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Eddie, how can you sit there and make a silent hill thread.

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Eddie, how can you sit there and make a silent hill thread.
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EDDIE, LET ME GO BACK TO MY HOME
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SH2 IS OVERRATED
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>>377436190
SH3 is the real masterpiece
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBxsxtOxRus
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There was a good series here. It's gone now.
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Fuckers
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If silent hill takes place in the real world, where is all the people?
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FUCK ALL OF YOU
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>>377436930
Behind the millions of locked or "broken" doors you come across in game.
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>>377435590
I don't understand if the town is supposed to abandoned or not
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post silent hill characters that are literally you

i'll start
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>>377436190
it's the only good SH game
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I bet Heather got so scared in Silent Hill 3 that she peed herself haha I would totally sniff her soiled panties as a joke haha
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>>377436930
nanomachines and stealth camo
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Silent Hill clones.
Do they exist? Are they good? Why Konami is such a piece of shit? Can I buy a gyaru from the yakusa?
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>>377438007
>Metal Gear and Silent Hill take place in the same universe
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>>377437868
hahaha
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>>377438273
Do you have any evidence to say they don't? Or that castlevania isn't in the same universe?
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>>377438273
dont touch that dial now we're just getting started
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>>377438561
>Big Boss was scared of vampires
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>>377439035
>Vamp literally was a vampire
>the sorrow could bring back ghosts from the dead
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>>377439067
>The Joy could ahegao at will
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>>377435590
I recently watched Jacob's Ladder. I think it was pretty good. That train station scene at the beginning and the one where they take Jacob for an "X-ray" were 10/10. I wish most of the move kept that kind of atmosphere.
Are there any other similar movies?
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>>377440023
did you notice the bergen st. sign in the metro station in the beginning?
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>>377436586
so good.
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>>377440023
Blue Velvet, Rosemary's Baby are 2 I would recommend.
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>>377440023
>>377440313
Oh yeah, Twin Peaks if you haven't seen it already.
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>>377435590
How did they make the look so good? Especially for 2001.
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>Playing through SH3 again
>enter an area
>12 doors on the map
>8 have broken locks
>2 can't even be interacted with
>one is locked from the other side
>one opens up to another area with 12 doors
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>play SH4
>enter hospital floor
>about 20 doors on the map
>each one works
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>>377438162
>Do they exist?
yeah... sortta.
Forbidden Siren's a child of SH1's director, but not my cup of tea.

Afraid Of Monsters:DC & Cry Of Fear, both free HL mods, are top spooky.
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>>377437868

reminds me of this
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>>377442578
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>>377436930

ded
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>>377436930
>where is all the people?

They turned into those creatures that you keep hitting in head with your pipe.
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>>377435590
Stop with the "Game quote abruptly cut off with game's name thread " shit. You're not clever, you're not original, you're incredibly cute, and you're certainly not doing the fanbase any favors spamming this shit on /v/ all the fucking time.
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>>377443750
What? This is not my picture. This thread is getting spooky.
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>>377443884
> you're incredibly cute
Thanks anon.
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>>377443884
Well I think you are cute too anon.
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>>377440251
I did, it was really cool how Silent hill 3 managed to create a similar atmosphere in the train station area.
>>377440313
>>377440427
Nice. I haven't watched any of those and am looking forward to it. Did they also influence the creation of silent hill?
Anyway, I'm glad I watched such a good movie because nowadays most "horror movies" are full of cheap overused jump scares.
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>>377445513
Yes, they were big influences. If I had to pinpoint any 1 biggest influence it would be Lynch movies though.
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Obligatory reminder that SH4 is shit and Eileen is the only redeeming part of it.
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>>377446508
Like the ghosts weren't scary, they were just annoying for the most part. I liked the idea behind the swords of obedience though, that is a cool mechanics to stop enemies from spawning, but just no implemented well.
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>>377446508
SH4 a shit.
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>>377440796
To this day I seriously think they made a pact with some devil to create such a good looking game, especially when you consider the limitations of the ps2. SH3's facial expressions are 10/10
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Why did he kill her?
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>>377449951
Because she didn't want to be a burden, and he couldn't watch her suffer anymore.
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>>377449951
What?
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>>377449951
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZXQ4LoQBbc
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>>377450887
whats the name of the song that plays when you are moving through the resort as it decays after that scene?
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>>377450957
This?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VPnkqLVJYA
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>>377451395
That's it, thank you.
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>>377436190
SH1 is the scariest of the series.
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>>377449425
People love to mention that the fog in SH1 was to optimize the game for a short draw distance so the PS1 could handle it, but the same technique was used in SH2 and SH3 to optimize it for the PS2 as well.

That's why it looks so good.
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>>377452164
I respectfully disagree with your opinion.
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>>377452342
I've heard about that. I think it was clever of them to use fog to cover the ps1/ps2 limitations, but the facial expressions in sh3 are godtier. Just look at that Andromeda abomination and those lazy ass facial expressions.
Team silent was truly talented and dedicated.
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>>377452342
The environments inside places look good too not just fog
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>>377452164
The only horror games I've played before SH1 were RE2 and 3 and holy fuck was my brain fucked inside out with all the surreal shit happening in SH. I was expecting hollywood'y shit like in RE and got rusty, foggy fuck knows what with scary as fuck music/ambient and story that I didn't even understand at the time. What a ride that was.
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>>377453743
Yeah and desu I don't even really remember any movies I saw at the time being anything like it either. It was truly original for me at that time. Most horror movies I would have seen at that point were slasher films.
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>>377452164
I feel 3 is the scariest.
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>>377436930
Somewhere else.
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>>377453743
>>377454152
IDK anon SH1 soundtrack is definitely spookier. And the sounds easily are up to half of why the games are so good. Just listen to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5s5s_30n_s
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>play sh2 and barely get frightened the entire time
>barely got past the prologue in sh3 and i'm already scared of random noises
Am I just going to have to get used to this? I haven't touched the game in months.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlkXS-KhHBo
KILLING A PERSON AIN'T NO BIG DEAL
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>>377454152
i think the room had the most oppressive atmosphere
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>>377454389
I was shitting brick all the time. It was very stressful playthrough but so enjoyable. Get used to it man, the game is pure terror if you dig the atmosphere.
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>>377454324
i think the monster sound is more important than the music itself
it's makes new sounds scary
the radio parasite aren't really useful in 3 though since monster are so loud
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>>377454450
But ya know what? It doesn't matter if your smart, dumb, ugly, pretty... it's all the same once yer dead.

And a corpse can't laugh.
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>SH thread
>no SH PC Guide + DL links
lets fix that:

SH1 NTSC DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!bVUCTJzD!PmnPw4S7fWGyvTjw9S0-RQdk7rRp2BQNuXJqRkZCZvk

SH2 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!rFcj1SIJ!47JH9M4OrzmQKuaiJ6IqUgmgz_SVNtk4LIYNSa-D-_8

SH2 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!bYcEnbhC!rYnhvcJiRC46T6yExS0Y61JHZ-5N3WxFvfZMI8xbyhE

SH3 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!2JNkgJ7b!nfPf5cIs6I5K-sdAs7RcnHvGA2hAvIGdpQuIoBhF3iE

SH3 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!GVVGRLpD!SyklVbuLIkc38ZYji5QL3sWHKtHt9-Bto700My8pH7c

SH4 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!Us1XTaII!cglH0dZOaH5yQEm4cnEh3eyUz4bIf6rACQqcVzkb4Hc

Mount the ISOs of 2 & 3, and then run their installers like always.
The SH1 is a PS1 rip that you gotta emulate.
The "sh2proxy" fix works as a no-cd crack as well, and is included in the pack.
If you use the NEW widescreen fixes mentioned in guide, the sh2proxy's EXE works as no-cd crack too.

In case you experience issues saving the game / not being able to edit the disp.ini, make sure the files aren't set to "Read Only", and run the game as Administrator.
If SH2 gets stuck in a black screen upon launch, close it and re-start it again.
You can now see fine emulator settings for SH1 in the guide. You may also try the newer PGXP emulator for wobble-free PS1 graphics.
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>>377453310
I agree. It does look good, especially for 2001.

