>this is what weebs ACTUALLY believe

>>377402782
Why would weebs believe that? Weeb implies that they play Japanese games, and Japanese games are superior to western games in terms of gameplay and mechanics.

No western game has ever been looked at for its mechanics. Meanwhile whole genres(DmC,Bayo style fighters, srpgs like Disgaea, TO) are played for their mechanics alone.
There's a reason why the only games remarkable in the west, are either cinematic experiences or "immersive" games with empty copy pasted tasks plastered all over them.

>>377402901
>muh waifus
typical weeb

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>>377402782
you have to draw a line somewhere

>>377402901
/thread

>>377402782
Who are you quoting?

>>377403012
That post didn't mention anything about character design. I don't think you read it.

>>377403153
it says /v/ right on the image you blind asshole

>>377403012
Speak English you fucking weaboo

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>>377402901
>disgaea
>gameplay

>>377402901
Oh yeah, no one plays RTS games, FPS games, trading card games, hack & slay and racing sims for the mechanics.

>>377402901
>No western game has ever been looked at for its mechanics
????????

>>377403554
Besides racing sims and RTS, this is true.

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>>377402782
It's just that character design, especially when it comes to female characters, is severely lacking in the West.
It's almost like they forgot what "appealing" means. Maybe they are also trying too hard to be original and/or progressive, without trying to make it good first.

>>377402782
>"hey i wonder what i can do to discredit this entire general group of people i hate"
>"hey i know"
>"let's take this one retarded out of context quote and assume everyone holds the same belief"
i dont even play weeb games
you're retarded

>>377402782
Nobody actually believes that. Character design is just more fun to talk/shitpost about is all.

>>377403616
not him, but me and everyone that i still talk to and play video games with play FPS games for the mechanics

>>377402782
How do I upvote this?

>>377403629
hey man maybe one day you'll outgrow puberty and you won't need to be aroused constantly in every activity you partake in

>>377403303
But nobody said that.

>>377403554
>no one plays RTS games
This is true. No one plays RTS games anymore.
>FPS games
Because FPS games are known for their deep and well crafted mechanics right?
>trading card games
Not a video game
>hack & slay
Are you talking Diablo and PoE? Are you seriously mentioning one-click games when the OP is about gameplay?
>racing sims
?????? Gameplay mechanics anyone?

>>377403658
if that were true at all how come every weeb game thread is just waifu posting

>>377402782
Clearly not what Trails of Cold Steel fans think

>>377402782
>-/v/ 2017
no /a/ believes this, not /v/. /a/ is the one responsible for shitting up threads with fap bait and waifu shit.

>>377402782
>Post a quote that applies to the west
>Call it one for the weebs

Cute.

>>377403743
It doesn't have to be necessarily arousing.
It can be pretty, cute and in many other ways aesthetic.

>>377403763
it says it right there in the image. are you saying that text doesn't exist or that it was made by a non human? i think your trying too hard to fit in with your /jp/ meme

>>377402782
>>377402901
We need to divide "Weeb" (which is mostly VN waifutrash with no gameplay) from "Japanese" (which is just a game made in Japan). BoTW is a Japanese game but isn't a weeb game and is in fact very heavily western-inspired.

>>377403658
>identifying this strongly with /v/

>>>urafag2geocites.com.au

>>377403905
>its not weeb if I like it!
Ah, /v/. You never learn.

>>377402782
99% of games have the same gameplay as dozens of other games. Gameplay is nothing special.

>>377403812
Whats a "weeb game"? Fucking shallow garbage for normalfags and ex-gaia wankers like Neptunia?

>>377402782
>weebs
meaningless word

>>377403085
agree, but only if the authors intentionally makes the character look like shit to cater to potential customers instead of the story/universe of the game.

>>377403743
It's not even just that. Compare, say, Tyrian and Jamestown versus Einhander or Astebreed. Style is important, and not only is the West lacking but it's not even a recent phenomenon.

>>377403961
Weak bait. I like Persona 5 but that's also weeb waifushit.

>>377403847
>every jap game thread is waifu worship
>every west game thread is weebs complaining the waifus aren't hot enough
>n-no! this is "the west"(defined as every place outside of japan)!!

>>377403735
"You" and "everyone that you talk to" are literally, "no one"

>>377404021
Please define weeaboo. You and everyone else in this thread, and probably the entirety of /v/ has run its meaning to the ground.

>>377404010
>i literally play games for the graphics

>>377402782
>"Character design is more important than gameplay" - tumblr 2017
Give them a game with a black protagonist instant GOTY for them, doesn't matter it doesn't even boot up.

