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>there is no perfect MMOR-

Also, only 72 hours of ping shit flinging left until we also start hating Yoshida's revamp for ruining our main.
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Is there a way to see the attack the target is doing to the party member you're targeting? It'd be nice to prepare for tankbusters without using visual cues or switching to the boss.
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>>377418878
>3 days until live letter
>have to deal with burger complaining about ping until then
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>>377418878
This game is so fucking boring holy shit I bought it twice, kill me please
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>>377419041
Right click, Focus Target.
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>>377419041
Focus Target the boss
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Biggest Pro and Con about Stormblood so far?
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Any tips for leveling crp/alc desynth in the level 100 range? I wanted to get it to around 200 for stormblood, but I feel like that is going to be a massive pain in the ass.

200 should be a safe bet for early SB items right?
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>ffxi has worse graphics than ffx
>ffxiv has worse graphics than ffxiii
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>>377419140
>>377419198
Thank you
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LET ME PLAY NIN AGAIN
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>>377418878

I tried getting it to work on my PS4 for like a week, but it just kept saying 'Patch failed' when the game tried updating from the launcher.

Up yours, Square Enix. So glad I was only trying the free trial, cause I'd be so salted if I'd spent money on that.
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>7 A12S books
>last 10 farm parties I joined couldn't kill it
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>>377419254
>Pro
Not-Yda is the main girl.

>Con
Not-Yda may get the same "whole new character on old model/name" update that Thancred got, effectively killing her character (and also SB's "biggest pro").
Well, at least the new villain is cute.
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>>377419713
SKIP SOAR OR DISBAND
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>>377419758
I meant gameplay wise, not shit like story or characters or even music.
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>>377419254
>PLD buffs

>no stacking buffs on UI which is fine because we don't need it until 4.1
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>>377419713
>All jobs in full i270
>16 pages stocked up for SAM/RDM
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>>377419914
Nothing, time to unsub the game
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>>377419914

It's not like we know anything.
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>>377419914
>shit like [...] music
Are you talking shit about mai waifu Soken?

Also, we know pretty much nothing about SB's gameplay, we are waiting for the next live letter and media tour to reveal all that shit.
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>>377419713
Skip soar is old and busted, BEST COAST OR KICK is the new hotness.
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How long is the pre-release? One week?
Is it counted into patch cycle? Meaning we get Omega two weeks after or with the pre-release?
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>>377419713
>want to farm 12s
>even expert is difficult with the awful ping
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>>377418878
>>there is no perfect MMOR-

There used to be, but Firefall went under.
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>>377420916
4 days.
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>>377419758
Well she's not having to pretend to be a scholar anymore so she'll likely seem much less clueless than before.
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>>377419758
>effectively killing her character
In fairness, she wouldn't have much of a character to kill.
But yeah, I worry SB Yda/Lyse/whogivesashit is going to be all GRRR SERIOUS MUH MHEEGO and we'll miss the bits of air-brained but earnest levity she used to bring.
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>>377419254
Pro
>big dose of new story content
Con
>absolutely nothing has changed about the game fundamentally since 2.1, except now we're getting less new content (only slower and of lower quality)
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>>377421757
>absolutely nothing has changed about the game fundamentally since 2.1
Enlighten me, what fundamental change did 2.1 bring?
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Raids should have 4 tanks (2 in party B) and just 14 DPS.
This lets them do more interesting mechanics.
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They should let us change jobs in instances, maybe make it a vote thing if needed (X wants to change job, PLD_icon -> WAR_icon), or don't allow changing role.
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>>377421757
I'd love for XIV to go back to 2.x patch quality/quantity, but I'd settle for just better than 3.x patches.
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I just want to know how much more in place BLM is gonna be in the next expansion, Yoshi pls
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>>377422301
An interesting idea, if nothing else.
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>>377422397
4.1 has a really low bar to clear compared to 3.1 in that case. And it's already ahead in that supposedly
there's not gonna be a six month layoff this time between 4.0 and 4.1.
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>>377422581
>there's not gonna be a six month layoff this time between 4.0 and 4.1.

I'm so happy.
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inb4 the revamp change absolutely nothing beside taking off IR/Second wind from WAR and Raging strike from BLM
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>>377421925
PvP
Not that the PvP isn't garbage but it rewards gear in a manner other than raiding or grinding the same dungeons over and over.

Also it had 3 dungeons to farm tomes. Only 2 makes me want to kill myself.

>>377422397
That's a pretty low bar. To say ARR saved SE I think we deserve a B team churning out content so the patches aren't as anaemic.
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>>377422581
>4.1 has a really low bar to clear compared to 3.1
I still don't know how I didn't just quit the game back at 3.1
Lot of friends did. I guess Thordan EX managed to barely starve off the shitshow that was Diadem, Lords of Verminion and Void Ark.
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>>377422301
>They should let us change jobs in instances, maybe make it a vote thing if needed (X wants to change job, PLD_icon -> WAR_icon), or don't allow changing role.

Not allowing to change role is largely pointless because dungeon instances aren't difficult enough to warrant this and real raids are basically just one boss room.
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>>377422736
I honestly hope the revamp is a meme and almost nothing changes. I don't want change. They'd screw it up somehow.
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>>377421556
She was dumb but in a cute way, always trying to solve things by punching them as hard as possible until a "fixed" message popped on top of it. A very simple personality, but still someone enjoyable to have around.
And you could say the same about Thancred's "lack of personality", and yet they found a way to completely kill everything about him, just to create a whole new character and slap "Thancred" on top of his dialogue window.
I'm expecting some "personality changes" due to recent events, I just don't want it to be as radical as Thancred's changes. Alphinaud had a very natural character development, I just hope Not-Yda gets the same route since she will be our main travelling companion.
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>>377422747
I wouldn't call that a fundamental change. I'd pair it with additional shit like Diadem, extra content but no fundamental changes.

The WAR changes and class rebalancing would've been closer but not quite fundamental.
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>>377422581
I hope there's more to 4.0. Having shit content at launch and not anything proper until 4.1 is still going to suck, even if they pump out 4.1 fast
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>>377423039
HUNTS
like CUNTS
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>>377422914
We'll get to spend a lot of time with Not-Yda, so maybe there's hope. Trying to do character development through patches probably ain't the best course of action. Maybe one day Thancred will be relevant again, but I kind of doubt it. Same with Ayylmeric. Y'shtola will be wit us forever though. Krile might fuck off or die though.
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>>377422914
You're an idiot. Thancred always had a personality and has had the most development of any Scion since 1.0. What's happened to him in Heavensward was a natural development of his depression about losing Louisoix and not being good enough to fill his shoes. Then his weakness was the thing that allowed him to be possessed by Lahabrea and resulted in the slaughter at the Waking Sands. Now he's lost his daughter figure that he was watching over for 15 years, stolen away and made into a puppet by the thing he was fighting to protect. His change was a gradual, realistic development of everything that he's gone through since 1.0. You just never fucking paid attention.
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>>377419490
It happened to me, just delete the game and then re download. Worked just fine after.
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>Omega 1 Savage will be as hard as A8S
>Mfw watching creator babies cry
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>>377422914
>I just hope Not-Yda gets the same route.

It feels like she already has. In 1.x and 2.x Yda was this ridiculously bubbly and almost ditsy Arcon who happened to be good at fighting. Once they shifted her to 3.x they made her a million times more serious and it was blatantly obvious in 3.4 they were killing off her ditsy side and replacing it.

By the end of 3.56 she's totally serious and now Lyse, so they basically pulled a Thancred with her.
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>>377423232
Ain't gonna happen.
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If you didn't wish for your Anima to be able to choose it's own destiny you are officially a faggot.
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>>377422950
What I'd like is for them to add a support role to the DF, add a new support class and rejigger machinist and bard into being proper supports, to implement a system of procs/effects and add horizontal progression to endgame by diversifying the number of endgame activities beyond just raid/dungeon.
But that won't happen.
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>>377422795
>I still don't know how I didn't just quit the game back at 3.1
I don't know how people still played after a month of 3.0
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>>377423296
I'm gonna sell it for another weapon during stormblood anyway so it doesn't matter
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>>377423232
First part will be the tightly tuned but not mechanic intensive fights.

Second part will be mechanic orgies.