>>377453450
Indoors interiors are much easier to use culling techniques that the player will never notice.
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>>377455073
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>Want to play SH games but too pussy to do it

I mean shit, SH1 is the only game I completed and even then I make small progress at a time.
If this is how I react with SH1 with its blocky graphics, how much can I handle with SH2 and the rest?
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>>377456413
SH2 isn't even scary. SH3 is intense and honestly, the monster design is much better than SH1's monster design, the fleshy creatures make the otherworld look like a genuine hell.
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>>377456413
It's gonna be really hard for you. If you can't handle it in the night time try playing during day. You will still be scared just not to the point of dropping it.
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Don't let Silent Hill die.
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>>377435590
So was this fake or not?

https://youtu.be/xLtc6PMTpkk
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>>377435590
The series stopped being scary when you realize if you can go full gun-ho for the rest of the game if you just melee enemy's for the first few hours.
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>>377458427
I had enough resources to kill everything but it was scary as fuck anyway. Some people just easily scared.
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>>377456413
SH2 isn't scary, is a depressive road trip to your own personal hell. It's one of the best games you will ever play in your life.
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>>377456585
>>377458734
>SH2 isn't scary
but it is
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>>377458734
>SH2 isn't scary
That's fucking subjective.
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>>377436353
Sorry, SH4 is.
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>>377456413
>and even then I make small progress at a time.
just like I did on my 1st playthrus all those years ago.

Embrace your immersion & tackle those horror classics!
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>>377458853
>>377458891
The apartment entrance was deeply scary, i give you that. But as soon i found the pistol, the fear disappeared. The rest of the game was just an atmospheric ride, especially the prison-mine part, which was spectacular, they could've reduced the hole jumping stuff a little bit, then it would be perfect.
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Did anyone else get SH4's bad ending on the first playthrough? I'm in no hurry to replay it for the good endings.
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>>377436930
Aren't there like three layers? Reality, fog pseudo reality and hell. People stay in real world but can wander into the fog world I guess.

And no I don't care what the movies or any game after 4 says, but it's how I interpreted it.
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>>377458427
Hardly, the atmosphere is still strong even when you do have an arsenal.
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>>377459462
the part with the elevator was the scariest thing about SH2
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>>377459928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d9G9vBpXnU
>PARKING LOT!
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>>377459831
nope, got "gOOD-''
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>>377445126

>Play game, that only resembles a piece of meat on a wooden door
>See that image, it all clicks into place

God damn, i never noticed this before.
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>>377459834
You can interpret it in any way you want, because it was never clearly explained anyway and there aren't any concrete proofs to prove which is one is correct.
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>>377459834
Depends on who you ask. Folk like TP greatly leaned on the opinion that it was reality being rewritten by the town's power, which was connected to Alessa's mind in SH1 and parts of SH3 (where it's both parts of what remain of her, Heather's mind, and even Claudia's). Granted, they never said no to the idea of layers, just that it was most certainly NOT parallel dimensions.
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>>377464118
I always saw it as the real world, but you needed some kind of taint for it to be happening. Not like emotional baggage in SH2, but more like Call of Cthulu type stuff, simply being around it could cause it to happen. As you were affected by the taint it would change what layer you were on, which is easiest to see in 1-3. Being directly near the seal of samael would push you down into the nightmare level, but anything who was susceptible to the taint would see what was there. As for Silent Hill 2 this was more that the people on the different layers could still interact depending on where they were, and would see the other's layer affecting their own from being near one another. Laura for instance is on your layer, and is seeing you guys, but not monsters. Eddie is close enough to your layer as well, but doesn't see Pyramid head, and most likely the dead bodies you see are different looking than the ones he actually killed.

Maybe layer isn't the best word, I always kinda thought of it like a frequency people resonated at.

Regardless, it all happens in the real world, not other dimensions.
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>>377464464
Nah, I think layers work fine. It's not the same exact thing as dimensions where you're leaving the world for another, but merely going into a different level of it, kind of like the spectral realm in Soul Reaver. Some things look the same there, but others are twisted and warped, depending on who is influencing it the most.
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>>377437697
>grill
>raised by single father
>poor as fuck
>had the same hair as heather when I was 17
>probably have mental issues
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Which one of the first 4 SH games have the best main song, and why is it SH3?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZmMD84XpCs
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>>377466162
London?

post feet
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>>377466692
Sorry, but I greatly dislike SH's vocal songs.
Theme Of Laura & Promise will forever be the rulers of SH OSTs, though as a game-intro, I'm very keen of SH1's OP song.
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>>377466802
I'm actually borderline schizo with extreme social anxiety, plus I'm a fascist
I wouldn't want to be around me
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>>377467086
ask me how I know you're fat and/or biologically a man
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Never played Silent Hill besides 3 briefly. Wasn't my thing, anyways, how does the town work? If you enter it, are you stuck there? I don't understand.
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lads, I'm feeling real down tonight...

give me one good reason not to go full In Water
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>>377467648
>Never played Silent Hill besides 3 briefly.
Then don't ask questions, and play the games.
Grab the games from >>377455073 , play in release order, and stay offline until you've beaten them all. Preferably multiple times.

Don't spoil the greatness that is original Silent Hill games for you!
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>>377467648
in both SH1 and SH2, the main character is in Silent Hill 2 to find someone, so they don't want to leave.

in SH3 your main objective is first to get to your dad and then after you find him, your objective becomes vengeance
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>>377467795
Anon, I'm not interested in playing em. I don't enjoy horror games.
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Reminder that DS is SH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bPQdbGyUY
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>>377467245
Neither of those but if it makes you feel better my feet are disgusting. Never wear shoes outside.
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>>377467945
>Anon, I'm not interested in playing em
you wouldn't be talking about them if they didn't catch your interest. Which is not surprising at all.

>I don't enjoy horror games.
That's what people say, until they play Silent Hill. And then SH2. And all the sudden, they got 100 hours put to all of them.

Seriously, SH is a great entryway to GOOD horror vidya. The total antithesis of the scripted jumpscare trash we got today.
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>>377436930

at the pachinko parlor
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>>377436353
you're not wrong
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>>377436353
>tfw I look like a boyish heather

I should cosplay her someday
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>>377440023
First half of Lost Highway
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>tfw finally get a SH thread but it derails into a circumcision argument
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>>377456413
I was in exactly the same situation as you, SH1 was my first ever horror game and scared the shit out of me, but SH2 and 3 didn't scare me as much. If anything the blocky, low res and lack of z-buffering actually make the game scarier because sometimes you can't tell what exactly you're looking at, letting your imagination fill in the gaps.
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>>377469490
Would you believe it's not the first time this has happened?
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>>377459831
saved the room but not the girl. i didn't know you could heal her with holy candles
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2>1=3>4>SM>Origins>Aids>>>>>>>>DP>HC
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>>377435590
Where'd he get the pizza from?
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>>377436930
There certainly are still people living in the time given how you can read recently written newspapers, journals, and what not.
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>>377435590
Where the fuck did eddie manage to get food from if he's in the fogworld? Does he re-appear in normal Silent Hill only when James is away?
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>>377471516
It's part of Eddie's Silent Hill punishment. He's re-experiencing the trauma of a crappy pizza he ate.
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i want silent hill pizza too
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>>377471839
Why couldn't it have just been in the fucking fridge at the place? It's not like his interpretation of the world is the same as James where everything is either a vagina or covered in rust.
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>>377471839
The whole idea is that, because the experience of the town is personal for every person, Eddie believes he can find pizza in a town like Silent Hill, so he does.
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>>377471839
I think their versions of the world merge when characters interact with eachother.
Kinda like how Angela brings fire and rape monsters. Maybe Eddie's world has pizza.
That, or, since Laura's silent hill is pretty normal, maybe he got it from hers?
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>>377471890
small town pizza is truly the best.
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>>377472104
This. Chain places are always garbage. Some may be less so than others, but they'll never truly compare to local joints.
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>>377471968
Can he imagine his way out of this mess?
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>>377472210
No. He still was "summoned" to Silent Hill to unfuck himself up from the idea that he needs to kill anyone who insults him (which, in the end, he doesn't)
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>>377471968
but SH1 is influenced by the mind of Alessa.

