So how is it?

Utterly forgettable.

I'll tell you in a bit, haven't started it yet. Also I'm waiting to finish prey cause almost done. Reviews said it had a few surprises in store that they wouldn't ruin so I'm going to see for myself.

>>377544721
Worth it on sale at least?

>>377544771
>Also I'm waiting to finish prey cause almost done
Heh, I'm looking at The Surge because my game of Prey broke and I'm waiting, hoping a patch will fix my broken 30 hours in saves.

>>377544636
I think it's pretty great

>>377544636
It's terrible.

>>377544783
I think it's worth it at $50
definitely worth it on sale

>>377544636
Great game. Definitely worth getting,

>>377544636
Meh I regret purchasing it.

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Almost as good as Lords of the Fallen.

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Combat is a lot of fun.
World is very connected like DS1, but all the areas look kinda similar.
Not that much weapon variety, kinda like BB.
Crafting stuff is good.
Implants are good and actually let you make up "builds" on the fly.
Enemies deal a ton of damage, every trash mob can fuck you up if you dont watch out, which can be annoying after a while.
Game actually has a story that kept me playing, because I wanted to know wtf happened.
Game looks pretty good, crashed once in 25 hours of play.
If you like soulsgames, this one will be fun for you.
People who say its like Lords of the Fallen, or even worse, are out of their fuckin mind.

>>377546981
Get a trip code. You have some of the most retarded opinions I've ever seen.

>>377547123
Tell me about it sonybro

>>377544636
Eh I'm enjoying it, most times I have no idea where I'm supposed to go or supposed to do. Almost couldn't find it, thought Prey was the American title for a second

Why does blocking continually drain stamina?
How does standing there with your guard up and not getting hit tire you out?

If you dont like games that have apparent flaws dont play it, other that that there is fun and challenge to be had here, but they went a bit overboard with some enemy placements and hp and damage

You know, it's not terrible. It's pretty decent.
I thought it was awful because I kept playing it like a Souls game, but once I just played it as its own thing. It was pretty enjoyable.

If you're going play it, just throw out anything Souls related out of your head.

>>377548729
shame it's marketed as a souls-like

>>377548886
>marketed

No, you mean idiots on the internet that have to compare everything to other games

This game is aggressively subpar. The combat is fucking terrible, and the bosses are fucking awful. The only vaguely decent thing about this game is a few of the songs and a really good job on sound work, and that's about it. The level design is garbage, the amount of copypaste hallways is actually a seriously counterproductive feature, and the vast majority of enemies in the game are brainless hoverbots and other assholes in power armor. The only boss that was actually good was the 5th boss, and considering the game ends in probably the lamest way I have ever seen a video game end in history, I can safely say this is not worth a full purchase by any metric. If you can find it sub-$30, it's worth a consideration. $20 is the highest I would ever pay for this dreck again.

>>377549039
it's the game's fault for presenting itself as a souls-like

not to mention their previous game was also a souls-like that sucked

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>>377549039
Example
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-surge-has-souls-like-combat-but-is-best-approached-from-a-bloodborne-state-of-mind/

There's a skeleton of a great game to be found in The Surge, but it's just that: a framework with unrealized potential. I could see a sequel becoming a genuinely good title, but only if they really work on giving it some real substance and tinkering with some some shit. I really disagree with how they made armor values effectively useless compared to just straight boosting health, and I hate how all of the exoskeletons have massive gaping structural vulnerabilities.

>>377544636
is it like nioh?
play it once and never look back?

>>377547123
>calls him a retard
>doesn't refute any of his points
kek

>>377549406
I actually liked Nioh quite a bit.

I wanted to enjoy this shitty game, but the enemies and bosses ruined it for me. It's not necessarily that the main combat is genuinely bad as much as there is nothing worthy of mastery in the entire game. Everything has comically slow telegraphed attacks, or ridiculously fast attacks you need to look in the future to know when to block or dodge. Enemies in the map are either piss easy and not even worthy of fighting, or they are so fucking fast that it's pretty much pointless to do anything but constantly dodge and eventually slip in smaller weapon attacks to chip them out. The game clearly wasn't tested at length, and if it was, the testers are retarded.

>>377549468
so did i but i wont play it again in the next 5 years
whereas i finish bb once every a couple of months

I liked it but then it seemed kinda boring with time
its not worth the effort since u only have 1 base and u respawn there everytime u die

>>377544636

It's honestly pretty good if you like challenging games. Every enemy does shittons of damage, so you've gotta git gud at blocking/dodging or you'll get your shit wrecked very easily.

That said, it is buggy. People have reported progression killing bugs (unable to grab some items), and I personally got a bug literally right before the last boss that is forcing me to restart the whole game as the door to him simply will not open. But that isn't the first game to do this to me, but neither should it be excused for that.

Overall though, I'm having a lot of fun with it, and am using this 2nd playthrough to get the 2.0 boss weapons, which I missed out on except for the axe.

There's a quick save and quick load under F5 and F8, respectively, and it seems like it's a feature that's left out from beta testing cause every time you quick load, it respawns all enemies. Take that as you will.

>>377551209
>2.0 boss weapons
Elaborate man, there's a second version of the weapons?

>>377549372
>I hate how all of the exoskeletons have massive gaping structural vulnerabilities.

Fuck, this.

>Liquidator suit
>Designed for HazMat work
>Not fully sealed, giant gaps in the suit pieces
>Doesn't even fully protect against toxic waste or gas

>>377551307
I heard that QS and QL are being patched out.

>>377551378
I'm not surprised to hear that, like I said, it's a clear overlook.

Worth pirating. Not paying for.

Thanks Codex

>>377551209

Oh, and it plays more like Bloodborne than Dark Souls. It's faster, isn't filled with a thousand useless weapons, and definitely rewards aggression over trying to sit back and turtle it up. There still are shitty weapons yeah, but generally you're going to find some good ones pretty quick, and the upgrade system is mercifully easy to use.

>>377551353

If you kill the bosses in specific ways-For example, killing the first boss ONLY by knocking him over by smacking his legs, never once letting his own missiles knock him over-You get more powerful versions of the boss weapons with a 2.0 moniker attached to them (ie: PAX 2.0, etc). These boss weapons sometimes have special effects, like the 2nd bosses weapon shooting fire blasts or making rings of fire around you, or the 4th bosses weapon shooting big arcs of electricity from certain attacks.

>>377544636
All the fun of the Souls series with zero depth.

So its shit.

>>377551830
Ok ok.

>>377551830
>>377551951

And fuck, they have different damage values too. The 2.0 versions do more damage, and sometimes the types of damage are different too.

The game is a solid 7.5 or 8/10 or so. It's not perfect, but it's challenging and it's a solid game, progression destroying bugs not withstanding anyway. Hopefully it gets patched soon.

>>377551883
It has more mechanics to it than any of the Souls games though. What do you mean by depth?

