Persona 5 breaks franchise records

>>377411904
>persona 4 babies
Almost nobody with a brain defends 4 or 3, 5 is objectively better in almost every way. Terrible bait.

>>377412607
>incoming P3fags with muh character development

>>377412607
Why does a game need to be better to be worth defending, tho? You can like P5 the most and still talk about the merits of the other games.

Atlus is greedy. They'll probably release it on PC and Switch to cash in on the game even more.

I am hoping this leads more towards more console RPGs from Atlus being made and not the mass amounts of spin-offs that P4 got.

>>377412818
lol

>>377412792
This. None of the Persona games are ever actually terrible except P1, and each have their own outstanding merits. I will agree that P5 has set standards exaggeratedly high coming off of P3 and P4, which were themselves serious improvements over P2 in every regard except for story, but I'm not going to hate the franchise because the latest entry was great.

>>377412818
They're also selling a lot of dlc that could be avoided with mods. Just the extra Personas alone cost more than $25, never mind each $7 costume/BGM set. You wouldn't get away with that on PC.

>>377412792
Nobody is calling them terrible, they're all great games. But if anyone denies that Persona 5 is not objectively better than the others preceding it, they are just lying to themselves. That's not saying that 3 and 4 aren't good, 5 just improves upon the formula.

>>377412818
LOL
Keep on dreaming.

>>377412818
No they won't. I have no fucking clue why you would think this.

>>377411904
Persona 4 babies on suicide watch!

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>put older women in game that can be romanced
>sells like hotcakes

Jap devs should take notes.

Too bad everything after Madarame sucked, Makoto ruined the game.

>>377413385
t. yusukefag

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>>377411904
>Niche game series that became more known after their releases has a sequel that is getting more attention than when the previous game that had a very small following when it launched!

>>377412717
>muh character development

Did you actually fucking type that down. Do you actually take that as a negative

>>377413839
Because the character development isn't any better in P3 than it is in any other game and half the cast is hardly likable.

If 75% of the game is a flashback, then how did Joker know about the parts he wasn't there for?

>>377416095
He's not telling Sae every single thing that happens.

>>377416095
>Japanese
>Videogame
>Logic
That entire portion of the game is one huge plothole.

Oh fucking great now there will be at least 10 years of P5 shit. Who even wants this?

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>>377416805
As a Harufriend, I do.

>tfw your female friend tells you she fuck you if you were younger
>tfw she's in her thirties and her current bf just turned 18
why are cougars so hot and why does it hurt so much that i'll never be young again

>>377411904
>Persona 4 babies utterly btfo
What does that even mean
I like both 4 and 5

>>377412818
Are they going to get greedy with SMTV and port it to PS4 too? What about EOV?

>>377417007
No you don't you idort.

>>377417173
SMTV probably, but 3DS games are actual work because of how god awful they look.

>>377417259
Some work need to be put of course, like MGS PW HD and other PSP remasters. Same goes for porting P5 to Switch, some work need to be put. That's how you sell videogames.

>>377413192
Direction and cinematography of P3's anime cutscenes shits on 4 and 5 tbqh.

>>377416805
Don't worry. It's only 9 because we're already a year into release.

>>377416805

I sure as hell don't, I feel nothing for the P5 cast.

>>377412818
i hope so because I don't' want to buy a ps5 for p6.

>>377417376
That's why I said almost everything. The animated cutscenes in P3 are god tier, but that doesn't mean that it isn't lacking in every other aspect.

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>>377411904
Those are actually some impressive numbers. Persona 5 Arena confirmed for happening

Proof Atlus games belong on PS4, and will come.

>>377412951
P1 is pretty great though, much better than p2 in pretty much everything other than characters

>>377418326
I disagree, I think its theming felt a lot more consistent and the characters were far more nuanced and interesting.

Those are subjective though and make up the basis for these disagreements.

From a purely objective standpoint the series has only gotten better over time but we are discussing a piece of entertainment and unfortunately not everything can be reduced to objective points.

Labrys in the spinoffs when?

>>377418779
I'm glad they brought toasters back in P5. P3 had aigis, P4 had labrys and P5 has makoto.

>>377417536
just like how ur mom feels nothing for u lmao

>>377418714
You can though. For example, dungeons, Hand crafted are objectively better and more entertaining than randomly generated floor crawling.

>>377419194
You can say they're objectively better directed or objectively more fair but you cannot say something is objectively more entertaining because entertainment differs from person to person.

Now you can say that people who like randomly generated dungeons have shit taste since that is an opinion but you cannot say that anything is objectively more entertaining than anything else.

>>377419376
You can't possibly have liked Tartarus

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>>377412951
>None of the Persona games are ever actually terrible except P1, and each have their own outstanding merits. I will agree that P5 has set standards exaggeratedly high coming off of P3 and P4, which were themselves serious improvements over P2 in every regard except for story

>P1
>Terrible
If you're a casual that can't handle basic dungeon crawling and fast forwarding through brain-dead combat, which is still better than any of P4's fights, then yeah, of course you wouldn't enjoy it. The cast is miles better than any Persona game put out afterwards.

>P3 and P4, which were themselves serious improvements over P2 in every regard except for story
And characterization, and music, and the fusion system. Let's not forget that we went from all the main cast being able to switch Personas to Door-Kun and his autopilot adventures. I sure do love fucking micromanaging instead of playing the actual game.