In this picture you can see why monsters are dogs and morrowind pterodactyls
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>>377472337
Always had to wonder if the town was trying to "help" or not. Seemed more like a douche magnet for crazy and insane people than anything. The idea of being "summoned" just being a last shred of hope that maybe something out there wanted to help their sorry asses.
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>>377472475
I'd say a better expression for it would be that the town is testing them. If they manage to overcome all the psychological shit it throws at them, then they are fit for a second chance. Otherwise, the town takes them one way or another.
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>>377472646
But the town isn't alive, it has no will of its own to speak of.
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>>377472646
James wasnt even necessarily a bad person.
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>>377471839
>fogworld
Mistake #1: there's no "fog world" etc.
It's all ONE world, this one, seen through a personal mind-fuck 4D Photoshop filters. Either your own, someone else's, or through a hybrid.
Eddie wasn't looking for punishment, but for revenge.
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>>377472816
He kind of was, just not irredeemable. He did a bad thing, and partially for a selfish reason (which goes full blown depending on which ending you get). Of course, none of them were. Eddie wasn't hurting real people, just figments. And Angela was just a victim of abuse, nothing was her fault.
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>>377438742
What is this picture?
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And they say /pol/ doesn't ruin every single board it touches.
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>>377474749
The playing in the rain scene from MGS V but with Norman Reedus and the broad who keeps wasting you in P.T.
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>>377475515
>poster is mocked for going on a crusade out of nowhere to defend circumcision all because he doesn't know the definition of mutilation
>during this tirade he is ridiculed for rejecting scholarly sources, common logic and basic semantics almost immediately losing sight of the original topic in his efforts to belittle the opposition
>surely this is all /pol/'s fault though
What did he mean by this?
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>>377475847
No, sure. Please, keep shitposting after all of this has finally settled down.
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>>377475927
>he says as he himself continues to shitpost
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>>377472821
I always assumed the fog world was Silent Hill's "neutral" state that everyone saw, since Harry, James and Heather all saw it, and the "personal hell" filter manifested in the Otherworld they saw.
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>>377475579
howd they pull normans model from p.t if it never relaase on p.c?
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>>377476054
It's not shitposting to tell people to stop shitposting.
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>>377476259
>he says as he perpetuates the shitposting even further
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>>377476336
>he says as he replies to bait
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>>377476259
>synopsizing earlier events is shitposing
>drawing further attention to shitposting is not
noice one dude you got em
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>>377476336
It isn't. But please, keep doing this shit because you guys can't just get back on fucking topic like everyone else.

>>377476398
Fuck off.
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>>377476591
It is shitposting when you're responding to someone and dragging up the issues again instead of just ignoring them. So yea, what I'm doing is not shitposting, I'm just telling you to fuck off.
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>>377476636
>>377476724
>it's okay when I post dumb shit that relates in no way to the thread
>especially when i do it to respond to other people also posting dumb shit unrelated to the thread
>but only when I do it

t.(you), the shitpost king
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>>377452342
this pic is really interesting, would love to play through the game yet another time but in fulbright and without fog to see all the littles details I missed
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>>377476828
Not even remotely what I said. I just said to fuck off. Yet your dumbass is deadset on just carrying on the shit after it had finally stopped. You're the one shitposting, you fuck off, you fucking idiot.
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>>377436930
there are 3 layers to Silent Hill:

1. The actual Silent Hill

any average fuck can walk into the town of modern Silent Hill and see people going through their daily life and stuff, no bullshit at all, no strange happenings, literally just a normal town.

2. In-game Silent Hill

Depends on the source, but some people get drawn or attracted to Silent Hill in some way, probably through the will of some old-god or some shit that acts as some kind of dark curse on the town itself. What actually happens in the town in this state varies because the lore is fucked, but people stuck in this version usually feel extreme guilt about something and that's what draw them to the town in the first place, and depending on how they react to being reminded of the stuff they did they may be able to leave. Normally foggy and hard to navigate because it looks like a magnitude 9 earthquake hit and created a bunch of chasms. keep in mind this is an alternate Silent Hill and the actual town is still real and doing just fine.

3. Shadow world

This is what happens when the Town is sick of your shit, and decides to just throw physical manifestations of your guilt at you because this is a video game and monsters needs to happen. there's nothing that really seperates this layer from the one above it except the spoops are maximized and you usually need something inside wherever you are but the Town won't give it to you easy.
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>>377476992
>in peace there's nothing so becomes a man

- Anon on his continued efforts to perpetuate shitposting in a Silent Hill thread
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>>377466162
do you draw by any chance?
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>>377477187
Nigger, you're the only shitposting because someone told you to fuck off and not continue the drama after it had settled down. Are you fucking autistic or something? You're the one perpetuating the shit with this false accusation shit. I said to not drum the shit up again, nothing else. Now fuck off.
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That Love Lost ending in SM. Was not prepared for a feel trip.
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>>377477353
>>377477187
Shut the fuck up you're both pellet-fed retards.

POST YOUR FAVORITE
>silent hill game
>song from the soundtracks
>location in any game

Link related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx1XJycgU4I
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>>377476219
The Fox engine tools can open any model from the engine. By extracting P.T. from the PS4 hdd, modders were able to load the models in the tool and MGSV itself.
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>>377478736
Now if only they could just get PT onto PC. Or if Konami could be assed to just put it up again and just nix the fucking Silent Hill promo from it.
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>>377478808
wouldnt all you need is a ps4 with p.t on it?
i have just the ps4 for you if you want to do that :o) for the low low price of 20000 shekels
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>>377478891
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>>377478941
>20000 shekels
fuck off kike we already finished talking about your scams and ploys earlier
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>>377478973
>not wanting to get inside Heather's ass
Queer.
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>>377478941
There's an exploit to download PT again you know.
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>>377471497

1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > AIDS > the rest
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>>377435590
Huh, I just realised that the Pizza is a metaphor for Eddie becoming used to killing people.
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>>377479069

>Not Eileen's ass

Step it up, my dude.
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>>377436930

Irrelevant, the whole this is intentionally surreal. You're supposed to be asking where the real people as a sort of a red herring to get pulled into the world. But you are never getting an answer to that question because it doesn't fucking matter.

If you look at Team Silent's trend from 1 to 4, you can see them pulling away from even addressing the real world anymore. I guess this is primarily why SH4 was not supposed to be a Silent Hill game in the first place. People were getting too focused on the city and the "lore" (give a me a fucking break, the whole cult lore thing is uninteresting and in the case of SH1, cheap and in very poor taste), but they wanted to go full abstract.

Then when the franchise exchanged hands, things became so bad I refused to play any of those games. I don't think they're relevant in any way.
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>>377479427
No. Silent Hill 4 was ALWAYS a Silent Hill game. It was just meant to be a spinoff showing the effects of the cult's power outside of the town. You'll notice only a very small part of the game takes place in Silent Hill.
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>>377479419
Heather's is just as good.
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>>377479427
>cult
>uninteresting
>cheap
>in poor taste
It must suck having taste this shit.
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>>377479619

I suppose so.
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>>377480106
It's a good butt. Maybe nothing big and heavenly soft looking, but still a nice butt regardless.
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>>377464464

You're overthinking it. Angela and Eddie for example, I always thought people overthink these characters. Sure, they're "real people" and they see their own version of Silent Hill, blah, blah - this doesn't matter. What matters are their characters in the context of the story.

Eddie appears to be a bully and Angela appears to be the victim. But as you progress through the game, you realize Eddie was bullied and quite the victim after all. And Angela is hardly just a victim, having killed her father. These two relate quite obviously to James - who is both a victim and a bully. Realize where the two of their character arcs end and how it correlates with James finally reconciling what he did and you'll understand all you really need about these two characters.

In short, no they're not there to bring more insight into the Silent Hill lore/backstory, but more insight into James. As always, characters matter in Silent Hill, not the obsessive nerd lore theories.
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What did they mean by this?
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Can you children please leave already?
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>>377480438
I don't understand
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>>377480619

The doors to the Silent Hill museum place are the exact same as doors found in a random part in the prison area, even though you went down three random holes to get to the prison.
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>>377480796

I don't think they meant much to it except to accentuate the disorientation and otherworldness of the whole historical society portion. Before that, the game is still putting up a charade (so to say) of Silent Hill and everything happening in it being a part of the real world. When you go down that pit though, all bets are finally off, the game wants you to stop focusing on the strangeness of the situation and to just embrace it. James is just diving deeper into his own mind.

Or they just reused the texture because just cuz.
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>tfw no slimy nurse gf
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>>377481362
Looks more like a faceless Majin in that than the bubblehead.
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>>377481362

>tfw no sequel to that silent Hill doujin with the thick nurse
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>>377459248
you gave me a laugh.
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>>377479427
>People were getting too focused on the city and the "lore"

I didn't play more than half an hour of 4 but looking outside of the windows was comfy as shit
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>>377467779
you might be in a timeline where we get a decent SH sequel.
odds are you're better off keeping to your schedule though.
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>>377481163

In a series where you have the town imploding on itself or being warped into a hellish nightmare, I always found the Prison/Labyrinth to be the most interesting areas in all of Silent Hill (And this is coming from a SH1fag) because of how mysterious and inexplicable the whole section, like ending up at the docks near Toluca lake despite falling down eight holes.
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>>377435590
if you want to see the best silent hill (i.e. the Orpheus myth reincarnation), go see Tarkovsky's Solaris.
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Huh, guess responding to shitposting with more shitposting is actually still shitposting. The more you know.
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>>377482464
read "best silent hill 2 movie adaptation"
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>>377482416

It's pretty effective when you play for the first time and still don't really understand what's going on. When you look at it from a retrospective, it's pretty basic - it's just fucking nowhere, you bear through it and you emerge at the resort where it all started.