Third part will be the easiest one and get even easier with max echo and max ilvl.
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>>377423039
>2 max level dungeons that you'll farm for tomes for 2 weeks (meanwhile the 6 or so leveling dungeons won't be scaled up to max to add variety because that would actually be smart)
>shitty normal mode you'll farm for gear for 2 weeks after that
>savage 2 weeks after that
>2 weeks after savage minor job balance changes and potential nerfs for the first two bosses in savage
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>>377423205
>Krile might fuck off or die though

They better not, she's our resident shota bullier.
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>>377419914
>playing a heavily story driven MMO
>doesn't care for the story
Why are you even here lad?
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>>377423296
Didn't even watch any cutscenes for that shit because they were all

Mysterious guy: HEY CHECK IT OUT NEW EXPERIMENT
Gerolt: I'M DRUNK AND NEED MONEY
Mysterious guy: THIS IS MY INVENTION, THANKS FOR WORK BITCH BOY BTW
Gerolt: NOT MINE
Random NPC: I DEAL IN EXTREMELY COOL INGREDIENTS DESPITE NEVER HAVING BEEN IN THE GAME BEFORE
Both: WOW AMAZING WHAT A WEAPON GOOD JOB

repeat for every step
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>>377422812
I had Alliance raids in mind and the shitty comps you sometimes get.
If we get 2 SCHs, I'd like to swap to AST.
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>>377423515
>Alliance raids
lol, gay
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>>377423460
This is really spot on
I feel like they could have made the Anima series so much better if they actually involved the anima helping with us on more specific tasks or something rather than just slapping on the same shit with Gerolt
Either way it was miles better than the Zodiac questline was
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>>377423394
DELETE
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>you gain the effect of swiftcast
>you cast blizzard 4
>you lose enochian
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>>377423581
>Either way it was miles better than the Zodiac questline was
In what way? It was just the same tasks rehashed in a different order. Grind tomes to buy shit now. No wait grind lights now. No wait run dungeons now. No wait grind tomes again now.

Some guy did 13 of these things. Jesus fuck how much more conditioned by Yoshi could you possibly get.
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my finals are almost done, I can play again next week and prepare for sb.
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>They'll change BLM to only have one thunder spell but won't change the spell effect to actually look like a thunder spell

;_;

Also
No new summons, never ever
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>>377423902
>No new summons, never ever
But NIN gets a summon now :^)
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>>377423814
>left the game for over a year
>my character was all alone that whole time
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>>377424027
>>377423902
yes yes, I'm glad these are happening to cuck casters.
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>higher ping
>feels like server delay is shorter though

does this make sense? anyone else feel this way?

did some mechanics last night and it felt like I had more time to escape aoes
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Who else /leveling just one job/ here?
Altjobs aren't content.
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>>377424027
Too bad no human can play NIN now.
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>>377424202
You're losing it.
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>>377424027
>NIN is a better summoner than SMN and their summon is some stupid Narutp shit

BELIEVE IT!
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I dreamt last night Stormblood was out, and every class got like a welcome pack of the new shit/abilities in SB. Since I'm playing BRD atm I got a mini wooden flute. That's it. goddamnit.
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>>377424498
>Jiraiya is from Naruto
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>>377424279
I seear everyone in these threads suddenly became an east coast NIN main after the server move.
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>>377423206
The "lack of personality" was just to make a point with the previous post about Lyda, I'm not denying he had/have a personality.
>Heavensward was a natural development of his depression about losing Louisoix and not being good enough to fill his shoes.
That probably should have hit him around 2.1, after Lahabrea easily had his way with his body and tried to ruin everything for everyone, but he still was mostly his old self after that, just a bit more apologetic than usual. In HW, he was already pretty gloomy even before anti-tower, unlike the other scions. The only "natural" part of his change was during anti-tower, when his short moment of hope became desperation and then depression.
In the end his change was justified, but it never felt "gradual", unlike Alphinaud's development.
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>>377424567
Also apparently west coast NIN never exist.
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>>377423404
That's literally going to kill my interest after a week

I hope they don't pull the same fucking blunder and if they do, they need to fire that hack Yoshida
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Hype for getting captured by Garlameld and being stepped on by the new villain.
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>>377424567
I really am an east coast nin.
>>377424631
They were certainly not very good.
And now my ping is worse than what they were used to.
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>>377424842
SAME
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>>377414205
bah. I checked and the Femroe in the ARC quest line was a marauder. She's got the same haircut as the conjurer one from the MRD line though
would've been a nice detail if the were the same character
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>STILL 2.5 seconds
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>>377425047
I can't wait. Too bad we'll probably have to kill her.
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>>377425170
Nothing personel kid
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>>377423394
The anima's step skip was really dumb.
>congrats boy you created the ultimate weapon!
>a paywall, an giant update, and dozen of adventures later
>so you need some rocks to create the ULTIMATE weapon right?
>well, I need you to collect some other rocks around Ishgard
>OR you can give me that not-so-ultimate-anymore weapon that is collecting dust on your inventory, that is decent enough too
Progression-wise, it was a fair trade (not much different from turning your Bravura into a Ragnarok, for example), but it was a pretty dumb excuse lore-wise. It would be better if you could give the weapon directly to Gerolt as a way to skip the step and get the anima weapon.
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>>377425047
Worship my feet.
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>>377425723
>>377425047
>>377424842
Degenerates
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>>377425047
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>>377422914
>They hinted it back during this questline
Fuck.
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>>377425821
lick it anon, lick my toes anon. you filthy swine
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>>377425267
I'm not looking forward to the level 70 stat rebalance.
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>>377425723
>>377425834
>like this characters design
>all the artwork for her so far has been this same pose and foot fetish crap
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>>377419713

WEST COAST OR DISBAND
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>>377426215
>Spell speed rescale means back to 3.0 cast times

FUCK I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THIS GODDAMMIT
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>>377419713
How do you farm a12s so easily when groups STILL struggle to clear it? Do you follow a guide you can recommend ?


I just got around to beating normal Alex (easy) and I'm just trying to see how the people in these threads are so good
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>>377426238
>all the artwork for her so far has been this same pose and foot fetish crap
Because that is exactly all we know about her so far.
And it's still better than futa catgirls and lizards in slut glamour or roes with south seas talisman.
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>>377426528
Transfer to JP server.
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>>377426238
>One lewd.
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>>377418878
alright /v/.

What's the worst thing YoshiP could do to your job?
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>>377427103

Remove it. What a dumb question.
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>>377427103
Make it more like WHM
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>>377427103
Nothing while giving AST and SCH more utility.
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New player here, about to get started on Heavensward. Is the story good in that expack? The fucking snorefest to get access to Heavensward was good at some key moments, but fuck did I got close to quitting.

Also, is DRK any good? Nearly done leveling it to 50 to start Heavensward with it. It's fun, but is it considered a good tank?
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>>377427103
I dunno, but it's literally perfect right now.
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>>377427103
Have it continue to do less personal damage than other melee dps but also get rid of the debuff that makes the whole party hit harder.
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>>377427201
They already did with HW.
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>>377427236
DRK is the upgrade from PLD, it's fine but it's not amazing.
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>>377427236
HW story is pretty good. You're through the worst of it, the ARR quests are by far the worst because they drag on for so fucking long.

And DRK is pretty good.
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>>377427103
Move the servers away and ruin my mudras. Oh, wait.
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>>377427103

Making DRG as frustrating as it is with NIN and DRK to manage oGCDs with my new ping. Yes the classes are still playable and it's not crippling but it's still frustrating knowing there's always going to be that ceiling.
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>>377427103
Move the server to commiefornia.
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>>377418878

Why are people hyped for Stormblood?

What sets it apart from Legion?
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I feel genuinely bad for the east coast players. I ended up quitting because I played NIN in 2.5 and couldn't take the broken mudra timing any more. I just ran into a dead end and saw the limitations of online rotation based MMOs. If you're not near a server you're at a massive disadvantage. It's just not fair or fun to know you can never be the best.

lol that's why I took up fishing before I quit. Made a ton of gil and was the first on my server to catch all types of fish as well the Of Dragon's Deep title. Eh at least I was the best in something before I quit.
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>>377427519
that ear so long and pointy that's it looks so unhealthy
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>>377427479
Fucking please. They already said they won't make rotation any harder than it currently is.

It's only downhill from here on.
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>>377427519
It's literally going in WoW's footsteps because they can't come up with anything themselves.
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>>377427519
It's a good game, unlike Legion. Not hard to figure out.
>No retard dev team
>Actual content
>No AP grind
>Actually difficult raids
>Not dead
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>>377427441
3.0 is pretty good. 3.X is back to bullshit.
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>>377427601
It always makes me happy to see less /v/ is playing ffxiv.
This game need less memers.
Soon ffxiv will be bad enough to chase away these tryhards, then we can have a more slow pace and peaceful ffxi/v/ threads.
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>chance on three lines
>however no line completed
>get the last two stickers
>no line
KHLOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
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>>377423747
>Jesus fuck how much more conditioned by Yoshi you could you possibly get.

this is underlying proof that you clearly didn't play the game at all because any non-autist would be able to tell you that Anima was LEAGUES better than Zodiac was because it was way less grind intensive and had less bullshit mechanics

Reading comprehension retard, I'm not saying that the Anima questline was the peak of game design, I'm saying it was better than Zodiac because it was. Zodiac had godfucking awful steps like the books, the light grind (which was a million times worse than Animas), endless dungeon fishing, fucking atma grinding.

