so now that the dust has settled, can we all admit that this

>>377432694
But not as good as New Vegas

"no"

I found this game so boring that I didn't even make it inside the Institute before I stopped playing.

>/v/ likes Fallout 4 because it has waifus

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it is a good GAME, but not a good fallout game. Stll bad.

>>377432873
>it is a dur dur hurr but doopity doo durrr

fuck off

>>377432694
decent

>>377432745
see
>>377432760

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No.

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Yes, it WAS good.
Just not a good RPG or Fallout game.
It was an action game with skill trees. Armor and weapons hardly make a difference and there is basically not "RPG" to this game.

>>377433254
see
>>377432956

>>377433254
Yeah, I also hated how there's no stealth in it. You can crouch but meleeing or shooting an enemy, even with a silencer, alerts everyone. They didn't layout the enemies in a way so you could stealth kill them like in bethesdas previous games.

the game is ALRIGHT, it still is an unoptimized piece of shit, like beyond terrible port for PC

and runs like ass

currently playing through this with like 255+ mods installed and its pretty good

>>377432694
>tfw you get stuck in the feedback loop of looting and expanding your settlements

am i a pleb

>>377433254
>>377432873
>LE TODD posters
fallout is and always has been a fucking linear story, heavily scripted encounters, etc etc

bunch of niggers went in expecting skyrim 2.0 and fallout has never been that

>>377432694
how many hundred times have this dust settled?

>>377432694
FUCK OFF, TODD. SERIOUSLY, GO FUCKING DIE IN A HOLE.

>>377432694

shit RPG, great FPS/action game

8/10 overall, and this is from a fallout fan. do something about it bitch

I wish the mods for FO4 weren't just cosmetic improvements and actually did something to change the game mechanics a bit

>>377432694
>can we all admit that Fallout 4 Out Of 10 was actually really good?
No

>>377432694
Funny moments?

>just met the ghoul kid in the fridge
>have to slog through quincy ruins
>kill everyone and get to the exit
>from the other side the wall this guy in combat armor and holding a pistol walks out
>immediately gun him down and loot him like normal
>find out later he was going to offer to buy the ghoul kid

His fucking fault dude. I just finished killing 15 raiders and he just walked in front of me armed. Anyone would have shot him.

Fallout 3 is my favorite game of all time, but I didn't like 4 at all

3 > 4 > Barren Vegas

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>>377434207
>Fallout 3 is my favorite game of all time

>>377434257
Good. I hope that pic is accurate. Fallout 3 has the perfect atmosphere and feels enormous and the world feels simultaneously alive and appropriately apocalyptic. New Vegas and F4 weren't able to capture the particular magic F3 had.

>>377434745
>Fallout 3 has the perfect atmosphere and feels enormous and the world feels simultaneously alive and appropriately apocalyptic
So you're an Bethbaby who never touched 1 or 2?

>>377434885
I played the first one. I loved it. We're talking about games comparable to 4 though.

>>377434991
Bullshit, if that were the case you wouldn't regard Fallout 3 as "appropriately apocalyptic" or having "perfect atmosphere"

>>377435104
I'm not sure what you're implying. Are you one of those fags that argue society would've righted itself after that time?

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I love Fallout 4! I am so glad that I pre-ordered it and the season pass, and will certainly do so for Bethesda Game Studios next venture!

>>377435240
Fallout 3 completely failed at capturing the Fallout atmosphere and setting, the game had nothing to do with Fallout other than the title. The gameplay was also trash, they dumbed it down and removed far too many features and mechanics.
The reason why New Vegas was better was because it took from 1 and 2, it was an actual RPG and had the right atmosphere and setting.

>>377434745
>appropriately apocalyptic
kek fuck off, the game was set 200 years after the war but appeared to have only been a few months after.

>>377435472
If New Vegas is so good, explain why Vegas itself only had 23 people living in it?

Better than FO3 or even NV but thats still not saying much

>>377434885
fallout 1 and 2 is for oldfags. Nobody play this kind of shit anymore.