But the first time, yeah, I had no idea what the hell is happening or where I'm going to end up. Before that, it's a sort of journey through Silent Hill, you have that map and everything. All of a sudden though, not even the map can help you.
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>>377449425
I've actually had this same thought, what if it's true?

Should we not support these games anymore?
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>>377438162
Lone survivor
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>>377480349
That's only SH2. Harry, Heather and Henry have no guilt or traumas, they're experiencing the hell of other people.
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>>377480438
>>377480796
Historical society was built on the prison's ruins.
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>>377483393

I wouldn't know about SH3, I can't pretend I really understand that game through and through. I only have a vague understanding of it.
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HOW CAN YOU JUST SIT THERE AND EAT PIZZA?
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>>377483393
Well in 3's case, it's mixed between Heather's own teenage fears (primarily childbirth) and Alessa's past-life torture.
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>>377483981
SH3 is the biggest mindfuck in the series. The otherworld appears outside of Silent Hill, God looks like Alessa instead of Samael, the creatures don't really have much of a symbolism, Leonard Wolf was living in the otherworld, etc. Overall it's the craziest one, the way Silent Hill should be, which is probably why it's my favorite one, it makes the otherworld feel alive instead of something personal.
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>>377482763

Silent Hill 2 just had a lot of these weird moments that would screw with your head.
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>start a decent SH thread
>TwinPerfect faggots show up and ruin it
>circumcision fags stomp the remains
I hate all of you.
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BASED MODS
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>>377484754
maybe you should try discussing a better survival horror game like resident evil, and i don't mean that FPS trash RE7, or action shootan RE4.
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>>377484641
>that part in the prison where you go into one of the cells and the door locks
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>>377456413
SH1 is a different kind of horror from 2. 1 is more like a traditional slasher flick, but 2 is like a surreal Japanese Horror. 2 feels like a bad dream, but is kind of light on the high-pressure moments.
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>>377484829
RE4 is genuinely frightening the first time you play it.
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>>377484820
>BASED
It took them 4 fucking hours, 2/3rds of the thread already got eaten up by that bullshit.
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>>377484919
video games aren't scary, they aren't real. RE4 is a good shootan gaem but a terrible RE game.

i actually don't hate silent hill i just like pissing in the ocean of piss
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>>377485032
They did at least something. Usually they don't do shit about shitposters. You know that yourself.
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>>377485036
It's called immersion, buddy.
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>>377484837

>The part where you're locked in a room full of cockroaches trying to haphazardly guess the keypad password
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>>377484919
literally never heard anyone describe RE4 as scary
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>>377484393
Actually it's implied the SH3's otherworld is Claudia's creation. See pic >>377463789

The Mandarin/Closer are basically the otherworld's own creation, they just exist for the sake existing, the only one that could be Alessa leftover would be the dogs.
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>>377468109
I'd walk barefoot with you
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Did the games after SH4 do anything right?
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>>377485682
no
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>>377485389
Play it with a fresh save, after 5+ years away. It's almost as good as the first time.
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>>377485682
Homecoming's transition to the otherworld is better than SH3's transition. That's about it, the rest is subpar. Look at your pic for example, the idea is decent but the jacket, the leather straps and boots are completely unnecessary and look stupid.
Also isn't this the monster that is implied to be James and Mary?
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>>377485930

Yeah in the xbox version killing it for the first time unlocks the "shades of james" achievement
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>>377485682
I liked the concept of Downpour's story but it was executed extremely poorly. All we really needed was the whole "Main character murdered his child's killer" story to be fleshed out and made more interesting. The B story with the angry lady and evil prison guard was completely unnecessary and dumb.
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>>377485682
Homecoming had great enemy designs and the transition to the Otherworld was neat - even if they did rip it directly from the movie.

Downpour has a good story and some fantastic side content.
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>>377486104
>the angry lady
She's the daughter of the good prison guard.
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>>377486167
plus alex is a qt
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>>377486104
The game originally had the MC and the cop girl playable together.
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>>377483142
Also probably Claire.
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>>377484854
>traditional slasher flick
What. It has so much surreal shit going on you can't just say that.
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>>377486167
>Downpour has a good story and some fantastic side content
The endings that completely contradict each other and empty copy pasted environments. No thx.
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>>377486407
I think both are handsome.
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>>377486873
>durr, a story isn't good if it has endings I don't like
It was better than Homecoming's, which was just a lame version of SH2.
>empty copy pasted environments
Like what?
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>>377486873
The comic about Anne shows the good ending to be canon. The other endings are just for fun.
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idk murphy has an odd looking face
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>>377486962
I might get flamed but this video actually summs it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y9hNKe93u0
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>mfw my name is eddie
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>>377487157
>TwinPerfect
Yeah, get fucked.
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>>377486962
Downpour's story is pretty B-movie tier.

And the entire open world Silent Hill consists of reused assets over and over. It's the same door, same table and same couch repeated over and over for miles.
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>>377487237
>some places are similar (probably apartments, right?)
>"WOOOWW, THIS WHOLE GAME IS COPY PASTE"
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>>377487160
>mfw my name is Edward, I was bullied everyday back when I was a kid

I'm not fat though
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>>377487189
Figures. Glad you had fun with the game but I think it's atrocious. Let's stop at that.
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>>377487157

tp fags go away
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>>377487352
Did you not bully aswell? Everyone bullied everyone pretty much,im the only Edward that matters here btw.
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>>377487123
>mfw was excited when the Downpour reveal trailer came out because i thought it was going to be purely about the Silent Hill mythos and the native Americans who considered the region sacred because the generic enemy looked like they had native American face paint and Murphy looked like he had some native ancestry

What a blunder the actual Downpour was. But i still think Murphy has some native in him.
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>>377487189
>>377487423
What's wrong with Twin Perfect?
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>>377487613
Their opinion does not reflect his.
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>>377487613

He's gonna have a hard time playing football with whats left of that knee!
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>>377487574
>be what you hate
no fucking thanks
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>>377487612
Most people thought Murphy was going to be a child molester from the early trailers.
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>>377487613
They have a stick up their asses about the entire series. Also, you shouldn't default to pulling up a video any time someone questions your opinion.
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>>377487959
What if my opinion matches theirs and I can't be arsed to write up an article every time? I'm not wasting half an hour on my post to get something like "nah your opinion is wrong get fucked" in return.
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>>377466965
Really? I absolutely love the vocal songs
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>>377487613
In the Silent Hill forums 80% of the users consider Silent Hill to be "face your guilt with symbolism the town". TwinPerfect created that documentary to explain that Silent Hill is actually about occultism and the energy is neither good or bad, it's something beyond human comprehension and they all got butthurt.
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>>377488210
Megabearsfan used to write some pretty cool articles about SH and his opinion aligns with TP:
http://www.megabearsfan.net/post/2012/02/22/The-Otherworld-of-Silent-Hill-is-NOT-an-other-world-its-OURS.aspx
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>>377488160
This one makes my skin crawl every single time I hear it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdXCsXcs6nA
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Remider that SH2fags ruined the series. It's how we got Tomm.
>"Muh guilt!"
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>>377488394

But SH4 was before Tomm.
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Why are heathers eyes so fucked up? How do I get eyes that extreme ?
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>>377488524
I think SH2 was the best of the original 4. I also believed that it was only good because there was nothing else like it. It was a good because it was a unique idea. That doesn't mean that it should be done over and over again.
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>>377484919
It's scary when you first see the dude with the claws in the room in the castle, then when you go to that military base lab thing and you just hear that fucking thing breathing
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>>377488143
>matches theirs
Then you're a parrot.
>an article
No one asked for that shit. It's not my fault you can't write concisely.
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>>377488754
Regenerators are the worst shit. I nearly pissed myself when I first saw one lunge from the ground.
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>>377488797
Not him, but every single game after 4 was ass. Hell, I didn't even like 4 all that much. Go on, refute me. It's an argument that was short and concise.
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>>377488797
Whatever you say my dude.
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>>377484919
The only "frightening" parts were the Regenerators
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>>377488885
>games have flaws
>"durr, they're ass. Team Silent 4 lyfe"
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>>377484919
Not really, at least not in comparison to SH. Back in high school, me and a friend were playing RE4 when a chick just stopped by. She said it looked pretty scary. She had a PS2, so I tossed her my copy of Silent Hill 2.

