Video game Piracy. How the FUCK do you sit there and justify

>>377415326
I don't have to justify it.

I do it because I want to and nothing you say to push your morality on me will change that

>>377415326
I don't justify it. Haha I'm gonna do it anyway

>justify
why would you do that

next you're gonna ask me to justify why I stole money from the nearest store and beat up the clerk

I'm a criminal, retard

>>377415408
>>377415435

Can't you see how shitty that behavior is?

>>377415517
Nope. Don't care. Stay mad.

>>377415326
as a pro game dev I don't care since I pirate myself.
Only an idiot buys shit blindly.

>>377415517
not my problem

Only pathetic losers justify it.
Fuck off, I'll get my stuff for free for as long as I can. In fact, if cars, food and housing could be pirated I'd do that too.

>>377415553
>>377415598
How do you sleep at night.

Do you rob convenience stores and say "eh they got insurance it'll pay for it"

>>377415326
>developer puts the minimal amount of time and effort into making some shit quality game
>publisher hypes the fuck out of it
>developer makes fake "gameplay" footage to use in the advertisements
>publisher hires fake reviewers, pays off journalists to create a false consumer Base for their product
>generate revenue before the game is eve out with shitty pre-order bonuses and other trash to get you to buy the game before you even know what's in it

Oh man but I'm so entitled I should have just magically seen through their lies and bought it because they deserve better man if only I paid much more for the game the company totally wouldn't have lied to me. It's those damn pirates that make the games worse and worse

>>377415326
suck my dick I pirate what I want

>>377415326
I'll feel guilty about it when the industry is actually dead, I swear :^)

Imagine paying $60 for Ubisoft or Bethesda garbage? That's the real crime.

>>377415517
>none of your morality shit you wanna push on me will ever change that

You're so fucking oblovious

>>377415679
no, I don't say the last bit

don't give a fuck how they deal with it, or don't -- they might as well kill themselves over it, don't care

Don't worry anon, since you are shilling for free, they are not actually losing any money :^)

>>377415679
I sleep well because I'm not a pretentious little faggot. Must be hard for you.

>>377415679
Stay mad loser

>>377415679
If there was no penalty for robbing convenience stores I'd do that too.

If I couldn't pirate I wouldn't buy the game anyway

Is not buying a game also stealing it?

Is not viewing ads stealing too even though I don't have flash or Java or html5 extensions installed? Should I be forced to install malicious software to

>>377415517
And crying about it while on a pedestal isn't "shitty behavior"?

There are always going to be pirates. You can't get rid of that. But the majority of consumers will pay money for a product that they feel is more than just pre-release hype. The push to secure a payment before release along with stiffing reviews till after release as well as microtransactions and paywalls only pushes more consumers to become priates due to a lack of trust and feeling as if they're being robbed of a promised product anyway.

The best way to fight piracy is not through DRM, it's through building consumer trust in your product.

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but what about the children without money to afford video games?

are they not allowed to have fun just because their parents are poor!?

>>377415326
>piracy killing the industry

Damn are you a little good consumer whore.

>>377415517

go back to >>>/r/eddit

>You are fucking killing the industry
Give me one reason this is a bad thing, because I sure as hell can't find any.

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>buying games

HI GUISE I AM OP I LOVE SUCKING DELICIOUS CORPORATE JEW DICK

>>377415326
>How the FUCK do you sit there and justify used games?
Literally worse for developers and publishers than file sharing.

Lmao who cares whether it's moral or not
>Get a game for free with no consequences for my actions
Or
>Spend the money I work for on games instead of cool shit like vacations and shit

>>377415326
>justifying
I bet you want to tell rapists that rape is bad too

https://torrentfreak.com/0-more-on-content-than-honest-consumers-130510/

the industry thrives thanks to zealous pirate gamers

If we ban SD cards then Pirates can't pirate anymore!

>>377416074
This.
Only complete imbeciles pay for something they can get for free without any consequences.
There is literally no sane and logical explanation for paying for video games.

>>377415326
But I don't, anon. Piracy without purchasing the game first is prime degeneracy.