>>377552040
>What do you mean by depth?
Designed by Japanese.

>>377552145
oh, true in that regard

>>377549406
yeah

>>377547968

So you don't stand there like a shitter with your weapon up all day trying to bait an attack. It forces you to be reactive.

tl;dr It discourages Dark Souls style blocking

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>>377552040
>It has more mechanics to it than any of the Souls games though. What do you mean by depth?
>Weapon scaling
>Stats
>The amount of bosses
>Optional bosses
>Npc questlines that go places and have different outcomes
>Factions
>Multiplayer coop and PVP
>More areas than just "A factory"
>Run and roll adjustments based on stats and armor
>Magic
>More weapon types and movesets
Gee I don't know what I mean by depth at all.

>>377552040
>It has more mechanics to it than any of the Souls games though.

post them.

The Quick Look I saw made it seem like it was a sci-fi Lords of the Fallen

>>377549372
it's an exo skeleton, not power armor

>>377552825
It is.

Except in Lords of the Fallen you could actually choose builds. You don't really choose builds, you just pump core power which unlocks implants, which are tied to literally everything, including your healing items.

Core power is a shit mechanic. If you're wearing heavy armor, you can't use all your implants without sacrificing them for auxillary power cores.

>>377552682
>Gee I don't know what I mean by depth at all.
It seems you don't.

>>377552920

And?

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>>377549372
>>377551357
NO WEAKNESS
also costs 0 power and has great defenses

>>377552825
>post them.
He can't, its bait. The game is Souls with 90% of it stripped out till all that is left is the basic building blocks, the combat, the hard hitting enemies and the bonfire/souls system.

How do upgrade health
I get two shotted in Executive Forum
100 health

R&D and beyond is pure hell, I feel like I am making progress very slowly.

>>377553158
Slot max health implants fagit.

Also upgrade your armor.

>>377553005
i'm dumb and should have read your post better

Worth a pirated playthrough for me

>>377553229

Slot +HP implants and buff your armor. I went from taking 113+ damage when I had 100HP, to taking less than 80 and having over 200HP by doing so.

>>377553229
I feel like I've hit a wall in the Nucleus. Fuck those crystal things.

You.. cannot miss.. what you have never seen before..

>>377553407

Those things are kind of ridiculous. It's better just to run past them more often than not. Also, their big crystal shot, far as I can tell, always one shots you if it hits you directly, and has an AOE splash to it.

>>377552682
half of that is just content though.

>>377554059
It doesn't one-shot you but it does deal a fuckton of damage. I have 300 health or so and one hit from that cuts me down to below 100.

Does a garden grow overnight? Was Rome built in a day?

>>377554059
>It's better just to run past them more often than not.
I'm stuck at a part where there are 2 of them in front of a power conduit that I need to overcharge, I think. At least I can kite one of them at a time.

>>377554365

Ah yeah, that part sucked. Just try to kite them, yeah, and focus one at a time.

>>377554169

Really? Shit even with near maxed Def on a heavy suit it was still fucking one shotting me. I can't imagine what it'll do in NG+.

>>377552682
that's not "depth" when literally all the combat amounts to is press r1 and abuse iframes

>>377554646
>abuse iframes
What besides the execution animations have iframes? I've never been able to dodge through any attacks.

>>377554646
checkmate
but they're weebs who use anime pictures and don't understand what they argue, so ths won't ever make it through to them

>>377554596
Don't bother with defense anon, I tried maxing out my Cerberus set, huge amount of defense (close to 200 or so) and I still get done in very quickly by the security forces. Abuse the fast as fuck dodge, use a fuckton of health and stamina implants and use the Gorgon set's bonus for faster stamina regen. Nothing will be able to touch you.

>>377554794
i'm talking about dookie souls

>>377554794
I think he's talking about Souls game not having depth, not the Surge.

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>>377544636

>>377555012
>>>/9gag/

>>377554596
>Really? Shit even with near maxed Def on a heavy suit it was still fucking one shotting me. I can't imagine what it'll do in NG+.

Defense isn't nearly as good as lots of max health, I've found. I almost feel like I wasted my Nano Cores on my Gorgon armor.

>>377553052
>that horrific chromatic abberation in the top left corner
Dude, what the fuck?

>>377555121
omg I am literally blinded!!!

>>377544636
It's alright. I have hopes that they'll further refine it.

>>377555110
Gorgon is the best set.

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>>377544636
Havn't played it op, but it's the top selling casual game on steam. so that's something

>>377554363
We all know the answear to these questions and FUCK THOSE FUCKING MECHANICAL SPIDER FUCKS GOD DAMN

Pretty bad. Didn't have it in me to finish it.

>>377555881
lol wtf soulsfags are pathetic

>>377556017
>Even our valiant hero, Anon, did not have what it takes to enjoy a game
damn......

>>377554363
Shut the fuck up Don you piece of shit. Literally kill yourself.

>>377555121
you can probably disable it i'm just not masterrace enough to give a fuck about grafix

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>>377554646
>Bringing up combat issues and iframes in a fucking Surge thread
>Entire dodge is an iframe
>Combat amounts to dodge strikes
Lmao

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Heavy duty or single Rigged?

>>377554646
>all the combat amounts to is press r1 and abuse iframes
DarkSouls.txt

>>377557291
confused anon

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>>377557247
Staff master race

Rigged plebs need not apply

Combat is insanely repetitive. Same 4-5 enemy types throughout the whole game, same fighting style no matter what - except you hit slightly faster or slower.
Level design is the biggest fucking dogshit I've seen in the past 10 years. Just terrible.
Protagonist has zero personality or charisma.
NPCs and quests are shallow as fuck.
Story is generic.
No replayability.

It's not good at all. At least the hitboxes are better than Lords of the Fallen, but pretty much nothing else is. However if you care about social issues and inclusivity and all that you'll be happy because this thing has more brown people in it than your nearest mosque.

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>mfw the map is better designed than DaS2 and DaS3

>>377557247
Twin-rigged only. I've been using the Firebug ever since I got it. Slapped on a shitton of stamina implants, put on the Gorgon set and wail on fuckers. The extra impact causes them to stagger every 3-4 hits and since those hits fly out fast as fuck, they just can't do a single goddamned thing about it.

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>>377556117
>mfw he did

Seriously one of the most satisfying moments in gaming, seeing a hipster douchebag hang himself.

>>377556117
>He actually did

>>377556148

>>377558131
That's the joke.

>>377557405

Are there any good staffs in the game? Twin rigged gets some brutal weapons, and single rigged gets the PAX 2.0 right off the first boss as basically the best single rigged weapon in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmR1ehmmwkc

>>377558642
The Spitfire Rod you get off of Big Sister is pretty great, I eventually switched to Codename: Carmina since I didn't get the 2.0 version of the spitfire.

