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>>377479354
How come the store is called Devil May Cry again in DMC4? Did Dante change it back after Trish quit? Did he realise that Devil Never Cry sounds stupid and would never catch on?

>>377479693
"Never" having an extra syllables makes it a little more of a mouthful to say overall, thus making it not as catchy. Also branding. A series named Devil May Cry with a shop stating the opposite would be too good.

>>377479693
DMC3 was a soft reboot after DMC2's poor reception, and retconned a number of minor details from DMC1.
Honestly the more confusing thing is Rebellion and Yamato. They're heirlooms, but also stated to be connected to Dante and Vergil's inner power, but also they're Devil Arms, which implies they're the souls of very powerful demons, rather than being forged.

Are we getting DmC 2 or DMC 5?

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Shitty image, but Force Edge was the original Momento of Sparda. DMC3 came along and was like, lol nah, here's Rebellion as the momento and inheritence instead haha.

>>377481187
Also fuck you Alastor, sold your ass to some shady people to pay the rent.

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>>377481008
>>377481187
Actually, Rebellion was introduced in DMC 2 and Yamato was in the first game. It is Sparda's sword when you play as him, but the team originally designed it for Vergil (because Kamiya wanted a samurai sword wielding character).

I would think that, if anything, Force Edge might be formed from Sparda's soul, since wielding it Dante's Devil Trigger takes his appearence, just like with Ifrit and Alastor; Yet, Yamato is still considered a Devil Arm in those games.

So, it's likely that a Devil Arm doesn't need to form from a demon' soul. Keep in mind that we never see where Gilgamesh and Lucifer came from in 4. Maybe they could be forged from a part of a demon's body, or something like that?

DMC lore thread?

>>377481437
Alastor's first interaction with Dante was stabbing him, he had it coming.

Why run a business if you need a password or code to even get them to hire you?

>>377481759
I read that originally the DMC4 Devil Arms were going to get bosses, which makes sense when you consider the unfinished state.

It's also true that Force Edge/Sparda is also Sparda's wielded sword in addition to being the manifestation of his own power. Which can apparently be stored in the sword separate from his body and sealed away.

So I guess hypothetically, Dante and Vergil can form their own soul-sword Devil Arms, and Rebellion and Yamato are like catalysts for their demonic power?
It's also interesting that in DMC1 and 3, Devil Arms affect Dante's appearance, but in DMC4, they don't, suggesting his inner demon power is growing stronger.

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>>377481759
I wonder if Devil Arms can turn back into Demons given enough time.

>>377482147
Alastor is sentient to some degree, and became a boss in Viewtiful Joe.

I also had a theory that Vergil himself was lying dormant as Nero's Devil bringer, but I guess that one art book proved me wrong?

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>>377482107
It's not talked much about in the threads but aren't there different modifications for Dante's Devil Trigger in DMC2 you get by picking special items? Sounds like a neat idea.

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>>377481759
>Force Edge might be formed from Sparda's soul, since wielding it Dante's Devil Trigger takes his appearence,

You know, I always felt like the sword wasn't really the most important part, but the amulets themselves kinda grow over the sword since it looks organic.

Also Sparda wields his own sword in the intro, which is kinda weird. Feel like Sparda probably used Yamato though at least.

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>>377482107
There's this concept art of a"perfect devil trigger" form in 4, where Dante's weapons would become part of his body - Rebellion would become his tail, for instance.

To me, it sounds like this Devil Trigger would have a entirely different moveset than his regular form. Imagine the kind of crazy shit we would have seen if DMC 4 was actually completed.

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>>377482107
>Vergil can form their own soul-sword Devil Arms
Hmm, you don't say?

>>377482451
There's a submenu for DT upgrades in DMC4, but it was just for the Trigger Heart to make it last longer. Which, again, tells me there's probably special abilities or variants that they didn't have time implement.
Like this >>377482615

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>>377482286
>I also had a theory that Vergil himself was lying dormant as Nero's Devil bringer, but I guess that one art book proved me wrong?

I'm pretty sure that's what's been going on here, but rather I think Vergil is already a Devil Arm, and Nero's spook is actually Vergil himself since he needs Yamato to actually use the DT. What exactly about the art book refutes this? I know the son part, but that only gives a reason why Vergil would be helping his son gain power in the first place.

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>>377482286
>Alastor is sentient to some degree, and became a boss in Viewtiful Joe
That's interesting. I just remember that Cerberus and Nevan were pretty cool with Dante using them as weapons, so I figured it's not that big of a deal for them unless they hate their future wielder like Beowulf does.

>>377482678
Oh well, would be amzaing if they made Devil Trigger moddable in a new game.