It is morally acceptable, however, to circumvent copy protection to improve the game's performance or mod the game.

>>377415884
This

>>377415326
>love
I fucking hate the vidya industry. What a cancerous shithole.

>>377416153
What if I want to support a developer that I like? I'm voting with my wallet. It's like how I vote for twitch streamers i want sticking around with donations.

>be me
>see discusting and immature behavior of PC gamers and especially PCMRetards
>don't want to suppport platform with such a shitty, immature and hypocrytical audience
>literally stopped buying games on PC
>havent bought a game on PC for like 2 years
>pirate and play everything on PC though because I want to play the best version
>buy console version instead so I have a legal copy and devs get my money

>>377415884

true that my nigga

>>377416291
>the other people I don't have to affiliate with make me not want to support my own enjoyment

And consoles are full of retarded 12 year old and I will not tolerate or purchase anything that supports these retarded kids

Deal with it.

>>377416268
Then pay for the game, nobody's stopping you lmao

>>377415949
Sush now my dear, this is the daily baiting thread. It should've ended at >>377415408, don't ask such reasonable questions

>>377416268

>What if I want to support a developer that I like? I'm voting with my wallet.

piratefags do this, too.
But we don't pay for shitty 6-hour singleplayer bullshit or AAA-shit or bethesda shit.
We buy legitimately good games where it's actually worth supporting the developer. We don't like the current state of the industry, simple as that. So we support games that fall out of that spectrum and are worth supporting.

And we support them after playing them pirated, initially. Except if it's a MP-game obviously.

>>377415326
Don't have to explain shit my man.

>>377416268
>It's like how I vote for twitch streamers i want sticking around with donations.

I said "sane and logical".
Giving money to retards who screech on the internet is neither of those.

>>377416434
"We" don't do anything. YOU might, "we" don't.
Fuck off.

>>377416434
>We
I don't

>TV/Music piracy is incredibly risky and people get fined all the time
>Vidya piracy is ez and the most you'll get is a few Anons on /v/ judging you
Why is this?

>>377416434
You sound like pirates are some kind of morale crusader. Fuck off and admit you're a degenerate scumbag.

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OP, why are you so mad about massive corporations that you don't have any stock in losing potential income?

>>377415326
>everyday the same thread

report & move on

>>377415326
>justify your abhorrent behavior

I don't, I just want free games. The only idiots that try to do it delude themselves into thinking they're making a statement by not buying or cry about some trivial reason like "muh c-censorship!" when all they want is to not pay for their shit.

>>377416501
>>377416482

>falseflagging consolefags


Every piratefag I know buys the games he loves.

/thread, you fags.

>I'm the one killing the industry
>when companies keep on releasing broken ass shitty unfinished games with day 1 DLC
>and you keep buying these
yeah no

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>video game industry made 70 billion dollaridoos in 2013
>"Help! We're dying over here, curse those filthy pirates!"

I'm here for the Porn Dump Derailment. Get on with it already.

>>377415326

I already spend all my disposable income on shit I like. If I don`t pirate nobody wins anything and if I pirate nobody loses anything. What do I have to feel bad about?

Videogame companies need to start paying shills to make pirated copies of their games, and make them easily available throughout the internet. The pirated games would come with a dormant virus. After some time, after millions of faggots download, the virus would activate, wiping out all of their data and outing them as piratefags

>>377416559

>implying piratefags aren't literally patrician-tier

consoleplebs and buyfag corporate dicksuckers can fuck off back to >>>/r/eddit

>>377415326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI

>>377415326
And that's why I don't torrent indie dev games, but not wanting to pay for a EA or Ubisoft title is perfectly understandable

>>377416380
I mean, atleast consolefags are kids that are behaving like retards. On the other hand PC is supposed to be for more mature audience, which means it is even worse if they behave like retards.

I rather give part of my money to Sony/MS than to fucking PCfags.

>>377416659
And that's how you get prison time and culpable for billions in damages.

I pirate because its an easy way of demoing a product.

