Will this be the opposite of the year 2006 for him?

https://youtu.be/MsnzpvWNLyI
um, "no"

Sonic Mania will probably be fine though

>>377566486
I don't think this is an issue honestly. Colors and Generations were fun but fleeting, this'll at least incentivize replaying a little bit more, though maybe not much.

>>377566486
There is literally nothing wrong with this other than the millions of new sonic oc fandoms that will be created
You literally CANNOT prove me wrong

>>377566486

name 3 (four) things wrong with this without resorting to "muh dA"

Mania will probably be at least alright. I'm not expecting anything special out of Forces.

>>377566053
>customisation (e.g. Sonichu, Coldsteel the Hedgeheg)
>apocalyptic setting
>3 separate gameplay styles, instead of polishing just one

Sonic Forces is clearly a game developed with the weird side of Sonic's fanbase in mind.

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>Digital only game developed by fans who reversed engineered the original game to find out how it works turns out to be better than the AAA game it was made to promote

>>377566693
The gameplay may not be terribly fleshed out, may feel too token.
Better have multiple voices for characters or no voices at all. At least one amazingly terrible one.

>>377566486

Being perfectly honest here

The Buddy gameplay mode looks more fun that either of the Sonic modes. Mainly because both Sonics looks like more of the same, but with no improvements and actually a bit of regression from previous entries.

Buddy looks like just a standard platformer with gadgets.

>>377566914
Bionic Commando Rearmed was so fucking good. Goddamn, the future looked so bright back then.

Never did play Rearmed 2.

>>377566693
>wasted resources and employees actually adding this meaningless garbage, rather than focusing on the game
>sonic will be officially known as the hub of OC for furfaggots
>adds gameplay that isn't even sonic-styled for no reason
Nobody asked for this, but SEGA did it anyway. Why?

>>377566053
If Mania is as good as Megamix then yes. Haven't been paying attention to Forces so I don't know how that one will go.

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>Want Sonic Mania to do better
>It probably won't because every deviant """"artist"""" and pre-teen are going to buy Forces to bring their steel donuts to life

>>377567051

RE2 is pretty fun as long as you accept the fact that they changed some of the mechanics around.

The boss fights and story suffer a bit and there really isn't a climatic final boss fight (it's kind of lame compared to fighting Hitler and the escape sequence), but the level design got a massive upgrade. It's a lot more vertical than the original.

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>>377567271

>If Mania is as good as Megamix

God no

The level design is everything wrong with modern Sonic games. Whoever was in charge of level layouts in that game was obsessed with letting the game play itself for "cool" factor and having speed boosters everywhere.

The art and music and some (not all) of the presentation was top notch like the city level, but the game itself was a bore to play.

>>377567276
Sonic games tend to sell well in general. But Sonic Mania is a huge hit in the making if what i've seen is to be believed. The Pax line was pure insanity.

Sonic has to be the longest running franchise that I can think of that is also just complete garbage. How does it keep going?

>>377567486
People buy it?

>>377567971
But why? Over the last 20 years it's ranged from a 7/10 to literally like a 2/10

>>377568005
>scores

did you played the games, anon?

>>377568005
Some are decent or good. Though I guess even the dumpster fire ones sell okay.

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So what zones do you want to see in Mania?

Any confirmation if we're getting Crush 40 in Sonic Forces? I want some Dreamcast-era Sonic music again.

https://youtu.be/uEzXFuYN89k

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>>377566053
>following the success of both entries
>Mania 2 gets character creation

Is anyone other than me pissed that even though we're getting Mania they STILL decided to shoehorn Classic Sonic into Forces?

>>377571112
No confirmation, though it wouldn't shock me.

The main theme is very buttrock and there's straight up pop music in the OC character gameplay stage.

What stages do you want to see in Forces? I'd like too se an improved Wave Ocean with the same comfy music.

https://youtu.be/P_uQPe16Y2k

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>>377571187
>Is anyone other than me pissed that even though we're getting Mania they STILL decided to shoehorn Classic Sonic into Forces?
No? I'd actually wish they'd get rid of character creation and put in Dreamcast Sonic instead. It's be great to have Classic, DC and Modern Sonic team up together.

Is it compulsory to use your own character in Forces? I just want to use Sonic.

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I hate how Buddy comes to a complete dead stop in the air when he uses that grapple hook on something. It's not even a "muh momentum" kind of bitching, it just looks plain offputting when Sonic gameplay is usually so focused on keeping you moving.