>>377403991
i dunno man if you weren't being intentionally ignorant you could take one look at the catalogue and get your answer

>>377404081
He can't, and its best we all just filter it at this point.

>>377404128
ah yea the imaginary tumblr boogeyman, the /pol/ loving anime fans favorite scapegoat. make nippon great again!

>>377403905
Zelda is japanese, everything japanese is weeb. Get over it you pathetic weeaboo.

>>377404152
How can games be weeb if weeaboos refer to people and not games?

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I'll admit it's pretty silly how everyone was calling that one Vampire game the game of the year because one of the characters was a loli.
At the end of the day it just comes down to people loving to put graphics and how a game looks before everything else.

>>377404236
ah yea the imaginary /pol/ boogeyman, the tumblr loving anime fans favorite scapegoat. make america diverse again!

>>377403905
BotW is Japanese by your definition and has gameplay, but let us not pretend it doesn't have a lot of waifutrash and stuff that is catering to fetishists (especially 'that one' Link outfit) for sales.

>>377403616
Who the fuck even plays racing sims and Starcraft is a Korean national sport, not a game genre

>>377403786
FPS games do have fairly in depth mechanics depending on the game. CoD is just the Final Fantasy of FPS games.

>>377402901
>Nier Tomato
>Gameplay
pick one

>>377403905
>very heavily western-inspired
>link is not black
>zelda isnt a strong womyn
>ganon isn't a white oppressive tyrant
Really makes you think.

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>>377403901
What /jp/ meme?Actually wait.

"I suck nigger cocks for a living" - You
Oh, wow. That's pretty sad. How did that happen?

>>377404041
So? The East has characters and gameplay. The West has just some characters and otherwise nothing.

>>377404091
Yes, that's why I used games in a genre notorious for its bad graphics as an example.

Idiot.

What's the point of this thread?

>>377403085
You implying Cisquisition had good gameplay to balance out the grease goblin?

>>377404021
Hey faggot, still waiting for your answer, or are you too busy looking up what weeaboo means on KYM?

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>>377402782
Nice autofrag, pathetic westacuck.

Who's the faggot who REFUSE to even try a game because of character design? Certainly not weebs.
YOU refuse to play games based on any character design, not anyone else.
Admit it.

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>>377404527
I assume to post lewd designs

>east
>gameplay

you have jrpgs that have menu selection as game play and character action games where you press a button to watch the game play itself with flashy attacks.
Somehow the weeb considers this gameplay.

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>>377402782
tbqh this is true for me. If a game has bad gameplay but great characters, I can force myself through it for the story. If it has unbearable characters but good gameplay, I'll just drop it and play another game with better story and similar but better gameplay. There is nothing new under the sun, very very few games have truly unique gameplay now. So it's usually stupid to play a game for its "gameplay" if the story is trash when you can just play a better game overall instead.

>>377404620
Oh the irony

The exact opposite is true though. I mean look at kingdom hearts. People only play that for the mechanics.

>>377404620
>west
>gameplay

you have walking simulators that have menu selections for cutscenes and more walking simulators where you press a button to watch the game play itself. Somehow, westcucks consider this gameplay.

I can do it, too.

>>377404583
>Who's the faggot who REFUSE to even try a game because of character design? Certainly not weebs.

But that is literally describing weebs

>>377404620
Really tells you the quality of western gameplay when choosing options in a menu is much more engaging than anything the west has done is the last 5 years.

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>>377404243
>it's not weeb if I like it
Everytimes

Name a single(one) video game with good gameplay

>>377404495
>shmups
>notorious for bad graphics

so you've never actually played a shmup outside of toushit?

>>377404692
>no you
2007 called, they want their canned arguments back.

>>377404738
Tetris and Minesweeper
>inb4 muh rng

>>377404708
Read it again you retarded potato.

>>377402782
Go play ass effect then. I heard it has good combat

>>377404692
>b-but you!!
I play Deus Ex and Persona
You only play Deus Ex and refusing to play Persona because it triggers you.

Easy to see who like videogames the most here.

>>377403786
>FPS games
Because FPS games are known for their deep and well crafted mechanics right?

Yes? You'd never get depth on the level of system shock or quake from a Japanese dev.

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>>377404620
>meanwhile in the west

>>377404793
>"IT'S OKAY IF I LIKE IT!!"

HAHA

>>377404467
>so new you don't even know the origin of the memes you spout

>>377404883
Read it again you retarded potato.