>>377432694
Kinda good. Far better than 3 at least. Writing not up to NV standards though.

>>377435685
Same reason why every Fallout 3 town suffered the same problem, the engine is a piece of shit.

combat is the best out of the three, map density is also much better, the urban areas feel less like levels and more like a part of the map, unlike fallout 3's downtown area which was divided up into little playgrounds.
power armor mechanics are hands down the reason why fallout 4 is better than fo3 or new vegas. also the crafting system makes all the stupid chaff items actually worth something for once, which adds a new element of scavenging to the game.

the only parts of fallout 4 that sucks is the plot and the skill redesign.

>>377436049
>the only parts of fallout 4 that sucks is the writing, roleplaying, and gameplay
Well gee then it's not very good now is it.

>>377432694

Ambitious in some ways but fell very short. Perks replacing skills was a huge misstep. Either you could breath water or made your peashooter into a decent weapon? I was a 100 hours into the game and rocket launchers were doing scratch damage.

>>377436229

but i said the gameplay was the best of the three why would you fucking put words in my mouth like that?

also 'its a bad fallout game if the story is sub-par' is such a stupid argument and its used primarily by people who haven't played FO4.

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>>377436645
Fallout 4 has worse gameplay though, it's basically just a shooter now. All RPG mechanics have been dumbed-down or completely removed.

>>377437084
>he thinks cutscene simulators and dialog trees is gameplay
run along back to your rpg codex shit hole you crawled out of, cancerous turd of a human being

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>>377437198
>Quests and dialog choices
>Not gameplay

>>377437084
>allout 4 has worse gameplay though, it's basically just a shooter now.

thank god, replaying fallout nv after playing 4 was such a chore due to how clunky the aiming and shooting was. just because a game has rpg elements doesn't mean its automatically better than a game with simpler mechanics.

>>377432694
terrible rpg, kind of ok shooter. Anyone who says it's a "great" shooter is fooling themselves and can't accept that there can be all around bad games.

>>377437198
not an argument

>>377437484

what makes it not a great shooter? i would prefer you back up your claims with examples.

>>377437436
>just because a game has rpg elements doesn't mean its automatically better than a game with simpler mechanics
That's kind of the fucking point of an RPG you lizard-brained casual.

>>377437602
The quests having too many different solutions is confusing, and factions are hard to follow and understand. Just want shoot monsters.

>>377432694
Just reinstalled and adding mods.i enjoy it, don't really get the hate.

>>377437789
You should try the previous games, then you'd understand.

>>377437605
>this game doesn't fit the definition of an RPG so its a shit game
well done

>>377437721
>Just want shoot monsters.
nothing is stopping you from doing that

>>377437873
>this game doesn't fit the definition of an FPS so its a shit game
Works both ways faggot. However you're judging an RPG as if it were supposed to be a shooter, so I'd say you're the retard here.

>>377432694
There were no interesting places to explore in the game 0/10 that is what made fallout 3 great. I liked going into the metro system for the first time and exploring all those buildings to find unique weapons. Fallout 4 has zero of this and got rid of uniques why even do that fetch quest if everything to do with fallout 4 isn't about scavving buildings to find that awesome unique plasma rifle?

>>377437602
Play more real shooters, than you'll understand. Even Bioshock Infinite has better shooting mechanics than F4.

HATE FALLOUT 4

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>>377434745

>>377438192

define real shooter please im laughing rn

>>377438192
this is the cruelest insult i've ever read on /v/

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>>377438223
The moment I saw that dialog wheel, I fucking knew it's purpose was to hide that your dialog choices were meaningless.

>>377432864
pretty much this, same reason /v/ likes games from japan

What the fuck was up with the melee in this game?

>disarm guy with my melee perk
>he now can only use his fists
>he can block my heated super sledge with his bare arms
>he can also stun me quickly since his arms can punch faster than my heavy hammer

>>377438469

>4 ways to respond to confirming that you finished a mission are very similar

oh no!

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>>377438663
Don't pretend this issue isn't prevalent all through the game.

