The Surge bread

>>377407190
I don't think anyone bought it

i really hate the song they play in the safe area

>>377407190
I like how the game uses hitbox porn as a mechanic. There are no iframes on most things, but you can dodge attacks by simply not being in the way of it.

The slide, for example, brings you under most attacks including spin attacks from bosses.

>>377407190
Been playing it. It's not that bad but the levels are shit. You don't put a progression hallway behind shit.

>>377407450
I like that it serves a purpose in the lore. Wait for the final boss.

>>377407190
i like it more than Souls because the game actually requries you to dodge attacks instead of just abusing i-frames aka pressing roll at the right time like a QTE

>>377407190
Can you play as a qt girl in this?

>>377407190
How is the exploration? I love the souls games because they manage to reward exploration like no other game I've played.

>>377407440
Weird because I did

Might pirate it when I don't wanna tackle my backlog and see how it is but it certainly does not look appealing.

I'll pirate it and never play it, like other Souls games

I only just entered the 2nd area and I already feel like I'm going to get a problem if I keep using dual wieldy weapons..

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>>377407190
>no character creator
>terrible VA
>terrible story
>derivative Souls-like combat
>knock-off Destiny aesthetic

>hurr durr PC master race amirite?

Fucking almighty kek.

>>377407741
You won't find a whole lot of exploration here. The entire game takes place in an industrial complex which is divided up into 5 main areas with 1 boss each. Each area has around 10-15 rooms to explore, each of which connect to the main hub (bonfire) in the area through shortcuts you'll have to find. Level design is small but tight due to a smart use of verticality as well.
The world and how it everything connects is tight, but it works. It's nothing special, it's merely functional.

>>377407190
not even worth the pirate

>>377407806
No you didn't

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>>377407450
'CAUSE I WAS ALWAYS AS FREE
AS I WANTED TO BE

>>377407987
Great shitpost. Here's your (you).

>>377408010
Finding shortcuts is one of my favorite feelings in Souls games. More so than beating a boss, a lot of the time. Might check out when it's on sale in the future.

I'm in the second area but I feel really directionless. Like Farron Keep tier. I have no idea where I am on the map or what I'm supposed to do. The entire map is just a series of samey intersecting corridors so it's not like you can ever see where you need to go. Recycling, Link 2, these mean fucking nothing to me. I just explore a corridor and hope the next corridor doesn't take me back to where I was 5 minutes ago.

There was this area where I could kill like half a dozen of these leaping robots and they dropped +6 core boosting implants if you cut off their "tail." I wanted to go back and see if they respawn so I could stack those and open those high level doors early but I legit couldn't find my way back.

>>377407190
>game looks like doom 3
>8gb of ram MINIMUM to run at all

>>377407505
Too bad the hitboxs are garbo

>>377408168
>2017
>Not having at least 16 gb ram

>>377408146
Surge does shortcuts incredibly well
One of the best thing about the game

>>377407741
>souls games because they manage to reward exploration like no other game I've played

That's because you've only played shit games, for a sack of shit like yourself.

4th area feels like fucking cancer.
Flamethrows+Gas everywhere+Shield Drones
not to mention 4+ guys in every room

Having a ton of fun with the staff from the security guys. The single rigged from the first boss was great for a while, but bots don't give a shit about stagger.
Is there a good strategy for killing the smelter in the acid pool? The enclosed space and acid burn keeps fucking me up

>>377408168
It runs like shit too given how unimpressive it looks.

>>377407806
So did I. Was worth it for 30 bucks.

So, what weapon should I use? Just beat the 2nd boss

>>377408615
Every weapon is just a sparkly club that attaches to your forearm, so who cares?

>>377408557
It really doesn't. Haven't had a single drop running this maxed out at 1440p on a 290.
You might want to turn off v-sync.

>>377408615
Whatever works. It's easy to maintain two or three weapons at highest upgrade and switching up can make some enemies or bosses way easier.

>>377408168
>game graphics
>touching system RAM

Do you still live in 2004 when DOOM 3 was released?

What's the cap for weapon skills? My one handed is at 13 but everything else is at 0 or 1 because that early sword weapon felt so much better to use than anything else I had.

>>377408152
Look out for maps against walls and obvious landmarks.
There are two areas where in Area 2 that have many enemies blocking your path, but you don't even have to fight them. For me, they served as a marker of where I am in proximity to where I was. You'll see it when you end up behind them, it'll be an "ooooooooh" moment

>>377408754
The guy asking for meds seems like he's about to freak out after the 2nd boss, is the medicine in this area? I feel like he's gonna die if I progress any more.

Problems this game has from most to least severe:

Linearity - Zone progression, and because of that, gear progression, game progression, gear upgrades and chip upgrades are all linear. You can't rush a specific weapon or boss. Every zone is done in order, as is every boss. You cannot go to other areas before the game lets you.

Five Bosses - Self explanatory.

Same-Face-Copy-Paste Enemies - 60% of the enemies you fight are guys in power suits just like you, that all require the same strategy. Dodge the first attack, then attack their unarmored spot until they die. If they're entirely armored, you may have to dodge again. Some of the robots are kind of cool but end up being tedious when you have to fight a bunch of them in a row (especially the monkey-like ones)

>>377409107
no, it's in the next area. there is an audio log on your area that says it makes people go crazy

>>377409256
So, should I NOT give it to him?

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>check out a guide on how to beat pax after 3 deaths dealing zero damage to him
>apparently he was supposed to get stunned after i hit him a couple of times
>never happened
A-am i doing something wrong? Also, when do i unlock two handed weapons?

This run like ass for anyone else? I have a 1060 6gb and an i7 6700k and I can't get 60fps unless I drop it down to medium.

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>Purple monster boss kills me in one his with every little action it does
>AI breaks when i kill it. Just fucking stands there and i need to quit to the menu.

>>377409392
Nah you just gotta hit him harder. You can get the 2-handed claws from the dude patrolling on the walkway up top.