She literally couldn't bring herself to play. She didn't even get to the Apartment Building.

RE has always kind of been a mix between action and "haunted house" spooky. SH has always been a series that makes you afraid of sleeping by yourself in an empty house.
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>>377488937
>IT boss
>the sewers/hive
>first time through the village
>hedge maze
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>>377488976
Point out where I said anything with the word "flaws," or anything about Team Silent.

Silent Hill 1 was great
Silent Hill 2 was great
Silent Hill 3 was ok.
Silent Hill 4 was barely acceptable.
Every other Silent Hill has been total ass.
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>>377489095
>females are an accurate gauge of horror
Oookay.
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>>377489173
Be more specific. You can't just say "they were ass".
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>>377489189
There was legitimate nothing scary about RE4. If you find that game scary, I'm sure you also found House of the Dead scary, too.

>>377489267
I would, but I don't want to write an article, so I'm keeping it concise.
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>>377489189
>Oookay.
Only normalfags answer like this. Leave.
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This thing reminds me of SH.
http://www.alessandrobavari.com/en/works/video/metachaos.php
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>>377472369
>that hammer
really made enemies irrelevant after a certain point in the game
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I think of Silent Hill vaguely adhering to the same rules as Palaces in Persona 5.

What a character sees is a strong twisted perception that reflects psyche of those who currently inhabit the town. It can be your own cognition, or someone else's twisted perception is so strong that it overflows to what other people see.

The less you define the town's rules, the better.
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>>377489310
>I have no argument
Fuck off, kiddo.
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>>377490146
My argument is that the games are ass. That's an argument. I've offered no supporting evidence to that argument because I was told to keep things concise.

Can't get more concise than: "They're ass."
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>>377490352
You're not clever.
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>>377487160
DOUBLE D
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>>377477078
>This is what happens when the Town is sick of your shit,

I love this description, thank you for putting a smile on my face.
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>>377488575
Do not sleep
At all
Ever
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>>377478808
there is some leftover debug code for the editor in PT files. that makes me so angry to this day.
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>>377479427
I just interpreted it as a cult fucking with some dark shit nobody should fuck with and ultimately turning Silent Hill into an eldritch anomaly that draws broken people in through some malevolent interest in making these people confront everything that's wrong with them. Hell it might even be benevolent but in the worst kind of way. "Look at yourself. Fix it or die."
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>>377436353
what kept you vic
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>>377435590
Masterpieces:
Silent Hill 2, Shattered Memories

Almost perfect entries: SH1, SH0

Heavily flawed games: Room, SH3, HC

Pure shit: downpoor
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>>377438742
>dat flying fetus
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>>377497602
>Heavily flawed games: SH3

How to invalidate your opinion in 3 seconds.
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>>377497602
>putting non-TS games even the same category as the originals
disgusting and wrong
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>>377454152
3 is literally "hey do you feel like you might be raped now?" the game.

that's a pretty scary feel
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>>377500551
>>377500053
>triggered waifufags
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>>377489173
Make Silent Hill 3 great and I'll agree with you.
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>>377497602
>Shattered memories is a masterpiece

>0 is almost perfect

>SH3 is heavily flawed

>HC is anywhere but pure shit

>Downpour isn't heavily flawed
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I liked Homecoming, didn't find anything particularly bad with it while playing it, was actually surprised when I found out lots of people disliked the game.

Yes, I played and loved the first 4 way before that
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>>377501820
why did you like it?
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>>377501673
>Shattered memories is a masterpiece
Indeed.

>0 is almost perfect
This game is desperately needs Ito and his art in-game. Everything else is perfect.

>SH3 is heavily flawed
Terrible protagonist, laughable plot, week enemy design, South Silent Hill.

>HC is anywhere but pure shit
Gorgeous OST and bossfights, hit'n'miss enemy design, viable plot.


>Downpour isn't heavily flawed
There is zero good things in donper. Absolute piece of polish shit.
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>>377502139
*weak
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>>377502139
>lol ur not a soldier ur just crazy
>viable plot
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>>377501820
Its buggy as shit (though if you're lucky you can avoid them), the story was god awful, and all the weapons are beaten by the ceremonial dagger.

I don't hate the game, the only Silent Hill game I've given below an average rating too is Book of Memories, but I won't make excuses for it.
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>>377502139
i'm curious why you think heather is a terrible protagonist, why the plot is laughable, and why the enemy design is bad (which is objectively wrong).

>all that shit about HC
l m a o
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>>377450375
Actually:
because he didn't want her as a burden and he couldn't watch her suffer anymore.

Bonus: she is inside the trunk of his car right at the start.
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>>377455073
>still pretending like Silent Hill 2 runs on PC's

It doesn't.
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>>377500948
i don't want some teenager as a wife, you faggot.
Heather was actually a great protagonist. Felt real, just like James. And the other characters were great too.

Unless of course you played the "HD" port turd.
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>>377436963

HOW ABOUT I FUCK YOUR MUM INTO THE GROUND?
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>>377502810
>HD
I will never not be upset.
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>>377455073
>Go to bed
>wake up 9 hours later
>the thread is still up
I love you, SH nerds!
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holy shit this thread is still up
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>>377502674
just did a complete playthrough using this guide and after a little bit of tweaking it worked flawlessly. Dont know what you're talking about
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>>377503391
Did you play it originally on ps2 to know if it had any differences? I want to try that but I don't want to waste my time if even after I get it to work, the game is not worth it compared to playing it on ps2
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>>377502630
>Bonus: she is inside the trunk of his car right at the start.

no she's not dumbass
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>>377503505
Yes I played PS2 version, PS2 emulated version, got the OG Xbox version.

You might have to tweak it up a little bit using google to remove glitches or some things. Some people can get it working fine without doing so though

Only things I noticed where:
-faster load times
-you can save anywhere anytime (though that's not something I'm fond of)
-If you want to use a controller you have to get xpadder and if you're not used to it it can take around an hour to figure out and set up

If you don't enjoy figuring out PC gaming complications like I do you might as well just play console version
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SILENT HILLS = SILENT HILL5

RIP
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>>377503645
There's a tweet somewhere where Ito or some dev confirms the corpse is sitting in the back of the car.
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>>377503889
game looked nothing like silent hill anyway
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>>377503889
MGSV = Venom
SILENT HILLS = 5
DEATH STRANDING = SILENT HILLS
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>>377503956
Death Stranding is world-wide Silent Hill
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>>377435590
any modern games with silent hill vibes nowadays? Exploration/puzzles/shit gets rusty and weird, all doors are locked)? not necessarily horror games
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>>377503391
I know what I am talking about.

I have tried it on Windows 7, 8 and 10 machines.

You fix the sound looping bug the graphics bug occurs, you fix the graphics but the save bug occurs, you keep this up until finally the game doesn't launch at all.
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>>377504015
what do you mean?
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>>377504070
Silent hill only "happens" in silent hill. Death Stranding will be a global nightmare world.
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>>377437757
Excuse me kid?
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>>377504168
>tfw got it in the mail yesterday
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>>377502630
So her dead corpse has been flopping around in his trunk for like 4 years?
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>>377504116
silent hill 3 and homecoming have otherworld places not in silent hill
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>>377504365
prepare yourself some some good 3 hours of gameplay
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>>377504450
HC isn't canon

otherwise I agree
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>>377504382
He killed her shortly before the game events. Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>377504507
I played it before

been a while though
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>>377504382
he killed mary a few days before going to silent hill
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Why does everyone hate homecoming? It has riveting combat and characters.
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>>377504062
I don't want to be this guy but it worked fine for me

Although it sure as hell has it's share of complications
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>>377504621
herd mentality/inability to make own opinions on something
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>>377504621
If you liked HC I don't think anyone here can convince you otherwise

you are beyond what reason can do
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>>377502630
She's not in the trunk. When was the last time you played SH2? You can open the trunk at the start to get some supplies.
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>>377504687
see >>377504748 prove my point
>anyone here
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>>377504802
>You can open the trunk at the start to get some supplies.
... no you can't. you can open the driver's door to get the map and that's it.
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>>377504621
Irrational hate toward non-japanese Silent Hill.
I mean they even hate Yamaoka music and Mary's vocal, lol. It's ridiculous.
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>>377504802
while I don't think she's in the trunk either, your point is invalid, while playing the game you see what jame's twisted mind wants to see
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>>377504621
it's a good 7/10 game, not bad at all
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Reminder that half of this thread talks about circumcision
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>>377504621
>riveting combat
You can stunlock every enemy with the first weapon.