I did it with The Surge / Prey, found them both to be terrible. Prevented me from having to shell out to see if a game is worth my money or not, and in those two cases, saves them the trouble of having to refund me.

>>377415326
>developer puts in time and effort
And this is where your plan falls apart

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>tfw pirating AAA games several times in a row so the companies can go bankrupt

>>377415326
Well the transaction has changed now that once 1 copy is available it can be replicated indefinitely at no cost. The smart people have moved to patreon to sell their intangible "talents" and not their tangible(and replicatable) products. Or they sell a subscription service where they spoonfeed you media that you might not want to bother finding shiity ad riddled streams or shady russian websites to download from. Don't just work hard, work smart, your labor doesn't carry inherent value.

>>377415326
>justify
I pirate because I want to and I can. You can't stop me, no one can. I have been pirating for the past three decades. Meanwhile the industry you claim is being killed is stronger than ever and tops the movie industry.

Thank you for subsidizing my gaming experience - every purchase you make leads to me playing more free games. Eat shit faggot, have a pepe

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>>377415949
Of course you can dumb bitch.

Can you imagine? Forcing poor third world kids to buy their shit at full price?

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>>377415326
I'm not sure what you're talking about but this game was fun as fuck

>find treasure
>take a treasure ships every once in a while, keeping relationship with Spain tight so they overlook it
>divide massive plunder
crew rarely leave because they find it fun

>>377416291
Why don't you just tell us that you have an extra chromosome instead?

>>377415326
>game is shit
>game is rushed
>game is incomplete
>game is nothing like original plan
>game is falsely advertised through bullshots or trailers
>games are still much more likely to not have demos

I mean really why invest when I can demo it for free? Why pay a dev/publisher money when I can pirate something especially if they burned me before?

>>377415326

I finally made the jump by realizing for the past few years I've only been buying cheap used copies of games any way.

If a new game comes out that I want I'll still buy that, but for those throwaway experiences I don't see why not.

>want to pirate a game
>find a torrent, magnet it, start downloading
>install/unpack, copy crack, play

>want to buy a game
>need steam/origin/uplay
>prices are not regional so I need to pay more when buying directly than if I went to the store and did it
>need to make a purchase which often takes a while
>often bloated with DRM
>game turns out to be shit or too short
>wasted 60$

>>377416925
>being this salty

kek

>>377416840
> there are no poor people in the first world

>>377415326
What are you gonna do about it bitch boy?

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>>377415326
I can pirate because picrelated

plus 100 or so physical across various platforms.

The best part of piracy isn't thousands of free games, it's watching assblasted denuvodrones try to justify why they spent 60 thousand dollars on the same trash I could barely play for free.

>>377416735
All they have to do is deny everything. What can piratefags prove? "I was commiting a crime and got screwed, and I know it was deliberate. Where's my compensation?"

>>377415326
I'm not writing an essay to rationalize all my actions. No idea why you feel entitled to that. I do what I want, because a pirate is free.

>>377416983
You forgot the third option

>want to "experience" a game
>go to YouTube and search for a let's play

Why does piracy get all the hate when this is so much easier to do?

>>377417058
All you need is one pirate with a good lawyer.

>>377417115
The funny thing about this is you can get the full experience this way for some "games"

>>377417115
What's the point of having sex if you can just watch other people do it

>>377417058
Or the game makes them click accept on a modified EULA that makes them unable to fight it in court.

Pirates need some kind of punishment.

>>377415326
>How the FUCK do you sit there and justify your abhorrent behavior?

I only buy on PS4 and nintendo.
I pirate everything that gets a PC port and seed forever.
There's a lot of us.

>>377417270
There isn't one, which is why in countries with unrestricted pornography birth rates are dropping.

>>377415326
Sure. I'll stop pirating when they stop their business practices that hurt consumers and the people who actually make the game.

>>377417284
Worthless in the EU.

>>377417332
Why not do >>377416291 , anon?

>>377417270
Procreation. But otherwise you can make do just fine with porn.

>>377416291
People who link their enjoyment of something to the other people enjoying it must be legitimately retarded.