>>377403629
Anime isn't appealing to a lot of westerners

>>377404678
except that's just being intentionally ignorant of gaming as a whole. japan on the other hand has literally nothing else

>>377404771
>minesweeper
The controls are shit

>>377404801
contrary to popular belief, surrounding auts with more auts does not make them feel at home

>>377404816
I don't play persona because it's fucking boring and i don't care about dating sims

>>377404960
>except that's just being intentionally ignorant of gaming as a whole
The iron knee.

>>377404738
alttp

>>377404482
it's too early to be making post this dumb.

>>377402782
I'ma weeb. I can say that character design is give or take if the rest of the game is solid. Now character development on the other hand...

>>377405020
Case in point.

>>377404330
>and stuff that is catering to fetishists (especially 'that one' Link outfit) for sales.
You didn't play the game, because that whole section is played as a joke and makes fun of crossdressers.

>>377405148
Not the point. People still saw it as fetish porn, especially the trapfags.

I really don't care about character design as long as the game is fun.

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There's no denying that attractive female and male character design is a plus that absolutely can't detract from the a game in any ways.

If you seriously argue otherwise you're an SJW or otherwise a fat ugly fuck who don't want good looking peoples in his videogame.
And drawing conclusions from one character design for a videogame developed by hundred peoples is a proof of ignorance.

>>377404482
The west has level design.

>>377405092
What, that I expect more out of a game than fighting via a menu? Or do I really need to enjoy 80 hours of poorly written dialogue to say I like games? Just because you have no standards and will eat up any shit thrown at you doesn't mean i like don't like games

>>377403847
>Nier
>you play it for the story and ass not the gameplay
>Persona 5
>is just a bad VN

>>377405262
>t I expect more out of a game than fighting via a menu?
How to spot an underage.
And really, you seems to think only weeb games have menu based combat, which is even sadder.

>>377405285
>ME:A
>You play it for the story and ass not the gameplay
>Is also just a bad VN

>retards still think weeb can be applied to games
We should have stopped years ago.

>>377405319
Are you fucking stupid? You brought up persona, and guess what, it fucking applies to persona

>>377404482
>The East has characters and gameplay.
see>>377405285

>>377405378
Thanks underage. You'll learn one day.

>>377405319
that's how you fight in SMT and Persona, how is he underage for calling that out?

>>377405367
i like how weebs bring up andromeda all the time like anyone actually plays it here. Like surely they must like this terrible game if they don't like my weebshit!

>>377405379
>tactical fighting and Platinum action
>both 10/10 gameplay
You're not disproving his point.

>>377404816
>I play Deus Ex and Persona
Congrats on your boring taste then. Everyone on /v/ has played those games and if they haven't they don't belong here.

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10/10 designs, prove me wrong

>>377405379
>my uninformed opinions totally count guise!!!
>please pay attention to me!

>>377404054
i guess me and everyone that plays games like quake champions are literally no one

>>377405414
Alright man you enjoy those menu options, maybe all that dialogue will help you follow your own conversations

>>377405474
Only underages think fighting with menus is inherently bad.

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>>377405476
what do you even like then?

>>377405527
>quake champions
Good example of the western games industry going down the shitter

>>377405148
>layed as a joke and makes fun of crossdressers
and the trapfags really got that right? considering all the link trap threads that appeared since the game came out, i wouldn't say so

>>377405527
You got that right. Everyone forgot about quake champions almost as soon as the E3 reveal trailer stopped playing

>>377405486
Exactly. That's why him not playing Persona means he doesn't belong here. Especially his reason for doing so.

>>377405480
>tactical fighting
you mean watered down SMT combat
>Platinum action
N:A's combat is dull

>>377405251
Souls and 3D Mario have better level design than any western game.

>>377405616
>first day of closed beta
>servers are so full that there's literally a line of over 4000 people waiting to get in
and that was just with the first round of keys they gave out
I'm afraid you're retarded

>>377405652
>N:A's combat is dull
And press x to not die isn't?

>>377405659
3d mario has never had standout level design for a 3d platformer, it's either literal collectathon or mediocre linear design with no challenge

>>377405480
P5 is just turn based edgy High school drama shit and Nier is a boring game with an oversimplistic combat system that's simply not engaging, dull enemy design and bullet hell segments that get stale after an hour or so. Meanwhile the story is supposed to be good but it's just tumblr-tier faggotry as usual.

>>377405561
I like a lot of games, some of my favorites include sys shock, descent. dawn of war, sacrifice, mdk, giants citizen kabuto, tribes 2, jagged alliance 2, and savage 2. More recent games i have enjoyed are disc jam, rising storm 2, nba playgrounds, grim dawn, and miasmata. is that enough for you to pinpoint one game and say it sucks?

can neo-/v/ write even a single post without using buzzwords as an arguing point

>>377405476
What noteworthy western game has been released the past 5 months you braindead motherfucker? There's For Honor, Horizon Zero Dawn, Andromeda and Yooka Laylee, one has the worst netcode I had the displeasure to use, the second is a Ubisoft-tier open world meme, the third one is fucking Andromeda and look how good the fourth one turned out to be.