>characters
Like who? Your asshole family and the random black guy?
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As a fan of 1-4 who wants more SH, is DP endurable?
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>>377505062
play homecoming and don't force your opinions based on others'. I never played downpour
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>>377504621
The characters are shallow and the combat becomes a chore after the first 30 minutes. The storyline is freaking awful too.
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I'm still mad about this.
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>>377504621
>retarded twist
>forced moral choices
>retarded endings
>just took shit from the movie
>bad monster designs
I didn't like it, it wasn't scary and the combat wasn't good,
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>>377505275
>recolored James model
Lazy bastards.
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>people saying anything good about honocumming
Some copies of the game even shipped with a bug that makes scarlett unbeatable.
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>>377504621
>playing silent Hill for the combat
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>>377505234
I tried HC I just don't like it, can you believe that? Jesus
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In gaming magazines at the time (god I miss those days) this was a prominent picture used while talking about the game, but I remembered while playing it back then she couldn't wear shorts, and all the unlockables were shirts or the sailor moon costume, did I miss something? Is there any mod for this?

Yeah, I liked and still love short shorts, That was in 2004. Damn I'm old
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>>377436587
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>>377455073
So, pasta-kun, I have a question
In that SH2 backup torrent with 3 CDs ISOs there're also NoCd and proxy files

If I use the modern compatibility patch, widescreenfix and fog fix, do I need to apply either the rpoxy or nocd crack?

I can't get SH2 to work properly.
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>anything after 4
>good
gotta love good old contrarian /v/ next you'll be telling me the hd collection isn't that bad and it totally wasn't cheap cashgrab by konami
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>mfw people praise this game as a masterpiece when it has this level of writing and voice acting
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>>377505694
>Origins
>SM
>bad
Keep sucking on the TP's dicks.
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>>377505694
the hd collection is pure garbage, homecoming is not a great game but it's not garbage
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>>377505750
Shattered memories isn't that bad origins fucking sucks
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>>377505718
>one example
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>>377505694
my guess is you didn't even try the hd collection to see if it was trash or not so you can't comment on it. don't
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>>377505831
>origins fucking sucks
No it's not.
Sure it's not as good as SH1-3 but it miles above 4.
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anyone else got silent hill vibes from resident evil biohazard? I never played any resident evil games before this one, but I played all the old school Silent hills
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>>377505956
>SH3
>good
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Origins is trash and anyone who says otherwise deserves the rope

I have it on PSP
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>>377506087
>best SH game
>not good
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>>377506127
>best SH game
>not SH1
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>>377505956
>miles above 4
>mfw
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>>377506112
Explain how it's trash without memes like "it rapes muh lore", "it has PH rehash!"
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>>377505509
BRRRAAAAPPPPP
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>>377505956
>>377506127
4 is the scariest and most original/unique game in the series with the best soundtrack after 3 and the best story after 2. Origins has a fucking shit story, terrible art direction, and is just a total retread of SH1 and SH3 but worst in every regard. You also have shit taste thinking SH3 is the best one, it's a great game but easily worst than 1 and 2 and even worse than 4 in some ways.
>>377506216
Awful story, awful UI design, atrocious combat/weapon system, terrible level design, rehashed areas and monsters without adding anything new of value, and It rapes the lore (this is a completely valid criticism as a sequel in a series should follow that series story correctly)
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>>377506216
>development hell
>weapons break system
>rapes muh lore
>PH rehash, means the devs no shit all about PH
>monster design sucks
>empty environments
>animations are low tier

this from the top of my head
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>>377506216
those are good reasons to dislike it period

They don't become invalid just because you said so
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>>377506392
>>377506369

>"it rapes muh lore"
Lore is raped in each sequel. SH2 have entirely new town mechanic compared to SH1, for example.

>it has PH rehash!
Nothing is compared to SH3 rehash. This game is literally use 50% of SH2 models/textures/locations.
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>>377485323
I shat my pants
Not even joking
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>>377506369
>Awful story
It's not if you take it into the context of Trevis's story which has more depth than any SH game since SH2. The whole prequel stuff is unnecessary which I agree, but it's clearly was done for marketing purposes.
>awful UI design
How? It's functional in real time and the same as other SH games on pause screen
>atrocious combat/weapon system
Again, how?
All you do is spout buzzwords that also apply to other games in the series.

Also, you like the abortion of a game that SH4 was so I'm not even sure why I bother giving a (You)

>>377506392
>Another TP autist who thinks that PH's image is exclusive to James
>Not to mention the fact that its design actually makes sense for Travis's backstory

https://youtu.be/yZnrEogAKvY
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>>377506392
>>monster design sucks

>Two-backs and calibans suck
Nah, fuck off, Origins had great monsters design if anything
The only shitty design is that game was the final boss.
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>>377506520
SH3 has indeed some rehash aspects, but it also brings new mechanics that are interesting, doesn't stray from the lore, is actually scary and has great atmosphere.

Lore isn't raped in 1-3. Just proves you know fuck all.
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>>377506520
You are a complete and utter retard. NOTHING in SH2 contradicts SH1 unlike SH:Origins, in fact SH2 and SH1 operate under the same rules, SH2 is just running on the aftereffects of Alessa's magic and the town is projecting the consciousness of other people instead of Alessa.
>SH3 reuses assets
Notice how I said it was the worst of the original 4 but still, reusing buildings is nowhere near comparable to shamelessly rehashing a major iconic monster. 3 also actually brought a lot of good new things unlike Origins. I don't know why I'm even bothering to speak to someone who autistically defends such an awful game that completely misses the point of it's predecessors. At least Shattered Memories is a unique game in it's own right, giving it some value. Origins just rehashes the good SH games but does everything worse so there's no reason to play it.
>>377506718
>thinks that PH's image is exclusive to James
it 100% is exclusive to James nigger.
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Replayed Silent Hill Homecoming recently. It's actually pretty good. Lots of symbolism in there.
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>>377506864
>doesn't stray from the lore
>Mandarins that were exclusive to James suddenly appear for Heather
>Harry's note that states that the Alesa was ritually burnt and the explosion was set up by Dahlia and not an accident

You're just a fanboy who thinks that TS are literally gods who have the whole SH universe and mechanics thought through to each small detail.
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>>377504882

This. This is really what fucked the series. Complete dogmatic hatred of anything past SH4.
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>>377506965
what iconic monster are you talking about that they fucked up? I never played origins
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>>377506965
>it 100% is exclusive to James nigger.

No, it's not, it has deep connections to SH history and lore.
It appeared for James in the first place only because he saw a picture of it in Historical Society and was so impressed by it, it became his own personal executioner
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>>377506965
>this monster design
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>>377507107
As far as I remember people hated silent hill 4 way more when it came out than homecoming.
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>>377506965
>PH is 100% is exclusive to James.

Literally the stupidest thing I ever heard. The cult's kids had been indoctrinated with the image as a punishment figure for hundreds of years, based on the executioners.
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>>377454389
Kek I was already terrified at the prison part of SH2 where you continiously fall through holes and delve into hell itself. I was almost unable to continue playing but I am planning to play SH3 soon too. Now I'm kind of doubting that thought haha
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>>377507116
Shamelessly ripping off Pyramid Head
>>377507169
110% incorrect. That painting appears to James well after he sees Pyramid Head and there is literally fucking nothing to suggest that he saw it beforehand. It's a shitty, baseless fan theory that exists solely to excuse shameless rehashing in later games.
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>>377507186

I dunno, man. I remember when homecoming came out it was utterly torn to pieces, and it's been taboo to speak of liking it (or any other SH game past 4) ever since.
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>>377507274
Prove it, show me ONE thing that implies Pyramid Head exists outside of James uniquely. Protip: anything after SH4 is not valid evidence.
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>>377507019
Homecoming is by far the worst game in the series. Even by Tomm Huelett standards it's an abortion.
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>>377507413

>Protip: anything after SH4 is not valid evidence.

Why not? But, whatever man. There's a big painting of the executioner right there in the historical society.
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>>377507340
Not trying to disagree with you, it's rehash, but just because someone imagines a monster that doesn't mean someone else can't imagine something similar to it, since it's the same town and the same hell
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>>377507475
it's better than downpour
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>>377507058
Mandarins were in sh1
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>>377507058
>You're just a fanboy who thinks that TS are literally gods who have the whole SH universe and mechanics thought through to each small detail.

