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Is this a good entry level MH?

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Is this a good entry level MH?
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No, get 4U instead.
I feel sorry for anyone who's first MH was Gen.
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They're all entry level

you'll hear two responses through this thread
A/ Monster hunter generations ruined monster hunter because other people get to choose to use playstyles that casualize the experience for them, therefore buy 4U
B/ Monster hunter generations is perfectly fine but there's a large chance of the expanded version being localized soon, so save your money and therefore buy 4U
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>>377551042
Sure go ahead, it should be fine.

If you're not very good like me (I almost never Cart/Faint/Die, but I very much doubt I'm MVP), you'll find the Deviants to be particularly annoying though.
I still can't dodge right and I'm well over a thousand hours in.
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4U is a better intro to the series. Generations is fine but it's more for people who have been playing MH for a while. It's a lot of fanservicey stuff and has no story at all.

I mean MH is never gonna be a rich deep cinematic experience but I liked MH4U's story well enough. It starts off a lot easier than past games, probably still plenty of people playing online too.
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MH XXX when
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Generations is okay but I don't think it would have anything that would hook a new player. Village was so incredibly boring, and I have no idea how a new player would deal with constant literalwhos from nostalgialand if they had never played any monster hunter games before.
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>>377551042
4u has an actual tutorial and a story to play through so that's a much better introductory game.
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>>377551042
Gen or 4U is fine. Don't get both though.
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>>377551042
Assuming they are keeping styles for the future games, then yes, if no go MH4U or Comfy Tri on Dolphin, I never played 3U
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>>377551042
4u or pirate XX
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>>377551318
To add to the first point. You have the option to pick the "old" style of hunting and not equip any of the Hunter Arts. So saying Generations "ruined" Monster Hunter by adding flashy new moves and some variations on how the game plays is for mouthbreathing retards who cannot resist the things they claim to hate.

Also if you hate how other people play in Multiplayer or if you think their usage of Hunter Arts/different Styles "casualize" your experience remember playing Multiplayer with 4 hunters is casual no matter how you cut it.

Many of the randoms online are carried scrubs no matter their hunter rank. They probably never cleared Village too.

Learn how to play the game yourself first before you dive into the cancer of triple carting mongs who will beat the monster that was just brought to sleep for sleep bombing or become one yourself.
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If they don't continue with the things they added in Gen, you are going to get your face kicked in for the next mainline monster hunter because Gen lowered the skill floor so far OP. But knowing Capcom, this spinoff is going to be Incorporated into the mainline.


>>377552560
That's unfortunate. 3U is one of the best Monster Hunters.
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>>377551318
i doubt XX will be localized and it's not expanded that much anyway. As someone who transferred his endgame Gen file to XX, there was only about 10 more hours of content. I was hoping it would have been the 4U-tier upgrade that 4U was to 4, but it wasn't given how they abandoned the concept of standard sub-species for generations and carried it into XX.

I pirated it and still feel like shit. Can't imagine anyone would be dumb enough to actually buy it.
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>>377552851
If you got 10 hours of content out of XX then you must be a very well known speedrunner in the monster hunter community, what's your youtube channel?
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>>377552736
I don't get the Gen hate that much, aside from them removing the fun ways to Guard Point/Shield Change and making it so that everyone has to post their own Deviant quests to actually progress I thought it was fine.

All MH games have glaring problems anyway, I don't see why Gen's are so much of an issue.
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>>377552851
>there was only about 10 more hours of content

Added to the easy 3000?
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>>377552851
they localized MHStories, I'm sure they'll bring XX over in a year or so, Capcom seems to like the West for now
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>>377553441
>they localized MHStories
Wait, really?
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>>377553130
you don't have to be a speedrunner. they only added like 10 monsters man, many of which were in 4u but were missing from gen, and none of which include the huge mohran or dalamadur or gog fights, and the new final boss monster is actually a pushover even despite G-rank, with all the deviants highest level being "drop the game" tier levels of OHKO unfun gimmicks, with virtually no practical reward for completing them to boot.

the endgame of XX is fuckin' autistic and unfun as shit. No amount of armor transmogrification could overcome that. I'm not even a casual and the final level of deviants are still bullshit and poorly balanced even between different deviants - and all of this comes after the fact that deviant armor isn't even somewhat good anymore since the easy final boss's armor is virtually Athena's Ass Lite: The Armor set, allowing for virtually free customization of armor skills.