>>377438663
>very similar
Three of them are literally the same exact line.

>>377432694
>>377432694
im still waiting for dlc on disc edition. bitch.

>>377438770
>4 ways to respond confirming that you're here to help are very similar

are you trying to prove my point or something

>>377438153
Better to have proper shooting mechanics and rpg tacked on than the other way around.

>>377438401
One that is gameplay first and roleplaying second, or not at all
ex. Doom, Fear, Half life

>>377432694
Six and a half at best.

Japanese boards are so much better than this bullcrap. Why can't 4chan users just take it easy and make fun of the obvious bait? Why must everything be reduced to vague blogging, serious opinion spouting and pointless 1-on-1 arguing?

>>377439149
he's trying to say why can you only offer help to that lady instead of at least being able to tell her to fuck off? it's bad enough you only get 4 dialog options
it's even worse when all 4 of those options are often the exact same thing, just with sarcasm or being blunt about it or being cheery.

>>377432694
No. It was playable, and I had some fun with it. But it's by far the worst of the Bethesda games. I had some fun with the base building, broken as it was, but the story and quests were just tedious as fuck. They need to stop trying to be cinematic and have all these story heavy quests where all you do is wait for NPC's to talk to eachother, they are terrible at it and it doesn't work with the format. Skyrim suffered from it bad as well, makes replaying it such a fucking chore.

>>377432760
>>377433235
/thread

>>377437418
>he thinks dialog boxes are gameplay
kill yourself shitter. you are literal cancer. i bet you think witcher 3 had the best god damn gameplay ever, LOL.

you're cancer spawned out of ME2 , waifu loving cancer shitters who would sit circlejerking over dialog wheels all day

>>377439631
>replaying it
that's where you fucked up. Skyrim and F4 aren't games you ever replay
you make one character and that's it.
if you were to replay the game and try to go down those other paths you saw, the illusion would be shattered. you'd realize how dead the world is, how nothing you do matters, how all the paths lead to the same thing, and how you never had any choice from the get go at all
Skyrim and F4 are average block buster movies. you watch them once and that's it. they have no other worth beyond that first screening.

>>377433235
>CrankyPB
>PB
Triggered.

>>377432694
I wish they could bring the power armor form 4 to the other games.

that's the only thing they got right.

>>377432694
Fallout 4 is "le ebin postapocaliptic game with funny memes" for edgy 12 year olds.
Lore is inconsistent, quests are just tedious grinding and shooting galleries over and over, there is no RPG mechanics, thus no character development of any kind, better yet, they replaced RPG mechanics with minecraft minigames, characters are boring and the story is retarded and badly delivered.

>b...but muh shooting...
>muh power armor
>so much better than in recent fallouts
If you want to play a shooter, go fuck off to CoD, and if you want the PA experience, play on easy mode without running. Congratulations, you are a stupid normie.

>>377439541
>he's trying to say why can you only offer help to that lady instead of at least being able to tell her to fuck off?

why would you take a mission to help a settlement, just to show up and tell them to fuck off?

you guys are arguing the most banal shit

>>377432694
I've played all the 3D fallouts and I still prefer Fallout 2. It's the only game that doesnt feel like an aggressive waste of time.

>>377440078
why not? why can't I tell her to fuck off?
oh right because console controllers only have 4 face buttons so there's no way there could ever be more than 4 responses to anything anyone says at any given time.

>>377439987
>If you want to play a shooter, go fuck off to CoD, and if you want the PA experience, play on easy mode without running. Congratulations, you are a stupid normie.
>trying this hard to come across as a hardcore rpg player when you're arguing about first person fallout games

>>377432694
The combat in 4 is totally unmatched but I think the setting lets it down, I didn't think much of the story either.

>>377439910
I disagree. I've played Skyrim for about 500 hours and I still keep coming back to it, played it yesterday even. I just don't do like 90% of the quests.

I even keep coming back to Fallout 4 every once in a while, though I get bored of that way quicker.