Zodiacs questline was fucking awful because it involved way more grinding for results that were almost always completely reliant on RNG. Anima was grindy in parts but at least you could always make steady process on it, despite it being a grind. Play the game before you open your mouth, retard
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>>377427961
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The hype level i'm currently at for Stormblood is actually unhealthy. I had so much fun playing for fucking 15 hours straight when Heavensward came out and i can't wait to do it again
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>>377427961
If you want to gamble for three lines always reroll until you have two. That's an 8% chance of three lines, everything else is <1%.
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>>377428069
The initial leveling experience is definitely something I look forward to. Here's hoping that the raid is good unlike Gordias.
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If you niggers want to know what Twintania looks like when ported into Counterstrike

>mfw i could have a Shinryu boss playable in counterstrike before its playable in XIV but i won't do it
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>>377427860
Please don't tell me there's a shit ton of quest to unlock Stormblood next

I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD IF I SEE "SPEAK TO ALPHINAUD" ONE MORE GOD DAMN TIME
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>>377427842
>Actual content
Which is? 2 dungeons? Legion keeps 12 dungeons as actual content continuously while offering a scaling difficulty mode. It started with 8, added 2 shortly in, then another longer dungeon (split into 2) and then one more
>No AP grind
Yeah AP grind is shit but it's no different from people voluntary grinding tomestones, altjobs, relics and other useless stuff. The only difference is that AP is actually required, but they offer just as many catchup mechanics there so who gives a shit
>Actually difficult raids
LOL most Creatorbabies would be devastated by Mythic Helya and Mythic Nighthold is about as difficult as Savage, the only difference is that the difficulty is spread around ten bosses instead of one boss being like a huge mechanics cake
>Not dead
(You)
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>>377428069

The first week of the expansion was great. It's just a shame it dips pretty quickly in with the brief spikes when normal and savage are opened up.
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>>377428189
Neat, I guess?
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>>377427842
>No retard dev team
>Actual content
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>>377427601
I always had trouble with my mudra, even at 50ms they felt kind of sluggish, but at 130ms ninja is legit unplayable.
Getting told by potd mains and west coasters that never touched ninja in their lives that the game is designed for 200ms is so frustrating.
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>>377428205
You better get grinding if you just reached HW and want to do SB story quests on release.
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Dragonsong > Answers > Revolutions

CHILDREN OF THE LAND DO YOU HEAR?
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>>377426528
Xeno guide.
And practice. I learned you can see HP of towers after 14 A11S clears.

You can ask around here for help, Anons are probably bored as heck and will help you learn.
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>>377428409
TO ALL OF MY CHILDREN > CHILDREN OF THE LAND DO YOU HEAR?
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>>377428214
>people completely shit on Legion
>yet some of the things about it actually sound legitimately appealing

Honestly, is it just that the AP grind is so bad that it ruins what should be a legitimately good expansion?
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>>377427201
Post more fairies
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>>377428481
It's more than that. The class design is garbage, almost everything is completely unfun to play.
Loot is randomized in stats like Diablo 3, and legendaries drop, like in Diablo 3. Except in an MMO they're fucking mandatory for raiding. So good fucking luck finding one.

Story sucks, graphics suck, game sucks.
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>>377428409
>Dragonsong War
>Theme is called Dragonsong
>It plays during the Nidhogg fight, the last fight in the war
>Nidhoggs ultimate attack is called "Final Chorus"
P O T T E R Y
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>>377428481
AP grind and legendaries.
AP grind is just a very blatant carrot on a stick and legendaries are a legitimately awful mechanic where you can get screwed over long-time by RNG. Both mostly matter only at highest level of play but since WoW generally has more stuff like random passives and traits (through trinkets and now the legendaries and the artifact) there's a lot more variativeness in DPS based on your gear than there is in XIV.
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>>377428069
>>377428216
>>377428183
There's nothing quite like that first week or so. Here's hoping it's at least as good as Heavenward with no Moogle like shit.
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>>377428583
SCH fairy glamors when
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>running 24 mans for shillings
>weeping city
>get to first spiderlady boss
>wipe

I'll wait out my penalty by masturbating.
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>>377428756
What kind do you want? I'd like some colour choice, Ive seen some people wanting little angels, which I don't care much for.
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>>377423206
Oh I paid attention all right, to how shit of a character he was in ARR and how he somehow got even WORSE in HW. He didn't lack personality before, it was simply trash and one-dimensional. And then he disappeared for half the game. And then the deaths of all your "friends" that you carried out by hand? His fault because he was a punk bitch. And he never shows any remorse beyond a few quick lines of dialogue.

Come HW and where is he? Not dead, unfortunately. He's spent months apparently naked in a fucking forest, growing out his rat-tail haircut and fashioning xbox-huge knives out of obsidian instead of doing ANYTHING useful. And then he reveals that it's his fault Minfilia's chump dad died, so if you cared at all about her non-existent character then there's another mark against him. And THEN he punches Emmanelain in what might be the most frustrating chain of events in the game, and we don't have any choice but to nod our head and pretend to sympathize with him.

In short, no, Thancred doesn't have anything resembling character development, because it was always trash and what we have now is worse than trash. He's a piece of shit and the game has the gall to make like we're friends, as well as to refuse to hold him anywhere close to accountable for how shitty he is and has always been.
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>>377428841
Just wait until Tuesday
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>>377428861
Something like in Hyrule Warriors for 3DS would be ideal, but simply a handful of different skins would be fine. But that's too much work they'd rather work on bunny suits for guys which takes 6 months.
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>>377428861
I like angels myself so I guess that. But I'd also like something like a node more. More technological looking thing
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>>377428756
Probably a pet that isn't so feminine.

Something that a gentleman scholar would have likena flying lizard.
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>>377429036
>gentleman scholar

>>>/r/eddit
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>>377418878
>72 hours before we start complaining about changes

are they announcing what theyre gonna change for every job?
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>>377428756
>Tactics Ogre fairy
>Bravely Default fairy
Fuck your red carbuncle
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>>377429036
>having a Tinkerbell following your orders isn't gentlemanly
Ha, gay
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>>377428981
>But that's too much work they'd rather work on bunny suits for guys which takes 6 months.
Real talk though the devs probably didn't care about the male bunny suit shit THAT much themselves, which is why they kept saying "we're working on it" over and over.
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>>377428874
>And then he reveals that it's his fault Minfilia's chump dad died
This line right here proves you don't know what the hell you're talking about. He blames himself, but that's not what actually happened. The fact that this was even news to you means you don't give a shit about the story and only pay half attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD45euKWO1U

>And THEN he punches Emmanelain in what might be the most frustrating chain of events in the game
How the fuck is this not justified? Rich fuccboi screws up and then whines about how hard it is to be rich and that Thancred doesn't understand suffering just moments after he lost his pseudo daughter.
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>>377427519
Why do WoWfugees keep coming into these threads?
Is their game that bad?
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>>377429208
Personally I look at WoW and see some simple fixes that could be applied to XIV to make it a better game without having anything that makes WoW bad right now.
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>>377429092
>>377429131

Can you get any more normalfag cancer than this?
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>>377429208
there's no wow threads on /v/
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>>377429208
I tried going into WoW thread while I was trying it out (got to around level 70)

The thread was like 80% shitting on WoW itself. If you think FFXIV self hating shit was bad, WoW takes it to another level.
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>>377428756
>>377428861

i dont get why they gave carbuncles to SMN only.

ACNs have a lot more in common with SCH than SMN
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>>377429290
Now that you mention it, what happened to Legion? I remember seeing lots of Legion threads for a while. Wasn't it doing a lot of things better from WoD?
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>>377429208
Could it be because the success of FFXIV is literally because of WoW?

Retard.
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>24-man
>see a carbuncle in melee range
>see titan's earth spikes pop up
>mfw
You think you're being sneaky, but I'm on to your shenanigans.

Though I do wish there was an incentive to use all three egis. With three SMN in a party there should be a reason to have one of each egi out rather than three garudas, like how with two SCH one would have selene and the other eos, or with AST with one in diurnal and one in nocturnal.
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I like the new song, but Im getting tired of hearing the same old traditional classical theme. I hope we can get the old nostalgic Ada wong songs back. Why can't we have another Eye on Me 90s like songs in ff again? ;___;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oQv3leISYU
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>>377429461
The faerie is important to the SCH lore. Egis are exactly the same things as Carbuncles, but built based on primal aether instead of gemstones.
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>>377418878
Here's what I'm hoping for dark knight changes

>Delirium no longer is overwritten by dragon kick, has new effect maybe otherwise remove monk please thanks
>dark arts either uses hp now or has more uses other than mainly the dps combo
>soul eater ACTUALLY heals a substantial amount now (alternatively, heals more when in grit)
>turn dark arts soul eater into a big man heal move and make either delirium combo or emnity combo the highest damaging one.
>let us use blood weapon in grit jesus christ
>reprisal and low blow proc off something other than parries
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>>377429545
The Diablo 3 team turned it into Diablo 3 that you pay a sub for

That is, lots of RNG, stupid overpowered items, busted as fuck game balance all controlled by a greasy greek piece of shit and some tranny who plays the game on a tablet.
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>>377429779
*Faye
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>>377429545
Endgame is shit like always, so people dumped it. Blizzard isn't supporting it, so there's absolutely no reason to play.