Persona 3 and 4 aren't terrible, but you're talking out of your ass if you think they're better games than their predecessors. At the very least P5 made up for it's half baked story for some really likeable characters and the best combat out of every Persona game.

>>377419554
I didn't but that's my opinion.
Someone else might've though (but I think that'd be a pretty rare thing to find)

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>That feel when
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQe_GtyYEPo

>>377418564
I hope not. I don't want elderly Mitsuru in my game. She was hotter when she wasn't 25 years old.

>>377419194

they would be more entertaining if they weren't so straightforward and hand-holdy. you exchange one evil for other

>>377419729
pillage him

3 had better story I think, but overall I liked 5 more.

4 is not so good in comparison to both

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Does Persona have the most fractured fanbase in video games?
let alone SMT as a whole

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>>377416994
>tfw unreasonably attracted to my boss
>shes in her fifties and her kids are older than me
Would literally die happy if she just mounted me one day

>>377413330
sells like

>hot
>cakes

>>377420449
I don't get it.

>>377411904
Would've sold more if it was released on PC.

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>>377411904
http://www.strawpoll.me/12995544/

>>377412818
>Switch to cash in on the game even more.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a "Crimson" version that includes all that DLC plus maybe a new storyline dungeon and playable character

>>377420605
I'd rather have an actual SMT game instead of VN bullshit on PC.

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>>377413330
Please. If you could romance the wardens, Jap sales would have lapped Western sales by a mile.

>>377420520
>failing weab 101
Christmas cake is an expression for single women in japan, since good at 24, 25, meh after, shit past 30.

>>377420902
I don't do Japanese weeb shit.

>>377419615
>P1fags actually exist
lmao.

So what kind of wacky mascot non-human will be in P6? Since obviously there has to be one in Persona, now.

>>377421734
This is one of the most fucking annoying things from P4.

At least Koromaru didn't fucking talk and didn't have a shitty chibi form

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>>377421734
Will they ever aknowledge why there are so many evil gods that come from the collective unconsciousnes to grant some dark desire no one thought they had?
Or how personas and shadows or even became tangible a thing.
I haven't played p1 and p2, but I know it has something to do with Nyarly and philemon in the first 2 games where are those two guys in the later games?

>3 million views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KukSVxgsQkg

>>377421171
Neither do I. Playing weeb games and taiwanese moving drawings is enough to get that.

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>>377421734
This time it will be a female persona that acts like the protags mentor. Most likely Scáthach, while the protags starting persona will be Cú Chulainn.

>>377422625
I don't do either of those either.

>>377411904
>Persona 5 had the strongest debut month for any Persona game in franchise history
Cool!

>>377420645
Makoto easily

This ship is gonna sink without hoshino, can't wait for persona 6 to be shit and atlust starts focusing on SMT more again.

>>377422630
Sounds way too cool to be in Persona.

I'm anticipating a sentient Furby.

>>377422590
Persona soundtracks are not that good compared to other smt games.

I'm playing Raidou 2 and that one has much better music than P5.

>>377422586
Philemon is a butterfly in P3, 4 and even Q. He plays a very minor part in all of them, and basically is a non-character who does nothing.

Then he got retconned out of 5. Butterfly ends up being the loli which makes absolutely and utterly no sense. The whole series basically is fucked.

>>377422630
Shoildn't his starting persona be setanta and his ultimate persona Cu chulain?

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>Losing to a spinoff port of a 3 year old rehash on a console with a 20th of the install base

HOW many years did it take them to make Persona 5, again?

>>377422927
>the SMT inferiority complex in every Persona thread

Like clockwork

>>377423126
Excuse me that I enjoy actual games instead of visual novels.

>>377423126
He's right though, DDS and Nocturne have god tier OSTs compared to BABY BABY BABY or NOW I REACH OUT.

No Persona song even comes close to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go0JWfE9nEw

>>377423105
>Eventhen P5 is one of Atlus' best selling game.
Is there even an atlus game that sold better than p5?

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>>377420645
>no joker (female)

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>>377423263
>only 40k views vs nearly 4 million

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcE4-6QGgpc

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>>377412818

>A company that makes its money off of publishing and selling video games wants to sell more games
>Greedy

Never go into business dude

>>377419615
>fusion system
I'd say having a fusion system at all is an improvement over collecting tarot cards.

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>>377422671
If you've played Persona, you've already started down the dark path.

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>>377423373
But what if the girls aren't bisexual? Then what's the point? Most of the dudes are your shitty teammates and middle aged men.

>be european
>P3 FES released in October of 2008
>P4 released like 4 months and something later
That could have fucked the sales and it was certain a short game between both. No wonder why P4 was released later than US
Both games were one of the last big games for the PS2 while P5 is for both PS3 and 4.

>>377411904
> Persona 5’s comes out in the Social media age
> persona 4 came out in 2008

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>>377417173
>Etrian Odyssey
>PS4
How would that even work?

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>>377423446
Nope. The furthest I gone down was Danganronpa.

And then I watched the cartoon.

And it was shit.

>>377411904
Same franchise

>>377423648
>3 years after the PS3 came out
>with much less fanfare or impressive visual flair at all

I know Japan latched onto the PS2 for years, but it's still weird that Persona got a foothold in the US/worldwide at all.