Speaking of which, does the Spitfire 2.0 do anything cool like the Firebug?

>>377558642
What's even the point of staffs? They don't seem to have longer reach, at least not significant enough to make a difference and they're only slightly faster than single rigged weapons. What's their specialty?

>>377558974
AoE, they got spin2win.

>>377559121
But it's rare as fuck to be swarmed by enemies.

like all new western games, it's garbage

>>377558974

Variety I guess. They don't seem to be bad weapons.

Honestly which weapon you use seems to matter more than the type. The PAX 2.0, Firebug 2.0, hell, all the 2.0 boss weapons seem pretty good.

Also, does the PAX 2.0 do anything special? I know the firebug has it's fire kamehameha's and the axe has it's energy waves, but whats the PAX do? Same with the other 2.0 boss weapons, whats their special gimmick if any?

>>377558974
Single-rigged felt too slow for me, and Staffs do have a bit more reach, especially with their strong and fast as fuck forward step attack.

>>377559946

Single rigged I noticed usually starts with a slow ass swing but transitions into a fast as fuck elbow.

>>377559946
MG Legionnaire has the highest thrust damage in the game(I think), dash attacking with it is crazy cheese

>>377557662
Yeah, the level design (mechanically) is top-notch.
Aesthetics, not so much but it's an industrial facility so it's as you would expect from such a place.

so how the fuck do you kill robots in this game. I'm at the second area now and both the arc welder bots and the tripod fuckers absolutely fuck my shit

mob damage is fucking insane and needs a rebalance, armor doesn't matter for shit in this game which is retarded

>>377560964
Armor does matter for stability at least, compare Lynx and Rhino - the second will let you truck through hits without being staggered where the other gets knocked out of animations all day erry day.

>>377560964

Depends on the robot. The big welder ones with the torches though, you damage their front leg, then go around and wail on the back leg for massive damage.

The dog robot fuckers though, I have no fucking clue. They're fast and hit like a fucking truck.

As for armor, it matters, but you NEED TO SLOT STATBOOSTS INTO YOUR FUCKING SLOTS. I think thats an issue people are having, is they just don't slot in +HP and shit. Do that. Put +HP in there, you'll find your survivability goes through the fucking roof with extra HP.

Also upgrade your armor values, it actually does a lot of good. You'll take big damage, but not so much it isn't manageable if you fuck up, VS being nearly 1 shot by everything.

>>377560964
With tripods, break off the "tail" leg and they get a lot less dangerous. Their lunge is the biggest problem so don't give them space.

Welders, learn to leap and duck their sweep attacks and then counter, you can stun them then hit the rear leg for actual decent damage.

>>377560964
The game wants you to use the jump/duck dodge to avoid and counter the arc welder bot's sweeps. I just circle around until it goes for an attack then smack it in it's weak rear leg.

>>377561235
>The dog robot fuckers though, I have no fucking clue. They're fast and hit like a fucking truck.

They make a specific noise when going for their leap attack. Dodge it and use a slide attack to catch up and hit them. You can break their front legs to disable the jump or cut the tail off for a free ancillary core.

Their quick tail swipe is blockable and can be countered, too. I haven't had much success with that though.

>>377561372
their lunge is the easiest attack to bait and punish

>>377561235
Is it supposed to stagger them? I beat on their ass all day but they never give an opening to get the back leg and they eventually just wreck me
I have all the +HP boosts I've gotten slotted in too and it's not really helping.

How do you guys deal with those crystal fuckers in the Nucleus? Every fight I have with them just feels like desperate flailing.

>tfw don't know if the game is bad or it's just worst fanbase being worst fanbase

>>377561547

Target their front leg, hit it until it has an electrical effect on it, it slows them down so you can strafe around and beat on their back leg.

Where to go after voting scene? This game is never clear what to do next.

>>377561587
Game is a soft 7/10.

Worst fans are indeed being worst fans.

good game my only issue is with iframes. do they even exist in the game?

>>377561235
>The dog robot fuckers though
Did you know they stagger? I use the Bloodhound (Mk III) on them. I usually wait till they lunge and then side dash twice. Three hits to top tail usually do the trick, 3-4 hits to the front legs finishes them. Then again I have 3 Mk III stamina and 1 Mk V stamina ups and use the lynx to abuse the twirl.

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>>377561587

The game is solid. It's not going to blow your mind, but it's not a piece of shit either. It's worth playing, but for what price that is up to you. It is difficult though, and despite everyone calling it "hurr durr Dark Souls", it plays more like Bloodborne than DS.

I'd personally clock it around a high 70's game. You know, 78-ish or so. It has some bugs that do need patching, because they can completely null your playthrough by preventing progression.

>>377561667
The walkway across from the board room suddenly fills with guards. Why don't you check out what they're protecting?

>>377561564
The mimics or the blobs? Mimics you just go for a unarmored bit and smash away. The blobs tho are a pain in the ass with no easy way to deal with. I ended up just going in with dash attacks then dodge away over and over. just don't get hit by their laser, giant thrown crystal, and avoid those little fucks they spawn and it's not super hard as long as you keep healed up.

Or just run past the fuckers.

>>377561614
Hmm, I'll go try that

Those two staff fuckers near the start of that area are fucking ridiculous too, even if you pull one it becomes LOL AMBUSH xD after a couple of seconds and then one does near instant ranged stun and it's RIP, just fucking how, I keep countering the first one when he comes in range but then he plays keepaway until his buttbuddy shows up to 2v1 me

>>377561838
Great, now i need to get back through all those 50 hyper niggers and their dogs to get back there.

>>377562032
The mimics are thost top-spinning guys? They're no problem as long as I don't panic and start mashing.

The blob things are what wreck me every time. I really can't figure out what to do besides "keep moving, stay the hell away and land a dash attack whenever they show an opening".

>>377562062

Those guys are sort of like Black Knights when you encounter them-They're tougher and hit harder than the other enemies the first time you get into that area, and their armor is meant for higher leveled characters.

>>377562062
Those become super common late game and are entirely optional early on, they aren't guarding anything. But if you can get one of their staffs they are pretty good early on. Gorgon is also the best armor in the game too if you ask me so it's worth trying to get all the pieces early if you feel lucky. They don't respawn either so be aware of that.

>>377562224
It's honestly not worth fighting the blobs. Avoidance is the best option if you ask me. They hit too hard, have tons of health, require a special execution to take down and don't even give comparably good scrap.

>>377562294

I don't know if Gorgon is the best. You can just slot the implant that cuts 25% off dodging stamina costs and it basically means you have infinite stamina due to that alone. Faster regen at that point is kind of moot, and other sets have some pretty nice effects.

Dead space combined with dark souls but less dark

How are those heavy armored fucks so fast. They swing those heavy weapons like it's nothing.

>>377562410
It's not about the evasion stamina, it's being able to swing away forever with minimal downtime, that regen is great. Only gorgon and lynx are any good honestly. Everything else is mediocre or garbage.

