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So what's the budget of Nier Automata?

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I've heard, that cost of making this game was like 5 million dollars. What game would look like, if it had 50 million budget?
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Best girl.
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I'm fine with what we got. It's a miracle Yoko Taro is given any money at all
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>>377437823
>What game would look like, if it had 50 million budget?
ME:Andromeda

So according to that logic we should be happy he only got 5mil to make the game.
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>>377438160
>It's a miracle Yoko Taro is given any money at all
This. He's a "quirky low budget" guy.
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>>377437823
>All style no substance

Probably would be just as shit, since they entirely missed the concept of a game that you actually want to PLAY not just listen to and watch.
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>>377438070
>causes continuous suffering for 100 super-advanced androids who just want to live in peace and love someone
>causes horrible suffering to the pair of main characters
Worst, you mean.
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>>377438160
>Yoko Taro is given any money at all
Well, that might change now, since he sold like 1 million copies in first months.. 1 million copies for around ~60 bucks.. Not bad for a game with no marketing (well, except 2b's ass).
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>>377437823
66% of Nier Automata is retreading old grounds.
The game was obviously low budget, there were few environments and those few were pretty small as well. The graphics weren't top notch either. They still haven't even patched the PC version.

With a 50 million budget the game would have been amazing, adding missions on the moon, much larger and open-world environments, better graphics etc.
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>>377438568
Things would be so much worse for everyone except 9S if she wasn't doing her job.
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>>377438568
For the glory of the mankind!
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>>377438582
> missions on the moon
For what purpose
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>>377438568
THEY HAD TO HAVE A UNIFYING PURPOSE! SHE MADE THE HARD CHOICE!
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>>377437823
A lot of stuff that ended in sidematerials could have ended ingame.
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>>377438582
Also, textures in demo version (prologue) looked so much better than everywhere else..
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>>377437823
I think you can see the tightness of the budget in the bland as fuck overworld. I found so boring running on it to the points marked on the map.

Most of the budget went on 2b's butt and I agree with that.
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Honestly I was really disappointed by this game, probably the only game I played this year that I thought was pretty shit. Have no idea why it got hyped up so much and why it sold better than other niche JRPGs
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>>377437823
I hope they paid the composer and sound engineers a good chunk of this money. The OST and dynamic music is what made the game stand out for me

>mfw this song and all its variants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPXuopwIdBo
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>>377438787
To stop the robos from destroying the last remnants of humanity.
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How well optimized is this? I have a 960 4gb and wondering if I can run it well on high settings
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>>377437823
Probably more locations. There are literally countries, android goverments in Nier world. Would love to see those Aussie shitposter androids, who took a piss on serving dead people..
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>>377439013
But there exists no remnant of humanity. Only one pod and one H-Unit.

It be more interested seeing A2 or Atlantis stuff
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>>377439089
With FAR everything's possible.
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Shit man, even 1 million used to be considered ridiculously extravagant
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>>377438724
At least she realized that 9S can be made stable thanks to 2B and gave him the info.
Shame it happened only after 2B has already suffered for years and was on a verge on complete mental breakdown.
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>>377438582
>square gives a notice a week after launch that they're looking into the bugs and working on a patch
>3 months go by and still nothing
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>>377439147
There's a moon base there moron and human DNA. Wouldnt it be awesome to blow up robots on the jagged surface of the moon in low gravity?

A2 can be dlc shit,
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>>377439000
Well, I guess it's the melancholy atmosphere of this game. That desolated, yet beautiful world + music was what made me like this game. The story was average, combat was ok. Oh, and I loved those 2.5d sections of the game.
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>>377439089
With far you can play it on a 760GTX at 1080p at around 45fps average.

I think you will do well.
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>>377439206
Zelda's budget was 60 million. Witcher 3 - 80 million or even more..
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Maybe A2 could've gotten an actual campaign instead of the lame shit we got. Why was she even on the cover?
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>>377439205
>>377439485
Alright, so is this far a community patch?
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>>377439647
She's in the background of it and not really noticeable, just like her story
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>>377439647
A2 is behind actual main characters for a reason.
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>>377437823
>5 million
Source?
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>>377439359
No it wouldnt because it would be boring shit that no one really needs. The game already did it well enough to explain that the moon base is worthless aside making Androids believe real humans live on it.