XX sucked cocks.
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>>377553558
yeah, it was in a Direct about a month ago, will probably come out in a few months or around E3
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>>377551042
No, play Freedom Unite on PPSSPP
The 3ds ones are casual garbage shit
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>>377553650
You count "hours of content" as if you only ever fight monsters once, as if the franchise you're discussing isn't even monster hunter

Are you retarded?
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>>377553771
yeah man, I love me some broken-ass hitboxes, gimped movesets, balancing issues worse than 4U's memeblade, and fucktons of useless subspecies
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>>377553693
Oh neat, thought we'd never get that one.
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>>377551042
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>>377553823
If you played Gen well, you will not need to make another set than what you've got. How's that for perspective? There's no reason to grind for shitty parts for shitty armors you wont be making. You'll need to do just a couple of hours of grinding to g-rank max out whatever weapon you're carrying in from Gen, and then when you beat the final boss - that's almost where all your effort is going to go into making a new set since it has such neat armor and weapons - but nothing truly interesting to deal with after that aside from the absolutely unfun super deviants.

There isn't an endgame to be happy about in XX.
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>>377551042
Newbie friendly, just don't expect to go back at FU and not get your shithole brutalised beyond repair.

Try 4U instead, it is also newbie friendly but it can make you endure you just enough shit to try older games and not get raped right away.

However if you really want veteran-like skill level then try FU.
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>yfw they remove adept in MH5
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>>377553145
Adept Style Gunlance is arguably a massive improvement to the weapon which it desperately needed. And even though the Heat Gauge is pretty badly implemented and ends up nerfing GL a bit from 4U, it's not as crippling as people make it out to be if you can actually play the weapon.
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>>377554082
There usually isn't, the fun comes from making sets for different weapons for different gimmicks for different monsters. You're clearly a very tunnel visioned individual, and so that sort of thing doesn't appeal to you as someone who only wants "a happy endgame", which has never ever been good in a monster hunter game, but don't act like your opinion is fact.
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>>377554745
I hope they do away with all the style stuff in MH5

mounting can stay though, along with the 5th gen's new gimmick, flying around BOTW style on customizable hangliders
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>>377553771
>FU
>muh reel mh ekspearyants
old and busted. P3 is indisputably the best entry level game
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>>377554854
adept GL is shit and brave GL is what it should have been.

really it was autistic of them to make adept style for most of the weapons be an easy dodge, and the weapons that didn't get the dodge ended up getting shafted with their stupid parries.
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>>377555025
Adept gunlance + the rocket boost is Goat. take that back.
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>>377554876
4U had a great endgame. Most people would agree that it actually had an endgame. Even going and helping new hunters with your maxed out end-game gear was fun.

XX has no endgame and the game was always easy for virtually everything anyway, so there's no point in even going to help newbies.

and Monster Hunter has never been about different weapons or gimmicks for different monsters sans the difference between huge damage sponge bosses and normal standard monsters.

You're just a faggot and you write like a faggot. Only you believe you're important.
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>>377555118
gunlance + dragon's breath is better than anything you'll be averaging with adept. I'd argue Dragon's Breath + Rocket Boost is goat, and you only get the most utility out of that with Guild.

Brave at least makes it easier and quicker to pull off fullbursts on top of it's mobility with brave dodging, so adept GL truly doesn't even really matter.
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>>377554854
I was talking about regular Charge Blade man, I don't know about the exploding stick.
They made it all finicky now, though it is still manageable.

I hate how you're forced to follow through with the input you used to GP. (GP into forced downward Axe swing, for example.)