At least it's way more consistent than what the west had in mind for SH in general. Playing the subsequent games, I just feel like those developers saw the movie and thought they figured it all out. Where any of those devs fans of the originals? I doubt so.

Also, branding anyone who disagrees with you as fanboys is exactly what TP does, so that doesn't help your poor points get across.
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>>377507340
>That painting appears to James well after he sees Pyramid Head

You are a retard.
If he hadn't seen it before, how would he know otherwise known of the pyramid-shaped executioner figure that is heavily associated with the town and cult story? Especially considering that SH3 rehashed it model 1:1 for Valtiel which only strengthens the fact.

You're just a fanboying autist
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>>377507475

If you say so, pal. I really liked it, personally. My money's on downpour being the worst, but even that was quite good.
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>>377507515
>there was a hole here, it's gone now
EVIDENCE THERE WAS A HOLE HERE RIGHT THERE ^
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>>377507340
>there is literally fucking nothing to suggest that he saw it beforehand
Except for the fact that he's visited Silent Hill multiple times with Mary beforehand and went to the Historical Society, that would have had the picture.
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>>377507729

Are you a little retarded, friend. That line IS evidence of a hole being there.

Anyway, the picture is right there, and James and Mary would have seen it when they went there on holiday.

http://www.translatedmemories.com/bookpgs/Pg110-111.jpg
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>>377507515
>why not?
Because literally zero team silent members except for the composer had anything to do with them and they are almost all irredeemable trash.
>there's a big painting of the executioner right there in the historical society
Yeah and then the historical society leads 200 miles underground into a subterranean MC escher esque prison where you jump down tons of ridiculously deep holes, go deeper and deeper, and then come out surface level on the seaside. Was the historical society always like THAT in reality, you fucking dunce? But clearly the painting was definitely always there, nothing ever changes.
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>>377507625
>At least it's way more consistent than what the west had in mind for SH in general.

Yeah, remember where devs implied that SH1's events are Harry's pre-death hallucinations after the accident?
Or how in SH2 they keep putting references to SH's powers dominating the city way before the events with Alessa which wasn't mentioned at any point during SH1's story?

Thought so.
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>>377507805
Damn some people are just fucking dumb
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>reusing assets is some kind of sin now
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>>377507805

"Three years ago, when James visited this town, the figure overlapped with his own feelings of guilt..."
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ITT: People who love the same series of videogames trying to find the smallest things and details to argue and hate each other
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>>377507849

> But clearly the painting was definitely always there, nothing ever changes.

The devs seem to think it was there
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>>377507625
>lore rape doesn't count because TS did it!

Literally you right now.
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>>377437697

Unironically this sad fuck.

Didn't help that I am a widower too

Imagine my fucking face playing through this game, was probably the wildest ride I ever had.
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>>377507973
not an argument
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How is this thread still here
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>>377507952

It's pretty one-sided though. There are chill people who like a bit of psychological horror, and like the series. And then there are weirdo weeaboo freaks who will only accept the reality of 1-3.

Bit silly to argue over it, really. If you want to see just how fucking awful silent hill can get, read the comics.
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>>377507849
Painting in the otherworld was on the surface level just like the real thing would be.
Or you're implying that the Historical Society doesn't exist and wasn't built on top of the prisons which was also mentioned in the game?

God, I just love morons like you who pretend they know everything about the series shitting on non-jap entries, while in fact they know jack shit.
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>>377507952
Everything after 4 may as well be a completely different series.
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>>377507952
The minute God crapped out the third caveman, a conspiracy was hatched against one of them.
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>>377508000
how and why did you hate and kill her
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>>377508086
So all the weird shit in the Otherworld Brookhaven is always there because it's on the surface level? That's one unsanitary hospital.
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>>377508040
Literally the FFXV-kun of SH threads.
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>>377508086

He's just a dunce, m8. check >>377507805

It's an explanation guide written with the express consent and overview of the creator. It's basically the Silent Hill bible.

I hate referring to it, because death of the author and all that, but some of these autists need to learn their place, sometimes.
What's your fave Silent Hill game? Mine's Shattered Memories, I think..but it's a tough one. I appreciate it the most because of the influence the original has over me..hmm
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>>377508185
James did not hate Mary.
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>>377508228
the what?
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>>377508194

>all the weird shit in the Otherworld Brookhaven

Of course it's THERE. You just don't normally see it.
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>>377508253
>Shattered Memories
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>>377507851
>Yeah, remember where devs implied that SH1's events are Harry's pre-death hallucinations after the accident?
In the explicitly non-canon worst possible ending? wew lad
>Or how in SH2 they keep putting references to SH's powers dominating the city way before the events with Alessa which wasn't mentioned at any point during SH1's story?
where exactly? Also in SH1 it's clear that the cult at least existed before Alessa.
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In any arguments, just notice who resorts to name-calling first to figure out who's wrong.
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>>377508253
I know that feel.
The worst thing is that they don't even try to think for themselves, just spouting shit those autists TP produce.

>What's your fave Silent Hill game?
SH3 = SH2 > SH1 > SH:0 = SH:SM > SH4 > SH:H > SH:D imo
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>>377508185

I didn't, car accident.
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Come to think of it I know nothing about silent hill games
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>>377477732
>silent hill game
SH2 (although I can see that it's overrated)
>song from the soundtracks
Silent Hill 1 - My Heaven
>location in any game
The Hospital in SH2 and SH3
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>>377508260
talking about anon
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>>377508380
>REEEEE TWIN PERFECT SHILLS
excellent meme, love how it ignores the fact that TP disliked SH4 so everyone defending it is disagreeing with them.
SH2>SH1>SH3>SH4>>>SH:SM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THE REST
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>>377508380

I've never seen Origins so high on the list..mind if I ask what you played it on?
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3 = 2 > 1 >4 > 0 >>>the rest
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>>377508498
ecstasy
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>>377508351
>where exactly?

You know, the whole thing about first settlers that used the seeds of white claudia to amplify the perception of spiritual powers of the town to see shit
Or all the ghost sitings like Little Baronessa
Or the memo on Walter Sullivan who saw a red devil executioner coming for him.
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>>377507851

>SH's powers dominating the city way before the events with Alessa which wasn't mentioned at any point during SH1's story?

The white claudia shit wasn't explained either. it wasn't fantastic storytelling in many ways.
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>>377508554
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>>377508498
PS2
It's certainly not the best game in the series, but the otherworld was tense, MC had great backstory that you had to pay attention to to fully discover and the original enemies design was high-tier.
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>post yfw shit taste anons defend those western abortions
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Can somebody link me some of the sick and twisted parts of the SH1 soundtrack? Trying to go through all of it is bit of a chore since I'm sleep as fuck right now. thanks in advance.
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>>377508714
you can stop samefagging.
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>>377508749
Learn what it means before using the term, newfriend.
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>>377508356
Shut up faggot
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>>377508830
Apply to yourself.
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>>377508739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY92NAdGaR4
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>>377508679

Yeah, same here. And it was..okay. Tried playing it on PSP a little while ago though, and it was so much fucking better. I don't know why, but..playing it on the small screen, in the dark..it was actually quite frightening, and I don't scare easy.
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>>377508714

haha, you're so mad that people like what you don't. Go and have a cry about it.
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I recommend all anons itt to go watch the movie Jacob's Ladder, silent hill was highly influenced by it
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>>377504621

Having played it until I unlocked everything, I can safely say its 6/10. The story could have been interesting if it didn't plaster on the whole "lol u forgot ur crazy, so u think ur a vet" at the end, which made everything shitty and the characters are nothing to write home about.
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>>377508906
>>377508910
>>377508996

Hello SH:O-kun
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>it's been two years
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>>377509018

Seconded. It's a really good movie, and if you go play SH right after it, it's fun to look for all the homages

>>377509095

>he doesn't know how to check for samefags
>laughing_nurses.jpg
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>>377508564
None of those things are anywhere near definitive or contradictory. The white claudia was drug trafficking to fund the cult and Walter's red devil is not necessarily PH.
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>>377464464
This is an easy one. James visited SH with mary before and it was great. But when he comes back (with sins), the town turns into the foggy dimension. Hell version is the world mixed with ´´true´´ psyche of the person´s mind it reflects
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>>377489189
>Oookay.
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>>377509095
Who?

I was just making a shitty joke. Don't be so paranoid.