Some will return for the next expansion, but I'm done with it. MoP tricked a lot of people into playing again, but this is two fuck-ups in a row. You don't come back from that.
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>BLM with 120ms
>MFW hearing about the server move and getting excited that maybe my ping will improve
>Still 100+ ping because lol let's stuff the data center for the entirety of North America into fucking Sacramento
>All my friends are talking about jumping ship to another data center due to their increased ping
>MFW the server move has ruined everything
Thanks you double niggers
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>>377429614
No need to be so upset. Come play with us, maybe you'll have fun
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>>377429790
>dark arts uses hp

This fucking anon is figuring out how to KILL DRK with one simple trick...
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>>377429779
I think it might work if SE lore staff introduce a new main Character in the next who can sing song and then maybe they can implement her song as the next main theme too. Garlean Empire seem to be modern so maybe that might happen.
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>>377429859
>MoP tricked a lot of people into playing again
MoP was actually pretty good though. Literally one of the best raid tiers.
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>>377429875
Yuropoor?
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>>377430037
That's his point.
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Is Lyse XIV's Terra?
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>>377429787
they still summon them based on what theyre thinking though, right?

arent selene and eos just our magicks, like carbuncles and egis are?
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>>377430037
That's exactly how it tricked people.
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>>377430010
F'lhaminn is already a famous songstress
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>>377429875
Designed for 220ms even though it was designated by japs for japs at 20ms.
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>>377430059
New Jersey. I live in the woods with a fucking DSL line, not even fiber optics. So not only can I not get better internet but this data center move made everything worse, even moreso for my friends
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>>377429982
I came back to FFXIV a month ago, friend. Even if I don't enjoy game, playing a new launch with buddies is a lot of fun
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>>377429875
Why do people care so much about their ping in a non-fps game? Anything less than 200 ping in a hotbar based MMO is pretty great especially if you are accessing the servers from Europe or something.
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>yfw Cleric Stance is removed from dungeons
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>>377430095
Selene and Eos are both different forms of one faerie, Lily. Faeries are like much more advanced constructs that the Nymians realized they could bind to soulstones. By doing that, the faeries would retain information, grow, and build a personality so they could be perfect assistants. So Lily is something you're calling out of your soulstone, and not something you're building at the moment of summoning like Egis and Carbuncles.
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>>377429859
>Endgame is shit like always
Legion has great raids
Only Warcraftlogs fags are complaining
Oh wow doesn't that seem familiar
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>>377429779
>tfw Eyes on Me can be play in eternal bond ceremony.
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>>377430095
Selene and Eos are an actual living entity in one. Scholar summons it in the LB.

Pretty sure they are treated very differently to Egi's since as far as summoning goes, they are a full summon, like summoning the primal itself and not the Egi.

I assume carbuncles work the same but they don't use healing magic
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>>377430106
Fucking people in Ultros trying to defend this shit by mocking others with fucked ping and claiming "The game is designed to be run at 300ms"
I can play Overwatch at 300ms but that doesn't mean I'll play WELL
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>>377428205
No, I think there's like a total of 40 quests post Heavensward unlike the 100 between ARR and HW.
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>>377418878
What happens in 72 hours?
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>>377429859
>You don't come back from that.
Legion was back up to 10m subscribers, like, they don't even have to worry

Next expansion will easily put them up to 8m+
again. Selling that many copies for a soon 13 year old game is huge
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>>377430205
>he plays and pays a monthly sub for a game he doesn't enjoy
please explain
I thought this was a meme.
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I really hope the MSQ of 4.0 doesn't get segwayed into another Ascian plot. I don't dislike the Ascians or anything and I know that everything that has happened in the game's history is supposed to lead into the return of Zodiark, but they should really save it for the post-MSQ plotline.
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>>377430383
OMG WHO IS THIS GIRL SHE IS SO CUTE??
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>>377430416
An MMO's goal should be to retain those 10m subscribers. WoW can barely hold 1m.
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>>377430275
Because I should be punished for not living in Commiefornia by having delay when dodging AoEs forcing me to either drop enochian or eat a metric fuckton of damage, right?
Fuck off, not everyone can afford high income living
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>>377430383
The last Liveletter before Stormblood.
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>>377430190
Are you guys gonna move to EU servers?
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>>377430105
>F'lhaminn
Too bad her age is up and now she stuck in a rut called the scion base helping them run a bar.
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>>377430556
>last live letter

No E3 live letter?
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>>377430275
Do you play ninja you dumb faggot
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>>377430521
>An MMO's goal should be to retain those 10m subscribers
In 2017 with a saturated and a genre on life support? no chance

Selling 10m copies while having millions of subscribers is very good

>WoW can barely hold 1m.
Uh, what? WoW has millions of subs, last they reported Legion was slightly more active than WoD, which had around 3.5m+ subs
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>>377430608
I honestly don't know, I hope this shit gets resolved without needing a transfer because my ping is actually WORSE in the EU center.
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>>377430553
Boohoo your dps isn't is 100% optimal anymore, learn to fucking adjust then.
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>>377430712
E3 starts two days before SB EA, so if they have a Liveletter then it will only be about reading patchnotes.
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>>377430982
Learn to suck my dick.
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>Fairy lore is important so they can't give us the same thing as SMN
>Meanwhile we still summon Eos and Selene using Garuda and Titan animation even though it makes no sense

Really fires up your neurons
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>>377429279
Like what?

Please don't say faster gcd, please..
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>>377431020
E3 is like the week of EA. EA is the Friday. I'd be shocked if they don't have an E3 event.
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>>377429809
>and some tranny who plays the game on a tablet.
Wait what?
I heard about this, but I always assumed it was shtposting since it's so unreal.
Did the main dev for WoW really play on a tablet?!
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>>377430746
>muh mudras meme again
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>>377430296
The day they do this is the day I stop playing healer.
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Why must Dun scaith be so horribly boring, jesus christ I dont even want to do it once a week for the gear
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how do you leave an instance and rejoin?

i swear i did it once but idk how
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>>377431273
Muh mudra
Muh swiftcast
Muh double weave
Muh aoe
Game is not fun above 50ms FUCK YOU full shire shitter.
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>>377430521
WoW generates between minimum of $500m up to a billion revenue per year.

It's not going anywhere, and it for sure doesn't have lower than 1m subs based on revenue.
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>>377431343
Do it on the EU servers.
The wipes make it less boring.
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>>377431441
>$500m up to a billion

that's an oddly wide range
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>>377431435
delete this
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Fordola will be the most interesting character, mark my words.

The entire concept of

>born during occupation
>all she knows is that her people lost
>she submits and does what she can to make a living in a garlean world
>she's fucking hated for it by both her own people and the garleans despite none of it being her fault
>mfw that clash against Gundobald in the Revolutions trailer
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>>377418878
>start hating Yoshida's revamp for ruining our main

Joke's on you anon, he already ruined my main last expansion! :^(
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>>377431226
>Like what?
M+
Larger raids with flexible party sizes
Meaningful materia/enchants
Rewards for skill at PvE
Non-shit events in the open world

Also crafting needs a huge fix but I don't think WoW's system of earning recipes and then pressing one button to craft is good either.
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>>377429279
all i can think of honestly is:

>being able to select the quantity you want to buy in the market board
>0.2s refresh rate instead of 0.3s
>deletion of accuracy
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>>377431595
BRD?
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>>377431435
Lalafel ruins it.
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>>377422914
I think what they did with Alphinaud was great

I think making a character that people originally hate, and then making them grow to like him is better than just starting off with a character people like

Alphi's growth makes him the best character we know so far.
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>>377431485
Seeing people run to Scathach after she rushes to do her big aoe attack always makes me smile
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>level 44 SCH
>just going to bail to AST if they fuck SCH up
What are the odds both will be ruined?
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>>377431235
It literally is on the same days as maintenance and EA. E3 starts on the 14th, ends on the 16th.
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>>377431302
I think everyone would. Funny as that the intention is that more people would go healer.
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>>377427149
if he removed PLD that would be the best thing to happen to that job
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>>377431757
I wish I could still enjoy the game but being rooted 90% of the time kills it for me.
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>>377431435
Is that Rou Rou?
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>>377432019
Probably.
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>>377431975
Asking just in case but, are you using Feint?
It get boosted by Minuet but doesn't require cast time, so it's nice to use while you have to move.
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>>377431594
Florida is the hero we need, but not the one we deserve.
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>>377431862
having two WHMs in the same party is an absolute fuck up, so you'll be safe.
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>>377431573
well
amount of copies sold combined with a sub fees, it's somewhere between there and that's not counting sold services and shit like mounts/pets
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>>377432101
I never really tried that. The other thing is that it completely threw off the flow of the job. Weaving oGCDs is nothing like it used to be.