>>377423498
>and middle aged men.
What's the issue??

>>377420141

Final Fantasy.

>>377423709
Requires a Vita to hook up to your PS4 to do the map shit

Or just make EO not a fucking chore to play

>>377423843
A 16 year old girl should not have relations with a man reaching his 40s and beyond.

>>377417376
Did I really read this like P3's anime cutscenes weren't garbage?

>>377423934
It's okay if he's sexy tho

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>>377423903
>Or just make EO not a fucking chore to play
I don't think EO is for you.

>>377424026
I dunno, did you?

>>377424037
Neither Yoshida nor Iwai is okay. Yoshida doesn't need that kind of controversy if he wants to run in office and Iwai is busy with his own family life without introducing a mommy to his son that's younger than him.

>>377423263
That sounds... fine? I don't hate it but it's not anything special. Would not sound out of place in P3 or P4 but I wouldn't have remembered it if it were.

>>377422630
That would be god damn amazing.

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>>377412818
>They'll probably release it on PC and Switch
>Switch
God I fucking hope so. I loved Persona 5 but it fucking dragged at times. P4G made me realize I prefer this series when I can just pick it up anywhere and play little by little whenever/wherever I want, and on the Switch it's unlikely they'd be forced to gimp the quality.

>>377420141
Sonic
The fanbase is so fractured they have no confidence in allowing "Modern Sonic" to carry a game on his own. Not only does he need Classic riding shotgun but also OCs now.

>>377416994
I had the opposite one time
>female coworker in her thirties
>early twenties for me
>gave me a hug and whispered
>"If you were older, I'd fuck you
>talked about "jumping my bones" before that

Nothing came from that. First real experience was with a girl two years older than me. It's really no surprise why I picked Kawakami.

>>377424475
Remote play, nigga.

Good, I hope we all forget Persona 4 even happened.

What a laughable time the P3/4 era was, it did unfixable damage to the series, I'm glad Persona is finally great again.

>>377424960
>it did unfixable damage to the series
Such as?

>>377423269
There isn't, actually. The single best selling Atlus game before P5 was P1, which P5 shattered all releases of the first week.

>>377424960
>even more childish than ever before
>with a boring cast and a shit story
>shoehorned stealth in an otherwise super easy game
>boring theme that is almost a copy of P3 and 4 combined
>Persona is saved!!!

>>377424960
I thought all three were good though.

>>377425073

Infested the series with waifufags.

The fact so many of them hated Persona Q for having actual gameplay said a lot.

>>377425117
>shoehorned stealth
I'm not sure you know what that means. That's like saying MGS had shoehorned stealth. The game was made with that whole idea in mind from early on.

I think the word you're looking for is "simplistic"

>>377424960
P4 won't be forgotten any time soon if for no reasons other than how long it was shilled for and the world's strong desire to be contrarian

>>377425238
You have to forgive anon, his vocabulary has mostly memes in it

>>377425290
That and there won't be a P5 Arena. There'll just be a third P4 Arena. Morgana isn't as iconic enough to sell a spin-off like Ted can.

>>377420141
SMT is fractured itself.
IVA, SJ, Nocturne, spinoffs outside of persona like DeSu.
Alignments and arguments.

>>377425397
People like Teddie?
News to me.

>>377423092
nah his ultimate persona would be more of a godlike being rather than a folk hero.

SMTucks BTFO

we mainline now

>>377425471
I bought P4A for Teddie.

And the joke was on everyone else because he was decent tier.

>>377418698

My nigga. I played through the games from 1 to 5 last year and I liked 1 the most. I also liked IS and to a lesser extent, EP, mostly for the characters and story though.

>>377425397
Wada doesn't agree with that at all
incidentally neither do I

>>377425529
What tier was Adachi?

>>377423745
And yet you're sitting here in a persona thread

>>377425598
/v/ tier

>MK8D Worldwide release vs P5's NA release
I'm surprised???

Can I see a comparison of each region's launch numbers instead.

>>377425360
>only word that could have been considering a "meme" is shoehorned
>which I still stand by since I believe it adds nothing to the game for all the annoyance it does add

>>377425598
Low tier.

Like, really bad tier. Worse than Yukari, worse than Marie, worse than Yukiko. Not as bad as Elizabeth but you'd literally have to be Junpei to be as bad as Elizabeth.

>>377424150
The direction's solid, but the animation and off-model characters really bring them down.

>>377425804
Who was S tier?

>>377425968
Good thing that was the subject of the post.

The animation of 4/5 really aren't much better though, more on model for sure but it's just as limited in movement but without the stylistic flair to make up for it.

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>>377425994
I don't know, but the top 5 are, in order

Yu
Yosuke
Sho-time w/ Persona
Aigis
Yu again but the bad one.

>>377426086
You're right that P4's and P5's aren't much better, but I thought P3's was easily the worst. Didn't the animation company even ask to have their names removed from the credits?

>>377423194

Good God, could you sound any less pretentious?

>>377426697
He's right though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seNMCgcc0Kw

>>377419869
SATANAEL

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>>377423194
>Excuse me that I enjoy actual games instead of visual novels.

>overwhelming success means we'll probably see shitty filler games like dancing and ultimate again instead of another mainline game any time soon

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>>377427602
I will gladly accept anything that gives me more Haru.