>>377440078
Defend this faggot:
>>377437084

>>377440185
>why not? why can't I tell her to fuck off?

because that doesn't make any sense and you're getting worked up over completely childish shit.

>>377439864
youd have a point if the game wasnt marketed as and supposed to be an RPG

>>377437084
I keep thinking of the horrible death by molotov cocktail somebody could have if those things existed in real life.

>>377432694
I still play it in short periods of time, it's pretty entertaining.

>>377440204
>Implying rpg players can't enjoy other kinds of games

>>377432694
HURR DURR DEEP AS A PUDDLE WIDE AS THE OCEAN GOOD GAEM BAD FALLOUT TODD TOOK THE RP OUTTA MUH G I DONT CARE BOUT MY SON CASUAL SHOOTER

>>377432694
>cam we all agree?
maybe this thread will be a good life lesson for you. no, "we all" cant agree, people have differing opinions.
i think its a good game, like i always thought, but it has flaws that i hope bethesda wont repeat.

>>377440367
Is this one of them baits I've been hearing so much about?

>>377440260
you're finishing a quest, of course all the choices are going to be 'finish the quest' with different flavor text. if you're trying to argue that fallout 4 isn't on par with fucking planescape im not gonna refute

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>>377432694
So I learned today that FO4 only uses a max of 4gigs of VRAM. Any truth to this?

I've got a 1080Ti and the shit is stuttering. I've got a ton of mods running on it, but I think LOOT did a decent job organizing the load order.

Anyone got any experience, or maybe a vram memory uncap mod?

Really good? No.

Good? Yes. In many ways it's a good game but they fucked up big time on the RPG parts.

>>377438663
>>377439149
>4 ways
Are you retarded or something? 4 ways is when you are given an option to lie, bluff or do an evil action instead of simply finishing a quest.

>>377441294

why lie or bluff when you can just not fucking talk to them and keep the item? if you want to be evil just shoot them.

I never finished it because I got bored, started replaying it recently and am having a lot more fun for some reason.

Also using mods this time. Sim Settlements makes settlement building both actually fun and not a complete pain in the fucking ass. Any other decent mods I should use? Not "this adds a neat looking weapon or set of armour" shit but gameplay/content mods.

>>377432694
After all the butthurt I felt, I have to admit that, looking at the overall atmosphere, it's one of the best games I have ever played. 93er here

>>377441565
holy shit

Why do people praise the combat in 4? The gameplay is a stuttery mess

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I'm willing to give it a shot when there is a full version for sale at a sensible price.
Fuck these season passes and the DLC jewery, Bethesda has surpassed even Electronic Arts by now.

>>377442875

if you're that hesitant just pirate it

>>377437605
You're such a salty gay lizard.

>>377435726
If someone played these games at release, then they should be posting here. Fallout 1 is an extremely good game but we don't have room for 40+ fags here

>>377432694
Bought it, Returned it.
Pirated it about six months later, Deleted it in under 3 hours played.

Did not enjoy 1 bit.

no, it was shit and I hate you
the protagonist and story are fucking garbage, I can't even attempt to immerse myself in the post-apocalyptic world because every other NPC has to bring up their fucking family and trigger an array of relevant responses from my faggot widow character
there's barely any weapon variety because those lazy sacks of shit thought 30 identical receivers made up for ammunition and guns
they wasted so much time on the fucking settlement system instead of designing actual towns, they had the nerve to sell vanilla assets at DLC when mods had already made them available, and the settlement defense system doesn't even work right because enemies spawn inside your base

power armor is literally the only thing it almost did right, but then they dropped a set right at the end of the tutorial and gave you nearly infinite fuel for it, nevermind the dozens of models littering the wasteland

>>377432694
Not even when the dust has solidified and constitutes the muckbed of the great oceans of future aeons will fallout 4 ever have been "really good"; "good" alone is already a stretch.

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>>377440589
Anyone?

>>377437860
I've played 3 and nv. Finished 3 with mods and NV was a pain in the ass to add mods to and work with.
I get it's different but I don't understand the hate still, I found the story pretty subpar.