Not actively playing anymore. FC fell apart to drama shortly after 3.0
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>>377427869
>cat eats egg sandwiches every day

ha ha i bet her farts smell gross can you even imagine what taking a big whiff would be like ha ha
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>>377431975
Your cast times are 1.5 seconds and your GCD is 2.5 seconds. You have 1 full second to move after your shot not counting stutter stepping during a cast.

in short git gud.
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>>377432331
mine just broke thanks to drama and ill probably start stormblood with nothing in certain
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>>377432443
Stock up on exp booster scrolls in squadron.
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>>377431863
The booths start on the 13th but the conferences and shit start Sunday.
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>>377419713
>join A12S
>dps are circle jerking about muh latency increase so their dps is awful.
>even the Fucking WAR joins in with their inner release/Berserk weave absolutely destroying their dps.
>go in and we'll yeah, their dps is pretty bad.
>constant bitching and blaming
>check their logs
>the Drg went down about 200, the NIN lost 35, BLM was around the same and the Fucking WAR actually went up by 30 dps
>can still clear it since everyone knows puddles (because they probably never been able to skip it) but they're all blaming low dps on latency.

Gonna be a long drought
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>>377432403
>You have 1 full second to move
Exactly, you have 1 full second to move when previously you had 2.5.

You don't just take away a core design feature of a job and tell people to git gud simply because you're incapable of designing fights around people having both range and mobility.
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>>377431343
Dun Scaith is fun for me though. Deathgaze is always hilarious, Scathach chews through morons, and watching Diabolos Hollow rip and tear through the alliance is kinda great.
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>>377431046
Server transfer then you whiny little bitch, or adapt and stop complaining.
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>>377432769
>Diabolos Hollow
>When you tank
>When your healers are new
Sweet, sweet suffering.
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>>377432786
Server transfer where you dumb fucking corporate dick sucker? I am north american.
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>east coast has to learn the game again
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>>377432850
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>>377432786
he won't do any of those things because it's easier to be a little bitch than to git gud
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AS SHOWN HERE
>>377428189


I am making a Counterstrike Zombie Escape map featuring Twintania as a bossfight. Of the 4 bosses, I have already selected 3 for implementation.

However, I think it'd be awesome for the XIV communty to vote their favorite or most wanted boss for implementation as the 4th. I need a boss idea for a wind-themed boss, or a boss capable of wind attacks, even if they can't do them in XIV proper.

You can choose any boss in the game, even one from the story, keep in mind this is going to be an extremely difficult map (even harder than current savage, more in like with SCOB Savage in difficulty) so if you thought a boss was too easy in the main game this might be a good chance to vote for it.
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>>377431717
Hit rating/Accuracy is literally the worst invention of men.

There's no variety. It's just a "throw your attribute points into the trash up to this point".
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>>377433168
>Wind theme boss
>Somehow Garuda doesn't come in your mind immediatly
Maybe you should check reddit instead.
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>>377433168
Shinryu
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>>377433030
>Implying I wasn't at 100+ ping before
>Implying the big thing that fucks me isn't everyone I know that plays this game fleeing to another data center because of this shit
I'm used to things being awful but not everyone had terrible internet and now they're suffering because of the move.
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>>377424682
>if they do, they need to fire that hack Yoshida
>Just now realizing Yoshida is a hack
You disappoint me.
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NEW EU SERVER WHEN
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>>377433274
Garuda lacks a wow factor personally, I don't find the boss visually appealing to look at and it doesn't really look threatening. It's not quite the look i'm going for.
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>>377432769
>mfw watching all the idiots falling off the airship before "void blizzard IV" phase
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>>377431594
>GLA/PLD
>interesting
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>>377420961
>tfw there are people out there who have played with this ping, or worse, since the very beginning
>tfw statistically at the very least one of them was still outperforming you back then
How does that make you feel?
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>>377427842
>>No retard dev team
Anon I..
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>>377426871
who's the artist?
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138ms to fucking 14ms. bloodstorm is going to be gooood
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>>377427103
Raise my ping from 20 to 100 so I couldn't play it well.

Oh wait.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjzQdX3VBeA
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>>377433732
fucking sad m8 real fuckin sad
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>>377433663
It's not as big if difference as most memers believe. Once you get used to it, the difference is minimal.
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TWO

WEAVES
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>>377434241
>Once you get used to slower response times it's not that bad really
Once you get used to that Japanese dick in your mouth it will be even better.
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>dont play shitty themepark mmo
>suddenly not mad at trivial terrible mmo thats only good for fan service
i play ESO, it has quests worth doing, you have fun grinding fates or w/e the fuck, with your character being a bystander to all of existence
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>>377422747
ARE saved them in the sense that it's not complete balls. They're still fucking incompetent.
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>>377434324
TWO WEAVES!?
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>>377433445
>I don't find the boss visually appealing to look at
You're looking from the wrong angle then.
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>>377434384
I'm sorry you can no longer parse green, but it's not lags fault
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>>377427103
>We thought Scholar was a job with too much of everything so we deleted Indomitability
>Also the Astrologian's Aspected Helios shields are now even better than Scholar's Succor's, making it even more useless
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>tfw grinding everything to 35 before committing

On one hand, hand and land are a bitch.
On the other, I'm glad I'm not paying to do this.
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>>377418878
>XIV
>Perfect
>Would make this post even if you implied it was just "good"
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>>377431657
I don't see how M+ would change anything.
Larger raids do exist, but I don't see it being end game.
I can agree with more meaningful Materia and MAYBE enchants.
I believe they want to look into a "Challenge Mode" or "Challenge achivements"
Open World events are hard to pull off, even in WoW.

Crafting fix? How so? Its really fun and can be like a puzzle sometimes, until endgame then it's just 80% success spam.
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>>377434149
Yay
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>>377434716
not that anon but the fact that you need every single crafter on 50 to start crafting anything at max level is really a bad thing

also its frustrating how luck basically dictates the crafter gameplay
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>>377434241
The whole point is there are people out there who have had it worse, haven't complained a single time and on top of that have outperformed your every day ping memer even when the memer's ping was at it's best.

They should probably think about that and consider getting good instead of whining.
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>>377434872
>love fairies
>hate being a healer
minions on instances when
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>>377434716
>I don't see how M+ would change anything.
A bit of variety which FFXIV lacks heavily in when you spam 2 dungeons at max level.
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>>377434958
this should be stickied for every self entitled east coaster to read in every FFXIV thread.
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>>377434201
google search and iqdb yield zero results. Fuck off.
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>>377435330
lol so forever alone
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>>377433663
>statistically at the very least one of them was still outperforming you back then
Yeah, at least ONE.
Because theres no way more than 10 people would be a better nin than me at 200 ping.
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>>377434716
>I don't see how M+ would change anything.
M+ is a great PVE fix for smaller parties. I don't know how to incentivize it without pissing of casualbabbies but the whole concept of scaling dungeon difficulties with stacking disrupting mechanics on a time limit is great.
>Larger raids do exist, but I don't see it being end game.
They really don't. 24-men aren't "large raids". I mean like having a raid with 7-9 bosses, preferably if it was also a single dungeon rather than a bunch of completely separate arenas (it's not normal when casual 24-man LFR borefest feels more like a raid than Savage does). It's just dev laziness.

>Crafting fix? How so? Its really fun and can be like a puzzle sometimes, until endgame then it's just 80% success spam.
Crafting in XIV is absolute garbage. The first and foremost reason is that you make too much shit that you trade in to vendors. You make leveling gear but instead of selling it to players you trade it in for leves because leveling from just making stuff is 100% unviable. At the cap you spend your time crafting for collectibles and crafting for stuff like Zhloe or whatever instead of making things for players. Having some kind of complicated crafting skill rotation may seem interesting on the outset but at the end of the day you're just gonna press the same macro for every single item you make. Also there's no fucking reason consumables should be as hard to create as gear. Also allowing everyone to create everything kills interplayer trading and specialist system did nothing to fix this. Basically crafting needs to be a better support for the game rather than a minigame unto its own.
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>>377434958
And none of them were having fun.
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>>377435552
yes we were
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>>377435668
>ERP-glasses
explain this meme to me
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>>377435552
Who the fuck are you to dictate when and how other people have their fun? What are you, a teenager?
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>>377435710
Not on nin you were not.
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>>377432196
are most people here who only play ffxiv but have never try other mainline ff games?
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>>377435789
>says the guy who is trying to tell people they should be having fun with a downgraded game experience
Hypocrisy at its finest.
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>>377435792
no, mch. and i've cleared all of savage with 260ms ping. git fucking gud you worthless shitter
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Give me my ping back.
It was worth more than 40 item slots.
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>east coasters literally cannot deal with a difference of two hundredths to three hundredths of a second

Inb4 people meme that they LITERALLY had their ping shoot up like 300ms or some other bullshit.
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>>377434716
End game crafting just becomes this horrific chore of gathering items that appear once in a blue moon or pay out the arse for mats and even then most people dont buy what you craft unless its food or potions. Crafting in HW expects you to level all crafters but its never really mentioned. That and its pretty much all reliant on luck.
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>>377436324
Post your fflogs.
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>>377434571
Could you give an example of a "good" MMO? XIV's the only one I've actually enjoyed.
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>>377433296
Shinryu is probably going to be a Stormblood bossfight, in the main story.