>>377427602

Sounds pretty par for the course

Why is Depths of Mementos such a boring fucking grind fest?

This is like torture desu.

>>377427602

It was going to happen anyway, don't be retarded.

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>>377427767
You should be grateful that it's not the final dungeon from P4 instead.

>>377427767

i honestly enjoyed the depths quite a lot

i think it was just the aesthetic and the intrigue of finally having something mysterious and supernatural to figure out

that and the music was goat

I wonder how many normies bough P5 based on the meta score and hypy and what were they face like when they realised, what type of gameplay is it.

It would be even more fun if they actually liked it after all

>>377412607
Don't even act like the writing in P5 is better than P3 or P4. Hell, the pacing in P5 is the worst in the series.

>>377427602
But we will also receive superios version like golden/fes.
It will be perfect for a replay

>>377427973
This was literally me. I had a Vita and no games to play, so I just looked up the highest scored Vita game and got P4G. Worth it.

>>377428061
>the pacing in P5 is the worst in the series.
You can't say that when P3 exist.
In P3 literally nothing happens for 3/4 of the game.

>>377427927

It's the most tedious shit in the entire game.

Add to that getting within inches of the first safe room and LOL ENEMY FUCK YOU LOL BRAINWASHED LOL YOU DEAD LOL BACK TO THE START FUCK YOOOOOOU

>>377411904
Not surprised, P3 was a sleeper hit, and P4 released when the PS2 was drowning in the PS3 hype. Not to mention P5 was marketed a lot more than previous entries, and the series as a whole are now normie-bait.

>>377428184
>It's the most tedious shit in the entire game.
What is Space Sport, Cruise Ship and Mementos?

>>377428184
More tedious than Spaceship or Mice Stealth? Depths is short as fuck, and can be rushed easily with the right Personas.

>>377428430

>tfw Cruise Ship was your favourite part of the game

It was the easiest dungeon by far.

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>All these reaction images taken from camara photos of the screen


Just use Remote play on your PC

>>377411904
The hell, I like P4 and I'm happy about P5's success. Why you shitposters must turn everything into a fan war.

>>377427973

i have a normie friend who only bought it because it was a hyped up next-gen game that everyone else in the friend group bought already

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>>377427602
P4DAN is legitimately super fun tho, and P4 has a 10/10 soundtrack.

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>>377412818
>Switch

>>377428149
Not really.

In P3 you have a goal and clear objective from the start and you're progressing towards it with every passing month.

P5 is just Saturday morning cartoon after Saturday morning cartoon episode in terms of arcs for the sake of getting a new party member, just like how P4 was Scooby Doo until they said "we have all the characters we want now, let's progress the plot!".

>>377428783
>P4 has a 10/10 soundtrack.
Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jX-Lrhrt1M

>>377428740
Does anybody have maid Shiho with the bruise?

Just got some info with an Atlus USA employee about future Persona related releases.

Atlus Japan will do a livestream in July and will announce the following titles:

- Persona 5 fighting game (ARCADE, PS4, PC) - The arcade version will be released at december 2017 while the PS4/PC port will be released mid 2018. It will use the same engine of Guilty Gear Xrd.

- Persona 3 Remaster (PS4, PC, upcoming Sony handheld) - No release date, it will an remaster version including the FeMC route but with actual models and more new content, will be an launch title for the new Sony handheld system and will be released in a few months for PS4 and PC.

- New Persona 5 updated version (PS4, PC) - Enhanced version of Persona 5 with new content and huge graphical updates (since the PS3 version will be dropped), planned to be released early 2020.

Atlus USA is also working right now on a PC port of Persona 5 that will be released in november of this year with all DLC available for free at launch.

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>>377428983
Yeah, at my house.

>>377428836
>In P3 you have a goal
Yeah and literally nothing happens until october
>P5 is just Saturday morning cartoon after Saturday morning cartoon episode in terms of arcs for the sake of getting a new party member
It actually has better pacing. While you deal with diferent enemies per month, ultimately most of them were linked by a common thread

>>377429193
>It actually has better pacing.
Huehue.

>>377428836
>clear objective
Sure, they kill some shadows on the full moon, but they are just listening to orders, not sure it will work, and don't even know if there is a top to tartarus or what they are looking for up there until January.
They start to hate each others guts, and wonder what the point is past their selfish reasons, and only get their shit together after a tragedy half way through the game.

>>377429254
Nothing happens in P3 until the Hanged Man fight.
Probably the worst paced game ever made.

>>377429254
Not an argument

>>377429284
And? They still have a goal to accomplish. Your opinión doesn't mean shit.

>>377429348
>I have ADHD please rape my face.

>>377429193

The pacing is all over the place in P5. I wouldn't say it is an improvement at all. Just different.

Everything is slow in p3/4 except for the very end. It is arguably worse in P5 because it flip flops between developing incredibly slow and incredibly fast until the end of the game where it fucking skyrockets for 3 months and then the game ends. The slow parts seem so much slower than they actually are because of it.

>>377429520
>Game takes 7 months to pick up
>Better pacing than P5

>>377423263
I mean, it's good and all, but it's nothing incredible. I think Nocturne is a great game too, but music wise, Persona is miles ahead.

>>377429529
Delete the last panel, copy the right one and put a red background and is accurate.