>>377571619
I'm really hoping you can play as Sonic most of the game.

>>377571187
Forces has been in production since lost worlds, mania barely started at the beginning of last year for the anniversary

>>377567136
>wasted resources and employees actually adding this meaningless garbage, rather than focusing on the game
Adding a customizable gameplay feature is somehow not focusing on the game?
>sonic will be officially known as the hub of OC for furfaggots
As if it weren't already.
>adds gameplay that isn't even sonic-styled for no reason
What? All of them appear to move fast and have platforming capabilities. Not sure what else you wanted from Sonic.

Confirmed retard.

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I wonder if the Create a Character was originally going to be Boom Sonic? Considering the grapple hook and all.

I'm curious, who's for character customisation and who's against it?

Personally, it's completely pointless in my opinion. For the same reasons I wouldn't want to play as my own character in a Mario game.

i'm getting both. i will always get sonic games. i'm part of the fandom that "likes them all and doesn't really choose a side". i like platformers, i like sonic, thats all there is to it.

the sonic forces character creation thing doesnt phase me whatsoever. i was expecting it after the rumors. i have never once in my life paid any attention to any of the OC shit people make with sonic characters. and i know people do dumb shit with every game. it just means nothing to me.

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>>377572201
I just kinda see it as a whatever sort of thing that doesn't happen to sway me at all, but 80% of people I know online were flipping the fuck out over it like this is going to be the greatest addition to Sonic games ever.

>>377572201

I don't really care either way.

>OC Character seems to move just as fast as Modern Sonic when he isn't boosting
>If you don't like the gadgets you don't have to use them, save for the grappling hook, as the OC has a homing attack.

The only thing I could really complain about is that wisps are back AGAIN, but even then they seem to only be for the OC and function a bit differently.

>>377572564
i hate wisps. sonic team sure does love making up the dumbest shit

>>377572564

Modern Sonic needs White Wisps to boost, like in Colors.

>>377572564
But we already saw Modern Sonic picking up wisps.

>>377566672
spoken like a rabid furry/sonic fan

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>>377566053
Sonic Forces will probably be Lost World tier at best, considering both the Classic Sonic and the custom character modes look like ass from what we've seen so far
Sonic Mania looks good though

>>377572753
>>377572773
if he only needs white wisps to boost then fine, and i think the developers said something along the lines of the OC using "Wispons" which are there because the OC isn't Sonic.

I hope they actually give a good reason as to why the wisps aren't in space again, in Lost World I could buy that the Hex was an alien, planet thing, but if they just go "Hey wisps are here now, why? i dunno." I'm gonna be pissed.

>>377567271
>If Mania is as good as Megamix
>Wanting glorified Practice levels

>>377573006

According to Runners, some Wisps stayed back because they liked Sonic's World™.

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>Iizuka made Mania possible
>We have a perfect game for Classic Sonic fans
>shoehorn Classic Sonic into Forces anyway
>also Green Hill for the millionth time
>oh and with Sonic 4-tier shit music

Why can't this guy/Sonic Team just fuck off already? Christ. I hope word of mouth and the possible great review scores of Mania will mean sequels in the future.

I think I'm just...tired of Sonic Team being a developer team of doing -everything- middling. Never taking any chances or doing anything exciting and when they do change it up it's guaranteed terrible.

>>377573412
>Never taking any chances or doing anything exciting and when they do change it up it's guaranteed terrible.

For the sake of Devil's Advocate, if Forces stuck with Lost World's gameplay style for Modern Sonic, it probably be more refined and play better in comparison to Lost World. But everyone demanded they drop it. Boost since Unleashed (Rush arguably) has had more then one game to refine that style.

>>377573412
forces is before mania and sounds nothing like 4

>>377573659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1wYD5b4VUw

I referred to this, anon. Christ.

>>377567486
Because no matter how shit it is, its still better than the almost unplayable crap kids are used to

>>377573756
Jesus christ that looks like shit.

>>377573412
it's okay. even if you hate them, you can't deny the music is great for all of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1WXMS-tzSY

Mania will be the best game since S3K but it will get largely ignored in favor of making fun of Forces because people like making Sonic a punching bag much more than praising the times he does good.

>>377575412
>because people like making Sonic a punching bag much more than praising the times he does good.
They really do.