>>377443659

>power armor should be rare and the batteries shouldn't last long BECAUSE I SAID SO

good argument.

>>377432694
just started a new game, Its better than I remember. all the areas are nicely designed, with new vegas levels of telling a story through the environment.
The voiced protag really brings it down and on repeated playthroughs the settlement shit is just an annoying distraction
The mod scene is pretty bad too, its been how long since the last dlc dropped and half the mods havent been updated in a year? kinda disappointing.

>>377439631
Alternative start is a must for me, can't stand the nor am start.

>>377443852
enb has a tool that lets you unlock that

>>377444109
it should last forever and be very rare because it's retarded to hand the player a walking tank with no downsides right out the door, you shit eating moron

>>377444368
If they are so powerful HOW DID THEY LOOSE TO FATBOYS!?

>>377437198
this post literally is a waste of time

I really liked the changes to power armor.

>>377444317
Do you know what its called?

>>377444368
>it should last forever and be very rare

other than because lore says so, why? all of you guys are basically saying "its not what it used to be so its SHIT"

Why isnt NV FO4?

>>377432694
No, never, fuck off

>>377432694
Good game, shit rpg.

>>377444945
Because Van Buren isn't F3

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>>377432873
>>377432956
>>377433254
>>377433867
>>377433951
>>377434207
>>377434745
>>377435240
>>377435245
>>377435685
>>377436049
>>377437198
>>377437721
>>377438663
>>377439149
>>377440652
>>377444024
pic related, but for both f03 and f04 because you all have some serious shit taste. They tried for Quantity > Quality as seen with the "infinite quest" shit and the "Weapon mod" shit and "Legendary" fucking bullshit. Shooting is better but THAT'S IT. I've played bioshock and i can safely say it has reminded me of NV and that good feelings i had while playing NV more than F03 and F04 combined, and it was a goddamn ACTION RPG, more ACTION than RPG, yet i felt involved in the story and i felt like my actions on the character/little sister had a purpose. All of you, kill yourselve and never come back, you're the reason fallout has gone down the shitters, it's because you need a simple upgrade and see nothing else afterward, case for f04: shooting and movement arent clunky anymore. That's it.

They could have done better as seen on their Artbook, but they were lazy and wanted money more than reputation and long term gain, they were asshole and decided to fuck the serie to fit their own vision of it without any regards to what the original creators tought of it.

I quit during the intro. It was fucking abysmal. After a few weeks I went back and decided to get to the game proper to give it a fair chance. Quit after saving the minute man people in the first town area thing. It's embarrassing this thing is called Fallout. 3 was an embarrassment, but i managed to get through the storyline. 4 was just offensively mediocre.

there are more bad fallout games than good ones at this point so it's not even a series worth saving anymore

>>377445745
FO4 is shit but you didn't play more than an hour you ADHD fuck

>>377445585
you sound like someone who went into the game wanting to hate it, thats the problem with so many of you people, you're so fucking spiteful and angry that you play games wanting to find reasons to hate it and make fun of it instead of simply enjoying the good parts about it.

>>377444893
first of all you god damn moron, people are entirely justified in being upset with bethesda shitting on the lore every other sentence just because they couldn't be assed to make a brand new post-apocalyptic IP and decided to bastardize someone else's instead
second, by being so common and easy to power, but also being so defensively strong, it trivializes the game if you get in your first set and never leave it
the best armor in the game should take a little effort to get, it should be exciting to come on pieces of it instead of just being another abysmal piece of loot you've seen ten times before and will sell to the next trader for 100 caps

But Bethesda doesn't care about any of that. They weren't interested in RPG-like player progression, they weren't interested in balance. The stuck the PA everywhere so reviewers and kids would praise the game after playing an hour, just like everything else they front-loaded into Concord. They wanted a fucking movie.

>>377445892
>ADHD

i think ADHD would have helped enjoyment of the game. it's clearly designed for spastics

>>377445745
Posts like this are pretty funny. Good for you that you played the first 5 minutes of the game and managed to decide it was shit. Despite what you seem to think, your opinion holds no weight simply because in the same post you flat out say you didn't even give the game a chance.