>>377429564
>Everything is slow in p3/4 except for the very end. It is arguably worse in P5 because it flip flops between developing incredibly slow and incredibly fast until the end of the game where it fucking skyrockets for 3 months and then the game ends. The slow parts seem so much slower than they actually are because of it.
That's better though? It means the game has different highs and lows instead of being low all the way through and only catching up at the end.

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>>377423194
>Excuse me that I enjoy actual games
This is a joke, right? Nobody can be this far up their own ass.

>>377429667
>I need a massive revelation or a new bad guy defeated everytime otherwise it doesn't progress WAAAAAAAAAAH

Yeah, ADHD. I don't know how this meme even started.

>>377429774
>but music wise, Persona is miles ahead.
Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q8nQbsX0Y4

>>377429867
>Says as he post "muh waifu"
Personacucks.

>>377428836
But you just described, why Persona 5 pacing is better.
Story is enganing, because you dont know how will things develop, and you also have constant hints about the man in the black mask etc. And then you have individual palaces and stories bout them.

In Persona 3 you just get a single objective that is a long distanced from you and almost nothing happens in-between. Even full-moon operations soon "evolve" into cutscene + fight, when the first two-three at least had some exploration segments. And don't even let me start about tartarus slog.

>>377429887
>I don't know how this meme even started.
Probably because nothing happens in P3 for months at a time, Strega is an incredibly uninteresting and largely uninvolved villain and the story doesn't pick up until November.

At the very least in 4 and 5 things are constantly advancing the plot forward.

>>377423263
I think the battle music is the best part of Nocturne's soundtrack

>>377430018
>Story is enganing
I don't know how fighting a bunch of secondaries that have nothing to do with the actual main character's being in prison can be engaging to you.

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>>377425290
/v/ is the only place I've seen where people don't like Persona 4. If anything, you're the contrarians.

>>377430110
>At the very least in 4 and 5 things are constantly advancing the plot forward.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>377430124
This one in particular, wish we had Nocturne DLC so I could get this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RiHmQcHa84

>>377429812

How is it better? It isn't like the plot is progressing or things are actually being developed. 75% of Persona 5 is still just amassing party members and then the group finally starts to actually figure shit out and go from there.

Persona 5 is literally periods of absolute inactivity where nothing is figured out, a slow dungeon, then a boss fight where a revelation is hinted at 3 times before it actually goes anywhere.

It makes the whole game feel dragged out.

I'd honestly deal with P3/4 pacing standards where you can at least get used to how slow the game is, rather than being teased with plot elements every 5 hours just to get dropped back into a slog.

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>>377428937
>

>>377430234
>4
>Rescue someone from the TV world, advance their character arc and slowly begin to unravel the mystery all which leads to the climax

>5
>Each month take down a new villain, things begin to buildup and connect to Shido which leads to the game's main conclusion

>3
>Full moon fight which adds nothing to the story at all

Let's just face it, P3 has the worst pacing in a game bar none.

>>377430234
>p3 fags argument
Ok, we get it, it was your first persona, but you dont need to blindly defend it

>>377428937
MY NIGGA

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>>377418564
I just wanna see how they translate Despair ailment into a fighting game.

>>377429437
Well yes, you have a goal to accomplish in pretty much every game. Some just don't have the same incentive to keep you going as others. I like persona 3, don't get me wrong, but from a fresh perspective with no previous knowledge, P3's pacing is a slog. Tartarus and its dungeon crawling feels like a chore in the way of social links, which is funny, since I love dungeon crawling in the SMT games.

>>377430234

>At the very least in 4 and 5 things are constantly advancing the plot forward.
>literally N O T H I N G happens in 4 until 80% of the way through the game
>in 5 80% of the way through the game the Phantom Thieves have achieved absolutely nothing and completely out of no where go from being a group of actual retards who get manipulated at every turn to masterminds to construct an entire plot to push the story forward

>>377429925
See
>>377430397

>>377430397
>but music wise, Persona is miles ahead.
Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbT5T35aUUE

>>377429059
Why are PCocks the most desperate piles of waste on the planet? Just buy a PS4 you day dreaming loser.

>>377411904
>video games sell more today than they did 10 years ago
WOWWWWWIEE

>>377430463
>Rescue someone from the TV world, advance their character arc and slowly begin to unravel the mystery all which leads to the climax
>"Hey guys, we didn't learn Jack shit in the last 8 months. Oh by the way that delivery guy looks like a rapist, he's the criminal!. No actually, the bad guy is...yeah, Adachi, because...oh yeah, the pólice were guarding my inn! HOW COULD I FORGET THAT PART DURR HURR!? Nevermind a chick that touched my hand is the mastermind and that is the wife of my Persona, the lore is SO DEEP"

>Each month take down a new villain, things begin to buildup and connect to Shido which leads to the game's main conclusion
>"Well, I think is time to kill you since you got all your party members, nothing personnel phantom thieves!"

Just shut the fuck already, you fucking cocksucker.

>>377430679

>why isn't this music that is obviously designed to set the tone and mood of a ominous location not H Y O P E as hell and filled with orchestral choir music and chanting

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I'm a P3fag and even I have to admit that P5 is simply the better game. Putting music aside which is too subjective to judge P5 is simply better because it's gameplay is vastly better and you literally can't even argue this, it's a disputed fact. Dungeons and combat in P5 are 100 times better than Tarturus which is the biggest bane in P3. Also in P5 we get arching villains for each month who are decently written, while in P3 we just fight a nameless shadows we know nothing about at the end of the month and no real villain appears until near the end of the game.

