Let's be honest. The PS4 has already won the 8th generation.

You are correct :thinking:

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>>377498731
relevant high quality meme

>listing movies like uncharted
>not listing persona 5

There's no competition for the Ps4, that's the problem. Xbox was dead on arrival and the switch is aiming at a completely different market in preteens and very casual adults who used to game a lot before adult life stopped them.

>>377498731
>Nioh - 8/10
You got me there
Bloodborne - 9/10
Rehash
Horizon Zero Dawn - 7/10
Could've been better but still counts
Uncharted 4 - 8/10
Rehash
Ratchet and Clank - 7/10
Rehash
Gravity Rush 2 - 8/10
Rehash
Until Dawn - 7/10
This counts
Yakuza 0 - 9/10
Rehash
The Last Guardian - 7/10
vidya as art being good is debatable
This isn't even counting:

>Death Stranding
This also counts
>Gran Turismo Sport
Rehash
>The Last Of Us 2
Rehash

>>377498960
>Rehash
I dont think you know what this word means and why it gets thrown so much at nintendo on those kind of lists.

Combined sales of all PS4 exclusives: ~20 million.

>persona 5 10/10
you forgot one OP

>already
Nintendo started the 9th gen already.

>>377499006
Source?

Nevermind you are shitposting nintenigger

>>377499016
Persona is goat but it's a cross gen game so sadly it shouldn't count

>>377499081
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_4_video_games

That's every game we know broke 1 million on the PS4, which for all practical purposes makes it a list of exclusives that sold well. If this upsets you you can add another 10 million for all the games that didn't make the list to make yourself feel better. That's still about half an exclusive per PS4 owner.

>>377499152
fair enough

>>377498960
>Rehash
Those games are fundamentally different from their predecessors. They aren't Nintendo tier where it is literally the same game for 99% of the experience except new levels.

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>>377499054
>a shitbox that can't even match the previous generation in power is """""""""""9th gen"""""""""""

Ahahahahahaha

>>377498945
Why are people pretending Persona 5 isn't 80% simulator and 20% gameplay?

Dungeons take like 2 days to finish and then you have 20 days for s links. Mementos is not even worth going to unless you're forced for an s link.

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>>377498731

>>377499191
Why are you shitposting/acting like a retard?

You think this incomplete and outdated wiki page is in any way proof of your shitty claim?

>>377498731
it still has no game

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>>377498731
Review wise PC btfos everything reliably on metacritic every year

For the proportion of people actually playing the exclusives
nintendo (all exclusives) >>>>>> PC (about 50/50)>>>>>>>>xbox>ps4 (practically all cod/fifa/gta)


Amount of games which actually stay popular for a long period of time (probably the best indicator of quality)
Nintendo=PC >>>>>>>>>>> ps4 = xbox

I really don't see how sony wins anything desu.

>>377499365
PC shouldn't even be mentioned in generation wars discussions.

PC doesn't really have generations, it's constant, and it gets the vast majority of releases ported over. Gens are a console thing.

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>>377498731
>Nioh - 8/10
Yeah
>Bloodborne - 9/10
Yeah
>Horizon Zero Dawn - 7/10
The most boring game of 2017 and it is already forgotten
>Uncharted 4 - 8/10
Yeah, U4 is great
>Ratchet and Clank - 7/10
R&C2016 is shit and is inferior to the original in every way
>Gravity Rush 2 - 8/10
This is a very niche game
>Until Dawn - 7/10
Snorefest
>Yakuza 0 - 9/10
This is true, Yakuza is fucking amazing
>The Last Guardian - 7/10
TLG is barely a game

This isn't even counting:

>Death Stranding
also on pc
>Gran Turismo Sport
More like Grand Autismo
>The Last Of Us 2
We've seen literally zero footage of it. The original was very overrated.

>>377499365
>Nintendo=PC >>>>>>>>>>> ps4 = xbox
I wonder who is behind this post lol

>>377499404

Even if you just ignore old games it's still the exact same. Also it's very clear pc is competing with the consoles now with the ps4 pro/scorpio

>>377498945
So ps4 has teens and adults who have no adult life?

>>377499308
>Zelda 234
>Mario kart 543

>Nintendo is the only company innovating.
By innovating they mean replaying the same old shit over again.

>>377499327
Feel free to provide some numbers proving otherwise.

>>377499548
And adults with a less busy schedule who do less commuting, people who live close to their jobs and such.

>>377499308
HOLD IT! Why does Persona 5 have a fake metacritic page? And why do you try to have a machine with 2 games both of which are shared with a previous gen compete with the ps4?

>>377499527
Those are all factual, literally every console exclusive apart from stuff released on nintendo is forgotten about straight away. Last gen stuff like Halo was very popular, but not anymore

The fact that you guys need to tell yourselves this means your scared of the Switch

>>377499365
Name none pc exclusive that people give a single fuck about? Just one...