>>377405723
>And press x to not die isn't?
What the hell are you talking about? Of course that would be bad, when did I say I approved of that?

JRPGS would be better if they would just add a positioning element. Then maybe there would be actual strategy. FFT is no XCOM but at least it has gameplay.

>>377402782
Worked for OverFortress

character design includes personality, background and looks
yes it is very important
it isnt more important than gameplay because it is part of the gameplay

>>377405901
neptunia has a positioning element
does that make it good
you decide

>>377405865
player unknowns battlegrounds :^]

>>377405865
Titan Fall is pretty good.

>>377405367
No one praises ME:A
Persona is the week's GOTY, LOL

>>377405810
Nice copy paste list kiddo.

>>377405928
>character design is part of gameplay
This is what weebs actually believe

>>377405975
It is, too bad EA wants to kill it to buy the dev team. Also not released the past 5 months.

>>377405659
The Witness is a masterpiece of level design. There has never been a Japanese game with such unified beauty in its art, gameplay, and setting. Mario is a fucking kids game where you do easy challenges to collect shit. What is even so impressive about it's level design outside of a few cutesy gimmicks in some levels?

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>>377402782
And environmental design is more important than that.

It's simple. Video games are more than just games. They're virtual worlds for you to explore and be immersed in. The immersion is shit if the environmental design is bland, character and enemy designs uninspired, visual effects and audio design subpar, etc.

It's also shit if the controls, mechanics, AI design, other game rules etc. are lousy because those are your tools for getting immersed. But who cares if those are good when the thing itself you're being immersed in is shit?

>>377405865
Hollow Knight

But it ultimately doesn't matter because you're just gonna file it under some umbrella term anyway and be on your way.

>>377406008
oh ok sorry for giving you a legitimate answer

>>377402782
Well, weeb games don't have gameplay. The most you'll get is: "Navigate 3 menus to hit the enemy and make big numbers appear". The only thing they have to really shitpost about is character design, which gets super wacky in weebshit because differentiating characters is hard when they all have the same face

>>377405739
3D Mario has great use of vertical level design and compliments the movement options in each game well.

>>377405810
>DoW
My man

I was waiting for the easy pickings shit but you actually got a decent list going on there -except- the nba. Noticing a far less story focused trend though which just raises a few questions of why bother with this "but muh weeb story is better than ur western story" thing.

>>377405970
I don't think that would be the best example of a western game.

>>377406067
Noteworthy as in a big release with publicity. Hollow Knight is pretty good.

>>377404620
>character action games where you press a button to watch the game play itself with flashy attacks
Your bait made me mad. Kys

>>377406106
Vertical level design? In a platformer?! That's basic shit. No wonder you are so impressed by it, if all you play are JRPG's and fucking mario.

>>377405865
Injustice 2 has had one of the smoothest launches in fighting game history outside of KI. Most bullshit like Grodd loops was already patched Day 1

>>377406102
>Go to tower
>Sync tower
>Go to map mark
>Do boring shit
>Go the next one
>Repeat for the rest of the game with no variation
>Game is boring to look at
Truly a riveting experience beginning to end.

>>377406131
don't diss nba jam

>>377406257
maybe stop playing zelda and play Gothic, the true model of open world games

>>377406283
what it got, besides a slammin sountrack, that hasn't been accomplished by sports games since the 90s

>>377406338
Any new game I haven't played in the last 20 years? Because everytime I get recommended something I already played it years ago.

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>>377406187
Get better taste my man. Western 3D platformers are garbage to fucking Mario, the simplest of all 3D platformers. Crash is a straight line for fucks sake.

>>377406342
you have HIGH OCTANE jams, a plethora of defensive options such as steals, blocks, pushes, swats, between the legs dribble, and dodging. skill based 3 pointers that require pinpoint accuracy to make, positioning focused gameplay adding a strict layer of strategy to an already fast paced game. there is no way anyone could play and still hate on nba jam or the nba jam inspired playgrounds

>>377406473
if you're looking for new things why are you playing jap games

>>377406257
Don't ever reply to my posts again, weeb filth.
Take a shower or kill yourself

>>377406473
Elex :^)

>>377406672
Don't ever breath my air you filthy westackuck.
Take a shower and kill yourself.