>>377417115
>interactive experience
>the same as watching some faggot on youtube have that experience

Why not just go buy a car because you saw some guy on youtube driving it

>>377415949
The only reason PS1 and the PS2 sold as much as it did outside of first-world countries was because it was so easy to pirate games.

Thats why 90% of the brazilian kids had a PS1 or a PS2. With the 64 or the Gamecube you needed to buy a game that costed almost half of minimum wage at the time.

>>377417570
>comparing 1s an 0s to a physical object that has a practical tangible purpose

Fuck off, should've gone with a food analogy.

>>377415326
The only game I ever pirated, I bought the real deal an hour after playing it.

Is emulation piracy? If yes, then I guess I pirate a shitload of games. Not like devs are making any money from DS games in 2017.

>pirate a game
>own the game

>buy a game
>download drmware like steam
>forces you to give up all your personal information and credit card number
>and accept bullshit agreements
>just so you can play a game you don't own
>which can be revoked by steam at any time, and your account burnt to the ground
>and if you try to fight it you'll lose, because you accepted a bullshit eula

>>377415326
>justify
im not
suck my dick

>>377417234
It will only be a problem if a large company gets affected by it. Then again, this company would have to evaluate itself on why the fuck they're using their computers to download pirated games. But random basement dwellers? Nah, they don't have any power to go after large businesses. Even if the data-erasing is only a slap on the wrist for them (as their PCs only have porn and pirated stuff), it will sure as hell make them wary of downloading anything in the future.

>>377415326
Do you buy all the films you watch? What about TV shows only being available exclusively on platforms such as Netflix?

Not everyone can afford to pay for their entertainment, they cannot justify paying $50+ for a single game. Entertainment has become an expensive luxury, piracy allows those with less money to have access to such luxuries too.

Of course not everyone pirates for the same reason. Some do it even though they could easily afford to pay for it, maybe they want to demo the game before buying it, or maybe they are just entitled fucks who think they can get everything for free just because they can.

Then there are others who aren't exactly poor, but still can't justify paying so much for a single game. These people may pirate a game to play it immediately, then wait for the game to go on sale before making a purchase.

My point is that you can't just generalise all those who pirate games, people pirate for different reasons.

> You are fucking killing the industry we all love, all because you feel entitled to free shit.

Exclusivity is what kills the industry.

>>377415326
How old are you?

Like what is going, do you kids buy all your music from iTunes and CD shops at the mall too?

I only pirate things that aren't for sale on a website in English.

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You know what really grinds my gears?

Why can't we just pirate something and admit it's objectively wrong? Some of you pansies make excuses around this fact.

It's fine. I pirated Owl Boy but I did it because I know I'll be broke for a month. I don't feel good about it.

>>377417842

>not supporting the artists you like

now THIS is degeneracy

piracy is ok, but if you're listening to decent music (not fucking mainstream millionaire crap) then you HAVE to support the musicians you degenerate faggot

>>377417937
because I don't think it's wrong unless I'm doing it out of spite

>product
Jew detected

>>377417937

>feeling remorse for not shoving money down the throat of huge shit corporations

I don't think it's wrong at all.
I don't pirate games I want to support and that deserve support.

>>377417937
>objectively wrong
What exactly is wrong with getting things for free? Go ahead, I can wait.

I hate video games

I only play them out of spite, and don't have fun

I hope they die

>>377417945
Don't fans support their artists by going to gigs and buying merch? Buying their songs does fuck all because most of the money goes to the record company apparently.

>>377418025
>feeling remorse for not shoving money down the throat of huge shit corporations

AAA developed games will not get a dent at all. But some Indie games developed by a one-man team or even just 2 can get fucked hard. Think about it.

>>377415326
>developer puts in time and effort to create unfinished, unbalanced, half-assed, poorly optimized product
ftfy

>>377417937
You never created a single piece of art in your life and you will never understand art

>>377415326
stay mad little cuck.