Putrid pile of shit game, but holy fuck to see the people like you complain about it is a truly good laugh, it's like you're just desperately trying to parrot the opinions of others just so you can fit in here.

>>377432760
No
Sarcastic no
Yes(but actually no)
Question?

>>377446452
No
Sarcastic no
I'll say no later
Question?

>>377432694
Only on the first play through, it has shitty replayability value

>>377446747
and to add to that, the only good thing about this game was you could strip your companions and put them in stocks in a bdsm dungeon.

>>377444664
enboost I think? should come pckaged with all the files.

>>377432694
It's pretty fun
My main issues with it were the poor performance and the settlement building got tedious as fuck.

>>377432694
No it's shit, it completely fails as an RPG in all aspects. Anyone who tries to defend it as "a bethesda game not an rpg" is a delusional faggot.

>>377447013

without the supply line perk you might as well not even try to build settlements.

>>377446441
>play a short amount of time
>you didn't even give it a chance!
>play slightly longer
>well if you played that long you obviously enjoyed it

please tell me the exact amount of time i need to play before i'm allowed to call a game shit.

>you're just desperately trying to parrot the opinions of others just so you can fit in here
nigger i could hit the post length limit just listing everything that's wrong in the opening monologue, and i still gave it a chance, and it managed to get worse. i'm a fucking professional whiny contrarian

>>377432694
it was a good game.

It's just not what people wanted/were expecting, an actual RPG.

>>377447221
>nigger i could hit the post length limit just listing everything that's wrong in the opening monologue

then do it, give actual fucking examples. im not mad that people think this game is shit im mad because people are doing such a bad job of explaining their opinions.

>>377434227
This.

>>377447246
it's not a good game
if you want a trashy open world shooter with rpg elements borderlands is superior in every way

Exploring and shooting shit are actually really fun in Fallout 4

Yet another le open world game where you walk around for hours with nothing to do.

No thanks.

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Just a reminder to check out Kinggath's Sim Settlements. Literally the best F4 mod. Settlement building is more fun and makes more sense.

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>>377447350
Not him but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mcJAI6oRYY
>details are pointless and trivial, the reason, purely human ones
>bethesda doesn't understand literally high-school-tier philosophical sentence of "War never changes" - therefore men have to.

>>377432694
Time for some copy pasta.
---
DAILY REMINDER!!
DO NOT BUY FALLOUT 4!!!
BUY LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE IN PLACE OF IT!!!

Fallout 4 will go down like this:
>>Rehashed enemies (Out of ideas for new enemies so they have to rehash from old games)
>>Rehashed HUD (Can't change the style while keeping the same placement)
>>Rehashed graphics (Barely looks better than PS3 graphics)
>>New areas that look like New Vegas DLC
>>Graphics downgrade (Just like Fallout 3 and New Vegas)
>>Buggy as shit launch with promises* to patch it later
>>Worst storyline of any Fallout game (they think throwing in a voice actor for the main character will somehow fix this dreck)
>>Multiple DLCs will launch within a few months so they can jew you into paying more than twice the cost of the base game

If you support this game then you are killing the vidya industry which is all about making fresh new games or at least trying to make innovate an existing franchise instead of creating another rehash. Seriously, just buy literally any other game.
---
So how true did this turn out to be, /v/?

>>377447431
>borderlands is superior
>has absolute shit taste
>thinks his opinion matters

>>377432694
The exploring and combat was good but there was practically nothing there other than that.

>>377447463
I liked the exploring in 3 better. Each place had its own little story/background.

>>377432694
I've been compiling a list of things that Fallout 4 didn't do completely wrong. Here it is:

-Radiation damage on enemies
-T-51b helmet is better
-Healing items are not instant on any difficulty

To my knowledge so far, everything else it did worse than its predecessors.

>>377447751
I never said it was good I said it was better. Both games are shit but if you were recently lobotomized and decided you wanted to play some trash Borderlands is the superior trash.

