ad/v/anced wars by web /v/eekend thread

>>377449059
Make this every weekend please, what a time to be alive

>>377449059
plz dont make this another "we want waifu wars"

>>377449276
We want waifu wars

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>>377449541
no you fucking dont

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First for best CO

>advanced wars
>advanced
Autism triggering.

>>377449059
Mednafen when?

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Sami is best CO and best girl. Sasha and Jess are also very good girls.

Thread music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqEM-bypICk

>>377449591
Better than being PS3's

>>377449685
What are the servers again?

>"I wish they'd make a new Advance Wars"
>"They'd just make it waifushit like Fire Emblem"
>"tfw you're right"

Okay now that we've had that conversation for the 77th time does anyone else feel like that wouldn't be what would happen?

DoR's writing was a huge step away in tone, and it felt like a decisive step, like it was the direction they wanted the series to stay in. Even stuff like Dr. Morris' jokes and everyone goofing around in the Tactical Tip Tent was US only.

>>377449925
These would seem to be them.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/v_Advance_Wars/discussions/0/485622866440406769/

>>377449876
DoR had some pretty groovy music.

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>>377449918
>Better than being PS3's
>this

i just want it dead then

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>The /v/eekends are back

Finally!

>>377449876
Jess's theme will always be the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-T8KwCCNh8

>>377450101
Or not, I can't connect to the Omachi.moe server.

>>377449876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK3A0T8W_vU
I dig Dual Strike's end credits tune

>>377450125
Who cares about the waifus as long as we get more game

>>377450206
Omachi's been dead for a while. Stick to Mednafen-US.

>>377450206
First mednafen server actually works, I guess.

>>377450206
Well it is someone's private server.

What's the command to join again? Can't bloody remember.

>>377450284
even if it goes down in quality

OP here, game is up and ready to join
http://awbw.amarriner.com

game name: Ad/v/anced Wars /v/eekend
password: opsucksthedick

>>377450348
4.- To connect to an active server, press T to type /server IP PORT or /connect IP PORT
5.- So we can tell you apart, press T to type /nick YOURNICKNAME

>>377450085
DoR atmosphere really did come out of fucking nowhere.

The writing is better but man this shit is depressing and dark. Half of what made Advance war so much fun for people was the cutsey colorful nature of the game and story.

I do feel DoR did a lot of good like add in interesting mechanics and balanced the game to near perfection.

>>377450424
Also

If you join a session with people on it, ask if there's any available open spots. If so, type:

/dupe 1

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>>377450205
The slap bass in advance wars tracks makes my dick hard.

>>377450508
If anyone else wants to join, use this server.

Mednafen Server (USA): *
Address: mednafen-us.emuparadise.org
Port: 4046

>>377450410
how the fuck do I join

>>377449876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCMVJ7OAKmw

Goat song

Shit tier waifus need not apply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiQNdfHGxyc

>>377450281
This song always makes me kind of sad. Also reminds me the game was basically it's Advance Wars: Iraq War theme.

>>377450598
im in

what do?

>>377450616
go to the website
register
go to waiting (private)
click on the game and join

>>377450937
>it's Advance Wars: Iraq War theme.

The english I wrote there is god awful. Let me fix that shit: "Advance Wars: Totally Not thematically based on the Iraq War edition".

>>377450827
Sensei was my nigga.

It's a shame he's overpowered so everyone gave me shit if I picked him.

>>377451091
You sure? Neither of us currently ingame see you in here.

>>377451091
We can't see you. Sure you're in here? We're doing a comp stomp while we wait for more players.

>>377451091
wait for the game to fill up friendo

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>>377449740
My fucking nigga.

>>377450909
DoR had great CO tracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL5owaPmT9w

sorry podasky and dav42 it seems like there isn't much interest.

>>377451845
Look again bby

>>377449620
>>377449740
not
>MONEY IS POWER

>>377451845
Cool, does that mean we can do DoR instead?
http://forums.warsworldnews.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=14031

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>>377451998
just need 2 more now

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Just you wait, they will eventually make a new AW. Any minute now.

>>377451091
i still dont get it

i joined that server but the only player was me?

>>377452503
we need one more player here kiddo
http://awbw.amarriner.com

>>377452503
Are you sure you joined the server properly? There's two of us in there and we can't see you.

>>377452594
im deadchicksforfun

>>377452629
what game?