>>377555326
I thought Gen was harder than 4U.
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>>377555710
why would you think Gen was harder than 4U?
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>>377555326
>says the fag using reddit spacing
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>>377553771

FU was my first MH and i fell in love with it but i really wouldn't wanna go back to that shitmix.
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>>377555848
>reddit spacing
i love this meme
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What about the WiiU one?
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>>377555819
Not him, but fuck hyper metal raths.
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*saves mh generations*
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>>377555910
it's pretty good but runs at a locked 30fps for some reason, 3G is my favorite MH game and it's a pretty decent port other than some 3ds quality textures here and there
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>>377555819
Because I had a harder time playing it? What else do you want me to say?
The monsters are too hyper (Fast is okay, but endless hopping is not) and some of them should only have been brought back after some moveset changes.
I don't believe anyone likes that Alpha Pig thing, for example.

Excluding 140GQ 4U was also fairly forgiving.
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>>377556018
*forgets about her*
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>>377556018
>five fingers
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There's no such thing as a good Monster Hunter game, entry level or not.
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>>377556235
there's no such thing as a good game*
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>>377556235
>He is a soulsfag
go back to your broken hitbox mess and ridiculous i-frames.
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>>377556018
*saves mh xx*
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>>377555936
They're even more retarded in XX's G-Rank, but still that's really only two monsters in Gen that are difficult - and they're pretty late-game.

140 GQ's were more challenging and rewarding in 4U than any hyper metal rath or the super deviants in XX, so there's some opinion on what defines being "hard" there.

I wouldn't consider the super deviants to be hard, i'd consider them broken and unfun and probably even untested. It takes speedrunners over 10 minutes with Adrenaline + Heroics to solo them, where Adrenaline and Heroics were otherwise banned / it's own category that barely didn't matter because of how much significantly easier it made an already pretty easy game.
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>>377556235
50th post best post
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>>377556484
The only other option besides Adrenaline/Heroics is https://youtu.be/NvvtEmTeP4A
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I don't care for any of the styles. I've been playing some 4u lately, and the fights are so much more fun when the monsters isn't balanced around you adept dodging and art dodging out of everything.
Both the mentioned dodges also makes the game less fun and rewarding
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Why every attack in MHX/XX feel Code Vein-tier weightless?
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>>377557250
Was thinking the same thing when using GS between 4U and Gen. Is it the visual FX I wonder?
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4U is a better entry because it'll help you not be so reliant on stuff like arts and styles. But mounting is still pretty fucking powerful.
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Salut!
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>>377555326
>4U had a great endgame
>>>>>>>>>>4U had a great endgame
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>>377557386
>Succeed in getting a friend to play MH
>They end up maining IG and rely on mount spam to actually do anything
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Grandpa
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>>377557442
4u's endgame was basically loot crates. Given how much replayability those have added to many PC games where you often pay for them with real money too, a free version of that was pretty nice.

Also, again, you could go help newbies which isn't a thing in XX since they don't need your help.
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>>377557649
Yes goy farm for those randomly generated weapons locked behind monsters that simply do more damage and have more health. What amazing end game worth spending time on.
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>>377551042
If you're new to MH You should always play the latest in the series because you'll find other people to play with online.

MHX pissed off the oldfags because it doesn't have G rank, and people can play the game anyway the want with the hunter styles.

The only real downside to MHX for someone new is that it has a fuck ton of fanservice that you're either not going to get or are going to be confused by.
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>>377557621
This fucking faggot monster is the bane of my existence since FU, but his LBG is sweet at least.
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>>377557621
I think you mean granddad
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>>377557906
>Yes goy farm for those randomly generated weapons locked behind monsters that simply do more damage and have more health. What amazing end game worth spending time on.

Not that fag you're responding to but be fair: MH is literally kill things to hopefully with good RNG make weapons to kill harder things to drop more RNG things to make more weapons
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I love how FU and 3U are completely absent from endgame arguments.
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>>377557906
>High rank is just monsters doing more damage and having more health
ok fine
>G rank is just monsters doing more damage and having more health
ok fine
>140 is just monsters doing more damage and having more health
wtf? NO! fuck that!
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>3U
>Swimming wasn't so bad, but definitely needed some tweaks.
>4U
>'Verticality' wasn't so bad, but definitely needed some tweaks.