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>first area
>go far away from safe room
>explore some underground area
>rack up tons and tons of scap
>go back the exact way I came from to upgrade my shit
>boss fight out of fucking nowhere
>lose 1+ hour progress

Great design.
At least souls games let you prepare for boss boss battles with fog gates.
Also the leaping and super fap enemies seem to make heavy weapons not useful at all.

>>377409384
[SpoilerHe's already hooked. Doing it has no negative repercussions I've seen so far. Robot Apocalypse in Progress is hardly the right time for rehab if you ask me[/Spoiler]

>>377409601
550ti here and running fine at medium.

>>377409652
If you got the agility rig you can slip and slide into enemies with heavy weapons no problemo.

>>377407190
All of that fucking aliasing. Turn on some anti-aliasing holy shit.

>>377409675
I see, thanks anon o/

What weapon type did you like the most so far?
I'm fluctuating between one-handed and staff, but I wanna try and check the other ones out.

imagine being so desperate for souls content that you play a game made by the lords of the fallen developers

>>377409741
I downsample from 2K to 1080p so I don't actually get jaggies. They're only visible in the screens.

>>377409104
Yeah, those are the maps that don't help for shit. No verticality, no detail. And I did at least one of those parts. The one with that boring "attack the back" droid and a bunch of dudes on a bridge. It was incredibly obvious you could go around it.

>>377409756
Single Rigged for running R1R2+Execute on most humanoids
Staff as all purpose main, the one you get from Security is Excellent.
Double Rigged for certain situatons when pure speed is better than the staff's reach.

Couple Staff or Double with Counterweight or Elemental Damage and your DPS gets insane

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The thing about Souls clones - they all fucking suck at level design.

Surge, Nioh, LotF, Bloodborne.

>>377409601
I have a 770 4GB, I set everything to medium and turned off all graphical bells and whistles like AO, AA, subsurface scattering etc. and I still get frames drops frequently. It looks like a last gen game but runs worse than stuff like Ryse or Tomb Raider 2013.

>>377409601
works on my machine :)

Is there a way to escape boss fight with all my souls? With a homeward bone like item?

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From what I've seen the combat is as floaty as it was in LotF, so it's automatically prevents the game from being enjoyable above mediocre level. But that's not even my biggest complain because...

Holy shit this game looks absolutely awful. And I don't mean the graphics, I mean the visual design is absolute trash intern tier.
Every level looks the same. Absolutely unrecognizable generic "technological" environments: junkyard, factory, storage, etc.
Same goes for the enemies and the player character himself.

The game's design is the blandest shit I've ever seen.

>>377409860
Ah my mistake then. Was going to ask how you play with staircases on everything.

>>377410465
>From what I've seen the combat is as floaty as it was in LotF
Except it's not. Attacks feel powerful and you can feel that energy on every swing. You haven't kicked a guy in the face with the single rigged yet? Start trying out different combos.

This is such a weird little game, isn't it?

Anyway I'm in the second area and getting my ass slapped around. Haven't made it to the second boss yet. I'm upgrading my hammer because I like hammers.

Should I start with Rhino or Lynx?

>>377410110
NVIDIA cards age like shit.

>>377410896
str vs dex

Is it just me or is there shit you just can't block?

Like that poison dude's charge attack (Third armor type dude that shows up, using a hazmat suit-like armor)

>>377411224
Yeah, combat mechanics rely more on dodging than actual blocking.

>>377407925
It's very playable on mouse and keyboard, plus you have access to quick save/load.

>>377410896
Lynx. No contest. Rhino is one of the worst sets in the game while lynx is in the top two and can carry you to endgame. Or at least far enough to get a gorgon set.

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Those fucking dogs in the third area are pure cancer. I hate fighting them and they just keep throwing them at me. Also WHO the fuck thought it was a good idea to put one of those big smelter bots in the middle of acid? With enemies surrounding it? What the fuck. Took me like an hour to finally get the perfect run and kill it.

>>377408382
Try wearing the liquidator gear set for elemental resist, it halves the acid damage.

>>377410026
And another reason why heavy weapons are shit when fast weapons scale ridiculously with flat added damage bonuses.

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Holy shit, heavy weapons are a joke.
Im disappointed

>>377411885
Just wait till you get to the fourth area when the dogs get a ranged stun attack to go with their homing lunge. At least it's telegraphed heavily. And you get a free ancillary core with each tail cut.

>>377411224
You can block it. You just can't keep your weapon in blocking mode for longer than a couple seconds.

>>377409392
After You fill the orange bar, he will go to a side, far from you, run towards him and stay under his belly, he will throw the missiles at you, hitting himself in the process.

>>377407652
this

>>377407987
why are (you)'s so important to some people, are they unloved?

>>377411885
An easy way to beat the dogs is to repeat dash attacks and dodge back. When they telegraph their bullshit charge, dash attack to stagger them.

>>377411885
just lunge attack their eye and dash when they're halfway through their jump

>>377411885
The guy in the acid has four corners in his room where you can stand and he cannot reach you
In case you haven't learned his like, 4 moves, just wait for him to spread the hydro slow thing where his sides open, then slide in, do a few attacks, and back away. Regent stamina, and/or health if you lost any, then continue

If that poison is actually giving you trouble, say if you're not using any Vital boost chips for some reason, you can farm the Liquidator gear off the flamethrower guys which gives you elemental resistance to negate the damage a bit

>>377409392
You have to earn your weapons. See those guys with the two-handed hammer? Take it from them.

Friendly reminder that the pax v2 is hands down the best single rig weapon in the game and is absolutely worth putting up with the bullshit boss requirements unless you want to try again in ng+. Also ng+ is bugged as fuck and can lock you out of armor pieces for good. Also the new enemy spawns don't respawn so you get one or two slightly harder encounter in a area ONCE then it's the same grind but with a few more upgrade tiers. No new weapons or armor.

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Does defense actually matter here or is it like Souls were armor are just there to look cool?
Im using the full Rhino set, but i feel like im way too slow and not enough tanky.