>>377452503
Once your mednafen is up, press t and type
/connect mednafen-us.emuparadise.org 4046

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>>377452097
One of these veekends we should try to get this to work. I'm shit at DoR but there's no denying that it's alot more balanced.

>>377452813
wait what advance wars game was it?

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>>377452691
ah okay fampai

>>377452969
2

OP again, i'm going to throw in the towel and just make a new 5 player game. It'll have the same game name and password

Anyone else going to pop in on mednafen?

Did ANY of you mongrels manage to start a game yet? If so, where are the pics?

>>377453928
im trying to

>>377453996
What are you having trouble with?

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I noticed a pattern in good AW maps.

>2 Starting land bases for each player
>1-2 Expansions land bases for each player
>0-3 air bases
>2-3 different paths to get to enemy base.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

Do they just use minimax trees in turn based AI?

Why is tbs AI so shit without cheating/unfair advantages?

Is it hardware constraints? Developers being lazy? or is the problem just too hard?

>>377454130
joining in general

im "in" but there are no others there and i have followed the instructions to a T

>>377454315
So you're playing AW2 on Mednafen right now, pressed t and typed in
/connect mednafen-us.emuparadise.org 4046
EXACTLY as it shows? And still nothing?

>>377454487
wrong version

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How do I GIT GUD in this? I remember rushing building with infantries for money and spamming neo-tanks when I was a kid

>>377454230
There's so many variables in something like AW that there's a point at which AI is serviceable and in a shippable state.

>>377454645
if someone could upload their setup of mednafen and rom of AW it would probably make set-up and connection easier.

server lists
Mednafen Server (USA): *
Address: mednafen-us.emuparadise.org
Port: 4046

Mednafen Server (Netherlands): *
Address: mednafen-nl.emuparadise.org
Port: 4046

USA is full atm

>>377454801
Well you're halfway there. Infantry are extremely important. You just want to switch the neotanks out with more cost-effective vehicles, most commonly small tanks, artillery, antiair, and attack helicopters.

>>377454918
yeah

i downloaded this: www.mediafire.com/download/35cct9gh28jc9qa/

>>377454841
But it's not liking you should be branching down every single variable. Some things are just silly.

Like their ridiculous heuristic of APC targeting regardless of circumstance and over more important units just shows me the devs made some really bad decisions.

>>377454841
And not just the APC thing, there are many scenarios where you wonder why the AI didn't do something obvious that would put the situation in its favor.

Even a naive algorithm like searching over the graph of all possible confrontations within reach on this turn and setting the node with the largest difference between economy damage to the enemy vs to myself as the goal, you would get a better outcome compared to the dumb shit the AI did.

>>377454230
In the case of AW hardware is problably a consideration but in general the problem being too hard is the main reason, you'd have to include AlphaGo level AI with every game.

>>377455225
>Like their ridiculous heuristic of APC targeting
That I recall being an AW1-only thing, and they even used it intentionally as one of the tutorial maps teaches you how to take abuse of the fact.

There's a plenty of ways to improve the AI present in the games as-is, but not only could it slow the pace of the game down with AI very possibly taking longer turns and potentially call some versus mode balancing into question (except DoR with non-CO maps, anyway). Of course, hardware is the most limiting factor of all.

Anyone ever play Advance Wars ROM hacks?

This one is a fun campaign edit where Andy becomes the leader of black hole.

http://forums.warsworldnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=13796

And this one is an interesting edit that adds new units to the game + other stuff and has a bunch of new War Room maps.

http://forums.warsworldnews.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13773

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>>377456049

>>377455647
Making it better than a good human player may be hard, but making it better than the existing AW AI is not hard at all.

You can step through the logic yourself on some arbitrary turn and find that the game uses very simple heuristics that are plain wrong in many cases. If they did a proper graph search ( which in most situations the depth is certainly shallow enough to be feasible on GBA hardware) the unit would do something somewhat clever like sacrificing a weaker unit to take down the stronger unit (destroyed unit cannot heal so the weight there should be set higher than simple economic damage). But instead the AI will immediately resort to a heuristic like (this enemy costs more, I better not attack it because its futile)

>>377454186
>2-3 different paths to get to enemy base.
Square MOBA-path map with airports on the corner intersections and a factory in the center. Scatter cities evenly.

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US server is working
>>377455142
used this and joined fine.

Looking to start a new game at:
/connect mednafen-nl.emuparadise.org 4046

>>377456129
You should also consider the overall "fun" factor of an AI. I'm not saying that AW isn't far too predictable, but an average player will probably enjoy playing against a simpler AI than one that makes more optimal moves.