Friendly reminder to just give Davey the meds. I found his body outside a little away from OPS (past the elevator along the bridge just before the gun emplacement, where the tripod dog is), he didn't make it far.

Fast Souls

>>377562717
I never found the meds.

>>377562717
Also if you complete all of Irina's sidequest Remember to cut off her right arm when she tries to kill you to get her Peacekeeper staff.

>>377562893
They're in the greenhouses in one of the side rooms. I think you need to use the drone to open the door.

>>377562893
drone overload point in the main greenhouse top floor if I remember right.

>>377562956
>spoiler
NO, BEST GIRL WOULD NEVER

>>377560964
for the tripods you gotta dodge a lot.
bait close attacks from the tail, dodge out, dodge in for attack, then dodge out.

if the tripod does the flip and backs away, you gotta dodge away, then either dodge in twice and attack, then dodge out..
OR, move laterally while waiting for the jump, then dodge just as it leaves the ground, dodge in attack, dodge out.

>>377553158
Compared to dark souls it has better combat and level design, like i know where a shortcut should be based on the layout. Each weapon is fun to use and has like 20 different attacks you can use. Really highlights how simplistic dark souls combat is.Blocking works but youre encouraged to go more bloodborne style with it. So far i can actually figure out the bossess strategies on the first go, and the #1 strategy isnt "hit their ass until they die". No character creation but i never really used that. They did a cool spin on upgrading system where in story youre upgrading youre exo suit, not just becoming smarter by 2 points. They dont really flesh out on your character and why he would go through all of it. You get a drone that works like spells but you build mana by doing damage and timing attacks better

>>377562693
(bloodied)proteus is good, increased healing + poise
uses a lot of power though

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>>377563028
>mfw when she literally got Kojima'd and I had to put her down like the rabid dog she was

>>377563680
Proteus is ok, but the healing is too slow. Nice that they give a slight attack speed boost but the drone power increase sucks hard. Gorgon, a couple health injectors, a power to health, and some implanted electrodes beats out proteus set(and everything else) imo. Its just the perfect blend of defense and utility. -50% drone cost, crazy good stamina regen, not super high power cost.

>>377562956
I tried to give her a staff but no dice?

>>377562717

When does he die? I gave him the meds and he went all crazy, but he's still hanging out at Ops. I'm at the Executive Forum.

F Hobbes though, Jo did nothing wrong.

>>377564253
I never use the drone honestly
and while the regen on Proteus is negligible, it also boosts all your health injectables by 25%. Works great with the energy to health thing

>>377564491
There's a different staff in that level, once you find it you can give it to her.

>>377564491
She already has a pipe, she's asking for something better.

You can either give her a staff from the security guards around the area, or give her the BioMaster you can find after the boss. Dpn't worry about losing the BioMaster, you can get another one in the Bio Labs.

>>377564503
he doesn't die if you gave him the meds. He jus goes nuts from hearing all the other voices and having other networked minds in his head. three blind mice

>>377564617
oh and there's the poise. the main reason I use it over gorgon.

I wish we could get that little stun gun the security guards use as a drone or something. I almost never use drones aside from the Kinetic barrier and maybe the blaster to aggro dudes from long range.

>>377564503
Decided to leave him and head to R&D. After I got back to Central Production he was gone. Asked Hobbs said Davey left in a hurry. I was over thinking things though. Thought the quest would branch out, instead its just a straight fail.

>>377564617
>never use the drone
Really? I'm popping a shield, getting a free knockdown or burning some dudes all the time. I mean, of all the other sets I will agree proteus is the least shitty so it's not a horrible choice, I did use it myself for a while. But it's not even close to as good as lynx or gorgon for me.

>>377564813

Where do you get the kinetic barrier? Whats it do?

>>377564880
You find it in the Executive Forum. It just reduces the damage you take while it's active.

>>377564880
R&D, you take half damage for the duration.

>>377564836
I didn't even realize you could charge the drone before I got to NG+

>>377564836
Personally I forget I have it because I'm all about that dodge. All I got so far is the laser and the concuasive. I'm guessing it knocks people down? What drones are good for a boss?

>>377564928
>>377564931

Fuck, I've gotta find that.

>>377564931
The flamethrower is in R&D. The shield drone is in the security area right next to ops.

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>>377564960
>over 30 hours into the game
>didn't realize this either

>>377564983
Only the kinetic shield drone is any worth on bosses but it's fucking amazing to have for them because sometimes you didn't dodge far enough or in the right direction. Compleatly trivializes black cerb and rouge process as long as you keep it up. Laser is garbage for anything but pulling and concussive is situational when you just want some free hits. Flamethrower drone is better for dealing damage than the laser but I've never tried it on a boss honestly.

>>377559535
>Also, does the PAX 2.0 do anything special? I know the firebug has it's fire kamehameha's and the axe has it's energy waves, but whats the PAX do? Same with the other 2.0 boss weapons, whats their special gimmick if any?

Would like to know this as well.

>>377565540
Pax2.0 does a ground slam if you hold rt rather than a stab like the regular one. It also deals more damage becoming the best single rigged weapon in the game considering it's got 70% energy gain. It also looks like it has a bit of an aoe on the slam but I can't tell.

>>377564960
How?

>>377565301
Black Serbs is easier to dodge than the standard security troop.he's trivial already. Also if you get the PAX he summons, to hit the white cannister it stops him from spawning more pax's (so you only need to fight 1) and it also gives you the entire black cerberus set upon killing him.

>>377565729
I ment more like it can let you survive a ohko from a pax stomp or some of his swings if you don't have many hp+ slotted. Shield is still super great all around.

>>377565702
Use the drone while the energy meter is charged but don't have anything nearby or targeted.

>>377565964
Ah. So you still need energy to begin with.

>>377566171
Implanted electrodes are 10/10 implant for that and energy to health.

YOU CAN"T MISS
WHAT YOU'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE

>>377565964
So that does what, banks a full power activation for later?

>>377566264
Yep! And you can do it to multiple drone modules not just the active one.

>>377566247
I like it

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>>377547123

>Stack aggression implants
>Restore 70% hp with executions
Self sustaining slaughter is the best kind.

The golems are too strong, their attacks crash the game and make it count like a death.

Truly incredibleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>377561807
>high 70's game. You know, 78-ish or so
Is this ign-scoring or autism-scoring? I'm not sure if there were actual terms set for it but
>ign scoring
a 99/100 game would in reality be a 30-70/100 game
>autism scoring
a 78/100 game is an aberration in the modern industry, welcomed by both normies & /v/ alike.

>>377568506
Modern scoring conventions are stupid, anything below 70 is considered garbage these days.

>>377568506
Fuck you

>>377546321
>>377546387

thisis/v/.jpg

>banking scrap at the crafting bench doesnt reset your scrap multiplier
Makes farming to build armor really fast.