>>377412960
You gotta pair defense with HP, and preferably the regen injection
Otherwise, heavy armor is more for Poise than defense as far as I've noticed

I actually like the character/equipment aesthetics, but I really wish the levels looked better, or at least looked more significantly different. After DS3 I am really happy to play a game where the roll equivalent isn't an infinite-use get out of jail free button.

>>377412960
The mobs will kill you in 2 or 3 hits so.. defense does nothing.
They gives some bonuses, like less stamina usage, and something like that

>>377412960
>>377413117
I want to say this is correct. Stability is so important if you're not going to be dodging.

>>377413237
It's especially important since you don't need to "cast" your heals. As long as you are not doing it in the middle of an action, you can spam those heals no problem

>>377408304
Get some gear with elemental resistance

>>377412960
Defense is worthless. It only helps you survive one or two more hits at best. All of the armor is shit aside from the gorgon or lynx due to gorgon crazy good stamina regen and lynx attack speed+low cost of movement. All that paired with the fact that blocking is far inferior to just evading means there is zero reason to ever use a heavy armor over those two.

>>377412960
it'll be more worthwhile in NG+ where you can actually take a few hits without exploding into treats.

first playthrough? not so much

>>377413482
Dodging lets you get away at the cost of positioning.
Blocking lets you counter attack with a stagger.
They're both situational, but it's clear that heavier weapons are better for blocking.

>>377413589
>more worthwhile in ng+
It's really not. Having three v5 hp enhancers is doing most of the work.

>>377413624
>cost of positioning
>when the dash attack is one of the strongest
Yeah I guess if you are trying to trade blows rather than zipping in and out. But that's not nearly as effective. And the counter is not as good as it seems. Not to mention unblockable moves.

How do I fucking survive in this game? Overall problems I'm having with this game is that all of the enemies deal 3/4ths my hp in damage. The problem being that all of the enemies are formidable enough to decimate the player, I believe, not like in Souls in the least. In this game it seems you can just run past every little obstacle, since nothing follows, so that's what I've been doing to avoid having my anus prolapsed from all these security staves in me.

>>377413798
>And the counter is not as good as it seems
Apart from a backstab, that's the most damage you can deal with a single attack (or two attack as with some weapons)

>>377414215
If you've reached the security part, then you just need to fight them differently
Abuse unarmored parts and learn for how long you can stun them before they can get an attack off
Learn to block/parry. Pressing block a second or right before an attack hits you will usually stagger them and also open up for a counter attack, as in a literal special attack that's done after a successful block

>>377409652

Maybe you should have been paying attention when you turned on the power.

>>377414252
It's not worth the tradeoff of possibly getting hit. (with single rigged) it's also just an attack you can use as part as a normal combo without the bother of the enemy missing half the strike from getting thrown back. And backstab is so situational and unlikely to come up it might as well not be there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSx9ytVqPAs

Just...

>>377414215
Im still early in the game but what worked for me so far is
>enemy using heavy weapon
>dodge first and then do 2~3 attacks
>repeat
>enemy using fast weapons
>defend first and then counter attack +2~3 attacks
>repeat

Im also using a big fucking hammer, which helps a lot.

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>>377413798
>>377414438
Counter attacks are really strong, and the jump and duck mechanics available through blocking are really overpowered. I think you might not have been using them.

>(with single rigged) it's also just an attack you can use as part as a normal combo
my video will show you otherwise

>>377414438
It's a unique attack

Also, of course backstabs are situational, but you can perform them on any humanoid enemy, once you learn the move that opens up their back
Backstabs make the 4th boss a joke

>>377414582
Yeah, that little hop attack is absolustly part of a combo you can do. I don't remember the buttons on hand but you can do it all the time. Sure, you can learn block and dodge timing but it's significantly easier, safer, and sometimes faster kills when you just dash attack-small combo-evade and half the time they were ready to execute after the dash-combo.

>>377414932
Horizontal vertical horizontal horizontal horizontal. Single rigged.

>>377414932
Never faster imo, and in this part and the end of the game, only safer if you're not gonna land in poison shit or dodge off a ledge.
Both have their uses, it's all about situations.

>>377415202
Er, my bad I think that's backward. It's rt rb rt rt rt anyway.

>>377414582
That looks janky as fuck. Is this just one webm or is it like this the whole game? This looks worse than lords of the fallen desu.

>>377408146
I'm only to my 3rd area and holy shit Central Production B kicked my ass with its winding level design and confusing pathways. The fact such a huge area had to make shortcuts back to the same checkpoint no matter how far you stray really makes for some great design in how things are physically structured.

Sadly that also looks like the biggest place on the "map" so not sure if the later areas can compete

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>Firebug Throttle 2.0 R2/R2/R1
>Massive damage and a free dodge backwards.

I'll never get tired of using this thing.

>>377408152
I had the same problem for a long time, once you get all the areas opened up its actually really simple to wrap your head around.

As for those robots they dont respawn but that are some in later areas that do so you can farm that.

Dont farm for it, it doesn't let you open doors just go beyond you max capacity for loadouts

>>377412125
Stagger

If your being knocked around in a corner then you can quite literally flatten them once you get that first move to push them off balance.

>>377409652
Every weapon style works pretty well, you have to dodge and slide. Be faster than them.

As for what your saying, I had the exact same thing happen, then I realized the boss room was 30 seconds from the checkpoint because I'm not an idiot

>>377415802
That guys sucks and is using the heavy weapon type without good combos.

Ultra heavy is where its at imo

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>>377416278
Oh fuck ya

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>>377416196
>Central Production B

How does this place connect 3 areas together so damn well?

Really, I was actually surprised they were able to do something like this compared to LotF.

Sucks that areas arent properly connected but the levels themselves are pretty good in design and use plenty of verticallity.

Anyone else find SECRETS thanks to JUMPING?

All I got is this comic so far and I'm in area 3, Funny how they didnt use the item dealie to represent it since its not property of CREO

Fuck this game is short.
It also fell into the trap LoTF did where one set/weapon outshines everything else.

Thank you increased attack speed, I enjoyed shitting on everything that came my way

who else /killed the vending machine cult/ here?