>>377430902
>I'm a P3fag
No you're not.

>>377430902
>for each month who are decently written
You lost me there.

5/10 bait.

>>377430864
Not an argument.

>>377430679
See
>>377430397

>>377430901
You can make music that sets the mood without it being utter shit like Mementos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNbGxDgcZh0

>>377430864

>things begin to buildup and connect to Shido which leads to the game's main conclusion

Except they don't. Literally no one suspects Shido until Sae connects the dots between their circumstances and him purely through anecdotal evidence after her change of heart.

>>377427973
There are a surprising number of people (even games critics) who seem to play RPGs only for story and consider actually going in dungeons and fighting turn based battles as filler

>>377431030
Is okay, let the adults talk and fuck off.

>>377411904
The way this game is shilled on /v/ by EOPs, how does that come as any surprise?

>>377411904

True merit goes for P3 and P4 for making the franchise well known.

P5 had it easy. It only had to hold the ball.

>>377430991
I still prefer Persona 3 over Persona 5 because of sentinmental reasons but even I'm not so much of a contranian asshole as to believe P5 is a straight up improvement over P3/4.

>>377431002
As opposed to the villians in P3 who are oscar worthy right?

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>>377430304
Nocturne had some groovy shit
posting favorite remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRzaw1yCKGw

>>377412607
IS, EP and 3 are the only good Persona games.

>>377431101
>but music wise, Persona is miles ahead.
Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_oZzqGVWE

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>>377411904
That's nice. Can they stop making us wait 6 months after the Japanese release to get the games now?

>>377431520

sweatshop was the only redeeming factor of that shitty palace

not everything has to be electronic synth shit to be good, anon

>>377431520
>he doesn't like Sweatshop

nigger, kill yourself

>>377431454
>As opposed to the villians in P3 who are oscar worthy right?

This. P3 villains were forgettable as fuck except for Nyx.

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>>377413301
Maybe not PC, but why is a Switch release unbelievable?

>>377413385
This the dynamic of ryuji and Morgana hating on each other and Ann breaking it up while youske is off being autistic is amazing

>>377431454
>As opposed to the villians in P3 who are oscar worthy right?
There are like, 3 villains at best in the game and two of them are going to die and just want to watch the world burn with their own eyes.

In P3 you mostly face forces of nature and antagonists, while in P5 you face pathetic social commentaries.

Of course, I don't expect P5faggots to understand the difference between villain and antagonist.

>>377431815

>p3 villains were forgettable as fuck

I mean, you can shit on P3 for what ever, but don't think for one second that Revolver Jesus wasn't fucking great.

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>>377431815
>P3 villains
>Forgettable
Have a pity (You) for such weak bait.

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>>377431520
>didn't like sweatshop
It's no Whims of Fate but come the fuck on anon.

>>377425471

Teddy was great nigga

>>377431520
>not hating the actual worst song on the ost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbT5T35aUUE
at least sweatshop had some not shit beats

>>377432025
As a fuccboi*

>>377431930
>>377431932
I'm surprised you guys even remember White Jesus name.

Destrega was greatly underutilized. I still have a soft spot for P3 since it was my first one. But not because of these guys.

>>377431147

but the Mementos tune is not shit though. You just had an expectancy for something and the game did not give it to you.

>>377422630
Female persona falls for Mc through out the game she sacrifices her self to save to Mc's world

>>377432236
He's Revolver Jesus and a giant prick.

Also

>Persona 3
>Forgettable villains

lol, you mean Atlus hasn't been railing hard on Nyx Avatar's dick in both P4 and P5 because it was such an awesome villain with great atmosphere? Every Persona final boss now is constantly compared to Nyx's Avatar for a good reason.

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>>377411904
Best waifus

>>377432256
>but the Mementos tune is not shit though.
>being this contrarian

>>377432426
>THE ARCANA IS THE MEANS BY WHICH ALL IS REVEALED
>I UNLEASH UPON YOU THE DEADLY SIN OF ____, THE ______ OF MANKIND SHALL BRING FORTH ______

>P5fags unironically defend this blatant rehash of Nyx

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>>377412818
>le golden big smiling face

>>377432426
Strega was a disappointment, Nyx was a good final boss but not a good antagonist.

>>377431930
>>377431932
>They liked Strega
What the fuck?

>>377432426

That's why i said "except for Nyx", which i agree, it's a memorable villain.

Then again, you don't even know about Nyx for like 70% of the game. Destrega and full moon bosses were meh.

P4/P5 are just better on that regard since the menace is more palpable.

Most of the P5 cast felt underutilized unless they were Morgana, Makoto or Futaba.

>>377431148
The ones who discover Shido being the one behind everything is the PT, anon. And they learn in his palace that he has been manipulating them indirectly since July

>>377433136
That's because everyone else is entirely irrelevant to the story, the only time they show any semblance of relevancy is during their respective palace.

>>377433150

They figure it out in Leblanc with Sae after like 5 minutes of hasty discussion, then finally confirm it after MC finally remembers the face of the man that ruined his life less than a year ago, after somehow forgetting that important detail.

>>377423263
Nocture's OST was pretty good. Battle themes were great, especially the one against Ahriman/Baal/Noah.