>>377569115
Why'd you ever farm in this

>>377569115
I thought enemies only respawn when you use the med bay and recover your health and items?

I think one minor thing that could make the game better is changing the lock on system to cycle, rather than purely direction. Or at least the option to. And I don't think it autotarhets the chest when you lock on. Noticed on the firebug and pax switching the lock on to another appendage had a delay too. I don't like that.

And secondly I'd change the camera so it doesn't do shitty perspective swaps anytime I dash under a boss and have to dodge out.

>>377569242
I'm pretty sure they respawn as soon as you step inside ops

>>377544636
Floaty as fuck and pretty imbalanced. It's satisfying at least, but it leaves a lot to be desired.

Especially the setting. Holy shit is it forgettable.

>>377569231
Because 30k for the final upgrade level, or if you fall behind and need to upgrade.

>>377569242
They respawn if you open gear assembly too.

>>377568595
>>377568614
So we're using authentic scoring, where 100/100 is THE perfect game & therefore cannot exist?

>>377569115
Yeah I noticed that, really exploitable and I bet it's getting patched

>>377569231
Some of the upgrades get pretty costly, especially upgrading armor

also sometimes you keep getting rank 1 mats instead of rank 2 and up mats from part cuts, also part drops aren't guaranteed as the game tells you

>>377569242
Yeah it does

I don't think dying resets your mult either, so what you could do is leave one guy near ops alive then clear out the level, then go back to the guy you left, let him kill you, so when you respawn your fat stack is nearby so you can grab it, go bank it and then repeat while not losing your multiplier

>>377569281
>And I don't think it autotargets the chest when you lock on.

It doesn't. If you lock on and don't choose a body part, you target nothing specific and deal less damage than if you were targeting unarmored parts, but more than if you were targeting armored parts.

>>377547123
Nice one faggot.

>>377569398
>tfw you realize this combat would make a fucking top-notch 40k spess mehreen game

>>377544783
Maybe worth a pirate.
It's just shovelware.

>>377569476
>>377569434
There's no difference between mk4 and 5, like what, total of 30 damage worth of difference? That's nothing.

>>377569632
>40k Souls
I'd play it

How would armor upgrading work though, I thought their power armor was kind of a rare commodity, and not given lightly, don't think the codex would like them scavving new parts off of fallen comrades either

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>>377569758
It's not scavenging, it's "gifting."

>>377569476
>also sometimes you keep getting rank 1 mats instead of rank 2 and up mats from part cuts, also part drops aren't guaranteed as the game tells you

The level of the materials is determined by the armor they're wearing.

Lynx/Rhino gives Mk1 parts.
Scarab/Liquidator gives Mk2.
Elite Hazard/Proteus/Gorgon gives Mk3.
Bloody Proteus/Cerberus/Chrysalis gives Mk4.

>>377569758
>How would armor upgrading work though, I thought their power armor was kind of a rare commodity, and not given lightly, don't think the codex would like them scavving new parts off of fallen comrades either
There's lore precedent for it. Essentially "honor your wargear but if the mission demands it, do whatever necessary." Dudes have literally scavenged gear off Chaos Marines when their own wargear failed - probably get chewed out for it later but whatevs.

>>377569758
I can imagine taking it back to the tech priests to have them re-forge and bless it for you to use.

Or you're just turning in the gear as proof of your kills and you get rewarded accordingly.

>>377569476

You don't need to upgrade in stages. You can make a rank 1 armor instantly rank 4 if you want, without having to go 1, 2, 3, 4.

>>377567846
Wear full chrysalis gear with it for another 20% heal on every kill, execution or no.

pirated it, not a single regret on not buying it, this is barely worth a pick up on a 75% off off to be honest

>>377553052
>The best suit of armor in the game is a metal fursuit

That's kinda hilarious

Do they explain the respawning mechanic at all or is it just a mechanical "WE GOTTA BE DARK SOULS" thing?

>>377571262
it's a videogame

>>377571262
Popular headcannon is " a drone brings you back" but yeah, they don't discuss it. It's because videogames.

>>377571262
Does Dark Souls explain it at all or is it a "lol who cares it's Dark Souls?"

>>377571661
yes

>>377571661
its heavily implied your ashes find their way back to the bonfire and you reform because that's what undead do.

>>377571661
"Time is convoluted here" is the general explanation why everything respawns in Dark Souls. It also explains the multiplayer phantoms.

My theory for The Surge would probably come down to you might actually be stuck in a simulation or something. That hipster talks about your neural interfaces being able to stick you in a VR vacation kind of thing.

>>377571661

You die and are revived at a bonfire because magic. So it's explained, but it's not really a deep explanation or anything.

The Surge has no explanation, but then again, since when the fuck does there have to be one?

>>377571852
that hipster hung himself, he's not really a reliable source

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the weak should fear the strong

>>377571262
One of the audiologs has a girl getting knocked out and wakes up in the medbay. Something about losing vision in her left eye. Drone takes you back maybe?

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>>377574368
you're wrong

>>377574974
What does it say then?

I am pleasantly surprised with this game. Lords of the Fallen was boring trash while this game manages to be more satisfying in literally every way. Even the story, as generic and standard it is, is miles better than LotF storytelling. It's pretty Souls-inspired, but in a way like how Castlevania and Metroid are both similar. It's becoming more of its own thing which is great and keeps it fresh.

Level design is honestly really good and the combat is pretty smooth. Some clunkiness here and there, but overall it feels pretty satisfying. I think a lot of the enemies deal too much damage, but at least the dodge system is good enough.

Will I get shot if I say that I'm enjoying this as much as DS2-3?

>>377575351
I'd have to boot up the game and re-listen, can't be arsed.

>>377574368
IIRC the audio log didn't tell how she got to the medbay, she just states she realized her left eye didn't have vision until the medbay fixed her up.

>>377544636
I was interested until I began watching people play it. Either literally everyone I've seen playing it is terrible at the game, or its combat is garbage.

>>377576449
The combat is to Dark Souls what Dark Souls is to Assassin's Creed.

>>377576449

Given every last streamer I've seen is using the biggest, slowest, heaviest fucking weapon they can find (usually the PAX), it's probably the former.

>>377576618
People don't seem to realize that not every weapon in each class works the same. I use the Volatile Spectre because it's so much faster than the PAX despite them both being single rigged.

>>377576618
>the pax isn't the best weapon in the game
aside from the claws of the gestalt
Get a load of this guy.

>>377576618
The big hammer was pretty good for the first area of the game, it absolutely murders the fuck out of PAX once he's downed and you broke his armor

Like use the chainsword to nip his ankles and then when he collapses whip out the hammer and go ham with R1s, easily takes him out in two rounds of that

>>377571661
Going in i thought the explanation was you dont die but fall unconcious in your undead state for possibly hundreds of years and subconciously tracked back to the bonfire and eventually regained your senses, the npcs just went back to where they remember being.