>>377417338
what set increases attack speed?

Is there any way to purchase lower ranked parts, or do I really need to go back to the starting area with an unupgraded weapon to cut off low level trash for parts?

>>377417421
lynx
>>377417362
is there even any other option?

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>>377417362

If only they could have witnessed the coming of their god.

>>377417474
I was in area 3 and going back took like 1 min tops since I knew the way.

Its gay but I'm hoping the later areas will have more networking functionality. Maybe one is like a transport depot where you can reach all the others? I can only hope

>>377417625

I'm up to the Executive Wing and still haven't found any means of getting to every area quickly, unfortunately. Makes it somewhat annoying later on.

>>377412517
Do you really have to ask?

>>377417474
Why do you need lower rank parts?
Just farm the guys in your area and upgrade to the highest tier you have available. Prior upgrades are not required

>>377417625
materials processing(area 2) IS the hub. theres trains to area 1, 3, and 5(shortcut unlocked late in the level) there and its connected to 4 by the cargo cult bay door.

>>377417857

You need rank 1 parts to make the armor to begin with.

>>377417949
no you dont, you can jump straight to any level when you first make them as long as you have the parts and scrap. you dont need to level up from rank 1.

>>377417857
To make new sets that start at mk 0

Not him but since I make all sets I can always I had to backtrack in area 3 since I had to finish making 2 sets and going forward want giving me the stuff.

I havent even started upgrading because I have no idea what I like yet.

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Guys? Very important question here: is it better than Lords of the Fallen?

>Quick save/ Quick load in s souls clone
>Five bosses in total
I'm not saying I'll never play it but Jesus, the hell is the point if you can just cheese a game that's crazy short to begin with

>>377418120
By a massive margin.
Which isn't saying much since LoTF was red hot trash.

>>377418120
The gameplay is much more fun, but the plot and worldbuilding are worse if you can believe it.

>>377418120
as someone who enjoyed LOTF, yeah it is. feels like they tried to do their own thing this time instead of riding on the souls coattails.

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>>377418018

????

>>377407652
Tf do you mean, your're mad that you have to press the button at the right time??

Some of the combat encounters are fucking horseshit.
2 or more robodoggos, may as well just die.
Everything to do with those fucking hybrids with knockdown on every attack
Clawdudes using their running attack from a dead stop.

>>377418272
>[Q] [E]

>>377418272
I wonder what that little [Q][E] does?

>>377418309
he means that this game is more about actually dodging attacks hitbox-wise instead of just rolling at the right time to have i-frames.

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>>377417940
Okay that sounds interesting.

I kind of like that more honestly, hope its not too annoying which I really doubt because what you said makes perfect sence from what I've seen already but if only other games avoided warping.

>>377418120
I own LotF because denuvo and pirated this.

This is a million times better, since LotF was literaly poop and only good to waste time. I will probably want to do NG+ for once. Its also nothing like dark souls aside from dropping currency and having to get it back.

Speaking of NG+ are the super high level doors only going to be able to open on later playthroughs? Because fug

OH SHIT I FORGOT
THIS IS SO NEAT
press start when its a slow mo dismemberment for camera mode, note sure about kb

>>377407707
No way fag.

>>377408110
YOU CANNOT MISS
WHAT YOU AIN'T NEVER SEEN BEFORE

>>377418397
But the game does have I-frames.
I've been abusing them like a madman

>>377415802
yea, thats what i thought when i look at the gameplay trialers and wembs, but actually the game is very responsive.

>>377417224
>>377417224
>Anyone else find SECRETS thanks to JUMPING?
>All I got is this comic so far and I'm in area 3, Funny how they didnt use the item dealie to represent it since its not property of CREO

Anyone?
This is important, I'm a comic collector

>>377418351
>>377418383

Thanks guys, I'm just blind.

>>377418272
Keep pressing [E] until you see which ones of you have more

>>377418383
>>377418351
What a hot load of fuck.

I had no idea you could to that.

>>377407190
Why suddenly everyone is so positive about this game? Did I miss something?

>>377418538
Light weapons are pretty responsive when they don't decide to add a second attack for a single press during a combo.

Majority of the heavy rig stuff is bad, later on heavy stuff has amazing movesets that stun for eons

>>377407190
It's boring as fuck............
Run back to upgrade, have to deal with the shitty enemies............Repeat over and over again..

Snooze fest!

>>377409601
Something is wrong with your rig.

My HTPC in my living room gets 50-60FPS at 1080p on High. 2500K/1050Ti.

A 1060 shouldn't have any difficulty with this game.

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THE FUCK IS THE NAME OF THE MUSIC IN THE OPS CENTERS?
IT"S COMFY AS FUCK

>>377418687
Might try this game out then. It didn't have denuvo right? How's it run?

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>>377418687
>when they don't decide to add a second attack for a single press during a combo.

Thats because this game has combos, switch directions to do the moves you prefer

>>377416854
>mfw i got v2 without meaning to

>>377418946
You can miss it? I got it both runs

>>377407190
Got tired of every encounter being an ambush that kills you in two hits, and then the boss fights are the easiest shit ever. Even with quicksaving, all the enemies respawned each load once you reach the third area. Didn't help when enemies decide to hyperarmor out of your attacks with no windup.

I could have kept playing by suicide charging the checkpoints, but at that point I decided there are better games to play. The only thing I liked was the song they used in every, single safe area.

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FUCKING DAMMIT
No one has found a hidden item like this? They dont glow and this one was out of normal view until I jumped some boxes

Its hard to see put I pressed E to get the comic on the ground. Its in with the logs

>>377407440
I preordered it and don't regret it at all.
I fucking love the level design. The world is cut into maps, each map has a godly level design.
Only thing that is a bit weird is that the roll is not a roll but a dash. Meaning not going under lateral attacks and no invisibility frame.

>>377419302
There are quite a few, yeah

Some in very open, non-hidden areas too which just don't have an indication until you approach it

>>377418482
>I-frames.
on what?

>>377419402
Thats good to know about the ones in open areas. Are they for anything?