It'd probably be boring to see it released so close to its scheduled stormblood release
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>>377434492
Why does a Primal force need to wear underwear?
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>>377435812
played VII, VIII, IX and X

didnt play the rest but will in the future; specially I, IV and VI
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>>377427103
I was thinking he could only make PLD better, but he could do worse.

>That new skill is Flash and it does damage, but has a cast time
>PLD can no longer chain pull without it being weird, or at all
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>>377436324

post your fflogs, anyone can clear the savages when they were relevant as a green baby
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>>377435668
Explain why each picture uses the same face and her charges over $100 for this trash
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>>377436454
Shinryu will be in the Interdimensional Rift just like it was in FFV, why the fuck would it be in the main story
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>>377436038
You have the reading comprehension of someone who just graduated kindergarten, congratulations.

Go ahead and point to a post where I told people to have fun. While you try in vain to justify your shit reading comprehension with facts that don't exist, you'll probably realize what I did say is that people should probably get good instead of whining.

I don't give a fuck if you are having fun or not. If you are not you can go ahead and quit the game for all I care. But if you are gonna stay how about you stop bothering everyone around you with your spoiled tantrum and just get good instead?
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>>377436454
I don't know, I think Shinryu will be a boss at the end of a raid tier. I mean, the raid is the Interdimensional Rift and both Omega and Shinryu were superbosses there.

I imagine we will take out Omega first, then take out Shinryu, and then we find out that their little clash opened the way for a being like Euno to invade Hydaelyn and now we need to take him out for the last tier.
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>>377435552
I'm having fun watching east coast babies crying after having their training wheels removed
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>>377436454
He's gonna be in the 8man raid, stupid
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>>377437293
This is exactly what will happen. We'll also find out the Isle of Val was X-Zoned and hang out with Galuf in there.
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>>377435518
Oh, Mythic Plus, my lack of WoW terminology clearly shows.
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>start the shinryu fight by opening a chest
>later fight him inside the chest
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>>377436395
>Game feels less responsive and thus less fun
>"UH PLEASE GET OVER IT AND STOP INSULTING MY GAME"
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>>377437391
Do you west coast homos play anything else than sucking dicks
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WHO /10 hours of POTD to level SAM on release/ HERE
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>>377436535
Because Ixali don't know what a vagina is, but they have seen catsluts in underwear everywhere in Black Shroud.
And "their" Garuda is the result of a misinterpretation of their own origin. "Garuda" is the name of an allagan military division that used ixali as soldiers, and their leader was a female commander.
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>>377437578
>>377435518
i wasnt aware of what was going on either; thought it was Mature rating

also i remember when they made heroic become mythic... but theres a mythic plus now? how many versions of the exact same raid are there?
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>>377437629
>>377437449
>isle of val got sent to the rift
>cutscene in walking on the beach
>suspicious chest
>you open it
>Shinryu appears, weather turns all stormy and shit

I would fucking explode from hype.
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>FFXIV is the "Perfect MMO"

I think you mixed up "Sterile" with "Perfect
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>>377424202
No I feel like this too its not just u, delay has been shorter
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>>377437840
>Mature rating
So did I

Sure, Savage is there, but having a third, or even a fourth difficulty? I don't think it will work in this game.
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>>377437840
Mythic plus is for dungeons. Every time you clear a mythic plus dungeon, you gain a mythic level. Each level adds a modifier to whatever dungeon you run. You keep clearing mythic plus dungeons and gaining mythic levels until you eventually wipe or run out of time.
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>another day, another Feast
>still getting grouped with the same NIN shitter and the same WHM femc@ cunt who can't play PvP at all
>as always the c@ didn't take the defensive buff and NIN took
>WHM is just standing around
>NIN doesn't try to stealth, also full left GARO
>other team steamrolled us
Getting real sick of this shit, but who knows? They might do it on purpose because the enemy team acted like one I had last night while the other two were in my group.
NIN was Noctis Sora, WHM Serasaphira Miau'the. Chaos server.
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>>377437756
I raid.

Better than crying
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>>377438338
You raid cat boys.
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>>377437698
Tell me how autistic do you have to be to notice a difference so miniscule that if you weren't already aware of the issue you probably wouldn't even notice?
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>>377438493
Because I have eyes, a functioning IQ, and am not currently suffocating on YoshiP's cock.
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>>377437184
You're telling people to stop whining, which is in essence telling them they should be enjoying and having fun with the game despite it being downgraded. You fabricate examples of other people performing to standard with shit ping as an excuse as to why they shouldn't be upset.

>I don't give a fuck if you are having fun or not.
Of course you don't, you self-absorbed self-righteous egotistical cunt.
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>>377427869
omg i love this pic
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>>377437030
>>377437293
>>377437441

I guess I can do Shinryu then. Would be funny if my ideas for fight mechanics end up being similar to how the fight plays out in the raid

Let me do a poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/13000043
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>>377428409
>anything ever beating answers in end of an era
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>>377438409
I wish Pepsi man was a cat boy desu
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>>377431248
https://twitter.com/Celestalon/status/737196586338418688
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>>377437840
>>377438149
Mature rating would definitively improve XIV (or at least give Yoshi seven new castles with all the new cash shop trash for ERPers).
I would love to visit some of these imperial rape camps.
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>tfw west coast
Shieeeet it's the 90s all over again
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>>377428189
thats really great
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>>377438493
>can't even do a proper ninja opener anymore
WOW HOW AUTISTIC DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO NOTICE IT
Go back to sucking futa dicks in uldah bench west coster.
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>>377418878
>forced singleplayer story
>perfect MMO
Eat shit. I regret every minute of the 150 hours I spent just trying to GET TO Heavensward.
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>>377438793
>proper Ninja opener
Oh no you clip, guess that red parse is out of your league now!
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>>377438707
>https://twitter.com/Celestalon/status/737196586338418688
my sides
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Why haven't scholarfags quit yet?

>pet nerf again
>probably a potency nerf all around
>crit bonus on adloquim removed
>new fairy ability is a tether and dies the exact same thing a mousover embrace macro does, except its on a cooldown and forces your fairy on a single person
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>>377438872
what's with wowbabbies and their obsession with skipping content? It's a final fantasy game, no shit it's going to be story driven.
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>>377438793
Literally git gud my man, you should be mashing your skills for your opener during a CD anyways to force it to trigger as soon as it comes up.
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>>377438950
Do you even play this game
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>>377430517
i think shes from kan kore? the ship game
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>>377438707
...I actually feel bad for wowfugees now
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>>377438989
In your dreams cuckboy
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>>377439003
This post. Every time you critizise this piece of shit game. Every single time.

>It's Final Fantasy so it's okay to make a singleplayer game and advertize it like it's an MMO, because Final Fantasy has AMAZING STORIES!!!

Eat shit, all of you.
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>>377438989
>crit bonus on adloquim removed

SOURCE PLEASE

SCH MAIN HERE, IM FINALLY FREE OF RELYING ON RNG BULLSHIT

theyre gonna compensate it somewhere else, right?
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>>377439012
Spamming doesn't do shit, you can't double weave with high ping.
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>>377439003
Because the story is shit and story content is boring and stale
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>>377439157
>implying anyone in the history of the universe has ever relied on crit adlos
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>>377439090
Nothing inherently wrong with ex-WoW players, you get issues when they quit one shitty game and demand that their new home be changed to be like WoW as well as bringing the shitty attitudes and paradigms from the old game over to XIV.

It's no wonder Blizzards games have gone to shit though.

the stereotypical WoW refugee is basically the Californian of the MMO world
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>>377439157
it's speculation nigga, no actual info until next live letter
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>>377439157
It's bullshit.
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>can a tank p-please queue for a12 on primal
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>>377439138
You can pay attention to the story and still play with other people you fucking autist.
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>>377439037
No I just raid log since october
>>
>leveling monk in potd for stormblood

Fuck I forgot how much I hate leveling in this game. Either you've got the main quest that takes forever and gets you max level ages before you even finish it, or you've got asian style grinding of repetitive content.
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Is FFXIV the most shilled game on /v/ ?

It has to be. Any MMO thread is rushed by FFXIV shills. There is basically an "FFXIV General" thread up at all times.
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>>377439138
This post. Every single time you bitch about having to do the story in a story driven game. Every single time.

>>377439209
I agree it's not great and some of the retcons were absolute trash tier (like with the Sultana) but even a cursory look into the game reveals that it's majorly story driven.

I'm not going to go buy a chicken sandwich and then bitch about not having beef on it.
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>>377430010
Macross theme when?
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>>377439396
>still play with other people
You literally can't unless you invite people to tag along for your useless boring ass instanced story steps you have to do to ACCESS CONTENT/DUNGEONS/AREAS/THE WHOLE EXPANSION.