>>377576836

Twin Rigged probably end up the strongest. The firebug weapon pretty much is a rape train once you get some levels in twin profs, and the weapon from the last boss, the double claws, is probably outright broken.

>>377576618

Which is silly since one handed and twin-rigged are just insane.
Especially the boss weapons of each.

>>377577346

People make the rookie mistake of a lot of games of "bigger number=obviously more damage" without considering other factors such as range, number of hits over any given time span, the actual attack and defense mechanics of a game, etc.

That said, the PAX is pretty damn good. You can run the whole game with it, but it's still a big, slow as shit weapon which will make you look like a shit player because if you don't time things right you'll get your shit wrecked.

>>377577274
Il shill for the pax v2 being the best all day. But it is seriously hard to compete with the logic that since the most broken weapon in the game is dual rigged you should probibly go with dual rig from the start for levels. And yeah,firebug is good and also fun.

>>377577346
>Which is silly
Not so silly given that it's the first boss weapon and easily the strongest weapon when you can obtain it.

It's like if they handed you the drake sword for beating the taurus demon desu.

>>377576726

Oh yeah, that too. Weapons in the same class, hell, weapons in the same speed classification, don't actually swing at the same speed. It's different for the various weapons.

>>377577541
The chainsword the gave you off the first enemy you run into out of the starting medbay is better than the pax though.

>>377577509

Eh, I'm all for using whatever you like, honestly. I switch between weapon types, because it's boring to use the same thing for 30 fucking hours straight. That said, the boss weapons are generally some of the best in the game. It's worth the struggle to get the 2.0 versions.

>>377576449
All streamers but one I watched were playing like knuckle dragging retards. I actually downloaded the game just to see if I'm not getting something and that one guy was some kind of prodigy or if all the others were complete trash.

>>377554646
>abuse iframes
These kind of posts just highlight how little you ignorant shits understand.

>>377577750
>or if all the others were complete trash

Probably this. Shit, I know I streamed it myself a bit, and I'm a terrible fucking player and all of the maybe 2 people that watched me left in disgust. But at least I know I'm bad.

>>377577660
>implying
Outside of space marine cosplay that and all one handed weapons belong in the trash.
>low energy gain
>low impact
>mediocre damage

>>377577660
It really isn't

It's fast, but it has pretty much no impact (enjoy enemies poising through your attacks) and low energy gain (enjoy enemies dying before you can do part cuts and not having energy to spend on drone attacks)

>>377576618
>>377576574
At least one of the streamers I was watching has beaten every Souls game except Demon's Souls though. I mean he wasn't exactly an expert at them, but he wasn't a terrible player by any means.

>>377576449
I've seen a very competent Souls player (not a PvP shiteater, mind you) tear it apart, so I'll take his word for it.

>>377577902

Do you use you weapon exclusively as a dodge-poker or what?

>>377577807
Oh, it was definitely that. I saw a guy fight a single welding bot for close to twenty minutes.

>>377578161
Pax excels with dodge poke small combo execute/dodge out. So most of the time yeah, it's dodge attack/two hits/execute

Better than LotF at least. Their 3rd try might actually yield a good game.

Wheelchairs must really suck.
This guy seems happy enough to bash every other current or formerly living/animated thing he comes across as long as he can walk again.

>>377544636

You know what's weird about The Surge?

The enemies on NG+ and more on NG++ actually use the proper movesets and are far more aggressive.

I find it odd because in NG i was unimpressed with how the enemy humanoids use ~2-3 moves each total. On NG+ you start meeting (once in awhile) more humanoids that use sprinting attacks, dodge spam, actually play like phantoms from Souls.

On NG++ it picks up even steeper, and more enemies start spamming dodges, slide attacks, jump/ducks on your swings, etc.

Why this is all so strange is because why wouldn't they implement this curve through the main NG cycle? It's so much more engaging to get jumped by 3 guys with 3 different weapons and who use them properly than 1 by 1 the same enemies with the same pipe or staff who can't use more than 2 moves.

>>377579238

Also,

I started out using the Astir Vibroblade basic one-handed sword for most of my NG playthrough, I tried some of the heavy weapons and never liked their lack of damage output...

But then I got the Judge 2.0 and i've never used anything since, outside of trying out movesets. The Judge 2.0 + Bloodied Proteus Set is my staple.

I'm on NG+++, with my Judge 2.0 XV

>>377579238
>Why this is all so strange is because why wouldn't they implement this curve through the main NG cycle?

I know that some of those heavy Cerberus guys will occasionally use slide attacks, and the regular security guards sometimes use the jump/duck dodge as well as try to block/parry you. That kind of makes sense as they're apparently not insane.

>>377579618
I just got totally surprised by a security guy doing the polevault dropkick too.

>>377579618
>heavy Cerberus guys will occasionally use slide attacks
>occasionally

I've had those fuckers pull out the slide shit almost non-stop. I dunno what I'm doing it that triggers it, but if I'm more than a foot from them they're gonna come flying at my ass like they're from the Vanquish fanclub.

>>377579618
>That kind of makes sense as they're apparently not insane.

Why were the security guards the only ones not affected by the Surge? What happened to all of the executives that weren't that hipster Hackett?

Why didn't the guards start questioning what the fuck is going one as soon as the Surge hit, and why aren't they at the very least putting down all the insane workers? You'd think a couple of PAX mechs going around the larger areas would clean up pretty nicely.

>>377579328
>Bloodied Proteus Set
my nigga

>>377580416

I think the security guys were all linked up on a separate network.

Irina is a Terminator

That surprised me.

>>377580494

Bloodied Proteus is actually the best set in the game, by the way. Better overall defense than proteus, and the healing increase is +33%; it makes the Healkit v5 heal for 400, which is easily socketed towards the end of NG/early NG+.

I sit at 500 HP with 400 per heal, 9x heals, generally; bloodied proteus and a Judge 2.0. it's a good life in CREO.

>>377580659

Not so, unfortunately. The security guys are as affected by the Surge as everyone else; notice that Irina gets corrupted and eventually turned 'into' Security as the game goes on if you interact with her and fulfill her requests. Black Cerberus also retains some measure of self.

I think it's more that everyone/everything in the complex is under some measure of control, Warren included. The audio tapes from the girl in the vents indicated she's working for Sally / the Process as well, and eventually betrays the Process and all her rig/fixes/medical treatments simply stop working.

I think it's that the Process is looking for potentates to reach the Board to 'yesvote' the Utopia launch? But as you get there, the last vote dies and you're left in a dystopian situation where the outcome can't be what the process wants, and it's mixed up with the birth of the nanite-being (process?). So it's kind of confusing.

Shrug.