>>377482965
Say Vergil isn't a Devil Arm, and Nero just has some weird permanent demon growth hand, then maybe he's just channeling Vergil through Yamato with his Devil Bringer. I don't fully understand if Vergil could imbue himself into an already pre-existing Devil Arm though. Fucking demon magic

They should have just made 3 brothers. Virgil, Dante, and the one that got captured by Mundus. Making the brother you fight in 1 Virgil means he's dead and can't be used anymore.

Could have worked where Virgil is the most self-serving and least altruistic towards humans, the third brother is pretty much an angel before his corruption, and Dante is in the middle.

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Well well, what do we have here.

>>377483735
Holy shit, I only just now noticed there is a dead demon shrek baby pinned to that wall.

>>377483589
Make him the president of the United States while you're at it.

Why is dmc so comfy?

is RE-DMC-SH the perfect vidya trifecta of great taste in series? Or should one of them be replaced with MGS?
(im talking golden days of course)

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>>377484656
Just replace DMC with NG


I'm getting pretty tired of this comfy meme. High octane action games are the opposite of comfy.

>>377484938
Ninja Gaiden has shitloads of downtime and enjoyable environments too, don't give me that shit.

>>377484938
>comfy
>meme

you're a retard.

>>377484938
>High octane
stop it

>>377484938
>its the NG fag again
How sad must your life be if the only way your "superior" series gets any attention is when you shitpost about it in the DMC threads.
You inssuferable cunt

>>377485447
There's a lot of pretty things to look at but you're constantly on edge in the higher difficulties

>>377485556
You're the retard who just burps out buzzwords until they lost all meaning. The fucking beach in Jack and Dexter is comfy, MAYBE DMC1 is comfy because of so much downtime and emphasis on setting atmosphere.

>>377485706
Okay


>>377485893
>2 hours
>30 posts, 11 IPs

I literally keep your threads from dying you buttblasted underage

>Superior

What a faggot you must be to get triggered by such a harmless post

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>>377486554
>I literally keep your threads from dying you buttblasted underage
Lmao, if the thumbnail was Vergil, this thread would probably have like 300 posts already. DMC1 openings never really get anywhere. Also can confirm, the spookiness of DMC1 is very comfy.

Keep posting strong my NGbro, DMCfags get really triggered when you bring up how the games aren't actually a challenge when they're specifically designed around being combo-centric.

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>>377487074
I really wish DMC went back to atmosphere and exploration, RE examine flavor text and filling out bestiary entries. I'd even let them keep the City of Moveset enemies.

It's funny that both series mirror each other in how the first game differs from the sequels but DMC lost so much more it's not even funny,

Also was DMC1 the only game in the series to not be kicked out of the house the minute it turned 18? Why all the fucked up development?


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>>377482147
The fact Arkham temporarily gained Sparda's form before it overpowered him suggested to me that with a suitable host Demons can basically reincarnate from the power sealed in a Devil Arm, if the host isn't someone stronger than them who'll just suppress it like Vergil and Dante, but I doubt Capcom will ever do anything with the idea.

I was hoping it would turn out that Vergil was trying to do that with Nero who was a descendant of another Sparda line or some kind of demon hybrid experiment to make a Sparda, but instead they just went with the Vergil's son thing.

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I hope the real villain in DMC 5 won't be another human occultist.

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>>377482107
>DMC4 Devil Arms were going to get bosses
Why the hell do people keep saying this? I've never seen a single piece of official info that points to that.

I mean, Lucifer is clearly related to the Faust and Mephisto enemies. You can see the three eyes on the skull of Lucifer, which is pulled from what an ants head looks like. Which is what Fausts and Mephistos are pretty much. And, like, Fausts are silver dudes that throw reddish spikes in the air. Seems pretty clear where the idea came from.

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>>377491783
>>377492060
You can even see the mandibles on the final design.

>>377488103
Why is Ryu such a psychopath. Why is Bayonetta a psychopath (torture attacks/climax) come to think about it.

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>>377491001
In my dream DMC5, it turns out that Arkham was once a member of a secret society before going rogue. Sometime after his death, they become dedicated to resurrecting Mundus, and following the shitstorm caused in 4, managed to get their hands of loads of Devil Arms and technology from the remains of the Order of the Sword. Most of the cultists themselves would be the man-sized "rival" battle (though some would transform into, or summon, larger and weirder demons), but it would have to end with Mundus facing off against the three heroes.

I like having human occultist villains, but I agree that they need to be taken out of it quicker for a change. Maybe have them all over and done with 15 missions in so that Mundus (or some other cosmic nasty) runs the last 5 all to themselves.

>>377492428
>In my dream DMC5, it turns out that Arkham was once a member of a secret society
That's more or less the case, it's not exactly stated but he apparently descends from the same bloodline as the sacrifice Sparda used to seal the Temen ni Gru and knows quite a bit about the supernatural so he must have had some status and connections to have gotten to that point.