The new timeline added enough interesting scenarios that are more interesting than expanding unnecessary things
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>>377439664
Yes.
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I wish I liked this game more than I do. Its one of the biggest disappointments I've ever had and holy fuck did it have the potential for more.
The game peaked in 3 hours in the amusement park, after that it was just a steady downhill with very small bumps of goodness on the way to a mediocre at best conclusion
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>>377439948
>Peaked in the amusement park
>Not the Global Yorha invasion
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>>377439948
Well, it's a niche game with no budget. A lot of people (possibly including you) bought it only because of 2b's ass.
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>>377440243
> Global
I dont think you can launch a Global Invasion with 200 YoRHa
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>>377439948
Name a better game, that came out this year...
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A2
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>>377440274
BUUUURRRHHAAAP
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>>377438568
I would love her
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>>377440243
> invasion
> not 9S and A2 going up the tower and fighting the Koshi and Roshi
That back and forth switching with that music was 10/10
The tower was amazing from start to finish.
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>>377440502
Trails in the Sky the 3rd

Persona 5

Tales of Berseria
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So why did these two suicided for 9s?

>also best song before sleep
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMBScNW_CNc
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>>377440769
I found Persona 5 boring as hell
Tales got a little too repetitive

Currently playing the 3rd, I'll get back to you on that.
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>>377440708
>when you almost beat the boss and game starts switching between two of them non-stop
It was a vastly different experience from Shadowlord fight but holy shit it was a pure hype.
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>>377440502
Nioh

Its been a shit year so far. I don't know why you think being the best of shit is somehow good.
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I am looking forward to Taro's (and his team) next game. Hopefully he gets a bigger budget
>>377440769
>3rd
>this year
EOP please.
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>>377440967
This is an EOP website
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>>377440896
didn't you play nier 1?
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>>377440896
They were observing 2B and 9S over the course of entire game as they are always on the background of resistance camp. Probably understood that those two are in deep love and took pity on 9S because they understand what it is for android to lose its pair.

That, or they somehow knew about whole Number 9 dead and simply gave 9S a chance to correct the mess his evil alter ego has started.
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>>377440896
It was explained that they were reprogrammed to feel massive amounts of guilt and they thought they were atoning for their sins.
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Why does FF15 sucks so bad compared to Nier?
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>>377441087
>>377441085
They both mentioned, that they want to atone their sins. But how suiciding for 9s will atone for dooming humanity?
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>>377441265
I preferred FFXV, personally.
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>>377438580
I honestly heard absolutely nothing about this game besides shitposting on /v/, and now it's in my top 3 of the year.

Is this one case of word of mouth being extremely succesful?
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>>377441265
because Nier is a product of passion
the last FF that felt like a product of passion was 12, and Square fucked it up hard too
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>>377441265
FF15 was okay for what it was but still sucks compare to any other recent major RPG (Berseria, Persona 5, Automata)
At least those feel like complete stories.
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>>377438568
>Androids
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>>377438393
What is it about this game that attracts such blind hatred from people who have obviously never even played it?
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>>377439948
mb you shouldnt have stopped playing after routa A
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>>377438738
I want to use her as a glory hole for mankind
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Before playing this game, I thought that commander is the secret villain. Oh how wrong I was..
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>>377441871
But she kinda was in a way.
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>>377441329
Because 9S was the only one who could potentially stop Tower from destroying the last human data on the Moon. And he did, though in a different way that they thought, by allowing N2 to evolve and understand the concept of love.
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>>377441348
Why not? Demon's Souls is another example that clearly escalated from word of mouth into mainstream high-budget sequels.
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Was hoping for more lewds of the whole crew but oh well.
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It was a miracle that Yoko got what he got. He probably has some blackmail shit going on.
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>>377442019
Just wait for the A2 DLC in e3...
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>>377439948
>I wish I liked this game more than I do. Its one of the biggest disappointments I've ever had and holy fuck did it have the potential for more.
I wouldn't go that far, but I really do feel frustrated at how disappointed I was with the game when I beat it.
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>>377442289
Taro outright stated that they were given no DLC budget and he already ceased his work in Platinum's office, expecting any new content is moronic.