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>>377499003
>>377499228
>But Nintendo!

>>377499228
>fundamentally different from their predecessors.

Explain this.

>>377499627
Looking at your pic its nintendo that is the worst and the PS4 is number 2, Xbone number 3.

>>377498731
Sony needs to whip out a handheld PS4 if they want to stay ahead of Nintendo Switch in Japan.

>>377499228
Anon, they are rehashes.

They don't stop being rehashes because you like them.

>>377498731
>until dawn
>7/10
Hoo boy. I'm deducing from this that all other games need a substraction of 3 as well, making your line up pretty damn weak.

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>>377499647
I'll give you 5.

Correct.

>>377499710

Yeah review wise nintendo gets btfo, but the games always stay popular.

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Obligatory

>this isn't even counting
>3 games

PS4 has an even brighter future than it does present.

>>377499581
We dont have numbers other than some very old ones. You make the argument that if Sony did not update the hardware sales numbers after 1 year that the PS4 is just a 10+ million instead of the 60m that we know.

>>377499734
Games, not twitch shows.

>>377499721
>want to stay ahead of Nintendo Switch in Japan

It doesn't matter. Sony consoles will never be "xbox" irrelevant there

>>377499786
So? How is that an argument?

Since when are sales a metric of quality?

>>377499734
>league of legends
>hearthstone
>csgo

HAHAHAHAHAHA its like an autism starterpack. All those games are cancerous and have probably one of the worst online communities

>>377499826
scrap multiplats, shit games & movies and you're left with three games

>>377499850
>one pc exclusive that people give a single fuck about

You literally asked for this. They are also incredibly widely played

>>377499827
You know why numbers aren't updated? Because they barely change. None of these games have legs, if they did the publishers would happily be telling their shareholders about it.

>>377498731
>so desperate they have to add 'can't-consistently-do-20fps Guardian',
'Feminist: Action Game', 'Ratchet-butchered-with-less-content' and 40% 7/10

>>377499898
I'm going to guess they're pretty good or people wouldn't drop them straight away. I did say this

stay popular for a long period of time

Sales alone don't really mean anything

>>377500009
>Because they barely change
Your assumption.

>None of these games have legs
Your assumption.

You got nothing, yet you post as if you got all facts.

>>377498960
Sequel is not a rehash you brainlet

>>377500165
Why would a company report 2.5 million Bloodborne sales, but then not the 5 million that came after?

Please explain anon.

>>377500085
>stay popular for a long period of time
>Sales alone don't really mean anything
Popularity = Sales

So again. Since when are sales a metric of quality?

>>377500265
>Since when are sales a metric of quality?
They aren't really. How long a game stays relevant/popular is. e.g. no mans sky sold well but died straight away

>>377500265
popularity comes from quality
maybe not in your eyes but in the eyes of the masses

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>>377500165
>Your assumption.
No, that's fact. Sony exclusives never have legs.

The PS4 has won the 8th generation, no doubt about it. That being said, PC will always be the superior platform to play on, as it is better than console in every way. And even if you get exclusives, we will still be able to emulate them in two years while you will be stuck with your garbage system. Enjoy your "exclusives" while you can, sonybros.

>>377500264
Because they have better metrics for success of their business and you get numbers most of the time from business mettings.

Nintendo always updates their numbers because they are almost a pure game company and have barely third party support to take into account. But Sonys videogame business is build around having third party games, PSN sales etc.

They dont go out of their way to sell their shareholders on Playstation because Knack sold 5 mil.

>>377500435
How can you say that when remasters of PS3 games sell well on the PS4?
Is it because you are retarded or delusional?

>>377500537
>let's use one of their best sellers of all time and pretend it's the norm

>>377500537
How many remasters are there? I can only think of Uncharted collection and TLoU

>>377500507
They went out of their way to tell us Horizon sold 2.6 million and U4 sold 8.7 million. Do you actually believe Knack sold 5 million copies?

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>>377500476
PC is great and if you have a good one then it almost always looks better than console games when it gets ported.
It is not however better in every way. I will give you three examples 1. Shitty ports that are unoptimized. 2. PC demonstrably has more hackers in online games. 3. PC has way less players for multi platform games and in shooters is often limited to 1 or 2 game types where console has more numbers and a better selection.

>>377500476
>we will still be able to emulate them in two years
there's still no working ps3 emulator

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>>377500741
If there is even one then your statement doesn't have legs

>>377500861
Lmao what a false equivalency. Ps3 had retarded architecture while ps4 is literally a pc. Enjoy your $60 sub 20 fps version of bloodborne while I wait a while to play it in 4k 60 fps :)

>>377500806
> PC has way less players for multi platform game
This actually reverses as games get older (e.g. battlefield 3, 4 and one), although it is true at the start

>>377500769
And according to you thats all Horizon will ever sell and how can it be that U4 is at 8.7 when its only sold so so millions 2 months after launch!

