from this style of RPG in favor of joining the open-world competition.

>>377571869
I'm actually about to start jade empire for the first time, any tips?

>>377566865
I dunno, you tell me. I thought it was a pretty great RPG.

>>377571869
>push their own agenda
What did he mean by this?

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>>377566865
My only critique is that there's a guy who literally hangs out at your campsite and asks if you want to pay real money to go a big adventure with him.

It's a decent DLC, but having the product placement indefinitely follow your entourage around for the entire game had EA's fingers all over it.

it's generic as FUCK, the game is like bare minimum effort in its settings, which makes it hard to play because gameplay is nothing special as always from Bioware, but Mass Effect at least had interesting races and lore as an incentive to for you to explore the galaxy

DA:O is just tolkien fantasy clichefest. I don't care about any character in this shit, or in the world itself

>>377572660
I mentioned this earlier, but all things considered we're lucky that's all we had to deal with, and its a moot point these days with every version being the ultimate edition.

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>>377566865
>played the game through 3 times before the DLC dropped
>played through the game twice more after the DLC dropped
>was super excited for DA2
>DA2 was dogshit

I'm glad they never made a Dragon Age 3, it probably would have been so bad people would be ashamed to play it.

nothing, it's perfect, aside from the railroaded campaign, i really hate "the world will end" setting, i like more free campagns, but there's no rpg games like this, i wonder why

>>377572871
>I didn't pay attention or read anything or get to know my companions why isn't the writing good?

>>377567212
Fenris isn't in Origins.

>>377572174
Just keep in mind the alignment system is a bit different.

It's not good/evil, but more strength/kindness. It is entirely possible to save the entire world and everyone in it while also being full closed-fist.

Beyond that, only non-spoiler advice is NEVER FUCKING EVER tell your companions to shut up or you don't want to hear about their bullshit. They actually listen and will never, ever speak to you again except during the main story, effectively canceling their sidequests/stories forever.

>>377573004
Oh yeah the edgy witch is such an amazing character, or the "1st guy you meet in a bioware game" that was such a well written classic. Or how the story is generic fantasy with a shitty racism twist to it.

>>377572956
>what is DAI

>>377566865
The vanilla skills could have been more interesting. A lot of the more interesting stuff isn't available until Awakening. Also, you pretty much have to run a mage in your party, so it would've been nice if the options weren't so polarized. Makes it difficult to feel good about actually roleplaying with your dialogue options.

>>377572956
Anon....
I have bad news.

>>377573195
>>377573321
You two have fucking downs.

>>377573287
I always feel this is a weird complaint. Its a traditional RPG, which means by definition you require at least one tank, at least one DPS, and at least one healer.

Since mages are the only class that can heal, yes you require a mage, but at the same time you also essentially require a rogue to open shit for you, and you also require a warrior since they're the only class that can tank besides mages late-game or NG+.

>>377573379
I don't get it.

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>>377573083
As always, posters like you make it obvious they stuck with the first companions the game hands them and then wondered why things were vanilla and boring.

Diversify nigga, the cast is fantastic, you get a bunch of the better ones later in, but you get the absolute best written companion before leaving Lothering (pic related).

>I tried nothing, and I'm all out of ideas!

>>377566865

unskipable cutscenes and dilogues
Bugs/Getting stuck
Untransparent skillsystem
LameAF story (dlc)

>>377568584
I remember twice they advertised DLC IN THE BASE GAME. One was a guy in my camp who would never go away until I forked over some cash to rescue his family. The other was a wounded man in the woods. I either let him die, or connected to EA's store in order to save him.

Fuck Dragon Age.

>>377568841
Haven't played DAO past the fade. What conversation?

>>377573661
Wait which DLC was wounded forest-man?

>>377573607
agreed, sten is fucking nuts, sad he speaks so little, but even then, he doesnt need to speak much to make me feel his camaraderie.

>>377573661
>I either let him die, or connected to EA's store in order to save him.
When exactly does this happen?

>>377573607
The problem is that the game could not keep me entertained to give a fuck. THis whole "human, elf, dwarf / warrior, rogue, mage" cookie cutter shit bored me to no end. Then we're dealing with the Darkspawn, what a generic horde of shit to fight against. I don't see the point of going on during the Fade, since the story was shit, the characters were shit, the setting is as lazy as they come, and just having generic fantasy but now with a racism against elves and mages simply isn't very enticing.