There is no interaction in this game besides the dungeons until endgame.
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>>377439486
>i dont like this game so if anyone is talking about it they must be a shill
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>>377439549
>I'm not going to go buy a chicken sandwich and then bitch about not having beef on it.
You know what they say about food analogies
In the end it all turns to shit
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>>377439562
Man I must have just fucking imagined going through all of the Heavensward story with friends. Thanks for letting me know!
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>>377439486
I don't like the game either, but people discussing it and liking it when we don't doesn't mean that they are shills. People like stuff.
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>>377439245
Was always pretty fun to negate Seph's phase transition with a spread adlo crit when the fight came out.
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>>377439367
i got you bro
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>>377438707
I will never shit on AustinP again.
I won't join his defense force on OF either, though.
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>>377427103
continue to make it obsolete compared to others if the fight has constant break periods, making you lose your stacks every two minutes
fucking A12S
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>>377439486
If you've seen the general on >>/vg/ you'd make threads here too.

Too many fags.

Game discussion is always 100% better on /v/ because you can get differing opinions and advice from other like minded anons who aren't busy looking at their virtual dolls in obsession.\.
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Do you think they will unfuck crafting in 4.0? I find crafting extremely boring but I want to make money.
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>>377439704
So you grouped up to get credit for your instanced story content together. Wow such interaction. Too bad for people who don't want to wait for friends to play the game at all or want to have fun with strangers in an MMO then.
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>>377427103
Nothing, WAR is a shit job with shitty people
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>>377439760
Get better at MNK. The only times you should be losing stacks are for Divine Judgment and coming out of time gates. And PB will be back up for both of those. If you lose your stacks going in, you need to get better.
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>>377439486
>shilled

We have one thread where we discuss the game and you're here to bitch? How many fucking persona threads do we need? How many shitty persona waifu threads do we need? How about the multitude of Senran Kagura threads for each girl every day? How about all the bullshit meme threads that get made with a picture and some stupid one liner? How many fucking blogposts are on the catalog right now?

Learn to fucking filter you stupid newfag faggot or go back to red dit. Every fucking thread you show up to bitch about LE SHILLZ. One thread (1) is not shilling.
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>>377439486
Only if you never visited /v/ during GW2 hype threads. And GW2 isn't even the most hyped or actually shilled game on /v/.
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why is this allowed
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>>377439486
>People that already play and own the game discuss it
>SHILL SHILL SHILL SHILL

Do you know what the words you spout mean?
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>>377439367
Still need one?
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>>377427103
Add more oGCD casted skills.
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>>377439862
Have the mods acted against our XIV threads since that one incident where the thread got moved to /vg/ and it caused a thread war?
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>>377439486
Borderlands.
Mass effect 3
Dragon age 3 (to counter the Witcher 3 threads)
Ironic todposting threads for Bethesda products.

The wow threads for every new expansion feels more Shiller than this game
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>>377440134
XIV players are rich. I get the $3 frozen ones from the store.
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>>377440134
EQ did it better.
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>>377440196
I don't know I wasn't there for that one.

I pretty sure is was an overall negative experience for everybody.
>>
how did they manage to fuck up this game twice lol
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>>377440134
>papa's john

ew
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>>377440394
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>>377439936
figured it might just me being bad but i posted anyway
usually when i lose it during inception or going into timegates i BARELY get off a demolish but the stacks fall off anyway, just gotta get faster i suppose
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>>377440440
Shut up faggot go suck more austin powers dick
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>>377440539
>>
is crafting/desynth profitable at all?
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>>377440592
>Desynth
hell yeah
>crafting
only if you have the time patience and money to fully gear yourself and get all your mats to cut costs
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>>377418878
My main is already ruined by this new shitty ping.

Just waiting to see how they'll ruin DRG.
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>>377440592
yeah but anything substantial requires a big time/money investment
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>>377440369
Some serious shit went down.

The mods deleted the attempt at creating /xiv2/ because in all honesty that is blatantly against the rules. The mods also publicly banned several of the avatarfags from /xivg/ that were inciting shit with the /v/ posters.
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>>377440134
Bruh thanks, could use some pizza right now.
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>>377419372
They're MMORPGs, duh
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>>377440645
>hell yeah
Any advice to make money with desynth?
Is CUL desynth even worth anything?
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>>377440645
>>Desynth
>hell yeah
how does it work exactly? I just level a crafter and then desynth items for materia?
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>>377440763
on my server nobody knows about mastercraft demis
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>>377419490
Use Google's DNS to download. Fixed it for me.

Don't bother, though. The game isn't worth the headache.
>>
>first time doing garuda
>tank doesn't have his fucking job stone yet
>that guy dragoon who just tries to focus the boss and do nothing else
>healer is at least trying but can't keep up with the shitstorm
>dragoon leaves after a lot of wipes and gets replaced with what I'm pretty sure is a mentor who is at least trying to help the tank
>tank just completely fucking ignores him and keeps trying to get us to start the boss until we abandon
I'm fine with a couple of wipes and some trash play when we're all new but jesus fucking christ.
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>>377440703
So that's why /xivg/ is so slow.
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>>377440828
They are worth 34k on Leviathan
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>>377440703
Kek fucking pathetic. The moment they stop receiving attention they go seek it.

Like a moth to an ever angry flame.
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>>377440394
>twice
What was the other time?
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>>377429775
I do this shit all the fucking time. You might've even been in my party. Was it recent?
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>spinning dge
>blood 4 blood
>internal release takes 2 seconds to work
>clip gust slash
Wow....so ..this..is...the power... of the new server....impressive
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>>377439862

Weird how you never say this whenever people here talk about how superior /vg/ is for video game discussion.

I thought /v/ was shit for discussion and only good for shitposting? Shouldn't you XIV fans be over posting on /vg/ where true discussion happens? What happened?????????
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>>377422301
At the very least I wish they would let players change to fill a missing role.
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>>377440948
The first time they tried to make the game
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>>377441117
It really depends on the topic. MMO generals are the worst of them.
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>>377441117
What bizzaro bearenstein bears universe did you come from where people think /vg/ has good vidya discussion?
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>>377441117
Nah m8 /v/ is still shit. It's just less shit than one of the worst generals on /vg/
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what gatherer should i pick up for goldsmith, miner?
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>>377441117
>how superior /vg/ is for video game discussion
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>>377441117
in most cases, this is true. But on /vg/, circlejerks are king, especially in MMO threads. /xivg/ is hilariously bad, nobody talks about the game, all they do is start drama and shitpost every thread all day. Im pretty sure some /xivg/ shitposters lurk here too, but they actually contribute to discussion a lot of the time. The worst problem we have now is the ping shitposters and salty WoWfugees.
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>>377441117
See, normally I do discuss my games on /vg/ because they are less prone to some le epik ruseman taking it upon himself to derail the thread.

There are certain exceptions where this is completely flipped around and XIV is by far the biggest one.
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>>377441256
Is this your first day on /v/? Lurk the board for fucking 5 minutes damn
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>>377434958
I was a 100th percentile parser on the East Coast
Can I complain?
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>>377441371
Yes
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>>377441474
No, because I 100th percentiled on the west coast.

Fucking deal with it and get good.
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>>377441474
No, don't you know west cost nin used to be the best.
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I think I've taken the WAR pill, guys.

>Level DRK to 60, tank everything and have fun
>Level PLD to 60, tank everything and want to kill myself because I'm playing PLD
>Leveling WAR casually with friends in POTD
>F E L L C L E A V E
>D E C I M A T E
>Every combo just feels so meaty
>Decide I enjoy axe murdering everything
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>>377441474
Only if you upload a scanned copy of your driver's license and a recent electric bill
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>>377441286
/v/ is shit in the proper way tho
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Quick /v/, whats in your wallet?
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>>377428481
Depends. Some classes just got fucked. Paladin, druid and Hunter stuff got way more thought put into their design and class halls
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>>377441616
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>>377441707
USE THE DARK THEME

JESUS
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>>377429775
Party wide buffs would fix it, like how you're encouraged to bring different classes.
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>>377441616
I mean, its doable, I just need to relearn timings, which I shouldn't have to
I wish they did this back in 3.4 or something, so I could've practiced the new timings for multiple months so it becomes natural again
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>>377441707
I hit 50mil before leaving but I put 10mil in company chest to move to kugane and gave 5mil to a friend so they could move their fc too
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>>377441117
you see /vg/'s main purpose was to be a containment area for attention whores. back before it was created most of these people pretended to be smug anime girls like Lanced Jack or Nigba as you can see because of /vg/, /v/ really doesn't have that issue anymore.
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faggit
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>>377441101
Just inner release after gust slash
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>>377441889
I keep most of my gil in my retainer. If I walk around with it all I'm more tempted to spend it on stupid shit.
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>All those cucks with 200,300,400 ping

Hahahahahahahahaha.
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Does anyone know the lvl 50 BLM aoe rotation?
I do Fire 2x4 > Flare > convert + swiftcast > Flare > Transpose > Blizzard x2 > Fire 2x4 > Flare > Transpose...etc
I'm not sure if I'm doing it right.
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>>377441974
No that's when I kassatsu
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>>377442008
Are you me?
Same shit right here.
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>>377442053
just do both and lose like 1 DPS.
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>>377442017
thats really wrong
Fire III > Fire II > Fire II > Fire II > Flare > [Transpose > Fire III > Fire II > Fire II > Flare] > [Repeat brackets ad nausea until shit dies]
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>>377441256
>>377441380

see:

>>376275703
>>377139975
>>377137679
>>370463720
>>377347106
>>376407642

And pic related. /vg/oers love to remind us how /v/ is just a containment board for offtopic shitposting and /vg/ is the board for *true* game discussion. So what are you guys doing on /v/?
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>>377441707
how can you have all that shit and only 200k gil
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>>377442017
Use Fire III first so you get the Astral Fire damage buff
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>>377442121
It's more like 100 dps since I lose 1 gcd a minute.
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>>377442163
What the fuck are you doing? Stop this.
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>>377442017
>>377442145
level 50 aoe rotation is the same as the level 60, fyi.
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>>377441117
Depends of the thread, I guess. The general rule is that all generals are circlejerks, so /vg/ is obviously "superior" to people that get used to them.
They also have less problems with shitposting trying to derail threads with off-topic memes (like our resident ">2.5 GCD" and WoW posters), but have to deal with the fact that the "anonymous" aspect is pointless to them: It's always the same people talking about the same everyday stuff, so you eventually get used to them and even recognize their posts. At this point, the general is either becomes a small and shy community talking about their waifus and shit, or a giant clusterfuck of attentionwhores and dramaqueens mixed with flame wars between the "official" /vg/ guilds/clans/freecompanies/etc. Or a mix of both.
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>>377442228
Trying to kill the "/vg/ is superior for discussion meme". Stop this.
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Is there anything sadder?
do we have a /v/ guild or linkshell up on cactuar?
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>>377442163
>blatantly off-topic post
>thinly-veiled attempt at causing a thread war

Stop
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>>377442163
>/vg/ anin cross shit posting a nice thread because we were talking shit about them.

Nice going mate sure showed us.
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>>377442304
Are you fucking autistic?
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>>377442325
>Joining a /v/ guild
>Ever
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>>377442338
/v/ is for offtopic posting according to /vg/. And they don't have any problem starting thread wars on /v/, so enjoy the taste of your own medicine.
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should I just pop cooldowns and use grenado shot and ricochet for AoE as Machinist?
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>>377442464
So your idea of proving yourself to be better than them is doing exactly what you think makes them worse?

Stop
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>>377442190
>1gcd a minute

Thats 10 gcds, assuming you're fighting a dummy and not an actual boss with mechanics
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>>377442301
>>377442301
>/vg/ is less prone to shitposting trying to derail

As someone who spends an unhealthy amount of time shitposting on both boards, General threads on /vg/ are much easier to derail into dramafests and offtopic shitposting than on /v/.
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>Tab targeting, hotbar combat, telegraph dodging weebfest with a global cooldown so long you could make yourself a sandwich in between skill uses
>Perfect mmorpg
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>>377442426
/vg/ is autistic if they expect to have their general thread be respected her after shittalking /v/ all day long
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>>377442591
Fuma also clip every 20 seconds.
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>>377442625
really tells a story about how shit mmos are
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>>377442438
>not being /v/ nº1 healslut

I'm always with my tail plug
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>>377442689
/xivg/ is shit. We've established this. What the fuck are you doing?
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How badly are sch and war going to get nerfed in stormblood?
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>>377442583
No, you stop. I prove ourselves better by holding you to a base level of conistancy. If /v/ is so shit for talking about vidya than /vg/ then don't come here.
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>>377442738
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>>377442583
>>377442338
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>>377442689
Everyone shittalks /v/. Maybe you should make your own thread about how much you hate everyone if it bothers you so much.
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>>377442761
please no GOD NO
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>>377441707
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>>377442754
>/vg/ is shit
Fixed.
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>>377442713
What's your latency?
Never clipped when I was at 90ms
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>>377442163
>derailing threads on-topic threads with meta-discussion

Either retarded or a false-flagger from /xivg/
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>>377442853
There's maybe 2 or 3 good generals still.
But I guess you're right.
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>>377442761
They're not.
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I really hope they change Bard back to how it was in 2.x. It was so much fun, and then 3.0 dropped and it was a fucking caster. Completely ruined the job for me.
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>>377442883
Like 120-160.
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>>377442689
Everyone shittalks /v/ without exception. Go raid /a/ or something, dumbfuck.
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>>377442931
This has already been discussed to death, but the bard changes were a net positive. There is no reason for a class to be able to output 100% of it's damage while also being 100% mobile at close mid and long range.
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>>377442761
YoshiP actually said he is planning to adjust all other healer/tank jobs to reach SCH/WAR's performance. I'm not really expecting nerfs, but I can see broken as fuck buffs being released again.
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>>377442931
Get gud.
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>>377442823
>>377442969
It's one thing to shittalk /v/ in general, which even I have done. It's another to talk specifically about how inferior /v/ is to /vg/ and then insist on making general threads here anyway. Maybe you should make your own general on /vg/ since /v/ is so much worse for game discussion apparently. Oh wait you won't beacuse you're cowardly weasels
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>>377442931
it went from being the piss easiest job in the game to having the highest skill ceiling possible

granted, its mostly because old shit clashes with HW shit, but still. Fun
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Stay in school kids
>>377443096
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>>377443046
Why not? it's a different playstyle plus they have their utility in songs.
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>>377443096
I'm not even from /vg/ you fucking idiot. You are derailing the thread and you need to fuck off right now.
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>>377443079
post yfw PLD and WHM STILL fail to be good
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>>377442418
>/vg/ anon cross general posting on /v/ even after talking shit about /v/.
>expect your thread to remain intact

lmao
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>>377443145
>>377443171
I don't care. This is a general thread and /vg/ is superior to /v/ so you need to fuck off to /vg/ with your precious discussion.
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>>377443079
>buffs

You mean like the retardedness that was the balance/bole/noct buffs?

All it did was make nocturnal obscenely more powerful than scholar at shielding, we're talking like ridiculously unbalanced shit in the sense of having nearly double the shielding power at massively lower mp costs and an instant cast adlo but still shitty at dps, which is all sch gets taken for. Meanwhile the balance and bole buffs effectively killed white mage by making them actually worth it despite the randomness.
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>>377443079
Well, now AST is stronger than SCH, so whats their new plan?
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>>377443046
>you either deal instant melee damage or casted ranged damage; you cant have something different
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>>377442885
Sorry I forgot meta discussion was allowed on /v/ except your general threads
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>>377440134
Know what I'm doin for lunch. Thanks for the heads up anon.
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>>377442625
Never ever
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Report the autist
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>>377442754
>/v/ is so shit we use /vg/ for real game discussion
>this one general is shit so we need to try discussing the game on /v/

Pick one.
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>>377442625
>tab targeting

It barely functions, but nice try otherwise.
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>already know Yoshi will make no effort to fix it and will just expect the playerbase to forget about it, and they will.
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>>377443592
Isn't this confirmed for Switch?
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>>377443046
Make them deal more damage when they're not moving, or make only their strongest skills be casted.

No reason to make EVERYTHING be casted and be as mobile as a SMN, a fucking mage class.
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>>377443665
Some generals are better than others. There, is that too hard for your autistic little head to comprehend?

Whatever point you are trying to make, you are doing an awful job.
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>>377443712
JP onry
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>>377441707
>>377442845
what's the point of capping each GC besides the minions?
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>>377443845
>Not knowing basic Japanese
Also Switch is region free.
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>>377430515
Too bad, watch it be fucking Ascians behind everything again.
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>>377441057
Yesterday, both in Syrcus and WoD.
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Bard is still fun as fuck and still one of the easier classes in the game.

If it's too much for you then go play Paladin.
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>>377443797
Thank you for proving my point, you are dowing an awful job at refuting it.

>Some generals are better than others
Typical /vg/ excuse. Yet /v/ isn't afforded the same benifit of the doubt when it comes to its threads, /v/ as a whole is worse than the board for *real* game discussion. Yet you want to make your failed generals on /v/? No, fuck off, is that too hard for your autistic little head to comprehend?
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>>377442438
The /tesog/ one is actually pretty ok. At most there's maybe one or two guys who are a little on the /pol/ side, but overall it's fine. Disorganized bunch of jackasses, though, so whenever we try to do trials together it's pretty much like herding cats.
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>>377444037
DQX's payment methods aren't region free, though.
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>>377444259
/v/ does have good threads, but you need to sift through shit to find them. If you find a decent general, you can always find that general just due to the nature of the board and its threads.

Now fuck off and stop derailing this thread.
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>>377444259
Why in the flying fuck do you care so much?

If you don't like a thread, don't fucking open it. If we went to /vg/ we'd be smothered by persistent neet autists, like you.

So, in conclusion, fuck off.
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>>377442145
>>377442189
>>377442241
I'll keep that in mind, thank you anons.
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>>377444037
>region free.
So is PC, you still need a japanese credit card to pay the sub.
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