Another consideration might be map design or how the designers intend the maps to be beaten optimally, and they do this design work around the predictable AI. That's just a random thought, of course.

>>377456129
That's certainly true, but it isn't just devs being lazy, development time is limited.

>>377456580
Did anyone join?

>>377457195
Yeah, we're trying to figure out the controls.
alt-shift-1 to configure keyboard
/dupe1 to join the game
/nick "USERNAME" to enter a username

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need 2 more for the nether lands sever.

I'm so glad Advance Wars is dead, most "fans" have only emulated the games, and the new FE is still better than the old AW anyway.

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>377457762
simply epic

>>377457845
>no argument
He's right, AW has always sold poorly and was only popular with GBArom sites

Oh, but shitposting is an argument. Okay, sure.

>>377458058
>anything you don't like is shitposting
Are AW fans the tumblr of vidya?

>>377457762
In some perverse way I enjoy FEH in that all attacks are guaranteed, much like AW. If they used that to build a more fleshed out game than just a simple gatcha, I'd enjoy it a whole lot more. And this is coming from a guy who didn't play Awakening, but beat Conquest on Lunatic without trying the other difficulties.

>>377450410
why does nintendo allow this?

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Commander Brenner.

>>377458786
They haven't even killed pokemon showdown yet. They're either being nice or they're profoundly retarded and haven't realized either exists yet.
I'm thinking it's the latter.

>>377458786
Because why bother spending money to defend a dead ass IP they have no apathy for even continuing?

>>377458786
Keeps the IP alive at no cost to them.

>>377459370
That site has been around the block since 2004, so Nintendo could have stepped in way-back-when if they really wanted to.

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>>377449740
Dont' forget

Does the server werk on linux?
If so, I can host one permanently

NEW ADVANCE WARS OR GOOD QUALITY CLONE WHEN?

>>377450598
shit people are still using this? I remember when this was started over a year ago

>>377460369
Mednafen's work just fine. What we really need to liven this place up is a streamer.

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>>377460476
>streamer.
>cancerworm

no thanks

That's all Cool, but how do you mute the enulator in windows 10? They removed separate volume control as far as I can tell.

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>>377449740
>he doesn't main the 'cheese everybody with infinite range' CO

>>377460901
he's based as fuck

>>377460538
I think he just means so that everyone else can watch the battle royal
I'd watch if someone hosts

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>>377460901
>he mains a broken

>>377461089
>seen that image thousands of time
>never given a fuck
>3am and in voip with a friend and drinking some water
you can guess the rest

>>377460791
upgrade to windows 7

>>377461445
>you can guess the rest

Not really, no. The fuck you on about?

>>377461089
>Grits
>Broken
Na my dude. He's pretty tamed.

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>When everyone activates their dual strike on the same turn

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I remember someone was making an image explaining COs powers. Was it ever finished?

twitch affathekommander¨
the shitty steam of aw2

>>377463071
streaming*

>>377461089
I bet you moan about zoning characters in fighting games too, ya scrub

>have been stuck on the last mission in Advance Wars 1 for the last two months
I fucking suck

>>377463701
Don't sweat it friend, I've been stuck on it for 15 years (I lost the cart)

I even had Max/Kanbei which I remember hearing was optimal

>>377463071
no music?

>>377464068
??

>>377464148
It is normal if I don't hear the game music

>>377463701
I had to redo the whole games to have the desired Co back then.
Advanced campaign was a nightmare.

Who wants to create an AWBW server?

>>377464375
Why?

>>377464707
Because I'm bored as fuck and I don't want this thread to die. Did I mention that I'm bored?

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>>377449620

>>377463958
>>377463701

I believe the way I did it involved using Sami and capturing enough resources to produce a steady stream of mechs every turn, and marching them towards the front line in a suffocating pillar that slowly choked out the enemy and their resources.

Kinda sad how viable that tactic is on most maps. Though the first time I ever tried it, I fell in love. Used it to break a stalemate that had already gone on for very, very long, so it felt like if WWI was won by slowly inching the trenches all the way to Paris/Berlin, as was the original intention.

>>377464880
Start a /v/ Plays like the Fire Emblem threads do, then

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>>377464880
Ded thred

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>>377465083
>/v/ plays Advance Wars threads
Not a bad idea.

>>377457545
>Using Andy or Olaf in AW2
for what purpose

>>377465267
Nigger ragequit Shining Force after one thread. I don't think he'd stand much of a chance against any AW besides DS.