Do you truly believe that Horizon will stay at 2.6m like all the source from the wiki page just because Sony will not update us about the sales numbers?

>Do you actually believe Knack sold 5 million copies?
I dont know, but it would not suprise me if it sold millions. It was a launch game.

>>377501042
U4 had a boost in sales because it was bundled during the holidays with the cheapest version of the PS4

>>377500975
I could see that as the majority of the world and pc users can play older games even on low end components.
I still wonder if the population increase is enough to support all the different game modes though.

>>377501042
>when its only sold so so millions 2 months after launch!

So Uncharted 4 got updated numbers when they significantly increased, but all the other games didn't? Why not? Who these millions of people that are going to buy Horizon later? What are they waiting for?

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>>377501042
>uncharted 4
Because it's bundled with every PS4 and usually cheaper. Uncharted 4 is also a much better game than Horizon so it makes sense it would sell more.
>Do you truly believe that Horizon will stay at 2.6m
More or less. It's falling in the charts. To sell you need to stay in the charts. Pic related.

>>377501171
Knack had a bundle too. So did Mario kart 8 on WiiU and Splatoon 2 in an upcoming japan bundle.

>>377501258
Is Pokémon the Nintendo's FIFA?

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>>377501175
>I could see that as the majority of the world and pc users can play older games even on low end components.

It's not because of that. It's a mix of

1) Pc being less "normie" and people playing more then cod/fifa/gta (v does not sum up the typical ps4 user)
2) Incredibly popular games which take up a lot of the players like this >>377499734. If those games didn't exist, most the players would just move to battlefield, cod etc

But yes, you can easily get in a game on bf3 still.

>>377498731
I own almost 60 games on the PS4 and none of them are those

shit taste

Also console idolatry is fucking gay. Stop loving plastic boxes.

>>377501258
>It's falling in the charts
Gran Turismo does not chart well yet is a 10m seller. Even GT6 which was released after the PS4 sits at over 6million. And we only know that because Polyhony itself gives updates.

>>377498731
>Posting 8/10 and 7/10 games in their list wars
Man they really are getting desperate

>>377501402
That wasn't what I was saying. I was talking about games having a low population can usually only sustain Team Deathmatch but not the more obscure/less popular game modes.

Been playing the majority of this generation on PS4, but going to P5 after BOTW felt like a bummer since I love the Joycons/Pro Controller on the Switch. Plus the handheld aspect

>>377501575
I've personally never had a problem like this on any game. BUT I only really play mainstream/normie games, it might be different on some others.

>>377501454
Is it popular to buy gran turismo digitally? Microsoft and Sony didn't share digital sales until recently.

Which is why Ape Escape 4 is worthless and would be a waste of time and money.

>>377501615
Plus the dualshock 4 battery is a joke.

>>377501784
No idea but the current trend of digital vs phisical is a ratio of 40:60

>>377498731
>Uncharted 4
>a movie game
>8/10

but beyond that yeah, PS4 is definitly having the strongest new releases this gen so far.

PS4 won the moment Bloodborne got announced.

>>377499654
Yes, Nintedo are the perfect example of constant rehashes.
They haven't made a good game since Galaxy.

Fuck I want Yakuza 0 so bad but its 90$ here in the socialist Republic of Canada.

Worth ?

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This is what happens when you make a solid console with no gimmicks.

>>377498731
Yes.

>>377501917
6 hours is long enough for any game, you should take a break.
Or just get a long USB cable if you're that much of an autist.

>>377499734
Is this b8?

I shitpost and false flag in every Sony thread because I'm still furious about Bloodborne's exclusivity

>>377500959
BB runs at 30 and is quite solid with very few drops beyond 25.

Out of all the souls games on consoles, it runs by far the best.

>>377502227
I don't have my PS4 in rest mode.

>>377502380
How about buying a slim, they're like $200 now.

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>>377498731
Not at launch. Don't act so smug since all the GOAT exclusives that are on the PS4 came after 2 to 4 years of the lackluster launch lineup. Besides, we have no indication if the Switch will make a similar roundabout anyway.


Also I prefer a more open platform anyway.

>>377498731
It's the king of the pile of shit.
PS1 rapes it with a controller port on the back and only euro games.

>>377502642
switch do better than wii u, thats for sure

>>377502642
>2017
>Windows
>Open Platform
Pick two.

>>377502726
There are a lot of dumb posts in this thread but I think you won.

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>>377502737
yeah, i can develop and run any software for free on it, thats what open platform is

>>377499541
>PC
>competing

It doesn't.
PC needs no exclusives and the only PC exclusives are MMO / MOBA / Multiplayer in general games that you can't properly play with a controller.