And if anything, we would've gotten Atlantis and M002.
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>>377442097
One of SE's executives goes to bat for him repeatedly. He apparently threatened to resign if they didn't give him another shot. Thankfully Platinum are huge fans of the first Nier.
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Is this game SJW wetdream? Strong females, weak white males, lesbians everywhere etc. Is it okay, when Japan does it?
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>>377442097
While Taro's games don't sell, there are people working in the industry love what he does.
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>>377442417
>he doesn't know
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>>377442417
strong female =/= SJW wetdream.
It's not like the game goes out of its way to say shit like "wahhh, woman can do ____ too!"
It's not even close to being a sjw game.
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>>377442417
>9S
>Weak

Hes the strongest Android in the game
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>>377442417
> strong females
> weak males
Did we play the same game.

Stop posting on /v/ 21O
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>>377442417
>weak white males

9s is a murder machine and is the most expressive and competent person in the game.
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>>377442417
I saw people complaining that 2B looks like a fetish doll, which I really disagree with

You have to understand that SJWs exist only to complain. Their "problems" seem so miniscule and invented because they ARE miniscule and invented, they have to be because they're not actual problems.

Entire industries - journalism and literature in particular - are propped up on complaining about fucking nothing
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>>377442396
j-u-s-t

wait for the A2: the prequel DLC

He said a lot of stuff.. But always lies
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>>377442620
Taro never lies. He said that Automata's ending is a happy end. He even made a remark in concert script that they may change parts of the performance.
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>>377442517
>>377442542
>>377442548
He's a manlet compared to female androids and can't wield two swords.. Oh, and he fucking looks like he's 12. At least Toobie and others look 18..
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>>377442694
wait for the A2 DLC.. It will come out
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>>377442824
Oh wow. It's almost as if he wasn't designed for combat!?!
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>>377442824
They are the same height without her heels.

He trades one weapon for ability to hack which is the single most OP shit in a setting full of machine life.
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>>377442824
>9S is weak and other Androids are strong
> singlehandly destroyed 4 flight units on his own and killed a shit ton of infected Androids
> but he's a manlet!
> canonically 2B and 9S are the same height, her heels make her taller
Did you ever have an argument you could work with?
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>>377442943
>Tasukete 2B
Get out of here 9S
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Can anyone answer, why YoRHa wear blindfolds?
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>>377443062
>4 flight units
There's like 6 there, if not more.
And that after 2E fight and getting blown up.
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>>377443227
It's the thing that displays their HUD
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>>377443227
See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil
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>>377443062
I still can't believe an android not fit for combat absolutely obliterated 4 flight units
The power of mindhaccing
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>>377443338
You should read up what #9 did or 9S did after he was activated for the first time
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>>377443338
With him combat designations doesn't mean shit. His prototype murdered entire satellite bunker full of advanced androids. Personality and his mind is what makes him powerful, body can be hacked or swapped if needed.
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>>377443329
But Toobie's eyes are pretty. What a waste of well made, cute face..
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>>377443435
>>377443453
What the fuck, when did it say this?
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>>377443641
Sidestory and new Automata timeline
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>>377443641
Side materials.
Oh, and read what happens a few months after 9S was rolled out.
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>>377443641
Well, 80% of the Nier Automata lore is outside the game
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>>377443760
>>377443714
>>377443709
Wew this is the first i'm hearing of it, where can I read that shit?
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>>377443641
In side materials. Telling your story in the game is for losers, apparently.
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So if 9s was so strong and all, why didn't he save 2b? Mind control, h4x and all that..
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>>377443995
He tried but was to late.
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>>377442824
9S models are canonically the most powerful androids in the world , they're the same height without heels
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>>377443995
He saved her like 5 times over the course of a game.
The only reason he failed in route C is because she took control of his flight unit and forced him to fly to safety, being hell-bent on dying for his sake and atoning for her sin.
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I genuinely feel bad for this guy. He only wanted to be with his bro..
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>>377444289
>tfw
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>>377444289
no homo
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>>377444289
Eve was a good boy, he deserved a better brother.
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>>377443842
Theres a pastebin in the /vg/ general
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>>377444479
Thanks.
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>>377444289
Makes me wonder. What character suffered the most in the Drakengard/Nier universe? I vote for Emil.
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>>377444683
That isnt even a contest
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can people who only played through ending A and maybe B refrain from posting ? i know it sounds like a meme to many but its so obvious when people didnt even get through half of the game when they judge about it
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>>377444683
The player.
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>>377444683
Emil is in his own, special category of suffering.
2B suffered the most from Automata's central cast.
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>>377437823
Nothing but all the joke endings would have had full cut scenes and voice acting
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>>377444683
Popola and Devola of Automata probably suffered more.. Emil was busy playing with aliens..
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>>377444908
They are together despite all the shit that surrounded them, and that's their greatest joy.
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>>377444908
this. getting literally programmed into suffering 24/7 no matter what only r9k can relate
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>>377444806
Duude, If could go back in time, I would've skipped C,D,E as well. Fuck that depressing shit..
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>>377442871
Yes it's coming out! some glorious A2 content is coming out!
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>>377444683
It isn't even close