>>377449059
I had no idea how I was going to beat that when I first saw it. Even know I don't know how I could have beaten it.

>>377465634
I thought it was easier than the normal campaign to be honest.

>>377465419
Nigger gave up on AW immediatly.

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>>377464880
>>377465090

>>377465969
It looks really intimidating though.

>>377466156
Make a fucking server in AWBW and keep people updated of what we do then.

I played but never beat the first AW. How doomed am I?

>>377466397
Depends. Are we talking about Advance Campaign?
Anyways don't feel bad, the games are hard the first time you play them kek

>>377466227
Yeah, but if you've made it that far in the game, then it's not significantly more difficult than the missions you had to complete to get there.

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I've been thinking about this for a while.

How about an extra sci-fi Advance Wars sequel for a change? Hear me out.

>Orange Star.

They're the Scions of a powerful intergalactic Empire: the best of the best Soldiers in the Galaxy, genetically engineered, indoctrinated into crusading across the stars in search of humans to save and aliens to slay. Powerful, Power Armored troops all around. Their "Core" troops are as powerful as other factions' Elites.

>Blue Moon.

Exiles of a cataclysmic event which swiped the bulk of their people into the verge of extinction. Now they must survive in the dark corners of the Galaxy on the run from the remnants of the Cataclysm which wants them dead. Extremely agile units with powerful psychic powers, and hit-and-run tactics doctrine, to increase their dying species' survival rates.

>Yellow Comet.

A naive, upcoming powerhouse race from the far-reaches of the Galaxy, somehow avoided contact with the more powerful Empire long enough to become a powerhouse of enlightened engineering. They find the other faction's fighting tactics to be the product of a by-gone era, and fight using only long ranged weaponry and artillery, aided with powerful mecha and drone weaponry.

>Green Earth.

The scum of the galaxy, in more ways than one. A barbaric race of nigh-immortal plant people who infest the planet on arrival and are nearly impossible to uproot once planted. Infestation starts with banditry, grows into a rebellion, and then a full-blown invasion on anything not Green Earth. Their units are Melee specialists, first and foremost, with the addition of randomized but extremely powerful psychic effects and raggedy technology that JUST WORKS somehow.

>Black Hole.

A dormant race from eons before the birth of the first star, now awakened to bring death to the galaxy and it's inhabitants. The Black Hole is anathema to life itself, and wherever they awaken turns into a barren world, stripped bare by their molecular cannons.


How about it?

>>377466546

mecho wars

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>>377466546
Nice, but holy fuck that's long

>>377460901
this guy is great. I made a tabletop character roughly based off of him.

>>377466546
I like it. I could even tell the Black Hole units are some sort of gooey, monster stuff like the Inklings, only scarier.

>AND WITH MY LAST BREATH, I SPITE THEE
T-thanks.

>>377466546
Green Earth should have been the "purity of humanity, Earth is our homeland, fuck off-worlders" faction (emphasis on Green EARTH). Orange Star can stay the OP galactic empire, Blue Star can stay the rebellion forces, Yellow Comet can stay as space China.

>>377466546
so wh40k romhack

>>377466546
>melee
>in Wars
nope.

>>377467315
Actually, you might be right. How about this instead?

>Green Earth.

Humans in every sense of the world, with only numbers and sheer grit to serve as shield against the horrors of the galaxy. The Green Earth is exceedingly militaristic and merciless in it's approach of holding the line in protecting their Holy Terra, and will turn on any traitors or cowards with the same lethality they would their enemies. A long-ranged faction, the backbone in their humongous tanks and generally versatile units that resemble World War 2 and 1 in their aesthetic.

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>it's a 'sonja loses a game she couldn't lose' episode

>>377467868
Not quite yet, plus Green cucked me out of the caps I had going.

>>377449059
Is the first Advance Wars redundant due to Black Hole Rising?

>>377468037
Nah. AW1 has much stronger level design throughout its campaign.

>>377468037
2 is better, but 1 has the best turorial and the harder advanced campaign by far. You think advanced campaign liberation was a casual filter? You ain't seen nothin yet.

1's advance campaign is artificial difficulty. Several missions are what's known as "suicide missions". The game delivers a swift kick to your nutsack by throwing one at you on the very first mission. Remember that easy as fuck mission Kanbei's error? The advanced campaign version is in the top 3 hardest missions in the entire series.