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>>377573412
>shoehorn Classic Sonic into Forces anyway
Why is this so hard for people to understand? Classic was ALREADY in Forces before Mania was even a thing.

Honestly, does Mania, a smaller budget, digital-only title, even look like a project that's been in development for around the same time as Forces? It's not hard to put two and two together.

>>377576071
I'd still be annoyed at it even if Mania wasn't a thing because they're leaning on it too much as a crutch now. It made enough sense in Generations but this isn't Generations anymore.

>>377576424
i remember an interview stating they specifically wouldn't use classic sonic in any more games too. seriously.

>>377576424
>they're leaning on it too much as a crutch now
What other modern game besides Generations features Classic Sonic? They're obviously just doing a "Generations 2" as a safe bet after Lost World's flop. I'm honestly more annoyed that they brought back the boost gameplay, but made no noticeable improvements to it.

I'm kinda looking forward to the Forces soundtrack more than the actual game. The classic green hill sounds like dogshit, but i'm a sucker for the Sonic pop music from CD, OVA and R and the slight tease for the OC levels had a little of that.

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up

How should I play S3&K for the first time?
Sonic 3, then Knuckles and then Complete for a second playthrough?
Or just play Complete for my first playthrough?

>>377580698
Go with Complete.

>>377580698
Complete

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So what could potentially go wrong with either of them? Sonic Mania can still slip up in something that may matter.

>>377566053

REMOVE
THE
BOOST

>>377571112
Jun Senoue isn't composing, so likely no Crush 40.

>>377572201
I don't really like it since I don't want to make a Sonic OC. Just looking at the trailer, OC guy just looks wrong being there. It isn't the end of the world, but I would've preferred these efforts put into a spin-off title rather than a pretty big mainline game.

That said, what does worry me is that this becomes a permanent thing for the franchise. You can't just introduce this sort of thing and then take it away.

>>377583824
>wanting to ruin Boostkino

>>377583513
>Mania
Level design is really the only thing. That and the amount of new to old levels. Might leave people a little disappointed in a way because it could've been more with completely new levels.

>Forces
Pretty much everything could go either way. It's hard to get judgement on how the boost will be this time. People have been reacting pretty negatively to the level design in Classic Sonic's gameplay and his gameplay in general, citing little to no improvement over Generations. I've seen pretty mixed reaction to Classic Sonic's music too.

Character creation probably is gonna have a good amount of accessories, but I don't think it'll have enough important features to satisfy many OC creators. Stuff like hair and head shape probably won't have that many options.

>>377584557
Eh, I think they could go back to no OC just fine.

>>377585750
They could have gone to no Classic Sonic just fine too.

>>377585785
Yeah, they could've. I feel like after Lost World they really wanted to fall back on their success with Generations, which is a shame.

>>377566053
If it weren't for Mania it would somehow be WORSE

Please save us Taxman

>>377585750
If they do, I'd be fine with it. I just don't think they will, especially if Forces sells well.

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>>377566486
hooooo boy what the fuck have they done

>>377571407
You could just use character creation for that.

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>SAfags

Was Sonic Generations really that good? i only played the 3ds version.

>>377587834
It's kino

>>377587834

It's one of the best Sonic games yet made.

>>377566858
they have literally no creativity and are releasing 2 versions of fanservice: the game like capcom with dead rising 4 and resident evil 7

>>377567136
>adds gameplay that isn't even sonic-styled for no reason

You've not played Sonic Colors, have you. Because it's basically Sonic Colors.

>>377571112

Likely not. Their social channels would be teasing a lot more if it were the case.

Nah, he's doomed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIonrzipI1A

>>377572809
>people are salty because furfaggotry is leaking into mainstream culture in an alarming rate
truly the best timeline

>>377566693
Less resources to make more 3D sonic levels.

>>377572201
I'm usually all for customization in games
Things like unlockable character parts and upgrades are an incentive to keep playing and unlock everything, and they can add a lot of replay value to the game.

>>377566053
Forces will be shit

Mania would be a rehash, but good

>>377572731
Why does Sonic Team love the Wisps so much? They're no different from the other dumb gimmicks in other games, and they don't even make sense outside the context of Colours
It's like if they made the Werehog or the fucking talking sword recurring characters.

>>377574356
I personally think it looks okay, apart from the overly furry grass and the unity asset tier explosion effects. Does anyone know if it's running at 60fps? It looks pretty damn smooth