>experimented on as a child and turned into a living weapon
>sister gets turned into a skelly monster
>forced to live alone with his only companion being his android butler for thousands of years
>has to kill his sister and gets turned into a skelly monster himself
>unintentionally nukes a village full of innocent people
>survives as a disemobidied head, but never sees his friends again
>thousands of years later after everyone he's ever cared about dies, forced to split his consciousness to defend the Earth
>does this for so long he loses his memories and becomes a retard
>meet androids whos first instinct is to kill you
>they break into your home and steal your shit
>immortal, meaning his suffering will never end

Emil had a hard life
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You know, it's a breath of fresh air, when advanced AI lifeforms don't want to destroy humans and actually LOVE them and want them back..
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>>377444908
At least they had each other and were given a new home with the resistance. Emil was by himself for centuries living with the fact that his closest friends were long dead and his new "friends" keep stealing shit from his home
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>>377445254
>they break into your home and steal your shit
???
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>>377437823
are you japanese?
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>2B: I don't want to kill him anymore ...
>Pod 153: Negative: Unit 2B's assignment is still in effect.
>Pod 153: The Commander has already denied the mission cancellation request submitted 64 hours ago.
>(The sound of a heartbeat stopping, and a flatline's beep.)
>2B: Why ... do I have to ...
>Pod 153: Report: Unit 2B was modeled after a YoRHa test model who was the last surviving member of her group.
>Pod 153: Unit 2B was chosen due to her ability to adapt to harsh environments as well as her combat capabilities.
>2B: I'm not suited for this mission at all ...
>Pod 153: Negative.
>2B: Someone ... help me ...
>(Pod 153 begins repeating itself as if it's broken.)
>(Behind the pod's voice, the sound of a flatline beep can be heard.)
>Pod 153: Negative ... Report: Proposal: Destruction: Order: Punishment: Humanity: Moon: Fiction: Machine: Boy: Conviction ...
>(2B shouts as though to block out the pod's voice.)
>2B: Nines!!
Fucking hell, those side materials.
How she even still maintains a shred of sanity.
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>>377445351
>Automata's Emil questline was basically about bullying him hard enough until he kills himself
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>>377445409
You can steal Emil's shit twice. Doing so lets you fight him.
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>>377445310
I think the fear of AI hating humans instead of loving them is more of a western concept. Japan loves robots and androids why would they rebel?
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>>377445472
Yoko fucking hates Emil
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look at this, LOOK AT THIS SHIT! Man 2b deserves all she got. Man was on his knees and killed him in cold blood! His last words were "Brother.." How can you defend this?
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>>377445674
> try to whack 9S
> wonders why he gets whacked instead
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>>377445674
Eve was a gayward
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>>377445606
What? Pulled that out from your ass?
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>>377442396
what is this thing about Atlantis?
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>>377441559
It wasn't Sony exclusive.
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>>377445874
Timeline was posted in this thread. Read it.
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>>377445849
I mean, Emil has been suffering for 63 thousand years.
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>>377445874
>>377443714
11942
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>>377444289
Basically 9S.
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>>377437823
I imagine the budget was $5-15 million. If it had a much higher budget the graphics would be a lot better. World would probably be larger and more varied. 9S would be voiced by some actual celebrity .
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>>377445950
>63 thousand years.
it's what year in Automata? 11000 something? it's only around 9k years..
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>>377445968
Adam and Eve were created as brothers, 9S came to love 2B by his own free will.
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>>377445674
He tried to kill everyone.
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>>377446108
Still, 9 thousand fucking years of pure suffering. I just want Emil to be happy.
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>>377446154
I would try to kill them as well, if they killed my brother.
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> Adam and Eve are the D&P of the Machine Network
>Even replicated their office
I have no idea how I didnt see that parallel befote
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>>377437823
More money doesn't always mean better. Just look at all those kickstarters that overstretched their goals and still got nowhere.