>>377573448
He thinks he's being a funny cunt by pretending DA:I doesn't exist I guess

>>377566865
People on /v/ still praise this shit but even the day it came out it was was a dumbed down crpg with a bad story and gameplay.

>>377573743
>Morrigan relentlessly teases him about sex if both are in the party
>He eventually deadpans that he would be willing to absolutely wreck morrigan's ass with his cock if she is genuinely curious, however he requests they get her something to bite down on, armor, and have a healer on standby

Sten's absolute bone-dry humor is the best part of his character.

>>377573745
>>377573739
I think it's actually a merchant who's a random encounter that offers to sell you Shale's control rod. If you accept it just links you to the store.

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>>377573787
>This whole "human, elf, dwarf / warrior, rogue, mage" cookie cutter shit bored me to no end.
Ok so you didn't want to play a typical RPG in a fantasy setting so you picked up a game called "Dragon Age: Origins" with this boxart?

>>377573978
That is not even remotely similar to what was first claimed.

>>377572939

Fuck off, asshole. That shit was inexcusable

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Is it odd that every new game has given me newfound appreciation for the preceding one?

I thought much more fondly of DA2 after Inquisition.

Now I'm thinking more fondly of Inquisition after Andromeda.

>>377574106
I know, I think he was mistaken. There really are two blatant DLC shilling moments in the game though.

>>377573930
i think i never seem this dialogue cause i romance her in every playthrough, i simply cant romance other, i dont know why

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>>377574145
It's not even in the game anymore faggot. There's no version of Dragon Age Origins for sale today that will run into the DLC plugs.

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>>377574151
>buying andromeda
>"I didn't really like the game until I bought the next game and it was shittier, and I didn't like that game until I bought the next one and it was EVEN SHITTIER"

People like you are the reason everything is bad.

>>377574297
>buying a game twice

>>377574297
[citation needed]
Anon, most everybody in this thread loves Origins. You don't have to defend every aspect.

>>377574069
I don't know you tell me, does it say extremely generic piece of shit in the subtitle? Am I supposed to be impressed when they're doing the bare minimum and just marking the fantasy tropes checkboxes?

Mass Effect might have all kinds of issues, but the races were interesting, the Hanar, the space politics, all this tension between humans and other species, this shit gave a lot of color to the game, made my want to explore it, learn about how things worked. Then we're back with races that everyone and their mommas have in their IPs, classes that everyone and their mommas have in their games, and those shitty stereotypical party members such as "edgy witch cunt" hey but you can fuck her! Get the fuck out with this shit. Also the art style is drab as fuck and only help to make DA:O feel like a boring fucking turd.

I just finished Divinity: Original Sin EE, and that game has shitloads of classes, humorous dialogue, incomparably superior combat, and it's just 10 times more charming than DA:O, it's not me not enjoying CRPGs, it's Dragon Age: Origins being fucking boring, dull and uninteresting, and overrated on top of that.

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>>377574334
For all their issues, I didn't regret playing DA2 and Inquisition.

And all I mainly heard about Andromeda were complaints about the shitty animations, which I thought were never great in Bioware games to begin with, so I wanted to at least give it a shot.

But the issues run deep.

still the closest game to 3d baldurs gate

prove me wrong

>>377574414
Well it's regularly on sale for 5 dollars with all the content. And means you don't need to lug out your discs constantly. It's also on EA Access which is honestly pretty great but /v/ memes are law so I can't actually say that.

Most importantly, the DLCs can also be pirated and installed with Dragon Age's official mod installer tool with zero effort, you can remove those conversations with the literal click of a button like you're installing a mod.

>>377574538
Every online store carries the Ultimate Edition of Dragon Age Origin, it's bundled with those two DLCs as well as all the others. Those conversations wont trigger any store interactions unless you specifically turn off those DLCs.

>>377574924
I have the ultimate edition, Dryden and Shale's former owner still show up if you haven't installed them.

>>377566865
Great game, a pity the sequels all disappointed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec0Py9jevJ4

>>377574659
DUDE its a fuckin fantasy setting game, what do you expect aside from elves humans goblins n shit, fuck, its totally diferent, if you dont like the fantasy setting ,then dont play and stop being a cunt

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>>377575019
>But the questgivers still give the quest
>My fucking face right now
Yeah but it's to trigger the quest, there's no mention or appearances from real money or the EA store in the conversations. How the fuck else are you supposed to get the quests?