Are there any other secrets?
I can tell there are probably crazy shortcuts in certain levels with jumping

>>377416854
I don't want to be mean or anything but this looks gay as hell.

>>377419087
Its the easiest shit to get it is why.
Just cut off all the legs first

I just played nioh dlc and bloodborne start to finish back to back will this feed my hunger for muh souls that

>>377419475
Not him but The dash if I'm not mistaken.

Once you notice them it gets interesting to say the least. I still suck at this game though

>>377419543
Pretty sure this >>377417539 is the comics reward, haven't gotten it through myself

There are a few hidden items in general too, in boxes, behind boxes, on ledges etc. Like two Drones are fairly hidden

>>377418426
Looks like POLAKS SAVED VIDEO GAMES AGAIN!
t. totally not a pole

>>377419756
>muh souls
I dont think were in souls anymore fido.

3D action game with good level design?
Yes
The combat s love it or hate it.
Not souls though.
Pirate it and maybe get it on sale

>>377407190
I want to like it but the combat feels like ass

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>>377407190
Can I shoot things in this?

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>>377419785
>said I pirated it because fuck paying them twice for this shit

You got me. I was too obvious I know.
Can we still be friends?

>>377419941
No, kinda, you have a drone that can shoot.
Enemies can shoot you though

>>377419941
yeah you get a few guns

>>377420054
>>377420063
>no
>yes
Fuck you /v/. Cunts.

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>>377407190
Tbh the only good thing about this game is the fact that you can target different limbs and get gear based on which one you sever.

Too bad the game turns it into an enormous grind because the devs are retarded

I feel like this is the perfect rental game.

>>377420169
Have you tried turning it off and on again?

>>377407987
>he needs a game to be universally acclaimed by normalfags to back it up with a positive post
could you be any more transparent? whats it like to have absolutely no taste or personality?

CREO
You know who we are

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>Tfw the Gorgon set would have been perfect if the leg armor actually covered the upper thighs.
>The Cerberus legs go pretty well, but that loss of the massive stamina regen bonus hurts so bad.

>>377420169
what are you gay?

>>377420194
>Too bad the game turns it into an enormous grind
What?
When does this happen?

I just kept killing dudes and severing whatever parts I was lacking. Then once I've finished the level and get to OPS and use up my 50 or so parts

>>377418778
pls respond

I'm about to start up my game and head into the bio labs proper. After unlocking it all.

Any tips?

I need to remember to use camera mode for sweet screenshots.

>>377419784

You don't need the comics, you just need to take 5 Shining Coins to the vending machine in the cargo area.

>>377420235
>he needs a game to be universally acclaimed by normalfags to back it up with a positive post
I don't, though. How did you even manage to glean that from my post?

The Surge is an overly-short derivative piece of shit, like 90% of the other games on the market. How many normalfags do you see saying that?

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HARDCORE KILLS
>PAX - don't be a shitter and kite his missles back to him
>Firebug - chop all the legs off before killing this joke of a boss
>Big Sister - rush her with a quick single-rig or dual rig; don't destroy the welding arms
>Black Cerberus - rip his damn arms off
>Rogue Program - ??

>>377420530
>tfw you find his hanged body

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>>377419784
Sounds like a video game

>>377420326
Is it that important? I used it for a bit but found that stamina wasn't as important with one-handed

I just used several pieces from different gear that gave the best bonuses, like the Lynx legs, Proteus arms etc.

>>377420608
The stamina regen it gives is fucking massive.

>There's a black cerberus set
>you'll need to play the game 4 times to get the entire thing since it drops from a boss.

Fuck this shit

>>377420731
wiki says they drop from notblackphantoms on ng+

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>>377420326

>Cerberus set looks great, but the chest piece doesn't cover the entire stomach area.

>>377420483
>The Surge is an overly-short derivative piece of shit, like 90% of the other games on the market. How many normalfags do you see saying that?
>hurr durr so angry do I fit in yet guise??

>>377420483
>The Surge is an overly-short derivative piece of shit
have you played it? I'm enjoying it more than I enjoyed DaS3 just because it's something different.

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>>377421198
Of course I have. I wouldn't just shit on a game out of hand. Have YOU played it?

Another bore-fest like Souls games, give me challenging mass fights please.

>>377416854
Where do you get the flaming version i only got the normal version and it's fucking great.

>>377421293
>Of course I have. I wouldn't just shit on a game out of hand
You honestly want anyone on /v/ to believe this?

>>377421361
hardcoar kill on the boss you got normal version from

>>377421361
The second boss fight, someone earlier said you have to cut off all its legs before killing it.

>>377421293
>I wouldn't just shit on a game out of hand
where are we? what am I to think?
>have YOU played it?
yeah, that's why I said I'm enjoying it.

>>377421379
>>377421550
If the Peele .gif didn't didn't give it away, no, I haven't played it. I've watched an LP. If you want to say that invalidates my opinion, well, I can't stop you.

Okay guys I just had it crash reliably on loading but managed to fix it.

Basically it couldnt load my file in area 3 at the top of the stairwell overlooking the out side region. Loaded my other save just fine though and I know it was loading area 3 fine yesterday. When I was in OPS. Luckily I got it to load by switching displays and not running it through steam. So either the resolution or overlay may have been causing the issue?
Hope it doesnt happen to you guys, I was worried since thats my far file.

Also thats one thing I hate about this game.
Just like LotF all the enemies reset when you load so you cant quit mid play, your better off going to ops where you wont get ganked as soon as it loads.

>>377421739
you can have an opinion, but obviously playing the game instead of watching it forms a more valid opinion.

>>377421457
>tfw cut off all of the legs except the last one and killed it while being targeted on the last one.
fuk

>>377407190
I'm using the Scarab armor stacked up with health boosts and health packs. I wade in with the Titan Hammer and just swing until everything dies.

360 odd HP is enough to tank shit atm

>>377420731
>not just chopping his right arm off and getting the full set and the v2 weapon.

The hardest part of getting black cerb set was getting the scrap for it.