>>377581365

She's not actually; she's being reprogrammed or fucked up in the head into being security. Just like everyone else in CREO is being slowly warped into the conscious thought-form of the apotheosis of nanite-thing coming to life.

She's an engineer.

>>377582006

Where do you get bloodied proteus?

Also wait, I missed something. What is Sally? I thought she was a person.

>>377582063
M8...

I left the room after I killed her, and when I came back there was a robutt skeleton on the floor.

>>377582186

Yeah, her burning up and turning into a robot skellington was a real "what the fuck" moment. This game has a lot of unexpected horror moments in it thanks to the shit towards the latter half.

>>377582006
I just finished the boardroom, and it seems like Sally was trying to stop Utopia. Like, why would your big dramatic moment be "We already had them 4-3, but we needed 5-3 for reasons."

>>377583012
You're correct. Imo they really fucked up the Sally thing, one moment you try to get to her, the next she's trying to resuscitate a dude for him to vote no. Where's the exposition, where is she, why is she doing this, how is she doing this. It just comes out of nowhere.

Literally just finished the game and I have no idea what the fuck is going on. I understand as much about what Project Resolve is and how Utopia is a lazy, fast-tracked version of it. But what the fuck was going on in the end? What the shit is even that end boss? Just some nanites that gained sentience or something?

Also, I'm gonna head right back into it for another playthrough. Anyone know all the unique shit to do with the bosses to get them to drop the bonus loot?

>>377583436
Wiki has all the info senpai.

>>377583012
I think it was more due to the vote still being pending. There was still the chance for the vote to go 4-4 and the machine can't break that protocol.

>>377583610
Why resuscitate then, when you can just kill him.
Pointless.

>>377583610
Sure, but then why would she be so bummed that he died? Either way she gets the same result, and with a plan that's projected to kill 95% of the population what's the big deal in dropping one more body?

>>377583675
You got me there anon.

>>377583436
Why do you even care about this garbage story and how were you able to stand the cringeworthy voice acting?

>>377583775
I have a high tolerance to a lot of things. I'm not easily offended by a lack of quality.

>>377583775
The lips move.

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>those yellow ninja fuckers after the first boss
Any tips?

>>377583775
Personally I didn't even pay attention to voice acting. It seemed to do its job.
>>377583719
Maybe tried to fix things but in the end it didn't even matter, and then she got fucked up.

>>377583989
Attack their weak point for maximum damage.
Alternatively just crush them.

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>>377583436

From what I gathered, and correct me if I'm wrong

>CREO is trying to revitalize the Earth because humanity fucked it up
>makes a project for it, Resolve
>Resolve is going well, but fuckhead CEO's of CREO want results NOW NOW NOW
>they decide to make another project
>this project also will revitalize the Earth...By killing 99% of all life on it and letting it just regrow from there, while putting the CEO's brains into robot bodies because fuck dying, right?
>to kill all life they decide to use NANOMACHINES, SON
>nanomachines
>when some of their other AI's have already begun exhibiting deviant behaviors
>also they're gonna hook it into their big neural network thingy that all of the guys in the game have
>nanomachines develop sentience due to shitty programming, and the nanomachines decide "lol fuck everyone"
>everything goes to shit, nanomachines fuck up everyones (or almost everyones) brains
tl;dr Everyone got Kojima'd.

>>377584190
And if a Japanese man wrote it the story would be genius.

>>377583989

Twin rigged guys? Block then punish. They're super weak to block and punish.

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>>377551307
its weird. quick load didnt respawn enemies on me in the first two areas. but in area three, the biolab, it does now. and now im fucked because i was relying on that to enjoy the game, as its barely decent when things are going my way; but when im dying and shit, i just want to quit because the game isnt good enough to warrant my time.

i was willing to work for that shit in bloodborne and dark souls, but this game isnt as good or fun.

>>377584190
Sounds about right, one guy even tried to fix the nanomachine code but failed in the end.

Also a nitpick- resolve itself was toxic, despite fixing the atmosphere.

>>377584525
Just goes to show that the devs can't even play their own game without using quick save/load. Ultimately, it's a single player game and if you just want to finish the story then cheat engine is always an option.

>>377582183

Bloodied proteus is from the one guy you fight just before Dr. Douchebag in the Restricted Labs of R&D.

The special semi-boss nanohominid guy just before the area is over. His set is "Bloodied Proteus", as compared to the normal Proteus sets.

You gotta kill him over and over. He also drops one tier of resource higher than everything else in the area; so you can farm him to upgrade your weapon to Mark IV before you normally would have it. (Or armor. Or everything).

>>377584543

But they also had fixed versions of it that didn't give people...Whatever Resolve gave them. Cancer or whatever, I dunno, not sure if they ever said. Pretty sure some of the breakables in the biolabs for Resolve didn't release gas, for example, indicating there were safe versions of it.

>>377584525
When you git gud you'll enjoy it.

>>377584643
>this nigga doesn't know about testing options
When you've got to fight a boss 30 times in a day to test its behavior, those are necessary.

>>377584686

Oh, he respawns? Shit, I figured he was a one time deal, I never went back to check.

>>377584696
In the end resolve was canned anyway wasn't it? Made that female scientist pretty salty, she was pretty close to the fix.

>>377584831

Well, when you get to the board room you can plainly see they were voting on whether to can it, since the whole issue there was the AI seemed unable to progress with saturating the world with itself until the vote was over. The one board member hanging on by a thread for like 3 fuckin' days was stalling the whole process and deadlocked it because he hadn't voted by the time the AI shat up the whole network and brainfucked almost everyone at CREO.

>>377577902
>>377577993

wrong. its my main weapon. it has medium in all three stats. impact, scaling, and speed. all medium. right down the middle. and i love it. the 30% energy gain isnt bad either

>>377584953
You're confusing resolve with utopia.
Two entirely different things, they were voting on utopia launch while resolve has been canned for a long time.

>>377585419

It is kind of late, yeah. I could've sworn it wasn't entirely canned, but again, it's almost 4AM. Fuck yeah insomnia I guess.

Either way the whole process was gummed up by the vote-The AI needed it to launch to get on with the whole "Killing all of the planet except maybe Kojima because he's a pretty cool guy" thing.

It's mediocre. It's got no online components, tries to be dark souls but doesn't come close in atmosphere (everything's an almost identical sci-fi generic all the way through), the combat is cool with body targeting, but that doesn't really effect combat or how you move or strike, you just do more or less damage. It will say it's nice for not needing to pray you get random drops, but it's annoying because you now have to grind one enemy for one specific part and hope your executes go through.

It's missing a ton of actual fun variety in it's gameplay, everything's melee with you shitting out energy "techs" that are 100% always better spent on executions and heals.

It's basically like lords of the fallen, go big slow heavy hitter or go home.

>>377585557
And then some chum fucked up the nanomachine code in the rocket before hacking it apart.

RIP nanomachine-god dreams.