Swimming's movesets needed to be more similar to movesets while on ground, and underwater movement needed to be more intuitive, or at least needed to go into more detail how dodging worked underwater.
'Verticality' and mounting needed to have more weapon classes capable of being able to mount monsters without a shitton of ledges all over the map, since fighting around ledges would often lead to unneeded damage being taken due to a dodge being changed from interacting with a ledge. And mounting? It was nonsensical that anyone other than the mounter harming the monster could cause the mounter get thrown from the monster should it flinch.

Its still a shame they actually took the time to do quality of life changes for their verticality and mounting, but just removed swimming altogether.
t. Huntard whose first game was 3U
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>>377551042
Generations and 4U are the ones you should be considering.
Generations is the vs. of Monster Hunter
4U is the regular Street Fighter of Monster Hunter
So choose whichever one fits you. But know that Charlotte only plays Generations so you will definitely want to factor that in when making your mind up.
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>>377558281
>Dos
>Seasons/Bounties weren't so bad, but definitely needed some tweaks
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People who say that one MH is good and another is bad are idiots. They're all great, and there's no bad place to enter the series.
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>>377553864
Is there any reason to keep playing FU when I have access to P3rd?
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I hope monster hunter 5 just completely ignores all the older monsters and just makes a whole new roster. Never happens though, it's always the same shit. "Oh look, rathalos. Oh look, le ebin invader deviljho. Tigrex, of course. End high rank where is he... ah there's the rajang." Fuck this. Fuck japan and their nostalgia boner
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>>377558620
I just hope it's not on the 3ds again. My hands can't take it anymore.
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>>377558620
Any future Monster Hunter game is almost guaranteed to add two new types of Rath that are nearly identical to fight to every other one.
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>>377557556
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>>377558208
You forgot the part when new ranks introduce new monsters and subspecies, and give every monster new moves and attacks and atributes.
Only 140GQ is literally "just more health and attack", which it's not even that because you can't fight most of the monsters like that, only select ones.
Also
>defending loot crates
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The world can never have enough raths
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>>377558620
>Removing the franchise's flagship and his waifu
>Removing tigrex and his clone army
>Removing the game's real casual filter
fuck jho tho, he is a boring cunt.
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when is /ourguy/ going to return to the main games?
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>>377558874
Just accept that Shagaru bombed your ass back to the camp
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>>377559093
I can be the Yama you want, bb
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>>377552736
Man I'll never forget the time a monster went to sleep, I snuck up on it, placed a bomb by its head, unsheathed my charge blade, started getting into position, then this mouthbreather runs up and pokes it in the legs with his SnS, and this was late G-rank, and he didn't understand why I was mad after either

Only time I ever had a bad experience playing with people from /mhg/
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>>377558874
>Only 140GQ is literally "just more health and attack"
Doesn't the Thunder Puppy get an entire new charge level with it's own twists on the moves?
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>>377559181
No need for such measures.
I play exclusively offline.
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>>377559259
Zinogres starts off supercharged and when you knock it out, it retains some of its charge left instead of losing all of it.
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>>377559185
Man, like. What a cool idea for a boss. Just a big weird squid blob thing but it uses the bones of dragons and shit to make itself look like some undead monstrosity.
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>>377559181
Your Shaggy is looking a little low-res, friend.
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>>377559389
Astral set in Spla2n when.
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>>377559321
So 140s were too much for you to solo?
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>>377556350
>I hate MH so that obviously means I'm a Soulsfag
Souls games are trash too.
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>>377559389
And then they made it the most underwhelming boss fight possible, jesus that thing is boring to fight, even moreso than other gimmicky elders like jhen and dala
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>>377559547
name a good game
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>>377559361
Thought it got a yellow-ey glow and a few changes to the timing/pattern of it's lvl 3 attacks or something like that? Same deal with Rath's combo changes in High to G Rank.