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>Tfw no black jumpsuit to wear under darker armor sets.

>>377422073
What?
I cut his arm off and got his weapon and the right arm, not the entire set.

>>377422073
you only get his arm silly

>>377422073
Also it's garbage. More damage when energy is full is the set bonus. Looks good tho.

>>377407190
I got to the biolabs and I am having so much trouble against the fucking walker things.

>>377422194
>>377422193
That's odd. I def got the full set. I had the bot blow the gens when the first one spawned then just cut his right arm off. Gave me the full black cerb set and the v2.

I didnt even finish the tutorial area and quit. Should I pick it up again?

>>377422262
They are fairly tricky, but it's better to find a way to deal with them right now since you'll get harder versions later

Targetting the tail with helps. I'm not sure which damage type they're most vulnerable, but elemental seems to be doing really good

>>377422262
I've died like 20+ times there. Most of my deaths against the smelter bot in the acid. Yeah, can't say it's an overly easy game.

ehhhh where the fuck is the next ''base'' Im at the start went as low as the tunnels brought the lights back on and shiet and died then revived on the first fucking base
i hate that i have to kill all enemies again
should i just outrun them

>>377422262
Your drone is a godsend.
Side dash the lunge.
The tail is great to attack after you do a fet hits and get the drone off once.
Leaves it very low HP after you take the tail off and can drone again.

>>377422508
There's only one

You can run just fine, they have a very tight leash

>>377422508
Theres only 1.

How have you not gotten 2 shortcuts before the basement? Unless you just ran to the dark as soon as you could

>>377422584
>theres only one
what the fuck that cant be right
what if i dont die but want to stop playing can i save at the place im at

>>377422463
>Most of my deaths against the smelter bot in the acid
The big yellow mother fucker you fight 2 of in recycling?

I had little trouble once I changed my loadout and gear. You know what to target right?

>>377422642
I have i go to the right and to the toxic shit not inside the building with a lot of those dudes
but there are still enemies
mostly flying fuckers

>>377422676
There werent bonfires in DeS either.

Shortcuts man, the levels are designed with shortcuts you open to get back. Area 2 is fucking crazy you might just hate it if area 1 is that bad.

>>377422676
The auto-save is pretty tight so yes, if you just close the game you will start from the same spot

The saving is super strict to the point that the devs even forgot to remove the quick save/load functionality, which isn't in the bindings menu

How varied is the game? It is a lot easier to come up with a bunch of drastic different environments and enemies in a fantasy setting so i am a bit worried that it might become stale.

Where is the Shield Drone upgrade in the Exhibition Hall?

>>377422710
Yeah, I killed it already. Took me a while to figure out the right strategy. Killing all the enemies surrounding it was a pain too. But I eventually beat it when it decided to co-operate with me.

>>377422841
>How varied is the game?
it's not

You are shill

>>377422889
under the stairs to the right when leaving ops, it's a very small area

MG Centurion da best

>>377422841
Its a near future industrial setting.

So far its outdoor area with sand and some big indoor rooms with a basement.
Then it was huge indoor area that was interconnected as fuck and surprisingly good with 1 sub area in it.
Third was sewer area then outdoor with green hourses and shit.

Ive heard about executive tower and such still so take it for what you will.

>>377422801
I mean i could do it but it feels like shit even with shortcuts to do the same shit again and again
can u even hold more than 3 health pots or whatever those are

>>377423161
>using straightswords

>>377422889
Protip since it took me a while to find it. In the lab across from when you first see the scientist dude, the one with all the elite hazmat guys, if you jump on the table near the overload point there's a grate you can crash through for a flamethrower drone.

>>377423240
I have 6small+3strong health things and 3 slow heals.

You can sprint past almost every enemy just like das1. First area is really small once you learn its layout

>>377423161
>centurion
>not pax v2 or legionnaire

Get a load of this guy.

>>377419327
>level design
Is this the new marketing meme?

I WAS BORN

>>377423110
>>377423245

Thanks folks.

>>377423442
IN A PRISON

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Great game you got there, Deck 13

>>377423621
Nioh is an exclusive though, it will have better rating by default

>>377423621
The fuck is that description for surge

>>377418439
BUT DEEP INSIDE YOU KNOW
THERE MUST BE MORE

I tried all dark souls and ps4 exclusives and can report that the surge is better than all of them
you cant even prove me wrong

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>>377410070
>The thing about Souls clones - they all fucking suck at level design.
>Bloodborne

Anyone else love that this game has jumping?
Shortcuts and climbin on shit.

VIDEO GAMES

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>>377423781
Yeah, sure. You better make your own video game review website. Gotta show those normies what is a good video game eh.

>>377423676
Whoah, that so racist, deck 13 bro

>>377424170
>>377423621
Guys Guys, if we combined LoTF and The Surge we got 68 + 72 =140, that mean we are much much better than every games in existence. Deck 13 rules

>get judge v2
>sweet ass motherfucking laser axe
>attack animations look like complete ass
>dude only uses it like an axe in one or two attacks
>cant even shoot the electric beams like the boss can
>went straight back to the chainsaw sword
why does everything but one handed and twin rigged weapons have such terrible animations and feel like utter shit

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We must boycott this game guys!

>>377424170
who cares what the scores are
this games feel better and play better

The medbay song makes sense now, and the game just got a whole lot creepier.

The Rogue Program makes noises that sound like the medbay song. It has been watching you all this time.

>>377425148
Yeah if you enjoy garbage man simulation

>>377424460
Wait, the v2 doesn't have any special attacks? Really? It's just higher damage or something then?

After getting the v2 twin-rigged I was really interested in getting the other v2 weapons too my next playthrough

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Hey guys check out my The surge cosplay

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>>377425057

>>377424460
>cant even shoot the electric beams like the boss can

Charge vertical ya big fag

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>>377425057
Cheeky

>>377425258
its like the souls games
but better

Ok Friends:
>Fighting enemies is worthless and a waste of time
>Run past literally everything
>Occasionally farm for levels when I need to
>Make it all the way to the Dr. in R&D.
>He's in some fuck huge room with enemies that come back after you kill them once
>Ran around teh whole thing and can't find anything

I have to kill them all don't I? I powered up the thing in the back.