I'm not sure they'd be too keen on Mundus given they literally sacrificed to cut him off from their world.

>>377491001
Agreed, I'm not sure why the trend stuck. With DMC3 there's at least an attempt to interweave his mortality with his vice and his past with his present actions and future hopes, but with DMC2 and 4 it was just an asshole businessman and religious figure. Their pasts and the like aren't really even hinted at, they're just in a vague position of power loosely related to dark forces and become dicks.

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>>377488103
>I really wish DMC went back to atmosphere and exploration, RE examine flavor text and filling out bestiary entries. I'd even let them keep the City of Moveset enemies.

Same. I think though, because the series has become so much more combat focused since 3, that the puzzles and exploration stuff be made semi-optional somehow. There's that bit in 4 where you have to run around Fortuna Castle, smacking gyro blades around, that drags the pace of the game into a quicksand pit.

I think making more technical puzzles or keyhunty ones that require a lot of backtracking should reveal things like secret missions or optional items that you don't have to redo on repeat playthroughs. Main puzzles that block progress should be a bit more direct, maybe have them rely on new abilities you gain throughout the story (like, Dante could learn to fly again in Devil Trigger during a battle, then use it to scale an otherwise impossible drop). I think that'd be more satisfying than just fucking around with keys and puzzles that feel arbitrary, like most of the shit in 4.

>>377492767
>it's not exactly stated but he apparently descends from the same bloodline as the sacrifice Sparda used to seal the Temen ni Gru

You're confusing him with his wife/Lady's mother. He reveals that after the second Vergil fight, which is extra fucked up because it implies that he only married her and had Lady in order to sacrifice her at a later date.

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>>377492990
>Dante lives/works with his beautiful mother's doppelganger dressing in provocative clothes
Poor (?) guy.

>I think making more technical puzzles or keyhunty ones that require a lot of backtracking should reveal things like secret missions or optional items that you don't have to redo on repeat playthroughs. Main puzzles that block progress should be a bit more direct, maybe have them rely on new abilities you gain throughout the story (like, Dante could learn to fly again in Devil Trigger during a battle, then use it to scale an otherwise impossible drop)
That would be good.

>>377492990
>Main puzzles that block progress should be a bit more direct, maybe have them rely on new abilities you gain throughout the story (like, Dante could learn to fly again in Devil Trigger during a battle, then use it to scale an otherwise impossible drop). I think that'd be more satisfying than just fucking around with keys and puzzles that feel arbitrary, like most of the shit in 4.
Or just remove all of them completely and make a straightforward action game.

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>>377493545
Nah, I think that would just lead to boring, lifeless level design where it only serves as a backdrop.

Although, something else I would like to see is interactive environments where you can destroy or use props during combat. For instance, the first fight with Berial is really interesting when you have all those shacks around to climb on and get a vantage point at his face. It's a shame that his AoE attack almost always blows them up because it gives you an extra element to play with and could otherwise make the battle all the more replayable.

Plus, smashing smaller enemies through walls, launching chairs at them or grabbing a pole to beat them with God Hand style would be a cool new addition to an already nigh-perfect combat system.

>>377491001
AM I NOT WORTHY

>>377492060
>looks awesome in concept arts
>looks like shit ingame
Why Lucifer is the worst weapon?

Reckon we will see a DMC 5 at e3

>>377481970
It works for criminal organisations, so I don't see why it wouldn't work for a demon hunter.

>>377494080
>using items in environment
then make contained arenas with building/items and shit to fuck around then.
Fuck puzzles and platforming. Nobody likes them.

>>377493545
You need something to break up the combat so it doesn't get fatiguing.

Even God Hand had a casino for this purpose.

>>377497685
Not just the casino
God Hand also had some minigames in the main story

The Vergil battle in stage 13 is still one of the best video game moments to this day.

https://youtu.be/tSsiLDd2AjI

>>377497685
>Even God Hand had a casino for this purpose.
And that shit was fucking optional.
>Player fatigue
Yeah, let's ruin a game because some fucking pussies or add riddled fucks get sick of gameplay.
Turning off the fucking game is better some shitty puzzle/platforming section or god forbid some fucking atrocious mini game like Route666 or Shmup for the sake of "pacing". Even if you beat them and know the solution, how to get past it quickly, that is still time lost for some shitty distraction.
>>377497886
And nobody fucking liked them. Nobody looks at the simon says/ship canon shit and thinks "wish there were more of it"

>>377493115
Lady's sacrifice genes come from Arkham, not Kalina Ann.

>>377492428
In my dream DMC5 it just picks up from 2 with Nero going to hell to look for Dante.

I really like the idea of chapter challenge in Razor's Edge. It's all story levels but without any cinematic bullshit - no cutscenes, no cinematic slow walking - just action. I wish other action games adopted such gameplay mode. It should be standard like bloody palace mode.