Faggot.
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>James can't open a refridgerator door in Brookhaven
>Needs Maria's help to open it
>Maria doesn't even exist

What's the deal with that?
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>>377509361
sure just a joke
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>>377509416
Nope, she exists. The fact that we can see her is proof enough. Just as the executioner painting is proof of it's presence in real SH and that there was a hole there but it's gone now.
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>there are people who don't know that Eddie and Angela don't really exist and are just more reflections of James' psyche
>>377509416
Maria DOES exist, as does everything James sees on his adventure. He is not crazy, the town is projecting his subconscious into reality.
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>>377507413
>show me ONE thing that implies Pyramid Head exists outside of James uniquely
1. Historical society photos and painting.
2. pic.
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>>377509416

The towns way of showing James is a weak man.
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>>377501820
it fucks the lore, it rapes pyramid head for having him in the game for no good reason.

most importantly, the creator of HC was also the creator of the HD Collection. he is known as a gigantic twat who made the HD Collection unplayable trash.
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>>377509242
White claudia is the drug made out of seeds of the plants that are growing near Toluca lake and it's mentioned in SH2 that indians habiting the lands way before it became SH used those seeds to amplify the spiritual powers of the area, which existed way before the Alessa incident and stated specifically and clearly in the game.

>Walter's red devil is not necessarily PH
It isn't, but they use the same source mental image of an executioner figure from the town's lore.
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>>377509416
he has autism, just like you!
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>>377508260
At the very end, he did
He resented her for sucking the life out of him with her illness
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>>377509543
What would Eddie and Angela represent if that is true?
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>>377509543
eddie and angela are real, maria is a projection
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I thought it was known in the community that Valtiel was basically Pyramid Head without his mask/headgear. What James saw was an executioner persona of it based on his guilt.
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>>377509583
Huh, I've seen that painting a million times and never noticed PH. You've convinced me, good job.
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>>377510069
Try to convince SH:O-kun

Although he knows it all, basically you're wrong :^)
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why are the enemies in those games so fucking stupid looking

how is it supposed to be a horror game when I just want to laugh my ass off whenever one of those motherfuckers is speeding on the ground
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>>377510175
>being autistic
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>>377510069
Not quite. It's generally believed that PH and Valtiel may be the same entity/demon taking different forms but PH doesn't have Valtiel's face under his helmet, see pic related his helm is full of gross fleshy shit.
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How come Valtiel was never fought?
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>>377507058
>>Mandarins that were exclusive to James suddenly appear for Heather

They aren't exclusive to James. >>377485434
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>>377510069
People here not even aware that Lisa in Shattered Memories took White Claudia in the form of pills.
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>>377509605

>having him in the game for no good reason.

The cult used it as executioners and deliverers of punishment, just as they did in old Silent Hill.

Works for me. But then, i'm not autismal.
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>>377509612
Alessa is never stated to be the sole reason SH is the way it is. It has a comically massive list of things that make it haunted.

>>377509675
Eddie is the aspect of James that killed those who were in his way and inhibiting him in life but not admitting it in the beginning. He's a fat dumb glutton because he represents greed and selfishness. Eddie not being real also solves the age old question of where the fuck he got a fresh pizza.

Angela might actually be a real person though now that I think about it considering her more complex backstory and motivation.
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>>377510261
There's no point to it throughout most of the game. Valtiel would never fight Heather when she was supposed to give birth to God. Attacking her would have gone against that purpose. The only appropriate time for Valtiel to have gotten aggressive on Heather would be right after she beat God, but it'd be a bit anti-climatic to have God not be the final boss of the game.
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>>377510261
Valtiel is the otherworld's manager, attacking him would serve no purpose, his job is to serve God and keep the otherworld neat and tidy.
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>>377510401
Isn't the whole series just everyone getting high on White Claudia?
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>>377510246
I don't understand your point... you mean he can't be the same god taking a different physical form because his physical form is different in both games?

...?
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>>377510483
>I just call anyone who has different opinions than me mentally ill so I can feel like I have the moral highground
There is a special place in hell for people like you
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>>377510401
Lisa's inclusion in SM was the most pointless shit ever, it didn't matter at all.
>>377510261
Valtiel's goal was to protect Heather to ensure the birth of the god. Once the god is born he lifts it's veil and then disappears because his job is done and he allows Heather to die to the god. On the game over screen he drags Heather away to be resurrected before the god is born.
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>>377510142
Only I said the exact same thing arguing that PH's image belongs to the town's lore and not James, while you were saying the opposite
Nice try though, autism-bro.
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>>377510246
>his helm is full of gross fleshy shit
Only in this figurine.

Anyway Butcher waaay more distinct from SH2 PH design to call it rehash.
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>>377510608
No, I was just saying that PH isn't literally Valtiel in a helmet. Just a minor discrepancy in the physical forms.
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>>377510620
At least you knew who I was talking about, SH:O-kun
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>>377510618

>Lisa's inclusion in SM was the most pointless shit ever, it didn't matter at all.

She's one of Cheryl's projections. She matters as much as any of the other characters.
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>>377510665
>only in the figurine
he has it in the model, it's just more subtle. Butcher is still the exact same dynamic as PH, just a slightly different face and knife.
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>>377510701
At least you finally agreed that you're an autist who spouts shit he doesn't know much about in the first place
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>>377510694
But Valtiel was said to be literally Pyramid Head by Team Silent.
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>>377510610

What I mean is..I can cope with change, and a break of established routine. Autismals can't.

>There is a special place in hell for people like you

Though it's nice to see you doing just the thing you accuse me of. Wew. No wonder people hate teamsilentfags
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>>377510570
Actually Travis is a Valtiel
Funny enough there are tons of reasons for that.
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>>377510785
forgot pic
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>>377510813
Triggered the faggot
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>>377510850
>people hate teamsilentfags
No it's just you
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Tomm Hulett did nothing wrong
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>>377511013

M8, it's not even just me in THIS THREAD.
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>>377510850
Read >>377508356
>No wonder people hate teamsilentfags
I'm not. I like a lot of post-TS games. HC is just complete garbage. But again, you're just calling me a name instead of offering a single argument.
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>>377510496
laura is real and she talks to eddie, he's real.
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>>377511131
This. No one is a bigger Silent Hill fan than him. No hyperbole. Literally no one. He even made Born From A Wish playable.
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>>377510850
>>377511131
I wonder WHO'S behind these posts...
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>>377510847
Actually Masahiro Ito just said they all wear the cerimonial robe of the cult to imply they're connected in some form

SH1: tortured cultist bodies are wearing the cerimonial robe
SH2: Pyramid Head wears the cerimonial robe, yeah it's not a butcher apron
SH3: Valtiel wears the cerimonial robe as well.

In the God's servants art in the church, Pyramid head appears on the far left while Valtiel is besides him.
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>>377505509
She looks like she shit herself here, I see a brown stain
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>>377511172

>just calling me a name instead of offering a single argument.

If you're so thin-skinned that names are gonna hurt you, you really shouldn't be here?

And what argument do you give for subjective enjoyment? I like the combat? I like the symbolism? I like the extension of the series' lore?

Anything I could say is going to be subject to "nuh uh"
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Damn, thread is going to the otherworld.
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>>377511241
>He even made Born From A Wish playable
Serious talk, what did he mean by this? What exactly did he do to Born From a Wish that he considers it to have become playable when the original played just fine?
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>>377511289
all the anal with harry made her butthole loose
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>>377511346
>>377511346

>valtiel turns the wheel

>>377511525
>>377511525
>>377511525
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>>377511298
>If you're so thin-skinned that names are gonna hurt you, you really shouldn't be here?
I never said that it hurt me. It doesn't. I just find at amusing that some people (you) are unable to write a single sentence without calling someone something bad so you can feel superior. It makes you look extremely dumb because it shows how you don't know enough words to form an actual argument.

You keep talking but you're not saying anything.
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>>377511464
it's a meme
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>>377511464
I'm pretty sure he meant the voice acting. He DID call the voice acting in Silent Hill shit once.
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>>377511298
>this redditspacing
fuck off back to >>>/reddit/
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>>377511643

In actual fact, I gave several reasons, and you ignored them to continue talking about how names don't hurt you, but here's a list of reasons you're trash because you called me names.

nah, fuck off.
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>>377508000
I'm sorry bro. I'm a widower too.
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>>377511656
well it is shit
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>>377511737
I can't even understand what you're trying to say at this point. Are you able to write English? You sound illiterate. Please try to reformulate your sentence so I can actually understand you.
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>>377511797
Of course it is, Tomm. Of course it is.
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