>>377425678
How is it better than shit soul? i'm all ears, if it is so much better why it can't even reach 80?

>>377425686
The one with all the doors you can lock and unlock? I'm not sure if it's the right way but I locked al the doors and then one in the back under his viewing window opened up with a black bloody version of the zombots. You just have to get in there and up the lift and talk to the guy.

>>377425057
Deck 13 bros on reddit. guys. Do you guys think they are in this thread RIGHT NOW???

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>>377425686
I'm pretty sure the only things you NEED to kill in this game are bosses

Speaking of that area

>go through all those terminator dudes
>get to the doctor
>see him running towards something with a green interface
>OH NO YOU FUCKING DON'T
>slide attack
>stun him
>he reaches and presses it while I'm still doing my second attack
>can't access the thing
>listen to his dialogue
>kill him in hopes that he gives some access key
>nothing
Is it possible to stop him?

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>>377414551
>3:30
>MFW

>>377425820
>why it cant even reach 80
literally just play the game and stop relying on what others think

>>377426003
>not coming back later and killing him
you fucked up

>>377425851
>>377426003

Ok I'll keep trying.

>>377424170
Literally GOTY
>lowest score mean good
>made by literally who mean it's a master piece
>the fake can surpass the real mean it's literally GOAT

>>377426003
He's what triggers the whole security lockdown and calls all the security forces and I'm pretty sure that's essential to progressing so I doubt it.

>>377426154
>not letting him turn himself into a zombot
Honestly seems worse than being granted death.

>>377426154
What does killing him later change?

>>377426082
But i'm already pirated and play it, feel boring so far. And the enemies look like pretty much the same guy with exo jump suit.

Just killed black cerberus, I went for his arm but didn't get a successful cut and it's the only part of his gear I didn't get the schematic for. How does that work? Do you automatically get every schematic except for the piece you target and try to cut? Will I have to wait until NG+ to get the arms?

>>377426396
There's a second black Cerberus at the end of the executive forum you can kill for his shit. But he does not respawn so make it count.

>>377418309
He means that actually dodging attacks is better than having an i-frame panic button.

>>377426515
Ah, thanks. I might be a scrub and abuse the quicksave/quickload mechanic to make sure I get it.

>>377426659
Maybe because the hitbox in this game is just shit?

>>377426936
another "i didnt play the game" post lol

Medbay song was found btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmR1ehmmwkc&feature=youtu.be

So in the second area, near the female NPC you can give a staff weapon to, is a place where you see some soldiers walking around behind glass. How do you get in there?

are bloodborne fags this mad that pc gets to play a better souls game than them

>>377428215
Up top near the cargo cult? You pass through there later on. its on the way to boss three if I remember right. The second exosuit upgrade is in there so I don't think you can miss it.

>>377426154
>>377426003
Turns out that big one is a boss fight. At least it seems so, without having a big name and itnroduction.

Black Cerberus is bullshit. Those stupid PAX security robots can still one shot me with a stomp.

I guess I'm grinding new armor... This Lynx 2.0 isn't cutting it anymore.

>>377428556
I'm already in the 3rd area but I haven't found one exoskeleton upgrade yet?
What does it do?

>>377428960
Get yourself some blue rank gorgon and a hp upgrade or two. Also be sure to let the first robot shoot both generators and then cut the dudes right arm off as a finisher.

>>377429096
Sucks cause I gotta upgrade my Core, or lose access to my implants.

I guess I'm jsut going to kill a shitload of security personnel.

>>377429082
I ment first, sorry. Yeah you backtrack back into materials (area 2) for the third boss. Greenhouses does not have boss. It's gives you a white jumpsuit and four extra implant slots. The second one is after the black Cerberus gives you a red one and brings you to a final total of 16 slots.

>>377428960
You shouldn't be getting stomped on with Lynx gear, to be honest. And if you are getting one-shot, then that's specifically when you're exactly under the foot when he stops, or you have barely any Vital implants, not sure

He isn't really hard, backstabs do wonders

>>377429241
Ancillary cores my friend! Cut a doggo tail off and slot one in. White doggos give you a xl ancillary core and those are super important for late game builds when you gotta shove as many v5 health and injector implants in.

To bypass security and maintenance doors do you need to wear certain gear or is it based on game progression?

>>377429796
Game progression

>>377429796
Game progression. Specifically the second(and final) rig upgrade after black Cerberus.

>>377429373
Yeah, but having to fight multiple PAX machines is fucking dumb.

I have 2 Vital Implants.

It's just retarded that it's not just one, but as many as they can throw at you.

>>377430651
>multiple pax
Have the first shoot the two generators. No more paxes after that. Only gotta fight one if you play it right.

>>377430651
Yeah it's tedious, but PAX is really easy, I could also one-cycle him with my one-handed saw, though I had to time my drone shots perfectly else he'd survive with one hit left

There's also this >>377430867 which I personally didn't know
And he can only summon PAX when you let him, so if you keep him stunlocked as much as possible that can work, you can even get in some free damage during his shockwave cast

>>377423702
I WAS BORN
IN A PRISON

>>377431103
WITH NO HOPE
OF a good game

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Thread theme, apparently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmR1ehmmwkc

Where do you get the cool looking twin rigged weapon that you see in the beginning if you go the lynx route? Not the butterfly but the other one.

>>377431492
>industrial cable cutter never
It's just not in the game at all from what I've seen.

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>>377431420
oh shit, i was looking for this
thanks anon!

>been using the vibro cutter since the very beginning
>two areas later I finally find another one handed weapon
>one stat is the same, three stats are worse

Fuck this shit. Same with the basic fucking Lynx armor being easily one of the best in the game. There's no sense of character progression if I just use the same shit from start to finish. These guys are failing at RPG 101.

There's what appears to be a staff in a large crate in the middle of the exhibit hall. What do I do to get it? I don't have security clearance yet if that helps.