Would have been nice to have some higher quality textures in places and fully voiced dialogue everywhere. Maybe a more extensive C route.
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>>377437823
Bigger. More content and more maps with more detail, but dumbed down in every way to recoup costs.
At some point a big budget stops giving you the freedom to do more and starts restricting you. 50m is way too much money.
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>>377446262
Does that make Devola and Popola lesbians?
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>>377443329
Yeah and they breathe through their skin.
>>377443227
Clearly blindfolds are one of Taro's fetishes.
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>>377443227
i imagined they see through their pods and it would just be distracting to multiview ?
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>>377445674
At least if it was A2 she wouldn't killed him
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>>377447137
>042
>P-33
WHAT
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Any tips for reaching 95% unit data? It's the only remaining quest and I'm at 91%. I've been spelunking the entire game and I don't understand what could possibly be missing.
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>>377448396
Most likely rare enhanced units that you just have to get lucky with, and Emil if you haven't done that yet. Check the desert in chapter C for enhanced desert goliaths and enhanced kamikaze flyers. Those enhanced flying worm things can spawn in city ruins center or in the cave leading to Emil's place.

Bunny statue in the amusement park.

Can't remember what it was called but there is one type of biped that is only in one part of the game, when entering the underground abandoned factory as 2B, there is a staircase you can drop down from that will lead you to a room with this biped in it, standing on a pile of android bodies.
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>>377448396
There are some enemies that spawn only in certain chapters or rarely replace normal spawns.

http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/Enemies
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF
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>>377445310
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Question
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>Like the game
>Can't really play it because it crashes all the time, forcing me to restart huge sections of the game
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>>377449776
AMD card ?
latest driver fixes whitescreen crashes at least
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>>377443714
Oh fuck, the timeline was massively updated since the last time I've seen it. It's a shame how much really cool stuff wasn't even mentioned ingame.
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>>377449961
No, Nvidia
I'll update my drivers anyway and hope that will fix it
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>>377438070
cant you annoying waifu faggots just contain yourselves to /vg/? derailing a thread in the second post with your faggotry
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>>377437823
It would have had a proper A2 route. Third playthrough should have been all about her before the game's story began and then the fourth one be the final one. In the game she's just kinda there.
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>>377450548
Bro.. There is a A2 DLC gonna be revealed in 3e, it's about her past..

For the best girl
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>>377442594

>I saw people complaining that 2B looks like a fetish doll

That's literally what she is, visually. Yoko Taro even had S&M gear as visual aid for her design.

And we're all the better for it.
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>>377437823
more memes
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>>377443714
Just how many more WW2 references can the madman add to the backstory?
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>>377450875
only wishing doesnt make it more true
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>>377451662
bruh..
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>>377450875
we dont need DLC, we have the stage play which depicts the descending on pearl harbor and introduces a lot of characters from the resistance camp that are on the main game
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>>377451887
no

play stage, concert whatever is shit
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>>377451887
I'd rather have more playable content than read a story summary someone translated from japanese on the internet.