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>>377574924

>>377574924
>No humor
Didn't we already establish you went with the most bland and vanilla companion cast imaginable?

You really sound like you want to hate this game for reasons other than the gameplay anon.

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So mad at that game right now.

Fired it up on last Tuesday, whole day to enjoy some rpg magic like I remember it from 2013. Spend my time making sure to collection Shale and Stern, Llida, the dog ect. Get to the end of the Redcliff castle, only way to get the "save the prince ending" is to go back and visit mage tower first for spell or whatever.

So I backtrack to the Magi Circle, spens 4 hrs or more if you count the sloth mind world stuff getting to the big showdown. Turns out the boss for this round is totally overpowered from what I remember, team is all warrior's with that one priest women. I then find I can no longer go back or change party members, the auto save writes over and ruins the chance to avoid sloth mind word fight and go back and grind.


I am totally stuck and wasted my day off on this broken game.

>>377575382
Meant for
>>377574659

>>377575307
Nah, I still got linked to the playstation store.

>>377575048
Is this the most accurate portrayal of women in gaming history?

>>377575307
>How the fuck else are you supposed to get the quests?

How about after you purchase and install the DLC, idiot?

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>>377575503
>Consoles
There's your problem
You also probably didn't have the DLC installed or something. That is if you're ACTUALLY SURE you did have Ultimate Edition.

>>377575096
So all fantasy settings have to subscribe to the very same races and classes and enemies? No retard, this is called lack of ambition from Bioware, lazyness and lack of creativity. I've seen the themes of the game elsewhere multiple times already, Darkspawn are the orcs of this game, for example. This just screams laziness to me and undermines my will to finish it, because what's the point, this is too filled with blatant cliches and has no intention of setting itself apart from a plethora of fantasy worlds around.

They did the bare minimum for DA:O's setting, and it was enough to get sales given how the game is showered with praise, so more power to them.

>>377575382
I didn't get a lot of party options, I dropped the game during the Fade, when I couldn't care less anymore about it. What party options I had by then, I had edgy witch cunt, boring 1st party memeber from a bioware game and the other bitch, I don't remember stumbling into any more party members. Granted the Fade isn't really late into the game, it's what, 5 hours in? But I wasn't getting any enjoyment from it, and the Fade itself wasn't the only problem, I wasn't enjoying any of it, and the Fade was just the last drop.

>>377575385
Tried switching to Easy mode?

>>377575385
It's manageable, especially with all the broken MCs shape shift forms for the tower section.

You can also always turn down the difficulty.

>>377575385
Yeah, I can never bring myself to play a long RPG without having at least three rotating saves.

>>377575850
The game also had HK-47, Canderous, a sweet old woman, a dog, and a few others, I can't remember much else. I only played it once when it came out and the only really memorable thing was the voice acting from Kate Mulgrew and Tim Russ.

>>377576093
Yeah I have the three save rule too. I'd never articulated that to anyone, or even given it much thought, but three is the rule.

>>377576236
the first two were from KOTOR, I can remember their names

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>tfw after years of introspection you realize Dragon Age 2 is the best of the series

>>377576317
Yes, obviously. I mean that they just reused the character concepts, except they made HK-47 talk about sex a lot this time.

>>377575850

I agree with you. DAO has one of the most generic settings in a video game I've seen.

Though I've had people tell me they liked how it was generic because "sometimes you just want a generic fantasy setting."

>>377575850
If you didn't get at least 2 more companions than the 3 main ones and Dog before The Fade you disliking Dragon Age Origins is entirely due to your own stupidity. Sten and Wynne are retardedly easy to get. In Sten's case you pretty much have to walk away from an active quest that is blatantly telling you that it unlocks a companion and Wynne literally fucking throws herself at you and you have to shoot her down, several times, in order to not get her for any period of time.

>>377576379
I've never seen a good post and the thinking emoji in the same place

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>>377576379
I genuinely liked DA2, but the clear signs of it being rushed through development still hold it back from competing with Origins for me.