None of them top Rivers in the Desert though

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>>377430341
>How is it better? It isn't like the plot is progressing or things are actually being developed. 75% of Persona 5 is still just amassing party members and then the group finally starts to actually figure shit out and go from there.
Amassing party members is collateral effect of advancing the plot. It's better than P4 where your group just reacts to shit until november


>I'd honestly deal with P3/4 pacing standards where you can at least get used to how slow the game is, rather than being teased with plot elements every 5 hours just to get dropped back into a slog.
You have no idea what proper pacing is.

>>377432503

>say something is not shit
>just means you love it

>>377424841
Really late reply, but even if you tried playing it like that Persona 5 isn't built to play on the go at all, it's hard to pick up and down if you're actually dungeon crawling. A hypothetical Switch version would probably be changed to make it easier to play in small intervals as opposed to clearing like a couple of hours to play it.

It's not going to ever release on the Switch anyways. Persona is a Sony series

>>377433136
Everybody would be dead without Ryuji
>>377433467
Nope, you need your memory checked. They listen to Akechi's conversation with Shido on the cellphone, afterwards Sojiro gives the suggestion that it could be Masayoshi Shido

>>377433559
Chihaya and Kawakami should be switched around

>>377433618

>Amassing party members is collateral effect of advancing the plot. It's better than P4 where your group just reacts to shit until november

If you can chalk this up to a positive in 5 yet dismiss it in 4 as a negative then I don't even know what to say. Pure delusional fanboyism.


Also, I didn't say I did know what proper pacing is, but it is evident that neither is a good example of it, cakeboi. I have my preferences and you have yours.

>>377433838
Yeah Akechi for no real reason other than his own incompetence called Shido by name over phone.

Sex with Futaba !

>>377433838

chalk one up for mary sue hacker girl advancing the plot yet again

>>377431610
April release was actually well thought from Atlus because it was a slow month on everything that isn't Nintendo

>>377434039
>Character is shown to be good with technology
>Character uses said knowledge to help the Phantom Thieves

>Muh Mary Sue hacker girl meme

>>377425471
I like Teddie. Better than that fuckboy Yosuke.

>>377434229

>characer that coincidentally happens to also just live right next to MC happens to be literally the best hacker in the world and if she wasn't literally the best hacker in the world and perfect with everything technology related, they would have been completely fucked

really activates my almonds

>>377428149
>In P3 literally nothing happens for 3/4 of the game.

Persona 3 just copied Evangelion's plot structure and also basic plot. It's an episodic monster of the week game until about 75% of the game is done, then it shoots in scale. The last monster is even a human boy that's drawn to the protagonist that the characters in the game have to discuss whether to kill or not.

Then Atlus went and copied Eva again, more literally this time with DeSu2. Someone at Atlus really likes Eva, apparently.

>>377425229
>Infested the series with waifufags.
That has been the case since P3.

>>377430170
/v/ contrarianism is annoying

>>377425659
The NDP(aka North America) numbers show that MK8 outsold P5. http://ca.ign.com/articles/2017/05/18/mario-kart-takes-first-but-persona-5-shows-strong-in-npd-results-for-april-2017

>>377424960
Is this a shitpost? Persona 5 is the exact same game.

>>377434229
Makotofags are cancer, more news at 11.

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>>377434442
>Persona 5 is the exact same game.
What did he mean by this?

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Does she have fluff on the muff?

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>>377434541
>implying anyone plays Persona for the dungeons.

It has the same character archetypes and the same ending. Persona 3 has the excuse of being the first persona made in the current mold it's in, Persona 4 has the excuse of only being in development for a year and a half tops Persona 5 however had a 4 year development time. Why the hell did Atlus just rehash P3 again?

>>377431818
Switch makes perfect sense. People like playing dungeon crawlers on handhelds, and a vita version of P5 is something that many people would have enjoyed just for that reason.

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>>377431818
Persona is a Sony series. It won't be on a handheld unless Sony makes another one.

>>377434738

Don't you mean WHY DOES NO ONE WANT CHANGE?

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>>377434884

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>>377434569
>>377434884
I DATED HARU FOR THE FLUFF AND I COULD NOT BE ANY HAPPIER.

>>377434738
If no one plays Persona for the dungeons then why is that half the game, why not just make them full out visual novels at that point.
You can't just say that people that like Persona don't play it for half the game. 5's quality utter annihilates 3 and 4's.

>the best hacker in the world that lives right next to you
>the girl that goes to your school who's sister is the civil prosecutor that is on your case
>the ace defective who also happens to go to your school
>the girl that ALSO goes to your school who's father happens to be the ceo of a massive foods franchise

boy all these """"""coincidences""""" haha its almost like everything is being manipulated by some unseen force

>>377434921
They'll be forced to change for the next game. Persona 5's cast will be the least memorable out of the 3 games because they're literally just the same characters as the first two rehashed a third time. People will forget Makoto long before anyone forgets Naoto for example. Rise and Yukari will be more popular than Ann, Yosuke will be more popular than Ryuji, Teddie will be more popular than Morgana and etc.

Boys sure are strong

>>377435037

>If no one plays Persona for the dungeons then why is that half the game

Because the entire series has always had dungeons to facilitate the combat. It's a design decision that is barely thought about anymore.