I still think it's a shitty storytelling to rely on external media to flesh out the world and give the characters proper backstories. Why couldn't we get more ingame info at least about critical things like 9S developement and previous iterations?
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>>377441871

No one was the villian they were fighting for a raison de'tere.

if the Machines don't fight the Androids and the Androids don't fight the Machines then they have no point in existing even though both of their creators are extinct.
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>>377444289
I still think they were fucking. He sounded way too eager to go "play" everytime.
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>lol just play this mediocre waste of time four times in a row and then the story will kind of make sense
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>>377441921

Machines weren't planning on destroying the last human data on the moon at all. You could see this at the start of route C when the Tower arose when they released the soul towers for collection for the ark to another world. The invasion of the tower was pretty pointless.

Route C felt like you were doing something but the ending was already set in stone when ADAM was born in Route A.
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>>377452684
>achines weren't planning on destroying the last human data on the moon at all
They merely changed their mind and it only happened thanks to 9S' invasion.
N2 was unsure about what to do next even when it confronted A2.
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>>377445438
Wait is this real?
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>>377453123
Yes, it's from concert script.
Entire first part is about 2B nearly devolving to autistic shrieks because of how painful it is for her to backstab 9S repeatedly.
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>>377453123
yes, there is a lot of side material, novels, stage plays, etc..
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>>377452861

See the start of route C when the tower erupted from the ground.

You know those three sparks the soul boxes Meat, God and Soul boxes, they were data collection purpose for the ark, the invasion didn't do anything at all.

It was stated in the final content written by Jackass the Machines could of defeated the Androids at any time but they refuse to.
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>>377438738
i want to lick those glossy robolips
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>>377453327
They were merely collecting the accumulated info about machines and purging unneeded projects. Their initial plan included destruction of moon server.
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>>377441921
understant the concept the concept of love ?
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>>377441350
the only thing going on for fff15 is the production values, imagine neir with half the budged ff15 had.
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>>377453263
>>377453234
Man I love this game
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>>377440502
Prey
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>>377449776
>>377450283
There's many solutions to the white screen crash and none of them completely eliminate it. However, I also have an Nvidia card and what worked best for me was to not play in Fullscreen. With or without FAR does not matter the game is miles more stable in windowed. It's a difference of crashing every 30m-2h or crashing every 6 hours.

I ended up using FAR to make it borderless windowed that used the entire screen perfectly so it was no different from the fullscreen experience.
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>>377443227
From a interview with yoko taro


Q: Why do the YoRHa androids and Operators have visors covering their eyes and mouths, respectively?

A: The visors over the eyes is to represent the characters cannot see reality whereas the Operators cannot speak about reality.

Each of the emblems also represent this. The Resistance, with the emblem of an open eye, means that they understand the reality that surrounds them. On the other hand, YoRHa are ignorant to the fact of reality.

What is the meaning behind the Bunker being in only Black and White? It’s because that is the World of Death, and all of them will soon be dead…
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>>377445674
>letting him live so he can have another psychotic breakdown and cause all the machines to have another outrage
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>>377455701
If you've completed this game id recommend reading these questions and answers from yoko taro himself.

http://nier2.com/blog/2017/05/03/notes-from-the-live-broadcast-at-storia/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F7KM18848_HHlQFviGCkJbXV1M-5SKm_HnVBTzzYlDg/edit 50 questions and answers.
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Fellas, where do I get that unofficial patch for PC?
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>>377440502

Breath of the Wild, duh
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>>377442824
>most modern android
>so dangerous they are assigned their own eliminator unit
>weak
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>>377456679
https://github.com/Kaldaien/FAR/releases/tag/far_057

Just get the .zip and unzip in game folder.
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Where can I read all the side material?
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>>377457257

This one doesn't work on pirated copies right?
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>>377457529
That's right. In that case just play windowed for true resolution and better stability.
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