Why does it matter if it's objectively bad? Stop making people feel bad for having fun with something that's not your preference. Fallout 3 is objectively terrible but I love the shit out of that game, and I shouldn't feel bad about it.

OP is a disgusting pleb.

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>>377447221
you just keep going with your stupid fucking rambling yet still haven't posted ANYTHING that holds weight

inb4 you link a fucking youtube video by your favorite e-celeb

>>377447939
/board

>>377446452
>full dialogue mod installed
No
No you stupid faggot
Normally I'd agree, but not this time
What did he mean by this?

>>377447939
>it's objectively bad dude lmao
>but i love it and you shouldn't give me shit for liking it
i get the feeling you're just saying it's bad because you want to save face with anonymous strangers on an anime imageboard.

>>377448557
No it's just that you guys like to bully other people for liking something you don't like. It's not a personal thing. It just bothers me.

>>377435685
Because obsidian are cuckbois who accepter a shit contract from bathesda.


I am actually suprised at how good the game is considering the development time

>>377438663
Wait !?

There are actually people Who will defend this abomonation.

Get an aneuyrism with space Aids in your dick.

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>>377435685

Because Obsidian had to use Gamebryo and not continue the development of Van Buren.

>>377439987

>it is the fallout for edgy 12 y old

Could not have said it better

>>377434745
The world of Fallout 3 was fucking dead.
Literally every other game in the series had a more fleshed out world.

F3 was like a theme park with nobody in it except the costumed mascots.

>>377449563
>an aneuyrism
as a non-native English speaker I also struggle with the spelling of aneurysm.

>>377439987
>>b...but muh shooting...
Argument debunked with naming any shooter in the last 15 years

>>377450083
>The world of Fallout 3 was fucking dead.
>post apocalyptic wasteland
hmm, it's almost like it was intentional. nah that couldn't be it.

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A lot of areas that could've been interesting towns or dungeons were made into workshop fodder.
The workshop isn't really fun unless you're into building shit, and it's a shame that possible towns with interesting quests were scrapped for some shitty building aspect that isn't as rewarding as it should.
Most quests you can summarize in the first task, there aren't many branching quests, and when there are, they are really underwhelming.
Shooting shit is fun, but it was also fun in New Vegas, and the lack of "quirky" or "specialised" perks make multiple playthroughs feel same-y.
I still play it because A) I want to finish the DLC and B) Sim Settlements is kinda fun, I really wish the places you encountered were more than generic nests for enemis

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>>377450689
Also all legendary weapons feel generic and not as unique as they did in NV. No unique design, and fairly generic effects that are the equivalent of "+5% against undead", only fun one is the explosive one
Also legendary weapons are a pain in the ass because they're randomly generated so you often get weapons with legendary attributes that don't really work together

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>>377444893
>other than because lore says so
Unironically are you Pete Hines
You do not need any more reason than "It's not fucking consistent with the lore of the game world"
Just like how the opening is awful because it's portrayed as actually being just fine even though we know from both previous games AND actual shit in fallour 4 that yes, america is a starving shithole at the time the bombs drop
fuck you
I hate you cunt go read a fucking book and stop thinking that what you said is okay
if it was the arguement that "gameplay comes first" you would have a point
but even then it's clearly not because the gameplay is fucking wank
sluggish and unresponsive movement, weapons with little to no feedback, a total lack of any depth to the combat past "shoot the bit that's glowing red/not under the big armour shell" and that's not even universal
for a lot of enemies their armour literally doesn't matter because even though the lower level shit doesn't cover all the limb, you can shoot the unarmoured area and have the same amount of damage reduced as you would if you shot the armoured area
fuck you

I thought Fallout 4 was a decent shooter, but lukewarm RPG and a step in the wrong direction for the franchise.

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>>377441565
>if you want to be evil just shoot them.
And then they don't die because they're marked as essential.