>>377585730

I gotta admit, I do like that they also put in a lot of possible red herrings as to what exactly the fuck was going on. Usually games try one misdirect and then do some dramatic midgame reveal.

>>377585702

Just about every weapon type is effective, all you need is a good weapon for that type. Problem is they just hand you the PAX in like the first hour of the game, so you get the idea single rigged weapons are the best because you see "Ooh big damage number" when the damage number isn't actually too reflective of how much damage you'll really be doing.

>>377585702
>It's basically like lords of the fallen, go big slow heavy hitter or go home.
Except dual rig is 100% better.

They should patch out the PAX before all these soulsfags miss out on the real game.

>>377585948
>first time trying out Firebug plus full Lynx gear
Christ, I was not ready for how fast that shit is.

>>377585948

I really do blame the streamers for everyone thinking the game is slow. Just about every fucking one of them is using the PAX. Which, ok, it is a good weapon. However, it's a slow, weighty hunk of metal. But fuck, you get a lot of good weapons pretty early on.

>>377586026

Getting the 2.0 version is pure fucking suffering. That asshole boss would not let me get to his legs for like 10 fucking tries, he would always do anything that would keep me away. I'm fine with them being OP as shit because of the annoyance of getting those fucking things.

>>377586091
>tfw got the Firebug 2.0 by accident
I thought legging the guy was how you had to to di.

>souls, bloodborne, or souls-like game
>heavy armor is either overpowered or fucking worthless
>defense in general either does nothing (at most giving you 1 extra hit before death) or allows you to tank everything

Does a single game developer know how to balance this shit?

>>377586335

The bland truth of heavy armor sucking in these games is a simple one: If heavy armor was effective, the game would be too easy. If it actually made tanking possible (ie: just sitting there and taking hits the face), it would be OP and people would bitch the game is too easy because they can take giant swords to the face and keep right on slugging, not even having to dodge outside of occasional 1HKO's some games do.

Thats why light shit is always the best, because they by default always make heavy armor kind of meh. That said, Scarab armor is pretty good in this for a large chunk of the game because having more HP in this game is always a good thing, and it allows you to get the most HP the earliest.

>>377546981
This man speaks the truth. On NG+ and I can't wait to keep ripping cunts legs off for them sweet sweet components

>>377552598
He gets it

>>377586589
surely there is a middle ground between useless and overpowered

>>377586721

I liked a lot of the systems they have in place, like how builds are basically just "What do I plug into my brain at the medstation" and being swappable on the fly, but I really think they should've just fucking made base stats increase a bit with core power. I don't really like having to devote slots to shit like HP (even though it's a really good idea to do so).

>>377586778

The middle ground for that is so hard to find that even vet dev's never get it right. I can't even think of a game thats done it.

>>377568656
>/v/ is one person
when will this meme end

>>377586848
>The middle ground for that is so hard to find that even vet dev's never get it right. I can't even think of a game thats done it.
The amount of testing that would be needed to get that sort of balance "right" is insane compared to the amount that is practical, especially on the budgets that these sort of games have.

>>377586778
the middle ground only exists in a perfectly balanced environment

it doesnt help that the players help perpetuate the idea that if its not overpowered then its useless

>>377557291
are you drunk, anon?

>>377586091
Two tries with pax v2.0

>>377586589
I'm no expert, but in DaS I stopped dodging entirely after a while.

Can you pause it whenever you want? Then it's already better than Souls-trash.

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>>377586848
But stats do increase with core power level..
a single point of HP each time

>>377588269
>Can you pause it whenever you want?
Yes. You can even quit the game and resume right from where you were.

I think it still respawns enemies though so be careful where you quit if you need to.

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>soulslike
>no MP

>>377585730
If you don't sabotage the Utopia Rocket with the virus, you can get the bad ending where the project completes and the nanomachines exterminate/assimilate all of humanity.

In the "good" ending, you prevent Utopia from killing everyone but the Rogue Process manages to escape anyway thanks to the military coming to investigate.

>>377588721
>get deeper combo system instead
Worth it.

Why would you want to interact with the worst fanbase anyway?

>>377588921
top cream shitters like you who are afraid of MP

>>377588903
Should've fucked everyone up then,
damn. Only a little bit of last level and final boss left for me.

>>377589039
>going after anyone but the best players
And that's why you're cancerous. The only reason Soulsfags ever let people know about their series is to draw in casuals for easy invasion wins. Sad!

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> tfw ng+++
> felt like I completed everything on the previous cycles
> still missing 1 single hidden achievement

What am I missing broooooooos.

>>377590037
got all the ironmaus collectibles? magazines

>>377590356
Yes and all equipment/armors from what I can tell.

Where was the vending machine cult? After completing my first playthrough I apparently have the achievement for killing them and never got the chance to get that IRONMAUS armor.

>>377559535
>>377565540
Read the description. It has "seismic slam"

>>377590553
Remember where you got exo rig 2? The room right next to it. Take the shortcut right outside of the ops center, kill the twinrig asshole, and basically go straight forward til you find the stairs. Then up the left side stairs and in tge back.

>>377590037
>>377590434
Well then google it then, I can think of a few you could've missed from cursory google. Such as defeating a boss with its own weapon.

>>377544636

Bloodsouls

>>377577346
there's a 1h boss weapon?

>>377544636
4.2gb if you pirate it.
Its worth the pirate

>>377590751
Yes.

>>377590751
The first boss If fought dropped a heavy one handed weapon. One of the bosses dropped a one handed small axe I think

>>377590802
Does Parsifal v2 count as a boss weapon?

>>377590757
>Its worth the pirate
Absolutely worth it at $0. I'd probably pay 30 bucks for it, and will when it comes down. Full price is a bit steep for something this unpolished but I'm enjoying it so far.

>>377544636
Its Like Cyber Dark Souls

it's great, loving the combat in this one definitly a step up from LOTF.

>>377588269
you can even quicksave and quickload to never die

>>377590876
PAX is single-rigged not onehanded

>>377544636
Shit

>>377590884
Mimetic edge does.

>Firebug 2.0
>RT, RT, RB
GOTY

>>377591934
>Cucksole fags so stupid, they only know things by buttons, not function

>>377544636
actually boring.

i wish it was better.

>>377592072
Stop shitposting any time.

>>377544636
Felt like a cheap knockoff; the mechanics don't mesh well with the difficulty and when it comes to story and themes, this >>377544721

>>377592146
Stop assuming everyone's a fag like you

i love you uncle warren

>>377592072
I'm playing on PC senpai.

>>377592353
Get off my platform, cunt

>using rhino+pax
>die a lot because you are fucking slow
>alright, fuck it, craft lynx
>literally swing 3x times faster, no increase in incoming damage whatsoever

Wew, what a retard i was, thinking that heavy armor means something

>>377592549
Stability/poise senpai, you'll get knocked out of your animations far easier using Lynx.