>>377468589
>Rivals in Advance Campaign
Oh God fuck no
You saw whoisthisgit's video, didn't you?

>>377468089
Blatant lies

>>377468589
>AC Kanbei's Error, AKA stuck in the corner: the map

>>377468879
>AC Rivals, AKA stuck in the corner: the map*
FTFY

Anyone still want to play on Mednafen?

>>377468784
No, I played it. It's fuckin hard

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>Kanbei and three nobodies
I think I know how this one's going to turn out.

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>>377468784
>>377468940
>mfw after seeing advance campaign rivals

Jesus christ that's worse than Kanbei's error by far. How the fuck did such an easy mission become this monster?

Fucking really though, he thought regular campaign rivals was hard? I beat thay when I was 10 and thought it was easier than Mighty Kanbei. I'm not fuckin with the advanced version though, fuck that.

>>377469602

Maybe if you fuckers would tell me what you're talking about.

>>377471704
We're full up now, but Ctrl+F Mednafen to find out what we're talking about.

>>377449620
Waylon did nothing wrong.

>>377471458
Told ya. It's worse when you try it.

>>377471142
Kanbei is an enigma.
How could be be so fucking good that his troops are basically superior all-around units, but then be so fucking stupid that he doesn't know basic strategy?

Thanks for the HQ, Blue.

>>377472618
His NCOs are all keeners like Sonja so the men are trained to the highest level

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>When your enemy is about to use their super but then you use market crash with 20-30k in the bank and ruin everything for them
>When you flood the enemy with APCs and infantries, then use victory march and instantly cap the enemy HQ
>When you flood an enemy's HQ with so many units that you can just park them all on their factories so they can't fight back
Best feelings.

>>377472738
I hope you enjoyed your stay.

>>377474860
I think I'll stop on by again soon enough.

>>377475041
I'm taking your HQ now.

>>377472618
Only the strongest soldiers have survived his terrible strategies in the past leading to a force of grizzled veterans.
Of course that means there are fewer troops to choose from because most of them are dead leading to the increased cost to field them.

>>377457329
Kind of late, but here's the copypasta

1.- Download and extract www.mediafire.com/download/35cct9gh28jc9qa/
2.- Double click mednafen.bat
or just drag and drop "aw2.gba" into "mednafen.exe"
3.- Press Alt + Shift + 1 to setup your controls. (At every unique button prompt, press the key you want to assign it to TWICE so it moves on towards the next button).
4.- To connect to an active server, press T to type /server IP PORT or /connect IP PORT
5.- So we can tell you apart, press T to type /nick YOURNICKNAME
6.- Play the fucking game.

If you join a session with people on it, ask if there's any available open spots. If so, type:

/dupe 1

to share the control. I know this is 4chan, but don't be a dick and take control or move other people's units when it's not your turn.

>Mednafen Server (USA):
Address: mednafen-us.emuparadise.org
Port: 4046

>Mednafen Server (Netherlands):
Address: mednafen-nl.emuparadise.org
Port: 4046

>Some anon's dedicated server (Paris, France):
Address: omachi.moe
Port: 8092

Ok, I am quiting the game cause my shitty laptop got overheat. Sorry, Blue.
t. Green

>>377479289
Well, at least now I know I'm going to lose.

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Anyone else here excited for Wargroove?

>>377479697
Not really.

Good match anons. You had me, Blue, I'll admit that much.

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I wish there were other tactics games with hype music.
Theres a difference between knowing you're going to make a crater out of the opposing army and feeling it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-L_DWrfgD8&t=140s

Time for the threads to die for another month.

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Anyone else like this guy even if he wasn't the greatest?

>>377482581
There was one War Room map with just a wall of Comm Towers that I really cheesing with him

>>377449059
Never forget the time someone tracked down a Moderator on an Advance Wars forum and literally killed him
aka autism general?

>>377483634
>[citation needed]
bait general

>>377484071
Not that anon, but that seriously happened.

>>377479697
It's Chucklefish so I have no doubt in my mind that they're going to fuck it up. Thankfully they'll allow mods.

>>377449059
I' m playing my first Advance wars game. Playing Dual Strike. I hope this franchise isn't dead cause of fire emblem waifu-uuu. Advance Wars feels more tactical and yet less stressful. It's amazing.

>>377485254
>I hope this franchise isn't dead cause of fire emblem waifu-uuu
Sadly, you hoped wrong. Though the lack of sales in Japan also helped it towards it's demise.