>>377431638
>elemental damage
>thrust damage
>slash damage
>crush damage

PAX must have taken you a while.

>>377431673
You nailed it, security clearance opens a door in there where you first fell into the area to a place with a overload circuit.

>>377431638
It's preference and different damage types in regards to weapons
That's also their "soulsesque" thing, where things are sidegrades, rather than direct upgrades

>>377431557
What the fuck really? How are you going to tease a weapon in screenshots and in the fucking beginning of the game and not actually have it?

>>377407190
How does the combat feel? When I saw footage of it before it launched a lot of the enemies took forever to get killed and didn't really react much to getting hit even when it was a huge ass weapon with really weight animation. Did they improve that at all or did the person playing just royally fuck up their character build? It's the only thing that really prevented me from getting it so far.

>>377431638
>There's no sense of character progression if I just use the same shit from start to finish

Just like choosing knight in DaS3.

>>377407190
How similar is it to Lords of the Fallen? I tried really hard to like it when it was free on PSN+ but I couldn't.

>>377431992
The enemies have a form of poise called Stability, same as the character. Hitting enemies on the armored parts of their body will take into account the defense and poise it provides, while hitting the unarmored part will stagger them and deal more damage

Characters without armor just have a general Stability amount, which depends on your Impact stats, which is how well you can stagger things

If that answers your question?

>>377432079
It's an improved LotF, but still fairly similar

>>377432291
Shame. Maybe I'll pick this up when it goes on sale then.

>no character creator

Nah fuck off

any good weapons/armor in NG+? debating whether or not to go through the game again

>>377432509
Why is this such a huge factor for so many people?
Is it absolutely required for people to self insert somehow and not just play from the character's perspective?

>>377432656
Nothing new. Only new upgrade tiers, extremely rare new enemies (who don't respawn) and bugs that lock you out of armor permanently

>>377432857
And by new enemies I mean dudes who weren't there before. Not "new"

>oh this looks like it might be interesting i wonder what it's li-
>souls ripoff

fucking dropped

I'm really trying to like this game but it's just so goddamn boring. There's no story and the audio logs sound like they're done for free by a bunch of amateurs. The enviroments are bland and just plain boring aswell. The combat is O.K. I guess but there's just no motivation to keep on playing since leveling also doesn't seem to do shit.

What makes you guys like this game? Just the combat?

>>377432738
No character creator is fine if you do something wtih it.

Warren has zero characterization

>>377431638
Same boat, I switch to 2h or TR to get profeciency up somethines but whenever I'm in trouble I switch back to that.

I need to get used to SR its executions are neat

>>377433351
combat, level design, getting new toys to play with. story is actually pretty clear compared to souls games

But yeah the realisitc setting is boring. As is playing as a literally who non-character you can't even customize.

And of course there's no multiplayer of any kind, that's probably the biggest reason this game is not worth 60 burgers

>>377432738
/v/ just wants to play as a girl. This is a transexual board.

>>377433742
They open the game with some semi-emotional shit about a cripple guy who is able to walk again through some horrible operation.

They do litteraly nothing with this emotion. Dude, is just like HEY COOL I CAN WALK LOL OKAY COOL I GUESS, LETS GET TO THE FACTORY.

Then when you interact with the that robot woman she's just like. YEAH JUST GO TO THE FACTORY I GUESS

And when you keep asking her she's just like
EHRRR ARE YOU AT THE FACTORY YET?

Seriously, what the fuck?

>>377434212
the overall storyline makes sense, you don't know shit at the beginning but you slowly learn everything as you progress. nothing great and you've seen the same story 10 times but it makes perfect sense

and yeah, the cripple thing and edgy cutscenes are why tier

>>377434212
The exoskeleton turns him into a supersoldier, you wanted him to cry of happiness that he can walk again? The guy is trying to survive. Him being a cripple is the reason he went to CREO and the reason he ended up in the scrapyard.

>>377434990
Yeah, I guess your right. Fuck any story what so ever right LOL WHO NEEDS MOTIVATION LOL JUST GO FIGHT ROBOTS YOU'RE NOW A SUPER SOLDUR, GO GO GO LOL ayyyyyy when's the newest COD coming out? It's gonne be LIT yo

Is it better than Lords of the Fallen? I hated how slow that game was.

>>377435276
Combat is the best part of this game.

>>377408193
Better than shitsouls. You can literally duck under and jump over attacks

>>377435276
You can play a pretty Bloodborne style character if you pick fast weapons.
I'm currently using the 2nd boss weapon which are basically 2 claws with a neat flamethrower combo.

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>>377407190
interested in it but not for 80+ canuck bucks

its a souls-like but no real advertising so id say it qualifys as a sleeper hit if its actually good(like dead space was)

ill pick it up when its cheap tho

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>>377435638
You're missing out

>>377435118
So you wanted a love story? or a rival boss enemy that has the same moveset as player and his battles have a lot of anime screaming and emotional dialog about how they were cripples who had trouble going up stairs and now are destroying giant robots?

The least they could do, would be add some characters and bosses with quirky personalities, but these guys are Germans and Germans aren't good at this. In the fact, the game is pretty German, it's a huge industrial facility with guys cosplaying as bulldozers and forklifts, literally the German wetdream.

Should I give Jo her weapon back?

>>377436508
Do it. It's terrible anyway.

>>377422194
>>377422193
I just cut off his right arm and got the schematics for the full set. Is there some special condition for it?

>>377436665
people are saying you can get the PAX to blow up some generator, maybe that's the condition

>>377436623
I'm not interested in using it at all, but if I do does she kill Hobbs?

>>377436792
Isn't he already dead when you picked it up? I found it next to his body. I never remember getting the option to give it back honestly.

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>>377435830
>playing on PC

lol
ya everyone who has a PC has top of the line graphics card to play every game......comeon

im not playing a pc game at subpar graphics if i can even run it. cost of a good card is the same as a console nowadays

ill get the ps4 game in a year or less when its 30$

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WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL THE BOSSES???? I beat the game and didn't believe it.