>>377576471
But I don't remember meeting them at all, I'll say I don't remember much about DA:O, I remember going near a mage tower of sorts, talking about how muh racism is bad and how humans are racist against elves and mages, meeting that dwarf merchant and his odd autistic(?) son, then later a creature puts me to sleep, the Fade starts and I'm nearly put to sleep in real life as well.

>>377576395
Yeah I couldn't keep going because it was simply uninteresting, and the combat was nothing special.

>>377576395
I doubt a single or two party members would make everything else about the game to be non-generic and fix the issues of how derivative it really is. I can't stress how this game feels like someone skimmed through tolkien playbook and just copypasted shit enough. Zelda, an action adventure fantasy game, it has its own mythos, the thre goddesses, the western inspiration it has with many designs, how it takes a page out of the King Arthur playbook with the chosen being able to pull the sword from the rock, also takes elements from japanese culture, gorons doing sumo and whatnot. It's a nice fantasy setting that sets itself apart from many other IPs, and despite not being a RPG series and not having as much focus on stories/characters than a RPG does, the world of Zelda is often charming. Dwarf Fortress, a managament game that is also fantasy, that game the strange bugs and shit even merge with the lore, how carps were strong as fuck and became a mythical creature of sorts due to how they can drag a dwarf to a river and drown him, and so on. It manages to set itself apart from other fantasy settings just fine.

Dragon Age Origins is fantasy for dummies. In fantasy settings we like to have humans, dwarves who are short people, and elves who have pointy ears and are fags. Also people only like having 3 classes in our fountain of originality: warrior for the melee brutes, rogue for the sissies and mage for the spellfags. Oh and we're fighting the Orcs with blue glowing eyes, but now they're called darkspawn. And dragons exist I guess, and we're totally original IP donut steel.

This is fucking pig slop, this is someone going to wikipedia or tvtropes and taking notes of fantasy trends and putting them in a game. There's absolutely no originality to it whatsoever, and with the mediocre combat of the game, what exactly is the hook of DA:O? Beats me.

>>377577462
Try again, go to Redcliffe first instead. Pick up the big black dude in the cage before you leave lothering. Put him in your party. You'll have a much better time.

Also stop and smell the roses, it sounds like you were rushing through everything and then wondering why you weren't seeing a lot. 5 hours of playtime to get from the start of your origin all the way to the fade segment of the mage tower sounds like you did absolutely zero side content.

>>377577659
meant to >>377576471

>>377577462
meant to >>377576387

>>377577659
None of this even an argument, it's just baseless rage and shitposting.

Stop shitposting DA:O threads until you have a real argument, then you can come back.

>>377576843
This.

I got this for "free" from PS Plus, tried it and thought it was the lamest shit ever.
I will never understand the appeal of WRPGs like these.

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>>377577893
Not an argument, I wrote a pretty lengthy post explaining why DAO is generic, there's absolutely nothing original to it, not even a spark. Not my fault you can't come up with a rebuttal.

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Reminder Sten is the best companion

>>377578030
It's blatantly clear you didn't do any side content, read any codexes, or spend any extra time with any of the lore.

You also admitted yourself that you spent 5 hours in a like 80 hours rpg, why do I waste my time with people like you that dont even play video games?

Neck yourself, people like you are why this board is awful now

>>377578030
Don't bother with him. I like the game but it does have its flaws.
He uses reddit spacing anyways.

>>377575850
cluche is just something traditional for a genre, the problem is not cliche, is poorly used cliche, not the case of DAO, anyway if you dont like its your problem, just dont brag your opinion like if its the ultimate true

>>377578495
Its actually because I have

Autism

>>377578160
Why should I do side content if I'm not enjoying the game at all? Let's be honest here, the combat is nothing special but the game could be held up with a great story, setting and characters. But the story is we need to fight dem not-orcs, it is a fantasy cliche central, and party members fall into the Bioware character cliches or are straight unlikable like the edgy witch bitch that requires me to act like Coldsteel to like me. What is it, does it get better after 30 hours in or what? I'm not into torture to play 80 hours of something that is boring the living shit outta me.

I just finished Divinity Original Sin recently, easily a 100 hours+ game, also fantasy setting, I don't have major issues with it, it could keep me entertained, had more varied classes than DA:O, more charming dialog, and doesn't feel like a babby's first generic fantasy game. it's just DA:O being bland, and I'm not the only one who feels that way.

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>>377578547
Dear god!