I don't know, It's been a while and I only fought it a few times with my Random Buddy.
I wasn't trying to argue against you, mate.
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>>377559438
thx, it is because I'm not using my main computer so I don't have my MH folder.
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>>377559020
Yes i'd remove all of those if it meant new monsters in their place. It's such a breath of fresh air when there's a new one to hunt. I really hope XX gets localized, i can't wait to hunt valfuck or the mantis
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>>377559701
Gigginox X Khezu challenge mission when?
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>>377551268
fpbp
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>>377558619
not really, unless you want to be challenged in an obnoxious way
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>>377559774
>Now with 10x more screaming which might as well be the quest BGM
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>>377559701
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>>377559774
I'm guessing that Stories don't have gigginox, but I will train the world strongest khezu.
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>Playing MH past F2G
Ayy lmao yall children need to get the fuck in bed.
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>>377560027
>screaming might as well be the quest BGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbA3VXdhShU
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>>377558858

> tfw you'll never be the don of the egg syndicate again
> tfw you'll never drunkenly sing the egg syndicate theme with your hunter buddies at the tavern and lure everyone into singing such a catchy song even though it refers to something that would blacklist you from the guild.
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>superman dive through the roar and still get caught in the roar hitbox for the full duration
>monster hits the wall while charging and slides, dragging you into the hitbox
>you dodge, but there's a ledge making you jump and get hit
>monster takes flight to change area right as the paintballs runs out
>this same monster decided to fly away the moment you set a trap
What other shit pisses you off?
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>>377560507
MHGen robbing me of the ability to kill monsters while they move between zones.
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>>377560507
stun
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>>377560027
Think about the screams you could hear from both your buddies and the adorable little leeches still hanging from the ceiling after jumping up 5 minutes ago.

Why not a Screaming Banshee Khezu Deviant while we're at it? How about a *Vampire Themed Title* Gigginox? Really dig their nails in and leave the players screaming.

>>377560407
Thought it was just gonna be silence again, but that's even better.
1:03 Khezu-chan is cute.
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>>377560507
Lance user decides that it's time to give you a gentle back massage using his weapon
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>>377560720
The problem with stun is that it triggers on the gentlest fucking chip damage

Which means that taking negligible damage twice still has huge potential to completely fuck you, despite you not taking any actual risks
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>>377560507
>superman dive through the roar and still get caught in the roar hitbox for the full duration
gunners don't care about most roars
>monster hits the wall while charging and slides, dragging you into the hitbox/you dodge, but there's a ledge making you jump and get hit
Gunners are experts at positioning so you never find yourself in such situation
>monster takes flight to change area right as the paintballs runs out
Paint shot
>this same monster decided to fly away the moment you set a trap
aggro+paralisis

>bladememers
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>>377561104
uncanny valley as fuck
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>>377561104
>>377561216
That looks terrible though?
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>>377561104
>>377561216
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>>377561561
Who's this adorable dragon?
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>>377561746
Estrellian. MHO's flagship monster.
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>>377561746
The Australian Star Drake
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>>377561964
>>377562019
6/10 Would Hunt.
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>>377551268
First post, best post.
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I'm new to this games, I just want to say fuck you whoever suggested the idea of sharping your fucking blades.
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>>377562807
Hey, at least durability means something in MH unlike a certain game out there
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>>377562807
It is meant to make you learn long oppenings, or just use a fucking gun and forget whetstones forever (and instead learn bullet fuckery).
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>>377562807
Then go for weapons with large chunk of sharpness
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>>377563064
>>377563054
Thanks, I'll try with a gun.
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>>377551042
3U or 4U are much better and decent starting points. As someone who disliked Gen, I wouldn't recommend it.
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>>377563202
Rathalos kills Gore, and evolves into a superwyvern
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>>377563202
>That feel when you're so used to low res models that high res just looks wrong.
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>>377563202
let me guess the monsters attack new york
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>>377563194
Gunning is rather money consuming, I wouldnt recommend it too strongly
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>>377563618
Toronoto, since the VFX company is based there.
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>>377563618
Can't make a game movie about that universe, oh no, gotta have that shit invade our world so we can all relate about it being so whacky
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>>377563202
>budges $80,000,000
>30 minutes of nothing happen
>2 minutes of rath
>3 minutes of gore
>15 minutes of runnning
>5 minutes of fighting rath
>3 minutes of more running
>movie end
>$300,000,000 at the box office
>big success
>part 2 coming in two years
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>>377563764
50 million budget actually
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>>377562807
Once you get past the levels of sharpness where the moment it goes down you're bouncing like a motherfucker, it gets a lot better.
Plus getting used to the openings and pacing of a monsters means you'll have plenty of openings to freshen up.
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>>377563202
Here is your cast fampai