>>377435119
It's Japan. It's a tiny island nation where there's too much fucking concentration, and on top of that, one of the most if not THE most populated city of Japan. And yes, it probably is some unseen force seeing as though the apocalypse really REALLY wants to go down in Japan and nowhere else except for that one time in the first Persona game.

>>377435037
It's a bit of a stretch to say that the gameplay is half the game. Especially in Persona 5, which is 100 hours long and the majority of that is cutscenes and text.

>>377435119
There's a reason why most people believe Persona 5 is the worst written game in the series.

>>377435119
Your welcome

>>377435139

It'll be a good number of years before a Persona 6 comes out around in any case.

>>377433493
The overworld theme in Nocturne when you're at the end game gives me such a boner. It's Meguro at his finest IMO.

https://youtu.be/Go0JWfE9nEw?t=16

THE GUITAR RIFF, MY FUCKING DICK.

Going from SMT3 Nocturne to Persona 3 and still maintaining his A game is the stuff of legends, what a composer.

>>377435351

Who the fuck are you?

>>377435412
Mah nigger

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>>377434927
>>377434975
Haru and Joker are so cute together.

>>377435380
They'll take longer than they really need to, especially since I'm probably wrong and they're going to rehash the plot and characters again. Atlus has to milk the shit out of the series until people hate the characters more than they already do before they make a new game, after all.

If you think Haru's sadism is annoying now wait until Atlus makes it literally her only character trait. I hope you like Ann's "acting" because it's going to be 90% of her dialogue in spinoffs.

Is p5....dare I say it....the best jrpg ever?

>>377435139
According to the sales numbers for most people this will be their first persona game so the characters being rehashed doesn't matter for them.

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>>377435620

>>377435563
Not even close, it probably isn't even the best Persona game.

>>377435412
This track should have been the Tower of Kagutsuchi

It was criminally underused

>>377435653
It's the best Persona game I've played, and I played all three.

>>377435469
You should have known that I'd be back with demon shaped shadows being back

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>>377435519
>Reaching Rank 10 with Haru

I'm dying from all this cute. Haru's just perfect.

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>>377411904
>P5A basically confirmed.

Maining Ryuji day 1.

Fluff is murder

>>377435765
Oh, anon. You're hopeless.

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>>377435765
>Not maining Shido

>>377435653
Best one ive played, didnt play 1 or 2 tho cause they look hella dated

Whoa stop the fucking presses, are you telling me that a PS2 title that came out in 2008 more than two years after the PS3's launch didn't sell as much as the next game on an incredibly popular system with much more marketing behind it? Stop the fucking presses!

>>377435563
Honestly, maybe.

>>377435519
The way she keeps her eyes open when she rests her massive 5head on your shoulder makes it look as if she just died.

>>377435563
At least until Persona 6

>>377435765
>mfw I get to beat up that fucking asshole cat

>>377435732
Good thing there are 6 Persona games.

>>377436159
No, I'm pretty sure Persona 5 is the third game in the series.

>>377436045
P3fag detected

>>377429529
>I didn't choose the thug life
>The thug life chose me

oh fuck this is actually true

>>377432481
source man

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>>377436107
Oh Skull you're pathetic.

I know I'm in the minority here but I like P4 the best because I felt the quality was more consistent throughout. I'm right in the final dungeon and I've lost all will to play, while in P4 I was still enjoying it up to the very end

P5 has an excellent start but by the time I got to the boat I didn't care anymore

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>>377435765
I'm pretty sure P5A was basically confirmed a while ago with the director of P4A expressing interest in a sequel and then all the domain names registered.

I hope Haru isn't a Naoto-type trapper/zoner/stage control. That's boring and also I want to play more Haru.

>>377436489
Do you like faceless fat middle aged men?

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>>377436501
P5A cant come soon enough

>>377413147
Right. Because no game on PC ever has DLC that could be avoided with mods.

Nope. None at all.

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>>377436806
>Those bazongas
>The Persona 5 protagonist gets to fuck Haru night after night

Lucky bastard.

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>>377436806
>implying Haru won't be a psychotic maniac

>>377420645
Elizabeth & Aigis best waifus

>>377436853
I'm open minded

Post your favorite themes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mpWBHtX_c

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>>377428937
Perfectly fits its dungeon, albeit a bit repetitive. One of those tracks that only work in context
>>377427602
I doubt these spin-offs occupy any of the Persona devs, don't they mostly ship them off to third parties?

Chihaya is best girl

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>>377437012
>Elizabeth
Not even the best Velvet Room attendant
Not even the 2nd or 3rd best attendant

>>377428061

You can't say something like that and just not back it up.

>>377436965

It's a shame that you never spend long enough on any single floor in Mementos to hear this shit.

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>>377420449

>>377437237
You do if you're waiting to farm Reapers.

>>377433891
In P4, it isn't a collateral effect, you know that everyone you save will most surely become your party member if they're not assholes
>I have my preference
Yours is shit pacing

>>377416891
I think it's such a shame Haru is introduced so late, she's got the sort of personality you don't see much in jRPGs anymore. Though, I must admit that older ojous have always been my type.

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>>377437281
>Want to enjoy Mementos banter
>Any action you do immediately interrupts all the dialog
I've just been reading them all off a website that documented them all.

>>377411904
How the fuck did normies find out about Persona??

>>377437432
Link?