>>377569612

Yes it is. Combat is slow and disengaging, particularly if one plays as a warrior or 2W rogue.

>>377578098
He has the absolute best lines in the entire series. Both for comedy and emotional moments. Qunari lore (Something the ELVES DWARVES HUMANS ROGUES WARRIORS MAGES autist is conveniently leaving out because he played 5 hours of the game trying to do as little content as humanly possible and has no actual idea what the games lore entails.) was also super fucking dope before the butchered it in 2 and 3 into TOTALITARIAN BULLMEN. I wanted my honorable warrior muslims, Origins description of Par Vollen was incredible.

>>377578730
but since DAO it's implied the totalitarian hivemindish nature of the qun.
i would live in the qun gladly
also after dao events sten became arashok or something akin to a lider in the qun

>>377578586
It picks up the moment you get to a main quest, there's 5 on the map at the start (i believe), try going to Redcliffe, and then going to the Mage Tower. Instead of hating the companions and not trying to find more (The dog is actually fun to use in battle and not useless, has a few moments during the game where the fit him in to the scenes) like Sten or Wynne or Shale (All easily obtainable shortly before/after leaving Lothering the first time.)

>>377578531
Dragon Age Origins doesn't have cliches, it is ALL cliches. I struggle to find something of its own in it. Is racism against elves the original part? That shit must have been in some fantasy media already I bet. I never said my opinion is the absolute truth, I just posted why I find this game flawed and dull as watching paint dry, and this has nothing to do with WRPGs or CRPGs, it just comes across as Bioware being lazy when it comes to writing, setting, lore and so on. Even the art style of DA:O looks dull and an uninspired brown mess. I already pointed out how other fantasy IPs like Zelda and Dorf Fort stand out from the rest with their own shit, Zelda fuses western influences with japanese ones, Dorf has all kinds of bizarre shit going on along with the autistic amount of details, DA:O doesn't have that. It's like someone skimmed through tolkien material, put some main points in a powerpoint and designed a game around it.

People dislike this word, but DA:O's world feels soulless, it lacks an identity of its own other than "hey we're a fantasy game about humans elves and dwarves".

>>377578730
>>377579075
>we will never see a game in Par Vollen and if we do it will be in nu-Quanari cannon
It hurts

>>377579334
>I struggle to find something of its own in it
>What are the Qunari

>>377579525
good question, I don't remember meeting those

>>377579334
well, it's a fantasy eletronic rpg, before it was made there was tons of material made for years which were inspired for years of fantasy book and shit, do you really think there's no cliche rpg game? no, all devs can do is work in the cliche making it interasting and not a generic shit, simply by your opinion of morrigan(hur she's just a edgy witch who likes hurt things) shows you know nothing of the game, if you romance or even if you get aproval high enough you will know that she is more than this, just go back to your cod and be happy.
or stop baiting

>>377579674
>i dont remenber meeting those
you didnt played the game, i bet you didnt even finished the first of the 4 missions to recruit a army against the blight, expected, i am in /v/

>>377567043
>weeb detected

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>>377579674
It's not the games fault you didn't pick up a companion in the first fucking town of the game and completely fucking never realized there's a 4th race in the game.
>Dragon Age has bad writing
>What are the Qunari

This is genuinely the worst poster I've ever seen on /v/. Stop responding to him. Who is your favorite companion, and what is your favorite part of the game?

>>377579992
morrigan, the dialogue in which i jump the mirror with her

>>377579725
I don't see the point of playing a game that bores me to no end, I thought games shouldn't take 20 hours to become enjoyable according to many on /v/, I guess it's okay when Bioware does it.

>>377579725
I pointed out already 2 fantasy IPs that take inspiration from other stuff but still manage to feel fresh. DA:O also known as the human/elf/dwarf, warrior/rogue/mage game doesn't have much going for it, borrows the classes from already existing material, they're a laughably small amount of classes to build your characters around and same goes for the races. Oh the edgy cunt is sweet after you date her, what a twist. Nice goback2cod arguments though, sweet gamefaqs tier arguments you got there anon.

>>377579884
>1 companion makes up for the entire world of the fucking game being a fantasy cliches circle jerk

Nothing. It's the last good bioware game with real choices. The game gives you alot of options to work with and you can be hilariously evil

>>377580679
recomend games whose choices you made actually matter