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>>377415326
>industry we all love

>>377418129

You can support them through Spotify or Bandcamp, then most of it goes to the artist.
And yes, gigs and merch are a good way of supporting them too. But if nobody buys the CD then the label will drop them, which is even more important.

I'm a musician myself so that's why I'm kinda butthurt about it.

I'm fine with developers making money.
But the idea of companies like denuvo and valve making money makes me want to vomit.
I bought every game in the 90s and early 00s, only when securom came out did I start pirating.

>>377416057
>YEAH FUCK THE POLICE BRO SMASH THE STATE
This outlook is much more childish than both militant piratefags and militant buyfags.

>>377418180

Yes, that's why I buy those games.
Do you seriously think piratefags pirate EVERYTHING? I have more stuff in my library than most people, and I also play a lot of MP games

>>377418556

>The State = Ubisoft, EA and other AAA-Game-Companies

lol?
underage much?

>>377418556
You are so jewish you shit gefillte fish

>>377418180
> But some Indie games developed by a one-man team or even just 2 can get fucked hard.
But nobody would ever complain about buying out humble bundles for 1 cent.

>>377415326
>how do you sit there and justifiy
why would we need to? to appease some irrate fuck the other side of the planet? good one.

now fuck off.

>>377418802
Well that's on the teams discretion. They're not forced to put games on sale knucklehead.

>>377417426
>Why not do

I do play most games on PC as well but will pirate regardless. A PC port is betrayal.

>>377415326
LITERALLY SHAKING RIGHT NOW

>>377419007
>A PC port is betrayal.
You trust billion dollar companies enough to feel betrayed?

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I pirate because I love seeing assblasted faggots like op and this guy in torrent comments.
Shit splits my sides.
I'm not going to pay for video games regardless, the quality has gone way down and they're trying to charge me 80 canadabux for shit I wouldn't never in my life pay $60 for.

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>>377415326
Libertarian here, step aside and allow me to handle this.

Soundtrack for my post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc7lUbWEbqY

Well... It seems you believe in intellectual property... So to speak.

However... Allow me. I will refute this absurd concept.

How could a human possibly hold property of a idea, a concept, or computer data? It is abundant and essentially infinite. Even if you are the one who came up with it, nothing will be taken from you if others obtain it.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying this like a thief, but instead as a British lord, a morally conservative, libertarian fellow who believes that property rights are absolute and actually the only right that exists, all others consist on the mere use of property rights. However, there can be no property of abstract concepts... So to speak.

You may have property of your car. It is unique to you and certainly not abundant in nature. You can't, however, have property of all the water that exists in the world, or all oxygen, or all reproductions of your idea... So to speak.

Do you see it now? Piracy is not a aggression to private property. I will agree with you that it is immoral, so to speak, but certainly not a crime. Not at all.

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>>377418656
>>377418787
If you hate "the man" and sucking corporate cock so much, why are you paying to live in a house? Or paying for food? Or paying taxes?

>>377418180
Indie teams make bank if they make actually decent game instead of shit one.

>>377419162
so to speak

>>377415326
because I prefer to play (not necessarily complete) every game before I spend money to buy it whether that is in the form of a demo or through piriting. Not even looking at trailers or youtube walkthroughs can be big enough proof that I really like the game other than actually playing it. By using this method, it eliminates buyers remorse for me. Never had to refund a steam game.

I'm not saying piracy is right, there's no point justifying it.. I know it's wrong and don't really care. There's no reason for me to rely on 'hope' about whether a game is good or not when I can just pirate it and buy if it's good.

Most recent purchase would be Nier Automata with this method.

>>377419165
Because i cant ctrl c ctrl v a house but i can easily ctrl c ctrl v digital goods.

Also give it 3 more years and we can 3d print houses

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>>377415326
- regional lock (I couldn't legally buy neither Maw nor Rayman Legends for some stupid reason);
- out of stock anywhere (Wolverine: Origins, Scratches are no more purchase-able), count out physical copies for ridiculous prices on ebay;
- physical copy went bad (i ain't buying same shit twice);
- physical copy that didn't go bad, flips the bird at you with obnoxious on-disc DRM that doesn't work anymore (you literally can't play Myst IV on newer machines with Windows 8 or higher)

>>377417025
there are even more poor people in the third world

>>377419512
Yeah but who cares

>>377415326
how does downloading games kill vidya industry, but downloading child porn strengthens cp industry?