>>377406579
Platformers are for pre-teens and children.

>>377406865
I dunno man, sometimes I just wanna sit down and take a break from all the violent spasmy shit

不細工なキャラよりは@のほうがましだな

>>377406865
>no argument
wew lad

>>377406996
you speakin greek? this is an english image board

>>377407010
His argument is that platformers are for preteens and children, you however provided none

>>377404908
Why do you suck nigger cocks?

>>377407116
Because whiteys don't have.

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>>377407092
That wasn't a argument but a ad hominem. Just because you play shit and can't defend your garbage level design doesn't mean you need to be salty about it

>>377407291
is english not your first language?

>>377407340
Apparently its not yours because that had nothing to do with what I was talking and he needed to deflect.

>>377403786
>Because FPS games are known for their deep and well crafted mechanics right?
They used to until nuBlizz literally ruined them with the release of Overshit.

>>377404839
SS is a fucking rp""""g"""" with terrible mechanics like all of the games of this type, and FPS will never compare to something like a fighting game.

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I like good character design.

>>377403786
what the fuck is a gameplay mechanic to you then? fps and racing sims require a lot of precise inputs and arpgs require a lot of game knowledge and strategy. If neither of those are deep then what is?

>>377408565
>generic big breast whore with back problems
>good character design

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>>377402782
Just a reminder that western devs don't know how to make a game.

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>>377408717

This is why we need the split

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>>377402782
Western devs can't into making games.

>>377402782
I'm sorry, but isn't this best applied to western development? Not maybe character design per se, but in recent years a lot of big western studios put effort into anything but fucking gameplay. I mean, take God of War, it's been a year and we know butfucking nothing about the gameplay, all they talk about is muh plot.

>>377402782
It's not, mostly because videogames tend to have absolute garbage character design.
And plot, for that matter.

>>377406067
Like you faggots don't do the same with weeb games

>>377409043
>The only type of games that exist ever are RPG'S, nothing else
For fuck's sake.

>>377405810
Those games aren't recent. No wonder you do nothing but shitpost about weeb games every fucking day.

>>377402782
That's because you can't fap over gameplay.

>>377403786
I still play RTS games. RTS games are still being made. RTS is the best genre.

>>377403905
>>377404243
>>377403961
None of you have any idea what the term 'weeaboo' actually mean.

>Weeaboo, also seen misspelled as Weaboo, is a synonym for "Wapanese", which in turn means "wannabe Japanese" and/or "white Japanese" (in line with the more mainstream term "wigger[1]"). It stems from an old wordfilter to that effect in /b/. The word itself comes from an issue of the (web-) comic The Perry Bible Fellowship, wherein it means something else (and more to the point, nothing in particular), but a single panel from the strip in question[2] is still considered synonymous with the meaning it has on 4chan.

>"Wapanese" itself is a derogatory term for an American or European (usually white) who is obsessed with Japan to the point of wishing to be Japanese. Wapanese typically make statements about the superiority of Japanese culture to their own, that Japanese women are more attractive than anyone else, etc., and thus deserve scorn due to how annoying and ignorantly derisive cultural cringe suck up these tirades are. The term is often used on 4chan when a moderator deletes fanart made by Americans or of American characters.

>>377408808
Did you know they originally wanted to make his dick so big that it drags on the floor?

>>377403905
Anything japanese is weeb and anything anime waifu related is ironic weeb. Learn the difference.

Anyone who uses the term weeb in any capacity is a thoughtless retard who deserves to be ignored.

It's not, but in the current environment where so much vidya is being made, having shitty character designs does nothing to endear players.
Games are more than just hand eye coordination tests. They are also audio/visual stimulants.

>>377412414
Shut up weeb.

>>377412486
Not really, vidya don't need character designs to be considered great.

Character design is only an important factor in manga/comics.

>>377412725
Character design, sound design, art design, level design, world design, story design, mechanic design, all of these combine to make the greatest of games. A perfect example is TF2. You are playing a game, but you are also looking at a game and listening to a game. It depends mostly on the genre. For example an atmospheric game may have all the elements nailed down for a truly great experience - mechanics, aesthetic, sound - but if it falls short on characters then you have a big fat problem on your hands.

>>377412414
Fuck off, weeb.

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>>377402782
Character design is the salt and pepper of video games.

>>377405901
We already have that genre it's called SRPG

>>377402901
Weebfags everyone

>>377412414
A fucking weeb

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>>377402782
Correct

>>377406579
Pacman World 2 and Rayman 2 assfuck 3D Mario just like Rayman, Gex, and DKC2 assfuuck 2D Mario