>White, American soldier uses SnS (have a crush with the obligatory female character)
>Obligatory female character uses Bow (muh strong independient woman)
>Black dude uses GS (your average tough black dude, will be injured protecting the team)
>Edgy white guy uses DS for maximum edge (have a crush with the obligatory female character but get rejected, is the cause of why the black dude got injured, very edgy)
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>>377563973
How do they make so much profit every time make it stop
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>>377564108
It means that that is what the public wants. Much like MH on 3DS. Of course there's no other choice so you wouldn't know the outcome of an alternative.
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>>377563645
Don't listen to him, that is a meme, it is only money consuming at the start when you have no money.
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>>377564313
Exactly, and this guy clearly just started
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>>377551318
desu Gen could've been better if it cut down on all the excess gathering quests and small monster kill quests, and used the N3DS's more powerful hardware to get 60fps
anyway buy 4U
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>>377563202
>A Felyne character eventually appears in the MH movie
>True to form, his dialogue is comprised entirely of cat puns
>General audiences hate him
>Felynes start appearing on "top ten most annoying video game characters" lists
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>>377564395
If gen, stones up the ass till you get an elemental gun and then Normal LV2 at high rank if LBG or anything strong if HBG.

If 4U Normal shot LV2 Cross Bowgun comes pretty early or anything strong if HBG.

Normal LV2 is effective and yet very fucking cheap and is reliable for both LBG and HBG.
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>>377564763
Well, lots of people would probably put them there already.
Not everyone is blessed with the ability of Catmancy.
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>>377563202
Only possible good thing the movie could offer is the city destruction the monsters cause. I want to see Brachy blowing people up.
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>>377564763
>>377564868
>Cats are now permanent additions.
>Mask Bro's are forever condemned to side quests/DLC givers.
Literally the worst decision they've made.
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>>377564763
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>>377565125
Shakas were truly shit for me.
Did nothing, contributed nothing, any attempt at dancing was instantly canceled.
Meanwhile my cats have been on-point ever since FU where a single cat punched 3 Monobloses to death.

While I wouldn't mind the choice between them so everyone is happy, Cats are truly superior in my book.
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>>377564763
Nobody cared about RE games after the movies, nobody will care about MH games after the movies. They'll be treated as separate things.
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>>377565406
I have basically the same opinion, just switch the cats around with the Mask Guys.

I really like the different features of the Masks, and the cats feel really bare in comparison. Mask Bro's look better too.

It's basically just opinions though, really.
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>>377565919
Cats>Shakafuckers

But I'm a guard lance user so fuck both.
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>>377563202
to be honest monster hunter's universe is not even too animeish, dropping an entire world and choose your generic action film is retarded
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>>377566184
Sure, loli cat idols singing in airships while all the characters give 0 fucks about deadly giant monsters around them is not anime at all.
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>>377566184
Nobody else would've forked out the money for a movie.
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>>377564763
I hate what they did with the cats with recent localizations. They weren't annoying pun centrals before.
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>>377551042
I'd say play MHGen simply because that's the way the series is going.
Having an end game armor will help you when XX comes out since you can just transfer the save over and start at G-rank. Unlike 4U which didn't have it's high-rank only version localized, most people will be doing the save transfer.
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>>377561561
>great sword user flipping around like a jedi
This is some stupid shit.
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>tfw no mhxx on vita
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>>377564108
Asian countries.
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>>377568885
almost as stupid as style bullshit in X
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MH5 will be open world, you heard it here first
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I love the taste of Dragon Toadstools
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>>377569572
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