>choose "sarcastic" option
>it's just a bad joke that's not sarcastic at all
>choose it again next conversation
>character literally bursts into treats, companion hates me forever, must now slog through more boring combat
why

I played it for about 10 hours and it was shit, I only made it to the gay city with the reporter outside. Every single fucking mission I was given was "go here and kill all the dudes".
The shooting has always been bad, in new vegas everything else made up for it. With Fallout 4 they improved the shooting a little bit but it still complete and total garbage compared to any other straight first person shooter.

The game is absolute horse shit, it's a teenage boys cum-encrusted bed sheet.

>Have a Core i5 7600k with DDR4 3200 mhz
>GTX 1060 broke, so i have to use a RX 480 that was laying around
>Did all the ini tweaks recommended for AMD cards, installed Shadow boost, disabled god rays
>Game still run like ass in downtown Boston, with fps going as low as early 20s

Fucking hell

>>377432694
I like it's engine, It's certainly better than the previous game. I can explore really tall buildings without almost never run into invisible wall. Story lacking though, as well as ways that you can complete quests like new vegas. It took away a lot of things that made new vegas good while recycle some story elements and retardation from fallout 3.

>>377432694
I really tried to like the game but I just couldn't. All you do is go to some place shoot a bunch of people and loot everything that isn't nailed to the ground. The shooting mechanics aren't good enough and the guns themselves aren't fun enough to keep this gameplay loop from boring me to death.

>>377453007
and it still looks worse than most games on the dreamcast
bravo todd, bravo bethesda

>>377453465
It's the same thing with SSE.

One the trip from the three standing stones to Riverwood with a GTX 1060 and no God Rays on = constant FPS

Same thing with an AMD card = 60 fps with drops to the 40s, while the normal Skyrim had constant 60 fps there even with texture packs / ENB

Nvidia cancerworks at work,

>>377453963
Normally I would put the blame on both nvidia and AMD being worthless, but the total lack of optimization or even attempting to do so by bethesda is a bigger cause
It's honestly unbelievable that it was allowed to be shipped

Fuck no, even my braindead normie friends got sick of this shit.

>>377432862

Yup, I couldn't be arsed finishing Act 3 either.

It all feels so pointless - the characters are forgettable, most of the missions don't progress the story or give you anything useful. It's just a mechanic to provide resources for building settlements.

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It's a bad game but I had some fun roleplaying as a synth mercenary

I just wish F4SE would be good so we could get some general gameplay enhancements, and a good gameplay rebalance mod does still not exist.

>>377455230
I know somebody who got like 1000 hours in FO4 on PS4 and all she does is horde shit forever. At least my 1000 hours on NV has been spread out on different characters.

>>377433535
It runs pretty well at 1600*900 on my 6790 desu senpai. (>40fps)

>>377440220
Vanilla Skyrim is bad but it got some really good gameplay overhaul mods. Requiem is a safe bet. Also pretty fantastic mods in general except for quest mods (since nobody wants to voice act mods).

Skyrim didn't butcher what TES is like FO4 did with it's universe. It just presented it in a bit boring way, but it had good TES moments here and there. /v/'s hate for Skyrim is amplified because of how overrated the game is, but it's not nowhere as bad as people claim it to be.

FO4 however is irredeemable trash.

>>377432694
Own every fallout game except for brotherhood and that email game

That said, fallout 4 and Bethesda games are just a do it yourself lot with relatively high production values, did I enjoy vanilla? Meh it felt like an upgraded fo3, with mods I'd have to say it might be good

I mean skyrim vanilla sucks, but with lewd mods(lore friendly), combat mods and mods that bring back stuff older mechanics/add in new ones makes it a very interesting but brutal g

>>377455675
>I just wish F4SE would be good so we could get some general gameplay enhancements, and a good gameplay rebalance mod does still not exist.
>General gameplay enhancements, and a good gameplay rebalance mod does still not exist.

People are too busy porting weapons and armors from other games, making settlement blueprints and CBBE slider mods to make good mods for this game.

Hold on, I have something perfect for this thread

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There we go

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The is the best Fallout game prove me wrong.

protip: you can't.

>>377445992
>p-please stop making fun of my garbage game!

Fuck off you weak pathetic runt.