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>>377419162
>So to speak.
Why does this always make me crack up laughing?

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>>377415326
sniff me

>>377419528
clearly not the industry, so i'll just continue pirating like everyone does in the country

Wow, surprisingly, piratebros are in the majority now. I started similar thread (only justifying piracy) 6 or so years ago and /v/ had gotten mad at me.

Pirating is badong

>>377419116
>You trust billion dollar companies enough to feel betrayed?

I trust the less of many evils. The one I hate the ABSOLUTE FUCKING most in the industry is Gabe for blue balling me for 12 years.

>>377419723
stream when

>>377415326

Not my problem that they provide no demo for me to decide whether the game is worth it or not. Honestly, any game that has no demo isn't worth my interest. It just tells me that they have little faith in the game and ignores any potential feed back to improve it.

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>>377419804
You don't have to trust any of them, you know?

And hating the fat fuck for that is seriously dumb when there's so many legitimate reasons. HL3 will never and can never be an actual thing.

>>377415326
I do it to try out games as most games don't have demos and demos are usually an inadequate representation of the actual game. If I end up liking the game I'll stop playing the pirated version and buy it.

I don't see anything morally wrong with that myself, but maybe you can, since you obviously have a higher sense of what is right and wrong.

>developer puts in time and effort to create product
>time and effort
there's more shit these days than there are good games

>>377415326
I've been pirating music and vidya since cassettes were a thing, I don't see any of the industries dying.

And frankly I don't care.

I come from a relatively poor background where buying a game was a Christmas luxury. I could now afford to feed my current gaming needs without problems but I never got the habit of buying entertainment. It really feels like wasting my money.
I only pirate because I don't feel at ease wasting money on entertainment.
If you ask me what I'd do if piracy wasn't an option, I'd probably just keep playing old games (some of which I like to collect for novelty value) or drop this hobby for good.
I'm sure there's a lot of people like me.

>>377415326
>$80+tax in Canada

I'm NOT fucking paying that much for a video game. And that doesn't even include the season pass and microtransaction bullshit. I refuse to pay that much.

>>377417236
It still confuses me how youtube allows full non-commentary playthroughs of kinetic visual novels or really linear cinematic games. That's no different from letting the vn run on auto mode or watching a video of the same scene.

>>377417937

I felt pretty good after pirating Owlboy when I beat it in a few hours.

>>377415326
Point me to a copy of Age of Wonders Shadow Magic without cucking to Steam?

>>377420373
>the music industry isn't dying
Please die.

>>377415517
>Can't you see how shitty that behavior is?
says the guy who spams this thread day and night.

>>377415326
>developer puts in time and effort to create product

L O L

>>377415326
>ou are fucking killing the industry we all love
piracy never had a significant impact on the industry, and according to their own people, resellers are much more damaging, which does not even stop them from cooperating with gamestop for more than a decade now.

Nobody in their right mind loves this industry, and the thing killing it is itself, because it needs exponential growth to keep itself alive.

>>377415679
holy shit FUCK OFF LEAFS

Technically distribution of pirated games hurts companies more than the pirates themselves

>>377420845
https://www.gog.com/game/age_of_wonders_shadow_magic
There you go my goy

I personally dont care if people pirate or not but you have some good taste anon.

>>377415326
Developers puts in time and effort


They make the game
they don't make millions from the sales

The company boss does
They are just worker's doing their job and that's it

>>377415326
because there are no demos
kys

>>377415326
I only buy games that deserves it. And meme games or cinematic trash with no real plot or character just don't.

Besides, most of the real good games are exclusive on consoles that aren't pirated. Really makes you think isn't it? AND YET THEY BOMB THE MOST

Basically, piracy doesn't do shit.

>>377418180
Indies gets far more money than a lot of midtier games now though.

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>>377415326